1983 Brabham BT52 driven hard shooting huge flames (2013 nürburgring demo)

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  • Опубликовано: 20 апр 2014
  • engine: 1499cc / 91.5 cu in. KKK Turbo BMW M 12/13 Straight 4
    power: 640 bhp / 477 KW @ 9500 rpm
    torque: 450 Nm / 332 ft lbs @ 8500 rpm
    weight: 540 kilo / 1190.5 lbs
    1983 F1 champion with Nélson Piquet.
    Driven flat-out by Marc Surer in this video.
    event: Oldtimer GP www.avd.de/ogpracing/home.html
    location: Nürburgring, Germany
    date: 10th and 11th august 2013
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Комментарии • 150

  • @elwingy
    @elwingy 7 лет назад +146

    One of the most beautiful F1 cars ever...

  • @yeetusdeletus9
    @yeetusdeletus9 8 лет назад +173

    That car just looks so clean and simple compared to today's cars

    • @TheCameltotem
      @TheCameltotem 7 лет назад +7

      You make it sound like it's a good thing

    • @yeetusdeletus9
      @yeetusdeletus9 7 лет назад +31

      FA it is a good thing

    • @JulesD92
      @JulesD92 7 лет назад +1

      Angelo Basso it isnt

    • @VineetKumar-js1do
      @VineetKumar-js1do 6 лет назад +1

      Today F1 cars are more aerodynamic compared to cars back in 90's & that's why they look so complex.

    • @flakey7832
      @flakey7832 5 лет назад +9

      @@VineetKumar-js1do that's exactly why they're better imo, simple and clean

  • @Bastian_Zugnappen33
    @Bastian_Zugnappen33 2 года назад +22

    The first turbo car world champion in F1!
    An iconic line (Gordon Murray), an exceptional driver (Nelson) and a fantastic (4-cylinder) engine (BMW).
    I have the book of the season, what good memories😍

  • @chicobicalho5621
    @chicobicalho5621 5 лет назад +16

    This is so great, I mean seeing the car being driven fast and hard. So often we see historical race cars putzing around in second gear, and this is not what they were built for. And what a friggin' handsome car Gordon Murray designed on that drawing board of his. Many people don't realize this car was conceived on paper, pencil and ruler, no computers at all were used!

    • @GECKOZFTW
      @GECKOZFTW 5 лет назад +4

      What I find impressive is how nice it sounds for a 4 cylinder with a turbo. If F1 transitioned to 4 cylinders with turbos and they sounded like this, I wouldn't mind.

  • @mp40fan
    @mp40fan 7 лет назад +23

    Spitting flames out of the exhaust is just the peak of inefficiency. I like it :D

    • @Lanse1984
      @Lanse1984 2 года назад +4

      Have you seen the size of the fuel pump on those? Lol. When I saw the engine assembly. It reminded me of a common rail fuel pump on modern diesel truck engines. I was like wtf.... lol

    • @mp40fan
      @mp40fan 2 года назад

      @@Lanse1984 Yeah, it's great isn't it!

    • @Lanse1984
      @Lanse1984 2 года назад

      @@mp40fan yeah smiles per gallon

    • @clockdva20
      @clockdva20 2 года назад +3

      Back in the days were they used fuel to keep things cooled down , Turbo F1 ,Group C , Group B , DRM all gave us crazy cars with little regards for budgets and rules. Spectacular all the way .

  • @L1am867
    @L1am867 4 года назад +37

    Would of loved to have seen these things for real in qualifying

  • @josedacunhafilho
    @josedacunhafilho 4 года назад +21

    100% designed on pen and paper by Gordon Murray on a whim and his gut feeling. The guy was a genius, for this car was not only beautiful, but fast. It ot weren't for the BMW engine breaking down so much in 1984, Piquet would have likely won the championship as well with the 53, for that year he made 9 poles, and the only two races he won (Montreal and Detroit) he won from the flag.

    • @atishaykankaria4461
      @atishaykankaria4461 7 месяцев назад

      This car was designed 6 weeks before the season started because of the ground effect ban being introduced just before the season started

  • @charmin9dim
    @charmin9dim 7 лет назад +28

    this car is SO beautiful

  • @renatopires9363
    @renatopires9363 3 года назад +5

    Real cars for real mans! No automatic shifts, big wheels, high power, bordering on insanity but, real competition, where the drivers was an constructors, engineers and resolve the races with the pure talent.

  • @Inazuma68
    @Inazuma68 3 года назад +3

    Marc Surer behind the wheel.
    Always was a big fan of Nelson Piquet and Brabham. Gordon Murray created such beautiful cars and the white and blue parmalat livery looked stunning,

  • @brunocopetti2948
    @brunocopetti2948 9 лет назад +73

    1.5 Liters and capable of almost 1500 HP

    • @ninoschier9528
      @ninoschier9528 8 лет назад +11

      Yes! Almost 1hp per ccm

    • @singleturbosupra7951
      @singleturbosupra7951 8 лет назад +16

      +Bruno Copetti Only in quali trim. The engine only lasted couple laps with that power

    • @singleturbosupra7951
      @singleturbosupra7951 8 лет назад +7

      Gwyn Bleidd And tires as well. Basically at least half of the car used in quali was completely different compared to the one used in race

    • @ulysse21
      @ulysse21 7 лет назад +4

      Not the one mounted on that BT52 though, but most likely the last ones, powering the BT54 and 55, in qualies version of course. I'd say around 1400 on maximum pressure

    • @ninoschier9528
      @ninoschier9528 7 лет назад +5

      L'homme Fait Con
      The Benetton was as far as I know a bit more powerful than the Brabham because of the Brabham motor position.
      But thats quite irrelevant. Its like comparing the power of Nukes because you want to demolish your house

  • @silvioferreiracamelo886
    @silvioferreiracamelo886 4 года назад +58

    This car is the mirror of the greatest driver of the 80'S F1. Nelson Piquet, great pilot, mechanic, car maker !

    • @lucianoozorio7763
      @lucianoozorio7763 2 года назад

      ruclips.net/video/H53JTsalrGA/видео.html

    • @9phoenix191
      @9phoenix191 3 месяца назад

      Senna é tri campeão com quase o triplo de poles positions, pódios e vitórias com 46 grandes prêmios disputados a menos que o Piquet, nunca perdeu um campeonato com carro superior ao do rival, como o Piquet fez a proeza de perder em 86 com o melhor carro do grid para o Prost, em 1983 venceu usando combustível ilegal a base de nitrometano, e só não ganhou os dois campeonatos de construtores em 81 e 83 porque seus companheiros de equipe eram muito fracos e não somavam pontos, Hector Zunino em 81 e Patrese que quebrava muito o carro em 1983.

  • @sukramrefohlgan1986
    @sukramrefohlgan1986 6 лет назад +19

    So klein und zierlich und so eine Power aus 1,5 l und der Sound ist weit besser als der F1 Autos von 2018

  • @pvtnewb
    @pvtnewb 4 года назад +8

    The craziest 4 banger

  • @hkdxforsaken
    @hkdxforsaken 2 года назад +2

    Looks like a broad tip arrow. So beautiful

  • @RENATOOLIVEIRA-fw1ud
    @RENATOOLIVEIRA-fw1ud 3 года назад +2

    Great Nelson Piquet , great Champion

  • @maxnaser7756
    @maxnaser7756 4 года назад +2

    I love this car. My big cousin developed the engine in the BMW F1 team. He built a great engine and a really monster

  • @mikaelbihl-matias9462
    @mikaelbihl-matias9462 Год назад +1

    Most beautiful single seater ever made

  • @10mm
    @10mm 3 года назад +4

    The BMW M10 really led a remarkable life

  • @Peter-Oxley-Modelling-Lab
    @Peter-Oxley-Modelling-Lab 6 месяцев назад

    Boy does it move rapidly! 😨 They certainly have the right man at the wheel. 👍🏻

  • @pauloluciomachadodebrito8107
    @pauloluciomachadodebrito8107 5 лет назад +3

    This car is unbelievable

  • @tomtom7543
    @tomtom7543 Год назад +1

    My favourite f1 car 😍

  • @franneck1989
    @franneck1989 9 лет назад +14

    Awesome look, awesome sound!

  • @andresil8330
    @andresil8330 3 года назад +11

    Nelson Piquet developed this beauty with Gordon. Interesting that he doesn’t get the recognition for the genius that he was. Not only a great driver but also a superb mechanic that took care of his own cars.

  • @jeffmotsinger8203
    @jeffmotsinger8203 7 лет назад +2

    Yeah, Marc Surer!

  • @Alexandre-ok8ss
    @Alexandre-ok8ss 4 года назад +6

    That car is incredible. But,who was driving it? Miss Piquet very much, my greatest driver ever

  • @KN-lq4zv
    @KN-lq4zv 3 года назад +2

    Listening to a Gordon Murray interview they used a bmw production car block too. Incredible performance. Mind you 1500hp did only last for qualifying

  • @GersonBruhns
    @GersonBruhns 7 лет назад +7

    Who was the pilot (lucky guy) on the day of the test?
    Um dos carros mais lindos ( e potentes ) de todos os tempos da F1 - _a Flexa_.
    Com ele o nosso grande Nélson Piquet foi bicampeão mundial. Inesquecível.
    [One of the most beautiful (and powerful) cars of all time on F1 - _The Arrow_.
    With him our great Nélson Piquet was twice world champion. Unforgettable.]

  • @Spudchucker92
    @Spudchucker92 4 года назад +3

    A nearly 40 year old car that looks and sounds better than the garbage that passes as F1 today. What a machine.

  • @treatb09
    @treatb09 7 лет назад +44

    we need a vintage f1 simulator for ps and xbox.

    • @joaofellipesoares9715
      @joaofellipesoares9715 5 лет назад

      But the new F1 for PS4 and Xbox one has vintage cars to play.

    • @GECKOZFTW
      @GECKOZFTW 5 лет назад +1

      On PC you can download mods for games like rFactor to play with old F1 cars and race at old F1 tracks.

    • @GF-mf7ml
      @GF-mf7ml 3 года назад

      80s turbo era hell a lot of fun!

  • @FlavioSpirit
    @FlavioSpirit 3 года назад +4

    Boa noite meu Amigo !!!!
    Com essa Máquina fantástica que nosso Grande Campeão Nelson Piquet ganhou o seu segundo título Mundial.
    Época maravilhosa da Fórmula 1.
    Só saudades......
    Muito obrigado pelo vídeo e parabéns pelo canal.
    Abraço do Brasil.......

  • @AppleLauda_destroyer99942
    @AppleLauda_destroyer99942 3 года назад +3

    1980's sound ❤️❤️❤️❤️

  • @luthfiadhityanto
    @luthfiadhityanto 5 лет назад +2

    Fever still got me...that's why i kept on imagining someone put the BT52's M12/13 engine into BMW I8 with some crazy aero and drive it on the Pike's Peak...🤒🤒🤒

    • @nashidaperv2351
      @nashidaperv2351 3 года назад

      Interesting.. it would definitely sound much better

  • @jraybay
    @jraybay 6 лет назад +2

    Very cool!

  • @chunder27
    @chunder27 3 года назад +1

    It just SOUNDS like power

  • @johnjones928
    @johnjones928 Год назад

    The engine was developed from BMW's F2 2.0 liter, it originated from their road cars. Initially they were built from used blocks that had at least 80k km on them, later BMW aged new blocks in the race shops before building the engines.

  • @ferreiraslva.gabriel
    @ferreiraslva.gabriel 5 лет назад +2

    The Brabham of Nelson Piquet and Gordon Murray.

    • @ShmuelWeintraub
      @ShmuelWeintraub 5 лет назад +2

      And Bernie Ecclestone and Teo/Corrado Fabi also. Lots of people involved in the history of this car.

    • @blitsopel6485
      @blitsopel6485 5 лет назад +2

      @@ShmuelWeintraub how about dipl ing Paul Rosche of bmw company. Made this engine great and put it first in bmw 2002 turbo road car. 60's. developping in small steps during lot of years to get ready and put it in brabham with hudge turbo and many blow-ups.

  • @williamaquino2745
    @williamaquino2745 6 лет назад +1

    Parece que quanto mais passa o tempo os motores fica mais nervosos , olha esses fogos seloko

  • @JAVTROOPER
    @JAVTROOPER 4 года назад +2

    Save lots of weight, high power engine, hell yeah

  • @hans-jurgenstockem6719
    @hans-jurgenstockem6719 3 года назад

    Piquét- BMW POWER❣️

  • @cbrcruz9003
    @cbrcruz9003 7 лет назад +6

    They should bring back chassis and engines like that (also, no fucking halo!) so that way f1 would not lose fans to indycar, dtm, wtcc, wec, etc.

    • @JulesD92
      @JulesD92 6 лет назад

      Cbr Cruz And people die again eh..

    • @DeoVindice_61-65
      @DeoVindice_61-65 6 лет назад +2

      Julian Duepre Deaths are not very common in F1 now. The drivers already sit so low down in the car, I don't know what adding the Halo is actually going to protect.

    • @nashidaperv2351
      @nashidaperv2351 3 года назад

      Ik this comment is old but the halo should stay but they need to bring in more teams and get americans interested in it.

  • @MikeZak101
    @MikeZak101 6 лет назад +7

    makes you wonder what F1 would of been like now if the sport was allowed to progress

    • @blitsopel6485
      @blitsopel6485 5 лет назад +1

      @ michael Zak: intimi telling: not drivable for human beings!

  • @bertrandnkurunziza
    @bertrandnkurunziza 2 года назад

    Beauty/beast...

  • @ws.safluk2325
    @ws.safluk2325 Год назад

    Best i4 sounds!!!!!

  • @RacingMiku16
    @RacingMiku16 9 лет назад +2

    oh look at that backfire

  • @emufriedchicken
    @emufriedchicken 3 года назад +2

    Great engine...even more amazing is the employees at BMW used to piss on the blocks to artificially age them before building them. They reckon a block that had 100,000kms was optimal for a F1 engine build

  • @thelemonadeboy
    @thelemonadeboy 3 года назад +1

    four cylinders and all that power, german engineering !

    • @massimilianocampana3951
      @massimilianocampana3951 2 года назад

      All F1 of that era were 1.5l and so Powerful. And in 1983 Nelson piquet won the pilot championship with this car,but Ferrari won the championship of constructors.so ......German engineering?

  • @VANDERLAAN489
    @VANDERLAAN489 Год назад

    Monster car!!!!

  • @kopronko
    @kopronko 6 лет назад

    Goooood !!! :-)) But, why didn't you give more Boost 2 it ?? :-)) Thanks 4 the video :-)

  • @thecrazyspm
    @thecrazyspm 5 лет назад +3

    Nelson Piquet car!!!

  • @phantommedia9964
    @phantommedia9964 5 лет назад +4

    Everyone is complaining about V6 F1 cars, but isn't this one "just" an I4 engine?

    • @posniknelb6114
      @posniknelb6114 2 года назад +4

      The old v6 turbos and 4 cylinder turbo's were flying bombs. Small, light, no driver aids and on the limit of, blowing apart at any second. That's what a race engine should be. Not like the muted electrical assisted buses of the current v6 era.

  • @jamesarmstrong5593
    @jamesarmstrong5593 8 лет назад +26

    that's not an f1 car that's a flame thrower

  • @musicstewart9744
    @musicstewart9744 4 года назад +2

    Wonder if the belching fire is Marc figuring out when to get on an off the gas with a turbo. Mr. Patrese talked at Goodwood about having to get used to that.

    • @Inazuma68
      @Inazuma68 3 года назад

      Surer knows that engine because he has driven the Brabham for a few races and of course the Arrows BMW some seasons

  • @MikeGoesBadaBoom
    @MikeGoesBadaBoom 4 года назад

    BMW ftw

  • @user-ex5wi8fz6u
    @user-ex5wi8fz6u 7 лет назад

    good

  • @alainbelanger752
    @alainbelanger752 3 года назад +2

    BT 52 will always Look Fast

  • @intheclarts
    @intheclarts 4 года назад +4

    Not really complete without the tennis ball helmet is it !? :)

  • @davissi
    @davissi 2 года назад +1

    The flames come in-between gear changes.

  • @jspoons6619
    @jspoons6619 8 лет назад +7

    Its was said that the BMW Turbo engine was the most powerful ever from that era , at the time they did not have dyno that could measure the full out put so 1500 at max boost was only a rough idea , I would imagine these days they own a better dyno. They did have a bad history of blowing up the BT52 was the only BMW powered car to win the F1 drivers Championship. during one test at the Paul Ricard circuit in France, the team suffered nine engine blowups. Think only a hand full of team went down the in line 4 cylinder turbo engine root most played safe with the stronger V6 layout . Still its nice bit of History that can still be seen running today.

    • @s325ibmw3
      @s325ibmw3 7 лет назад +2

      SpoonHam max boost was around 40 to 60 psi that record is never beatan 6 bars of boost imagine that on a old M10 engine from the 70s Family car engine it was so freakin fast nobody could keep up with it and when bosch made the ecu turbo controler boost controler nobody could catch up with it

    • @marguskiis7711
      @marguskiis7711 6 лет назад

      It is a urban myth.

    • @DTFilmProductions
      @DTFilmProductions 6 лет назад +4

      The reality is that it was 1,350bhp at 5.3 bar boost but only for Qualifying in 1986 those special engines would only last 4-5 laps before blowing up. Race was a different engine and that was 850-900bhp at 4.0 bar actually less than it's rivals which were 950-1000bhp in race trim.

    • @blitsopel6485
      @blitsopel6485 5 лет назад

      Nelson Piquet: very first f1 champ and last champ with turbo power. Son jnr first champ ever in electric (f1) car.

    • @GECKOZFTW
      @GECKOZFTW 5 лет назад +1

      @@blitsopel6485 what do you mean last champ with turbo power? Turbos are back in F1 since 2014

  • @jeffmotsinger8203
    @jeffmotsinger8203 7 лет назад

    Brands Hatch, 1985....oh so close to a F1 victory.

  • @dolphinsattack
    @dolphinsattack 7 лет назад +1

    Are the rear tires on this 1983 Brabham BT52 the same size as the rear tires on today's F1 cars of 2017? I know as of 2017 F1 increased the rear tires but are they as wide as they were in 1983? The rear tires for 2017 F1 cars are 405mm. I read that in the 1980's the rear tires were 18" inches wide. Not sure how that measures out in mm.

    • @Belgian-Motorsport
      @Belgian-Motorsport  7 лет назад

      I found these measurments for the BT52 tires.
      Front 23/62 - 13" Rear 40/66 x 13".
      I'm not sure how to convert this to roadtire measurements.

    • @dolphinsattack
      @dolphinsattack 7 лет назад

      I just found this out about 2017 F1's rear tire size... Rear - 405/670-13...
      www.roadandtrack.com/motorsports/news/a30691/2017-f1-tires/

    • @blitsopel6485
      @blitsopel6485 5 лет назад

      @@Belgian-Motorsport non info when you simply don't know.

  • @vwg9325
    @vwg9325 4 года назад

    🌟🏁👍

  • @geleia6605
    @geleia6605 4 года назад +4

    Dificultie
    Very easy
    Easy
    Medium
    Hard
    Very hard
    Nelson Piquet

  • @tharazero1686
    @tharazero1686 7 лет назад +3

    Imagine if everyone drove flat out in their classic Grand Prix cars

    • @gio2812872
      @gio2812872 7 лет назад +3

      Tharazero1 they have to rebuild the engine anyway

    • @tharazero1686
      @tharazero1686 7 лет назад +1

      +gio2812872 but people would never let other drivers drive their cars flat out. What happens if they crash it. And the reasons i think it Is being driven flat out 1. It has been restored by ex brabham mechanics and 2. It is being driven by Marc Suer who originally drove bmw powered f1 cars

  • @Kawanudel
    @Kawanudel 7 лет назад +5

    das waren autos und nicht diese spielzeugdinger von heute.

  • @vk3hsc655
    @vk3hsc655 3 года назад

    from the era when you needed giant testicles to drive in F1 - stick the qualifying version of this engine in .....

  • @martindenckermann9624
    @martindenckermann9624 Год назад

    1283 CV (HP) 😱

  • @mlschaap
    @mlschaap 3 года назад

    Another inline 4 from BMW ruclips.net/video/iZGdERu5y_8/видео.html

  • @drizzle_drizzzle
    @drizzle_drizzzle 8 месяцев назад +1

    I hope F1 will switch from V6 to I4... it sounds way better

    • @mikaelbihl-matias9462
      @mikaelbihl-matias9462 7 месяцев назад

      They should allow more engine configurations now that f1's run on ethanol.

  • @turboslag
    @turboslag 7 лет назад +5

    And this will be nowhere near even race power of the time the car was competing! It won't be using the special fuel they had then, and the boost will be way less than maximum.

    • @turboslag
      @turboslag 7 лет назад

      I did say maximum boost for race power, or in other words, full race boost.

  • @krispewkrem3
    @krispewkrem3 3 года назад

    And to think that engine was pulled from a E30

  • @MitchRichard65
    @MitchRichard65 7 лет назад +3

    so much fuel is consumed for engine cooling

    • @evolpe46
      @evolpe46 6 лет назад

      the flames are caused by Anti Lag System

    • @Stratahoovius
      @Stratahoovius 6 лет назад +3

      Extra fuel gets thrown into the engine to cool the pistons, that's what the black smoke coming out of the back is.

  • @fernandos.kawano6689
    @fernandos.kawano6689 3 года назад

    1500 HP?

    • @skyshifter5796
      @skyshifter5796 7 месяцев назад +1

      No, that was in quali in 1986. This one had 650-750.

  • @stewarthumphreys8960
    @stewarthumphreys8960 Год назад

    Im miss the big popping flames out of the back of the old F1's..
    More manly if you ask me.. pop bang.. now get out and walk you pesky flame ;)

  • @schaltgetriebe6726
    @schaltgetriebe6726 3 года назад +2

    Bmw has the most powerful turbo f1 in history and the highest revving v10 engine in history and the most powerful Natural aspiredet engine in history.
    BMW is King for engine

    • @massimilianocampana3951
      @massimilianocampana3951 2 года назад

      But inv1983 constructor championship was won by Ferrari.......bla bla bla

  • @pepezafrog7732
    @pepezafrog7732 3 года назад +1

    Kinda sounds like a superbike

  • @joaofellipesoares9715
    @joaofellipesoares9715 5 лет назад +1

    if painting in black will look like the batmobile.

  • @AccordGTR
    @AccordGTR 6 лет назад +1

    so short and small compared to modern F1

    • @skyshifter5796
      @skyshifter5796 7 месяцев назад

      It's actually 15 cm wider than today.

  • @brixomatic
    @brixomatic 4 года назад

    Just what F1 could sound like today, if it hadn't been V6s for Ferrari. So gorgeous!

  • @pedrojuliantorresmaguina3589
    @pedrojuliantorresmaguina3589 3 года назад

    pobre turbo, por eso se morian rapido.

  • @ErikGPL
    @ErikGPL 7 лет назад

    It's cool because we know it's so powerful, but I find the looks and the sound of this car rather boring.

    • @ferrarikingdom
      @ferrarikingdom 6 лет назад +1

      Erik2Ammo that's because being driven these days you don't get to hear the sudden lag become a massive expulsion of power at full throttle mid corner exit and spins the tires. watch Gerhard Berger qualifying with it in 1986 extremly thrilling

  • @edwardrichardson8254
    @edwardrichardson8254 2 года назад

    Ugliest cars of the modern era. They banned ground effects for this season, no Venturi tunnels, why you see virtually no sidepods save those little ones at the back for the radiators. Form should follow function and these things are upside down planes. When you go see them race for the first time your mind cannot comprehend the speeds in the corners, it's like you literally can't believe your eyes, you think the drivers must be suicidal. It's the downforce. That season's cars tho... they were just skateboards w/ a wing. That car is legendary because of the 4cyl turbocharged BMW M12 engine. Obviously running too rich here or it's on a rev limiter for the demonstration.