I'm gonna be completely honest I didn't even know Sucrose took his spot xD It was just a power jump way too high for my brain. Chongyun directly to Raiden
True the base team is so strong that anyone can be good here even barbruhh can be an ok option but back then sucrose was used because of her em and anemo NA and cc raiden just solved there er problome and is waaaay better then Chungyun and sucrose
Chongyun is like that one friend left behind, while all his friends (Xiangling, Xingqiu, Hu Tao) graduated at the top of their class and got a great job/life.
That sadly makes sense given that Everyone else does do some rather "extra" things like adventuring, owning a business, and so on... Meanwhile Chongyun is basically just dragged into what little plot he's been involved in by someone bigger. He's like a small fish in a big pond basically.
I think it's cuz a lot of people have him at this point. While he's niche he's not bad. It's like he's not bad enough to complain about but not good enough to sing his praises. So it's just like "yeah he's here too if ya want" Shame he got booted from the national team though.....
Hyv really did my boy so dirty like Why would u make a shatter reaction if its gonna make everything worst? Althou he is supposed to deal dmg he has one of the lowest base atk and multiplier in game (even lower than actual) support), the first ever cyro artifact doesnt pair well with him due to shatter erasing cyro infusion.... despite all this hyv actsully still nerf him pre-release 😢 and never got buff Well those were my early day agony while maining him...now im AR59 but i still use him as main dps in every situation except abyss floor12 ... with auntie shenhe by his side and kazuha he hits like a trucj and can 1-2 shot almost any boss
Chong Yun specializes in supporting Cryo DPS by converting their normal attacks into cryo. The problem is that the best cryo DPS characters like Ganyu or Ayaka can already do that on their own. He has the same problem that Qiqi has - being too good at something that isn't really needed.
Talk for yourself, I need that cryo application for another team in the Abyss rooms with Abyss lectors. And I don't have Ganyu and not that interested in her either, tbh.
@@annanas9122 I had Ganyu for a year thinking “idc she’s meh”. Then I saw a video of her potential and she’s been my main DPS for months. 60-70k crits on each charged attack (after the first) is just so strong. You should look into it, she’s insane. edit: to be clear I’m talking initial hit PLUS frostflake damage, so the ol’ 1-2 punch… arrow
I still find it funny that when you pair him or Xingqiu with Amber, due to how fast she applies pyro, with good timing you can melt or vape 100% of their spirit blades / rainswords for ridiculous damage. It's a super niche thing but they're mostly the reason why Amber was banned in the CN speedrunning community.
You actually don’t have to pair him with Amber to melt all his spirit blades. The pyro application from a single Bennet’s burst is actually enough. You can refer to his nuke comps for example.
@@bleacher3338 Having 2U pyro from bennet does indeed let you triple-melt, but with chongyun c6, chongyuns burst deals 4 instances of damage. The situation you described would only let the first three melt, while the last hit would not inflict an elemental reaction
@@bleacher3338 This was news to me so I decided to check it out to see who is wrong. Checked out hyoudachi, found a chongyun video where he did claim quad melt, however he didn't actually do a quad melt in that video, he did one melt (and then the enemy died), and then calculated that if all hits crit and melted then it would be the damage he claimed. Obviously that wasnt really very satisfactory. Mathematically, I'm skeptical of your claim that melt only removes 0.5U, as in actual effect, I was under the impression it removed 0.75U (assuming tax is taken into account, which it always should be), which would mean 2-0.75*3=-0.25 (No element). I still wanted to be sure however so I checked kqm and did find something interesting showing that we were both kinda wrong. If we do your setup, and then aoe swirl pyro off of the enemy and one other entity, this would actually increase the strength of the pyro enough for chongyun to do a quad melt (with Jean or kazuha burst then you swirl yourself as well, meaning that player + enemy counts as enough entities, with other characters you would need an additional enemy) So yeah sorry for the rant, but from my research it seems that while the situation you described wouldnt work, you wouldnt need amber either, as anemo should be enough, so we were both kinda wrong
I must say, Chongyun and Xingqiu carried me through the early AR. They make a great freeze team. But Chongyun has been underestimated as a Cryo DPS in early AR for quite a long time now. In addition to that, in the later AR, Chongyun just simply can't compare to the top cryo DPS in terms of stats number bc he's a 4*. And second, there isn't enough content for his abilities to shine, Ayaka has her own Cryo infusion, Eula usually focus on Physical damage and Ganyu uses a bow :v Maybe future characters will help my boy shine I don't know. But I gotta say, for F2P, Chongyun is definately worth building.
yeah and out of those two, only Xingqiu is remembered now (along with Xiangling, who is also his friend), while Chongyun is forgotten. Its like seeing your friends graduate and get a job while you're stuck in life
I find myself using chongyun for teams where i want to build a full cryo damage character like rosaria or kaeya, allowing them to become the main dps while running cryo damage bonus, like a melt rosaria with xiangling and chongyun giving the infusion, plus the benefits of cooldown reduction. Other than that he is not at a level where he can compete if you already have any other cryo unit, actually not even against kaeya since he can maintain his burst while swapping character
Chongy-boy was the appeal Genshin had for me when I first saw his design, I longed him for about 3 months after starting my playthrough, and once I got him it felt hella good. He was my main DPS for my first 6 months of play, and helped me in abyss when I aimed for 18 stars only. Once I got Raiden, he was benched tho. I just got his last 2 cons this banner and I'm testing him out with the best set I could use in my account. He doesn't disappoint tbh. Currently waiting for his auntie's rerun to bust him even further. 🛐
That's the problem with chongyun, he has no perfect artifact set that could maximize his potential. Even 4 set cryo won't work on him because he shatter frozen enemies, basically he works like Fischl (Pop him out to do his E and leave immediately, except Fischl could do sub dps at the same time) Pairing him with kuki isn't going to work too, because superconduct lowers PHYSICAL resistance, not CRYO resistance. And his basic attack is converted to cryo. Happy crying TwT
I'm kinda disappointed when mihoyo did not show chongyun on shenhe's archon quest. All his screen time as of now just puts him as just the guy who hangs out with Xingqiu and not much to show his individuality. He has a hangout event but everyone has that and I'm guessing that most played that only for the primos and achievement. Team building-wise, what I think is another factor that holds Chongyun back is that he is a character you build around, not someone you can freely use as a flex slot despite having supportive capabilities.
yeah I didn't understand why they didn't put him in Shenhe's quest, like if anyone should've gotten some screentime in that quest I thought her nephew would be it.
I use to play him in abyss. he was my best hybro abyss herald shield breaker until I got ayaka, he carried me for almost an year and my first 4 star excluding noelle. He's worth building specially for F2P players who doesn't have alot of options against those abyss heralds.
I agree, and honestly he doesn't even need to be built. I don't have Ayaka/Ganyu so I add him to my Itto team on the abyss floors that need it. The other 3 characters do enough damage that Chongyun doesn't need to contribute any damage anyway. He's completely unbuilt except for having a sacrificial greatsword for more E spamming.
As a Chongyun main who's remained faithful to this popsicle boi, it's such a shame to see his inability to keep up with new cryo characters. When I got Ayaka a year ago, it was so sad seeing how much stronger she was (granted Chongyun was a 4 star and was mean to be a support character). Chongyun is a character I immediately got attached to, and I really hope he and these other weaker characters get some type of buff.
well, as both a chongyun and ayaka main they don't really clash with each other as Ayaka is almost exclusively played in freeze teams while chongyun is better for melt/reverse melt. the new abyss cycle also buffs claymore dmg so its nice to see my chongyun actually keeping up with ayaka haha
I'm main Chongyun also an Ayaka simp, so I pair them on Abyss even on floor 12 and their combo are really great, Chongyun's skill E provide and extra cooldown for Ayaka's skill, giving aspd and moreover reduce enemy res on Cryo when the last blade on his skill E struck the enemy (yes my Chongyun are c6 so that's why I love him) My team are : Ayaka, Chongyun, Ayato and Diona, such blessing edit : forget to mention my Chongyun also equipped with WGS with giving more extra damage when enemy below 30% lol
Chongyun is my main since AR 5-10 since I got him in the starters banner. I got a special atachment to him since, not gonna lie, I binged all that a lvl 1 friendship character could tell you because I thought he was amazing and cute looking. But as it looks they really limited him a lot. If you notice, his normal attack is the weakest of all claymores, something that is paired witth the fact that he does 90% of the time cryo damage. They gave him really small bonus since he can be a DPS, wich in my case he is. His blades are easyly evaided but you can trigger them really frequently. A diference that I see with someone as Hu Tao, I don't really know her kit I might be wrong, is that is burst, even if it CRITS isn't really noticeble. Only one of the blades would CRIT, while Hu Tao's ultimate, since is only 1 hit, a CRIT is devastating. Also, as a lot of 1.0 characters, he might seen as obsolete like Klee or Diluc. Well Klee was added later, but you know what I mean. Most of the 1.0 characters aren't used anymore. I personally think that heis more built as a DPS, beging his support option tecnically usefull, but opacated by anothers DPS habilities. I hope we get an event where we can get something to buff him up and bring attention to him, since he only got a hangout that non lore lovers did fast without caring for primos. His lore is actually cool, but he wasn't sell like other characters and his kit is kinda obsolete. Maybe an event about Xiao, Hu Tao, Shenhe and Chongyun would kinda elevate his popularity :)
I don’t think Chongyun needs buffs actually. He’s ok where he’s at, and I main him lol. He’s underrated against Hydro and Electro abyss heralds, that’s for sure
I still use chongyun for exploration, he smashes crystal chunks in just 3 strikes compared to other claymore users who takes 4 strikes. Also paired him with Bennett and Xiangling and Heizou... Heizou can easily swirl his cryo application for the declension stack. Fun to use in exploration.
It honestly breaks my heart knowing how little love Chongyun gets. He was pretty much my very first main and because of that I’ve always adored him. Even after I changed mains, I still had a soft spot for Chongyun and I still do after all this time. I get why not many people play him, but at the same time I wish that people at least where able to get to know him as a character. I know it’s probably never going to happen, and I should probably just accept the hangout and forget about it. But still, I truly hope that mihoyo will one day, maybe just maybe, have an actual event starring Chongyun. I mean- it’s not like he’s a boring character, I would genuinely love a event all about hunting ghosts or something like that. Just give my boy some love, you gave Xinyan some as of recent, so do the same for Chongyun, Mihoyo.
Tru, i main chongyun when i still new player. Now though i dont use him anymore, i make sure him having good artifacts, weapon, and levelling him up to 90 tho ppl said it useless bcs i dont care. I love him and i thankful for him for help me in earlier days 💙
6 months later still nothing.. And dammit they made an event revolving around ghost.. sadly it was in inazuma.. They should at the very least pair him up with Hu Tao whenever Halloween is near..
Good video, but you failed to mention how Chongyun's viability changed with Shenhe's release. The two of them form a PERFECT COMBO on MANY levels: - Shenhe's main strenght is the usage of her skill, wich Chong's CD reduction helps maintain and even overlap. - Shenhe's Press Skill buffs 5 instances of cryo damage and Skill/Burst damage, Chong deals exactly 4 hits on his burst and 1 on his skill. - Chong's Cryo infusion allows the WHOLE TEAM to use Shenhe's Quills, even non-cryo units. Honestly feels like Shenhe was made to specifically buff Chong.
Yes exactly, I thought that the release of Shenhe was just Hoyo indirectly buffing Chongyun (and Ayaka). She gave the popsicle boy so much more use and potential!
@@ryzhik9608 actually it is a big deal. I ran Chongyun-Xingqiu freeze team when I was low AR and watching enemies constantly freeze and unfreeze is pretty disorienting. It screws you up big time. I would rather run melt or even mono Cryo
I'm so proud to say that no matter the fact that I have some good built meta characters, chongyun is still one of the characters i use the most. I fell in love with his design the first time I got him last year ago and I've been building him to perfection ever since. So far his charged can go up to 25k and his brust up to 35-40k with no buffs when he crits. He deserves so much more and I hope hyovse will give him the recognition he deserves
@@primmaymani 2 pieces blizzard, 2 shimenawa and serpent spine as weapon. He's c6 and triple crowned too 👑 I just got real luck with his artifacts haha! I'm so glad to see another dedicated chongyun main! Let's have fun and make our popsicle boy the strongest 💪
Perfect timing with the banner.. the pain I just experienced was getting twice as many ittos as chongyun.. my chongyun needs constellations.. I played chongyun as a support to diluc.. I accidentally pulled auntie and well now chongyun is my best boy and diluc is in the basement
does diluc override chongyun's infusion? or is the cryo infusion the one that has higher priority? cause if chong overrides diluc you're probably wasting that pyro damage.
@@cleenash Chongyun cannot override Diluc but that also makes the team pair kinda useless. It would be fun if Diluc could melt all of Chongyun's hits but he actually can't since his own claymore is infused with pyro & overrides Chongyun. I actually used to play Diluc + Chongyun when I first started the game xDDD But Xiangling would have been a wayyyy better pair. She could melt all his cryo infusion atks with her burst/Guoba Except unfortunately, Ei is a better teammate for that team
You could still use your Diluc in their team, actually! I’ve been having a blast infusing Diluc’s melee attacks and doing one tick of his E, an infused cryo hit, and so on. It’s just free melts all around ✨
I'm excited. I did one of those challenges where you have to main the unit you pull first. I pulled chongyun and at first I was really disappointed, but then I realized he can be really strong. Now I have a melt chong that hits 80k per blade in his burst and his artifacts could be quite a bit better. He deserves more recognition as a 4*.
@@kaga.mine. I run him with full EM Sucrose, Crowned bennett with aquila favonia and Xiangling to apply more pyro. I use 4pc glad on him since I also want his normals to melt consistently and the damage ramps up over time. I had no trouble in the abyss. R3 serpent spine(can't wait to r5 it) 2300 atk 80 em(he gets most if his em from sucrose, but he could use more) 70% crit rate 170% crit dmg. I'm sure I can get up to 200% crit dmg with better rolls. This team has cleared some abyss chambers faster than my melt ganyu team on my main account. Edit: He had less crit dmg than I thought oops. Changed it from 180 to 170.
@@aurorasurrealis1032 wow, thats really impressive! honestly hope my chongyun reaches stats like those, my artifact rng is...something. I run 2pc glad and 2pc blizzard with the fish weapon because i use him as a support. you have a great dps build for him
13:50 I feel like Chongyun's power disparity is quite simple. Hoyoverse overvalued Infusion too much pre-launch. While Bennet also offers Pyro Infusion, they considered it valuable enough to make it his C6, and yet it's still one of few constellations in the game people won't enable due to it possibly screwing up team compositions. So Chongyun's minimal party buffing is because they thought infusion was a good enough selling point on its own, but as we've seen, it really isn't. Hell, it's obvious this was their logic for all of 1.X, since even when we got the first self-infusions with self-buffs, they came with downsides (The HP Drain for Xiao and Hu Tao, Tartaglia's skill ceiling/cooldown shenanigans). It wasn't until 2.0 that we started getting characters with innate self-buff infusions with no downsides. And no, Yoimiya not being as good as Hu Tao does not count as a downside. It would also explain why most early catalysts are just kinda wonky, because Hoyoverse figured that always doing elemental damage was strong enough to warrant undertuning. (Except Sucrose)
I get the feeling that when they test characters, they do so at level 90 with full EM builds to make sure they aren't broken. But because EM is a rare artifact drop and getting to 90 requires a lot of resources, most players will never reach those heights and thus reaction-based abilities end up far weaker than they're tested for. Hoyoverse simply out of touch with the resources required to play their own game, which is also why the game is so expensive.
@@normal6483 I think you're on to something on your hypothesis on how they test their characters, seeing that Kuki Shinobu only worked decent when she had a full EM build.
Ironically, Ningguang was very capable of dishing out some absurd damage. Enough 5 digit multihit to machinegun bosses in seconds. She also wasn't undertuned. Arguably Barbara too when you look at it. Busted healing (even for people that use it) and one of the strongest charge hit % attacks in the game. But since the community has a meta fetish, they tend to overlook these two facts.
Chongyun’s team infusion itself can’t even be a selling point because it gets so easily overridden or ignored. Almost every 5* hypercarry has their own form of sustained infusion which completely replaces his. (And if they don’t, they’re Eula and don’t want Chongyun’s E anyway.) Those carries want buffers and deployable burst supports, which leaves poor Chongyun with hardly a chance to shine. And when they would want Chongyun to help with say hydro shields, they don’t even need him to be remotely built. It’s honestly just pretty sad.
I feel like the thing with Chongyun is that he’s actually really strong,his abilities are good,his passives are good and his constellations are good to the point where i dare say that if what he does was actually needed he would be a Bennett tier character but…as already stated no one actually really needs him,his role is currently completely useless and even worse he’s not a "just slap him in" character like Zhongli because a lot of characters even have negative synergy with him :/
i think he would be a lot better if there was a toggle for the cryo infusion. like when you hold skill you get a cryo infusion, when you press skill you get a different buff like cryo dmg bonus, atk, crit dmg, just something. his c2 and last ascension stat make him a pretty good cryo dps support but rn shenhe outshines him by a large margin. if he was more versatile i think people would use him, but his skill just ruins a lot of comps.
@@ATMEIDAREYAIDOUBLEDAREYA exactly, we already have dps cryo builds for rosaria, shenhe, kaeya, etc, or melt bennett, but those are pretty niche comps. a good thing about him tho is that you don't need to invest in him at all if you just want him as a cryo infusion + c2 support. you can leave him at lvl 1 if u want and he gets the job done
I mean, with all due respect, saying "If what he does was actually needed..." is quite a ridiculous way of putting it. Of course any unit is crazy good if what they do is exactly what is needed ingame. That's a bit of a given. Lastly I feel like he's too much of a mix. His cons mix dps and supportive abilities, his burst is clearly nuke-dps oriented while his skill is rather support oriented and his weapon type makes it so you want to avoid having him be the one benefiting of his skill. Feel like they couldn't decide between making him a dps 4* or a support and that's what resulted in his weird spot
I mean, I’m still using Chongyun. 1. Drip 2. Personality 3. Voice 4. Screw the Meta 5. Favorite Fighting Style out of all Claymores (Granted, I know he would be better as a Sword or Polearm like other people are saying, but I gotta respect him for being able to elegantly jump with it 3 times) I love him so much in his Hangout Event, honestly. And I can’t forget his appearances in Moonlight Merriment and especially Fleeting Colors in Flight. “It’s definitely dangerous to infiltrate an enemy area like that. If only I was there to fight alongside you…” The moment I heard this line, I made a vow to keep on using him no matter what anyone says.
Honestly I actually think Chongyun is pretty good. Personally I don’t know shite about team building and my team consists of [Klee, Bennett, Fishl, Chongyun] or [Beidou, Xiao, Bennett, Chongyun]. Both works fine for me and Chongyun provides pretty decent Cryo damage and the elemental reactions does some decent damages.
Yes,I played his hangout for primo and one thought quickly come into my mind.I must make him my dps no matter what! I am very happy to use him now.He is strongest in my team.Too sad because he didn't appear in any event.
I have my Chongyun at level 50 and my team comp is Traveler (Any element but currently Anemo), Yoimiya, Chongyun, and Barbara or Noelle depending on my situation I personally think he's a good dps if you can get a good grasp of what he does best
With the introduction of Shenhe, Chongyun's popularity has gotten a sizeable boost - both due to exposure from Shenhe's character demo and stories, and because of his cryo infusion ability. I've seen several meme-teams with Shenhe, Chongyun, another support, and a main dps with very fast normal attacks (like qiqi or Zhongli) and surprisingly those work really well
I have only used him in trail events, and I understand why he isn't that used anymore: He can't synergise that well with anyone anymore. So oddly enough, he excels in Mono Cryo teams, and what's even more odd is how good he sounds on paper with Aunt Shenhe. Y'know, since his Aunt solely boosts Cryo attacks, and Chongyun can decrease Skill and Burst CD, it feels like Shenhe was made to solve her nephew's issues... At the cost of her being *really* niche too.
as a loyal Chongyun main who plays him since the first day i play this game, i'm really intrigued my boy can do no wrong in my eyes upd: a little storytime i got Chongyun from Noelle banner on my first day of playing, and initially, when i was not so keen on game's basics, i combined him with Razor which is the most popular mistake with these guys. i was messing around without any building until i got my first 5*, Tartaglia. and while i was grinding artifacts for him, i got lots of amazing pieces for Chongyun on the way. also, standard banner kinda helped me by giving two skyward blades which would be a loss, but Chongyun is just fine with it, his already cheap ult becomes spammy and his attack stat is going up and up. rn i have him at 2,2k attack, 50/148 crits and 150% er love to use him with Xingqiu or in melt comps
Oh my samee I got him through noelle's banner and my second 4-star since I got amber as my first but anyway he's still in my team and I can do he's e at 8k and I'm good with that.
omg me too i got him when i found out the gacha existed it was on my second starter pull i got Nigquang and chongyun 2 characters i really liked the design
I'm really excited for future Ningguang episode. In theory she checks all the boxes of the exact opposite of the type of characters vars puts in those videos. She comes up in the story constantly, she has attractive design, her gameplay is one of the smoothest in the game (assuming you animation cancel) and she has a niche role of geo dps. And yet, very few people play her, probably because similarly to Yanfei she needs high investment to reach peaks of her performance and she's kinda stuck at Zhongli's hip, since he's essentially required for her to function (although arguably it's not necessary a Ning problem but more so a Geo problem).
She's probably the Geo character hit hardest by her own element. There are no reactions that increase her damage, and she offers nothing but Geo resonance and her screen's Geo damage buff to the rest of the team. So she's best on Geo teams, but she's a rare Geo character who doesn't scale with Defense, which means she gets little benefit from Gorou. She's simply the worst character for your Geo team, but Geo teams are where she shines brightest. It's a rough place to be.
@@normal6483 @Normal as a ningguang and geo main i must disagree with some of your points, although yes she is indeed one of two geo charas that don't scale off def ning *does* benefit from gorou's geo bonus and she can also buff her own geo dmg with her jade screen and if you don't zhongli its not that hard to get geo resonance with her crystilize shields; personally you can do a full geo team where you use both gorou's skill and hers to buff her and if you have itto you can buff him and use ning while you wait for itto's burst to be ready; will ning ever be able to do, say, 100k+ dmg per screenshot? nope but if you have a c2 ning you can manage to do that by making 50k+ x2 dmg because shes a *consistent* damage dealer and her kit revolves around multiple jades/hits so you never realize how much damage she does with her charged attacks and burst until you effortlessly delete every single enemy (say you do 10k+ per jade, you get 6 jades with her burst thats 60k+ damage and a well built ning can easily do 20k+ dmg per jade) so tbh other than geo resonance and benny/pyro resonance she doesnt really need anything else shes a beast on her own
@@btsxnshine6354 It took me a long time to really start putting resources into Ning… Only started a short while ago. But a mono-geo team with her, Gorou, Zongli and Noelle I’m noticing can essentially wipe ANY enemy out! This team is just about the only one I can blindly hit “go” with and know they’ll be capable of doing the job, whereas with the other teams one always needs to think about the elemental interactions and requirements. … These days, if I’m too lazy to switch out teammates to create a team for a particular domain I just page on over to this one and let the star-jades fly!
Actually, i don't really see how she would need zhongli anyway given geo already makes shields, plus her screens even act like projectile defense. Don't get me wrong, zhongli makes any comp tanky, but it's also overkill with a geo that's on the field most of the time like Noelle or Ningguang. I feel like she'd be better with Yunjin since you're already doing essentially normal attacks with Ningguang a lot. There's probably others that could work alongside her too to still get that geo resonance.
I got Chongyun while trying for Xiao and ended up loving him unexpectingly. I always chose to keep him on my team during the Perilous Trails event because of how comfortable I am with him. Mans is my number 1. Hope his next rerun is with a 5 Star I truly want cause I’d love to get him to C6.
In retrospect it's really kinda sad that they gave Chongyun a relatively rare ability to make anyone a Cryo damage dealer, and then very quickly over saturated Cryo so much that you'd never need a separate character to make your dps cryo
chongyun is a great nuker with a heavy-hitting burst that is especially good at breaking elemental shields however i would say he has three main issues 1) his e skill causes cryo infusion to the active characters and can be good in certain situations but has the same problems as bennet c6. his skill also doesn't do much for ranged units like ganyu 2) his weapon has anti-synergy with his kit due to shatter 3) his kit makes it so that he is meant to played like a support or sub dps but some of his constellations require him to be the main dps to have an effect (like the one which releases 3 cryo blades after his last normal attack)
Bennet's C6 is a problem for physical characters AND Chongyun. And it's only good for Diluc and maybe Xiangling. Chongyun's infusion is great for every cryo character that isn't Diona or Ganyu. So idk
@@ryzhik9608 would even argue that his infuse is more versatile on a melee pyro that already wants to use melt That's basically just free melt for say hu tao. chongyun infuse, one single hutao normal attack, then use her burst. even xiangling could keep pyronado melts going like that.
Funny. I also ended up with C6 Chongyun before getting Shinobu. But I don't have a problem with it since I was planning on building him for her Aunt Shenhe's comp to begin with.
Chongyun was my most wanted 4* when i started the game, first triple crown and to this day one of my best built dps characters I really believe just higher na multipliers or some tweaking to the shattered reaction would basically do the trick for him since his kit is actually fairly solid. Heck, even Sayu has higher na multipliers than him and her main role is being a healer, hoyoverse just did him really dirty
Ouch, seeing this thumbnail hurts real bad 🙃 Chongyun was/is my 2nd main - first was Kaeya. I mean, I kinda knew he was a bit underused, but this video was unexpected.
This video: is a well-constructed debate over why he's not used that gives lots of logical evidence Me:(hugs Chongyun) don't worry, i'm still here for you. You'll be fine. You've still got the rest of us who still love you. On a side note, Chongyun as a DPS is actually cracked, BS/Gladiator's artifacts with Prototype is doing more damage than my friends DPS Keqing. It's insane.
The best thing about Chongyun is that his kit is versatile as hell. I don’t even need to build him that well to use him viably To put it this way, I could run a diluc, bennett, xingqiu and chongyun team in the abyss. If my diluc dies (because he is a glass cannon), well lets just say my chongyun can take over the duties.
He was one of the very first characters I got when i first started playing and is also one of the oldest remaining members on my team. Both him and xingqiu have done wonders for me together, however I do understand why he's relatively unpopular. He's in a weird place in which his kit is in this limbo between main dps and subdps/support. He seems to be damage focused, but his scalings are quite low and the fact he uses a claymore kinda ruins his opportunities for freeze. But his support capabilities are also not too impressive. He can enable cryo units that don't have a way to infuse themselves to deal cryo dmg with ncs, which is nice but overall niche, since the more powerful cryo dpses (namely ayaka and ganyu [and eula, but she's physical, so she doesn't need it]) can do it themselves and not a lot of people use the rest of the cryo group as dps. He can also enable some reactions but there are other characters that can bring more than simple cryo application. In the end i stopped trying to use him as a dps, however I still love this boy and I refuse to bench him ever, so instead i actually made him the sub dps to xingqiu (who is my actual main). How it works is that when he puts down his frost field, it allows xingqiu to freeze everything and also proc the mistsplitter's 3rd stack. This along with bennett's buffs and kazuha's support capabilities (cc, vv shred, elemental dmg buffs) make this team quite effective at dealing with chambers where there are big crowds of enemies, as everything stays frozen and I can just slice them to pieces with xingqiu's rainswords. It's a really fun team comp in my opinion, however i understand it's beyond niche
@@knownpegasus907 ah barbara can be good with him since it can trigger freeze; however razor and him clash. Chongyun overrides razor's physical attacks, therfore sabotaging his main source of damage. That is, only if you built him phys. With electro razor it should be alright I suppose, but razor is a physical dps by design In the end though, you can play with whoever you want, so if you feel like having them in a team together, that's alright! But just wanted to inform you about that negative synergy they have
10:25 despite them being basically the entire meta, i don't have ayaka, ganyu, eula or even shenhe, i wish for characters based on personality and appeal and thanks to genshin I've discovered that the calm and collected ice lady is my least favorite character archetype, so I'll be sticking with Chongyun, thank you! And yes I do have an emotional attachment to him, such an underrated character imo
YES! I found someone else who wishes for character because of their personality and not abilities and power! Edit: I also don't have shenhe, ganyu, ayaka or eula and only one of them that I want is eula because of her looks
@@katulanocteris9927 For me if the character looks cool and good gameplay then definitely pull thats why I pulled Kazuha and Itto but if the character looks not interesting/boring then definitely skip thats why i don't have those cryo girls and i don't care about Eula.
Been enjoying watching all of your videos in your “Why No One Plays” series & I knew at some point you were going to do my main, Chongyun. 🥰 It caught me off guard in my subscription box but I genuienly welcome this video with open arms! As a Chongyun Main I’m anticipating this video & looking forward to the discussion! Whether that be hearing the communites thoughts about him along with Chongyun Mains rising up to support our popsicle boy! I’ll share my Chongyun story as well & how he singlehandly made me invested in this game :) I started this game last year in February because my little sister begged me to join! Diluc was the character I wanted the most but I got Noelle and mained her instead. Genuinely I loved Noelle’s playstyle just swinging her claymore around but I didn’t really love her geo element. I eventually got The Skyward Pride but it just laid dormant. Then March came around and Chongyun suddenly came home to me. I ended up instantly loving his playstyle and his cyro vision! I equipped Chongyun with The Skyward Pride and I made him the leader of my main team. Chongyun’s cute appearance along with lovable personality actually made me excited to unlock his lore and listen to all of his voice lines! Then his hangout came out which I thoroughly enjoyed! By the time I maxed out his friendship he had already become my favorite character in the game! For real I’m dying for Chongyun to make his own impact in a real quest or event! Chongyun has been my main ever since I got him and he hasn’t left my team since! Just about everything you can do with a Character I did with Chongyun! He was my first triple crowned unit and first to have an all gold artifact set! I even got his constellation maxed out and he is spoiled with a five star weapon! Regardless of my obvious support towards Chongyun I’m curious to hear what this video has to say! :) TL;DR: I joined for my little sister & I wanted Diluc. I got Noelle and started maining her instead. Eventually I got Chongyun and he changed my entire view of the game. Chongyun has been on my main team and I still main him till this day! Chongyun has been spoiled by me ever since too. Honestly anticipating the comments this video will bring especially about the pure popsicle boy! ❤
Same, I started because of Diluc but stayed for Chongyun. I had a really rough time early game from lag bad enough to make me fail race to the destination commissions and not knowing wtf I was doing. I legit gave Ningguang EM artifacts because I thought they’d be good on catalyst users since they only do elemental attacks💀 It was honestly pretty awful and I would have quit if I didn’t pull Chongyun back then. Something about that sweet smile in his idle kept me hanging on despite my immense frustration until I fixed my lag and learned more about how to build characters and what to use resin on. He was my main til I got Diluc on his birthday last year... Now those two are Batman and Robin. My first units I triple crowned. Mainstays on my overworld team. And I always bring them to Abyss together. Got 36*s for the first time with them in 2.6 Abyss. Couldn’t be more proud. Still working on making them stronger and getting them some other supports so they can overcome DPS check Abyss with consistency. I know they’re not a meta comp and have their drawbacks, but they’re just so fun. I really hope that they’ll eventually meet in the story someday... and that Chongyun will get more central screentime to begin with. Our popsicle boy deserves a lot more love from Hoyo and that would likely translate into a larger part of the community learning to appreciate him more too.
It' kinda nice with Diluc. Standing in Chong's circle use attack, skill, attack, skill, attack, skill for an alternation of ice and fire on one character
@@gilroyscopa using his burst kinda makes chongyun pointless, and considering how easy his burst is to get back up, you’ll probably only get value out of chongyun for the first rotation
@@aperson6562 I was talking about Chong's "E" skill and Diluc standing in it alternating his basic attack with the three charges of his own "E" skill. not Chong's burst... Or where you talking more in general?
@@gilroyscopa I’m talking about diluc. Using his burst gives him pyro infusion on his normal attacks which can’t be overrides, and since you can basically have infinite uptime on the infusion, you’ll only be able to use chongyun’s cryo infusion for your first rotation where you don’t have the pyro infusion from diluc’s burst
I didnt care for Chongyun at all when I got him, but recently I did the hangout with him and it made me like him a lot. I'm now building him to replace Kaeya.
I like him because his skills are aesthetically pleasing, I have all characters and I still think that Chongyun is the most reliable Cryo applicator, useful against those abyss herald. With Shenhe, he can pull off tons of damage on a short cooldown and energy cost. But I can understand his lack of popularity...
With c2 kazuha, a burst chongyun melt team is actually very competitive among meta comps. Burst chongyun actually clears content faster than xingqiu in my xiangling bennett kazuha comp. Chongyun is all frontload damage, so if an enemy or boss moves a lot, you won’t be wasting xingqiu burst time chasing them. Chongyun melts the enemy down with a quick burst and that 40 energy cost. He is criminally underrated
i think the problem there is xiangling, she needs a lot of investment to even be good and er, without xq or shogun who is a battery most ppl would preffer other teammate than chongyun just for her, but yeah, is burst is actually very good and efficient
Why I play Chongyun 1. Skill field decreases cooldown of skills and burst cast inside, helping rotations of teams 2. Cryo Resonance 3. Using Sacrificial GS makes him a very good battery for Cryo team, and extends his cryo field time 4. Burst hits hard, can help break shields 5. Cryo infusion field allows my Kaeya to continuously apply cryo and his kit to benefits from all cryo dmg bonuses 6. Lets you get all stacks of Mistsplitter 7. One of the cons also decreases cryo resistance of enemy hit by ice sword after skill expiration
Well I’ve mained Chongyun from the beginning and will always do so no matter how many units I get I have loyalty trouble and I love him a lot no matter who is a better unit
You said he's not mentioned in the game, but he has a hangout, right? I personally like him very much, because of his story, but also because I got him very early into the game and he was my first C6 character
"Not even gonna watch the video. Just came to say: wtf are you talking about, lots of people love and play Big Chongus. I'm a Big Chongus main, half of my friend group became Big Chongus mains ever since his rerun banner, Big Chongus is awesome and strong and we do every content in the game with him with ease. "No one" plays Big Chongus, my ass." jokes asides, can't wait for this one, I first thought he was one of the most useless but always called me with his atk speed pasive and then his cooldown c2, then tried him and did wonders for kaeya permafreeze with yelan and dont get me started in the todoroki diluc team is amazing, loving the series so far
I would like to point out that in his passive talent, when his skill ability ends and attacks an enemy with a final blade, it reduces that enemy's cryo resistance, which is why the sacrificial greatsword is probably chongyun's best in slot as a support character. It's not perfect as it's harder to pull off, and ONLY reduces the cryo resistance of the enemy that was hit, as opposed to other supporting skills being less conditional, but it's worth noting. And the fact that he has a short CD burst with very low energy costs helps him utilize 4 pc nobless really well. I never gave chongyun the time of day until I played his hangout event, which I find to be one of the most amusing hangouts to play so far, and I thought he was really sweet. Didn't take long for him to be one of my top favourites.
Seeing this made me so excited because Chongyun is one of my favorite characters! When I was watching previous "Why NO ONE Plays" episodes by Vars I was thinking about if Chongyun would be a good one, and now here he is! My boy
Am a happy chongyun main- he was my first 90 character, first one with all perfect 20d artifacts and i intend to triple crown him :] even though there are much 'stronger' characters he's just fun to play :)) So this'll be interesting to see!
same here! he was my first triple crowned character and even tho i have ayaka and ganyu, i still use him a lot bc i prefer his playstyle, hes really fun!!
My poor popsicle boy. Always been a fan of Chongyun. I love using him as a budget noblesse Cryo battery. Between noblesse and his fav greatsword, Chong keeps team energy high!
I cant recall chongyun even getting screentime at all until hangout events released, and screentime after that is very little It’s unfortunate but hopefully he’ll get more screen time, like how xinyan got an event with childe that one time
Proposed changes if he ever gets buffed: -Removing requiring to play circle impact when you use his E. -keep his burst animation the same, but instead turn it Into one single hit (make him more compatible with reverse melt). -make shatter actually fuckin scale like swirl or Overload.
I honestly feel like Chongyun should have been a catalyst user. That would have made him so much more useful on freeze comps, make him pair with Xingqiu perfectly (as well as the Frostbearer which literally has no use as of now) and catalyst just fits him better than a claymore IMO, considering he's an exorcist/monk. Not much else would really need to change with his kit if he was a catalyst user, especially since he can shred cryo resistance on his own, which isn't something I've seen anyone mention yet, and he'd work amazing on a melt team with Xiangling. He would have been a great main DPS option for early game and still possibly be competitive late game as well with enough investment. On top of changing his weapon type, another good buff would be for his steady breathing talent to work on catalyst users as well, to help with some of their horrendously slow attack speed and give Chongyun higher NA scalings.
I'm pretty sure they're saving the catalyst thing for the tsartisa but claymore definately didn't suit him. 4 stars nowadays have a lot of thought put into their design and playstyle while chongyun, being an early character, doesn't have a lot of that. Mihoyo did him REALLY DIRTY LMFAO But he'd make a cool anything really. I feel like I actually like claymore for him more than a sword or a bow or a polearm because of some of the decorative and ceremonial speeds and knives some exorcists use in Chinese culture. I feel like if he was a bit more stylish, then alot of early game players would be more attracted to him
I have an issue with a lot of characters like Chongyun that have very little in terms of quest content. Like, Fischl had one limited time event for her, but if you never played that, you know next to nothing about her if you don't read a few books (assuming you don't roll her or view...artwork). Everyone should get attention, but some get more than others, sadly.
if I know correctly Hu Tao doesn't have any story involvement either. Most you will know about her is from her story quest and some cameos in events as Zhongli's boss. Kind of sad that some characters don't get enough attention.
I think Chongyun is actually great 👍 I been maining him for over a year and since then hes only getting stronger! I hope people give him a chance to shine since hes a very flexible character
I feel like he's getting really under apprciated. Chongyun is very much viable to this day. I love putting him in the Abyss with Diluc, so then it's like a free-melt-estate :D It's also oddly enjoyable to spam ults and abilities of these two without end, thanks to their low energy needs. I know it might seem like a weird pair with Diluc's own infusion, but the fact that it stays after swapping, and Chongyun's field doing extra attack at the end is crucial here I think. Also YES, Ayaka Ganyu and Raiden are indeed very popular, but still not everyone has/wants them :/
Ye, but why would you play chongyun with diluc when you can play diluc with xingqiu. He isnt under appreciated. He just isnt worth it most of the time. And in most teams, he is not really viable for the abyss. He rather steals time than helping out. I will still main him and he will forever stay as my profile icon bc he carried me through early game and I love his design.
I knew someone that did like to use Chongyun. He's got some potential, but he's also easily forgotten. Although he does work extremely well with Xingqiu for a freeze setup, or almost any hydro tbh.
This makes me nostalgic and also sad… theres so much characters (esp the ones in the beginning) that doesn’t get much love and as more and more characters come out… they get buried
He is a core member of the classic National Team but except for newer players no one uses the classic one anymore. Sucrose for an alternate but still true 4* National Team, Kazuha + Tartaglia for the International Team or Raiden for the Raiden National Team, every version better than the original. Except for that he is rather niche as not many characters benefit from Cryo infusion and the normal attack speed increase and the CD decrease aren't strong enough to be a real support unit.
I remember some people said to me that Chongyun is only a support character but the day I got him he became my main dps and people were shocked that I didn't made him as a support
Chongyun main here! You definitely layed solid points on this video. Personally I mainly use the boy model units which generally all work extremely well with him except someone like Xiao maybe cause he’s a dps and my Chong is dps built. Him, Bennett, Xingqiu and Kazuha (was sucrose) carried me through the entire game and I’ve played since launch. Tbh I never knew about Chongyun till I pulled him and was smitten to this day but I’ve always despised the fact that he’s so unappreciated, hated or left out. Justice for Yunyun he’s best boy 🥺
Keqing is the true electro archon because gameplay. She's pullable through standard/all even banners so you can get constellations year round, she has good electro application, movement enhancement that's valuable if no Venti Kazuha and she deals good dmg with charged attacks.
This is nothing but the sad truth, as a long time chongyun main i do love him with all my heart and have invested unreal ammounts of time in his build but he still underperforms my other dps's, one of them being yanfei another 4*, you did explain the whole problem of his underperformance really well, kee up the good work vars
With Shenhe in the game. It really helped his cryo DPS. Since no other character applies cryo like Chongyun can. And with this family of excorcist anyone can be a cryo DPS. I just think his design was confused. His kit suggests that he can be a dps or sub DPS. Since he does little to support besides damage. But it's not even his fault cryo characters just so happen to be some of the best. He doesn't really have a means to compete. Still I think Ganyu as a sup DPS for Chongyun is a great combination. Bennett and Chongyun make a great melt combination, especially with c6 Bennett. He's a cryo DPS, so he's a little more niche.
My main since the start until now, he's just my favourite. I'm glad i got to see some of his weak points and understand why he's not that popular, sure it stings a little when people don't know about his backstory or adorable personality but that's just how it is sometimes. thank you for this
**You said what I've been saying for years, mihoyo forgets this boi, but. Chongyun is best boi** **Personal attachment mihoyo, I do. Above any character here. Always have, always will.**
It’s simply because he’s balanced and niche. Balanced is not good enough for most Genshin players because how scarce resources are, especially if you’re a balanced 4 star. 4* units gotta be broken for players to justify building them (Xiangling, Beidou, Sucrose, Bennett, Xingqiu). He’s also niche in a sense that he will disrupt some comp, so he wont be the universal cryo DPS/battery like Shenhe, Kaeya or Rosaria.
@@ryzhik9608 Personally I’ve tried him in a freeze team as a main DPS and support, he just shatters way too much and my hydro application wasn’t able to keep up with it. If he’s in a freeze team then he can’t use his BA or CA at all
When I first started Genshin, I don't look up for best teams and such, I just enjoy spamming attacks until the enemies die so I don't know what the national team is. I even got to Inazuma without knowing who Chongyun is (I also didn't do the hang out events so I never even know he was there). He haven't appeared in any major events/story where he have some major involvements. In Liyue events, he's always just the guy that Xingqiu dragged. Chongyun is such a sweet character, if HoYoverse will never make him do more dmg, at least give him more story exposure.
8:52 ALL reactions in the game are controlled by a standard of 2.5s or 3 hit ICD. No elemental reaction has no icd, but certain atks, skills, and burst completely ignore icd.
Loyal Chongyun main here! As he’s my favorite character, he’s probably one of if not the most invested character I have in the game, even doing 100k per burst blade (total about 350k+ for the whole burst) with proper set up (oops not so subtle flex). It honestly breaks my heart when now nobody thinks about chongyun when they say national team because he really can be great with a proper build. But one thing that i do feel is weird about his kit is that his A4 passive, Rimechaser blade decreases cryo res of enemies, i just feel like its a weird time to decrease cryo res as the cryo infusions have already expired, you would only be able to use this resistance shred if you saved up your chongyun ult or other cryo characters’ skills; i find this awkward as his skill duration is too long considering that he is very quickswap oriented, i feel like it would have been useful if he would offer this resistance shred during the duration of the field although this could potentially be overpowered. in addition, while he could be a more dps oriented support for ayaka in a standard freeze team as a cryo flex, my experience pairing them together was sub-optimal at best as, while they individually can hit hard and ayaka can take advantage of the rimechaser blade passive, once again, chongyun’s skill duration AND cooldown are far too long which makes him an inefficient battery for ayaka, who needs her burst up often. I agree as well about his general absense from the game’s world, I hope he will have more hangouts! Been craving for a Shenhe-Chongyun interaction in game, hehe
I have never once played Chongyun and Xingqiu in different teams - they have the exact same exp - and with Shenhe they're extra great. I'm just attached to this kid. I see him and I'm just like "What a charming young man!"
I actually imagined if Chongyun say gave the same atk boost to characters as Bennett does but with his E, with cryo infusion on top, and Bennett's Q gave pyro infusion right at c0 We could have much more different teams with both of them, if freeze was needed, it would be Chongyun's time to shine and for vape teams there would be Bennett. Genshin meta would be Chongyun+Bennett melt teams tho XD
I remember when I first got Chongyun - I literally screamed because he was the only four-star character I ever wanted. I've been maining him ever since I got him :)
I love chongyun still to this day cause he carried me through the early AR's and he remains on my diluc team to this day cause he works really well with him. Plus I just love seeing those big ice swords slamming down on my enemies.
I rememeber when I first started playing the game, he was one of the very first characters I pulled from the gacha. I didn't really know anything about strategies, but I loved the cryo element and made him my main DPS for so many months... I've only switched him out when I decided to start building my Kaeya properly and since then I've been a proud Kaeya main. But I remember I used to have so much fun playing Chongyun and I always thought that was interesting, because claymores are slow and I prefer faster weapons (spears, swords), but I still loved to have him on my team! I'll probably build him again at some point.. I'd love a full cryo team if I manage to get Shenhe next time she's on a banner.
I love Chongyun, and I'm very thankful for Shenhe's existence for making him more viable. He sadly isn't in the best place right now, as a DPS or a support...
Chongyun was my very first character I randomly pulled very early and quickly became my main for so long and although I have ayaya I can’t completely abandon my little popsicle boy and continue to use him along with anything Shenhe :3
I know this isn’t a personal attack on Chongyun mains but the only thing you said that I agree with is his lack of appearance in story quests which is really saddening. Chongyun is literally a beast. (or at least mine is) He does SO much damage and is an amazing support when I need him to be. I only have c3 Chongyun and he already does 10k damage, which is a lot for my current level. His skill, burst, and normal attack are all staked at talent level 6 each. He is my main DPS with Kokomi and Yae Miko being his supports. (Diluc will be added to that when he comes home) All I’m saying is that if you don’t know how to use him or appreciate him then you won’t be able to witness him in full glory.
i mained chongyun until ar 54, i knew few people used him but he's just underrated, not bad. my artifacts are too trash for me to still main him but i have his cons which make him an amazing burst and skill support for ayaka. i still use him all the time he's really good!
I agree with your video, burr my main reason for not playing Chongyun is im not a fan of claymore characters in general, UNTIL Eula came out because jet attack speed is faster than other claymore characters. And Xinyan because when you crit heart attack speed is increased by 15%. Plus what's not badass about rockin out and burning enemies with a guitar pyrotechnics.
I still remember when Chongyun was a member in the original National team before Sucrose took his place.
Yeah then raiden stole everything
I'm gonna be completely honest I didn't even know Sucrose took his spot xD
It was just a power jump way too high for my brain. Chongyun directly to Raiden
I love his design. Its just when you collect an Ayaka or a Ganyu you will start building a team around them which they dont really need Chongyun
@@MantaRay117 facts
True the base team is so strong that anyone can be good here even barbruhh can be an ok option but back then sucrose was used because of her
em and anemo NA and cc raiden just solved there er problome and is waaaay better then Chungyun and sucrose
Chongyun is like that one friend left behind, while all his friends (Xiangling, Xingqiu, Hu Tao) graduated at the top of their class and got a great job/life.
I feel personally attacked by this comment.
@@christopher6600 you need to touch grass, man.
This reminds me of Hu Tao's story quest with the deceased kid watching all his friends grow apart.
That sadly makes sense given that Everyone else does do some rather "extra" things like adventuring, owning a business, and so on... Meanwhile Chongyun is basically just dragged into what little plot he's been involved in by someone bigger. He's like a small fish in a big pond basically.
@@DarkFrozenDepths he's a dedicated exorcist who is a little too good at his job
I'm excited for this one, I haven't heard people talk about Chongyun on either side of the good-or-bad scale.
I think it's cuz a lot of people have him at this point. While he's niche he's not bad. It's like he's not bad enough to complain about but not good enough to sing his praises. So it's just like "yeah he's here too if ya want"
Shame he got booted from the national team though.....
I think he’s very underrated, one of my favorite 4 stars
@@jamalhartley5863 Chongyun is in no way niche
Hyv really did my boy so dirty like Why would u make a shatter reaction if its gonna make everything worst? Althou he is supposed to deal dmg he has one of the lowest base atk and multiplier in game (even lower than actual) support), the first ever cyro artifact doesnt pair well with him due to shatter erasing cyro infusion.... despite all this hyv actsully still nerf him pre-release 😢 and never got buff
Well those were my early day agony while maining him...now im AR59 but i still use him as main dps in every situation except abyss floor12 ... with auntie shenhe by his side and kazuha he hits like a trucj and can 1-2 shot almost any boss
@@Kouku04 Do you add Xiangling with him too?
The bliss that I, a Kaeya main, felt when I used Kaeya with Chongyun, Shenhe and Xingqiu together for the first time-by far my favorite team
Fellow Kaeya main, i can totally relate 🖐
@@graycats we stan 👏👏
Yeah as a Kaeya main I want Shenhe too XD
Yay , exact team comp i use 😭
That's my dream team! For now I'm using Kaeya, Chongyun, Xianling and Bennet
Chong Yun specializes in supporting Cryo DPS by converting their normal attacks into cryo. The problem is that the best cryo DPS characters like Ganyu or Ayaka can already do that on their own. He has the same problem that Qiqi has - being too good at something that isn't really needed.
But his burst is Okay tho.
Talk for yourself, I need that cryo application for another team in the Abyss rooms with Abyss lectors.
And I don't have Ganyu and not that interested in her either, tbh.
I always have him with Kaeya and Rosaria. Also Ganyu and Ayaka are 5 stars, so pretty expensive.
@@annanas9122 I had Ganyu for a year thinking “idc she’s meh”. Then I saw a video of her potential and she’s been my main DPS for months. 60-70k crits on each charged attack (after the first) is just so strong. You should look into it, she’s insane.
edit: to be clear I’m talking initial hit PLUS frostflake damage, so the ol’ 1-2 punch… arrow
i like him with ayaka bc i hate using her sprint just to apply cryo in her sword (when her e and ult is on cd) i think he’s valuable with her
I still find it funny that when you pair him or Xingqiu with Amber, due to how fast she applies pyro, with good timing you can melt or vape 100% of their spirit blades / rainswords for ridiculous damage.
It's a super niche thing but they're mostly the reason why Amber was banned in the CN speedrunning community.
You actually don’t have to pair him with Amber to melt all his spirit blades. The pyro application from a single Bennet’s burst is actually enough. You can refer to his nuke comps for example.
@@bleacher3338 That Bennett 2U of Pyro on his burst really helps
@@bleacher3338 Having 2U pyro from bennet does indeed let you triple-melt, but with chongyun c6, chongyuns burst deals 4 instances of damage. The situation you described would only let the first three melt, while the last hit would not inflict an elemental reaction
@@bleacher3338 This was news to me so I decided to check it out to see who is wrong. Checked out hyoudachi, found a chongyun video where he did claim quad melt, however he didn't actually do a quad melt in that video, he did one melt (and then the enemy died), and then calculated that if all hits crit and melted then it would be the damage he claimed. Obviously that wasnt really very satisfactory.
Mathematically, I'm skeptical of your claim that melt only removes 0.5U, as in actual effect, I was under the impression it removed 0.75U (assuming tax is taken into account, which it always should be), which would mean 2-0.75*3=-0.25 (No element).
I still wanted to be sure however so I checked kqm and did find something interesting showing that we were both kinda wrong. If we do your setup, and then aoe swirl pyro off of the enemy and one other entity, this would actually increase the strength of the pyro enough for chongyun to do a quad melt (with Jean or kazuha burst then you swirl yourself as well, meaning that player + enemy counts as enough entities, with other characters you would need an additional enemy)
So yeah sorry for the rant, but from my research it seems that while the situation you described wouldnt work, you wouldnt need amber either, as anemo should be enough, so we were both kinda wrong
@@fridtjofjohanolderheim6213 i'm assuming the U is the "potency" of the application? where do people actually get these numbers?
I must say, Chongyun and Xingqiu carried me through the early AR. They make a great freeze team. But Chongyun has been underestimated as a Cryo DPS in early AR for quite a long time now. In addition to that, in the later AR, Chongyun just simply can't compare to the top cryo DPS in terms of stats number bc he's a 4*. And second, there isn't enough content for his abilities to shine, Ayaka has her own Cryo infusion, Eula usually focus on Physical damage and Ganyu uses a bow :v Maybe future characters will help my boy shine I don't know. But I gotta say, for F2P, Chongyun is definately worth building.
yeah and out of those two, only Xingqiu is remembered now (along with Xiangling, who is also his friend), while Chongyun is forgotten. Its like seeing your friends graduate and get a job while you're stuck in life
I just realized you could make en entire superconduct comp out of Chongyun and Kuki only and have everything you technically need.
I find myself using chongyun for teams where i want to build a full cryo damage character like rosaria or kaeya, allowing them to become the main dps while running cryo damage bonus, like a melt rosaria with xiangling and chongyun giving the infusion, plus the benefits of cooldown reduction. Other than that he is not at a level where he can compete if you already have any other cryo unit, actually not even against kaeya since he can maintain his burst while swapping character
Chongy-boy was the appeal Genshin had for me when I first saw his design, I longed him for about 3 months after starting my playthrough, and once I got him it felt hella good.
He was my main DPS for my first 6 months of play, and helped me in abyss when I aimed for 18 stars only.
Once I got Raiden, he was benched tho.
I just got his last 2 cons this banner and I'm testing him out with the best set I could use in my account. He doesn't disappoint tbh.
Currently waiting for his auntie's rerun to bust him even further. 🛐
That's the problem with chongyun, he has no perfect artifact set that could maximize his potential. Even 4 set cryo won't work on him because he shatter frozen enemies, basically he works like Fischl (Pop him out to do his E and leave immediately, except Fischl could do sub dps at the same time)
Pairing him with kuki isn't going to work too, because superconduct lowers PHYSICAL resistance, not CRYO resistance. And his basic attack is converted to cryo. Happy crying TwT
I'm kinda disappointed when mihoyo did not show chongyun on shenhe's archon quest. All his screen time as of now just puts him as just the guy who hangs out with Xingqiu and not much to show his individuality. He has a hangout event but everyone has that and I'm guessing that most played that only for the primos and achievement.
Team building-wise, what I think is another factor that holds Chongyun back is that he is a character you build around, not someone you can freely use as a flex slot despite having supportive capabilities.
It was also boring and a little cringe, by far my least favorite hangout event.
yeah I didn't understand why they didn't put him in Shenhe's quest, like if anyone should've gotten some screentime in that quest I thought her nephew would be it.
@@xalithe6293 I hope they pit him in her story quest
Idk why but the description of "the guy who hangs out with Xingqiu" is hilarious to me
I use to play him in abyss. he was my best hybro abyss herald shield breaker until I got ayaka, he carried me for almost an year and my first 4 star excluding noelle.
He's worth building specially for F2P players who doesn't have alot of options against those abyss heralds.
I agree, and honestly he doesn't even need to be built.
I don't have Ayaka/Ganyu so I add him to my Itto team on the abyss floors that need it. The other 3 characters do enough damage that Chongyun doesn't need to contribute any damage anyway. He's completely unbuilt except for having a sacrificial greatsword for more E spamming.
My first 4 star was Bennet, but Chongyun was my second. I didn’t like him because he had 15 sec skill cd
He and Ayaka were both in my team while defeating the hydro abyss herald today :D
He was my first four star as well I believe, I don’t use him but I find him adorable
I use him for heralds but at level 50 with no artifacts at all, just pair him with zhongli so he doesn't die
As a Chongyun main who's remained faithful to this popsicle boi, it's such a shame to see his inability to keep up with new cryo characters. When I got Ayaka a year ago, it was so sad seeing how much stronger she was (granted Chongyun was a 4 star and was mean to be a support character). Chongyun is a character I immediately got attached to, and I really hope he and these other weaker characters get some type of buff.
well, as both a chongyun and ayaka main they don't really clash with each other as Ayaka is almost exclusively played in freeze teams while chongyun is better for melt/reverse melt. the new abyss cycle also buffs claymore dmg so its nice to see my chongyun actually keeping up with ayaka haha
I'm main Chongyun also an Ayaka simp, so I pair them on Abyss even on floor 12
and their combo are really great, Chongyun's skill E provide and extra cooldown for Ayaka's skill, giving aspd and moreover reduce enemy res on Cryo when the last blade on his skill E struck the enemy (yes my Chongyun are c6 so that's why I love him)
My team are : Ayaka, Chongyun, Ayato and Diona, such blessing
edit : forget to mention my Chongyun also equipped with WGS with giving more extra damage when enemy below 30% lol
Chongyun is my main since AR 5-10 since I got him in the starters banner. I got a special atachment to him since, not gonna lie, I binged all that a lvl 1 friendship character could tell you because I thought he was amazing and cute looking. But as it looks they really limited him a lot. If you notice, his normal attack is the weakest of all claymores, something that is paired witth the fact that he does 90% of the time cryo damage. They gave him really small bonus since he can be a DPS, wich in my case he is. His blades are easyly evaided but you can trigger them really frequently. A diference that I see with someone as Hu Tao, I don't really know her kit I might be wrong, is that is burst, even if it CRITS isn't really noticeble. Only one of the blades would CRIT, while Hu Tao's ultimate, since is only 1 hit, a CRIT is devastating. Also, as a lot of 1.0 characters, he might seen as obsolete like Klee or Diluc. Well Klee was added later, but you know what I mean. Most of the 1.0 characters aren't used anymore. I personally think that heis more built as a DPS, beging his support option tecnically usefull, but opacated by anothers DPS habilities. I hope we get an event where we can get something to buff him up and bring attention to him, since he only got a hangout that non lore lovers did fast without caring for primos. His lore is actually cool, but he wasn't sell like other characters and his kit is kinda obsolete. Maybe an event about Xiao, Hu Tao, Shenhe and Chongyun would kinda elevate his popularity :)
I don’t think Chongyun needs buffs actually. He’s ok where he’s at, and I main him lol. He’s underrated against Hydro and Electro abyss heralds, that’s for sure
I still use chongyun for exploration, he smashes crystal chunks in just 3 strikes compared to other claymore users who takes 4 strikes. Also paired him with Bennett and Xiangling and Heizou... Heizou can easily swirl his cryo application for the declension stack. Fun to use in exploration.
It honestly breaks my heart knowing how little love Chongyun gets. He was pretty much my very first main and because of that I’ve always adored him. Even after I changed mains, I still had a soft spot for Chongyun and I still do after all this time. I get why not many people play him, but at the same time I wish that people at least where able to get to know him as a character. I know it’s probably never going to happen, and I should probably just accept the hangout and forget about it. But still, I truly hope that mihoyo will one day, maybe just maybe, have an actual event starring Chongyun. I mean- it’s not like he’s a boring character, I would genuinely love a event all about hunting ghosts or something like that. Just give my boy some love, you gave Xinyan some as of recent, so do the same for Chongyun, Mihoyo.
Tru, i main chongyun when i still new player. Now though i dont use him anymore, i make sure him having good artifacts, weapon, and levelling him up to 90 tho ppl said it useless bcs i dont care. I love him and i thankful for him for help me in earlier days 💙
I only started playing almost a month ago. But god I wishhh he will come on a banner soon I want him on my team so bad 😭😭
@@camrynjj6814 You can get him on the standart banner
Apparently you can get chongyun in this year's lantern rite so I'm gonna get him there 🐢
6 months later still nothing..
And dammit they made an event revolving around ghost.. sadly it was in inazuma..
They should at the very least pair him up with Hu Tao whenever Halloween is near..
Good video, but you failed to mention how Chongyun's viability changed with Shenhe's release. The two of them form a PERFECT COMBO on MANY levels:
- Shenhe's main strenght is the usage of her skill, wich Chong's CD reduction helps maintain and even overlap.
- Shenhe's Press Skill buffs 5 instances of cryo damage and Skill/Burst damage, Chong deals exactly 4 hits on his burst and 1 on his skill.
- Chong's Cryo infusion allows the WHOLE TEAM to use Shenhe's Quills, even non-cryo units.
Honestly feels like Shenhe was made to specifically buff Chong.
Iiiiiinteresting.
You have me curious to try that out!
Pity I don’t have access to Shenhe. Dammit.
I never got Shenhe.... interesting strat.
Auntie has Chongyun's back I see.
Yes exactly, I thought that the release of Shenhe was just Hoyo indirectly buffing Chongyun (and Ayaka). She gave the popsicle boy so much more use and potential!
I think he also failed naming hangout quest, everyone can know chongyun with that its not like alloy, or xinyan that now is getting events
@@DarkFrozenDepths Welp,ofcourse
clearly, his kit is supposed to help with freeze teams, but his weapon is claymore and it shatters so its a bit contradicting.
You can use his skill to infuse and if u have i think c2 and sac greatsword its good but only use the alt for before freezing
shatter is not that big of a deal tbh. he still is pretty good at freezing.
@@ryzhik9608 So is any other cryo user,thats the main issue
@@ryzhik9608 but everyone else is better and thats why most would choose other people over him
@@ryzhik9608 actually it is a big deal. I ran Chongyun-Xingqiu freeze team when I was low AR and watching enemies constantly freeze and unfreeze is pretty disorienting. It screws you up big time. I would rather run melt or even mono Cryo
I'm so proud to say that no matter the fact that I have some good built meta characters, chongyun is still one of the characters i use the most. I fell in love with his design the first time I got him last year ago and I've been building him to perfection ever since. So far his charged can go up to 25k and his brust up to 35-40k with no buffs when he crits. He deserves so much more and I hope hyovse will give him the recognition he deserves
sheesh what’s your build? asking as another chongyun main
@@primmaymani 2 pieces blizzard, 2 shimenawa and serpent spine as weapon. He's c6 and triple crowned too 👑 I just got real luck with his artifacts haha! I'm so glad to see another dedicated chongyun main! Let's have fun and make our popsicle boy the strongest 💪
I have an Ayaka that could easily replace him, but I also have Xingqiu and those boys are a package deal goddammit
I play Ayaka Chongyun and xingqiu in the same team 😂 somehow it works
@@sucharitaMCK hmm well Chongyun does produce 4 particles so he could battery Ayaka
Yes! Keep the besties together
Its the law yeah
Boyfriends 🥰
Perfect timing with the banner.. the pain I just experienced was getting twice as many ittos as chongyun.. my chongyun needs constellations.. I played chongyun as a support to diluc.. I accidentally pulled auntie and well now chongyun is my best boy and diluc is in the basement
waiting for auntie's banner is pain, i got a jean constellation on her first run..at least c2 jean is a good support??
does diluc override chongyun's infusion? or is the cryo infusion the one that has higher priority?
cause if chong overrides diluc you're probably wasting that pyro damage.
@@cleenash well you can actually look at the team comp when Hoyo was show casing Diluc
@@cleenash Chongyun cannot override Diluc but that also makes the team pair kinda useless. It would be fun if Diluc could melt all of Chongyun's hits but he actually can't since his own claymore is infused with pyro & overrides Chongyun.
I actually used to play Diluc + Chongyun when I first started the game xDDD
But Xiangling would have been a wayyyy better pair. She could melt all his cryo infusion atks with her burst/Guoba
Except unfortunately, Ei is a better teammate for that team
You could still use your Diluc in their team, actually! I’ve been having a blast infusing Diluc’s melee attacks and doing one tick of his E, an infused cryo hit, and so on. It’s just free melts all around ✨
I'm excited. I did one of those challenges where you have to main the unit you pull first. I pulled chongyun and at first I was really disappointed, but then I realized he can be really strong. Now I have a melt chong that hits 80k per blade in his burst and his artifacts could be quite a bit better. He deserves more recognition as a 4*.
whats ur build?? and what buffs are you using
@@kaga.mine. I run him with full EM Sucrose, Crowned bennett with aquila favonia and Xiangling to apply more pyro.
I use 4pc glad on him since I also want his normals to melt consistently and the damage ramps up over time. I had no trouble in the abyss.
R3 serpent spine(can't wait to r5 it)
2300 atk
80 em(he gets most if his em from sucrose, but he could use more)
70% crit rate
170% crit dmg. I'm sure I can get up to 200% crit dmg with better rolls.
This team has cleared some abyss chambers faster than my melt ganyu team on my main account.
Edit: He had less crit dmg than I thought oops. Changed it from 180 to 170.
@@aurorasurrealis1032 wow, thats really impressive! honestly hope my chongyun reaches stats like those, my artifact rng is...something. I run 2pc glad and 2pc blizzard with the fish weapon because i use him as a support. you have a great dps build for him
@@aurorasurrealis1032 In fortnite terms?
13:50 I feel like Chongyun's power disparity is quite simple. Hoyoverse overvalued Infusion too much pre-launch. While Bennet also offers Pyro Infusion, they considered it valuable enough to make it his C6, and yet it's still one of few constellations in the game people won't enable due to it possibly screwing up team compositions. So Chongyun's minimal party buffing is because they thought infusion was a good enough selling point on its own, but as we've seen, it really isn't.
Hell, it's obvious this was their logic for all of 1.X, since even when we got the first self-infusions with self-buffs, they came with downsides (The HP Drain for Xiao and Hu Tao, Tartaglia's skill ceiling/cooldown shenanigans). It wasn't until 2.0 that we started getting characters with innate self-buff infusions with no downsides. And no, Yoimiya not being as good as Hu Tao does not count as a downside.
It would also explain why most early catalysts are just kinda wonky, because Hoyoverse figured that always doing elemental damage was strong enough to warrant undertuning. (Except Sucrose)
This is probably why Thoma is so low stat wise too. He "infuses" your autos with a fire blast and buff. They figured it was enough.
I get the feeling that when they test characters, they do so at level 90 with full EM builds to make sure they aren't broken. But because EM is a rare artifact drop and getting to 90 requires a lot of resources, most players will never reach those heights and thus reaction-based abilities end up far weaker than they're tested for. Hoyoverse simply out of touch with the resources required to play their own game, which is also why the game is so expensive.
@@normal6483 I think you're on to something on your hypothesis on how they test their characters, seeing that Kuki Shinobu only worked decent when she had a full EM build.
Ironically, Ningguang was very capable of dishing out some absurd damage. Enough 5 digit multihit to machinegun bosses in seconds. She also wasn't undertuned. Arguably Barbara too when you look at it. Busted healing (even for people that use it) and one of the strongest charge hit % attacks in the game. But since the community has a meta fetish, they tend to overlook these two facts.
Chongyun’s team infusion itself can’t even be a selling point because it gets so easily overridden or ignored. Almost every 5* hypercarry has their own form of sustained infusion which completely replaces his. (And if they don’t, they’re Eula and don’t want Chongyun’s E anyway.) Those carries want buffers and deployable burst supports, which leaves poor Chongyun with hardly a chance to shine. And when they would want Chongyun to help with say hydro shields, they don’t even need him to be remotely built. It’s honestly just pretty sad.
I feel like the thing with Chongyun is that he’s actually really strong,his abilities are good,his passives are good and his constellations are good to the point where i dare say that if what he does was actually needed he would be a Bennett tier character but…as already stated no one actually really needs him,his role is currently completely useless and even worse he’s not a "just slap him in" character like Zhongli because a lot of characters even have negative synergy with him :/
i think he would be a lot better if there was a toggle for the cryo infusion. like when you hold skill you get a cryo infusion, when you press skill you get a different buff like cryo dmg bonus, atk, crit dmg, just something. his c2 and last ascension stat make him a pretty good cryo dps support but rn shenhe outshines him by a large margin. if he was more versatile i think people would use him, but his skill just ruins a lot of comps.
@@kaga.mine. That’s what im saying,either make him more versatile or we need character that actually need him/would benefit from him a lot
@@ATMEIDAREYAIDOUBLEDAREYA exactly, we already have dps cryo builds for rosaria, shenhe, kaeya, etc, or melt bennett, but those are pretty niche comps. a good thing about him tho is that you don't need to invest in him at all if you just want him as a cryo infusion + c2 support. you can leave him at lvl 1 if u want and he gets the job done
@@kaga.mine. Yeah,i mean his passives are also pretty neat but ur right
I mean, with all due respect, saying "If what he does was actually needed..." is quite a ridiculous way of putting it. Of course any unit is crazy good if what they do is exactly what is needed ingame. That's a bit of a given. Lastly I feel like he's too much of a mix. His cons mix dps and supportive abilities, his burst is clearly nuke-dps oriented while his skill is rather support oriented and his weapon type makes it so you want to avoid having him be the one benefiting of his skill. Feel like they couldn't decide between making him a dps 4* or a support and that's what resulted in his weird spot
I mean, I’m still using Chongyun.
1. Drip
2. Personality
3. Voice
4. Screw the Meta
5. Favorite Fighting Style out of all Claymores (Granted, I know he would be better as a Sword or Polearm like other people are saying, but I gotta respect him for being able to elegantly jump with it 3 times)
I love him so much in his Hangout Event, honestly. And I can’t forget his appearances in Moonlight Merriment and especially Fleeting Colors in Flight.
“It’s definitely dangerous to infiltrate an enemy area like that. If only I was there to fight alongside you…”
The moment I heard this line, I made a vow to keep on using him no matter what anyone says.
Honestly I actually think Chongyun is pretty good. Personally I don’t know shite about team building and my team consists of [Klee, Bennett, Fishl, Chongyun] or [Beidou, Xiao, Bennett, Chongyun]. Both works fine for me and Chongyun provides pretty decent Cryo damage and the elemental reactions does some decent damages.
Yes,I played his hangout for primo and one thought quickly come into my mind.I must make him my dps no matter what! I am very happy to use him now.He is strongest in my team.Too sad because he didn't appear in any event.
I have my Chongyun at level 50 and my team comp is Traveler (Any element but currently Anemo), Yoimiya, Chongyun, and Barbara or Noelle depending on my situation
I personally think he's a good dps if you can get a good grasp of what he does best
He’s so fun to use
Personal 6. Shenhe’s only good with chongyun
With the introduction of Shenhe, Chongyun's popularity has gotten a sizeable boost - both due to exposure from Shenhe's character demo and stories, and because of his cryo infusion ability. I've seen several meme-teams with Shenhe, Chongyun, another support, and a main dps with very fast normal attacks (like qiqi or Zhongli) and surprisingly those work really well
I personally believe shenhe was made to be used with chongyun tbh
But what can i say, i’m a f2p who did it durning late liyue archon chapter 1
I still play the originl national to this day so I feel bad for Chongyun for being kicked out of the meta
I remember when my first character I ever pulled was Chongyun. Not that he's bad, its just that his utility is not sought on as of the current meta.
he was the first character i pulled too
Same!
I love (still love him but doesn't
I have only used him in trail events, and I understand why he isn't that used anymore: He can't synergise that well with anyone anymore.
So oddly enough, he excels in Mono Cryo teams, and what's even more odd is how good he sounds on paper with Aunt Shenhe. Y'know, since his Aunt solely boosts Cryo attacks, and Chongyun can decrease Skill and Burst CD, it feels like Shenhe was made to solve her nephew's issues... At the cost of her being *really* niche too.
Being niche together is still better than being niche alone!
as a loyal Chongyun main who plays him since the first day i play this game, i'm really intrigued
my boy can do no wrong in my eyes
upd: a little storytime
i got Chongyun from Noelle banner on my first day of playing, and initially, when i was not so keen on game's basics, i combined him with Razor which is the most popular mistake with these guys. i was messing around without any building until i got my first 5*, Tartaglia. and while i was grinding artifacts for him, i got lots of amazing pieces for Chongyun on the way. also, standard banner kinda helped me by giving two skyward blades which would be a loss, but Chongyun is just fine with it, his already cheap ult becomes spammy and his attack stat is going up and up.
rn i have him at 2,2k attack, 50/148 crits and 150% er
love to use him with Xingqiu or in melt comps
It's unbelievable. We had the exact same history in this game. Chongyun and razorz then Tartaglia, and skyward blade. Incredibile
Oh my samee I got him through noelle's banner and my second 4-star since I got amber as my first but anyway he's still in my team and I can do he's e at 8k and I'm good with that.
omg me too i got him when i found out the gacha existed it was on my second starter pull i got Nigquang and chongyun 2 characters i really liked the design
**look at my almost triple crowned chongyun while sweating**
Pulling Shenhe for Chongyun (while not having Ayaka or Ganyu) proves how much I love him
I'm really excited for future Ningguang episode. In theory she checks all the boxes of the exact opposite of the type of characters vars puts in those videos. She comes up in the story constantly, she has attractive design, her gameplay is one of the smoothest in the game (assuming you animation cancel) and she has a niche role of geo dps. And yet, very few people play her, probably because similarly to Yanfei she needs high investment to reach peaks of her performance and she's kinda stuck at Zhongli's hip, since he's essentially required for her to function (although arguably it's not necessary a Ning problem but more so a Geo problem).
She's probably the Geo character hit hardest by her own element. There are no reactions that increase her damage, and she offers nothing but Geo resonance and her screen's Geo damage buff to the rest of the team. So she's best on Geo teams, but she's a rare Geo character who doesn't scale with Defense, which means she gets little benefit from Gorou. She's simply the worst character for your Geo team, but Geo teams are where she shines brightest. It's a rough place to be.
@@normal6483 @Normal as a ningguang and geo main i must disagree with some of your points, although yes she is indeed one of two geo charas that don't scale off def ning *does* benefit from gorou's geo bonus and she can also buff her own geo dmg with her jade screen and if you don't zhongli its not that hard to get geo resonance with her crystilize shields; personally you can do a full geo team where you use both gorou's skill and hers to buff her and if you have itto you can buff him and use ning while you wait for itto's burst to be ready; will ning ever be able to do, say, 100k+ dmg per screenshot? nope but if you have a c2 ning you can manage to do that by making 50k+ x2 dmg because shes a *consistent* damage dealer and her kit revolves around multiple jades/hits so you never realize how much damage she does with her charged attacks and burst until you effortlessly delete every single enemy (say you do 10k+ per jade, you get 6 jades with her burst thats 60k+ damage and a well built ning can easily do 20k+ dmg per jade) so tbh other than geo resonance and benny/pyro resonance she doesnt really need anything else shes a beast on her own
@@btsxnshine6354 It took me a long time to really start putting resources into Ning… Only started a short while ago. But a mono-geo team with her, Gorou, Zongli and Noelle I’m noticing can essentially wipe ANY enemy out!
This team is just about the only one I can blindly hit “go” with and know they’ll be capable of doing the job, whereas with the other teams one always needs to think about the elemental interactions and requirements.
… These days, if I’m too lazy to switch out teammates to create a team for a particular domain I just page on over to this one and let the star-jades fly!
Actually, i don't really see how she would need zhongli anyway given geo already makes shields, plus her screens even act like projectile defense. Don't get me wrong, zhongli makes any comp tanky, but it's also overkill with a geo that's on the field most of the time like Noelle or Ningguang.
I feel like she'd be better with Yunjin since you're already doing essentially normal attacks with Ningguang a lot. There's probably others that could work alongside her too to still get that geo resonance.
@@Menageryl what artifact set/s are you using with ninguang?
I got Chongyun while trying for Xiao and ended up loving him unexpectingly. I always chose to keep him on my team during the Perilous Trails event because of how comfortable I am with him. Mans is my number 1.
Hope his next rerun is with a 5 Star I truly want cause I’d love to get him to C6.
He's literally on Itto's Banner right now.
@@CoolMintMC I don’t want Itto
ngl I have c6 chongyun but not really planning on using him, take his cons from me lmao
After getting c500 chongyun during 2.4 xiao, please feel free to take some :,)
In retrospect it's really kinda sad that they gave Chongyun a relatively rare ability to make anyone a Cryo damage dealer, and then very quickly over saturated Cryo so much that you'd never need a separate character to make your dps cryo
I'm a Chongyun main and lemme say
I have been WAITING for this video!! I can't wait to see it!!!
I dote on my Chongyun quite a lot, and let me say, I've been waiting for this video too
Same!
same!! Main chong since ar12😭
20 years later:
Why NO ONE Plays: Genshin Impact
chongyun is a great nuker with a heavy-hitting burst that is especially good at breaking elemental shields however i would say he has three main issues
1) his e skill causes cryo infusion to the active characters and can be good in certain situations but has the same problems as bennet c6. his skill also doesn't do much for ranged units like ganyu
2) his weapon has anti-synergy with his kit due to shatter
3) his kit makes it so that he is meant to played like a support or sub dps but some of his constellations require him to be the main dps to have an effect (like the one which releases 3 cryo blades after his last normal attack)
Bennet's C6 is a problem for physical characters AND Chongyun. And it's only good for Diluc and maybe Xiangling. Chongyun's infusion is great for every cryo character that isn't Diona or Ganyu. So idk
@@ryzhik9608 would even argue that his infuse is more versatile on a melee pyro that already wants to use melt
That's basically just free melt for say hu tao. chongyun infuse, one single hutao normal attack, then use her burst. even xiangling could keep pyronado melts going like that.
Im proud to say that I have being a chongyun main since 1.0, currently he does 450k with a pentamelt and im very proud of it 😤
Me: Trying to get 1 Kuki Shinobu.
Hoyo: We'll give you 4 Chongyuns instead.
Vars: Why no one plays Chongyun.
Me: 😭
frrrr me
Are you me? 😭😭😭
Funny. I also ended up with C6 Chongyun before getting Shinobu. But I don't have a problem with it since I was planning on building him for her Aunt Shenhe's comp to begin with.
I'm the opposite, I now have C1 Shinobu. Please give me your luck
BRO GIVE ME YOUR CHONGYUN PLS-
Chongyun was my most wanted 4* when i started the game, first triple crown and to this day one of my best built dps characters
I really believe just higher na multipliers or some tweaking to the shattered reaction would basically do the trick for him since his kit is actually fairly solid. Heck, even Sayu has higher na multipliers than him and her main role is being a healer, hoyoverse just did him really dirty
Ouch, seeing this thumbnail hurts real bad 🙃
Chongyun was/is my 2nd main - first was Kaeya.
I mean, I kinda knew he was a bit underused, but this video was unexpected.
Ok
Don't worry you'll get over it -a brand new shinobu main
This video: is a well-constructed debate over why he's not used that gives lots of logical evidence
Me:(hugs Chongyun) don't worry, i'm still here for you. You'll be fine. You've still got the rest of us who still love you.
On a side note, Chongyun as a DPS is actually cracked, BS/Gladiator's artifacts with Prototype is doing more damage than my friends DPS Keqing. It's insane.
The best thing about Chongyun is that his kit is versatile as hell. I don’t even need to build him that well to use him viably
To put it this way, I could run a diluc, bennett, xingqiu and chongyun team in the abyss. If my diluc dies (because he is a glass cannon), well lets just say my chongyun can take over the duties.
He was one of the very first characters I got when i first started playing and is also one of the oldest remaining members on my team. Both him and xingqiu have done wonders for me together, however I do understand why he's relatively unpopular.
He's in a weird place in which his kit is in this limbo between main dps and subdps/support. He seems to be damage focused, but his scalings are quite low and the fact he uses a claymore kinda ruins his opportunities for freeze. But his support capabilities are also not too impressive. He can enable cryo units that don't have a way to infuse themselves to deal cryo dmg with ncs, which is nice but overall niche, since the more powerful cryo dpses (namely ayaka and ganyu [and eula, but she's physical, so she doesn't need it]) can do it themselves and not a lot of people use the rest of the cryo group as dps. He can also enable some reactions but there are other characters that can bring more than simple cryo application.
In the end i stopped trying to use him as a dps, however I still love this boy and I refuse to bench him ever, so instead i actually made him the sub dps to xingqiu (who is my actual main). How it works is that when he puts down his frost field, it allows xingqiu to freeze everything and also proc the mistsplitter's 3rd stack. This along with bennett's buffs and kazuha's support capabilities (cc, vv shred, elemental dmg buffs) make this team quite effective at dealing with chambers where there are big crowds of enemies, as everything stays frozen and I can just slice them to pieces with xingqiu's rainswords. It's a really fun team comp in my opinion, however i understand it's beyond niche
He is a great support! I don't like Ganyu or Ayaka much, so I didn't pull them, and Chongyun is supporting my freeze Kaeya. I like him a lot.
@@fairytells5225 ah yes, he's excellent for kaeya
I sometimes use him with razor or barbara
@@knownpegasus907 his e screws up Razor's phys sadly:(
@@knownpegasus907 ah barbara can be good with him since it can trigger freeze; however razor and him clash. Chongyun overrides razor's physical attacks, therfore sabotaging his main source of damage. That is, only if you built him phys. With electro razor it should be alright I suppose, but razor is a physical dps by design
In the end though, you can play with whoever you want, so if you feel like having them in a team together, that's alright! But just wanted to inform you about that negative synergy they have
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despite them being basically the entire meta, i don't have ayaka, ganyu, eula or even shenhe, i wish for characters based on personality and appeal and thanks to genshin I've discovered that the calm and collected ice lady is my least favorite character archetype, so I'll be sticking with Chongyun, thank you! And yes I do have an emotional attachment to him, such an underrated character imo
well i also don't have the characters you said and some of them are pretty boring
@@rboygamer6668 yeahh that's what im saying
YES! I found someone else who wishes for character because of their personality and not abilities and power!
Edit: I also don't have shenhe, ganyu, ayaka or eula and only one of them that I want is eula because of her looks
@@katulanocteris9927 For me if the character looks cool and good gameplay then definitely pull thats why I pulled Kazuha and Itto but if the character looks not interesting/boring then definitely skip thats why i don't have those cryo girls and i don't care about Eula.
Been enjoying watching all of your videos in your “Why No One Plays” series & I knew at some point you were going to do my main, Chongyun. 🥰
It caught me off guard in my subscription box but I genuienly welcome this video with open arms! As a Chongyun Main I’m anticipating this video & looking forward to the discussion! Whether that be hearing the communites thoughts about him along with Chongyun Mains rising up to support our popsicle boy!
I’ll share my Chongyun story as well & how he singlehandly made me invested in this game :)
I started this game last year in February because my little sister begged me to join! Diluc was the character I wanted the most but I got Noelle and mained her instead. Genuinely I loved Noelle’s playstyle just swinging her claymore around but I didn’t really love her geo element. I eventually got The Skyward Pride but it just laid dormant.
Then March came around and Chongyun suddenly came home to me. I ended up instantly loving his playstyle and his cyro vision! I equipped Chongyun with The Skyward Pride and I made him the leader of my main team. Chongyun’s cute appearance along with lovable personality actually made me excited to unlock his lore and listen to all of his voice lines! Then his hangout came out which I thoroughly enjoyed! By the time I maxed out his friendship he had already become my favorite character in the game! For real I’m dying for Chongyun to make his own impact in a real quest or event!
Chongyun has been my main ever since I got him and he hasn’t left my team since!
Just about everything you can do with a Character I did with Chongyun!
He was my first triple crowned unit and first to have an all gold artifact set! I even got his constellation maxed out and he is spoiled with a five star weapon!
Regardless of my obvious support towards Chongyun I’m curious to hear what this video has to say! :)
TL;DR: I joined for my little sister & I wanted Diluc. I got Noelle and started maining her instead. Eventually I got Chongyun and he changed my entire view of the game. Chongyun has been on my main team and I still main him till this day! Chongyun has been spoiled by me ever since too. Honestly anticipating the comments this video will bring especially about the pure popsicle boy! ❤
Same, I started because of Diluc but stayed for Chongyun. I had a really rough time early game from lag bad enough to make me fail race to the destination commissions and not knowing wtf I was doing. I legit gave Ningguang EM artifacts because I thought they’d be good on catalyst users since they only do elemental attacks💀
It was honestly pretty awful and I would have quit if I didn’t pull Chongyun back then. Something about that sweet smile in his idle kept me hanging on despite my immense frustration until I fixed my lag and learned more about how to build characters and what to use resin on.
He was my main til I got Diluc on his birthday last year...
Now those two are Batman and Robin. My first units I triple crowned. Mainstays on my overworld team. And I always bring them to Abyss together. Got 36*s for the first time with them in 2.6 Abyss. Couldn’t be more proud. Still working on making them stronger and getting them some other supports so they can overcome DPS check Abyss with consistency.
I know they’re not a meta comp and have their drawbacks, but they’re just so fun. I really hope that they’ll eventually meet in the story someday... and that Chongyun will get more central screentime to begin with. Our popsicle boy deserves a lot more love from Hoyo and that would likely translate into a larger part of the community learning to appreciate him more too.
The more the video goes on, the less I believe he did the Chongyun hangouts lmao
I guess his problem is in freeze teams his ult shatters instead of freezing them. As for melt comps he's okay in that spot.
It' kinda nice with Diluc. Standing in Chong's circle use attack, skill, attack, skill, attack, skill for an alternation of ice and fire on one character
@@gilroyscopa using his burst kinda makes chongyun pointless, and considering how easy his burst is to get back up, you’ll probably only get value out of chongyun for the first rotation
@@aperson6562 I was talking about Chong's "E" skill and Diluc standing in it alternating his basic attack with the three charges of his own "E" skill. not Chong's burst...
Or where you talking more in general?
not a problem is you swap xd
@@gilroyscopa I’m talking about diluc. Using his burst gives him pyro infusion on his normal attacks which can’t be overrides, and since you can basically have infinite uptime on the infusion, you’ll only be able to use chongyun’s cryo infusion for your first rotation where you don’t have the pyro infusion from diluc’s burst
I didnt care for Chongyun at all when I got him, but recently I did the hangout with him and it made me like him a lot. I'm now building him to replace Kaeya.
I like him because his skills are aesthetically pleasing, I have all characters and I still think that Chongyun is the most reliable Cryo applicator, useful against those abyss herald. With Shenhe, he can pull off tons of damage on a short cooldown and energy cost.
But I can understand his lack of popularity...
"Xiangling is one of the most recognizable four-stars in Genshin. Why?"
Members of the Italian Senate: (nervous sweating)
With c2 kazuha, a burst chongyun melt team is actually very competitive among meta comps. Burst chongyun actually clears content faster than xingqiu in my xiangling bennett kazuha comp. Chongyun is all frontload damage, so if an enemy or boss moves a lot, you won’t be wasting xingqiu burst time chasing them. Chongyun melts the enemy down with a quick burst and that 40 energy cost. He is criminally underrated
i think the problem there is xiangling, she needs a lot of investment to even be good and er, without xq or shogun who is a battery most ppl would preffer other teammate than chongyun just for her, but yeah, is burst is actually very good and efficient
@@mariacancino95 I think c2 kazuha is more problematic than xiangling and her constellations tho
Why I play Chongyun
1. Skill field decreases cooldown of skills and burst cast inside, helping rotations of teams
2. Cryo Resonance
3. Using Sacrificial GS makes him a very good battery for Cryo team, and extends his cryo field time
4. Burst hits hard, can help break shields
5. Cryo infusion field allows my Kaeya to continuously apply cryo and his kit to benefits from all cryo dmg bonuses
6. Lets you get all stacks of Mistsplitter
7. One of the cons also decreases cryo resistance of enemy hit by ice sword after skill expiration
Well I’ve mained Chongyun from the beginning and will always do so no matter how many units I get
I have loyalty trouble and I love him a lot no matter who is a better unit
You said he's not mentioned in the game, but he has a hangout, right? I personally like him very much, because of his story, but also because I got him very early into the game and he was my first C6 character
The hangout is a personal choice if you want to do it or not. Most people choose not to do it/them
"Not even gonna watch the video. Just came to say: wtf are you talking about, lots of people love and play Big Chongus. I'm a Big Chongus main, half of my friend group became Big Chongus mains ever since his rerun banner, Big Chongus is awesome and strong and we do every content in the game with him with ease. "No one" plays Big Chongus, my ass."
jokes asides, can't wait for this one, I first thought he was one of the most useless but always called me with his atk speed pasive and then his cooldown c2, then tried him and did wonders for kaeya permafreeze with yelan and dont get me started in the todoroki diluc team is amazing, loving the series so far
I would like to point out that in his passive talent, when his skill ability ends and attacks an enemy with a final blade, it reduces that enemy's cryo resistance, which is why the sacrificial greatsword is probably chongyun's best in slot as a support character. It's not perfect as it's harder to pull off, and ONLY reduces the cryo resistance of the enemy that was hit, as opposed to other supporting skills being less conditional, but it's worth noting.
And the fact that he has a short CD burst with very low energy costs helps him utilize 4 pc nobless really well.
I never gave chongyun the time of day until I played his hangout event, which I find to be one of the most amusing hangouts to play so far, and I thought he was really sweet. Didn't take long for him to be one of my top favourites.
Oh this one hurts, I know it’s true but it still hurts
Seeing this made me so excited because Chongyun is one of my favorite characters! When I was watching previous "Why NO ONE Plays" episodes by Vars I was thinking about if Chongyun would be a good one, and now here he is! My boy
Am a happy chongyun main- he was my first 90 character, first one with all perfect 20d artifacts and i intend to triple crown him :] even though there are much 'stronger' characters he's just fun to play :))
So this'll be interesting to see!
I triple crowned him long ago. No regrets. He hits like a wrecking ball with crit gear + wolfs gravestone
same here! he was my first triple crowned character and even tho i have ayaka and ganyu, i still use him a lot bc i prefer his playstyle, hes really fun!!
My poor popsicle boy. Always been a fan of Chongyun. I love using him as a budget noblesse Cryo battery. Between noblesse and his fav greatsword, Chong keeps team energy high!
I cant recall chongyun even getting screentime at all until hangout events released, and screentime after that is very little
It’s unfortunate but hopefully he’ll get more screen time, like how xinyan got an event with childe that one time
Proposed changes if he ever gets buffed:
-Removing requiring to play circle impact when you use his E.
-keep his burst animation the same, but instead turn it Into one single hit (make him more compatible with reverse melt).
-make shatter actually fuckin scale like swirl or Overload.
I honestly feel like Chongyun should have been a catalyst user. That would have made him so much more useful on freeze comps, make him pair with Xingqiu perfectly (as well as the Frostbearer which literally has no use as of now) and catalyst just fits him better than a claymore IMO, considering he's an exorcist/monk. Not much else would really need to change with his kit if he was a catalyst user, especially since he can shred cryo resistance on his own, which isn't something I've seen anyone mention yet, and he'd work amazing on a melt team with Xiangling. He would have been a great main DPS option for early game and still possibly be competitive late game as well with enough investment. On top of changing his weapon type, another good buff would be for his steady breathing talent to work on catalyst users as well, to help with some of their horrendously slow attack speed and give Chongyun higher NA scalings.
I'm pretty sure they're saving the catalyst thing for the tsartisa but claymore definately didn't suit him. 4 stars nowadays have a lot of thought put into their design and playstyle while chongyun, being an early character, doesn't have a lot of that. Mihoyo did him REALLY DIRTY LMFAO
But he'd make a cool anything really. I feel like I actually like claymore for him more than a sword or a bow or a polearm because of some of the decorative and ceremonial speeds and knives some exorcists use in Chinese culture. I feel like if he was a bit more stylish, then alot of early game players would be more attracted to him
I have an issue with a lot of characters like Chongyun that have very little in terms of quest content. Like, Fischl had one limited time event for her, but if you never played that, you know next to nothing about her if you don't read a few books (assuming you don't roll her or view...artwork). Everyone should get attention, but some get more than others, sadly.
Fischl is literally having a story quest next patch with Xinyan and Kazuha
@@K.G444 yeah cant wait for that so far the leaks look amazing
if I know correctly Hu Tao doesn't have any story involvement either. Most you will know about her is from her story quest and some cameos in events as Zhongli's boss. Kind of sad that some characters don't get enough attention.
I think Chongyun is actually great 👍
I been maining him for over a year and since then hes only getting stronger! I hope people give him a chance to shine since hes a very flexible character
I feel like he's getting really under apprciated. Chongyun is very much viable to this day. I love putting him in the Abyss with Diluc, so then it's like a free-melt-estate :D It's also oddly enjoyable to spam ults and abilities of these two without end, thanks to their low energy needs. I know it might seem like a weird pair with Diluc's own infusion, but the fact that it stays after swapping, and Chongyun's field doing extra attack at the end is crucial here I think.
Also YES, Ayaka Ganyu and Raiden are indeed very popular, but still not everyone has/wants them :/
Ah yes another appreciator of Diluc Chongyun melt supremacy 🥂
Love to see it.
@@a-non6238 I have them on the same team before Inazuma came out
Ye, but why would you play chongyun with diluc when you can play diluc with xingqiu. He isnt under appreciated. He just isnt worth it most of the time. And in most teams, he is not really viable for the abyss. He rather steals time than helping out. I will still main him and he will forever stay as my profile icon bc he carried me through early game and I love his design.
You forgot to mention his greatest asset, his immense drip
Chongyun's power budget was mostly allocated on his drip. That's how mihoyo balanced him has a character.
The only real explanation for his kit
I knew someone that did like to use Chongyun. He's got some potential, but he's also easily forgotten.
Although he does work extremely well with Xingqiu for a freeze setup, or almost any hydro tbh.
I just love his hangout, it's so fun and cute. Always love chongyun, since early playing days
This makes me nostalgic and also sad… theres so much characters (esp the ones in the beginning) that doesn’t get much love and as more and more characters come out… they get buried
He is a core member of the classic National Team but except for newer players no one uses the classic one anymore. Sucrose for an alternate but still true 4* National Team, Kazuha + Tartaglia for the International Team or Raiden for the Raiden National Team, every version better than the original.
Except for that he is rather niche as not many characters benefit from Cryo infusion and the normal attack speed increase and the CD decrease aren't strong enough to be a real support unit.
As a Chongyun main, I’m just glad there’s a video talking about him
i feel like he’s gonna be good with a future character cause right now every damage dealer doesn’t need him
I remember some people said to me that Chongyun is only a support character but the day I got him he became my main dps and people were shocked that I didn't made him as a support
Chongyun main here! You definitely layed solid points on this video. Personally I mainly use the boy model units which generally all work extremely well with him except someone like Xiao maybe cause he’s a dps and my Chong is dps built. Him, Bennett, Xingqiu and Kazuha (was sucrose) carried me through the entire game and I’ve played since launch. Tbh I never knew about Chongyun till I pulled him and was smitten to this day but I’ve always despised the fact that he’s so unappreciated, hated or left out. Justice for Yunyun he’s best boy 🥺
Keqing is the true electro archon because gameplay. She's pullable through standard/all even banners so you can get constellations year round, she has good electro application, movement enhancement that's valuable if no Venti Kazuha and she deals good dmg with charged attacks.
This is nothing but the sad truth, as a long time chongyun main i do love him with all my heart and have invested unreal ammounts of time in his build but he still underperforms my other dps's, one of them being yanfei another 4*, you did explain the whole problem of his underperformance really well, kee up the good work vars
I know ONE person who definitely became attached to him. Definitely an "if you know, you know" situation😅
With Shenhe in the game. It really helped his cryo DPS. Since no other character applies cryo like Chongyun can. And with this family of excorcist anyone can be a cryo DPS.
I just think his design was confused. His kit suggests that he can be a dps or sub DPS. Since he does little to support besides damage. But it's not even his fault cryo characters just so happen to be some of the best. He doesn't really have a means to compete. Still I think Ganyu as a sup DPS for Chongyun is a great combination. Bennett and Chongyun make a great melt combination, especially with c6 Bennett.
He's a cryo DPS, so he's a little more niche.
All I know is I will protect that boi with my life if needed
My main since the start until now, he's just my favourite. I'm glad i got to see some of his weak points and understand why he's not that popular, sure it stings a little when people don't know about his backstory or adorable personality but that's just how it is sometimes. thank you for this
**You said what I've been saying for years, mihoyo forgets this boi, but. Chongyun is best boi**
**Personal attachment mihoyo, I do. Above any character here. Always have, always will.**
It’s simply because he’s balanced and niche. Balanced is not good enough for most Genshin players because how scarce resources are, especially if you’re a balanced 4 star. 4* units gotta be broken for players to justify building them (Xiangling, Beidou, Sucrose, Bennett, Xingqiu). He’s also niche in a sense that he will disrupt some comp, so he wont be the universal cryo DPS/battery like Shenhe, Kaeya or Rosaria.
I would disagree with the last statement, but agree overall
@@ryzhik9608 Personally I’ve tried him in a freeze team as a main DPS and support, he just shatters way too much and my hydro application wasn’t able to keep up with it. If he’s in a freeze team then he can’t use his BA or CA at all
@@finntran1672 Who did you use for the hydro application?
i've been using chongyun from the past 5ish months, basically from the day i got him. i personally think you did him justice. great video!
When I first started Genshin, I don't look up for best teams and such, I just enjoy spamming attacks until the enemies die so I don't know what the national team is. I even got to Inazuma without knowing who Chongyun is (I also didn't do the hang out events so I never even know he was there). He haven't appeared in any major events/story where he have some major involvements. In Liyue events, he's always just the guy that Xingqiu dragged.
Chongyun is such a sweet character, if HoYoverse will never make him do more dmg, at least give him more story exposure.
8:52 ALL reactions in the game are controlled by a standard of 2.5s or 3 hit ICD. No elemental reaction has no icd, but certain atks, skills, and burst completely ignore icd.
Loyal Chongyun main here!
As he’s my favorite character, he’s probably one of if not the most invested character I have in the game, even doing 100k per burst blade (total about 350k+ for the whole burst) with proper set up (oops not so subtle flex). It honestly breaks my heart when now nobody thinks about chongyun when they say national team because he really can be great with a proper build. But one thing that i do feel is weird about his kit is that his A4 passive, Rimechaser blade decreases cryo res of enemies, i just feel like its a weird time to decrease cryo res as the cryo infusions have already expired, you would only be able to use this resistance shred if you saved up your chongyun ult or other cryo characters’ skills; i find this awkward as his skill duration is too long considering that he is very quickswap oriented, i feel like it would have been useful if he would offer this resistance shred during the duration of the field although this could potentially be overpowered. in addition, while he could be a more dps oriented support for ayaka in a standard freeze team as a cryo flex, my experience pairing them together was sub-optimal at best as, while they individually can hit hard and ayaka can take advantage of the rimechaser blade passive, once again, chongyun’s skill duration AND cooldown are far too long which makes him an inefficient battery for ayaka, who needs her burst up often. I agree as well about his general absense from the game’s world, I hope he will have more hangouts! Been craving for a Shenhe-Chongyun interaction in game, hehe
triple crowned him with no regrets
I have never once played Chongyun and Xingqiu in different teams - they have the exact same exp - and with Shenhe they're extra great. I'm just attached to this kid. I see him and I'm just like "What a charming young man!"
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4:00 well, I do remember, but mainly because I don't make a habit of skipping through hangout dialogues. At least for the first time I play them.
you don't even need to play the hangout event for that. if you have him, you can just read his profile.
Chongyun has an excellent kit, I feel that he just doesn’t catch or keep peoples interest
I actually imagined if Chongyun say gave the same atk boost to characters as Bennett does but with his E, with cryo infusion on top, and Bennett's Q gave pyro infusion right at c0
We could have much more different teams with both of them, if freeze was needed, it would be Chongyun's time to shine and for vape teams there would be Bennett. Genshin meta would be Chongyun+Bennett melt teams tho XD
chongyun and xingqiu carried me early game to ar 45 until i got xiao but i still love him
I remember when I first got Chongyun - I literally screamed because he was the only four-star character I ever wanted. I've been maining him ever since I got him :)
I love chongyun still to this day cause he carried me through the early AR's and he remains on my diluc team to this day cause he works really well with him. Plus I just love seeing those big ice swords slamming down on my enemies.
I rememeber when I first started playing the game, he was one of the very first characters I pulled from the gacha. I didn't really know anything about strategies, but I loved the cryo element and made him my main DPS for so many months... I've only switched him out when I decided to start building my Kaeya properly and since then I've been a proud Kaeya main.
But I remember I used to have so much fun playing Chongyun and I always thought that was interesting, because claymores are slow and I prefer faster weapons (spears, swords), but I still loved to have him on my team!
I'll probably build him again at some point.. I'd love a full cryo team if I manage to get Shenhe next time she's on a banner.
Chongyun was the character that got me into paying genshin every day. before I got him I would only play with friends.
me and my triple crowned c6 r5 serpent spine chongyun disagree. we've been together since ar 10 and now 58
I love Chongyun, and I'm very thankful for Shenhe's existence for making him more viable. He sadly isn't in the best place right now, as a DPS or a support...
Looking back now, I find it funny how Liyue, the land where the geo archon ruled is currently has more known cryo vision holders than geo itself.
i mean mondstadt has only two anemo characters. it's not like the archon give out visions either. according to ei it's more complicated than that.
Chongyun was my very first character I randomly pulled very early and quickly became my main for so long and although I have ayaya I can’t completely abandon my little popsicle boy and continue to use him along with anything Shenhe :3
I know this isn’t a personal attack on Chongyun mains but the only thing you said that I agree with is his lack of appearance in story quests which is really saddening. Chongyun is literally a beast. (or at least mine is) He does SO much damage and is an amazing support when I need him to be. I only have c3 Chongyun and he already does 10k damage, which is a lot for my current level. His skill, burst, and normal attack are all staked at talent level 6 each. He is my main DPS with Kokomi and Yae Miko being his supports. (Diluc will be added to that when he comes home) All I’m saying is that if you don’t know how to use him or appreciate him then you won’t be able to witness him in full glory.
i mained chongyun until ar 54, i knew few people used him but he's just underrated, not bad. my artifacts are too trash for me to still main him but i have his cons which make him an amazing burst and skill support for ayaka. i still use him all the time he's really good!
I agree with your video, burr my main reason for not playing Chongyun is im not a fan of claymore characters in general, UNTIL Eula came out because jet attack speed is faster than other claymore characters. And Xinyan because when you crit heart attack speed is increased by 15%. Plus what's not badass about rockin out and burning enemies with a guitar pyrotechnics.