Thank you for your kind words, I know the episode was a tad bit controversial but I rather act honestly in the world and help people if the knowledge helped me.
Congrats on blowing up! I don't agree with Jordan Peterson on a lot of things, but I saw him on Dave Rubin once, back when I still watched him. He went through his 12 points, and some of them were worth listening to. Of course, most of them were not, some were flat-out wrong, and one was even backwards. Like you said, you have to hear all of it to find the parts that are worth it. I've always thought it's weird that part of the bound path in the game is that to leave Cerulean you have to barge into someone's house while there's still an ongoing investigation into a burglary there. You'd think the last thing they need is another stranger wandering through their property. I still disagree with the way you find meaning in things a lot of the time. Unlike with Jordan Peterson, you're not taking what you want from what's there, you're often assigning meaning that wasn't there in the first place. That's not to say it's not there at all, but it's there because you put it there. To use the old cliché, the meaning was inside you all along. Which is fine, but you don't recognize that. You put something there and think you've discovered it. I know I have little ground to stand on after I was inappropriate with you last month. You were right about that, which means you're not likely to listen to me anymore, and you weren't listening much before that. But if there's one thing I can still impart to you, it's that these insights you find when you interact with Pokémon aren't coming from the game. They're coming from you.
Well of course they are coming from me haha 😂, I of course agree with that. Here is another way to look at it, the word comedy literally means take something apart and put it back together again in a different way. That’s what I’ve been doing, yes the meaning wasn’t there initially but how I put it back together, the act itself, generated meaning, I built the meaning. We’re saying the same thing. The meaning however was like new software code in my brain that actually changed me. I operate on the philosophy of how you do one thing is how you do everything, it’s not perfect but it’s good enough. Whatever “meaning” I introspected about and built in the game I put it in my life and it helped me. Pokelosophy, and this game was really about how to change one’s perception of the world, it did work for me.
Two things. I do listen to you but our definitions of listen might be ever so slightly different. If you associate “listen” to “do what I say” then that’s an order. I listen and value your opinion but that doesn’t necessarily always influence my actions. My definition of listening is ensure the person is felt heard, but that doesn’t mean I have to act on their words. I encourage you to think about that in your life because I used to say “no one listens to me” but then I realized, “I don’t even listen to myself”. That’s when I realized I had to embrace myself. So please don’t feel like you’re not “heard”. You certainly are Jervis. Second, purely for intellectual curiosity, what is one of those JP rules you disagree with and which one do you think is backwards. I just want to hear where you’re coming from, perhaps I am wrong so maybe it’s important I hear your perspective because unlike others, you may have done the work which is what matters
@@pokelosophy "Set your house in perfect order before you criticize the world" is not practical. Similar to your own rule about doing everything the way you do everything else, you have to work on both at the same time. If you wait to try to improve the world until you have your own affairs in order, you'll never do it. (Which may be the point.) "Pet a cat when you encounter one in the street" is just stupid. So is "Do not bother children when they are skateboarding" but for different reasons. If you encounter a cat in the street, it isn't going to let you touch it, and who would even address skateboarding children unless they already know them? And if they do, they might have plenty of good reasons to "bother" them. Most of these rules read as though they're designed to be profound, or at least sound profound, but when you think about them for any amount of time you realize they're either already common sense, or just not useful. I'd argue about more of them, but I've already been typing for 10 minutes. "Stand up straight with your shoulders back" is fine on the surface, but his reasoning behind it is exactly backwards. He talks about lobsters (and even states that we're just different lobsters) and says that if a lobster wins a fight it'll stretch out, and if a lobster loses a fight, it'll curl up. That if you project protectiveness, you look weak and vulnerable and attractive to predators, while if you project vulnerability predators will suspect a trap and avoid you. Well not only is that backwards in nature, but he concludes from it that if you stand as though you already have confidence it'll somehow give you confidence. You know, the same way spending like you already have money will earn you more money. You can't posture your way into more confidence; the posture comes from the confidence in the first place. He also has a rule about telling the truth, or at least not lying, which this rule violates if you don't already feel the confidence you're projecting.
@@JervisGermane I agree with you in that a lot of his thoughts are common sense but even common sense is not that common. George Carlin has a funny bit about this lol but once again, I'll gently remind you, I think you're taking the rules too literally, they are merely metaphors for action. "Set your house in perfect order before you criticize the world" I would leave it as "set your house in order", this is a good one in my opinion, it's actually rooted in the law of Entropy from physics and chemistry. Your'e right in that it's hard to balance with everything going on but that's what gives you energy to in the world. I wrote an essay about entropy here: medium.com/fiftytwo250/entropy-3884c1c49bab . For me this is the one rule that everyone should actually take to heart, this one actually saved me and made me a stronger person. It teaches you how to sort the world again and makes you more resilient. Huberman also has a soundbite about doing hard things as a way to mitigate cognitive decline and making you resilient, cleaning is awful LOL... I hate it but I have to do it. "Petting a cat" is a metaphor to find peace in chaos. It's not about literally finding a cat haha... For me, my "petting of the cat" is just sitting by the river or lake and enjoying the simplicity and beauty of life. Pretty simple, but to your point, common sense. "Stand with your shoulders back" / "If you stand as though you already have confidence it'll somehow give you confidence" this has actually been studied scientifically, it's the Superman pose. If you stand as superman for 2-3 minutes, it increases your testosterone and you become more confident, it's weird haha. Same idea if you smile with a pencil in your mouth, you become happier. The body has more neural pathways than the brain so what he is hinting at here, as well as a lot of literature in Hinduism like Yoga, is that the body and mind are DEEPLY connected. Fake it till you make it is a thing, I really hate to admit but it works! To me this should really just say "have good posture to maintain your health to act positively in the world". I also have a background in ecology and genetics, I loved the Lobster analogy (remember, analogy not literal) because of what I know about these systems BUT it's a TERRIBLE analogy for the mainstream haha... this is where he needs to realize his examples fall short. Same thing with the skateboarding, I get the point he i trying to make but terrible example lol, it should be "let the kid play with lego" or something haha
Jordan Peterson? Really? Please choose better people to try and learn lessons from. The guy legitimately believes in hypergamy. Not a role model by a long shot
You obviously haven’t watched the full video if you said that. I was very specific about the context of his information and how it helped me, If you want to learn more about it, we can always do a video call so you can directly tell me how I should pick other people for my videos to my face. It’s easy to give feedback over text, try it in person or video.
The guy isn't a good person. I know there is a fallacy of not believing anything a person says because of one thing they believe but I don't listen to that man, period. Regardless of any good ideas he has he also believes in some of the most toxic ideas. He's a misogynist. I'll continue to watch your videos. And no, I don't feel like talking in person. But thank you for the option.
The only thing I will add is that some of his ideas from Maps of Meaning saved me from destroying myself. I’ll give credit where credit is due. The only reason why I offered a video chat is that if one can’t say their opinion in their own voice to the person, then it has little value. Something we should all, including myself, be mindful of as we take part on the internet. I think about this all the time as a standup comedian.
@@pokelosophy Getting away from religion did the same for me. Peterson, is not as smart or important as he thinks he is. I've heard the man speak enough to know I don't want to read any of his books.
I WENT VIRAL! Thank you Pokélosophy for playing a role in my story! You all rock :) Feel free to follow me on Instagram @youarenot_bhavin
This series remains as cool as ever! Hope to get more of it soon
Thank you for your kind words, I know the episode was a tad bit controversial but I rather act honestly in the world and help people if the knowledge helped me.
Congrats on blowing up!
I don't agree with Jordan Peterson on a lot of things, but I saw him on Dave Rubin once, back when I still watched him. He went through his 12 points, and some of them were worth listening to. Of course, most of them were not, some were flat-out wrong, and one was even backwards. Like you said, you have to hear all of it to find the parts that are worth it.
I've always thought it's weird that part of the bound path in the game is that to leave Cerulean you have to barge into someone's house while there's still an ongoing investigation into a burglary there. You'd think the last thing they need is another stranger wandering through their property.
I still disagree with the way you find meaning in things a lot of the time. Unlike with Jordan Peterson, you're not taking what you want from what's there, you're often assigning meaning that wasn't there in the first place. That's not to say it's not there at all, but it's there because you put it there. To use the old cliché, the meaning was inside you all along. Which is fine, but you don't recognize that. You put something there and think you've discovered it. I know I have little ground to stand on after I was inappropriate with you last month. You were right about that, which means you're not likely to listen to me anymore, and you weren't listening much before that. But if there's one thing I can still impart to you, it's that these insights you find when you interact with Pokémon aren't coming from the game. They're coming from you.
Well of course they are coming from me haha 😂, I of course agree with that. Here is another way to look at it, the word comedy literally means take something apart and put it back together again in a different way. That’s what I’ve been doing, yes the meaning wasn’t there initially but how I put it back together, the act itself, generated meaning, I built the meaning. We’re saying the same thing. The meaning however was like new software code in my brain that actually changed me.
I operate on the philosophy of how you do one thing is how you do everything, it’s not perfect but it’s good enough. Whatever “meaning” I introspected about and built in the game I put it in my life and it helped me. Pokelosophy, and this game was really about how to change one’s perception of the world, it did work for me.
@@pokelosophy That does make me feel better.
Two things. I do listen to you but our definitions of listen might be ever so slightly different. If you associate “listen” to “do what I say” then that’s an order. I listen and value your opinion but that doesn’t necessarily always influence my actions. My definition of listening is ensure the person is felt heard, but that doesn’t mean I have to act on their words. I encourage you to think about that in your life because I used to say “no one listens to me” but then I realized, “I don’t even listen to myself”. That’s when I realized I had to embrace myself. So please don’t feel like you’re not “heard”. You certainly are Jervis.
Second, purely for intellectual curiosity, what is one of those JP rules you disagree with and which one do you think is backwards. I just want to hear where you’re coming from, perhaps I am wrong so maybe it’s important I hear your perspective because unlike others, you may have done the work which is what matters
@@pokelosophy "Set your house in perfect order before you criticize the world" is not practical. Similar to your own rule about doing everything the way you do everything else, you have to work on both at the same time. If you wait to try to improve the world until you have your own affairs in order, you'll never do it. (Which may be the point.) "Pet a cat when you encounter one in the street" is just stupid. So is "Do not bother children when they are skateboarding" but for different reasons. If you encounter a cat in the street, it isn't going to let you touch it, and who would even address skateboarding children unless they already know them? And if they do, they might have plenty of good reasons to "bother" them. Most of these rules read as though they're designed to be profound, or at least sound profound, but when you think about them for any amount of time you realize they're either already common sense, or just not useful. I'd argue about more of them, but I've already been typing for 10 minutes.
"Stand up straight with your shoulders back" is fine on the surface, but his reasoning behind it is exactly backwards. He talks about lobsters (and even states that we're just different lobsters) and says that if a lobster wins a fight it'll stretch out, and if a lobster loses a fight, it'll curl up. That if you project protectiveness, you look weak and vulnerable and attractive to predators, while if you project vulnerability predators will suspect a trap and avoid you. Well not only is that backwards in nature, but he concludes from it that if you stand as though you already have confidence it'll somehow give you confidence. You know, the same way spending like you already have money will earn you more money. You can't posture your way into more confidence; the posture comes from the confidence in the first place. He also has a rule about telling the truth, or at least not lying, which this rule violates if you don't already feel the confidence you're projecting.
@@JervisGermane
I agree with you in that a lot of his thoughts are common sense but even common sense is not that common. George Carlin has a funny bit about this lol but once again, I'll gently remind you, I think you're taking the rules too literally, they are merely metaphors for action.
"Set your house in perfect order before you criticize the world"
I would leave it as "set your house in order", this is a good one in my opinion, it's actually rooted in the law of Entropy from physics and chemistry. Your'e right in that it's hard to balance with everything going on but that's what gives you energy to in the world. I wrote an essay about entropy here: medium.com/fiftytwo250/entropy-3884c1c49bab . For me this is the one rule that everyone should actually take to heart, this one actually saved me and made me a stronger person. It teaches you how to sort the world again and makes you more resilient. Huberman also has a soundbite about doing hard things as a way to mitigate cognitive decline and making you resilient, cleaning is awful LOL... I hate it but I have to do it.
"Petting a cat" is a metaphor to find peace in chaos. It's not about literally finding a cat haha... For me, my "petting of the cat" is just sitting by the river or lake and enjoying the simplicity and beauty of life. Pretty simple, but to your point, common sense.
"Stand with your shoulders back" / "If you stand as though you already have confidence it'll somehow give you confidence" this has actually been studied scientifically, it's the Superman pose. If you stand as superman for 2-3 minutes, it increases your testosterone and you become more confident, it's weird haha. Same idea if you smile with a pencil in your mouth, you become happier. The body has more neural pathways than the brain so what he is hinting at here, as well as a lot of literature in Hinduism like Yoga, is that the body and mind are DEEPLY connected. Fake it till you make it is a thing, I really hate to admit but it works!
To me this should really just say "have good posture to maintain your health to act positively in the world". I also have a background in ecology and genetics, I loved the Lobster analogy (remember, analogy not literal) because of what I know about these systems BUT it's a TERRIBLE analogy for the mainstream haha... this is where he needs to realize his examples fall short. Same thing with the skateboarding, I get the point he i trying to make but terrible example lol, it should be "let the kid play with lego" or something haha
Jordan Peterson? Really? Please choose better people to try and learn lessons from. The guy legitimately believes in hypergamy. Not a role model by a long shot
You obviously haven’t watched the full video if you said that. I was very specific about the context of his information and how it helped me, If you want to learn more about it, we can always do a video call so you can directly tell me how I should pick other people for my videos to my face. It’s easy to give feedback over text, try it in person or video.
The guy isn't a good person. I know there is a fallacy of not believing anything a person says because of one thing they believe but I don't listen to that man, period. Regardless of any good ideas he has he also believes in some of the most toxic ideas. He's a misogynist.
I'll continue to watch your videos. And no, I don't feel like talking in person. But thank you for the option.
The only thing I will add is that some of his ideas from Maps of Meaning saved me from destroying myself. I’ll give credit where credit is due.
The only reason why I offered a video chat is that if one can’t say their opinion in their own voice to the person, then it has little value. Something we should all, including myself, be mindful of as we take part on the internet. I think about this all the time as a standup comedian.
@@pokelosophy my opinion is my opinion. I don't need to vocalize it for it to have validity.
@@pokelosophy Getting away from religion did the same for me. Peterson, is not as smart or important as he thinks he is. I've heard the man speak enough to know I don't want to read any of his books.