Talking Watches With William Massena
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- Опубликовано: 5 апр 2016
- It was when he was chief operating officer of Antiquorum that I first met William - introduced by a mutual friend - and to say I was intimidated would be an understatement. This imposing, well-educated, bi-lingual true connoisseur had built quite a reputation for himself as the enforcer of Timezone - almost the true-life watch snob - a ball-breaker of the highest order. And William is all that, certainly, but he's also one of the most genuine, caring, and insightful men in the entire industry. He has seen it all, and owned it all. His influence on watches only grew when he accepted a position as a jury member of the Grand Prix d'Horlogerie de Genève, and today, I am proud to welcome my dear friend, and someone from whom I have learned so much, to HODINKEE. This is your official Talking Watches with William Massena. For the full story, go here: www.hodinkee.com/articles/Talk...
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" I became a watch collector pretty late...6 or 7 years old "
Savage af 😂😂😂
Instant Hall Of Fame
SpaghettiKillah hahaha you couldn’t have said it better 🤣
And his first watch was/is gorgeous, such an impeccable start.
I bought my first watch, a jumbo Patek Nautilus automatic, when I was 8.
Rich parents!!!!!!!
I on the other hand always wanted a Breitling since I was 13 ....bought my NAVITIMER @ 29 yrsld. I just got my first ever Omega Speedmaster Moonwatch , this past Tuesday. I'm 35 yrsld, and putting down 8K on a timeless masterpiece is truly an honor to have a wonderful historical movement on your wrist!
Ben is such a gentleman and a great interviewer. He never interrupts and really lets the audience appreciate and hear the guest.
'everytime something hurts Swiss watch industry so hard. It'll come back. And come back strong ever.'
This is the what I like to hear during this pandemic time.
This is my favorite Talking Watches episode, this guy knows so much and has a genuine interest for the watchmaking industry. Thank you Hodinkee
i dont mean to be so off topic but does anybody know a trick to log back into an Instagram account?
I was dumb lost the account password. I would love any tips you can give me!
@Darren Alexis Instablaster ;)
Not sure why any of these get a thumbs down. You're watching these as an enthusiast and these guys are telling their story
One of my favorite episodes
This guy says it all, when talking about the future of the watch industry: Too many complications and too expensive. The current philosophy is not through survival by encouraging a new generation to buy, its expecting the older generation, and the mega rich to continue buying garish pieces that alienate an entire potential group of buyers who might have a watch to compliment their smart phone. How many graduates can afford 90% of his collection new? Not many, and that's sad because as a tool, they are supposed to be affordable. When you buy a Rolex, Patek etc you are paying for expensive marketing and ads that only push up the bottom line! What you should be paying for is the piece itself. Cost is in the eye of the buyer, I get it, but for self preservation of the industry, there needs to be better access if it is to survive!
meh..I disagree. the prices have been pushed up to cater for an emerging nuevo rich. in the 90s a Rolex would cost 2/5ths of what it does today. Nothing has changed, especially in the steel variety. if anything the price of steel went down. A lot has to do with the price of the Swiss franc which is too strong, even for the Swiss. while your point is valid, I don't think it gets to the crux of the issue which is that the watch companies have gotten greedy of the Arab and Chinese market. however, with those slowing down they are bring down prices for the traditional markets that have been more consistent and will continue to be so.
orlando124431 brilliant
very well said
orlando124431 I agree with you...very good analysis. The well know brands (Rolex, Omega and so on) have been pushed away from middle-class into the nouveau rich class.
Having said that, now that the chinese market pretty much collapsed they're bringing down the prices. Rolex just lunched the AirKing or whatever is called that costs like 3-4 k $
And please don't forget that there are HUNDREDS of amazing watches from 500$ to 3k $ that the middle class can tap into.
Hamilton has amazing watches for 1k $ or under ( ETA movement, sapphire glass, open-heart, open back ).
There has NEVER been a better time to be a watch collector or just consumer.
orlando124431 , e.g. At the begining era of Rolex Submariner , these are considered a watch tool whiose prices suround USD 700, absolutely afordable for many people, after the Quartz era they becomes in a luxury pieces.
“..I’m surprised why De Bethune watches don’t have a 5 yr waiting list” I went online to check them out and a watch is around $100k 😂
Tbf pateks and rolexes have long waiting lists too
@@youraveragepasser-by7367 right but Rolex retail is $15
This dude's first two watches ever were an Omega and a Rolex....
He got that Omega when he was 7....
Little shit
Omega and Rolexes were not that expensive at the time. A submariner was $200 (or $1400 in today’s dollars when adjusted for inflation) in the 1970s. Not cheap but certainly not inaccessible.
@@zekevfab inaccessible for a 7 year old 🤣
My god that datograph is amazing!
This guy might be one of my new favorite collectors to follow. His history with watches and what he admires is so similar to mine and my interests. His sensibility is really refreshing and grounded in a pure love of watches.
That Laurent Ferrier is a thing of beauty... actually scrap that, his whole collection is a thing of beauty!
An Omega 120 Seamaster at 7...? :O
It used to be very cheap...
He's Swiss and back then stuff was cheap
@@youraveragepasser-by7367 For perspective, how cheap is cheap?
@@kenlimfornication probably a month's salary. Pretty affordable compared to nowadays where you'd have to work for years
@@youraveragepasser-by7367 I won’t give my kid a watch worth a months salary…
I absolutely agree with him. I was thinking the same thing the other day that I envy the guy who has just one watch and he's content with it. That guy is truly lucky.
“In a way, I aspire to be a guy with one watch.”
The best thing I heard in all the episodes I’ve seen so far
Hands down, best collection I have ever seen! Started very well and then just grew from there.
Refreshing to hear such a connoisseur acknowledge mistakes he's made in the past (quartz Datejust vs. 1019)
This guy knows what he's talking.
Amazed.
Great Ep.
My favourite 'talking watches' episode. Love his passion.
still my favorite episode. The sheer depth and diversity of the collection is amazing.
A true collector who understands. And a great guy.
Great episode, one of my favorites. I don't understand why people must say something about someone's wealth or if they have a silver spoon. Who cares if his family has money, the man has a great love and passion for watches. People on these comments should stop being bitter and enjoy the stories these guests have to share with us. Salute to you Mr. Massena
Alta Vista...wow...we have come a long way. LOL.
I greatly respect this guy - something so incredibly genuine and non-egotistical about him in this video. "I greatly aspire to be that guy with one watch" -- there's something so human, admission of a struggle, that's really rare in these videos.
Arjun Thakkar please. He moderates a "watch forum" like he owns the world. Major douche.
This guy is insightful with a great collection. Whatever you say about him, he has his finger on the pulse of the watch industry. This video was made in 2016, and looking back on the 3 year watch bubble craze.... he was completely right. People look at a watch and don't ask "what does it do" but "how much does it cost?"
For me idk what it is but this is the most, “real”, collector in talking watches so far.
despite the re-uploads, great vid to rewatch. total respect for this guy and his outlook towards watches, and support of the tiny independent producers!
Love this episode. A diverse collection of meaningful, purposeful pieces. Bravo!
This was a great episode, he is a true collector, very diverse, was buying Lange early on, also some amazing independents. We need more Talking Watches!!!!
Probably the greatest collection I've seen.
one of the best in this series so far
This was most likely the most enjoyable interview on Hoodikee so far. My much respect for the geneuine passion and knowledge of the guest. I laughed a lot in certain parts as well.
I love this edition and have lost track of how many times I've watched it. I think WM represents the best side and sentiments of this hobby in this video.
“I’m not into underline collecting... or Comex letter collecting.” Finally I hear somebody say it! Lol.
Very extraordinary and entertaining, I love it. The home story and growth of a collector is extraordinary. I wish I could afford these beautiful watches but I will settle for my Seiko for now. At least your show shows me the beauty of the world of watches and interesting accomplished people.
The A. Lange & Sohne datograph flyback is my dream watch
Great watch but a bit thick. Should check out the 1815 chronograph
Best episode so far.
By far the best talking watches
love this one, definitely one of the better episodes
This guy is fantastic!
"I aspire to be a guy with one watch"... exactly! Now I mostly wear 1 watch 😰😁
Nice collection,humble guy..like it
One of the best videos on RUclips.
Could quite be my favorite episode.
Great episode. Great insights.
Great guy so blunt loved it 👍🏽
watching this years later, I appreciate the non "celebrities" (film etc) except Daniel Kim, that was great
Great video great conversation. One glaring edit issue however, they discussed the A. Favre, yet showed the H. Moser he was wearing, yet never mentioned. (@ 9:35 to 9:44)
One of the best. 👍👍
Great character ! Great watches ! And some sad facts !
My favorite collection so far. Would love to mimic.
The Sinn EZM1 you got to love them :)
Very interesting interview!
Best talking watches ever
Ooff..
Amazing collection.
A punch in the stomach as John C Mayer would say :)
My fave so far.. this guy is cool
Good to see Varys from Game of Thrones has an unexpected hobby
LMAO
Great video such an interesting guy.
He makes my day, on top of all "things" he showed the "Sinn", telepaticly the same love as mine!!! ( missing Jaeger Lecoulter, whyyyyyyyy? :D)
I'm newish to watch collecting have to agree Sinn's are grossly underappreciated by the watch aficionados who inhabit the luxury market. More original dial designs, excellent fit and finish and seems to king of hill for price to valve (like the 556i)
My first watch was a Jurassic Park Lost World watch from Burger King. Almost an Omega Seamaster.
classic
"I aspire to be a guy with one watch!"
Second favorite video after Jean Claude Biver, Dammit Swiss know their watches.
2:35 i love the oysterquartz watches
I think most of us aspire to be someone with one watch... but perfectionism is tricky. I so badly want to sell them all, keep one, and forget about it.
The guy on the right is being played by the method actor Paul Pluto.
Opulence Luxury hahahahaha dead on
two years old....but still a great comment.....respecktos.
"The French lose wars but make great military watches" haha! True.
Love that Minerva Chronograph
oh yeah! beautiful watches
that leica iii pretty slick too
This is the petrolicious of watches!
I’m not a Patek guy but I love that watch at 4:54.
Reupload?
Why was H. Moser shown on the wrist when a different watch was being discussed?
I wonder why he's surprised he owns a Navitimer?...it's beautiful.
I love seeing watches wicks and dings
12:56 I disagree I’m 14 and my siblings and friends all love watches at school half the people are into watches so in my opinion the introduction of more stylish watches (less complications) actually brought back attention to older ones and more of a younger demographic
The Apple Watch has brought a new generation into mechanical watches and in a way saved the Swiss watch industry
smart guy.
I blame Kevin for the re-uploads
This fella is cool....I like him
When he had your dream watch at 6 years of age haha great video
i am that guy, and the watch is casio f-91w for life :)
Best one
I would like to know the maker of that overcoat, beautiful burgundy hue.
To be fair though, the Oysterquartz is a lovely watch ❤
I aspire to be a guy with 1 watch... yes! me too! :))
i, remember rolex surrounding their lume, this made them fancier than the 6309- xxx seiko l had,
What military Watches to buy?
Why has this been repeated?
+mengai1967 They are probably not making enough from their extremely overpriced and self-hyped shop
Man, I wish I was content with just one watch...
Type 20 is so cool
I can’t imagine having that many watches I’d feel so bad not wearing them all.
9:33 talking about A.Favre & Fils, yet its wrist shot is at 9:45 is an H.Moser & Cie? and then movement shot back to A.Favre. lol
i know. laziness in the b roll.
11:35 can someone tell the name of the watch I couldn't find it, thanks!
Sinn EZM1.
Thank you!
Please try and get together with Michael Blakey
Somehow i really love that rolex at 4:00. Can someone give me the exact reference?
Red Rolex Submariner 1680 with the brown (most likely)
Red Submariner tropical dial
"In a way I aspire to be a guy with one watch."
Why the surprise that he had a 'Navitimer'? I got the impression you viewed it as a negative. Excuse my ignorance but are Breitling's not a worthy maker to own or collect? I've owned a couple over the years and think they are very good watches. Any comments?
I limit myself to a 10 watch collection. I either have to sell something or not buy it at all.
An Omega at 7 years old?
anti-left crusader back then it wasn’t that expensive
you're missing a Seiko
He's swiss, he can't wear a Seiko.
Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy He has no Problem buying a German watch