The Drake Diner Slayings | Full Episode | Hometown Tragedy: A True-Crime Series
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- Опубликовано: 20 июл 2022
- It's the day after Thanksgiving 1992 in Des Moines, Iowa, and few want to cook. Locals head to the popular Drake Diner instead. In front of a packed restaurant, an armed man shoots and kills two diner employees. Is the town as peaceful as some say?
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Lol
Right!😡
Just started watching it and that was the first thing I reacted to. "JUST CALM DOWN!".
I was wondering the same thing.
What's with 911 operators being so rude
Establish dominace, like putting the suspects back to the wall. He can see the door but can't leave cause the cops in the way.
I thought the same thing.I would like to see how calm some of the 911 operaters would be in those situations.
@@tacob69 you are dumb. The 911 operator has to be forceful. They are trying to get vital information.
They need more training and better training
Some people are A holes.
If i had a penny for every time someone on a crime show says "things like that don't happen here" i would be a billionaire.
Crime happens everywhere!
Lol right
You watch too much TV
The 911 operator was cruel, in a situation like that, you hear location and gun and dispatch. Then you try your best to keep the person on the line and you help calm them not tell them to calm down. Left my blood boiling.
That 911 operator was AWFUL
Fire her ass, how the hell can you stay calm.
Mine too. I was shocked, then appalled smh... 💯💯
I would have asked to speak to her manager, lol. I know in that situation but but she did not help at all. There's a reason she was hysterical. Damn!
i didn't like or appreciate her tone either🤬
It's sad to know that these 911 dispatchers are so rude to people that need help or are in distress
I didn’t realize it was the customer service line and not the getting information so ppl don’t die line. 🤡
Iowa is a mostly white state." Well excuse us white people all to hell! Apparently we're the cause of most of the crime being committed by minorities. Facts don't seem to matter in the US anymore. Just blame it on all those white people.
@@TikiTorcher rude
@@TikiTorcherdoesn’t matter- a little compassion wouldn’t hurt 🙄
Drives me crazy with the “this doesn’t happen here” it happens Everywhere
Exactly, when you watch a lot of crime channels, you notice how many times they make that statement,and "here people sleep with their doors and windows open because blah blah blah, no where in the world will I sleep with my doors unlocked.
Lol it's not even a small town. It's a city of over 200 000.
There are places things like this happen routinely, and places where it’s unheard of or nearly so.
Usually if someone says a place is the type where it doesn’t happen, it’s because the demographics there are changing and a new (worse) normal is being introduced.
America's love affair with guns is national.
I will say, being from Des Moines Iowa myself. Nothing happens here lol. So it’s still very talked about. I was born in the 2000’s like a decade after this happened and people still talk about it all the time. I actually just had dinner at the Drake Diner last night and people were talking about it, that’s how I happened upon this video.
"Why were you so calm during your 911 call is a little suspicious...."
" I was trying not to upset the 911 operator, I don't want to be yelled at!"
When my husband went down in February of 2022, the 911 operator was rude to me as well! She was screaming at me about my CPR!!! I screamed back at her, "I know what I am doing lady!" "Now you do your job and get someone here to help me for the reason I told you from the get go!" "And don't you be worrying about what I am doing or how I am doing it!" At least I knew it and had known it since high school! They need to chill!!! And be retrained in talking calmly, because anyone needing help is not!!! Prayers for the families!
🍃❤Love from Texas❤🍃
You're not the only one. Unfortunately you don't get to pick your operator.
How do you expect a person to “calm down” when they just seen 2 murders!? No compassion from the dispatcher! So Rude to that young girl.
How do you expect the 911 operator to get you help in that situation if they have to spend all their time coddling you and patting your hand saying OH DEAR? They are trained to GET INFORMATION so they can SEND YOU HELP. They literally have SECONDS to get information from you to SAVE YOUR LIFE.
My husband was on hospice care at home. My sister came over to see my husband. He passed a few minutes later. I was very upset so she called 911. She told the operator that my husband had died. The operator responded "did you kill him? She got so upset she handed my the phone. We still talk about that terrible day.
@Phyllis Patterson All condolences to you & your family for your lamented loss. And 2) modesty forbids I should relate the torrent of invective that issued from These Lips on reading what vile insensitivity to which you were subjected by an individual that should have been kicked to the curb for it, a bad burn mark to the soul that you have ever recalled since. Be assured that person brought Karmageddon down on itself behind that, when/where completely untraceable but inevitable, disrespecting people so badly during this most life-changing of circumstances demands karmic justice. The eddies & currents of life's flow make it a lottery-style chance it would be a carbon-copy rerun of what you were so outrageously made to suffer, but as such it could be even worse; but whatever it is, whether or not awareness comes, it will comprise cosmic payback for that gross inhumanity. Like Elmer Fudd said, "I wish I could see it!" only there's nothing funny about it here. M.H.R.I.P. & best wishes for a better New Year.
No but I’m coming for you!!! Yes they need to train these people for sure.❤Sorry for your loss
😂 a natural death at home under hospice but y'all called 911 like screaming ninnies?? Why did you call the emergency line? What did you expect lmao Use the hospice resources but no you wanted drama and y'all called 911 specifically to create it. People like you are why 911 are allowed to brisk and curt. You ignored every resource and 911 had right to be suspicious bc yall literally called them being suspicious idiots😂😂😂
Are you kidding me??? Disgusting.
I'm appalled at the dispatchers. Hopefully the dispatchers now have different employment.
911 operators are absolutely the worst. It’s like you’re interrupting them doing their nails or gossiping with their coworkers
Give them the freaking information and stop whining, their job is to send help not to be a therapist.
Apparently I'm not the only one who noticed the behavior of the 911 operator. She was reprehensible. It's obvious that she was not suitable for the job. She should have been comforting and reassuring. Instead, she was contributing to their trauma! I'd like to think that she was shown the door, but that would be naïve. She's not the first rude operator I've heard, and I suspect she won't be the last.
So, comfort the caller and let people bleed to death or not send the proper aid? Find yourself a therapist and stop thinking 911 is supposed to coddle you and comfort you. She's there to send help and nothing more.
@@annabellelee4535it’s not hard to do both you can be firm and professional without being rude it’s not a one or the other situation
@@brianwhite8593 She wasn't rude, she was just cool and professional.
@@annabellelee4535you're definitely in the minority
@@Marlaina I agree. Common sense seems to be in the minority now. I'll stick with common sense though.
I love how investigators expect you to give a detailed description of the gunman that you’re trying to run for your life from. 🤦🏻♂️
its been proven that eyewitnesses are incredibly unreliable precisely because of that fact. its rare to find one who was able to stay calm enough to ID a person's face.
funny enough, if you ask them to describe the gun, their reliability is more accurate. becuase most people are staring at the gun when they're in danger, and not the person holding it.
This is a very emotional case. I'm so sorry for the victims.
That 911 operator was the worst ! A high stress situation and she has not an ounce of compassion ! I certainly hope since then they have trained their 911 operators not just to get the information they need but to offer compassion and support ❤️
F compassion, the 911 operator is responsible for getting enough information to send the correct aid and nothing more.
@@annabellelee4535 wow.. miserable are you....?
PS: A rhetoric question..
This was the first episode I’ve ever seen of your channel, and I will say without a doubt, this is now my favorite “crime” channel. I love everything that you do, and how you do it. Never stop. Thank you for doing what you do and covering these sad stories.
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These are old shows he's uploading
@@MindyBeee either way, this is the first time I’ve watched this channel and loved it.
I moved out to Des Moines right after this and I would end up dating the daughter of the states, worst murderer. Everybody knew who he was, and who his daughter was.
Wth was wrong with the 911 dispatcher? How could u be so cruel when the woman on the phone was in obvious distress??? I really hope she hears herself on this video and is proud of her response and words she so cruelly chose to use against this poor woman who witnessed this tragedy 🥺
I hope she is no longer doing this sort of work. No empathy what’s so ever. It was bad enough ( what was happening) and she just added more fuel to the fire . Upsetting.
I absolutely agree. Some people should just not be doing this type of work
She needs to be retrained!,
@ C. Daniels "Au contraire, mam'selle," we should hope that cow literally AIN'T proud of herself for that dismal performance. She don't deserve to have swung for it, but to change them ways, "most definitely" - this wasn't some run-of-the-mill scenario of finding a big glass window busted out. My heart pained for that poor caller - I once happened onto a triple-murder scene [in an appropriately crappy old Chrysler minivan] at home in Washington & the immediate horror of the driver, strapped in & still clutching the steering wheel, his front passenger slumped over in the other direction with her bloody head on that window & - oh god - the last victim lying beside the open side door in a failed escape attempt, stayed vivid for years. Recalling it even now after a long time, ooh that memory still ripples. And I just came across that nightmare, not been in the middle of what happened, but I was still "OMG!!!!!" city on the phone, scared also that WHATever did it might still be around while I was a standing duck relaying the information & get picked off myself. [Cue cold shudders] That operator was 180 from the one in this case, sure she was briskly professional but her way of talking - I would call it the SDS approach, for "slow down some [& tell me what's happened]" - actually helped calm my shocked crying & fear of what might lurk in the darkness [a little side-street intersection with lots of trees but precious little direct lighting; no movie could be as spooky as that reality]. They should be [re]trained to say that instead of CALM DOWN which conveys no such concern for someone in terrible distress. So no, instead this sow should have been *ashamed* of herself. And I'd have raked her over the coals for it; she'd have been lucky to keep her job. "Bad operator!"
@@pppaaattt4671what's so ever? Seriously???
That 911 operator was the worst. I’m sure her supervisor heard it and hope she is no longer doing this kind of work. Empathy is definitely a must in this line of work.
I’m noticing after watching a few of these crime documentaries, the 911 dispatchers are so rude to people!
I’d tell them that and complain afterwards too.
Definitely in the wrong job if you can’t stay calm and be nice to people in distress.
Their job isn't to be your friend. They are there to get information to get you help to save your life. In a stressful situation like witnessing a couple murders you're going to be hysterical. They don't have time to baby you. They need to shock you into LISTENING and HEARING their questions. Would you rather they 'oh you poor dear do you need a hug' when someone is trying to murder you? Or do you want them to scream at you and shock you out of your hysteria so they can find out what help you need? By your reasoning they should just sit with you and sing kumbaya while you are being hacked to death.
@@stripedtigressTheir job isn’t to be anybody’s friend but their job DEFINITELY isn’t to be a**holes. They always sound like Karens who obviously need training or a new job.
@@Dreamy_m Why don't you try their job then Jesus?
Not gon lie, his lack of any emotion whether innocent or guilty is bothering me 😅
That 911 dispatcher is a piece of $hit. She was acting as if the caller just interrupted her lunch and was a major inconvenience to her. That behavior should be instant termination
@ 6:24 😲
The way the "dispatcher was talking was extremely unprofessional!" 😱 "My jaw hit the ground" when I heard her say: "Calm DOWN!" "I need to get the information!" "What's the problem?!?" 😳 It was "completely unnecessary" she did not need to speak to that young lady in that manner... just to get the "right information" that she needed... 😰 "That's just ridiculous!" What kind of "training" was this woman under because I do not get it? 🙄 She should have been "held responsible" for her "consequences & repercussions" for how she spoke to that young lady... "regardless of the situation!" 😤 I don't see how "taking that tone of voice was beneficial" for anyone in the "situation!" 😬 My mom always told me when I was younger: "it's not what you say it's how you say it!" 😕😶 I believe that to be "true and I live by it!" 😏😇
@Black Lives Matter "Mother knows best!" scores again!🗑 Keep right on living, as do me, those Certain Truths. Miss Sucked Teeth Rolled Eyes Annoyed this call was interrupting her coffee cake break needed all you said, & even more - held up to public scorn for it, shamed either out of that job or into being better at it. Even now before I hit the blue button there's an even worse ugliness related right below by @Phyllis Patterson. "Totally outrageous!"
She handled the hysterical caller very well. Her job is to get information to be able to send aid in an emergency, not to coddle and coo. What's wrong with you? The information is what's important. You really want people to die while hysterical people are comforted? F that.
Why all the "random" quotation "marks"?
Why are 911 operators so rude? Not just this video but on most of these videos.
The doc doesn't mention some things that made it so gruesome. Tim was also shot in the head from about 15 feet away with the .44 so one can only imagine. That lady on the phone is hysterical for very good reason. They pulled many bone fragments from each of their skulls out of the ceiling of the Diner and blood and brain matter were splattered throughout the restaurant, or a good part of it. It was so horrific of a scene that while most customers fled leaving all their belongings there was still many diners who were catatonic and unable to move. On the way out White also said, "Merry Christmas, mother fuckers." Another gery sad part that isnt mentioned is that Cara's Father was a Asst. State Attorney here in Des Moines at rhe State Attorney General's office who heard about the shooting on his radio and rushed to the scene. Though the police tried their best to keep him from seeing his daughter he pushed past them into the crime scene. Very sad. Its also thought that because of his pull the Feds had him put in the Florence Supermax. The new Drake University stadium was named after Cara McGrane to honor memory. Oh, another thing they don't mention, and get wrong, actually, is that when he approached Cara at the register she didn't say, "What are you doing," but apparently thought he was pranking her and she started laughing and being dismissive which, it's speculated, may well have been what set him off.
I do hope the terrible woman who answered the 911 was fired… horrible attitude when a shocked bystander calls for help!
I really wish i could go back in time to the late 80s - early 90s just to be able to live life again. Our country and were we live was a much better place. It just felt that those times where better, maybe because i was a child then but it just felt different
Me too so bad😢
My family was broke as fuck in that time. There's no need to go back 😊
There was a lot of serial killers and child abductions at that time. You just didn't hear about it as much because there was no on demand news access
We do hear about it more now
These “Hometown Tragedy” episodes are perfect. Did they ever have these episodes on television?
I hope this dispatcher had the opportunity to hear herself.
That boy did it. No one wants to admit that their child would do this. Wake up people. It is a different world.
This seemed more like a hit job than a robbery.
Aries: how do you figure..??
@@tomreedyjr3631 it sounds like the person walked into a crowded diner and shot the two people they intended to shoot and left.
I believe they knew who killed them. Seems VERY FISHY
These stories are very interesting. The editing on these is top notch as well. Great stuff.
Why are so many of the 911 operators so stinking rude?
Because they are supposed to get as much information about what's happening in the fastest amount of time to help the police do their jobs. It is hard to do this when people are (naturally) freaking out and while you'd like for them to be Mother Theresa during a tragedy, they have to be very direct and to the point.
Good question!!!🙏🤔
thanks for the upload
I was waiting for the video to end off with telling us how they found out who the actual killer was & the kid (now grown ass man) was finally set free after 30+ years
great channel, great videos, visuals and sound..nice...so many crime channels have no clue how to upload videos lol...glad you do! thanks
I wonder why they left out the fact that Joseph White bragged about committing the murders?
LOVE IT. " COMMUNITY ACTIVIST". Means he doesn't have a job and is a rabble rouser...
That thug should never be released from prison!
Lock him up with those school shooters. Privileged kids
I cringe every time I hear these rude 911 operators. She was impatient from the git-go!!! No excuses.
That 911 operator should've been FIRED.
The 911 operator is more panicked than the caller. I’m sure this was used as an example of how not to handle reports.
The 911 operator should have been fired!
May the killer burn in hell. I had to tell Tim's twin about the murders and he never recoverd from the tragedy RIP Tim and Lyle
This was very touching!
Idk why but for some reason this channel leaves out the key parts of the story!! Like the 8 family member massacre. I still don't kno how them folks got caught
Such a sweet, compassionate 911 operator. 😡
the diner was "fun and hip". 😂
I remember when this happened. My father was a uniformed DMPD at the time. He said the handgun (a Grizzly) caused so much damage there was hydrostatic shock.
Controversial concept.
@@OrangeySky11more than a few biophysicists do not consider hydrostatic shock a controversial concept.
Love this show ❤😂
What's my favorite crime channel? Hometown Tragedy of course!!.💓
This is the first video of yours that I've come across and 1 minute in I've subscribed. Hoping you've got more for me to watch as insomnia wins tonight.
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@@VeryLocal I stumbled your channel yesterday I been binge watching Greeting from London.
I am shocked! I've been to the Drake Diner more than few times and never heard about this until now!
Why would you, they want you to eat there!!!🙏😢⚖️
Same reason i vacationed at a haunted hotel and no one told me about THAT either.
Heartbreaking. May the Lord give peace to her fam. I am a Murray from south africa and to see a father so devastated breaks your heart. Fred is a family name for us. Will keep on praying for you all. God bless you.🛐😢✝️
One of THE most POWERFULIST hand guns in the world!!lol
Wow! What a Rude operator..She seemed not to like her job.No compassion Those poor innocent people who got killed. Innocent people in there to
Thank you for show casing this horrible tragedy, senseless and selfish crime. Hard to believe it was 34 year's ago. Love from Iowa❤
At first i read your comment as "Thank you for causing this horrible tragedy" i had to reread hahaha
The evidence is convincing that it was him and his story was too hard to believe
Top notch documentary type film, well done, RIP to the victims
I wish the 911 operator had been compassionate, at ALL. That was so horrible!
That is one ignorant 911 operator, I hope she was fired😡
Sounds like the 911 operator is annoyed. Also sounds like she didn't like her job !
She did her job and sent the help needed. That is her job, she is not a therapist for hysterical people.
People saying the 911 operator was "cruel" ....stop and THINK. The caller was HYSTERICAL. The operator had to cut thru that and get the girl to focus. "There there honey" is NOT going to do that.
Today this probably wouldn't even make the headlines or at least not for more than a day. It would be: At the breakfast table: "There's been another public shooting". "Oh yeah? How many dead this time?" "Two". "Oh well, ho hum, nothing to get excited about then. Pass the salt please."
What a story. Enjoyed but sad to my heart.
i got pissed with 911 operator just to call an ambulance she was asking so many stupid questions when the victim is almost dying and this situation the operator tell her to calm down wow....i would be gone mad to wild
First one of your videos I’ve seen and man alive does this hit close to home, I remember it.
Watching from Philippines
6:43 what a heart wrenching moment to see :(
Im starting to believe it was the 911 operators son who did it. There i said it.
Such rude 911 operators! Wow...
How'd I know? Predictable as a sunset.
Oh please
RIP dear soul's 🙏 may God comfort you the survivors. I pray those who are guilty. Find you God.
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‼️Omg to the operator “Ma’am you are the problem, you need to calm the fuck down and do your job”. I doubt many citizens would be able to remain calm after witnessing someone being murdered. Either way, RIP go those two souls who lost their lives that day and everyone else affected by this tragedy. Even the man convicted if he is truly innocent ❤
6 ads in in 16 minutes. That's ridiculous. The content is good but treating the viewers like that is scummy.
If I was beloved and missed by my community after a senseless killing I would hope they’d honor my memory with more than just a Christmas ornament. How about a booth or a bench or a cocoa special that donates some portion of the sale to a local charity? I get they don’t want the notoriety but c’mon.
Not everyone has such an inflated ego coupled with a lack of marketing skills.
That dispatcher was rude !!!
Good story. Hard to know if they got the right guy or not, though. But I'm glad the community has healed.
911 operator snapped what an attitude she had!
Dispatchers with no compassion SHOULD BE FIRED, there is no reason for their rudeness, when these people need compassion & information in a time of crisis.
I lived at an apartment house in the early 80's that was sitting right where the Drake Diner would be built a half decade later. My bedroom was basically right where the diner sits.
I came here to comment on the awful 911 operator. guess I'm not alone.
I hope that daughter sought treatment bc seeing people murdered is NOT a movie, or a T. V. show...And yes, race will come into play - this is the country we live in - but some don't like to admit or address.
Treatment for what? Who said anything about a TV show or a movie?
@@janepeters7927 Did you watch the segment??
Race had to play. The shooter was black!
They almost surely needed it. The doc doesn't mention that Tim was also shot in the head from about 15 feet away with the .44 so one can only imagine. That lady on the phone is hysterical for very good reason. They pulled many bone fragments from each of their skulls out of the ceiling and blood and brain matter were splattered throughout the restaurant, or a good part of it. It was so horrific of a scene that while most customers fled leaving all their belongings there was still many diners who were catatonic and unable to move. On the way out White said, "Merry Christmas, mother fuckers."
People are so RUDE!!!!
Why do some people always say "that doesn't happen here". Guess again.Iowa!!
That 911 operator should have compassion and patience to be working in a job like that. She was really rude.
That crude operator was fired..... Right?
What’s the problem that person should be fired
I cannot stand when people say "this doesn't happen here". Bad things happen everywhere. Nowhere is 100 percent safe, or crime free. It may not be common for an area but murder does happen everywhere. Where there are humans there is crime.
"The murder was not necessary at all" .... um, when is murder ever necessary??
"Murders don't happen in places like Des Moines, Iowa..."
Am I missing something? It's a cheesy enough cliche when people say that about tiny little towns where everyone knows everyone but last time I checked Des Moines was a state capital lol. Am I supposed to believe there is any city of over 100 000 people in the US that HASN'T had a murder???
Incompetent 911 operator.Just ask location and send immediately police there as it is v clear smth bad is happening and it is an emergency.
"Calm down" "What's going on" .....bla bla bla.
Outraging.
After having sent the police to the address one can go on asking if it doesn't put the caller in danger or at least remain connected.But action comes first.
P.S. who would invite such individuals to a party ? And then ,having guns in the home and risking them been stolen but any dumbo that enters the place.
Unbelievable.There's a saying: " tell me who you are mingling with and I tell you who you are ".
The owners of the stolen gun have also some part of responsibility.
Sir if witnesses talked then they know who killed all these people.
Right on George!! You took his ass to the cleaners!! I've been a fan for a long time !! You definitely have the cajones!!! Love your show! Keep on being successful haters gonna hate. !!
Always these rude 911 operators who k ow nothing of how to handkerchief emergency calls🤬Get rid of them or train them!!
If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck and looks like a duck, blame the duck for the stereotype !
The lowest common denominator strikes again!!
Diverse is 60% white and 40% left to split between all other races? 😂😂I bust out laughing when he listed the race stats 😂😂😂
That's some creative mental gymnastics.
Have you been to Iowa? Typically how Dispatch in Iowa treats people. You could be fresh shot and they would tell you to calm down or to relax. They simply don't care about people, they care about keeping the job and that's it. Should meet iowa state patrol if you think the dispatcher is bad. They are some of the meanest people I've ever met for simply going 5 over. Crazy how much power goes to your head, seems like it's mainly in Iowa with how shocked people act.
Right on, page two the rest of the story!!!🙏🤔⚖️
Nah, they're like that in every single state. I've found the higher up they work like if they're state they're pretty bad but oh boy the Feds are even worse as far as power abuse.
Sour grapes
Oh boo hoo. It's like that in every state, they see out of town plates, it's a donation to the state. Grow up
hey so sad story but happy they got the right guy . and he
did it for the money wow two people.dame. glad he is locked up the police department got it right .so all those people family was wrong . and only 17 dame wasted life . 😳👮Rip to the man and woman just trying to do their job bless u amen🙏🙏