for me best Steffi Graf -377 weeks nr. 1 golden gran slam 1988 ! Serena only had 1 slam more-but played until beeing 37 years old -8 years longer than Graf !
In my mind, Martina Navratilova takes the title of the Greatest of All Time in tennis, no doubt. Just consider the unparalleled number of titles she accumulated in both singles and doubles. Despite winning 18 Grand Slam singles titles, slightly fewer than Graf or Serena, it's crucial to recognize the context - she skipped several Grand Slam events when they were not as prominent in the early days. Additionally, her predominantly serve-and-volley style, a rarity in singles during her era and virtually non-existent today, adds to her uniqueness. Anyone who plays and watches tennis would know how difficult it is to win a full-scale match with serve-volley. In terms of accomplishments and skills, Martina stands out as the GOAT, at least until someone surpasses her remarkable achievements. However, it is highly unlikely that anyone will achieve more than she did - number wise.
He got it totally WRONG!!!. To be the GOAT you need to take EVERYTHING into consideration!!!. All these players played Singles, Doubles and Mixed Doubles. So Martina is the GOAT without question!!!. 167 MAJOR SINGLES TITLES, 177 MAJOR DOUBLES TITLES, 56 GRAND SLAM TITLES more than any other player!!!. It's got nothing to do with percentages or a Golden Slam. Martina was also 12 years OLDER than Graff and she played at the start along with the other women with WOODEN RACQUETS!!!. That would have taken away all the power from Graf and Serena Williams and they wouldn't have won the amount of Slams that they did. Court's record is false as very few players went to Australia. Martina also holds the WORLD RECORD of 9 Wimbledon Singles Titles and her achievements will never be equalled never mind beaten!!!. 😊
I disagree with your assessment. I think you need to look at the competition each player had and what they brought to the sport besides just tennis wins. Also, the total money won isn't pertinent as, women's tennis didn't start making large sums until the 80s and later. Martina has the most MATCH wins, most slam wins, most womens wimbeldon singles wins, etc. She also had played against Billie Jean King, Evonne Goolagong, Venus Williams, Steffi Graff, Hanna Manikilova, Monica Seles, Chri Evert, Gabriel Sabitini, etc. The first six years of Martina's career she had no coach or other professionals helping/training her. She had to defect so she could play the tournaments. Once she got a coach, she was on her way with a new fitness regime that changed women's tennis. I also have to state that I like the serve and volley players better that the two-handed back hand,
My top 10 open era only: 1) Graf or S. Williams (really can’t decide because both have credentials that make them the female GOAT) 2) Graf or S. Williams 3) Navratilova 4) Evert 5) Court (only counts 11 of her 24 major singles titles) 6) King (only counts 9 of her 12 major singles titles) 7) Seles 8) Henin 9) V. Williams 10) Goolagong
Sadly, like most other lists, this list lacks historical perspective. People tend to forget players from the early days of tennis...players such as Suzanne Lenglen, Helen Wills Moody, etc... My top ten... 1. Lenglen 2. Serena 3.Navratilova 4. Graf 5. Court 6. Connolly 7. Wills Moody 8. Evert 9. King T10. Bueno, Venus, Seles.
Same slam count, more slam finals, more Olympic gold, more singles titles, accomplished doubles career vs nothing, favorable h2h. Of course Venus is above Hénin.
Monica Seles was the greatest! At the time of her stabbing she'd won 7 of the previous 8 Grand Slams, and owned Steffi Graf. She dominated like no other.
Seles most definitely never “owned” Graf. At the time of the stabbing their head to head was 6-4 for Graf not to mention that Seles was 1-3 against Graf during 1991&1992, her best years.
Sure, 5 or six of your pics are correct. Your order is questionable though. And the fact that Lenglen, Little Mo, and Helen Wills are not included is blasphemous.
SG was longer #1, had more GS titles, all majors at least 4 times, the Golden Slam und the Super Slam 1987-88 within one year. #2 MN, #2 Serena Williams, #4 CE.
The doubles cannot be included - it's a team. And there are many players who are in the ranking of the WTA only in the 400s or 500s and could win major titles in doubles. Any questions?
You left out Hingis drug problems and Henins cheating problem and Margaret Courts problems w gays and the fact she won a lot of her Slams when other players did not travel to Australia...
Yes…and she did play longer than most female tennis players who had to retire because of all their injuries…it takes a toll on you. If Steffi had played a year or two longer, maybe she would have been able to get one more grand slam title. Still, she wouldn’t even come close to the number of years that Serena Williams was able to endure on the court. You could see some of the injuries that each had to play through…I don’t know how they did it, quite frankly. For Steffi, it was her knees and her back while Serena had a major scare with her PE- pulmonary embolism which is very dangerous and required her to lose almost 1 year until her MD’s could get that straightened out. Seriously, that IS a big deal. She also suffered from knee problems, shoulder, Achilles…basically, her whole body. Yes, they are all professionals and they make excellent money. However, they train incredibly hard, have to travel so much and no, they don’t get that much time to look at the scenery where they are staying. I am rambling, didn’t sleep all night- have another MD appointment today so…I just get nervous about them is all. I just don’t like going to Lahey Clinic! I had one last Friday, one today and another on the 5th of December. Okay….shower time. Thanks for not commenting in a negative light. It’s appreciated…..
I disagree regarding Graf over Martina . Graf’s record will always be tainted because the Seles stabbing. Seles was on the brink of passing Graf in success rate . Graf will always be over rated to me
Definatly Steffi Graf, better than Serena Willliams. Less losses in more matches, more titles in WTA, more weeks as No.1 and retired much earlier (shorter career). Dominated much more and didn´t look like a fad monkey. Only counting this 1 GS-tiltle is weak... Graf started with 13 her pro-career, she was that good, that Boris Becker had to practise with her as a 15 year old guy (2 years later he won Wimbledon qith17) . Do you know, what difference boys and girls have at this age, there are normally worlds in between. With 11 years she nearly beat a WTA80 at german national championships. Footwork and running abilities not comparable to the elephant Williams 🙂. In her first years, she even not played every Australien Open, because of long distance. And Navratilova was also better than Williams. Courts have been faster at her playing time, much more flexible and technical also better, than baseline-bouncer like Williams or nearly most tennis-players of today.
@@jobuck879 Federer faced 11 world number 1 players in his career... yea thats weak, how come people who comment have no idea what they talking about.... silly people.
@@RealisticAndTrue Federer had one of the weakest eras. Thats a well known fact. The only person who threatened him was Nadal and that was only on clay. Stop fanboying out over him. He really didn’t have as much competition as his predecessors like Agassi and Sampras. Even my husband who just became interested in tennis back in 2017 knows Federer was in a weak era.
@@jobuck879 Tell your husband he needs to watch tennis more, something like 25+ years more like me, and tell him Federer played against: Sampras, Agassi, Roddick, Hewitt, Moya, Saffin, Rafter, Nadal, Djokovic, Murray and Medvedev... 11 former world number 1 players... and your welcome for free lesson in tennis history.
@@RealisticAndTrue He’s just getting into it but I’ve been watching since the late 70’s. Plus I’ve played from middle school until my junior year of college. Federer had a weak era much like Graf. There were fewer players who challenged them than players like Serena and Sampras, Agassi,those are the facts. I mean look at Graf, she won a GS final in under 30 minutes. Who challenged Federer consistently before Nadal, Roddick-pfffttt. Sampras and Agassi were on their way out…look at the era now-Djokovic is still winning but he can’t beat Father Time-but look at the players now-Alvarez, Sinner, Medvedev, Rublev, and few others they would push Federer better than the players he faced.
Serena has more slams in singles, doubles and mixed than Graf, more Olympic gold medals, more tier 1 / wta 1000 equivalent titles, more longevity, yet some people pick Steffi over her because she was number one longer (thanks to Parche) and won a ton of tier 2-3 titles…
He got it right ... When you consider he is not going by how many majors won, he is going by overall play. That makes Serena the GOAT. He is not alone, most tennis player (females) from the eras he's considering agree (with exception of Court). One caveat, Serena Williams herself said, Steffi is the greatest. Of course that was earlier in Serena's career.
@@nikosgr9290 overall play means; you are not a one shot deal. For example most all female players from that era say that Steffi's biggest weapon was her forehand. They also say she had good footwork. They also say, if you can stay away from her forehand, perhaps you had a chance. Here is what they say about Serena, it makes no difference where you place that ball, as she has no weaknesses. She has a great forehand, backhand, return of serve (most of them say the best ever). She has great footwork, everything about tennis she has. That is what is meant by overall play.
Martina did it all 169 singles title 18 singles majors plus all of those major doubles titles with Pam Shriver and others plus mixed doubles titles CLEARLY the best
The doubles cannot be included - it's a team. And there are many players who are in the ranking of the WTA only in the 400s or 500s and could win major titles in doubles. Any questions?
Martinia won first of all 31 grand slam doubles titles and 177 career doubles titles overall and 169 career singles titles overall clearly she is the best female tennis pro ever what a record@@GottdieEhre
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for me best Steffi Graf -377 weeks nr. 1 golden gran slam 1988 ! Serena only had 1 slam more-but played until beeing 37 years old -8 years longer than Graf !
Monica Seles career was cut short
So true
How old (or YOUNG) was she when she came back? For how long more did she play?
In my mind, Martina Navratilova takes the title of the Greatest of All Time in tennis, no doubt. Just consider the unparalleled number of titles she accumulated in both singles and doubles. Despite winning 18 Grand Slam singles titles, slightly fewer than Graf or Serena, it's crucial to recognize the context - she skipped several Grand Slam events when they were not as prominent in the early days. Additionally, her predominantly serve-and-volley style, a rarity in singles during her era and virtually non-existent today, adds to her uniqueness. Anyone who plays and watches tennis would know how difficult it is to win a full-scale match with serve-volley. In terms of accomplishments and skills, Martina stands out as the GOAT, at least until someone surpasses her remarkable achievements. However, it is highly unlikely that anyone will achieve more than she did - number wise.
Too bad Steffi Graf retire at 30..cuold more 4 or 5 grand Slam she can make it
He got it totally WRONG!!!. To be the GOAT you need to take EVERYTHING into consideration!!!. All these players played Singles, Doubles and Mixed Doubles. So Martina is the GOAT without question!!!. 167 MAJOR SINGLES TITLES, 177 MAJOR DOUBLES TITLES, 56 GRAND SLAM TITLES more than any other player!!!. It's got nothing to do with percentages or a Golden Slam. Martina was also 12 years OLDER than Graff and she played at the start along with the other women with WOODEN RACQUETS!!!. That would have taken away all the power from Graf and Serena Williams and they wouldn't have won the amount of Slams that they did. Court's record is false as very few players went to Australia. Martina also holds the WORLD RECORD of 9 Wimbledon Singles Titles and her achievements will never be equalled never mind beaten!!!. 😊
Perfect list! SW! The best to do it!
I disagree with your assessment. I think you need to look at the competition each player had and what they brought to the sport besides just tennis wins. Also, the total money won isn't pertinent as, women's tennis didn't start making large sums until the 80s and later. Martina has the most MATCH wins, most slam wins, most womens wimbeldon singles wins, etc. She also had played against Billie Jean King, Evonne Goolagong, Venus Williams, Steffi Graff, Hanna Manikilova, Monica Seles, Chri Evert, Gabriel Sabitini, etc. The first six years of Martina's career she had no coach or other professionals helping/training her. She had to defect so she could play the tournaments. Once she got a coach, she was on her way with a new fitness regime that changed women's tennis. I also have to state that I like the serve and volley players better that the two-handed back hand,
I think Iga Swiatek will be added to that list in years to come.
If she’s doesn’t run into an Elena Rybakina
Serena and Venus Williams are my favourite ❤
Very nice 👍
My top 10 open era only:
1) Graf or S. Williams (really can’t decide because both have credentials that make them the female GOAT)
2) Graf or S. Williams
3) Navratilova
4) Evert
5) Court (only counts 11 of her 24 major singles titles)
6) King (only counts 9 of her 12 major singles titles)
7) Seles
8) Henin
9) V. Williams
10) Goolagong
Agree. Goolagong must be in the top 10 and not Martina Hingis
Steffi is the GOAT
Sadly, like most other lists, this list lacks historical perspective. People tend to forget players from the early days of tennis...players such as Suzanne Lenglen, Helen Wills Moody, etc... My top ten... 1. Lenglen 2. Serena 3.Navratilova 4. Graf 5. Court 6. Connolly 7. Wills Moody 8. Evert 9. King T10. Bueno, Venus, Seles.
Venus above Henin? 🤣
YES
Jajaja Is a joke
Same slam count, more slam finals, more Olympic gold, more singles titles, accomplished doubles career vs nothing, favorable h2h. Of course Venus is above Hénin.
Steffi is the greatest!!!
It should be MONICA SELES if not the LUNITIC fan of GRAF that stabbed MONICA!
What kept you? Lol
@@TreebeardWoodright..lol
lmao monicas fans … welcome to reality!
Monica Seles was the greatest! At the time of her stabbing she'd won 7 of the previous 8 Grand Slams, and owned Steffi Graf. She dominated like no other.
Seles most definitely never “owned” Graf. At the time of the stabbing their head to head was 6-4 for Graf not to mention that Seles was 1-3 against Graf during 1991&1992, her best years.
I think Maureen Connolly had a higher win percentage at grand slams than any of the ten selected here.
Sure, 5 or six of your pics are correct. Your order is questionable though. And the fact that Lenglen, Little Mo, and Helen Wills are not included is blasphemous.
I would't consider Hingis- she was caught taking doping.
how about helen wills,little mo and lenglen?
Hingis looks really good in those older pics.
For sure Helen Wills Moody, Maureen Connolly and Suzanne Lenglen should be n the list. Those are glaring omissions
Steffi is the GOAT. 👍❤👍
The GOAT in singles is Chris Evert. She won more titles than anyone else. Male or female
No she hasn't.
@@lahnonname8969correct, Martina won more tournaments but Chris had the best winning percentage of 90%
will Swiatek come in this list ??
Nobody knows !🙃🙂😉😊
Martina dominated the sport during the 1980's. She was the best. SG - 2; CE #3.
SG was longer #1, had more GS titles, all majors at least 4 times, the Golden Slam und the Super Slam 1987-88 within one year.
#2 MN, #2 Serena Williams, #4 CE.
Would have thought Hingis would win on the clay with her game.
Elena Rybakina will be on this list soon to come!
No, she will not
it will be a long ass time if not ever …
@@fuckurbody you speak like she’s not already a grand slam champ, and a major talking point in grand slam tournaments?
@@fuckurbody she’s 24 for gods sake, times on her side an the overall ability
@@fuckurbody so again what makes for this comment of absolute absurdity
Adding in all of Martina’s doubles titles she should be #1, not SW or SG.
The doubles cannot be included - it's a team. And there are many players who are in the ranking of the WTA only in the 400s or 500s and could win major titles in doubles. Any questions?
😂😂😂😂
Hinges could have won plenty singles wow what a player and Henin
for me Serena and Venus but Serena is the G.O.A.T
You left out Hingis drug problems and Henins cheating problem and Margaret Courts problems w gays and the fact she won a lot of her Slams when other players did not travel to Australia...
I agree with this list especially #1 ! Serena is the greatest of all time and no one can take that away from her
Yes…and she did play longer than most female tennis players who had to retire because of all their injuries…it takes a toll on you. If Steffi had played a year or two longer, maybe she would have been able to get one more grand slam title. Still, she wouldn’t even come close to the number of years that Serena Williams was able to endure on the court. You could see some of the injuries that each had to play through…I don’t know how they did it, quite frankly. For Steffi, it was her knees and her back while Serena had a major scare with her PE- pulmonary embolism which is very dangerous and required her to lose almost 1 year until her MD’s could get that straightened out. Seriously, that IS a big deal. She also suffered from knee problems, shoulder, Achilles…basically, her whole body.
Yes, they are all professionals and they make excellent money. However, they train incredibly hard, have to travel so much and no, they don’t get that much time to look at the scenery where they are staying.
I am rambling, didn’t sleep all night- have another MD appointment today so…I just get nervous about them is all. I just don’t like going to Lahey Clinic! I had one last Friday, one today and another on the 5th of December.
Okay….shower time. Thanks for not commenting in a negative light. It’s appreciated…..
As usual, the pioneers are left out: Lenglen, Wills Moody for starters...
Why you didnt mention Monica's stabb??
I disagree regarding Graf over Martina . Graf’s record will always be tainted because the Seles stabbing. Seles was on the brink of passing Graf in success rate . Graf will always be over rated to me
Sarena is a great legend
Monica should have at least the 2 place! She was a legend!
Monica Seles. And you know why.
Definatly Steffi Graf, better than Serena Willliams. Less losses in more matches, more titles in WTA, more weeks as No.1 and retired much earlier (shorter career). Dominated much more and didn´t look like a fad monkey. Only counting this 1 GS-tiltle is weak... Graf started with 13 her pro-career, she was that good, that Boris Becker had to practise with her as a 15 year old guy (2 years later he won Wimbledon qith17) . Do you know, what difference boys and girls have at this age, there are normally worlds in between. With 11 years she nearly beat a WTA80 at german national championships. Footwork and running abilities not comparable to the elephant Williams 🙂. In her first years, she even not played every Australien Open, because of long distance. And Navratilova was also better than Williams. Courts have been faster at her playing time, much more flexible and technical also better, than baseline-bouncer like Williams or nearly most tennis-players of today.
You said it was difficult then turned around and nailed it! This will be the list for decades to come. I don’t see it changing in our lifetime.
Martina Navratilova #1 for me
Totally agree 👍👍
Serena the greatest of ALL time.
Never ever. Only 73 titles over all in 20 years...
In my opinion Steffi is the top, winning all 4 grandslams in a calendar year and olympic gold... she is Roger Federer of female division.
You are correct but in the good. Like Federer, Graf had a weak era. That’s why they put up 20+ GS titles.
@@jobuck879 Federer faced 11 world number 1 players in his career... yea thats weak, how come people who comment have no idea what they talking about.... silly people.
@@RealisticAndTrue Federer had one of the weakest eras. Thats a well known fact. The only person who threatened him was Nadal and that was only on clay. Stop fanboying out over him. He really didn’t have as much competition as his predecessors like Agassi and Sampras. Even my husband who just became interested in tennis back in 2017 knows Federer was in a weak era.
@@jobuck879 Tell your husband he needs to watch tennis more, something like 25+ years more like me, and tell him Federer played against: Sampras, Agassi, Roddick, Hewitt, Moya, Saffin, Rafter, Nadal, Djokovic, Murray and Medvedev... 11 former world number 1 players... and your welcome for free lesson in tennis history.
@@RealisticAndTrue He’s just getting into it but I’ve been watching since the late 70’s. Plus I’ve played from middle school until my junior year of college. Federer had a weak era much like Graf. There were fewer players who challenged them than players like Serena and Sampras, Agassi,those are the facts. I mean look at Graf, she won a GS final in under 30 minutes. Who challenged Federer consistently before Nadal, Roddick-pfffttt. Sampras and Agassi were on their way out…look at the era now-Djokovic is still winning but he can’t beat Father Time-but look at the players now-Alvarez, Sinner, Medvedev, Rublev, and few others they would push Federer better than the players he faced.
Serena Williams
Steffi is above Serena!!!
Serena has more slams in singles, doubles and mixed than Graf, more Olympic gold medals, more tier 1 / wta 1000 equivalent titles, more longevity, yet some people pick Steffi over her because she was number one longer (thanks to Parche) and won a ton of tier 2-3 titles…
STEFFI GRAF should be number one, never Serena!
He got it right ... When you consider he is not going by how many majors won, he is going by overall play. That makes Serena the GOAT.
He is not alone, most tennis player (females) from the eras he's considering agree (with exception of Court).
One caveat, Serena Williams herself said, Steffi is the greatest. Of course that was earlier in Serena's career.
if he is going by overall play then he got it completely wrong, Serena is no 3 or 4.
@@nikosgr9290 overall play means; you are not a one shot deal. For example most all female players from that era say that Steffi's biggest weapon was her forehand. They also say she had good footwork. They also say, if you can stay away from her forehand, perhaps you had a chance.
Here is what they say about Serena, it makes no difference where you place that ball, as she has no weaknesses. She has a great forehand, backhand, return of serve (most of them say the best ever). She has great footwork, everything about tennis she has.
That is what is meant by overall play.
@@theire483 Oh ok thanks. i Know that as an "all around player". Then this ranking with these criteria make no sense to me at all...lol
Martina did it all 169 singles title 18 singles majors plus all of those major doubles titles with Pam Shriver and others plus mixed doubles titles CLEARLY the best
The doubles cannot be included - it's a team. And there are many players who are in the ranking of the WTA only in the 400s or 500s and could win major titles in doubles. Any questions?
Martinia won first of all 31 grand slam doubles titles and 177 career doubles titles overall and 169 career singles titles overall clearly she is the best female tennis pro ever what a record@@GottdieEhre
Serena is the best ever wish her return back to court
Stop watching video after the first nine women, the last is a Man
And you're jealous because she has bigger balls than you.
What man you know can give birth TWICE?? It’s sad that you repeatedly spout out such slanderous nonsense about the great Serena Williams.
@@jobuck879 haha, more a mix between monkey and too much testostoron or other drugs... 🙂
JUST ADMIT YOUR A RACIST TWART
Serena ❤
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