Pirates and Politics... The Elder Scrolls: Redguard - Retrospective/Analysis Thingy
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- Опубликовано: 8 июл 2024
- By some, Redguard has been dubbed the title of the worst Elder Scrolls. But is that really the case? In this retrospective I'll be blowing the dust and cobwebs off this overlooked entry into the series to see just what it is that makes Redguard tick. Is it truly as god awful as people on the internet say it is? Or is it a diamond in the rough? And more importantly, does it have meme potential?
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CHAPTERS:
00:00:00 The Prelude
00:06:39 PLOTT
00:13:53 Stros M'Kai
00:31:06 The Delivery
00:37:17 Combat
00:43:34 The Delivery (Continued)
00:50:47 The Caverns
01:02:34 Dwarven Ruins
01:12:16 Software Vs Glide
01:16:09 Dwarven Ruins (Continued)
01:21:07 The Ritual
01:29:46 The Catacombs
01:37:49 Platforming
01:43:55 The Catacombs (Continued)
01:47:00 Finding the Restless League
01:59:44 The Map
02:16:12 T̸̺̋h̴͖͘ë̷̻́ ̴͇͌P̴͖̂i̴̻͊ľ̴͚g̶̘̚r̶̠̕a̴͉͝m̴̫͝ǎ̴͓ǵ̴̥e̷̩̓
02:18:42 Ngasta's Tower
02:25:05 Clavicus Vile
02:43:28 Recovering the Soul Gem
02:50:35 Soundtrack
02:56:30 Viva La Revolución!
03:09:43 Closing Thoughts
03:16:37 Le Outro
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REDGUARD UNITY PROJECT:
/ rgunity
UESP QUEST GUIDE:
en.uesp.net/wiki/Redguard:Quests
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LINKS AND SAUCES:
The Origin of Cyrus Comic - www.imperial-library.info/con...
Redguard Featured Article & Interviews - web.archive.org/web/200410271...
Redguard.com - web.archive.org/web/200604212...
Daggerfall's Sales - web.archive.org/web/199706060...
Concept Art The Imperial Library - www.imperial-library.info/con...
Bethesda's Official FAQ - en.uesp.net/wiki/Redguard:Off...
Lex Fridman Podcast with Todd Howard - • Todd Howard: Skyrim, E...
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OSTs USED:
Basically Every TES Game, Monkey Island SE, Sea Of Thieves, Cruelty Squad, Fallout 1, Half-Life
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Contact me on Discord - Kwezco
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Legendary effort. Good stuff dude!
Thanks, homes.
Babe wake up, Redguard analysis video just dropped!
Multi-hour videos on ancient TES games is just what I needed to listen to in the background. Because I can't be bothered playing the actual thing 😅
This one esp, there is hardly anything on this TES.
I jus got away from 2hrs of sitting in front of my pc with skyrim open on the main menu, not playing anything 🤦♂️
I wish they still made spin off games like this. A small scale linear action game set in a region of Tamriel could be cool.
Maybe a game about the adventures of Maiq? I really wish we got more smaller adventure games like this.
Would be nice if they did this between the major releases, I'd definitely prefer an ES Adventure game to ESO lol
@@thisTGESO isn't bad game, but its tottaly diffrent pair if shoes than singleplayer rpg
Let Arkane give it a spin. It'd be a great way to visit places like Black Marsh so you don't have to retcon it in a main game to allow humans and elves into the region.
Hell at this point I would pay 80 bucks for this reworked for xbox 360 haha. I would have loved to experience this game and with tech nowadays,why can't we? Remake it at least. Elder scrolls travels games should be crafted with care obviously but it would be awesome to have these travels games in between huge titles that take more than a decade to get out.
Here from the JWLAR link
Same
me too :)
We all are
I'm glad, the algorithm got me here :) my first long retrospective was literally jwlar on daggerfall so good to see the algogods blessing this one
I LOVE long-form Elder Scrolls analysis videos! I don't understand why people keep analysis videos so short, I think the Patrician's video analysis lenght is like the bare minimum just to be able to say anything worth saying, or make any analysis about each topic regarding the game.
I really liked your video. Time flew by, I felt like the video was way shorter than it was because it was so enjoyable and well narrated. Hope to see more from you!!
Glad it didn't suck 🔥🔥🔥
Because the danger is that you start missing the forrest for the trees. Anaylsis does not mean that you need to break down every quest or detail. Focus in a anaylisis or review is important.
@@bebo2629 Why not? A full and complete analysis would be breaking down every quest etc and that'd still be entertaining to me.
Patrician is so pretentious , hates everything that’s not Morrowind 😂
7:15 the joerilla jumpscare isn't intentional btw. It was for a bit that was cut and I accidentally left it in.
joerilla is probably the only thing i will remember from this video
This channel needs to blow up--it's criminially underappreciated. The perfect amount of chill dry humour, memes and not talking about the same 4 games for hours. Hilarious and so chill I can get away with it at work.
Good on you. I subbed barely into the video.
I will always have "The Redguard must not find his sister" imbedded in my brain.
Gave Redguard a shot a few years ago out of curiosity, and it really stuck with me. Wonderful dialogue writing in this one I feel, almost has a theatrical poetic vibe to it. The guys at bethesda were going for a very particular tone with this one and I think they nailed it, at least for me.
It's not a perfect game, but its got real spirit and I find it hard to not get sucked into the effort.
Great stuff dude I'm glad I found your channel!
Bless you for throwing your head against the wall that is redguard's mechanics. I am also slightly shocked that theyve had that guy as The Redguard Voice for this long, especially it and khajit being proper furries is first from here. Crazy that even with all the time and money gained from success that they never thought to revisit their greatest failure.
There’s so much potential in the setting and story here, I would love to see someone tackle a remake of this game
Easily one of the best video essays I've seen in a while. Your humor is 10/10 and i really enjoyed watching it
I feel like the writing (thank you Kirkbride) and a lot of the intent of what they were going for isn't actually a bad idea at all. If Bethesda made a short and sweet remake or remaster with actual functionality, I'd think it'd be golden. The hints and lore of Cyrus have always had me interested, and I know they wanted his Second Game to be in Black Marsh. I actually do like the concept of smaller more linear stories separate from the main games in time era, but the same world. Here is to hoping Bethesda embraces Cyrus and the concept again. Sail on my Cyrus, sail on.
finally, the content we need
nobody asked...
i answered
i've been asking for years
I agree youtube needs more lengthy elderscrolls content
Unnecessary nitpick: jumping is acrobatics, not athletics!
We will watch your career with great interest.
Redguard's financial failure might be partially due to the fact that it came out literally three weeks before Ocarina of Time, since it's trying to do a lot of the same things that game was doing (probably without even realizing it). Just... way, way worse.
2:54:51 I can shed some light on this. Well... sort of. You are correct in saying that MIDI tracks use various audio samples stored elsewhere for each instrument. However, most DOS and early Windows games use something known as a "General MIDI Format Soundfont". See, MIDI songs can't ask for a specific instrument, it can't just say "gimme a piano sound". A note can only ask for an instrument under a certain index number, like- "gimme instrument 1." And since various pieces of sound hardware at the time would have came bundled with their own sets of instrument samples (soundfonts), a standard was set among them so that musicians and software developers can reliably ask for whatever "instrument 1" is on the user's machine and expect it to be a piano.
This means the software doesn't have to package their own soundfont with the game, they can just use the default one on the machine. (Although MOD Tracker music is sort of like if you made a midi file with its own special soundfont glued to it)
On that note, that makes Redguard's lack of music all the more baffling, since they don't have to package audio samples with the game files. MIDIs are functionally just a set of instructions, they don't take up that much space. So I have no idea why it's like this. The only explanation I can think of was that the composers weren't given much time to work on the game.
Redguard doesn't use a MIDI soundtrack, that's why. All the music is on the CD.
@@MBM1117727 Okay, I did go back and take a closer listen to the soundtrack. Assuming that what's been uploaded to youtube is authentic to how it plays in the game, then I'm definitely hearing that more naturalistic reverb that you can't get out of a regular MIDI track.
That being said, while I'm not good enough at identifying audio samples to definitively say if this was originally composed as General MIDI tracks and then converted to MP3/WAV afterwards... I can say that they didn't make very good use of the CD audio and they really, really should have just stuck with MIDI.
@@HQ_Default That soundtrack is indeed how it sounds ingame.
This is a fantastic video. I LOVE the borders for chapters. They are so full of gags I'm sure I missed a bunch of references. The way you organized the game elements, told the story integrated into the aspects you wanted ti relate during each segment, everything like that, fantastic, really masterful.
Also this is the TES I know the least about. Seeing a 3 hour video was incredibly welcome. Thanks for making this. I'm only sorry I'm late to the party. I sub JWLR so I'm surprised I don't remember him plugging you, but I'm subbed now & super-impressed.
I'm glad YOU went in to a 3 hour discussion on ESA Redguard, sir. Thank you! Mmmmmm 'Kai.
The definitive longforme Redguard video yet. Great work!
Held back by technology. I have a soft spot for this game. Would be cool if Bethesda got Arkane or one of their other devs to make a TES game that isn't an RPG.
Also the compendium that contains the comic, lore info and tutorial is on the Uesp. The transcriptions are below the scans
I assume we would get something like Dark Messiah gameplay, with semi-open world we got in the released title.
I’m glad Redguard is getting talked about more often
Johnny Greenwood with a Unabomber t-shirt making videos about forgotten Bethesda games is apparently the RUclips content I never knew I needed
The UESP is definitely my favorite fanwiki ever
I'm so thankful that RUclips made the algorithm more small channel friendly, I would have never found this otherwise. Already excited for new uploads!
Also, at 2:16:30, those duplicate map structures are related to how your GPU processes stuff and it has to do with square roots of 2... sounds like a joke but is technically intended, the true error of the devs is how easily you can access that here. If anyones interested in a more in depth explanation, search for Mario 64 parallel universes. That's where you find good explanations because it can aid people in stupid challenges.
I'm here because I searched Jwlar and for some raisin your video showed up. Your channel is a gem.
No one has covered this game
Nice callback/surprise during The Sword Prince Speech --- It really validates the arguments about the VA-ing being better than its reputation suggests Kwezco made in the VA segment. It took a lot of restraint to leave the best example as a surprise then let it play thru as a scene, to keep the coherence + momentum of the storyline as a backbone. Good organization of material pays off. That was gobsmacking, such a good scene.
RIP Joto. That was one of the best representations of the cat folk I've ever seen.
EDIT: I think a better soundtrack, if someone nails it in a fan game, would make a huge impact in the game experience --- maybe going in a Tangerine Dream eerie ambient direction that's less obvious than the generic Hero Tunes already present or a desert-level-track-ifying would heighten the mystery + majesty they're trying to project & add more strangeness to the setting, making that "backrooms" vibe Kewzco mentioned an feature rather than drawback of the game.
I'm so glad somebody covered this game in depth! Growing up our family computer had so many issues running it that I had given up trying to finish it.
Such a great video analysis I hope you return your content is great man, I usually don’t like long form essays but I didn’t even notice really, you deserve more views 👍🏻
iirc the Dwarven Colossus has a weakpoint on an ankle Talos style (the Jason and the Argonaut Colossus, not the guy from Skyrim). Still means you're just whacking it till it dies, but there's a method to the madness. As much as I hate the dwarven volcano puzzle, the observatory and finding the flask of lilandril felt much worse. The former was bad even with a guide but at least the constellations were cool, and the latter broke me and made me use a guide in the first place. I couldn't even look up high enough to see the Leki painting in my version. The mushroom platforming is also terribly janky and without a guide it's entirely possible to try it, fail it, and assume it's just background noise and not the correct path.
Mages Guild isn't really an Imperial institution. It was founded by a member of the Psijic Order (High Elf) and for reasons completely unrelated to Imperials. Hilariously, that little hovel they call a Mages Guild is a big deal. Almost on par with the Arcane University if we're to believe dialogue in Oblivion.
People are crazy. We need more voice acting like Redguard's. So much personality.
tbf Daggerfall uses a lot of Arena songs. Even then though it's no contest, Redguard's soundtrack is simply too small even for its size.
By Kirkbride's own admission, Redguard was mostly Todd's vision, and he had to practically drag Kirk from work on Morrowind to help with the game. Credit to Kurt Kuhlman though. From what I can tell Kirkbride has nothing but good things to say about him.
i salute this comment
You would threaten an Imperial governor? Are you simple?
I could never get Redguard to run back in the day. Looking forward to this
This is a good video, absolutely loved the pacing, audio work, timing eith jokes. You could definitely make a seris out of looking st these more forgotten games that other channels tend to neglect
I don't know what to make of most of the stuff on your channel, but this was pretty neat. I hope you make more like this.
50 seconds into your intro.. you’re more sarcastic than me. I love it. Subbed already.
( god the work this must have taken! )
Thank you for this retrospective! I was always hoping somebody would make one. And great job, btw.
I’ve always wanted to check out Redguard but I was afraid of it for the longest time due to its reputation. After watching about 20 minutes of this I opened my steam library and played it for 4 hours straight and had a blast. Can’t wait to finish this video once I beat the game and then stick around for whatever else you may put out
Battlespire when?
Some time within the next couple of months, hopefully...
@@Kwezco MFW I will have an entire Elder Scrolls Gigaset folder full of yours, Jwlar's, PrivateSessions' and Patrician's analysis which will amount ot 100 hours of content ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
@@Ocean_Gaming we should send this all into space for alien colonies to enjoy
Thank you for your good hard work, I am delighted for the acquaintance. Stay strong, stay safe.
Todd didn't lie, he conducted a special language operation
Awesome video man; I also appreciated the quick Sam Hyde appearance at the start lol.
I do retrospectives on my own channel too and I fully appreciate the amount of work that goes into making them, and doing a 3 hour and 22 minute one is crazy!
Bravo m8
I have just seen the first 30 minutes of your retrospective and you are by far my best discovery for the month of June 😍It is just admirable that you created a 3 and a half hours of video spectacle about this (not so) obscure game from the Elder Scrolls universe 👏👏I can't wait for your next long form analysis 😁
Oh man, so glad I stumbled on your page, fantastic work! I remember getting hyped reading the review in PC Gamer, it think it might've been the same one that had Half-Life? As a kid who grew up on Treasure Island, Monkey Island, Sid Meyer's Pirates! and so much pirate media I thought this was going to be THE game for me. Got it, read the comic book and the little booklet religiously, couldn't get it to not crash on my dad's (at the time) state of the art pc. kept trying on and off for a few years whenever I got a pc or upgraded mine and still could not get it to work. Bought it on GOG and it's still...sadly what it's always been. Thank you so much for this retrospective because although I was in love with the idea of the game, I don't think I could ever make myself play through all that sludge.
Battlespire was honestly Bethesda's first official DLC mod for Daggerfall because it was meant to be the next part in the Daggerfall storyline from what I heard.
I was so pissed playing this. I remember three skeletons jumped into a rowboat when I was stuck in dialogue with the ferryman. I had to watch them kick my ass while I was stuck in a rambling diatribe about a man, who knew a man, who knew a man.
don't hate Todd hate the boardroom/suits he has to answer to
Patrician Tier analysis
I absolutely love this game for some reason. I never played it back in the day, only played the GOG release. Found it rather enjoyable. Glad to see this good retrospective on it! Came here after the Battlespire one (equally a great watch); keep up the great work!
If you want to expand your channel, I'd recommend more content like this, good shit 👍
Honestly based off the writings featuring Cyrus by MK the characterization of him in the game IS his personality, he really does just kind of adventure around based on his whims and once he decides to commit to a goal he will fight to the death for it, or cheat if necessary 😉
Finally a good length redguard retrospective. Thank you!
Interesting work! I am going to watch this in the following days. Personally I think these early / not often played TES games are much more interestintg to make RUclips videos about. There are hundreds videos about TES: III-V that are often way to long or unoriginal. Everyone played Sykrim and knows how to think about it. We do not need an other hours long video saying the stuff everyone knows since 2012, so this is a far better subject!
Here are some notes:
3:00 Todd Howard also was a designer on Daggerfall.
8:00 The crowns are more sympathetic to the Empire but they are not totally fine with Tiber Septim conquering them. Only after they start losing the civil war they call him for help and they do not even want him to stay. They do it to win against the crown but the reason for the conflict was not them wanting Tiber to conquer them.
10:00 Souls only go to the soul cairn when they are given to the ideal masters. Not all people who get soul trapped end there.
14:00 You should have mentioned the 1. Pocket Guide to the Empire which was written by Kirkbride, Ken Rolston, Kurt Kuhlmann and Richard Guy for the manuel of Redguard. It greately expands the lore of the series and gives a ton of new information on the cultures of Tamriel. It probably one of the most important aspects of the game, besides being the first non-RNG world Bethesda ever did.
This has become my autism support video, ive watched the whole thing like 5 times over a week, i just dont get bored of it, i cant expĺain it
The fact it has so few views is a crime, i hope it diesnt discourage you, id love to see more like this. Its probably my favourite video on youtube
Awesome video. Please make more Elder Scroll videos. I know lots of people have long videos on Elder Scroll games, but I think you have a unique style for these types of videos.
Seriously good work, I look forward to whatever future projects you have
Thank you for playing this narratively interesting but mechanically terrible game so that nobody else has to.
that was the plan
The Turning Point Cyrodiil meme for Admiral Richton is unmatched 😂
here from looking in the Twitter likes of mickyD. listened to the whole thing while working the night shift. the speech Cyrus gives is great. makes me wish there was a fan project to remaster/modernize some of the awful aspects of this games because there's alot of cool things here and there. thanks for the vid
I briefly mention the Redguard Unity project. I've linked their twooter in the description.
If jwlar recomends it. Its worth a watch. Your style is great.
Man, the positivity in this comment section is really great. Your video is also really really great, thank you for playing through the game and making a video! I'm really glad RUclips recommended this channel to me, I really enjoyed what I've seen and listened to so far. It's very very good and I hope you have other long videos planned for the future (as long as that's the kind of content you want to put out)
Great video! Very awesome, will fall asleep to this 100%
The background music for the game show Clavicus section is familiar and on the tip of my tongue and it is driving me nuts. Please assist.
It's from paper Mario. Sorry to have driven your nuts.
Track is called "and the question is..."
@@KwezcoRUclips decided to not let me know you responded. Thank you.
That yo-yo tho.
Maybe Vile has multiple voices mixed together & Todd is in the mix. Agreed on the brigand Todd.
I encourage you to speak in your natural voice. You don't need an "on-air" inflection. Excellent scholarship on Redguard.
Goofy ahh comment
@@TheRealMycanthrope What a cranky comment i made, what was my problem 4 months ago. Im going to rewrite it 🙄
Probably the most comprehensive coverage of a game I’ve seen. Nice
Came for Lore, stayed for Big Cheese and glue traps.
I love Cyrus. He can cause nuclear explosions with his sword.
Reread the story that’s from. He was lying.
excellent video. you should totally make one about other obscure bethesda games, like battlespire or fallout tactics
Battlespire's up next 😈
@@Kwezco sweet
Fallout tactics, the classic bethesda title.
@@TheHometodd i know it's black isle but it's still fallout, and the rights are owned by bethesda
45 seconds in and you've earned my subscription.
That Todd Howard bit fucked me all the way up as someone WAS at my door fuck me I wasn’t ready for a real life jumpscare
Am i going crazy or did you use music from cruelty squad at some point? I swear i heard it but i cant find it now
yes, but youll never find it >:)
@@Kwezco the slurp eludes me >:(
Underrated channel. Hope you blow up dude!
Well this was lovely, Jwlar send me here and after my second watch through I fell compelled to congratulate you on your effort, this has earned its place in my personal Long-form TES playlist alongside Jwlar's Arena and Daggerfall aswell as Patrician's Morrowind, Oblivion and Skyrim. Now the only task left is for someone to do one on Battlespire (and I guess that one obscure obscure handheld one)
There actually is a very good 1-hour long commentary on Battlespire
ruclips.net/video/1eutg7IBpHo/видео.htmlsi=ta3dIExOnkb78l4U
very cosy video 💜 thank u, hope you go far 💚
1:19:33 **the neanderthal child from the Wild Thornberries**
Great video looking forward to more retrospectives! Jade empire?
Hadn't heard of it but it certainly looks goofy
@Kwezco it's biowares forgotten middle child rpg between kotor and dragon age I love it but recognize it's far from flawless
i have been looking for this game for ages, i saw a video on it years ago an ive been on the hunt ever since
you are a blessing
I love how at 0:41 half of the search results for the multi hours elder scrolls videos are of patricianTV 😅
2:42:27 wow the devs put all their whole fights with their wives into this
2:17:30 holy shit, I can't believe Redguard has parallel universes
What is it with bethesda games and extremely interesting developments. Literally my niche little hobby is just knowledge dumping bethesda junk and people like you are so helpful
Man. yeah didn’t know this was a three plus hour subject. Thanks for doing it.
You did a phenomenal job. Excellent work!
Great effort! I assume we'll get a Battlespire and/or Shadowkey one too? corner the spinoff tes market while its fresh!
Battlespire is in the works. Should be on the channel sometime later this month 👍
thank fucking god someone made a video longer than 20 mins about this game
You know though, all else about this plot, you gotta say that Cyrus can pull a good speech out of his ass about following a sword. And the titanium balls to be threatening a Daedric Prince.
Loved the video. Thank you so much for your work!
Great video, humor and coverage of the game was very well done.
3:01:17 im cackling in laughter what the hell this is so dope
2:25:32 ill retire you from the pantheon jesus what a line
Here from *JWLAR* 🎉
Nice video dude, I wish youtube recommendations understood me so I got stuff like this more often
love these retrospectives on obscure and less played games
I think that you're being unfair to the combat! I wouldn't go so far as to say that it's good but there is an element of timing and positioning that determines if your attack is parried or not. There's also the resource managment with the health/strength/ironskin potions. That said, you're absolutely correct in saying that its a question of whether you can put up with the dungeons for the story bits, which as it turns out I couldn't personally :(. A shame, since I actually quite like the game when it's dialogues and puzzles and it's more of a (non-action) adventure game.
Skyrim actually flat out confirms gun powder is canon with the use of cannons being on the ships you can boars.
Cannons being canon sorta implies smaller firearms could be.
Since the controls are so bad why not just use an external program to remap the controls to a controller? Even though I would prefer keyboard and mouse WASD control. Since you can't have that a controller would be the next best option. Not sure what you would use on Windows. On Linux I use a program called AntiMicroX. It allows you to set up different profiles for each game you want to map controls for. You can map any keys to any button on any controller. It even let's you bind mouse clicks to buttons and mouse movements to different axis.
This video was so good I’m re-watching it again. Right up there with jwlar top notch effort !
So there are side quests and a way to upgrade your dword damage without the potions (at least temporarily). One of the side quests is even a treasure hunt based on a riddle like you wanted.
i looked it up and there are a few things on the wiki that i just had no idea about during my playthrough. which i guess highlights a flaw that these things may be too far off the beaten path for anyone to find
@@Kwezco the parrot riddle is actually one of my favorite puzzles and side quests. It's ultimately useless but a fun bit of word play
Will you make a video about battlespire?
One day, aye.