1.6HDi new EGR valve recalibration or reconfiguration, how to with Diagbox or PP2000
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- Опубликовано: 14 авг 2024
- You would need to re-calibrate a new 1.6HDi EGR valve and this is how you can do it.
The car is a turbo diesel 1.6HDi Peugeot Partner (2007; M59; ~103,000 miles or ~166.000 km), the same as a Citroen Berlingo.
If you have cleaned your EGR valve in the 1.6HDi, you do not need to recalibrate, recode or reset the EGR valve in the ECU settings. If you are replacing an old EGR valve, then you need to reconfigure the new EGR valve, so the ECU will know where the position of the small pin is (max and min).
I am using diagbox interfrace and the diagbox software. This could be purchased on ebay for example. The software runs on Windows XP and should potentially run on Windows 7. My car is Peugeot Partner, so I am using PP2000 or Peugeot Planet 2000 to reconfigure the EGR valve. For Citroen is the same diagbox software, but instead of Peugeot Planet 2000 one can use Lexia and the menu looks almost the same.
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00:00 - 00:21 Introduction
00:21 - 03:33 Spare EGR and Diagbox EOBDII Interface
03:33 - 05:25 Starting Diagbox & PP2000
05:25 - 06:23 Scan the ECU for errors
06:23 - 08:47 EGR valve recalibration
08:47 - 10:14 Test the operation of the EGR valve
10:46 - 11:41 Final words
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Hi, what you explained is very important for the proper functioning of the EGR valve. The same procedure can also be performed when cleaning the valve. Unfortunately this valve is a weak point for DV6 engines fitted to both Citroen / Peugeot and Ford. Often this valve blocks or malfunctions and the engine loses power.
On Ford engines the same procedure can be done with an ELM327 interface, a laptop and the Forscan free software.
Congratulations for the video and greetings from Italy.
Great channel mate I’ve learnt a lot from your videos thank you 👍🏼
Just found your channel, man, top content for us with dv6 engines. Been struggling with a mint looking C5 estate 1.6 hdi. (dv6ted4HZ)The car is so nice, but I cant get the engine to fire. So as you mentioned Lexia/Diagbox/PP2000, it is worth mentioning that 32 bit OS is the way to go, even as a guest in a virtual machine. Most pre-2008 cars, that is. BTW, hope your coffee gets you going tomorrow): Thanks, outstanding upload, awesome channel!
Thank you appreciate it! Yes, should have probably mentioned that it has to be 32bit OS. Any coffee will be enjoyed and thank you!
Hi buddy, I followed your video to clean the egr valve on my 2010 C4 hdi 1.6 and it seemed to have sorted the faults I had (super easy to follow for a beginner like me, you are a true hero). However, a month later and the faults have reappeared today - I am wondering what my next steps should be? Should I try another clean? Should I now try replacing the egr valve completely? Any help would be hugely appreciated.
Nice video
I have a Citroen C4 1.6 HDI 90hp 2007 . In the morning it does not work stable, with a stable idle. When the engine is cold in the acceleration from 1000 turns to about 2000 turns the engine makes a rattling. It's like some injectors dont work or work badly. Over 2000 turns, it works better and accelerates. Rattling is still there but very little. When is warmed up work at low turns okay with almost no rattling. At a stable speed low (under 2000 turns and 1 or 2 gear) the car jerk little. The injectors are OK (I had sent them to a workshop and we had received new codes) obd codes does not show something.I changed the EGR last year. Fuel Pressure Sensor 1 week ago. Before two weeks I had changed the BSM (new). Sporadically the OBD appears P0490 electric egr valve position copy signal insufficient opening of the valve and P1162 electric egr valve position copy signal valve jammed while driving. I took the EGR out, I cleaned it and i made a reprogramming with superscan3. No codes more but the rattling problem is still there. What do you mean??
OK, a lot of things going on. Best is to first address the error codes that appear and then move on to the others. Rattling can be from multiple things and more difficult to pinpoint.
I have not heard about the superscan3. As far as I know, only Diagbox/Lexia can do the re-programming of the EGR. I would say to monitor the error codes and if the EGR reappear again then you would need to find Diagbox/Lexia to re-program or re-learn. The injectors also need to be coded for the engine. Did you recode them? Maybe they are coded to the ECU and hence the bad knocking/rattling. If the superscan3 can do live data, see what the individual correction values are for the 4 injectors. Anything more 1-1.5 or less than -1 or -1.5 is on the suspicious side of things.
Hey again.
Been doing loads of work. Swapped the no name (new) egr for a Valeo one and the fault codes that I used to get are gone.
I did also have a spare air doser/throttle body laying around (since theese can leak pretty bad) so I swapped that also.
But now I get a pending P0100 code instead 😢
The P0100 could be MAF sensor issue. If I were you I would disconnect the MAF and see if it makes a difference. If there is no change then the MAF is likely to be the cuplrit.
I have a Peugeot partner tepee 1.6 hdi and it started jerking some time ago. I have changed the turbo cartridge but that had nothing to do with the problem at hand.
Now I get jerking like small stalls. I changed it to a new one, used Diagbox 9.86 and followed the instructions for replaced egr. But problem is still there and now I have fault code p1462. Had some other codes before but I switched back the electric component of the egr just to test.
But it is diagbox I am using. Not PP2000. I have PP2000 in a VM but it does not work when I get to that part of replace egr.
What am I missing? Going bananas here.
Doing the actuator tests for egr I hear loud and clear clicks.
Any help is appreciated.
I would say to disconnect the MAF sensor and see if that helps return things to normal. If nothing changes when the MAF is disconnected then it is likely that the MAF is faulty and you may need to replace it.
I replaced my egr with a brand new one on a Volvo C30 1.6D and I getting anti skid messages and when I get this message car dosen't have normal engine power. I got two codes P0490 Exhaust gas recirculation control circuit A high and P138B .
When it is a new EGR you would need to recalibrate the EGR valve. The ECU does not know where the max/min of the piston within the new EGR valve are. Not too sure how you do it in Volvo, or I do not know the software.
Hi! I found this video while searching for a solution on my 2005 1.6 HDI Peugeot 307. I had problems with the original EGR around 520.000km. So I’ve bought a used one and worked for few thousand km and then the car started to shut off when driving and the minimum rpm was jumping high and low. After that I’ve decided to buy a new one from eBay and I’ve reprogrammed it with DiagBox (strangely pp2000 wont recognise my ECU) but I’ve managed to calibrate it with diagbox. Everything works fine but after shutting off the engine and then turn it on again, antipollution fault comes back on with check engine light. Diagbox finds various problems, which are about the EGR position. The car drives really well but when the antipollution fault comes on it won’t go over 3000rpm sometimes. Do you have an idea why the calibration won’t work? Maybe the ECU won’t recognise an aftermarket EGR? Thank you 🙏🏼
Hi Riccardo, I had a similar problem. I bought a brand new replacement EGR (Haas), recalibrated it and everything, it was working alright, but it was giving errors. Sometimes it was getting stuck. I opened it and the channel inside was not machined really well and the pin with the two rollers at both sides was getting stuck. See if you can open it and see if the small pin moves freely, otherwise if the calibration is successful, there should not be problems. Since that one, I bought Hela and never had problems with it since then.
Hope you're feeling better after you're covid situation... EGR function. I have replaced the EGR with new EGR and i have the problem that midway driving the EGR is opening and closing feels like I'm running through a puddle water constant dip in power .... i have a remapping dude that will need to clear code and remap the car according. Like you say replacing EGR 50/50 shot it will be fine ore not..
Hi Peter, not too sure about what covid situations you mentioned, but you are right, sometimes it works sometimes not. To be certain, it needs recalibration.
Hello, great video. Just a quick question. I replaced my egr valve recently and now I am getting fault codes p0490 and p1459 as well as a little hesitation under load. Is it because it needs to be programmed.
Thanks
Jon
Hi Jon, maybe, but it is not entirely clear. It could be that the new EGR valve is faulty or that it was not calibrated. Most people would think a new EGR is perfect but not always. I had a brand new EGR that was sticking due to bad machining of surfaces.
@@moremolecules hi
@@muhammadsanee5870 hi
If EGR is off from soft (im not sure it s done correct), with a new recalibration from Diagbox it will work as stock again (factory setings)?. A few years ago i had some pb with EGR and someone did an EGR off from soft, but this days i had some pb with car ( not starting) and find EGR stuck open . I started somehow and i want to buy an new one and to make her to work properly, can i doit from Diagbox with an new recalibration?
Not too sure how the EGR can be off from the software, but you can certainly recalibrate any EGR from the software and it should work as intended, as long as the EGR works in itself.
Hello can you tell me where does the solenoid fit into the valve and where does the position of the valve have to be as I am unsure / any help would be great thank you as you have the only video that shows someone removing the solenoid
Which solenoid, the top electronic part of the EGR? I have several videos that show how to put it back together, but maybe the question is different. Browse my EGR videos and you will find the ultimate EGR cleaning and a video about the top part itself.
I think I have to do something similar I have changed the turbo actuator and position sensor on peugeot 1.6 HDI but fault code is not going away but vehicle is driving very good again would you be able to explain how I make changes please with PP2000 thank you
Is this a camshaft sensor? I do not think there are any configuration parameters for these. Both of these are plug'n'play, nothing to configure.
@@moremoleculesThank you for the reply this is a position sensor to activate the the turbo wastegate or turbo actuator I've been told after fitting these parts you need to recalibrate the parameters in the ECU similar to what you explained with the EGR valve
@@scotmorley8526 I suspect that is the 110bhp 1.6HDi as my 92bhp does not have the position sensor. It should be somewhere there in the menu of the PP2000. Unfortunately mine does not have, so difficult to show with PP2000/Lexia.
how much does the diagbox tool cost, i changed the egr but a new simular code showed up instead of them getting removed?
Yeah, depends if you want legeal diagbox, then it is quite a bit with I think the newer versions annual charge. You could buy the tool and software from ebay and it does not cost that much, but it is illegal and it is up to you if you want to buy it.
Yes, new EGR needs to be recoded or relearned as it is not plug'n'play.
Hi I done this today after egr replacement. But it's still lumpy/ rough idle when cold . Any ideas why or does it take time to learn the new egr the original was a valeo . But the mechanic basically lied to me and put a delphi on and charged me oe price. And good videos mate..used a few of yours now good information
Delphi and Valeo probably the same quality. Do you have any errors regarding the EGR valve? It might be something else, for example MAF sensor. If I were you and you do not have any EGR errors, I would unplug the MAF sensor before starting the car and see if that changes anything.
I changed my egr on a 2.0 hdi because the car was jerking on acceleration. But that made the problem worse.
My mechanic tested to block the egr and the problem was gone (he reprogrammed the egr previously). What could it be? the egr pressure converter?
If you have replaced it with a new valve, it needs to be re-calibrated with Diagbox (Lexia for Citroen and PP2000 for Peugeot) in order for it to work properly. They just get clogged and become sticky to respond to close when under acceleration, hence blocking it would cure it. Sometimes new valves are not as good as the original ones, I had one where it was not machined properly and there was a snag in the channel.
I cleaned the EGR valve a year ago and today it came out a DTC P0402 Exhaust Gas Recirculation (EGR) System - Excessive flow detected. I also cleaned the curved pipe that goes into the manifold. I wonder if I should clean it again or buy a new one, Hella is a trusted brand? Could it be caused by a faulty MAP sensor? No signs of bad engine behaviour, just the message faulty anti-pollution system. Do you know of any cheap diagnostics tool valid for various car brands, Peugeot and Opel? Can you test the turbo electrovalve as well with the engine running? EGR valve P/N 1618.NR?
I really like my Hella EGR valve, pretty trusted. I replaced mine with Hella a couple of years ago and have not had problems. The recalibration can only be done with Diagbox or PP2000 (part of diagbox) for Peugeot and Lexia (part of diagbox) for Citroen. It cannot be done with any other OBDII scanner. It is likely to be the EGR rather than MAF. Not too sure about anu good cheap OBDII device. I have tried at least 3 different brands (cheap) and only one worked after a lengthy trial and error, but I was using iPhone and that is problematic with these. With Android any should work alright, althoughmost do not quite work with the OBD port of the Peugeot/Citroen. It is pure luck to be honest. Go with whichever says works with Peugeot/Citroen, but still it is a bit of luck.
I would clean it again, if you can erase the errors and see if it comes up again. These are generally temporary errors, so if you clean it and that was the cause it would not show anymore, but it will be logged in the ECU.
I had a new Haas (as in F1) EGR valve to replace my original one. I thought since they are in F1 their parts should be good. This valve gave so many errors in the first few months. I opened it and the channel for the pin above the valve was not machined correctly, i.e. smoothly enough and it was sticking from time to time. I bought a Hella and have not had problems since.
Hello, I changed my egr valve and it keeps giving me code dtc p401 the car in cold shakes, what could be the fault? After this, cancel the egr with a sheet and the shaking is gone
It is likely that the new EGR is somewhat stuck on opened position or needs calibration. If an EGR valve is stuck in the opened position you would get shakes or rough idle. Exactly why when you blank it the shaking stops. It could be that the EGR valve is faulty, it has hapenned to me before with a brand new valve. The pin channel was not machined well and sometimes the pin got stuck at some position. Most people would not notice if the EGR is stuck on the closed position. Recalibrate it if you can and see if that helps. If it does not open it and investigate how well the pin is moving.
Hey! Was it working wrong after you replaced EGR valve in the past? Also, couldn’t notice the absence of the oil catch can. Did you return to the factory version, when oil is dumped to the turbo?
Yes, I removed the oil catch can as I needed to go through the annual safety inspection (MOT in the UK). The oil catch can is deemed tampering with the emissions from the car and it would not have passed. I just have not had the time to put it back in, but will do so later on. I just have to do some additional tests I have in mind without an oil catch can.
My original EGR valve was competely stuck on the closed position and I could not bring it back to life, there was something wrong with the electronic components. The new one has been working without a problem for ~2 years. I cleaned it once during this time.
Buna am un peugeot 307 diesel 2 litri am inlocuit egr am pus un egr loro am facut o adaptare cu o diagnoza si a mers 360 de km dupa care sa aprins martorul de la motor si mesajul anti polare Am incercat cu o diagnoza peugeot dar cel care a folosito a spus ca nu are functie pentru acea eroare 1461 cu ac si sid 803 lerning Va rog daca puteti sa ma ajutati si pe mine va multumesc
Sorry about the late reply, but you seems to have changed the EGR. What did you replace it with?
@@moremolecules Va multumesc foarte mult pentru ajutor am inlocuit egr cu unul foarte ieftin Loro si a aparut cod de eroare 1461 cred lerning adica invatare Am fost la un servis care au folosit soft ca al dumneavoastra si am calibrat au spus ca nu va merge pentru ca nu este original am insistat am calibrat cum a ti spus dumneavoastra si am parcurs in jur de 950 km Nu mai sant probleme merge foarte bine
Just stumbled on your video by mistake’glad I did. I’ve just replaced the EGR valve on my Vauxhall insignia but I didn’t know they had to be calibrated can you tell me what I can use to calibrate it’thanks
Not too sure about Vauxhall. It depends if it is electronic EGR or vacuum one. If it is vacuum operated there is no need to do a relacibration. If it is electronic then it should be done, but the software will be specific to Vauxhall. Not too sure what the right one is.
@@moremolecules yeah it’s electronic’ok thanks
Hi thanks for the reply on your other video, it was on the wrong way but still went into limp mode then opened after 20 miles or so,
I bought another egr but seems like I need to calibrate it as it’s still the same, Is there no other way apart from diagbox? As I don’t have that! Thanks
Unfortunately no, there might be some other professional tools that can do the same job, but I do not know them.
Hi, fitted a new EGR as the old one was sticking and blowing black smoke and loss of acceleration, and exactly the same fault with newly fitted one. So does the EGR setting remain the same as the old, like as if it was stuck open? hence the reason for recalibrating? I just thought the ECU would relearn by itself, some say remove the battery for 30 mins for reset.
Hi Gaz, the ECU would be able to move the new EGR to some extent. The reason for recalibration is to teach the ECU where exactly are the 0% and 100% EGR or completely closed/opened position. Sometimes, there might not be that much of a difference between an old and a new EGR, but sometimes there will be a big difference. A new EGR would not remain in the stuck position, but the ECU does not know exactly where is the 0% and 100%, only knows the old colfiguration. So, the ECU thinks that it is giving say 15% EGR, but the EGR is giving say 30% EGR or vice versa. This might result in some rough idling, poor consumption, poor start, etc.Unfortunately, the ECU would not be able to re-learn the EGR and a battery reset would not help either.
@@moremolecules Thanks, really appreciated! Very helpful.
I think the ECU firmware can learn only a very narrow range of open and closed voltages so many new Egr valves do not calibrate as they are already out of range. one possibility occured to me is that they did a firm are update to accommodate their own ECU voltages so as to force people to go to main dealers for a firmware and part matching. Just what I suspect ......no evidence to back this but I have tried cloning ECUs and using many new and second hand egrs. Even tried an external potentiometer with some success except it chenged open and closed voltages the same.
Hmm, interesting point. I have never had problem with calibrating a new EGR valve. As far as I know, at least for my model, the main dealer only uses the same software for the calibration of a new EGR. They do not update the firmware to accomodate ECU voltages. Good comment though, more research needed :-) Thanks
Hi, does this adapter also work on eg Citroen Berlingo 1.6 Hdi from 2012 for calibrating an egr valve, or other new parts? Thank you in advance.
Yes it will work with 2012 Berlingo. In that case it is Lexia rather than PP2000, but comes from the same diagbox software. They are almost interchangeable, for example I have tried Lexia with my Peugeot Partner and it does work.
Thank you sir, I will keep you informed.
Hi I bought brand new same like that yours diagnostic but I don't know which windows I need to use xp or I can use windows 7 any advice please thank you.
Both would work. I use XP, but windows 7 will also work.
Do I need that Lexia3 connection interface? or can I just buy a obd2 cable to usb off eBay for £10? , can you use pp2000 with cheap cable.
There is nothing special about the cable, but it needs to be the same spec as the Lexia3 interface. Not too sure though if a generic obdii to usb would work, but it might. Sorry about the vagueness, I have not tried it with a generic cable, worth a try I suspect.
Hi, my friend,
very useful video,
exactly what I need.
I changed the EGR valve and I wonder why it doesn't work. Soon will change and turbo solenoid.
Do you think I have to do configuration?
Thank you so much.
Hi Alex, the turbo solenoid does not need configuration, but a new EGR needs a configuration.
How would you debug this SUDDEN ABS OBD error message? "Incorrect matching of the ECU (incorrect engine, system or vehicle). Fit a correct ECU." ?
Have you by any chance changed the ECU. Could be a bad connection, either the EOBD itself or the interface
@@moremolecules They are all the original parts, except for brake pads and disks. How do I find the connections to check?
@@RGSneaker What I meant was disconnect the interface and try again. Also, you need the car battery fully charged, otherwise you could get the error message. Also, I suspect you have chosen the correct vehicle as well in the menu.
Thx man
Do you know of any manual to see all the potential things you can do with this diagnostics tool? Signals readings and plotting, advanced fault codes, guided diagnostics...I guess they have a more complete diagnostics tool at the Peugeot workshops .
I do not think there are manuals for Diagbox, although there might be something somewhere, but I have not seen it. The full version has a lot more in terms of diagnostic of the error codes, but as functionality is pretty much the same. Yes, you could get all sorts of data and export the raw data and plot them as you like. The full version is a pretty expensive affair.
@@moremoleculesWhat Diagbox version do you need to do basic things? 7.02v is ok? Do you really need to get all the updates? When do you have to connect the cable? Before or after opening Diagbox and choosing the car model?
@@csraln6748 Yes, 7.02 is absolutely fine. Of course it depends on how new your car is. Mine is 2008 and 7.02 can do all the stuff. I even had 6. something and everything was absolutely fine. You do not need the updates. If your car is newer, say 2015 onwards, then you may need a newer version.
@@moremolecules 308 from 2008/9 aswell. PP2000 (600.76) is not working properly because it only displays BSI and Engine/Gearbox under Test by ECU/ECU configuration and services and it does not get to connect to any system (Functionality not available!), Test by ECU and Downloading are the only options displayed at the beginning. On the other hand I have full access using Diagbox instead of PP2000 but I don't know where to find the EGR valve recalibration function if possible, it's a totally different menu. It's ok to use Diagbox on a Peugeot? On both diagnostics tools the VIN is retrieved automatically, DAM is not needed. Internet access is available. PS It takes ages for Diagbox to get all applications closed, is it normal?
@@csraln6748 As far as I know, but have not explored really well, the diagbox will do the same things but the menus are different. You could upgrade to a different diagbox version to try it out. Could not quite remember what version is mine. Download the up-version of 600.76 and see if PP2000 reads the 2008/2009.
Good day Master , i am a Toyota driver , but i bought a Peugeot Partner for my wife , and i need some help from you .I watched many of yours videos and i want to thank you for yours efforts , and how you explain clearly every detail .
I cleaned as per yours videos my EGR valve , and because i am new in Peugeot i can not do the performance test on it :( .
Infact ,i have chinease Diagbox tool , but i have no choice to see PP2000 and follow yours procedure . Maybe i did not instal properly the software ... When i connect the tool to OBD port and start the Diagbox , after i choose Peugeot Partner model , the program automatically find the VIN number and bring me to menu with 4 options as Repair , Maintenance , New car preparation and one else , and i have no option for P2000 .
I hope you can find for me a minute to guide me out .
Thanks a lot and have a new day .
Vasco
Hi Vasco, this looks like newer version than mine of the DiagBox. I think I installed it once and it was only the DiagBox, which should also work, but the menus are different. I think there is an option to download DiagBox with PP2000 or there is an option during the install to have PP2000. Otherwise, I generally switch off the internet while doing anything with DiagBox/PP2000. See if during the installation there was an option for PP2000. If I were you I would re-install it to make sure that PP2000 is there as an option.
@@moremolecules Hi again :). First i like to thank you for this fast reply .I will try to reinstall the program . It will be pleasure for me to know a nice guy as you , because today people are not too friendly .I will be glad to know your name , that way even when my car will working fine i can say you a small : Have a nice day .
You deserve it . Tonight i will write why i decided to clean the EGR valve and i will see yours opinion about.
@@moremolecules Good morning Master , ours Peugeot Partner got 169 000 km , and i did not knew if timing belt was replaced . So , i replaced it and car started very well and then i cleaned Turbo oil pipe. I did a rod test and all was perfect .Then i noticed a leak from injector number 1 .I took off all injectors to replace the copper seals ,and same time i cleaned nozzles with soft metal brush , then i modified humidifier to 40 kHz (ultrasound ) frequency and cleaned nozzles with water and soap . After installation i did again road test and noticed lack of power when i accelerate . I connected Diagbox , but i am not too familiar with . The only thing i saw was that Air Intake measured value was much HI then reference one ( with around 200 units ).For that reason i decided to clean the EGR valve . I hope you can guide me tom know where can be the mistake .
thanks A LOT in advance , and have a very nice sunny day :).
Vasco
Hi, how need recalibration egr valve in Diagbox not int PP2000?
Hi Justinas, the DiagBox is software with the inteface and contains both PP2000 (Peugeot) and Lexia (Citroen). To recalibrate the EGR in Peugeot one needs to use PP2000 and Lexia for Citroens.
please tell me what you are crawling to diagnose the engine, name. And a link if you can? Я из Украины
The software is called DiagBox and has two things inside, one is PP2000 for Peugeot and one for Citroens called Lexia.
Great video but how do I do this on diagbox I can't find replacement parts
hmm, do you not have pp2000 or Peugeot Plant 2000 (peugeot) or lexia (Citroen) that goes along the diagbox? Generally, both come with diagbox, unless some really new version. At the beginning you get the option to choose PP2000 or Lexia, but I suspect that there might be just diagbox if it is really new versions. What version diagbox do you have
@@moremolecules that came out all wrong my bad🤦 yes I have version 9.129 diagbox
@@JerG39 It should have Lexia/PP2000. Do you not have it?
What is the part you use to connect to car and computer. Can you use any type?
It is called Diagbox diagnostic interface. It contains Lexia 3 (Citroen) and PP2000 for Peugeot. It can be purchased on ebay
Does it work on newer vehicles?
Hi.
I replaced the EGR on my 2009 1.6 HDi Berlingo and recalibrated it with Diagbox but still the Car doesnt feel right.
The Problem is, I have These 3 Codes:
P0409, P0490 & P1459 (all EGR related) but it is Not possible to delete the Codes.
Do You know what could cause this problem?
BTW, great Video!
It is a bit wierd to have these codes with a new EGR. How was it programmed/recalibrated? If it was with Lexia, then I would use Lexia to check the operation of the EGR valve, the percent values for opened/closed. It will give you an idea if it is permanently closed/opened. It might point you in the right direction. These are permanent faults, so likely either the EGR valve is faulty from new or the ECU cannot control it for some reason. I would do an EGR test with Lexia and see if it is clicking and operating as normal.
I am having these issues for years and I still cannot find the solution, I put a new EGR Delphi on my Citroen c4 Picasso and those 3 codes comes up, P0490 , P1459, P0409
I think I fixed the P0409 and the reason seems to be the MAF connector the pins sometimes are pulled back so just push in the cables to restore the pins position fixed that error, but still getting mad with the P1459 and P0490
Along with these errors there are ESP and auto handbrake faulty warnings displayed very annoying
Have you found the error @i.m.22 ???
I am still have those 3 errors, I put a new EGR brand Delphi and it still jerking hesitating and after driving a few miles those errors comes up along with the warnings of electric handbrake and esp.
I read that citroen only like valeo EGR, also it could be an electric issue, a bad cable for example, also the bsi could be the problem, any help on this?
Replaced EGR valve new. calibrate it .
3 week later van loses power on and off sometimes
Do you get any errors?
No errors
@@fordford9133 Was this happening before as well? If not, it is difficult to say. I had a new replacement (Haas) and it did the same thing. I was getting errors. Upon dismantling the EGR, the channel where the rod moves was not smooth at all, so it was snagging from time to time. If I were you I would take it apart and see if everything moves freely and no snagging. It could well be something else, what model/year is the van.
2008 1.6
Ok try that thanks for your help.
Diagbox works on Windows 7/8/10 with no problem. Lexia works ONLY on XP
That's good to know. I always thought they work only on XP. I have only worked with it on XP, but good to know that PP2000 is ok with newer ones.
Where can I buy this program guys? Let me know someone that i can trust, ordered one from China but the disc only included music. Thx
@@Andy_83_SWE You can buy the interface on ebay, the DiagBox software can be downloaded through a variety of torrents.
Is blocking egr valve better than normal condition?
Good question. In my humble opinion it will be better with it than not. Aside the reduced emissions, etc., it still helps with pumping losses for example when one is going downhill or one lifts the throttle and if travelling on motorways/highway when the power request is not really that high. In general it will reduce the burning temperature in the combustion chamber, so it should be beneficial, although some negatives of coating the air intake with oil+carbon is a bit inevitable.
@@Jani9238 There is a lot of debate on this topic! If we look at the subject from a purely mechanical point of view, we should eliminate the EGR, the PCV (oil vapor crankcase ventilation), the DPF / FAP etc ...
Especially on this type of engines (DV6 PSA / Ford) if you remove the intake manifold, where the gases arriving from the EGR meet with the oil vapors, they form a sludge that remains trapped in the manifold, the bulk black group above the engine. Even the passages that should bring fresh air to the combustion chamber are restricted in size by so much dirt remains trapped!
Every 50000 / 60000km it would be necessary to remove the intake manifold, the EGR heat exchanger, the pipes, and clean them completely. I did it on my old Focus and it was hard work!
Ok, we must also think about the environment so if the car has been designed to work with all these devices, to be in compliance with both emissions and the law, it is better to clean the parts and replace the faulty ones.
I add just one thing: in the past on my old Focus I had tried to use a metal plate to block the EGR. But after a few ignitions the error light comes out and in any case in the long run, the engine seemed to no longer work as well as at the beginning, because the ECU "thinks" that the valve is efficient and adjusts the fuel injection based on the data that receives. The only way is to modify the ECU to exclude it electronically. But I do not recommend this kind of modification, especially to avoid any problems if you use the car on public roads. Sorry for my bad English!
@@Jani9238 Generally, it needs a stage I re-map in order to remove the EGR from the ECU, then it will be even better
In the old cars is good to block egr because the ecu dont give fault code. In new cars with dpf this metode can damage the dpf and the ecu takes the car to limp mode. My English is bad sorry 😃
@@Jani9238 Yes, my 1.6HDi 2007 will give an error (I have tried it) with blocked EGR, but it does not have a DPF. So, not all old cars can be easily blocked.
If you only clean it you dont need any calibration? Never?
Hi filippos, it should not be necessary, but one could still do it.