Maybe the generic lift company was annoyed by the proprietary lock controller and couldn't jailbreak it. Maybe there aren't competend or not certified on Kone gear? Maybe it's out of warrenty and not supported anymore? (Kind of unlikely though but I've heard Shindler can't be bothered supporting their old gear). I bet it's got something to do with money, building owners want cheap service and Kone/OTIS/Shindler/Mitsubitshi service comes at a more premium price. Personally it's just the same as with cars, as long as you still got the manufacturer's warrenty you better go an official dealer and get genuine parts. But if you got a clunker that's on the brink of M.O.T. failure you go to a cheap chop shop to get you car fixed even if they use no-name parts. Building owners can be pennywise-pound foolish when it comes to lift maintaince and other maintaince things. Facility managers ask for a few quotes and compare prices, the cheapest usually get's the job.
I was thinking it was something like that. The generic company (which I seem to remember is Apex) probably doesn't have much experience with Kone. They probably said that they were unable to work with the lift as the logic is locked (even though there is a hack available online). They probably also told the building owner lies about reliability and they told the building owner that they would be doing mechanical work on the lift which is a complete lie. I had a close look at everything while I was on top. Nothing mechanical about the lift has been touched. They put a leister controls in at the top of the shaft. Removed Kones position system and replaced it with 2D barcode tape, and replaced the LCE repeater board in the cabinet with some leister crap. The building owner most likely doesn't understand much about the pros and cons of different logics and does not know any better than what the lift company says. I am planning on doing a video of unlocking a LCE CPU in the future.
Yeah it’s probably so they can use equipment that they support equipment that they are familiar with as Kone make their equipment very proprietary just so they can make it so only they can maintain the lifts
If the building owner was wanting the mod so the noise created by the lifts would be reduced, then that has gone really badly. The fan for the logic in the shaft is louder than any 3rd gen EcoDisc main logic fan I've ever heard. One of these days you should go back and accidentally put all the generics onto inspection and leave them like that, that'll show the building owner how bad the lifts are, none of the modded ones will be able to run until an engineer puts them into normal. :P
Nathan Parker SUPER GLUE?!?!??! THAT MODERNIZATION IS NOT RESPECTING FOR MANY YEAAARRRSSSSS!!!!! THIS IS NOT REVOLTAGE!!!! THEY MODERNIZED! GET OUT OF HEEEERRREEE!!!!
If you think that's bad, you should try out the lifts at Princess Quay in Hull... Otis lifts that have had their buttons replaced with a part refurb and part awful placing - the buttons on both lifts are screwed in!
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Large chains usually have a regional/national service contract for their lifts etc. This applies even if they rent the building ( I worked in a unit in a shopping centre that had Otis lifts maintained by Kone [although given how bad the company I worked for was I am surprised they did not get Stannah], the other lifts in the centre were maintained by the center themselves. I would have thought that the Premier Inn estates department would know when they are being conned by a supplier and avoid pointless work.
if i owned kone i would make the motor only compatible with kone branded logic so whenever the little lift modernisation people come they would have to replace everything and then the building owner would be like well heck if you have to replace everything then ill just keep the old one.
You should have 'broken' the lift, would have shown the hotel how shit the lifts really are.... I have been in the old ones I know where that is, good thing they haven't modernised the single one around the other side of the building
YES, what I would do is, reprogram one of the generics, destroy another and get every other lift in the building un-modded to be an awesome 2.5m/s EcoDisc again
The Kone Monospaces at my shopping mall were just 10+ years old and Kone decided to mod them with Dewhurst fixtures. Only difference is that they have newer LCE logic and have the same speed before the mod came into place. But this has gone worse than normal, it’s PAINFULLY SLOW and doesn’t feel like a real Kone. Also I do like it before the mods because they feel like Minispaces for 10 floors.
Apart from the lifts now doing slight pre-doors, this is like murder. And they could've easily made the Ecodisc logic do pre'doors as people do that all the time. I don't know what Jackson Lift Group and Premier Inn think they're doing.
Yes cuz about the lift In M&S in Winchester had a Kone M series but they been modernised by Jackson lift group how it is you know it has please mind the doors doors closing how it is Stupid Jackson is very very stupid and Cheap lift and it’s not even interesting to ride it so not good for us to ride it.
Was the reason for the modernization the existing Kone elevators were making too much noise? So they swap out the original logic controller for some "generic" one not compatible with the drive of the Kone system? Yeah, the access panel was a half-a job with a cable just hanging there. Like putting the wrong type of gas in the tank engine knocking. That elevator is very rough in start/stop.
how old are these elevators anyway? If anything the "modernization" made a fully functioning elevator a disaster leaving an expensive repair to get it back into shape.
To be brutally honest, it looks like it gets to your floor in pretty good speed. I’ve never seen a lift that is really fast, so maybe I am just used to the speed of regular elevators.
I don't know why people are in such a rush it's still faster than using the stairs and at the end of the day who gives a crap if it takes 2 seconds more to get from one floor to another. It's also slower and therefore more efficient so hey who knows what the guy that made this video for when he made it. Slower means less energy and more efficiency don't know why he is making such a big deal of nothing I don't think anyone cares if they get to the floor just a tad later.
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Ha hopefully KONE will come and sort them out. KONE has the quality generic doesn’t and it’s as simple as that guys and I’m just hoping KONE will put all of their awesome parts back in.
If a lift takes 10-15 seconds per floor in a building how slow is it? Also the same lift moves vertically when I shift my weight around, idk if it's the floor or the car.
Coding Ethan Probably 0.25 m/s, because most 1 m/s lifts take 5 secs between each floor. If you half that, you have 10 secs and 0.5 m/s. Half it again and you have 15 secs and 0.25 m/s.
Timed the lift today, turns out not as slow as I thought, actual stats, actual figures below. Using the calculations above, must be about 1/ms accelerating slowly. Used stopwatch and pressed lap when the elevator announced 'Going Down', since it does that every floor. 5th to 4th - 10s 4th to 3rd - 5.6s 3rd to 2nd - 5s 2nd to 1st - 5s 1st to ground - 4.5s.
It makes me so angry seeing things like this, it's disgusting where we live in a world where money comes before anything else. Could be maybe to do with the fixtures falling off or breaking? Kone's buttons aren't the most durable, and last time you rode this it was making an awful squealing noise while travelling, do you think they could have used that as an excuse?
The wheels were loud on the right hand lift. That is the non modernized ecodisc that I surfed and the problem had been fixed. Nothing mechanically has been changed with this modernization.
Its an Absolute Position encoder Strip, on the left and right edge you have the Clock Signal, in between there is Data in a custom pattern to determine the position of the Car in the Hoistway.
I absolutely hate this mod like WHY and I don’t think these will last and I hate how slow these elevators are.what they could do to make to money is they saving it for something else.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!!!!!!! THE LIFTS HAVE BEEN MODERNIZED BY A GENERIC LIFT COMPANY!!!!! GWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!! GWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!! GWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i could see why they do it. making a lift an experience, if your only doing two floors you likely to be doing it from the ground giving the idea of more height. if your only doing one floor you are an old lady or a service cart. capitalism = waste
There used to be a nice set of 2 M Series Schindlers at my nearest public pool, T shaped glass ones, recently they were replaced by the shittiest generic ever, it goes 0.5 fucking m/s, it jerks when u start WHAT THE FUCK
BENO IS UPSET OF FILMING THOSE HORRIBLY MODERNIZED ECODISCS!!!!! I DARE YOU!!!!! YOU ARE SO UNFAIR THAT BENO FILMED THOSE MODDED ECODISC!!!!! AND I GAVE EVIL OWL A DETENTION FOR 1 BILLION YEARS!!!!! THAT'S EVIL OWL'S PUNISHMENT!!!!!!!
i like the way he just stits casually on that lift with some bread lunching at 6:20
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Maybe the generic lift company was annoyed by the proprietary lock controller and couldn't jailbreak it. Maybe there aren't competend or not certified on Kone gear? Maybe it's out of warrenty and not supported anymore? (Kind of unlikely though but I've heard Shindler can't be bothered supporting their old gear). I bet it's got something to do with money, building owners want cheap service and Kone/OTIS/Shindler/Mitsubitshi service comes at a more premium price. Personally it's just the same as with cars, as long as you still got the manufacturer's warrenty you better go an official dealer and get genuine parts. But if you got a clunker that's on the brink of M.O.T. failure you go to a cheap chop shop to get you car fixed even if they use no-name parts. Building owners can be pennywise-pound foolish when it comes to lift maintaince and other maintaince things. Facility managers ask for a few quotes and compare prices, the cheapest usually get's the job.
I was thinking it was something like that. The generic company (which I seem to remember is Apex) probably doesn't have much experience with Kone. They probably said that they were unable to work with the lift as the logic is locked (even though there is a hack available online). They probably also told the building owner lies about reliability and they told the building owner that they would be doing mechanical work on the lift which is a complete lie. I had a close look at everything while I was on top. Nothing mechanical about the lift has been touched. They put a leister controls in at the top of the shaft. Removed Kones position system and replaced it with 2D barcode tape, and replaced the LCE repeater board in the cabinet with some leister crap.
The building owner most likely doesn't understand much about the pros and cons of different logics and does not know any better than what the lift company says.
I am planning on doing a video of unlocking a LCE CPU in the future.
Beno CRAP MODERNIZATION!!!?!!?!!!?!??!
Beno Lifts If I was to own a lift I would make sure that no generic came near it :)
This can't Be True!!!!
Yeah it’s probably so they can use equipment that they support equipment that they are familiar with as Kone make their equipment very proprietary just so they can make it so only they can maintain the lifts
If the building owner was wanting the mod so the noise created by the lifts would be reduced, then that has gone really badly. The fan for the logic in the shaft is louder than any 3rd gen EcoDisc main logic fan I've ever heard. One of these days you should go back and accidentally put all the generics onto inspection and leave them like that, that'll show the building owner how bad the lifts are, none of the modded ones will be able to run until an engineer puts them into normal. :P
YOU CANNOT LOSE YOUR JOB!!!!!
Bro what do you mean they're modernization are shit
Get some superglue and glue the logic cabinet shut! Then they can't go in and put the Lester controls in! 😂😂😂
Nathan Parker SUPER GLUE?!?!??! THAT MODERNIZATION IS NOT RESPECTING FOR MANY YEAAARRRSSSSS!!!!! THIS IS NOT REVOLTAGE!!!! THEY MODERNIZED! GET OUT OF HEEEERRREEE!!!!
My thoughts on:
KONE Ecodisc: 😃😃😃😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😎😎
Company that modernized it: 👿👿👿👿👿👿😭😭😭😭😭😤😤
Then they will just use a saw.
Nathan Parker WHY IS THAT SUPER GLUE WHEN JAY SABALE, THE GMA NEWS REPORTER FROM THE PHILIPPINES, REPORTS????
Nathan Parker THEY CANT INSIST OF MODERNIZING ELEVATORS.....
When its going only one floor its almost as slow as ecodisc inspection speed.
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If you think that's bad, you should try out the lifts at Princess Quay in Hull... Otis lifts that have had their buttons replaced with a part refurb and part awful placing - the buttons on both lifts are screwed in!
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Perpetuum Msio World 381 what’s up with you asshole
Large chains usually have a regional/national service contract for their lifts etc. This applies even if they rent the building ( I worked in a unit in a shopping centre that had Otis lifts maintained by Kone [although given how bad the company I worked for was I am surprised they did not get Stannah], the other lifts in the centre were maintained by the center themselves.
I would have thought that the Premier Inn estates department would know when they are being conned by a supplier and avoid pointless work.
B-FLAT MINOR!!!!!!
😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡
This is Premier Inn Gatwick, where a set of Ecodiscs were modded by Titan for reliability purposes
Get Kone to turn it back into a real eco Disc!
NO!
I DARE YOU!!!
Moreeeee money!!!!!!! :(
... With intelligent levelling?
@Royal Dax ¿
@Daredevil YES TURN IT TO ECODISC
My building has Mitsubishi from 2000’s and still working fine :D
Not OEM maintained....
if i owned kone i would make the motor only compatible with kone branded logic so whenever the little lift modernisation people come they would have to replace everything and then the building owner would be like well heck if you have to replace everything then ill just keep the old one.
NOOOOO!!!
I DARE YOU!!!
Just like Otis did- Beno said you need this tool thingy to change the logic.
How would one do that with a motor? A motor will run as long as the coils are powered correctly.
@@user2C47 Motor control Board embedded inside, cannot be removed as set in metal.
what the heck have they done!!!! it's so funny how slow it goes between floors!
YOU LOSE!
Faster than your legs.
These Are The Lifts At Premier Inn Gatwick North Terminal
FUCKING MODERNIZATION!!!!
FUCKING MODERNIZATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
FUCKING MODERNIZATION!!!!!!
FUCKING MODERNIZATION!!!!!!!
FUCKING MODERNIZATION!!!!!!!!!
FUCKING MODERNIZATION!!!!!
You should have 'broken' the lift, would have shown the hotel how shit the lifts really are....
I have been in the old ones I know where that is, good thing they haven't modernised the single one around the other side of the building
lol
Dom BROKEN THE LIFT?!??! THIS IS NOT IMPORTANT IMPROVEMENT DESIGN IS NOT FOR REVOLTAGE MURDERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!
Elevation0304 Reborn
BROKEN THE LIFT??????
What, leave it on inspection?
You literally and casually eating a sandwich on top of the lift before it was modernised cracks me up
CRACKING THE LINE OF THE TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
4:32 in the middle right corner you can see the old ecodisc indicators
THAT'S NOT EVEN THE LOSS!!!!!!!!!
Bloody hell calm down
lester controls jumpscare 4:37
It would be nice if they changed it back into an EcoDisc and smashed the Lester controls with a hammer.
YES, what I would do is, reprogram one of the generics, destroy another and get every other lift in the building un-modded to be an awesome 2.5m/s EcoDisc again
If you could find out where to get EcoDisc logic except from Kone.
That can't be true?
The new mod does pre-doors.
Well, with the pre-doors it takes less time to travel between the floors.
The Kone Monospaces at my shopping mall were just 10+ years old and Kone decided to mod them with Dewhurst fixtures. Only difference is that they have newer LCE logic and have the same speed before the mod came into place. But this has gone worse than normal, it’s PAINFULLY SLOW and doesn’t feel like a real Kone. Also I do like it before the mods because they feel like Minispaces for 10 floors.
*HAYOP KA!!!*
No, this is a generic company saying they are KONE but they are not.
Please, forgive me, Beno....
Let the Ecodisc turn back....
You should do some reprogramming on the Lester Controls to make the new lifts run like the KONE EcoDisc ones
NO
I don't think that is possible, but it may be possible to make them run at 0.1m/s no matter what distance it is travelling...
@@ZZ9ProductionsOFFICIAL WHAT?
You can reprogram Lester to be as efficient as LCE
1 floor trip feels like inspection
NO NO !!!!!
I agree it is like inspection speed soooo sloww
NO F&*K YOU GUYS! 🤬
hey Beno the single floor speed is like the same as inspection speed :D
NO!!!!!!
@@PrestissimoMasterStation why :D
Apart from the lifts now doing slight pre-doors, this is like murder. And they could've easily made the Ecodisc logic do pre'doors as people do that all the time. I don't know what Jackson Lift Group and Premier Inn think they're doing.
I WON'T STAND FOR LONG!!!!!!!!!
YOU ARE NOT FILMING THOSE GENERIC LIFTS ONCE AGAIN!!!!!!!!
Yes cuz about the lift In M&S in Winchester had a Kone M series but they been modernised by Jackson lift group how it is you know it has please mind the doors doors closing how it is Stupid Jackson is very very stupid and Cheap lift and it’s not even interesting to ride it so not good for us to ride it.
Can you do some reprogramming on the controllers on the modded lifts?
William Scoufaras NO!
NO!!!!
YES, THIS IS ESSENTIAL
NO, NO, NO!!!!!
Like he did on some other ones? Like when he made the indicator on a lift say MOO ?
Floridian Elevators loves and you hate when KONE ecodisc gets modernized
Was the reason for the modernization the existing Kone elevators were making too much noise? So they swap out the original logic controller for some "generic" one not compatible with the drive of the Kone system? Yeah, the access panel was a half-a job with a cable just hanging there. Like putting the wrong type of gas in the tank engine knocking. That elevator is very rough in start/stop.
I wouldn't say the modernization has made the lifts any quieter
@@benolifts HUH?????
IT'S NOT FAIR THAT THE ECODISCS HAVE BEEN MODERNIZED.
how old are these elevators anyway? If anything the "modernization" made a fully functioning elevator a disaster leaving an expensive repair to get it back into shape.
@TheTheo58 these lifts are from 2007 ABSOLUTELY NO NEED TO BE MODERNISED!!!!
How to increase speed from 1 m/s to 1.6m/s in new GGCPUm controller board? Before it was at high speed now the techs reduced it to 1 m/s
WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT?!?!?!
@@PrestissimoMasterStation yes
I like how RUclips generated some key moments.
To be brutally honest, it looks like it gets to your floor in pretty good speed. I’ve never seen a lift that is really fast, so maybe I am just used to the speed of regular elevators.
I don't know why people are in such a rush it's still faster than using the stairs and at the end of the day who gives a crap if it takes 2 seconds more to get from one floor to another. It's also slower and therefore more efficient so hey who knows what the guy that made this video for when he made it. Slower means less energy and more efficiency don't know why he is making such a big deal of nothing I don't think anyone cares if they get to the floor just a tad later.
modernizations are horrible and nasty when lift companys destroy nice old lifts
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B-FLAT MINOR!!!!!!
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Ha hopefully KONE will come and sort them out. KONE has the quality generic doesn’t and it’s as simple as that guys and I’m just hoping KONE will put all of their awesome parts back in.
*WARNING!!!!!*
LOOK WHAT THEY'VE DONE!!!!!!
What happens if you put your hand in front of the barcode scanner.
The lift emergency stops and goes into position lost mode
If a lift takes 10-15 seconds per floor in a building how slow is it?
Also the same lift moves vertically when I shift my weight around, idk if it's the floor or the car.
Coding Ethan Probably 0.25 m/s, because most 1 m/s lifts take 5 secs between each floor. If you half that, you have 10 secs and 0.5 m/s. Half it again and you have 15 secs and 0.25 m/s.
Timed the lift today, turns out not as slow as I thought, actual stats, actual figures below.
Using the calculations above, must be about 1/ms accelerating slowly.
Used stopwatch and pressed lap when the elevator announced 'Going Down', since it does that every floor.
5th to 4th - 10s
4th to 3rd - 5.6s
3rd to 2nd - 5s
2nd to 1st - 5s
1st to ground - 4.5s.
For Coding Ethan's sake......
B-FLAT MINOR!!!!!!
GET ME OUT OF HERE!!!!!
@Beno
The modernised lift at 2:47 sounds so sad right?
kone: i will make you into a polaris
The new Motor sound is angelic
Generics are just jealous
AAAAAAHHHHH!!!!!!
I DARE YOU!!!!!
It makes me so angry seeing things like this, it's disgusting where we live in a world where money comes before anything else. Could be maybe to do with the fixtures falling off or breaking? Kone's buttons aren't the most durable, and last time you rode this it was making an awful squealing noise while travelling, do you think they could have used that as an excuse?
The wheels were loud on the right hand lift. That is the non modernized ecodisc that I surfed and the problem had been fixed. Nothing mechanically has been changed with this modernization.
Beno ADVANTAGE FOR SOMETHING!?!?!
Reece Collison OUT OF SERVICE!
Beno OUT OF SERVICE
I DARE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Who's idea was it to Glue that horrible brick stuff to the counterweight?
MY WORST NIGHTMARE HAS COME TRUE!!!
*NNNNNNNNIIIIIIIIIIGGGGHHHHHTTTTTTTMMMMMMMMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRREEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!*
If I was and Ecodisc
This generic lift company should be ashamed of its self for modernizing this 10 year old ecodisc!!!😡😡😡
Which location where that generic lift company modernized the ecodiscs?
ANG KAPAL NG MUKHA, GENERIC!!!!
How about the side lift that the alex ellis channel rode 3 years ago?
OO, DI BA?
I hope the side lift does not get modernized!!!
I'm curious as to the type of data coming off the 2d strip at 4:03.
Its an Absolute Position encoder Strip, on the left and right edge you have the Clock Signal, in between there is Data in a custom pattern to determine the position of the Car in the Hoistway.
@@mschwembergerOk
Horrible, acceleration is pathetic and the new VF is so noisy.
In 5:44,beno taking break in lift shaft be like
YAY shit logic will dennis the drugs dog return
Dennis can't return as he is of train surfing, but there are plenty more ripped open soft toys for another video.
You could find the same train and say hi to him
The train has almost certain been through the wash. I wonder if he is still on top.
Beno if he is that would be funny drugs that where left in him all over the train wash
Beno he is.
They only modernized one lift when it actually is a set of lifts, which just shows the stupidity of generic lift companies.
GRRRRRRR
The accel looks like the lift is just drifting.
*WHAT HAVE THEY DONE WITH THOSE HORRIBLY MODERNIZED ECODISCS, BENO LIFTS????????*
2:43
OH NOOOOO!!!! THE ECODISCS GOT HORRIBLY MODERNIZED!!!!!!
New Msio World 1 FUCKING MODERNIZATION!!!!!!!!!!!
New Msio World 352 You have lost your skills....
New Msio World 352 YOU HAVE LOST!!!!!!
YOU ARE SUCH A LOSER!
Well the side lift is still original!
What the hell have they done? That's a really stupid modernization on that lift
I WON'T STAND FOR LONG!!!!!!!!!
YOU ARE NOT FILMING THOSE GENERIC LIFTS ONCE AGAIN!!!!!!!!
Probably the best thing about the generic is that it still uses ecodisc moter
Yeah.
I Love The Braking On The Old But the new Disc Better
...with crappy Lester to boot. (if you meant the modded MonoSpaces in this video)
ECODISC WITH CRAPPY LESTER CONTROLS????????????????
This is not my secret location
YOU HAVE LOST!!!!!
Let me guess, Another Evil Owl mod?
NOOOOOOO!
NO!
NO!
WHAT IS THAT EVIL OWL MOD?!??!?!
Yep
Lord.... help....
Save our people....
Let the Ecodiscs go back to the past.....
If the Ecodiscs have been horribly modernized by a generic....
OSCAR OIDA REPORTS!!!
At least there are pre-doors!
no
???
There's pre doors though, and there weren't before.
Whoever commission that lift .didn't do a good job . That lift needs retuning.. or the, V3 f drive could be faulty
if the lift is locked up they should call KONE. if the lift was locked up, they wouldn't be able to mod it.
what area is this Premier Inn in?
I didn't know the location.
I think based on another comment
Gatwick north
I predict since this video was made each generic should have broken down 20 times.
20 TIMES???????????????
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
100,000 TIMES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHAT?
100000 times actually sounds more realistic
50,000,000 TIMES!!!!!
250,000,000 TIMES!!!!!!!!!!!!
HOW DARE YOU MODERNIZED THE ECODISC??????
Omg evil owl totally went too far that time
This makes me angry. Why would they do that for money? If I own a shop, I refuse to take any offer that any generic lift company gives me.
What a waste of money! And such a shame too! That poor Ecodisc...
Matthew Burke oh no
Oh no.....
THIS IS NOT THE SELECTION YOU'VE THOUGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!
OUCH, That emerency stop is painful 7:34. And for 2M/S EcoDisc it makes a bad sound!
It's not where you stop
I absolutely hate this mod like WHY and I don’t think these will last and I hate how slow these elevators are.what they could do to make to money is they saving it for something else.
NOW YOU ARE A LIAR!!!!!
GO!!! HITMONCHAN!!!
HITMONCHAN, USE KARATE CHOP TO DESTROY THOSE LESTER CONTROLS NOW!!!!!
#prestoworld4186 ARE YOU F**KING SEROUS AND KIDDING ME!!??
4:12 WTF! Why so slow?
I don't remember that Beno is upset that the Ecodisc got horribly modernized....
quite funny youre eating a lunch by sitting on the elevater :P
beno is very amusing.
#Beno It’s Okay Eat Sandwich 🥪 At Lift 😊
Beno!!!! You cannot film those horribly modernized ecodiscs!!!
5:06 That Motor
Which Premier inn did that ecodisc got modernised in?
I Can't BELIEVE IT!
IT WAS IN LONDON!
This is horrendous! I can't believe they modded an EcoDisc!!
Matt Moyes HORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRREEEERNNNNNNDDOOOUUSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Matt Moyes HORRENDOUS
B-FLAT MINOR!!!!!! HORRENDOUS!!!!!
HORRENDOUS!!
HORRRRRRREEENNNDOOOUUUSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!
I WON'T STAND FOR LONG!!!!!!!!!
YOU ARE NOT FILMING THOSE GENERIC LIFTS ONCE AGAIN!!!!!!!!
How old the lift was?
Maario Ambel 10 years...
10 YEARS OLD!!!
10 years old
I Dont Know Who Modernised These Lifts I Think Jackson Or Temple
@@glat15 I Think Jackson
It was actually Titan Range who modded the lift
3:51
What’s deaccel JERK rate?
He looked so cozy :3
COZY??????
THIS IS THE WORST LIFT IN THE HOTEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THIS IS THE WORST LIFT IN THE HOTEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THIS IS THE WORST LIFT IN THE HOTEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OH, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#nevertrustageneric
Isn't ground floor floor 0? Why does it say floor 0 and ground floor as 2 different announcements?
They are different floors
Beno DIFFERENT FLOORS????????
Beno Lifts, if you are filming horribly modded Ecodiscs, you will lose £250 Billion.
Did they modernize the KONE ecodisc that you rode on top of yet?
William Scoufaras No.
NOOOOO!!!!!!
B-FLAT MINOR!!!!!!
I think they've all being murdernized now
ZZ9 Productions STOP!!!!
Ecodics Are Good, Generic are Bad,non Generic are not bad
€500000000 penalty
New Msio World 679 TOO MUCH LOSING MONEY
🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬say to the company owner that it was an idiotic choice to do this with this elevator!
arnt ecodisks supposedly the most modern lift going? why modernize a modern lift just sounds wrong as if the company wants cash badly
they are. modernising an ecodisc is fixing something that isn't broken, which therefore means breaking it
ECODISCS HAVE BEEN DEFEATED!!!!
NO ITS DONE!!!!!!!
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!!!!!!! THE LIFTS HAVE BEEN MODERNIZED BY A GENERIC LIFT COMPANY!!!!! GWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fuck odd
NOPE!
i could see why they do it. making a lift an experience, if your only doing two floors you likely to be doing it from the ground giving the idea of more height. if your only doing one floor you are an old lady or a service cart. capitalism = waste
GWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
There used to be a nice set of 2 M Series Schindlers at my nearest public pool, T shaped glass ones, recently they were replaced by the shittiest generic ever, it goes 0.5 fucking m/s, it jerks when u start WHAT THE FUCK
NOOOO!!!!
NO ECODISC!!!!
*$¥×8÷@
I DON'T LIKE ANY MODERNIZED ECODISC!!!!!
NO NO NO NO!!!!!!
NO NO !!!!! NO NO !!!!! NO NO !!!!! NO NO !!!!!
i mean come on this ecodisc lift even has a chassis
*HOW DARE YOU!!!!*
*HOW DARE YOU MODERNIZED THE ECODISC?!??!*
WHAT IS THIS?!??!??!?
What the hell this is the worst lift I ever seen
BENO IS UPSET OF FILMING THOSE HORRIBLY MODERNIZED ECODISCS!!!!!
I DARE YOU!!!!!
YOU ARE SO UNFAIR THAT BENO FILMED THOSE MODDED ECODISC!!!!!
AND I GAVE EVIL OWL A DETENTION FOR 1 BILLION YEARS!!!!!
THAT'S EVIL OWL'S PUNISHMENT!!!!!!!
It looks like it, Probably not (4:37)
that sure is strange.
Yep, they've ruined it.
Brilliant having lunch on the good one though 😁
THEY'VE RUINED IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Seems like generics in the UK are worse than generics in the US.
Generics in the UK are worse than every company anywhere
NO MORE ECODISCS!!!!!
@@ZZ9ProductionsOFFICIAL
THIS IS NOT YOUR REQUIREMENT