Science Fiction Became Science Fact in This Stargate Episode (Clip)
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- Опубликовано: 18 авг 2021
- Pulsars. The galaxy is loaded with them. For the Stargate Universe plot of "Incursion Part 2", the team needed a stellar "bad guy" which behaved in a certain way. They wrote it. They filmed it. Later, it was discovered in our galaxy to be a real thing. Only several billion light years off, right?
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THIS is why we need more Stargate. It's a SciFi show that actually makes a good effort to stay grounded in theoretical physics.
The Expanse
The Expanse is WAY better. Stargate broke physics every episode.
Stargate is a fantastic show, and yes we do need more Stargate. That being said, Stargate is far from grounded in real science.
@@tinamoul Granted, there's not much basis for hyperdrives, artificial gravity, or wormholes. But we're talking about a show with a science consultant that recalls a scene where two actors were diving head first into a theoretical physics topic to better portray an argument. That's worth a lot, at least to me.
Star Trek used to stay grounded, but current Trek just doesn't even try.
The cool thing about this is that the first instance of a "black widow" pulsar, classified PSR B1957+20, was discovered in 1988 but I doubt that any of the people involved in Stargate were aware of it. The thing about that fact that is cool to me is that even without being aware of an actual instance of the stellar phenomenon they were coming up with, the science people could devise an idea that was completely plausible using what they _did_ know. And then it turns out to be real, as a bonus. ^_^
The 1988 one doesn’t seem to work as described, though; the pulsar seems to be a full-time pulsar. I can’t find the one they’re actually talking about that has a six-minute cycle.
I came up with a similar idea for a sci-fi concept and got stuck at the same problem - the pulsar beam iterating too quickly. Never resolved the issue, so finding out that this is a possibility in some systems is amazing.
You know what the most preposterous theoretical thing is that turned out to be real?
Black Holes.
My favourite part of Stargate is how into it that cast and crew are. They all seem to adore the property and are just so excited by it, especially on that one in a million thing like this where they managed to predict an actual stellar phenomenon based on the requirements of the script.
Fuck didn't one of them try to buy the IP off MGM to save it from cancellation?
Joe Flannigan had investors ready to support the proposal to lease the Stargate Atlantis franchise from MGM but was unsuccessful due to MGM bankruptcy that resulted in new leadership at MGM who were not interested in leasing the Stargate Atlantis franchise.
Well, except for Michael Shanks. He was getting sick of being Daniel Jackson. And apparently juuust a bit of a prick about it.
@@ANTSEMUT1 Both Joe Flannigan and Jason Momoa tried to do it with the Atlantis brand.
Except for Richard Dean Anderson who could care less about the science, which matched perfectly with his character, lol.
The dedication to the science in general of Stargate is one reason why I love the series so much
Fiction writers really deserve more respect. When I was a teen I read a Spider-Man comic that explained how his webbing worked. About 20 years later I stumbled across this article on spiders and how new research showed how they made webbing and it was amazingly close to what I'd read in that comic all those years ago. I always thought that was soo cool. And now there's this. :D
Ignoring fact that ppl dont mutate if bite from nuke spider.
Or fact if human got spiders hairs, he still not be able to climb buildings.
Tom Clancy got questioned about The Hunt for Red October, because the CIA thought he got handed classified information, but he had just gone to the library and logic'd out some parts amd got very close to reality.
TV writers: "We've created something amazing!"
Universe: "You mean this?"
Stargate as a whole doesn't get enough appreciation. It's been bitterly apparent during this rebirth of Star Trek discussion. Don't get me wrong, I like Discovery, but all of the things people keep saying they want from Star Trek, SGU was already doing and *nobody talks about it* 😭
That's not the problem. The problem is any living entity wanting anything like either in the first place. The only thing worse, are fans who want nothing to change at all. I don't much care for either group.
@@DoremiFasolatido1979 I don't care for Discovery, but I loved SG:U.
Atlantis was already out there for people who wanted brain-dead pew-pew. SG:U was a much darker, sociological work with complex and morally grey characters. And who didn't love (or love to hate) Robert Carlysle as Dr Rush?
@@Vasharan 100% agree. SGU is the only SG show worth a damn. The rest are so hokey.
@@ShonnDaylee I think the early seasons of SG-1 were more tense, with the SG team being outmatched numerically and technologically by the Gou'Auld and System Lords, and having to survive by sheer stint of tactical battles and political maneuverings.
But then suddenly Earth went from retrofitting death gliders (poorly) to fielding capital ships more powerful than Cheops Pyramid ships overnight, and it shifted not just the scale of the conflict, but the tone of the show.
@@ShonnDaylee Totally agree! It was the only one that was remotely believable... Without all the Hollywood Cowboys.. Loved the whole concept..
The Science in Stargate (over all) is part of what makes it so fun for me and why I loved it so much
The fact alone, that a science fiction series has an actual science consultant puts back some faith into the entertainment industry for me... Way to go gals and guys. 👍🏻
Its the secret ingredient that makes "the expanse" good to
Science consultants, military consultants, makes for believability.
I wish it was still as common as it used to be.
It's like writing a fan fiction about your favorite book, then the next volume comes out and bam! it's there.
The Universe just decided your fan fiction was canon.
yeah, except fan fiction is cringe
@@fraydizs7302 Probably why most Science Fiction stories remain Fiction. The Universe thinks they are cringe.
Some become canon.
true, but in that situation it's more likely to be intellectual theft
Shows with actual science which are also engrossing and entertaining are a powerful tool to create the next generation of scientists. They bring out the best in human character and ingenuity.
We could use more of that.
Absolutely.
"The event on which this fiction is founded has been supposed, ..... , as not of impossible occurrence." (M.S. "Frankenstein")
Improbable. Unlikely. But rarely impossible.
A "science fiction" story that has shown itself to be science fact that predates the Stargate sets of shows, 20,000 Leagues Under The Sea by Jules Verne. Steel Submarines and nuclear / solar powered. The line "powered by the power of the sun itself" can be either, though the description of a bright engine power source suggests a reactor so a fusion reactor for solar power ( fusion ) and a contained engine. Written well before the Ironclads were first built.
Don't most power sources come from the Sun ultimately? Hydroelectric wouldn't work if water didn't evaporate, Wind is caused by convection, Solar is obvious, and Fossil Fuels are powered by life that used photosynthesis to create energy.
@@RRW359 on a grander scale, everything is from stars.
virtually every element is made from stars.
OMG David, you have to have Mika on again, she was awesome in this interview and was a total joy to listen to! 👍✨
I can’t wait to have her back for season two! She’s extremely busy though so we will have to wait and see but I’m trying hard.
@@DialtheGate AWESOME! I can't wait! 😊👍✨
Can you just get a GoPro and follow her around then? Nerdy Science Stalkers are so under rated.
Agreed I want to hear her talk more about science
Yep she was amaizing ! So passionate and enthousiast, made me smile with her the whole time
this is a great example of how fiction doesnt have to be "made up". like how interstellar contributed to real math behind how black holes work just so we normal people can visualize a scene
I agree with you ! It helps science vulgarization, boosts our curiosity and can even help comprehend our understanding of the universe. Science consultants are so important and cool to ground shows in reality. A lot of Science-fiction authors imagined things that came true years later, it is so inspiring !
It's also why I get annoyed when people call science fiction magic. :)
@@mischarowe yes it's mostly a lack of knowledge and imagination. Visionaries of all time associate science and imagination to think and theorized crazy new ideas relatively to their time. Nowdays hard science has become some sort of cult or religion where scientists will not admit something they can't explain is actually possible and/or true... We need grounded imagination to evolve
@@clairep5130 Where did you get the idea that "hard science" is some cult or religion?.
The whole point of science is that it's a tool to figure out the natural world. In the scientific mind, it's just that they don't claim something as real or possible if there's nothing to compare it to.
In order to figure out if something is possible you need to demonstrate the plausibility. Wild ideas are thrown around all the time - the whole point of coming up with new hypothesis to test (therefore science) REQUIRES imagination. But if you're unable to demonstrate something it just remains a hypothesis and not theory. (It would be unprofessional to say X is possible if they can't explain HOW, after all.) It's entirely reasonable to not claim something is true or possible without anything to back it up.
And unlike something supernatural or magic, science IS grounded in reality. Because it's the best tool we have to figure things out. Unless it gets replaced by something else later that works much better, it's simply the only way to find truths, for now.
I'm not sure that you understand the scientific method if this is your take on it. Where did you get this "cult or religion" idea from?
Also, while science doesn't claim things as fact, it also can demonstrate impossibilities. When a scientist is saying "that's not possible", they're referring to the plausibility according to known physics. Science changes our understanding of the universe every day. And no scientist worth their salt will claim we know everything.
To say it's a cult or religion is to not understand it at all.
@@mischarowe wow relax I meant it because many of my friends but also people on the internet reffer for example to the laws of physics as absolute and ultimate, and would not even imagine them to be relative or incomplete or just wrong. While we actually dont know and maybe cant know. They proved to be held by simili-dogmatic beliefs, disregarding any serious discussion outside of their scope of comprehension, showing a very sad lack of imagination. Same goes in Archeology for example. When findings and discoveries shake our whole paradigm and scientists reject it at first. It's just the way it is but thank the cosmos all scientists are not like that... it's just something I noticed more and more, especially about archeology and ufology, I am sure you see why and what I am talking about. And if not it means you may be one of them ^^
Man I love SGU, it is that step more towards Star trek while being completely its own thing.
That is amazing,I could listen to Mika science me up seven days a week. Please take every opportunity to include Mika's take on anything she is prepared to talk about,astrophysics,the costumes,the weapons,the catering,set design or absolutely anything I don't mind.
I. Love. This. So. Much. Her excitement over the science and the show taking it seriously is just infectious.
I did a double take when I found out that NASA named an asteroid "Apothis" I was like no way! .it was one of the coolest "Stargate" references I've seen!
Apophis.
Yeah I loved that too, I wondered if it was a true reference to Stargate and I actually think it is haha
@@clairep5130 "Tholen and Roy A. Tucker, two astronomers who are reportedly fans of Stargate SG-1, named a near-Earth asteroid that they co-discovered in 2004, 99942 Apophis as an allusion to the Stargate villain."
@@Rezinstance amaizing !
I didn't assume Stargate was the source of it. I thought the name was Appropriate to Egyptian Mythology. Ra chases away Apophis every night. If Ra fails Apophis will consume/destroy the world.
This was by far the funniest interview that David has done to date on Dial the Gate. Mika was hilarious and really knew what she was talking about.
Love that she handed the writers and actors tools like that.
That bit in the second half was priceless, those are exactly the kind of characters who'd lose themself down such scientific rabbit holes.
Of course Jaffa have the "gun that never runs out of ammo"
Just never happened to have seen a "charging" scene, like do the gliders have a "tanker" or do they ALWAYS come back to the mothership or a planet for fueling?
@@kurtsnyder4752 a fair point sir
@@AlaskanBallistics Or certain biological functions ANYWHERE in sci fi stories, though the fan fic series A Different Future about an alternate timeline for Buffy The Vampire Slayer's Cordelia Chase character has her in one of the stories, infiltrating a Gou'ald base and they hide in a jaffa toilet. Never seen in Stargate as far as i know or Captain Kirks' bath in Star Trek.. Yes, non canon blueprints exist irl but never seen on screen.
Wireless charging - Samsung and Apple and others have been doing it for years!
Liquid naqadah
Stargate Universe was hands down a masterpiece, how I wish it would have gotten the chance to grow.
Just watched the complete interview and it was just what I'd hoped for,full of Mika's enthusiasm from start to finish. Another great interview David, I look forward to her next one.
That tower that was on the one planet on Universe is what I want to know more about. It's the planet some left on and later "returned".
Furlings
@@damagedcharizardcollector1195 too far away
Great interview. She was absolutely wonderful! Her enthusiasm for science is really pleasant.
What a strange world I literally just had a discussion with my siblings and parents about StarTrek and Paul Stamets the real-life scientist who inspired a character in StarTrek Discovery an astromycologist. My oldest brother made a good point about how science fiction and real-life science seem to have a weird which came first the chicken or the egg thing going on.
ok but that example has an easy answer.
The chicken came first. Because the egg can't run.
(not sorry)
@@a-blivvy-yus Which works for a joke but logically eggs vastly preceded chickens. You had eggs around millions upon millions of years ago, possibly even billions of years ago but no chickens.
@@myrddinemrys1332 Unless you mean, as the context of the question implies, specifically chicken eggs. In which case the egg still came first, because the first being to be identified as a chicken would have come from an egg that birthed a chicken. But its parents would have been something different enough not to carry the name.
I've been watching SG from 1st on for the first time in years in order for me to try and enjoy and learn new things. I just watched Daniel Die and ascend again and it bummed me out all over again knowing full well what's to come. That is the mark of a truly great show and this channel is the mark of the very best of living it all over again. Thanks so much. Please keep up the great work!
Wow this science consultant is AWESOME. I want her to have her own RUclips channel. That enthusiasm paired with that knowledge is PERFECT for a science communicator.
I love the videos and Mika ! It would be very cool to publish a short video for the StargateSG1Day initiative and the episodes of each day. A tint video so we can discuss it in the comments. I personnally hate Twitter so it would be very cool. Wish you all the best thanks for your work !
I'm not a Stargate fan but I'm amazed by the concept. Even more when you apply creativity and facts you come to theories which at first sound farfetched, but the universe still have so many misteries to unravel. Great video you have a new subscriber.
What a Charming and Enthusiastic and Amusing Lady . Great micro interview .
Fanatastic! Nerdy debate between Eli and Rodney leads to the Series, Stargate Universe.. lol
That was very interesting. Thanks mate. Enjoyed.
Really cool! Thanks for sharing.
I love your programs.Do many more. Thank you.
Wonderful interview. Hopefully the first of many.
Two of Stargate's strengths are that it took science seriously and tried to be plausible and realistic; and that it took the military and the space agencies seriously and tried to portray them realistically, with internal differences of opinion, realistic people, rather than as a caricature or a villain, but as hard-working, smart, dedicated people usually. Stargate could play fast and loose with things, but it also did try to be grounded, and it nearly always remembered that character matters more than plot points or fancy effects; character drives the plot points. -- I loved the ep where they have to escape from a planet too near a black hole, and nearly endanger Earth from the black hole's effects seeping through the gate. They find a way to defeat it by being smart, using their heads. -- Other episodes like this throughout the three series.
I love every part of this story so much omg. One little nitpick, though, because SGU is my obsession, the Destiny actually never enters hyperspace, but instead travels at FTL in normal space somehow.
That is correct, which is why it's called FTL and not hyperspace.
This woman has so much passion for science it’s hard to contain
RUclips's algorithm gave me this notification 4 days late. My fault for not being subscribed though. Don't worry, I've rectified my error and subscribed plus turned on notifications.
I worked a sci-fi convention that has actual scientists that would come and talk with the convention goers. This would be in the main events room where the stars like RDA would talk. We would have 3/4 full rooms for the scientific talks. 😊
What fun! I wonder whether any shows (there are many that still don't) would respect the science if it weren't for conventions and fansites where devoted fans question, challenge, and criticize bafflegab. I remember many years ago at a con after Larry Niven's monster hit Ringworld came out, fans with math skills calculated that the Ringworld would be unstable without attitude jets. Niven used that knowledge to drive his sequel.
Good stuff!
I always enjoyed Stargate for its scientific intricacy and accuracy.
Way better than some of those other X-treme shows.
Amazing. I love it when Sci fi and real life astrophysics meet !!!!!
And i really love the Stargate franchise... I really wish they would stop teasing us ... are they gonna reboot it.? Or continue where we left off .....
You can tell she is really excited in the first seconds to speak about this
Science fiction to science Fact!,& not for the first time!,that's just fabulous,while i was watching this before Mika said we found this for real,i thought well of course this could exist!,there's so much yet to be found out there!.I also enjoyed this version of Stargate,just sad we never got more of it!
Love SG1 series. Been rewatching it lately, I’m on season 5 right now.
"It all ties together, AHH!" oof that hurts a bit since SG:U only teased what Dr Rush was uncovering before ending with no resolution.
What Rush discovered was that Destiny housed the secret of transcendence of the Ancients. His discovery of patterns in the microwave background was a fore shadow of this. Unfortunately this was never quite fleshed out before the season ended but was certainly a reveal in season 3. This was why Rush came off like a neurotic douchebag and likely why so many aliens were targeting destiny. The mere knowledge that Destiny contained the potential to turn corporeal beings into god's was too dangerous for the other crew to be even made aware of although Rush was coming to the conclusion Eli would eventually put the bread crumbs together. This paints a total different picture of why Rush was so erratic and paranoid at times and his actual motivations. Caryle's performance was brilliant and the writing was brilliant. The cancelation of season 3 was criminal.
Nice job Mika! That's brilliant. =)
If you cross your eyes in just the right way, David and Mikas face blend and it looks like they're taking at the same time 😂 I have lazy eyes though, so it might just be me lol
aw, she was great :-) fun to listen too
she looks more alive than it should be possible to. So enthusiastic, so energetic. Unreal :)
I think this interview was better than any of the cast ones. I like hearing what the cast has to say but this lady was so excited and coherent that I couldn't look away and I want more.
I’ll be honest, here; I *loved* the commentary tracks on SG-1, because it was very, very rarely the actors; it was special effects people, or filming crew… all the “behind the camera”-folks who makes the magic actually happen, at it was always incredibly interesting. :)
Nobody gets into their franchise as much as the Stargate staff. Trek is a distant second.
I remember interviews with Amanda Tapping where she talked about correcting the script for accuracy.
Richard Dean Anderson and Christopher Judge apparently show up in SG gear at airsoft games.
SG-U was the only series in the franchise that could br called true Science Fiction, and season 2 was breathtaking in its scope and vision. Unfortunately SG-U had a fatal flaw - it was smarter than its audience.
This is awesome!
Clearly the studio made this star system to be the set piece for Stargate SG-1.
Case in point, Gargantua (Interstellar Black Hole). Most Astrophysicists were so sure that's not how it would look like... until just recently. LOL
Edit: It's instances like these. The Black Widow Pulsar, Gargantua, etc... that really leads me to believe that stars are the white holes we're looking for, and that (from the outside perspective) it may actually be very possible to drop into a black hole without getting all spaghettified.
I now want to watch Stargate… and I don’t anything about this show, but that attention to detail tells me it must be good.
She's Awesome! I love the enthusiasm.
That's incredibly cool.
SG was ahead of its time.
Someday I hope to see it make a comeback as Star Trek did.
Universe was one series that I could not get into. But its a cool thing to have conceived and found the concept was validated by nature.
When science fiction successfully predicts science fact, you know you did it right!
Good video
What an enigmatic person. Could listen to her for hours :)
man I love scientists :-) they as in Mika have awsome stuff to tell!! :-D
SGU was a great premise and could only be properly told through multiple episodes, wish it was longer
"Kill kill kill, die die die, all of that"
This showed up in
my feed right when I'm in the middle of an episode of SGU. 🤷
Universe- hold my nebula and watch this
I love here :) Super cool.....
What is probable is most likely out their. We just haven't seen it yet or searched that star maps it is already recorded but so much information to scan through will take decades still unless it is shared amongst the people interested in helping
I read a book once, I'm pretty sure it was Footfall by Larry Nivens where he had a character say "Necessity isn't the mother of invention, the Sci-Fi writer is". Someone writes something in a book or movie script and later someone reads it and says I think I can make that work. Now we have cell phones and laptops like Star Trek had and after Voyage Home some engineer was playing around and melted Aluminum Oxide powder and created the first transparent Aluminum that the air-force is using for helmet visors and windshields now. Not to mention that the military has crude medical tricorders for field medics and laser scalpels.
go and have a look for the Picorder. its working tricorder basically
Her love of science is infectious. :)
I would love it, if one day, there was a real person in the suit of armour (space suit???) behind you and part way through the show they just walked across the room and left. Or waved to the camera, then left or something.
I want to know what came out of that black hole a few years ago .
That's MOST interesting !
When a plot device is found to exist in reality.
Mika is absolutely energetic and stunning! Wish to see her in next SG!!!
I miss SG1 so much... ☺️
Which episode are you referring too? That when they made it up for the show then scientist found it. Trying to remember, but can't find it
Does anyone know what episode of Stargate they where referring to as I could go and purchase it and watch it.
“Incursion Pt 2”
@@DialtheGate thank you very much.
great to learn about _black widow pulsars_
This reminds me of the Velociraptors of Jurassic Park, that were ridiculously oversized (at the time, the largest raptor was the size of a Turkey), until the Utahraptor was discovered just after the movie came out, and it was Spielberg’s size from the movie.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Widow_Pulsar .. and there are now 3 or 4 of them now - including one which the planet is hyper compact carbon ... known as the diamond planet ...
When is Mika coming back ... such enthusiasm!
Mika: a couple years later it was discovered, we did it in stargate first
(incursion part 2 aired june 2010)
wikipedia black widow pulsar Discovered in 1988
Mika McKinnon, you inspire me! I want to be a science consultant!
Ah I love scientists geeking out)
I have only one thing to say; "Science!"
I would really love for this video to be accessible via subtitles, i can barely understand a thing due to my hearing disability but I'm super curius
The subtitles usually do a really good job of translating my speech. Im sorry to hear this. If the show starts doing gangbusters in the next year or two it will be on my agenda to have staff specifically in charge of captions. I’ve also got faith in the continuing advancement of RUclips’s AI.
@@DialtheGate Yeah it does on most videos but this one doesnt even offer auto generated subtitles and I dont know why
We should demand the scientific community to change the name of the system to “the Stargate System”. They deserve it if they came up with the concept of the system before it was discovered
Hey, when you record these bits, is your audio and the guest audio being tracked separately? It would be cool if you mute yourself in post while the guest is talking. It's super distracting listening to your breathing. You could also use a noise gate live to mute yourself when not actually talking if you have that capability.
oh its a universe episode, thats why i dont remember it lol.
Mika is such a delightful nerd!
Too cool.
Ok this is actually cool.
You sound surprised!
@@DialtheGate More like impressed
Side note...the background radiation "message" was translated and it says..."We've been trying to reach you about your cars extended warranty"
its your space ships extended warranty, but otherwise correct
Stargate universe, was incredible nerdy at the astro phycisist / computer science / evolutional biologist- level. Really a shame the cancelled it. Good news is however that they currently are in intergalactice transit in cryosleep, so if the series is ever picked up again, they can just continue the story line.
I want the return of all the shows especially sgu
Huh. You know there was an idea that KIC 8462852 (tabbys star) was building up fuel, then igniting to a bright burn period before dropping off again to build up more fuel. It almost sounds like that. And it seems to have multiple super jupiters.
Thats difference between making series based on real science and with make up science, with just what that part of series need.