Eric this turned out great! Glad I was able to provide decent footage while falling up the hill. As for the Jeep, thanks for letting me take it or a spin. The EcoDiesel engine is a monster. I kinda regret getting the Hemi in my WK2. If I could swing the cost of a new Wrangler with that engine, I'd be all over it. I managed to follow along fine in my Grand Cherokee Trailhawk that day, but the Wrangler was able to do each obstacle with far less drama. Great video.
We bought a 2020 Willys this year with the Diesel and so love it so far. It has a ton of power and sounds pretty awesome too. I am hoping it will last because we plan on keeping it for a long time. My understanding is that the Diesel jeeps come w the dana 44 up front and the Rubicon shocks, due to the additional weight. It's a little perk for those of us not getting an actual Rubicon. So far so good, it's a blast to drive.
Wow! What a machine! For the intended purpose that is. Didn't even struggle with any of those obstacles. Crazy. Looks like you could put a 3" lift on it, bigger tires, and literally go anywhere. Including floating across the ocean on massive tires! Hahaha. I kid, but really great video. Shout out to Fully Spooled for the awesome outside shots.
whoa! I love that color. My girlfriend and I are looking at getting an 18+ Wrangler soon. Been doing a ton of research on these things. If you had to recommend one powertrain combo (preferably an auto because it'll be used to carry around our kids), what would you recommend? It will be her daily driver
The color is called Hella Yella and I'm all about it! You can get all Jeeps with an automatic. The EcoDiesel will get you the best fuel economy by far. I noted 20mpg with several hours of off roading in 4L. You'll do better than that. My second choice would be the Pentstar 3.6l v6 because it's been around for so long. The 4 cylinder should get comparable fuel economy to the 3.6L, but personally I prefer the 6.
Cameron Hill owning a diesel is much different than gas. You will want to treat your fuel, also cool weather can be a pain. Just double check overall real reviews on that engine
Cameron Hill get the diesel. I’m intimately familiar with all three. My next door neighbor has a diesel JL on 37” tires and it still gets 28mpg on the highway
The gasoline engine will be cheaper to service as well as repairs. All depends on how much you make. I bet the ecoDiesel is more fun, but you pay for your strokes. Either way you got a jeep!
This was the last thing that Jeep needed to do to complete a "full package". For decades people have been adapting V8's and diesel to Jeeps, and Jeep delivered both with the JL. I just bought my new JL Diesel Rubicon and I am very pleased with it.
one problem with the Eco Diesel is the price of oil changes $240 due to the especial cartridge oil filter that retails for $75, If I bought a Jeep I would spring for the Diesel
To stop the wandering drop your air pressure down to 33 pounds it will make a huge difference mine came in with 42 pounds and once I dropped it it drove straight and true
I have some seat time in a 2018 JL Sahara and agree with your individual characterizations of the pros/cons. I also liked your demonstration of the diesel Rubi’s off-road prowess. But, I think your use of the word “flawed” in the title is clickbait. To say it wanders a bit on the freeway or is noisy compared to a crossover doesn’t mean it’s flawed. You get people, me included, thinking there is something wrong or defective with it when, by your own review, there isn’t.
I’ve owned Jeeps my entire life. YJ, TJ, XJ.. haven’t made the jump to any 07 or later models but I can say with 100% certainty that when off-roading I’ve never thought, “my Jeep is lacking torque.” Yeah on paper, the numbers don’t look super impressive torque wise, but that is literally the purpose of the 4:1 transfer case, lockers, and disconnected sway bar. There is a reason Jeep has been the most capable factory built off road vehicle for many decades now. I think people mainly wanted the Diesel for towing or for better fuel economy but I could be wrong; thoughts? I mean after all, The diesel only comes in an automatic...sooo? 🤷♂️
It's really the best of both worlds. The MPGs are certainly much better and it has more torque. The only downside is the $4K premium +$2k automatic. Most people will get the auto though, so it boils down to how much you want to spend up front vs longer term benefits.
@@toddwilkerson5761 please check the website and go to Build Your Jeep. The standard transmission for the EcoDiesel engine is the manual six speed and the automatic can be chosen for an additional $1,500. This is publicly accessible information, so please inform yourself and do not spread incorrect information.
Great review and video! the title is misleading, though: "flawed"? This Wrangler Rubicon with the Diesel engine is great. I have owned mine since September 2020.
Who knows what to believe, everybody i now says they have trouble out of the eco diesel and it will not last. Longevity is the main reason for a diesel.
That is just the uninformed talking: the Diesel engine is great and has a long life span. I have driven vehicles with this engine since 2014: two Grand Cherokees and the Wrangler Rubicon EcoDiesel since September 2020.
The biggest flaw was not brining a diesel to market 20 years sooner. Now it’s expensive and possibly temperamental emissions systems adding weight and cost.
RevMatchTV yea. My comment wasn’t to be dismissive to this rig as you seemed ecstatic about it and I’m sure rightfully so, but 20 years ago imagine having a factory built, mechanical, non-emissions engine getting 50mpg and being able to run on everything from veggie juice to used motor oil all while giving 500k of trouble free use. That is of course if anyone can actually stand riding 500k in a wrangler.
Great review Eric!! EcoDiesel is a very capable engine and coupled to the Rubicon it's the best of 3 worlds, Offroading, torque torque torque is always what you want in a 4wheeler, and great interior/infotainment/gauges. I have a 7.3L turbodiesel Excursion, a Turbodiesel VW Passat, and a turbodiesel Audi TT Quattro (modified) so I like torque. You could have also mentioned how long these engines last in miles, my older Jetta had 425K miles when I sold it and still going strong. It's about time Jeep mated the EcoDiesel to the Rubicon!! Well done review!!
@@revmatchtv I dunno, the ecodiesel has been out since 2014 and is Italian made. It has had a major recall due to a fire hazard, subject of a 800 million dollar lawsuit, and recvd a poor rating from the Automobile Protection Assoc for main bearing failure. Lots of knowledgeable mechanics will steering you away from this engine. I know this is the Gen3 version, but its been out for 6 years and now suddenly its a perfected engine? The ecodiesel has not proven itself like a cummins. I think the days of the diesel engine are numbered actually. California even wanted to ban them for awhile. The new emissions standards are the bane of any new diesel. For the jeep, the only benefit I can see is the extra torque and not many of us really need that. Its certainly not a towing machine, there lots of better trucks for that and you don't really save on the mileage. You pay almost 5k more for that engine and pay a payload penalty. You have figure in DEF fluid costs, higher oil change costs, and more emissions costs.
Reason to buy a diesel. 1. you don't have to worry about the gas fumes igniting from static electricity. 2. Better fuel mileage. 3. A lot less maintenance, and no worries about a tune-up. 4. With it being a diesel you can also add a tuner to it and get more horsepower and more foot pounds of torque then you can get from a gas engine.
I don't understand why they didn't start offering this engine in their entire jeep lineup here in north america sooner, they've been doing so in europe for years.
@@revmatchtv Its a shame they never worked with cummins too develop a diesel version of the 2.4L 4 that they put in the patriot compass and cherokee. If they did start offering a diesel in the compass I'd get one in a heartbeat.
There are a lot of problems for Diesel engines in the American market. The first problem is that diesel fuel is often more expensive than the lower grades of gasoline. Another problem is that our emissions laws are very strict so it’s hard to clean up diesels to pass without expensive (to buy and maintain) systems to clean the exhaust
This i the third generation of this diesel. It has new intake ports, a new EGR system, and new pistons, and a new turbo. The second gen engine was in the 2018 Grand Cherokee. I can't comment on reliability as I only had this a week, but it does make fantastic torque and I got very good fuel economy - over 20mpg with a combo of off roading and highway.
@@revmatchtv l luv diesel and i am soo happy that diesel wrangler is available. that so sad that the only 4dr version is for diesel in usa. however 2dr diesels still available in europe.
"has a very serious problems": in the U.S. (since you write in broken English I am assuming your are based overseas) there are no serious problems. I am driving my third vehicle with the 3.0 L V6 Diesel engine, two Grand Cherokees and now a Wrangler Rubicon, and since 2014 I have not had any problem.
I love mine. That engine is a blast. You should have locked your lockers. Use that plus button. Then you can run 4hi with lockers on and go fast.. I'm 250 pounds, 6.2 the sheets are fine. This is not a luxury car. Its a jeep dude. And the leather sheets are better offroad because they are easier to clean when done. The cloth gets sweat and dirt I'm it which is harder to het out. Now if you never take it off road then fine, but then you shouldn't be buying one of these. I love my jlu and gladiator ecodiesl
No kidding. Watching and wondering why they weren't engaged. Lockers and 4H would have just walked up that hill. And you don't get maximum traction by being in 4L, you get maximum power due to gear reduction.
So everyone complains about the price......... just so you know..... when you sell the vehicle it is worth more because of the diesel... no money loss. Period. And the transmission ya you pay 2 grand for like every other model. It's a mute comment. Means nothing. Better mileage tons of power for big tires. I just bought one it's amazing. And the comment about leather seats aren't good for off roading? What are you smoking? They don't collect dust mud or dog hair! City folks shouldn't reveiw things they don't understand.
It is so comical with all these so-called Ph.D. the keyboard engineers etc. how they don't like FCA products for one fake reason or the other... they talk how they know everything yet they don't... I have talked with many owners/drivers... the questions I ask, what year is the vehicle, and would they recommend the vehicle... 8 out of 10 DO recommend the vehicle some say this is their 3rd 4th and only buy these vehicles... nothing else... Down the street, a person has a wrangler power wagon gladiator and some kind of 1950 truck in red it is beautiful.... so these so-called experts and such are like politicians they talk out of their arses and say nothing
I've driven quite a few FCA vehicles and I can say they really have a lot of character and many are built for enthusiasts. They have their shortcomings, but everything does. Overall, the Ecodiesel is a fantastic engine and of course the Rubicon will go near anywhere in stock trim. I'm definitely a Wrangler fan. FCA sells a lot for a reason and they hold their value pretty well.
This is exactly what drives people crazy. No matter FCA does people always find fault. You are correct they still go out and buy them new or old. I own a JK and you better believe they just trash the product constantly. Now fast forward 10 to 15 years from now and guess what they love the JK now. They will find issues with next new line. It's just keeps going and going. I say enjoy them all jeeps are fun and to hell what they say it's your jeep enjoy it where it takes you...👍👍👍
Tiring!!!????? To turn a steering wheel that has power steering??!!! Man if that is tiring I don't think he'd be able to drive a vehicle in the old days..... You know before power steering
I didn't say the power steering was tiring. I said that it’s tiring to drive on the freeway because it requires a lot of attention and steering corrections compared to a vehicle with independent front suspension.
This demonstration is nothing new. Whats missing is a serious study of the engine. Long tern reliability? History of sot build up, where engine is made? What other worldwide vessels utilize the platform? The oil burning engine should be the primary target to evaluating this jeep. I muted your voice as moving up hill in four Hi means nothing to jeepers whom fully realize what TFL has already demonstrated. $4000 for a motor- Made where? How about buying a plane ticket and taking your viewer into the manufacturing facility doing a full video investigation.
No "serious study" is needed: millions of these engines have been built and mounted in SUVs, pick up trucks, passenger cars and high performance cars (Maserati).
@@bloomfieldgriller2957 Again? By whom? Where? What other vehicles? Maserati? They use this Diesel engine? Really? Shall I google it? Merely questioning it all.
@@bloomfieldgriller2957 - Maserati manufactures Jeep Chrysler oil burners? If so? Why the secrecy surrounding it? I believe Maserati is a great manufacturer! I apologize for appearing snarky, Its the reviewers whom seemingly never care to clarify consumer questions. As Darth Vader once said: “I find this unxceptable” 😲 Thank you for clarification.
VM Motori Maserati's new engine design is based on a VM Motori diesel engine, developed jointly by Maserati and Ferrari (both are Fiat Auto business units.) VM Motori is a Fiat/General Motors joint ventu
@@2015_Rubicnn I like my cars to not rattle apart. Last jeep anyone in my family owned was a renegade that needed a transfer case and trans before 40k miles, 2 new batteries and an alternator because none of the glove box or trunk lights would turn off at first, and a new ecu for unknown reasons the dealership didn't specify before lemon lawing the vehicle. Last dodge I owned need new engine due to oil starvation on cyl 5 and spinning a bearing at 62k miles, the trans for the torque converter over heating at 73k, clutch got stuck. My sister's brand new wrangler oscar Mike edition lost a fender flare driving on the highway and had a cel on when she sold it at 18k miles. Family had a journey that was the most reliable and was traded in when the trans started slipping at ~87k miles. I speak from experience on multiple cars they have no qc.
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Eric this turned out great! Glad I was able to provide decent footage while falling up the hill. As for the Jeep, thanks for letting me take it or a spin. The EcoDiesel engine is a monster. I kinda regret getting the Hemi in my WK2. If I could swing the cost of a new Wrangler with that engine, I'd be all over it.
I managed to follow along fine in my Grand Cherokee Trailhawk that day, but the Wrangler was able to do each obstacle with far less drama. Great video.
Thanks for the help with filming! I agree this engine is a beast!
I’ll be ordering my Diesel Gladiator next week. Been waiting nearly three years. If the bronco was coming with a truck option I’d be really tempted
Enjoy it! :)
You're going to love it!
I ordered my EcoDiesel Rubicon 4dr Wrangler last week! Can’t wait! Congrats on your order.
We bought a 2020 Willys this year with the Diesel and so love it so far. It has a ton of power and sounds pretty awesome too. I am hoping it will last because we plan on keeping it for a long time. My understanding is that the Diesel jeeps come w the dana 44 up front and the Rubicon shocks, due to the additional weight. It's a little perk for those of us not getting an actual Rubicon. So far so good, it's a blast to drive.
Wow! What a machine! For the intended purpose that is. Didn't even struggle with any of those obstacles. Crazy. Looks like you could put a 3" lift on it, bigger tires, and literally go anywhere. Including floating across the ocean on massive tires! Hahaha. I kid, but really great video. Shout out to Fully Spooled for the awesome outside shots.
I feel like it's so much more capable than what I showed.
whoa! I love that color. My girlfriend and I are looking at getting an 18+ Wrangler soon. Been doing a ton of research on these things. If you had to recommend one powertrain combo (preferably an auto because it'll be used to carry around our kids), what would you recommend? It will be her daily driver
The color is called Hella Yella and I'm all about it! You can get all Jeeps with an automatic. The EcoDiesel will get you the best fuel economy by far. I noted 20mpg with several hours of off roading in 4L. You'll do better than that. My second choice would be the Pentstar 3.6l v6 because it's been around for so long. The 4 cylinder should get comparable fuel economy to the 3.6L, but personally I prefer the 6.
Cameron Hill owning a diesel is much different than gas. You will want to treat your fuel, also cool weather can be a pain.
Just double check overall real reviews on that engine
RevMatchTV thanks erik!
Cameron Hill get the diesel. I’m intimately familiar with all three. My next door neighbor has a diesel JL on 37” tires and it still gets 28mpg on the highway
The gasoline engine will be cheaper to service as well as repairs. All depends on how much you make. I bet the ecoDiesel is more fun, but you pay for your strokes. Either way you got a jeep!
Just ordered a 2021 Rubicon Diesel yesterday. Can’t wait for it to arrive!
4wd hi and low have nothing to do with open diffs... lock them
Factory lockers cannot be engaged in Hi range
This was the last thing that Jeep needed to do to complete a "full package". For decades people have been adapting V8's and diesel to Jeeps, and Jeep delivered both with the JL. I just bought my new JL Diesel Rubicon and I am very pleased with it.
Great choice!
one problem with the Eco Diesel is the price of oil changes $240 due to the especial cartridge oil filter that retails for $75, If I bought a Jeep I would spring for the Diesel
True, but you fuel savings will negate that many times over
When you can afford to buy a $60,000 vehicle it is not an issue whether an oil change is $240 or $200
To stop the wandering drop your air pressure down to 33 pounds it will make a huge difference mine came in with 42 pounds and once I dropped it it drove straight and true
I have some seat time in a 2018 JL Sahara and agree with your individual characterizations of the pros/cons. I also liked your demonstration of the diesel Rubi’s off-road prowess. But, I think your use of the word “flawed” in the title is clickbait. To say it wanders a bit on the freeway or is noisy compared to a crossover doesn’t mean it’s flawed. You get people, me included, thinking there is something wrong or defective with it when, by your own review, there isn’t.
Wranglers do not come with engine skid plates, so nothing protecting the oil pan.
I’ve owned Jeeps my entire life. YJ, TJ, XJ.. haven’t made the jump to any 07 or later models but I can say with 100% certainty that when off-roading I’ve never thought, “my Jeep is lacking torque.” Yeah on paper, the numbers don’t look super impressive torque wise, but that is literally the purpose of the 4:1 transfer case, lockers, and disconnected sway bar. There is a reason Jeep has been the most capable factory built off road vehicle for many decades now. I think people mainly wanted the Diesel for towing or for better fuel economy but I could be wrong; thoughts? I mean after all, The diesel only comes in an automatic...sooo? 🤷♂️
It's really the best of both worlds. The MPGs are certainly much better and it has more torque. The only downside is the $4K premium +$2k automatic. Most people will get the auto though, so it boils down to how much you want to spend up front vs longer term benefits.
No, the EcoDiesel option is either manual or automatic, whichever is your preference
@@bloomfieldgriller2957 no ecodiesel only come in automatic. Manual can't handle the torque.
@@toddwilkerson5761 please check the website and go to Build Your Jeep. The standard transmission for the EcoDiesel engine is the manual six speed and the automatic can be chosen for an additional $1,500. This is publicly accessible information, so please inform yourself and do not spread incorrect information.
@@bloomfieldgriller2957 when you pick the diesel option the only trans it will give you is the auto. Can not have the manual with the diesel.
Great review and video! the title is misleading, though: "flawed"? This Wrangler Rubicon with the Diesel engine is great. I have owned mine since September 2020.
It’s not perfect, it has flaws. Overall it’s a great vehicle though.
How about a Grand Cherokee Trailhawk off road review?
Put lockers on dude
Who knows what to believe, everybody i now says they have trouble out of the eco diesel and it will not last. Longevity is the main reason for a diesel.
That is just the uninformed talking: the Diesel engine is great and has a long life span. I have driven vehicles with this engine since 2014: two Grand Cherokees and the Wrangler Rubicon EcoDiesel since September 2020.
I think the diesel is 3:75 not 4:1 transfer case
The biggest flaw was not brining a diesel to market 20 years sooner. Now it’s expensive and possibly temperamental emissions systems adding weight and cost.
The US market has always been cool to passenger vehicle diesels.
RevMatchTV yea. My comment wasn’t to be dismissive to this rig as you seemed ecstatic about it and I’m sure rightfully so, but 20 years ago imagine having a factory built, mechanical, non-emissions engine getting 50mpg and being able to run on everything from veggie juice to used motor oil all while giving 500k of trouble free use.
That is of course if anyone can actually stand riding 500k in a wrangler.
Great review Eric!! EcoDiesel is a very capable engine and coupled to the Rubicon it's the best of 3 worlds, Offroading, torque torque torque is always what you want in a 4wheeler, and great interior/infotainment/gauges.
I have a 7.3L turbodiesel Excursion, a Turbodiesel VW Passat, and a turbodiesel Audi TT Quattro (modified) so I like torque. You could have also mentioned how long these engines last in miles, my older Jetta had 425K miles when I sold it and still going strong. It's about time Jeep mated the EcoDiesel to the Rubicon!! Well done review!!
Glad you enjoyed it! Yes, I'm a fan of modern diesel engines. They last forever and the torque is undeniable.
@@revmatchtv I dunno, the ecodiesel has been out since 2014 and is Italian made. It has had a major recall due to a fire hazard, subject of a 800 million dollar lawsuit, and recvd a poor rating from the Automobile Protection Assoc for main bearing failure. Lots of knowledgeable mechanics will steering you away from this engine. I know this is the Gen3 version, but its been out for 6 years and now suddenly its a perfected engine? The ecodiesel has not proven itself like a cummins. I think the days of the diesel engine are numbered actually. California even wanted to ban them for awhile. The new emissions standards are the bane of any new diesel. For the jeep, the only benefit I can see is the extra torque and not many of us really need that. Its certainly not a towing machine, there lots of better trucks for that and you don't really save on the mileage. You pay almost 5k more for that engine and pay a payload penalty. You have figure in DEF fluid costs, higher oil change costs, and more emissions costs.
Reason to buy a diesel.
1. you don't have to worry about the gas fumes igniting from static electricity.
2. Better fuel mileage.
3. A lot less maintenance, and no worries about a tune-up.
4. With it being a diesel you can also add a tuner to it and get more horsepower and more foot pounds of torque then you can get from a gas engine.
And longer engine life span
I don't understand why they didn't start offering this engine in their entire jeep lineup here in north america sooner, they've been doing so in europe for years.
Diesel engines have never been popular here. It's a fantastic powerplant imho.
@@revmatchtv
Its a shame they never worked with cummins too develop a diesel version of the 2.4L 4 that they put in the patriot compass and cherokee.
If they did start offering a diesel in the compass I'd get one in a heartbeat.
There are a lot of problems for Diesel engines in the American market. The first problem is that diesel fuel is often more expensive than the lower grades of gasoline. Another problem is that our emissions laws are very strict so it’s hard to clean up diesels to pass without expensive (to buy and maintain) systems to clean the exhaust
@@joetz1 so no problems, just cost which you either accept or not. That is a matter of choice.
where did you film the off road portion of the video?
Hungry Valley in California.
That poor on center steering feel seems to only be a problem with the heavy Diesel. The 2.0T is much better in the steering department.
i hope 3.0 diesel engine is not from grand cherokee bcoz that g-cherokee diesel has a very serious problems.
This i the third generation of this diesel. It has new intake ports, a new EGR system, and new pistons, and a new turbo. The second gen engine was in the 2018 Grand Cherokee. I can't comment on reliability as I only had this a week, but it does make fantastic torque and I got very good fuel economy - over 20mpg with a combo of off roading and highway.
@@revmatchtv l luv diesel and i am soo happy that diesel wrangler is available. that so sad that the only 4dr version is for diesel in usa. however 2dr diesels still available in europe.
"has a very serious problems": in the U.S. (since you write in broken English I am assuming your are based overseas) there are no serious problems. I am driving my third vehicle with the 3.0 L V6 Diesel engine, two Grand Cherokees and now a Wrangler Rubicon, and since 2014 I have not had any problem.
@@bloomfieldgriller2957 it's good to hear. thnxs for comment. i luv diesel and i deeply hope that all will be just fine.
@@johnreno8909 it will be fine
Also, flawed was it isn't the perfect cross over SUV and the price?
It's a vehicle with a pretty singular purpose. I can't think of anything more capable off road that you can buy from a dealer today.
Will you do this for the Bronco? Please!
Hopefully Ford will allow me to.
I love mine. That engine is a blast. You should have locked your lockers. Use that plus button. Then you can run 4hi with lockers on and go fast.. I'm 250 pounds, 6.2 the sheets are fine. This is not a luxury car. Its a jeep dude. And the leather sheets are better offroad because they are easier to clean when done. The cloth gets sweat and dirt I'm it which is harder to het out. Now if you never take it off road then fine, but then you shouldn't be buying one of these. I love my jlu and gladiator ecodiesl
I dig the diesel!
More Torque does not equal more grip... it equals more torque
High or low as for turbo diesels, its no different
Momentum.
Can be your friend ...
About the seats! Jeep please upgrade the seats to more comfortable ones.
Add it to the mod list
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Really… 4H without sway disconnect on vs 4L with sway disconnected is your idea of a fair fight? Lol
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I want it too!!!!
I highly enjoyed it!
Lockers.
No kidding. Watching and wondering why they weren't engaged. Lockers and 4H would have just walked up that hill. And you don't get maximum traction by being in 4L, you get maximum power due to gear reduction.
So everyone complains about the price......... just so you know..... when you sell the vehicle it is worth more because of the diesel... no money loss. Period. And the transmission ya you pay 2 grand for like every other model. It's a mute comment. Means nothing. Better mileage tons of power for big tires. I just bought one it's amazing. And the comment about leather seats aren't good for off roading? What are you smoking? They don't collect dust mud or dog hair! City folks shouldn't reveiw things they don't understand.
Obvious not a four wheeler guy
It is so comical with all these so-called Ph.D. the keyboard engineers etc. how they don't like FCA products for one fake reason or the other... they talk how they know everything yet they don't...
I have talked with many owners/drivers... the questions I ask, what year is the vehicle, and would they recommend the vehicle... 8 out of 10 DO recommend the vehicle some say this is their 3rd 4th and only buy these vehicles... nothing else... Down the street, a person has a wrangler power wagon gladiator and some kind of 1950 truck in red it is beautiful.... so these so-called experts and such are like politicians they talk out of their arses and say nothing
I've driven quite a few FCA vehicles and I can say they really have a lot of character and many are built for enthusiasts. They have their shortcomings, but everything does. Overall, the Ecodiesel is a fantastic engine and of course the Rubicon will go near anywhere in stock trim. I'm definitely a Wrangler fan. FCA sells a lot for a reason and they hold their value pretty well.
This is exactly what drives people crazy. No matter FCA does people always find fault. You are correct they still go out and buy them new or old. I own a JK and you better believe they just trash the product constantly. Now fast forward 10 to 15 years from now and guess what they love the JK now. They will find issues with next new line. It's just keeps going and going. I say enjoy them all jeeps are fun and to hell what they say it's your jeep enjoy it where it takes you...👍👍👍
Excellent points.
Tiring!!!????? To turn a steering wheel that has power steering??!!! Man if that is tiring I don't think he'd be able to drive a vehicle in the old days..... You know before power steering
I didn't say the power steering was tiring. I said that it’s tiring to drive on the freeway because it requires a lot of attention and steering corrections compared to a vehicle with independent front suspension.
This demonstration is nothing new.
Whats missing is a serious study of the engine. Long tern reliability? History of sot build up, where engine is made? What other worldwide vessels utilize the platform? The oil burning engine should be the primary target to evaluating this jeep. I muted your voice as moving up hill in four Hi means nothing to jeepers whom fully realize what TFL has already demonstrated.
$4000 for a motor- Made where? How about buying a plane ticket and taking your viewer into the manufacturing facility doing a full video investigation.
No "serious study" is needed: millions of these engines have been built and mounted in SUVs, pick up trucks, passenger cars and high performance cars (Maserati).
@@bloomfieldgriller2957 Again? By whom? Where? What other vehicles? Maserati? They use this Diesel engine? Really? Shall I google it? Merely questioning it all.
@@garbinator09 just inform yourself. Applications for this engine publicly accessible information.
A630 applications (EU):
2011 Jeep Grand Cherokee
power 241 PS (177 kW; 238 hp), torque 550 N⋅m (406 lb⋅ft)
2012 Chrysler 300 /Lancia Thema (Europe)
power 190 PS (140 kW; 187 hp) @ 4000 rpm, torque 440 N⋅m (325 lb⋅ft) @ 1600-2800 rpm
power 239 PS (176 kW; 236 hp) @ 4000 rpm, torque 550 N⋅m (406 lb⋅ft) @ 1800-2800 rpm
2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee (FPT Multijet II)
power 250 PS (184 kW; 247 hp) @ 4000 rpm, torque 570 N⋅m (420 lb⋅ft) @ 2000 rpm
L630 applications (US):
2014/2015/2016/2017 Jeep Grand Cherokee
power 243 PS (179 kW; 240 hp) @ 3600 rpm, torque 570 N⋅m (420 lb⋅ft) @ 2000 rpm
2014 Ram 1500
power 243 PS (179 kW; 240 hp) @ 3600 rpm, torque 570 N⋅m (420 lb⋅ft) @ 2000 rpm
Such engines were found to have emissions defeat devices on model year 2014-2016 vehicles.[24]
A630 HP applications (EU):
2013 Maserati Ghibli III
power 275 PS (202 kW; 271 hp) @ 4000 rpm, torque 600 N⋅m (443 lb⋅ft) @ 2000 rpm
2013 Maserati Quattroporte VI
power 275 PS (202 kW; 271 hp) @ 4000 rpm, torque 600 N⋅m (443 lb⋅ft) @ 2000-2600 rpm
2016 Maserati Levante
power 250 PS (184 kW; 247 hp) @ 4000 rpm, torque 600 N⋅m (443 lb⋅ft) @ 2000-2600 rpm
power 275 PS (202 kW; 271 hp) @ 4000 rpm, torque 600 N⋅m (443 lb⋅ft) @ 2000-2600 rpm
@@bloomfieldgriller2957 - Maserati manufactures Jeep Chrysler oil burners? If so? Why the secrecy surrounding it? I believe Maserati is a great manufacturer!
I apologize for appearing snarky, Its the reviewers whom seemingly never care to clarify consumer questions. As Darth Vader once said: “I find this unxceptable” 😲
Thank you for clarification.
VM Motori
Maserati's new engine design is based on a VM Motori diesel engine, developed jointly by Maserati and Ferrari (both are Fiat Auto business units.) VM Motori is a Fiat/General Motors joint ventu
Too capable, it becomes boring
When capable is boring... OK then!
You could try walking up the mountain trail.
Too bad jeeps are trash vehicles. Half decent off-road and no where else.
Everyone has an opinion!
Sounds like someone is jealous they can't afford one....
Your mom is half decent.
@@2015_Rubicnn I like my cars to not rattle apart. Last jeep anyone in my family owned was a renegade that needed a transfer case and trans before 40k miles, 2 new batteries and an alternator because none of the glove box or trunk lights would turn off at first, and a new ecu for unknown reasons the dealership didn't specify before lemon lawing the vehicle. Last dodge I owned need new engine due to oil starvation on cyl 5 and spinning a bearing at 62k miles, the trans for the torque converter over heating at 73k, clutch got stuck. My sister's brand new wrangler oscar Mike edition lost a fender flare driving on the highway and had a cel on when she sold it at 18k miles. Family had a journey that was the most reliable and was traded in when the trans started slipping at ~87k miles. I speak from experience on multiple cars they have no qc.
@@jmoore112344 Mine haven't rattled apart....🤷🏼♂️