Thanks Ben for the video, I really enjoy videos like these where they really go in depth on the inner workings of parts of the lifts that you don't normally see as well as what the codes on those displays actually mean.
On the 2nd lift, that's what happened to an otis 2000vf I know of, it would drive on manual mode and then when I put it on auto it kept emergency stopping. Most likely is a vf drive issue since that what happened on the otis lift. 1st lift probably is a shaft door issue.
Ok some advice..that lift with the 16. Errors ..doesn't need a new drive ..notice how many error 21 U have ..that is safety..which can be triggered if a shaft door is open also. And it can trigger 108..when the lift resets . Now the 170 errors could be someone resetting the power ..or supply power to the building being switched off often
It's also the name for the "cop in the cab" in lorries. It's a disc that records data and must be handed in to the authorities every day. Basically it makes sure that the driver doesn't break the rules, especially the one about taking rest stops so that we don't have sleepy truckers barreling down the M1. A pain, but a necessary one. (stands for Tachometer)
You should really apply to be a qualified lift engineer. You'll make lots of £££, won't risk getting in trouble with the law, and the company will definitely hire you with just a bit of training considering your knowledge with lifts.
It is best to not mix hobbies and work. Plus I dislike the modern day lift industry. Most of it is about making money by selling cheap lifts and encouraging building owners to do unnecessary replacements rather than putting in the effort to keep old lifts going. Lifts are installed on the cheap and maintenance is over charged (many lift companies even admit to this practice), then the is the bait and switch practice of pressuring owners to have a shiny new lift, just for then to be told less than 10 years later that the lift is crap and need a new one. It also seems that the amount of engineers that understand relay logic to anything other than the most basic of systems is getting very rare, and it is only a couple of the older engineers that have been there a very long time who are skilled at it. New engineers are not trained in this subject. In 10 years time I can't see anyone being able to maintain one apart from a simple 1 call at a time single speed lift where the workings of it are so easy that an ordinary care taker could maintain it themselves. In fact, most of the last remaining relay lifts left are only kept due to the owner or caretaker having a personal love of the old lift. At present there is only a couple of DC generator multi speed relay lifts in existence, and only a couple of combined sets of relay lifts in existence. This is due to these two systems being complex and it is not obvious how to fix relay faults when they occur. Only an engineer with many years of experience can diagnose these. And every one of these complex lifts that I know of has at least one bug with it that has not been resolved in years. I can see these lifts becoming extinct within 10 years. And as for handful of caretakers who personally like their relay lift, these are usually old people. At an express lift in a small scale independent office building in Croydon, one time when I visited it a plaque appeared next to it saying that the caretaker had died, and it kind of mentioned that the caretaker had liked the old lift. Then just a couple of years later the lift was replaced. So people were willing to put up a plaque in his memory, but were not willing to keep the lift working in his memory, despite Express being the easiest relay lift to maintain. This sums up what attitudes towards lifts are like. I have no interest in being involved in the lift industry for a job. Plus lift engineers are censored and can't publicly express their opinions as that would risk loosing their job. Actually quite a few of the older lift engineers have openly admitted to me in private conversations that the new lifts they are installing are utter rubbish, although many other engineers are happy with the state of the industry as they have no pride and see it purely as a money making scheme.
@@benoliftsmy only complaints as a lift technician is..the info is becoming more widespread now...ten yrs ago.u couldn't find a elevator tutorial vid.. newer lifts are easier to trouble shoot..but more expensive to repair... because the parts are more replaceable than repairable.. and what makes it worse.in my country they send one tech to.work on a job and charge for two .. corporate greed
Good on you for leaving the lifts as you found them, without disrupting any repair work
Thanks Ben for the video, I really enjoy videos like these where they really go in depth on the inner workings of parts of the lifts that you don't normally see as well as what the codes on those displays actually mean.
On the 2nd lift, that's what happened to an otis 2000vf I know of, it would drive on manual mode and then when I put it on auto it kept emergency stopping. Most likely is a vf drive issue since that what happened on the otis lift. 1st lift probably is a shaft door issue.
Ben I love the detailed look videos. Keep them coming !! 👍🏻
I like how it shows 'HELLO' on switch on. I wasn't expecting that. Yep, there's something seriously wrong with that one.
gone to one of them and it sounded like first year of installation! sounds like new! probably the brakes are very loud...
Very good detail of the how to fix and solve Ecodisc lifts.
the loose plug goes in the connector on top of the big PCB. its used to test the overspeed governor.
What does the floor dot mean on the Ecodisc?
The Otis Gen2 at my work has broken down for the last 4 days. OTIS engineer has been in and out. I wonder whats up with it.
Ok some advice..that lift with the 16. Errors ..doesn't need a new drive ..notice how many error 21 U have ..that is safety..which can be triggered if a shaft door is open also. And it can trigger 108..when the lift resets . Now the 170 errors could be someone resetting the power ..or supply power to the building being switched off often
What is a tacho please
Tachos are devices that monitor the speed of the lift motor. They are needed for the VF drive to operate, normally.
It's also the name for the "cop in the cab" in lorries.
It's a disc that records data and must be handed in to the authorities every day. Basically it makes sure that the driver doesn't break the rules, especially the one about taking rest stops so that we don't have sleepy truckers barreling down the M1.
A pain, but a necessary one.
(stands for Tachometer)
@@JP_TaVeryMuch thank you
@@felixrwc816 thank you
Did you get past the maintenance lockout on the LCE (where it blocks almost all menus), or was that not necessary?
Bang itu lift nya problem apa maaf saya tidak bisa bahasa inggris
Is your friend a lift engineer
Nope
Is it just me, but the pulsing frequency of the V3F drive sounded odd normally is sounds like deeeee but that sounded like deeedeeeedeeed.(herkuli)
Academy lifts ruined those ecodiscs!
Hey Austin this is guys
Hey guys Austin is fixing the lift
Hey guys, Austin has a broken lift that needs fixing.
You should really apply to be a qualified lift engineer. You'll make lots of £££, won't risk getting in trouble with the law, and the company will definitely hire you with just a bit of training considering your knowledge with lifts.
It is best to not mix hobbies and work. Plus I dislike the modern day lift industry. Most of it is about making money by selling cheap lifts and encouraging building owners to do unnecessary replacements rather than putting in the effort to keep old lifts going. Lifts are installed on the cheap and maintenance is over charged (many lift companies even admit to this practice), then the is the bait and switch practice of pressuring owners to have a shiny new lift, just for then to be told less than 10 years later that the lift is crap and need a new one. It also seems that the amount of engineers that understand relay logic to anything other than the most basic of systems is getting very rare, and it is only a couple of the older engineers that have been there a very long time who are skilled at it. New engineers are not trained in this subject. In 10 years time I can't see anyone being able to maintain one apart from a simple 1 call at a time single speed lift where the workings of it are so easy that an ordinary care taker could maintain it themselves. In fact, most of the last remaining relay lifts left are only kept due to the owner or caretaker having a personal love of the old lift. At present there is only a couple of DC generator multi speed relay lifts in existence, and only a couple of combined sets of relay lifts in existence. This is due to these two systems being complex and it is not obvious how to fix relay faults when they occur. Only an engineer with many years of experience can diagnose these. And every one of these complex lifts that I know of has at least one bug with it that has not been resolved in years. I can see these lifts becoming extinct within 10 years. And as for handful of caretakers who personally like their relay lift, these are usually old people. At an express lift in a small scale independent office building in Croydon, one time when I visited it a plaque appeared next to it saying that the caretaker had died, and it kind of mentioned that the caretaker had liked the old lift. Then just a couple of years later the lift was replaced. So people were willing to put up a plaque in his memory, but were not willing to keep the lift working in his memory, despite Express being the easiest relay lift to maintain. This sums up what attitudes towards lifts are like. I have no interest in being involved in the lift industry for a job. Plus lift engineers are censored and can't publicly express their opinions as that would risk loosing their job. Actually quite a few of the older lift engineers have openly admitted to me in private conversations that the new lifts they are installing are utter rubbish, although many other engineers are happy with the state of the industry as they have no pride and see it purely as a money making scheme.
@@benoliftsCroydon is so horrible that they would have done that anyway, and I agree with the idea of keeping work and hobbies separate.
@@benoliftsmy only complaints as a lift technician is..the info is becoming more widespread now...ten yrs ago.u couldn't find a elevator tutorial vid.. newer lifts are easier to trouble shoot..but more expensive to repair... because the parts are more replaceable than repairable.. and what makes it worse.in my country they send one tech to.work on a job and charge for two .. corporate greed
Welp. That's what happens when bad companies maintain great lifts!
Disapointed that as a lift expert, you could not fix either of these 😞
Sometimes hardware faults require hardware replacements. In the case of the 2nd lift, he already said that it most likely needs a new VFD.
@@jingarjay8754most of the time ..U would get VFD faults flashing... sometimes the problem can be very simple ..
They deserve to be broken they should just remove the lift and get the best lift company in the world and that is a ORONA
Never heard of them
Ew no. Asian Hyundai elevator is way better than shitty oronas
Fifth
First
National Express
me not 🤪
Stagecoach
Arriva
Otis 2000 VF
first!
Stagecoach
me not 🤪
National Express
Arriva!
Go north east!