2nd Detailed look at Kone PowerDisc

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Комментарии • 41

  • @FinnishElevators
    @FinnishElevators Год назад +7

    Finland built a lot of aparment blocks with 3 or 4 person lifts. Basically every apartment block built before the other half of 90's has a very small lift shaft, so Kone MaxiSpaces (PowerDiscs) and NanoSpaces (with a EcoReel motor) are very common.

  • @What_The_Fuck_Did_I_Just_Watch
    @What_The_Fuck_Did_I_Just_Watch Год назад +8

    finally the mystery of the PowerDisc got solved! 💪👍😜

  • @LeoPlaysMCElevators
    @LeoPlaysMCElevators 2 месяца назад +1

    There are two variants of KONE PowerDisc motor, the GMX1 and the GMX2. The GMX1 has that weird looking gray metal skin that you most commonly see on a PowerDisc and they can be in a Motor Room or without. The GMX2 is smaller than the GMX1 but they operate similarly and the GMX2 exposes the magnetic disc but the GMX2 can only be used in a Motor Room.

  • @liftpark
    @liftpark 6 месяцев назад +2

    In Estonia I have found 2 buildings with KONE NanoSpaces. Also made a video

  • @hariranormal5584
    @hariranormal5584 Год назад +2

    It looks very mechanically interesting. I have no clue how it's set up, but hey, still is cool!

  • @BenDeSwert666
    @BenDeSwert666 Год назад +4

    Ugh... MaxiSpace... I have bad memories replacing the ropes on these abominations...

    • @benolifts
      @benolifts  Год назад +3

      What has happened when replacing the cables. Must take a long time because of all the wheels on the 10:1 on both the suspended lift and the under wrap

    • @BenDeSwert666
      @BenDeSwert666 Год назад +5

      It's a very specific procedure. You have to hang the car with its roof on the top floor. Each rope has 6 strands. You have to separate those strands for about 30cm and cut 3 of them. You do the same with the new ropes, and weave them into each other. Then release the brakes on the motor, and you pull the new ropes with the old, all at the same time. It's a very intensive job. It took 3 of us, 3 whole days to do it for an 8 stop.
      These ropes are extremely tough, but also fragile when misused. They usually get damaged when inspection tests the overspeed governor, and the rope slacks in the shaft. When they try to re tension them, they can get snagged on stuff in the shaft. when that happens they get damaged and need to be replaced.
      Water damage is also a culprit. In this case, a whole lot of the pulleys need to be replaced too, and since there's 1 bundle that goes from the pit all the wah up to the motor, with a bit of bad luck your motor needs to be replaced too, as the ropes take the water with them damaging the motor..
      It's a great product, on paper... In reality: extremely fragile.@@benolifts

  • @QuarioQuario54321
    @QuarioQuario54321 Год назад +3

    In marketing this model is known as MaxiSpace

    • @benolifts
      @benolifts  Год назад +7

      I can't stand Kone's weird "space" names. While the powerdisc/maxispace is a model of its own right, I would argue the monospace, monogoods, transys and minispace are not actually different models. They are just lift packages of different configurations of the same equipment.

    • @QuarioQuario54321
      @QuarioQuario54321 Год назад +1

      @@benoliftsIn the US meanwhile they only have Monospace and Minispace and the main difference there is that monospace is MRL while minispace is a normal traction. Powerdisc was seemingly never made in the US. There's also apparently a smaller 6:1 powerdisc.

    • @DJSpinSter2004
      @DJSpinSter2004 11 месяцев назад

      @@QuarioQuario54321 The US also has the Ecospace, literally just a Monospace that runs at 150FPM (or I believe 200) at most.

  • @SejLifts
    @SejLifts Год назад +2

    I've still yet to find a PowerDisc for myself

  • @munshi_man9736
    @munshi_man9736 Год назад +3

    i miss the wheelie bin is hungry series :(

  • @hungrynapps
    @hungrynapps 5 месяцев назад

    This looks like an installation nightmare lol

  • @wyattfairburn2663
    @wyattfairburn2663 Год назад +1

    Thats such a weird Setup for a PowerDisc Comparing to a ecodisc (Keep up the great work)

  • @Andrewjg_89
    @Andrewjg_89 Год назад +1

    I do think that Kone Powerdisc in most lifts are reliable and are kind of easy to replace I think if a lift breaks down. Or is it difficult to replace these disks if a lift is out of action.

    • @ukraineball953
      @ukraineball953 9 месяцев назад

      So this means in theory the power disc could do 5m/s using a counterweight in 2 to 1?

  • @joelpaulin6904
    @joelpaulin6904 Год назад +3

    En France Maxi space KDL 16 R GMX

  • @hotmixer2010
    @hotmixer2010 Год назад +2

    Hard to find powerdisc lifts

  • @andrewthompsonuk1
    @andrewthompsonuk1 Год назад +3

    So there is no counter ballance weight?

    • @benolifts
      @benolifts  Год назад +4

      It is counterweightless

    • @andrewthompsonuk1
      @andrewthompsonuk1 Год назад +1

      @@benolifts does it use regenerative braking when going down?

    • @benolifts
      @benolifts  Год назад +3

      @@andrewthompsonuk1 It would be using kinetic motor braking. All VF drives use the motor as if it is a generator and suck electricity out of it when slowing the motor down, as it would be wasteful to use electricity to slow it down. But it only counts as regenerative braking if the generated electricity is stored somewhere or put back into the grid, which doesn't normally happen with lifts.

    • @andrewthompsonuk1
      @andrewthompsonuk1 Год назад +2

      @@benolifts so that explains all the cooling for fins on the motor, the excess engery when going down must end up in the motor?

    • @benolifts
      @benolifts  Год назад +3

      Thats not due to the motor braking. Braking energy ends up in the VF's dissipation resistor as heat. The motor is built like that because it is 10:1. The lift goes 0.66 m/s, so the motor is going 6.6m/s. It has very fast moving parts.

  • @justintrines4522
    @justintrines4522 Год назад +2

    can gif me a top 10 Kone best elevators?

  • @windowsxpnt2347
    @windowsxpnt2347 Год назад +3

    hey austin this is guys

  • @justintrines4522
    @justintrines4522 Год назад

    What is the best version Kone elevator with safety, Cromford and easy to repair?

    • @benolifts
      @benolifts  Год назад +2

      I am not sure what you mean by this. "Safety" can refer to the safety gear, safety circuit, or just whether the lift is safe in general. So I am not sure what you are referring to.
      As for easy to repair, get a LCE and not KCE. KCE is too new and has proprietary restrictions and the OS is bloated compared to LCE. LCE has been around a long time and loads of Chinese companies have work arounds for the proprietary restrictions. And the interface is very easy to use on LCE once you understand it.
      I recommend buying any of the following
      NMX11 with LCE
      (N)MX14 with LCE
      MX20 with LCE
      All of these are sold as "monospace" packages. Look at the techincle broachers on Kone's website and see what equipment you get in each monospace package. Avoid the NMX07 as it is too cheap compared to the others. You will probably have to specifically ask Kone for it to come with LCE instead of KCE.

    • @justintrines4522
      @justintrines4522 Год назад +1

      @@benolifts what i mean in terms safety circuit and micro electronics

    • @benolifts
      @benolifts  11 месяцев назад +2

      @@justintrines4522 The safety circuit is the same across all Kone lifts. Although the later LCE with easy bypass switches is very good and removes the risk of human error as the engineer no longer has to use bypass loops.

    • @justintrines4522
      @justintrines4522 11 месяцев назад

      Thanks.

  • @nelsonahlvik6650
    @nelsonahlvik6650 Год назад +1

    Second

  • @asetatlikalem
    @asetatlikalem Год назад +1

    Does that lift have a chasis or am i seeing wrong

    • @benolifts
      @benolifts  Год назад +2

      It has a small chassis. Although bigger top chassis than the MX06

  • @mattheww3116
    @mattheww3116 24 дня назад

    Just put in a roped hydraulic

    • @benolifts
      @benolifts  24 дня назад

      Almost nowhere installs hydraulics anymore. Also a roped hydraulic takes up more space, meaning the lift car would be even smaller