you all are so cute!! im a gay trans man too and honestly its sooo freeing channeling all my "feminine" mannerisms into my gay mannerisms and it makes me feel a lot better lol
I love this and I relate to all of it. My partner and I started out as lesbians, I then transitioned so we technically became a straight couple, and now my partner is transitioning too, so now we are gay men! My head hurts! We are both struggling with being gay men, both of us consider ourselves to be mostly attracted to women, however we do love each other so we are trying to make this work. I think my biggest issue is in being seen less of a man , in that some people treat gay men in similar way to females and I dont want that! I want to be treated as a man! However, I am a very feminine man and I could relate to your being comfortable around gay men in terms of not having to watch some of your more feminine traits. Right now I am pretty confused, I realise now that my sexuality isnt as set as I thought it was but at the same time this leaves me just being so unsure! Anyway....its so good to hear you both talking about things Ive felt and thought so thank you!!
Forrest- just Coming out at Trans at 53 still living as a woman at work and in the public - no path is sure yet. Just shared with my wife and you are saving me!! She is so understanding and wants me to be happy. She said she sees my freedom and sees me as male. I don’t know much but your videos are so helpful. Thank you!
I've heard many trans people say that they couldn't date another trans person because it would just amplify their dysphoria and I'm sure for some people it has to do with internalized transphobia as well but I find the further I am in transition the more appealing the thought of dating another trans person becomes because of all the reasons Cole & Cole mentioned and this interview just validates that! I can't imagine being involved with someone who straight off that bat 100% understands dysphoria and the sort of trans-related anxieties we feel in the bedroom. It must be so utterly different (and freeing) than dating a cis person and having to go through that seemingly long and dreadful process of coming out, then explaining how sex works for you, then having to calibrate in the bedroom, working out the insecurities and setting boundaries and blah blah blah. It must be just so much more simple it makes dating cis people seem so daunting in comparison lol.
Omg!! I feel such a relief inside, listening to these stories, my heart is ...relaxed, at ease? I'm finding myself in you guys and that feels so good. Thank you so much for your videos, I'm so glad I happened upon this video and channel. It's really affirming, as someone who has recently come out as a transman (and not physically transitioned yet) :D Thank you!!
I love this. You can feel the love here and this subject will open-up and free many. I can't express how happy this video made me feel. Inspired is the word that comes to mind. Good work, Forest!
Dude you make the coolest videos on some fantastic topics! Keep up the amazing work man! And lots of love to your buddies in this video! So awesome to see such rad, open and loving people. If any of you are ever in the Sacramento or LA area hit me up! ✌️💙
yeah!! before i realised i was trans i had weird attractions as i knew ive always liked males but being a girl dating a boy was just so weird and i just didnt want it even though i knew i was still a girl (back then) that liked males
Thank you, thank you, thank you. I just watched Cole pre-T, Cole a year later, and then this video and it has really, really, really helped me. I am pre-T and was drawn to the title with "jitters" in it because that's where I'm at right now. I am early-days in a relationship that I just know is going to end as I become easier to read as male because he is not gay (and not really ready for a relationship anyway, so things aren't very stable at all.) I do feel strongly that I will not lose his friendship, just as I have not lost the friendship of the man I was dating when I first came out as trans (who is now one of my biggest supporters during my transition process.) It was hugely helpful and supportive to see Cole processing the loss of one relationship and the discovery of another (surprising) relationship. It has .... sort of "given me permission" to say "fuck it" and move forward with my transition instead of waiting to see what might come of this new relationship. Because when I think it all through, I realize I can live happily without this partner but I honestly don't believe I can live happily without transition. I can't deny my true self for someone else. Thank you.
This is lovely, thanks so much for making these videos. They are always interesting and insightful, and this one in particular just made me so happy :)
You trans guys are so cute. I'm a cis female who used to identify as trans a long time ago but I never medically transitioned.... and I'd date a trans guy. The guy in the middle is the cutest. :P
If I remember right cole said he lived in washington. You are always making videos with him, so may I ask if you live in washington? It would be so cool to meet the three of you one day:) Well have a good one. later
I can't find my old comment so I'll just make a new one. I can't believe this is the latest video. Kind of funny actually, because Cole on the left, friended me on facebook. I was just telling him on his video that my T dose is low and my dr is refusing to up it. He made my day by saying I was manly as fuck even though he had no idea what I look like. So I found him on facebook and messaged him so he could see what I looked like. He then sent me a friend request. And, I have no idea how to talk to him. I find myself either star struck cause I have seen you only on youtube, or dumbfounded. I catch myself rereading over and over again, my texts, to see if they sound stupid and then of course there are typos I didn't catch. Is that weird? I still think it would be cool to meet you guys in person. I am scared now, that if I ever do, I just might stand still with a blank look on my face, and say nothing. Anyway, that was my story. Night
+ClosetTransgender So you have experienced the awkwardness too? Thanks man! I am trying. I just had a hysto so I can actually do simple tasks again, after two years of not being able to use my stomache muscles. So I have been looking for work, trying to figure out hormones and drs and top surgery, and I can finally ride my skateboard that I only rode for 3 days before getting sick. I took a narly fall 2 weeks ago and my knee is just now healing. I got pads now, so I'm all set to go out when its sunny again. Have a good one, later:)
They really are! As an ex-lesbian trans guy who is slowly coming to terms with the fact that he might like guys more than he originally intended, it helps a lot to see a gay trans relationship. I hope I find love like this some day!
I dont think Im ever going to come out or transition. I think for me its party because I like guys so much and Im afraid of everything and Idk. So Im not gonna transition ever. HAHAHA idk.
Four years ago I shut down any thoughts of transition, I thought I was stupid and crazy. Two years ago I accepted it but decided I'd never go through with it. I NEVER could imagine coming out, I couldn't ever do it. Finally five years later I'm starting to come out and medically transition. I promise things will work out for you, even if it takes months or years, eventually you will get to a stage of peace and I promise you'll get to be yourself. Hang in there!
+Lizard If you need to transition you'll do so when you're ready. I felt that same repulsion for a couple of years before I couldn't take it anymore and just had to do it. It's like waiting for too long itself pushes you to do it lol. At least that was my experience. I'm 3 years on t now and currently recovering from top surgery and I'm so much happier and comfortable with myself (and others!!) than I even thought was possible.
thank you so much for this forest and both of you. I hate to say this but I NEED a brother to talk to. I have lost it all it seems. my marriage of 11 years is now gone please contact me on messenger I'd be glad to talk
There's such a beautiful loving energy coming from them. The way they smile at each other and talk about their relationship is super sweet.
you all are so cute!! im a gay trans man too and honestly its sooo freeing channeling all my "feminine" mannerisms into my gay mannerisms and it makes me feel a lot better lol
I love this and I relate to all of it. My partner and I started out as lesbians, I then transitioned so we technically became a straight couple, and now my partner is transitioning too, so now we are gay men! My head hurts! We are both struggling with being gay men, both of us consider ourselves to be mostly attracted to women, however we do love each other so we are trying to make this work.
I think my biggest issue is in being seen less of a man , in that some people treat gay men in similar way to females and I dont want that! I want to be treated as a man! However, I am a very feminine man and I could relate to your being comfortable around gay men in terms of not having to watch some of your more feminine traits.
Right now I am pretty confused, I realise now that my sexuality isnt as set as I thought it was but at the same time this leaves me just being so unsure!
Anyway....its so good to hear you both talking about things Ive felt and thought so thank you!!
OK keep trying †o understand your selves. as for the nut in the White House impeachment procedings are beginning, he won't last thru his 1st term
Are you still together with him?
Forrest- just Coming out at Trans at 53 still living as a woman at work and in the public - no path is sure yet. Just shared with my wife and you are saving me!! She is so understanding and wants me to be happy. She said she sees my freedom and sees me as male. I don’t know much but your videos are so helpful. Thank you!
I've heard many trans people say that they couldn't date another trans person because it would just amplify their dysphoria and I'm sure for some people it has to do with internalized transphobia as well but I find the further I am in transition the more appealing the thought of dating another trans person becomes because of all the reasons Cole & Cole mentioned and this interview just validates that! I can't imagine being involved with someone who straight off that bat 100% understands dysphoria and the sort of trans-related anxieties we feel in the bedroom. It must be so utterly different (and freeing) than dating a cis person and having to go through that seemingly long and dreadful process of coming out, then explaining how sex works for you, then having to calibrate in the bedroom, working out the insecurities and setting boundaries and blah blah blah. It must be just so much more simple it makes dating cis people seem so daunting in comparison lol.
Yeah, being with another trans person is like, well... being with someone who just gets you on a fundamental level!
Omg!! I feel such a relief inside, listening to these stories, my heart is ...relaxed, at ease? I'm finding myself in you guys and that feels so good. Thank you so much for your videos, I'm so glad I happened upon this video and channel. It's really affirming, as someone who has recently come out as a transman (and not physically transitioned yet) :D Thank you!!
How could you not love this?! Thank you for this video. Three awesome human beings! :)
I love this. You can feel the love here and this subject will open-up and free many. I can't express how happy this video made me feel. Inspired is the word that comes to mind. Good work, Forest!
You guys are all fantastic, and the empathy and respect between the Coles is so lovely to see.
This video is fucking beautiful, man. And the comments are amazing. I would love to hang out with you guys. So lovely. Rock on, Forrest and Coles!
I could see you hosting a talk show! 😂 you funny and you keep the conversation interesting!
Dude you make the coolest videos on some fantastic topics! Keep up the amazing work man! And lots of love to your buddies in this video! So awesome to see such rad, open and loving people. If any of you are ever in the Sacramento or LA area hit me up! ✌️💙
Awesome! love this video! keep em coming and thank you Forrest! :)
yeah!! before i realised i was trans i had weird attractions as i knew ive always liked males but being a girl dating a boy was just so weird and i just didnt want it even though i knew i was still a girl (back then) that liked males
that was a big sign to me i guess
Thank you, thank you, thank you. I just watched Cole pre-T, Cole a year later, and then this video and it has really, really, really helped me. I am pre-T and was drawn to the title with "jitters" in it because that's where I'm at right now.
I am early-days in a relationship that I just know is going to end as I become easier to read as male because he is not gay (and not really ready for a relationship anyway, so things aren't very stable at all.) I do feel strongly that I will not lose his friendship, just as I have not lost the friendship of the man I was dating when I first came out as trans (who is now one of my biggest supporters during my transition process.)
It was hugely helpful and supportive to see Cole processing the loss of one relationship and the discovery of another (surprising) relationship. It has .... sort of "given me permission" to say "fuck it" and move forward with my transition instead of waiting to see what might come of this new relationship. Because when I think it all through, I realize I can live happily without this partner but I honestly don't believe I can live happily without transition. I can't deny my true self for someone else.
Thank you.
SUPER loved this video! Thanks so much for making it, guys!!!
Dude your channel, it helps. A lot.
This is adorable. My goodness.
I was surprised at the beautiful insights about trust and intimacy and growth, THANKS for making this video.
Very interesting! Thanks for posting another Great video Forest:) Love ya
Dude please come back, I really miss your videos they are so amazing and interesting.
I cried watching this. If being trans is this liberating and true I must stop running away and face myself
Dude.. it's been 3 months man.. I'm sure I speak for all of your followers when I say that an update would be great. ;)
Great explanations from both Cole's. Thanks for Forrest for the effort it took to bring it all fourth.
God i love you guys, I'm a gay guy who is also attracted to trans men, what you two have is so beautiful and i so get it
This is lovely, thanks so much for making these videos. They are always interesting and insightful, and this one in particular just made me so happy :)
This video was both beautiful and fascinating. Thank you all so much for making it! It is such an interesting topic.
Thank you for this! Great info!
Aww! Such a cute couple. Fab video as always 😊
What's the Coles's channel?
You trans guys are so cute. I'm a cis female who used to identify as trans a long time ago but I never medically transitioned.... and I'd date a trans guy. The guy in the middle is the cutest. :P
Very interesting interview! (as usual ;-) ) Keep going!
I want to find someone who looks at me like cole looks at cole
What a wonderful, insightful conversation. You are a beautiful couple and hope you are together for a very long time.
If I remember right cole said he lived in washington. You are always making videos with him, so may I ask if you live in washington? It would be so cool to meet the three of you one day:) Well have a good one. later
The way they look at each other fucks me up 😂❤️
Beautifully done, guys!
This so awesome.....unbelievable. Three guys....all very handsome.
Aw. This vid gave me squishy feels. :)
I can't find my old comment so I'll just make a new one. I can't believe this is the latest video. Kind of funny actually, because Cole on the left, friended me on facebook. I was just telling him on his video that my T dose is low and my dr is refusing to up it. He made my day by saying I was manly as fuck even though he had no idea what I look like. So I found him on facebook and messaged him so he could see what I looked like. He then sent me a friend request. And, I have no idea how to talk to him. I find myself either star struck cause I have seen you only on youtube, or dumbfounded. I catch myself rereading over and over again, my texts, to see if they sound stupid and then of course there are typos I didn't catch. Is that weird? I still think it would be cool to meet you guys in person. I am scared now, that if I ever do, I just might stand still with a blank look on my face, and say nothing. Anyway, that was my story. Night
You are a good man. Take a chance. The initial awkwardness disappears with time. Lol. Take care Brother! Live your dreams.
+ClosetTransgender So you have experienced the awkwardness too? Thanks man! I am trying. I just had a hysto so I can actually do simple tasks again, after two years of not being able to use my stomache muscles. So I have been looking for work, trying to figure out hormones and drs and top surgery, and I can finally ride my skateboard that I only rode for 3 days before getting sick. I took a narly fall 2 weeks ago and my knee is just now healing. I got pads now, so I'm all set to go out when its sunny again. Have a good one, later:)
this was amazing 😊 y'all are all great
Sooo cute!! Happy for them! 💖
Love your videos!
Another awesome insightful video
This is my new favorite video ever
That means so much!!! They sure are cuties, huh?
They really are! As an ex-lesbian trans guy who is slowly coming to terms with the fact that he might like guys more than he originally intended, it helps a lot to see a gay trans relationship. I hope I find love like this some day!
Love this :)
Love! ❤ An adorable bunch of guys
this is so beautiful im crying :(
Thank you for being there, honesty and love is profoundly moving. *hugs*
ClosetTransgender ♥️
do u have a twitter acc? I'd like to follow you if it's okay
I would connect with you on social media, but this is all I got! If I twitter it up, I will let you know!
Hey, do you have you ever interviewed a transgender man who is dating a transgender woman?
You guys are all awesome!
cole
+emQism Agree!
You guys seem like awesome people :)
I love this. I wish we could make a video together!
+CaptainDL we will. I look forward to the day.
That skinny boy is so cute!
Haha, my name's Cole!
I dont think Im ever going to come out or transition. I think for me its party because I like guys so much and Im afraid of everything and Idk. So Im not gonna transition ever. HAHAHA idk.
Four years ago I shut down any thoughts of transition, I thought I was stupid and crazy. Two years ago I accepted it but decided I'd never go through with it. I NEVER could imagine coming out, I couldn't ever do it. Finally five years later I'm starting to come out and medically transition. I promise things will work out for you, even if it takes months or years, eventually you will get to a stage of peace and I promise you'll get to be yourself. Hang in there!
+Lizard If you need to transition you'll do so when you're ready. I felt that same repulsion for a couple of years before I couldn't take it anymore and just had to do it. It's like waiting for too long itself pushes you to do it lol. At least that was my experience. I'm 3 years on t now and currently recovering from top surgery and I'm so much happier and comfortable with myself (and others!!) than I even thought was possible.
idk. I just dont think ill ever do it.
Mindblown..
Lots of hella fine facial hair in this video ;-)
thank you so much for this forest and both of you. I hate to say this but I NEED a brother to talk to. I have lost it all it seems. my marriage of 11 years is now gone please contact me on messenger I'd be glad to talk
+Tamika Riley Do me a favor and go to my channel page and there is my contact information to send an email. Do that.
+ClosetTransgender I cant figure it out where?
+Ethan Riley go to my channel page, to the about section & there is my email for inquiries
Middle guy is sooo hot