Jeffrey Dahmer's Bizarre Body Language Shows That Truth Isn't Always Right
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Jeffrey Dahmer, also known as the Milwaukee Cannibal or the Milwaukee Monster, was an American serial killer and offender who committed the murder and dismemberment of 17 men and boys between 1978 and 1991
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“I’m a psychopath, kidnapper, rapist, serial killer, and cannibal but I am NOT a racist.”
Of course I am paraphrasing but it’s interesting that he felt that it was important for him to emphasize that his targets were not motivated by race. I guess even serial killers have standards?
Damn
Crazy, right?!
I think carrying that label in prison was a risk that even Dahmer feared.
He's just saying he wasn't picky... He'll eat the dark meat😂
@@seaneric3517 lmao stop 😭💀
He seems frighteningly self-aware.
As they say in AA, "self awareness avails us nothing."
being very self aware is a sign of inteligence
I'm sometimes horrified by the thoughts I had, I've never had committed insidious acts based on thoughts but I sometimes worry that I at least have the capacity to murder; when I was 6 years old I had the demented urge and acted upon it against grasshoppers, I would behead the bugs compulsively and positioned the heads in a way where they practically where watching their beheaded bodies hop around aimlessly.
Is that a horrible sign of anything? I've only been diagnosed with autism by anyone officially in the psychiatric field.
@@shotakonkin2047 perhaps harm OCD paired with impulsivity. thats been my issue since i was very young.
@@shotakonkin2047 I'm sure you're fine, perfectly adjusted.
He's being authentic, almost like he's trying to pay restitution by admitting everything and being transparent because he had nothing to lose or gain at this point.
I remember reading Jeff was a member of or grew up with CoC (church of Christ).And he took responsibility bc of those beliefs.
I’m not sure if I am recollecting correctly, but I believe he also requested CoC baptism in prison bf he died.
just because u admit to evil
acts ur still evil and if they would have let him out he would have killed more ppl so saying he paid restitution is disrespectful
@@Wakeupsheeple607 You don't understand repentance. The only thing he could do was to be honest and forthcoming and apologize for restiution, he had nothing else but his life which he said he'd rather be electrocuted. All Jesus asks for is a broken and contrite heart for an acceptable sacrafice and He will grant forgiveness.
Now that everyone knows his secret he actually takes joy in talking to them about it because he’s hateful. He enjoys traumatizing them mentally. He’s highly intelligent and knows what he’s doing. He’s manipulative and cruel.
@@javayna2353 exactly and these ppl so slow they actually sympathizing with a serial killer/ cannibal.. what even happened to this world smdh🙄👀😪
He was diagnosed with borderline personality disorder, and as someone who also has it, I’ve recognized in him that his habit of keeping “mementos” or “killing them so they wouldn’t leave him” or “eating them so they would be a part of him” is the most extreme form of fear of abandonment. So while it seems “weird” or whatever that he wanted a memorial of the skeletons of his victims, I don’t think it is at all, for his diagnosis at least.
EDIT: Bruh, the amount of people that think I’m saying it’s okay to eat people just because you have mental illness is astounding. I don’t even think it’s okay to use mental illness as an excuse to be an asshole, but there is a reason for everything. Not an excuse, a *reason*.
Also schizotypal
Um, it's still fucking weird for his diagnosis 🙄
@@bloodrose7587 well that's why Rose mentioned the word "extreme"
Plenty of people have bpd that doesn't mean they're like him. There was a lot more than just bpd going on.
I am borderline too and even though my actions have been disturbing as well socially they were obviously never to this caliber. But that said I sadly do relate to some of his thought processes. Not WHAT he did please don’t mistake that it’s disgusting and disturbing.. but just the cycle the mind goes through with this condition. He’s just like you said, an extreme case. Ughhhh
Dahmer did wanna emphasize he wasn't racist, that was a huge angle at his trial.. his shade towards Bundy attempting to blame porn never ceases to not make me giggle.
Porn can help those who need it to get turned on, but it doesn't help diffuse the sexually deviant/deranged.
@@rachaelb. I haven't watched this yet, but I'm guessing Dahmer was referring to the interview Ted Bundy did with some Christian reporter or something where he practically said that porn turned him into a serial killer.
I haven't watched that interview with Bundy (or clips from it) in a long while so I don't know if this would still be my impression today, but my impression when I watched it was that Bundy was trolling his ass off.
@@Vindsus86 yeah, exactly, that last ditch effort from him was clearly what Dahmer was referencing in this interview.. it'd be an interesting one to see analyzed, though, tbh
@@rosiellagrace hehe. He's so obviously faking it though so I don't know how enlightening that would be. But maybe an analysis of the guy interviewing Bundy could be fun. See if it seemed like he was buying it or was just playing along to benefit himself and his agenda.
Edit: I googled who did the interview now and it was James Dobson of "Focus on the family". 😬
Edit no. 2: The behavior panel talked about this and especially one of the panelists was probably more upset with Dobson than Bundy.
Oddly enough, even Charles Manson called out Bundy too. He said Bundy's pr0n claim was absolute BS. I can't remember what program Manson was on when he said it, but I remember it very well.
Have you watched Dahmer's last interview? His father says that he blames himself for what Jeffrey became, and Jeffrey saying to him that it's nobody's fault but his own is one of the most fascinate things to watch.
Well he has a point. While his father may be an aspect of his personality and what he became, he ultimately had a choice to do what he did. And he did it because he wanted to.
That's a thing only The Holy Spirit can do. Or should I say to take us there because he's right. The day we will stand before Jesus Christ and be judge we will not holding anyone's hand and have to answer for what we have done while on Earth. As a ex atheist that brings me fear. But the good kind of fear.
"Give instruction to a wise man, and he will be yet wiser: teach a just man, and he will increase in learning.
The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding. " - Proverbs 9:9-10
Yeah, that bit is so interesting. This dude killed and cannibalized innocent men. Yet he has the empathy to understand why his father would blame himself, and to tell him he shouldn't. Bizarre.
That's the most interesting Dahmer interview IMO, I wish he tried to analyze that one.
@@Patrick.Basedman I think so too! I also got the vibe he was attracted to Stone Phillips, so there might be a bit more to analyze there lol
He is interesting because he admitted all his wrongs, didn't try to blame his parents, childhood neglect, he even apologized, even if it wasn't authentic, I don't know if any other serial killer even pretended to be sorry or took accountability. He wouldn't wear glasses in the courtroom because he didn't want to face the families of the Victims.
Right he was like the most “genuine” of the sick people you can listen to. When he said he didn’t do it out of anger etc it’s like he really means it. He was sick and he didn’t try and dance around it at least. Watching Ted Bundy was so disgusting because he tried so hard to the bitter end to put on a show
He doesn’t take pride, he takes responsibility. It just scares you.
He took pride when it suited him. Like when he rang the victims families and told them that he killed their son. And in prison when he responded to fan letters and also taunting the other inmates pretending his food was human flesh and joking about it. Personally I think he is more manipulative than people have been led to believe. Just because he opened up on the details of what he did, people need to realise how he got away with this for decades, by manipulating.
@@emms4867 good point
@@80sbaby90 he wasn’t even good at manipulating if you watched the series the police’s were just racist and didn’t do they job right I mean he wasn’t even good at hiding the body or the exudes he make saying one guy is his boyfriend
The most dangerous man is one who has nothing to lose
@@emms4867 That's not true. Say again, whose victims' relatives did he call? You are making stuff up. Allegedly, he only called Tony's relatives but not to laugh or take pride but to just tell them to stop looking for TOny as he was dead. And Jeffrey didn't even feel good about it, as Tony was the only one he might have had some feelings for. I agree that he has been manipulating people to hide his murders, but in the end he seemed more authentic than the rest of the serial killers.
Many were not "men", they were teenage boys. Really bugs me when people call underaged children men and women in murder/rape cases.
You know what really bothers me. And people say this for just about every serial killer. Wow I never would have guessed he looks so normal he dont look like a serial killer.
I believe 5 of the 17 were teenagers. Two were 14. I think two were 19 and the other 17.
@@jesseolson3142 if you look like a monster, you probably don’t walk through society unnoticed. Those people get caught.
Its weird that that bothers you. I guess we call them girls and boys. That makes it better? Does that make any difference at all? Awful is awful
@@ambiguous5085 it takes someone especially evil to hurt a child.
This is why Dahmer has always fascinated me. He's the only one that actually seems authentic when he's answering, he's not lying to try to get more views. He's being honest, I think. An honest genuine psychopath??_
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I know special in that way almost likable if you supress What he did.
Get more views😆
Edmon Kemper is the same way.
@CourtneyK I always found it fascinating when he was quoted expressing he felt like himself "being alive" was "a sin." He said he couldn't stop the thoughts. When he was murdered (the same way he murdered his first victim) he never made a sound. He never fought back or tried to get away.
The more he looked at his victims as “objects”, the more I believe he looked at himself that way. Or to not have to feel “human”. Or address any emotions he may have had. An easier way to handle any confusing feelings he had.
that’s clever, he never knew what love is since he was a child, so maybe that’s why he felt so disconnected and seen humans, even himself, as objects
He has always been the most interesting serial killer to me. He is honest, straightforward and there is a clear sadness to him. He didn’t want to be alone like he experienced as a kid. The way he processed through his emotions and urges throughout his life shows how he tried to refrain. He drank to drown out the thoughts and began stealing mannequins to lay next to fill some part the need he had. I would imagine that going to his parents who were clearly not physically available let alone emotionally available to ever remotely grasp what was going on his mind was ever an option for him. His mind was his prison because he knew that he couldn’t discuss his thoughts or urges with anyone. I genuinely feel bad for him and for what he ultimately became. Loneliness can and does change people and never for the good…
Many people have obsessive and very disturbing thoughts, it’s far from unusual. The best thing to do, is find a psychologist, preferably CBT, who will teach you the difference between thoughts, emotions and behaviors. Many are under the misconception, that thoughts are something we have to act on. It’s NOT!!
We see sadness in the interview. What we don’t see is how he manipulates. He tells you what he wants you to know. There were a lot of other factors at play here. Like he drugged his victims so they wouldn’t feel anything?! No! He drugged them so they wouldn’t try to get away. He said killing them was his least favorite thing to do, well strangulation is very personal and killers enjoy the fact that they are causing this type of death. He was not honest with himself about what he was actually doing to these men. All he saw it as was feeding his compulsion. He didn’t care about any of them!
@@Mingster6 I never thought of it that way 😕
@@Mingster6 There’s no way we can 100% know Dahmers thinking throughout the crimes
He was a pedophile he was a serial rapist how are you fascinated by a man raping another one other men and drugging them
The Fact that he killed a 14 year old Child and that the Police Handed him right back to Dahmer! That they got to keep their jobs and that its not talked about in many videos makes me angry.
they didn't get to keep their jobs. they were both fired
That is actually talked about quite a bit in pretty much every book and documentary on Jeffrey Dahmer. Even in the movie "Dahmer," that whole scene is played out.
@@ajgreenman112 one was reinstated, and promoted he retired in 2017 and still thinks he did the right thing. Disgusting!!!’
Who killed a child? If you mean Dahmer. How could they hand him back a dead child??
@@juanitasmith1729 There were actually 3 officers who were fired. The first 2 who arrived on the scene and spoke with the witnesses, and there was a 3rd who arrived later after the first 2 officers had made contact with Dahmer. He was the least involved, sort of say. He was dispatched away from the Dahmer call after the first 2 officers advised they had the situation under control and there would be no arrest. That 3rd officer is the one who was later reinstated because he really had not much to do with what happened. The first 2 officers never got their jobs back.
I don't think I would describe his childhood was "happy and average", there was a consistent pattern of abandonment, rejection and neglect. I'm not saying that his upbringing excuses his crimes, but I do find his case incredibly interesting and complex, and his interviews seem so 'honest' for lack of a better word. Dahmer is definitely one of the key influences for my interest in forensic psychology.
He was (mostly emotionally) neglected to the utmost point a child could have been without being fully abandoned... Until they did that when he turned 18, I believe. He was a hardcore alcoholic by 15. I know underage drinking was even more common back then but I don't understand why people claim he had a normal childhood in the least. I think one of the only serial killers I know of that did was BTK and I think we're mostly going off his word in that regard, so who knows.
Agreed. He had a pretty bad childhood honestly.
He was basically just left on his own to do whatever. His parents rarely engaged with him in anything. He often talks about his "fantasy land" or whatever and how he played alone in the forest.
Also his grandmother shamed him for being gay and using religion partly. So he felt shamed and I think decided to just completely give into his compulsion. He already felt like a "bad" "dirty" person . Also he seemed extremely lonely. He wanted to be in control because he didn't feel he had much control and power over his own life.
I wonder if he just didn't realize what his childhood was actually like. For instance, it wasn't until my thirties that I was finally informed that I was, in fact, emotionally abused in many ways, and that my household was classified as a quiet or even invisible type of abusive -- basically I was raised under the pressure of a HUGE secret, one that only I knew about one of my parents that the other didn't know, nobody knew i knew, and i actually still carry this secret today -- it's quite the kerfuffle 😂 but I had NO IDEA that it could be considered abuse or that it could affect me at all until I brought it up in therapy. 🤯 so I have always wondered if dahmer was unintentionally downplaying his upbringing. You know? 🤔 Humans are so weird.
Would it be crazy to say he actually seemed a little embarrassed talking about it? His ears were red which I think is usually linked to embarrassment (please correct me if i’m wrong) and those sighs and hesitation when he talks seems to be like a “I kind of don’t want to talk about it” sort of thing
I think he was so humiliated early throughout life, that he stopped giving a shit about shame, or what people think of him, while still understanding the negative association of his actions.
From all the serial killers I'm aware of, I think Dahmer is the one I'm fascinated with the most, because he's so honest.
Bundy, on the other hand, was a manipulator until his last breath.
Dahmer is said to have expressed remorse or regret. Do you think he was honest saying that?
@@tabby73 he seems honest to me. Can't read his mind though.
@@tabby73
Yes it looks like it.
Dahmer was self-aware, but I wouldn't call him honest. In fact, he was a very good liar, just not at the same level as Bundy. Bundy was extremely arrogant, narcissistic and delusional, and more than likely had all traits of the Dark Triad or Dark Tetrad. Dahmer was just a perverted sociopath with no understanding of basic morality.
Dahmer and Ed Kemper's interviews have been fascinating to me.
He may have been a horrible human, but he'll be damned if you misrepresent him as a racist
🖤😏👊
It's almost like if you kill a bunch of poc as a white guy, people will think it was racially motivated or something. Crazy
@@jessicahymow1410 , I'm thinking he was doing the half-truth thing that a lot of habitual liars do.
Did he hate POC more than white people? Maybe not. Maybe he's the kind of guy who would say, "I'm not racist, I hate everyone equally."
BUT that doesn't mean that he didn't target young, gay, poor POC because he knew that lots of other people are racist, homophobic, classist, etc. He's just not going to mention it.
Right!🤣
@@janeeyre1990 This! Also, let's not forget his obsessive fetishization of young men of color.
I do think he specified a lot of the racist stuff just to succinctly express why he did what he did. So people understood his motives
I feel sorry for him as well as his victims and their families. He seemed trapped in his mind and he knew it.
What you mean you feel sorry for him ??
@@Kiah_.0Empathy, if you know what that is.
It’s called human nature and every human has the right to choose and share their opinions on whoever it is weather it’s a regular human or an unnatural human!
Personally, I think the fact that Dahmer didn't scapegoat his crimes onto others(making himself out to be a victim) & owned/took responsibility for what he did shows a level of maturity on his part(rather than adding to his "sinister-ness") that is VERY uncommon when it comes to criminals. Many criminals lack empathy & remorse, & are often intellectually & emotionally underdeveloped.
It really is a shame he didn't live long enough to be studied more.
He didn't take any full responsibility he just told the officers where the bones were at he never really outly said oh I killed this person I did this he always said it as if somebody else did it or I don't remember why I took a pill and I woke up and he was bloody
@@jojosaylor8996 I've only ever heard him say he didn't remember killing one victim. The second murder if I remember correctly. The rest he admits to killing, he knew what he was doing and although he says he didn't enjoy it it had to be done to eliminate witnesses. I mean it's warped logic to the rest of us but to him it's what he had to do in order to continue with his sick fantasies that he says he didn't even try to stop in the end. He may disassociate from time to time but all in all he admitted to the murders, even the one he supposedly doesn't remember.
Again because usually murderers murder because of hate and anger. He wasn't angry at the people he murdered he just couldn't stop ever since his first murder. But he realized he was addicted to the insides of living things since he was a kid when he first opened up an animal. He didnt like it he was just addicted to the feeling and couldn't control just like he says. It was his compulsive disorder.
@@jojosaylor8996 he literally took the full blame and responsibility of all the murders, all 17.
@@yoda9256 Literally like what do they want him to cry scream and bang his head on the ground? He did what he did and he knew he was getting his cummupance so he admitted to his wrong doings.
he seems so calm and intelligent when he talks that you almost forget what he did
Whaaat nothing could make me forget.it just educated me on what to look out for ..soft spoken and calm ? That's manipulation ..you better wise up ! 😵
agreed
Naw, it only makes me look at other people who look like him, to be just like him!!
Ofc he had an 145IQ
I think thats what he’s hoping you feel
What I find fascinating is Logan appears less distressed watching the searing honesty of Jeffrey Dahmer than the peak cringe of 90 Day Fiance!
That's interesting. To be honest, I'd rather watch the Dahmer interview than spend 5 minutes watching Big Ed. Gah!! 🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢
That's cos Dahmer is way more honest than any of those dollies and lads.
I think it’s because Dahmer is real…90 day fiancé is cringey fakeness lol
well this guy is dead…. it’s a huge contributor
Jeffrey is easier to wrap your mind around. Pure evil isn't fake.
I do believe if dahmer had gotten the proper psychological help early enough he could have been helped.
I completely agree with you. Poor guy. This whole story could have been much more different.
I agree. And If his dad didn’t teach him how to dissect animals he might not have use that to cope.
@@Jugzthecrowndweirdo Yes, I am serious. I have read the book of his dad, I watched everything with him a long time ago. I know it is hard to believe if you are a simple creature, but some people can feel empathy for Jeffrey and the victims and the families as well. Dahmer is very different from the rest of the serial killers, like Ted Bundy or JWG.
I seriously believe he could have been saved if just one person intervened and listened to him carefully. And if he really accepted God just before he was killed, I hope God forgave him - altough I really don't think there is anything like that existing.
Cry a river about it.
True and 17 lives would have been saved
@@vivienm2037 "Accepting god" would probably messed up his mind even more. Devotion has a lot of limitations. And comes with a lot of harms. Such as "leaving things to god", victim-blaming, scapegoating and toxic shame.
The kind of shame that makes regular people spiral down and hurt themselves and others. It could be worse for antisocial sadists with cannibalistic and necrophiliac compulsions.
He needed expert psychiatric help, internment and medication. Most psychologists and psychiatrists are ready to help anyone, much less someone like him. And psychiatry wasn't advanced enough to be of any help. It's still kind of in diapers, currently.
Brains are very complex. As a matter of fact some psychiatrists could have unethically seen him as a guinea pig due to the gravity of his crimes. And become monsters themselves. Overall believing in god could have made his murders even more ritualistic and frequent.
Besides, what kind of god would create people so vile, sadistic and cruel. And let them get away with it. What kind of god could envision genocides, slavery, war crimes and crimes against humanity and other species, and let them play out. That god would be the most despicable monster of all. He'd be the condensed collection of every single horror in the history of the universe. No free will just a devilish creature torturing ants and narcissistically demanding worship.
I think also the heavy breathing is him being excited to tell and relive his story because in a way he still has control over his victims and the information he possess. Yet, he is emotionally intelligent enough to realize it is despicable to get excited about killing people so he tries to compose himself.
Good point
The attention he always craved from people after years of being rejected
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@@samkerr117 facts 😂 glad he got his caved in like a piñata
Nahhh your just over reaching with your psychoanalysis now it's getting annoying
Dahmers mom was emotionally neglectful and a narcissist and favored his brother. She was always verbally abusive to his dad and his dad was docile.his mom left and took his brother and it messed him up. I’m not excusing him, I’m just saying he didn’t have the best upbringing, a lot of people claim his home life was normal and it really wasn’t.
Alot of people don't have the best up bringing and some had alot worse than him. Psychopaths are born not made his upbringing isn't responsible for this.
Yes, she was extremely emotionally neglectful and narcissistic. I saw an interview with her and I couldn't stand her. I also watched an interview with his father that really fascinated me. His father admitted that he too used to have some of the same thoughts Jeffrey did when he was younger (teens). He just knew not to act upon them. I guess he had more of whatever it takes to not cross that line than Jeffrey did. He said he felt bad because he thought some of how Jeffrey turned out was his fault.
He said he was somewhat aware that Jeffrey was "different" and he started to resemble himself when he was a kid. He said he wished he had gotten him help. I think he thought Jeffrey would grow out of it as he did. His father's interview fascinated me because it was the first time I heard the parent of a serial killer admit they had the same tendencies. I often wonder how often that has happened. We normally don't get to hear much from the parents of serial killers when it comes to things like that.
Yes his mother was a narcissist in my opinion. She was all about herself and delusional, deny & deflect... typical narcissistic behaviour.
His father seemed genuine and has spent the rest of his life soul- searching and riddled with guilt for what he could have done to save his son. It's sad all round.
@@thealchemist5761 Yes it's true, lots of people have terrible upbringings and not all people with terrible upbringings end up like Dahmer, but they still end up pretty messed up in some other way because of it. They could be drug addicts, abusive, mentally ill, have trouble holding down jobs... etc.
9 times out of 10, people with horribly traumatic childhoods will turn out pretty messed up in some way or another. People like Dahmer are just the most extreme case of it.
@@MadMike1 9 out of 10 people who had horrible upbringing are not all messed up in some way. No one has a perfect childhood. It's been proven that psychopaths are born psychopaths. That's like saying the parents cause kids to be autistic or down syndrome when there is proof that their brains are completely different from normal humans.
I would LOVE to watch one about Edmund Kemper. People are still debating if he felt remorse for his murders or was just manipulation
Yes! I second this!
Yes!!! I find his interviews fascinating. Is he tell the truth or what we want to hear?
I agree...he's an interesting one
Damn I hope this gets more likes I would love to see that. I’ve always wondered that too& I’ve seen almost all of his interviews still don’t fully know
I think, like Dahmer, he is just a realist.
It almost looked like he wished he felt bad for what he did. He knew what he felt (or not felt) was wrong. He just couldn't.
He's like shaking his head about himself
I love that dig at Bundy when he says blaming it on society or pornography is just excuses lol
I like how you pointed out that he still wasn't sorry or had empathy for his victims despite knowing what he did was wrong. Too many ppl rush to assume he was capable of empathy. Two very different things. This is fascinating and I'm enjoying your content.
He was capable of empathy....he used different psychological methods to block empathy on purpose and by choice to keep indulging in sick fantasy. He didn't want to care so he's psychologically brainwashed himself into a state where he didn't. I think if given enough time and the right environment he could have eventually started to reach a place of remorse.
@@victoriawheeler5445i think the same
He did have empathy... Only for himself. He is sad for himself as his dark thoughts were interfering with his day to day life. Not once does he think about how he interfered with the lifes of the victimes and their families.
@@aa.4639 exactly!
@@aa.4639 that isn’t true. he’s literally quoted with stating that he is sorry and feels terrible for what he did. he has no reason to lie here and didn’t lie in any other interviews.
The interview where Dahmer was sitting next to his father was another fascinating peak into the mind of a killer. He also comes off as sincere and honest in that interview. As you watch and listen Dahmer starts to seem almost likeable. That's what makes him even more terrifying. The fact that he can be so "Average Joe" like, yet you know what he's capable of, makes you wonder how many just like him have you encountered and not known...😳
Fr best believe that
Or if you are 1 yourself and just don't know or could be if you were put in the right situation at the right time. What lives in us that we are unaware of? Or that some of just don't act on ?
Yea that one is interesting, not sure how the dad managed to hold his lunch, or go “What the fuck Jeff?!”
@@vickiewatson4107 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?
Jeremiah 17:9 KJV
@@vickiewatson4107 you have no reason to worry about that. psychopaths tend to present at a pretty young age. when jeff was a teenager he showed a cruelty towards animals, substance abuse, anti social personality, violent fantasies, lack of empathy, etc. and if you’re willing to question yourself, wondering if you’re a psychopath, you aren’t one. due to their narcissism they usually don’t like being referred to as such. jeffrey is a different case though, that’s why he’s so fascinating. he openly refers to himself as a psychopath because he knows he is one and almost takes a sense of pride in it. he thinks it makes him superior to others, which once again IS narcissism, it just ties in differently. i think what people don’t understand is that no two people are the same, especially in their pathology. some psychopaths will kill for the thrill of it, and some (dahmer) will kill for curiosities sake.
went off track a bit at the end but hopefully you got my point
Dismemberment has to do with his family “being dismembered”. Or his family being broken up. I used to draw dismembered body parts as a child(my parents divorced yet my father made my mother leave and I never saw her again-I was 12). Him keeping the body parts is the attachment he needed with his family. It definitely seems that he had a split mind or fractured mind.
This just blew my mind.
I thought he dismembered them coz it's easer to store and transport that way. can't have an entire friggin body as a souvenir.
@@opiuchi864 That too, but I’m talking about the psychological reason. When I was a kid, I used to draw pictures with heads chopped off and other body parts. I had a toxic family environment with my parents fighting violently, flipping over furniture, throwing beer bottles down the basement stairs and pulling hair and digging nails into flesh enough to make one bleed. My Mom also slammed the back door on my Dad so hard the glass on the window shattered and she got cut all over. There was blood trailing from the back door upstairs. When us kids got home from school needless to say, that was very traumatizing not knowing why or what happened. My father also eventually divorced my “stay at home” mother and kicked her to the street and he knew she had no money. I was 12 and never saw her again. Then she died in 1991. I was also abused by my stepmother. So yeah, I was angry.
I also think his father may have sexually molested him as a child. I believe Jeffrey Dahmer was a very intelligent man, but it went in the wrong direction. Emotions, family, sex, power, all can fuck someone up, no matter how intelligent they are. Your parents are your role models. And when that is messed up, unfortunately the kid gets messed up too. Sources do say he used to kill and dismember animals as a child. Why didn’t his father address that with him at that time? We will never know. He did have a curiosity of the “inner workings” of animals but why didn’t he just become a doctor like his father? Because(of course) there were emotional issues. Something happened to him as a child. Or he witnessed it. And you can tell in the new series(of which I couldn’t even get through the first episode), that with him(and most serial killers), it’s about power. But along with that comes sex usually. They are tied together most of the time. That indicates sexual abuse usually. He goes from being the dominant stalker to then at some points being that submissive child-like mindset. You can see that “cat and mouse” mind game he plays with his victims. That is the scary part. That is suggestive of psychopathy. But is that born with someone(as a chemical imbalance), or developed under certain conditions over time? Maybe a little of both? They are always thinking ahead, to be “up one” on somebody, strategizing, etc. Reminds me of “hyper-vigilance” too. Me and my two siblings have that last one. Mostly me and my brother as we were the oldest and knew more what was going on.
@@TinaJohnson59
Your analysis on him seems correct.
I'm sorry your fam was F'd... mine is too. I've always said nobody's family is perfect, but damn if people knew the secrets within mine they'd go crazy trying to make it make sense.
I hope you're well.
We can all say we will never know what he was truly thinking
Edmund Kemper is also veryinteresting. Especially how he says he tried to stop and he ended up turning himself in. I would be very interested to see what you can see from Kemper.
agreed 👍
Kemper was badly abused as a child, correct? By his mother?
I loved watching Kemper’s interviews. He was very charismatic and eloquently spoken which I always thought was in opposition to his size and appearance. Fascinating and tragic.
@@dancingfirefly7761 yes he was.
@@dancingfirefly7761 he also did not receive a lot of positive reinforcement. Very loveless life, except from his grandparents, if I recall correctly.
I find it fascinating when Dahmer says "and then they would be strangled" like he wasnt the one doing it. Like in some parts he compeltly takes responsability for his actions and then the other he completly disconnects himself from the crimes. He really blows my mind. Also his way of speakiing is really calming and that makes me calm and slightly uncomfortable with myself at the same time xD
I agree but I can’t blame him for wanting to disconnect from the things he done. It was probably the only way he could sleep at night.
@@Charlie-wt3sg oh yeah yeah 100%
yeah for sure. I'm sure it's almost kind of embarrassing telling people how you lived out your fantasy. Even if it were just some sordid sexual fantasy and not killing people I would probably use some distancing language here and there haha.
@@AnnClaire that's a really good point!
That could be because he genuinely doesn’t remember everything. For almost all of his crimes, he was highly intoxicated. He could’ve easily been in a blackout for some of the murders. He knew when he came to with a dead body that he’d done it, obviously, but he was disconnected from it.
I find it hard to believe it is only 17 people
I think he killed more than he admitted to killing. In the Netflix series it showed that a new guy named Dean Vaughn moved into his building and Glenda Cleveland noticed that she never saw him after he was seen with Dahmer. In real life he was actually found dead in his apartment and his murder is unsolved. Did Dahmer do it? Very possible.
His dry mouth could be the result of him being medicated. They had him on Prozac when he was in jail. That also caused the weight gain and a common side effect is a dry mouth, especially when talking a lot.
Why did they give him that?
@@chillout8320 to keep him placid and calm.
@@Persei1 but he's naturally calm
Just as a side note, Jeffrey's mother was SEVERELY depressed. While pregnant with Jeffrey, she took several different anti-depressant medications that could have really messed him up!
This! Watching “My Friend Dahmer” really makes you realize that him wanting to keep the men he killed so badly was because his parents (especially mom) were incredibly toxic and ended up abandoning him in the family home. That’s where he killed his first victim. A lot of people that spent time in the home with the family saw the dynamic of a very unhinged mother who may have schizophrenia and a father who was very disconnected. It’s recreated but one of his childhood “friends” is the one who gave the information so it’s fairly accurate. He was a class clown who became a drunk at a young age.
As Bailey Sarian would say: It doesn’t excuse it, but it explains it. At least he owns up to it all now and doesn’t even try to blame his f’ed up childhood.
@@dndrmffln2960 I love Bailey Sarian!
@@dndrmffln2960 sheese.. that will definitely do it 😐.
There are a lot of other factors, as well. He had surgery at like 4 or 5 for a hernia and I think his mother told him his penis had been cut off?? His brother was obviously the favorite. And since he started HEAVILY drinking at a young age, it likely damaged his brain, especially his frontal lobe which was still developing.
She also abused morphine heavily. While pregnant with him.
He really resented his crimes being characterised as racial. It's the only thing he disputed, and he was right. His victim make up was multi racial and more to do with what victims were available. All humans depersonalise people, in some fashion. Once you have it's hard to not see people humanised again.
I think you're right. I think he was offended to some degree that people see his choices as racially based, as that would be beneath him. As he said, he went for the most attractive available guy.l of the moment.
I agree. He lived in a mainly African American and Latino community. There's always been argument that his crimes weren't detected sooner because police failed to respond to those communities' concerns. They even returned a young Asian teen/adult to him who was found naked and disoriented in the street when Dahmer said, "oh, he's my boyfriend and he's just drunk." That should have been his undoing and the guy could have been saved, too had police done their jobs.
It’s kinda interesting though. I’m pretty sure most serial killers tend to stay within their own race fro some reason. The fact that he had a very broad range of racial makeup in his victimes would be a litte out of the norm.
He killed people he was attracted to, so they couldn't leave him. He wanted to have complete control over them so they couldn't leave.
So he killed people but his diversity & inclusivity policy was on point 👍🏻
I am very familiar with addiction, the tendencies and behavior with Dahmer is exactly the same. He had an addiction that gave him a high and he got away with it. The lying, sneaking around, unable to stop, and then the remorse after is typical addict behavior.
Same
I do think that his wanting to keep his victims with him stems from loneliness. During his childhood his father was often away for work and his mother was distant and even actually abandoned him, leaving the house with her youngest son and never sparing Jeffrey a thought. I think this added to the mental deviations he obviously had, and while he would have probably still committed those crimes even if his childhood were happy, what I think is his fear of abandonment made things worse
Agreed.
As a psychologist I believe he was pretty genuine during this. Also he wouldn't obviously say the things were dark or twisted etc. because he doesn't actually feel it himself. He clearly knows it is wrong morally and society receives it in that way. He is able to understand it conceptually, however he is not able to feel it. So the wording would make sense, it felt weird to him rather than dark. And as he is genuine throughout this interview, (we understand it also from the lack of emotions shown nonverbally as well - he is most probably having sociopathic tendencies if not having sociopathy which makes you lack of feeling the emotions tho you can still theoretically understand the concept of em) he wouldn't make extra effort to use the correct words as "dark, bad" because he already takes blame for it.
Another thing might be that he was unemotional because he was on meds, or that he had told his story hundreds of times, which made him numb. Dr Park Dietz, a psychiatrist who analyzed him during his trial said that he was actually pretty surprised of how effed up his crimes were, and wanted answers himself.
@@karinsomer6952 Definitely! Many many things affect the way he talks. I haven't even thought about the meds lol. Also I feel like he talks as if it is this innate thing as some sort of an instinct almost that he did not think about them much but just "wanted" to commit the acts. And when I think about people in general who have aggression or at least some fantasies somewhat outside of the norm I can relate it. It just is so fascinating to see how it is crossing the line so harsh and far.
@@ildemmiyim It makes me happy to read comments like yours, and many others on this video. To me watching anything crime-related is to learn, but many others seem to just want to get thrills and then boo and hiss and remove themselves as far from the criminals as possible.
Which is so disheartening to me. I think the path towards if not "no" then "less" killers and violent criminals is our ability to relate these extreme cases to other humans. Normal humans. When we make them "others", we basically say that it couldn't be helped because they're so bizarre and unique. When in reality, most people carry the seeds of horrendous acts - and what they go through in life affects whether they will blossom fully into something awful.
Recognising that, we might be more willing to act (whether that be to call social services, offer an ear, make a kind gesture, insist they seek counsel) with kindness and responsibility to those around us.
@@karinsomer6952 That's exactly what I wondered: was he taking any drugs during the interview and how much psychoanalysis and / or interviews had he had, so that he maybe was using words from other people he'd talked to. I wonder also if he had read books about crime and psychopathy in order to try to understand himself and what he was doing (even if he concluded that he didn't want to stop or was unable to stop). It seemed to me he had thought over all the things asked of him in the interview and was giving answers and explanations that he'd polished.
He purposely withheld the identities of victims police didn’t find. There are transcripts that show him saying this, which means he’s lying about being fully helpful. He only said he’d ID the victims the police found.
It seems like his perception of caring for or loving someone was EXTREMELY twisted and then also corrupted by addiction to killing.
He was never addicted to 'killing' per se.
i was just thinking wow he keeps their bones like an alter/memorial..
how is it different than when we grieve a loved one dying by visiting
their grave, saving bones like tribes did/make necklaces out
it/victorian times put their loved ones hair in jewelry and keep locks
of hair and even pictures of them deceased posed as a living one for a
memorializing purpose to keep... but the difference is thats love and
grief...dahmer has a sinister reason: like when u keep things from
vacations and touch it to remember your fun time and u keep these
souvenirs ...possessions! very interesting!
@@kimmyfreak200 Exactly
It’s like when we he was playing with dead animals when he was younger he loved those dead animals and I think that’s what distorted his perception on love
And lust
Thank you for this take, it was very useful to hear such an old interview be so useful. Absolutely chilling how easy he could talk about his life’s crimes like it’s a bedtime story
He seems to be actually hurt by the question about if it was racially motivated. I suppose even serial killers are allowed to have nice sides to their personality. And while men like Gacy and Bundy lied constantly, Dahmer has always seemed emotionally resigned but honest to me.
It's also interesting, that the most horrible things he did to his victims happened after their death.
Um, I think drilling into someone's skull and injecting acid into their brains while their still alive is a LOT more horrible than eating them after they've died.
@@BuzzyStreet Yea its whacked but he did not want them to feel pain and really tried to heavily drug them so it wouldn't hurt. He is still crazy as fuck and a monster but he actually was not a psychopath. Extremely severe Borderline Personality Disorder (diagnosed), delusions, some psychosis and dissociative symptoms, paranoia, and definitely some gay shame shit. But he was capable of more empathy and remorse than a psychopath. After caught in interviews he didn't play power games, was cooperative and transparent, honest. He felt he owed it to society and his parents. You just dont see that with psychopaths/sociopaths/narcissists. That's why he's so fascinating. Most serial killers are psychopaths or narcissist, and we tend to think of it as synonymous.
@@rickwrites2612 almost sounds like u feel bad for him, or like ur defending him. not saying that u r, but kinda seems like it
@@juniper1350 to me it just seems like trying to understand him.
@@rickwrites2612 I have BPD and I can tell you that Dahmer was not Borderline. He was a psychopath, all of his traits and tendencies are in line with Antisocial Personality Disorder. Borderline's are neurotic, he is not neurotic.
I went to grad school for counseling and my professor casually told the class he got to have a therapy session with Dahmer at the prison. My professor was a lot younger back then and was the exact type of guy Dahmer would go for. I honestly think my prof got to do it because the lead counselors thought Dahmer would be more open to him (but that's only speculation by me). We tried to get more information out of my prof, but he just said the session was very uncomfortable and Dahmer was awkward.
Your professor is a champ for doing it.
Maybe if your professor was the type Dahmer would go for, then he would probably have a reaction of arousal during the meeting, and perhaps that would make him more real and less controlled as he was in this interview. Your professor might have gotten a glimpse of whom Dahmer truly is when he is just a little vulnerable.
It’s incredibly fascinating that dahmer stated that he killed those victims bc he wanted to keep them them close and the alter was sort of a way to ‘honour’ them. It shows that in some morbid way he loved/ was very obsessed with them. It reminded me of a case study we discussed in a tute where a child chose to “symbolically” kill their therapist because they loved their therapist so much and became attached to them that they didn’t want their sessions to end. It’s super interesting how our psyche interprets “love” and the actions we would do for it. 🤔 (I’m not excusing dahmers actions or saying whether it’s right or wrong. Just an interesting observation from a psych/therapy student)
I once knew a 20-something chronic alcoholic who literally had a large picture window altar of empty bottles.
What's interesting to add is that Jeff said he wanted the death penalty also,
when he was getting beaten to death in prison, Scarver (The man who killed him)
said he didn't try to defend himself or fight back or run, he just sat there and let it happen.
I think Scarver actually said that Jeff started looking for the door when he realized what Scarver wants to do
But before he could go anywhere Scarver hit him
Seems like he has an extremely deep seated fear of being alone and or abandoned.
That's a signature trait of Borderline Personality Disorder, which experts diagnosed him with.
Right 🥺
Yep :(
To the point that it’s dangerous to try to heal that or protect it.
That’s sad
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I think one thing that might help you with studying psychopaths (Grannon life coach showed me this) they don’t have a fully formed the ego. They have the super ego and the Id, but not a fully formed self.
So if they aren’t a “self”, then they can’t comprehend somebody else as a “self”. Basically there isn’t a human there as we would think of a human. Lights are on but NOBODY is home.
Jeffrey was the only serial killer who was not a psychopath. He was tormented by his paraphilia and partly thanks to severe alcohol abuse it got way out of hand. His paraphilia could have been caused by a double hernia surgery he had on his genitals at age 4 which drastically changed his personality. He also had signs of being on the spectrum, a victim described him stimming (rocking back and forth and humming). He did not enjoy killing he just had a fetish and obsession with insides and bodies. He wanted to die for what he did, didn't try to appeal, and personally apologized to the families when they visited. He was extremely sick but not evil.
I agree. Everybody sees him as an evil monster but I only see a mentally ill man. I see no evil în him
jflsdknf: So he wasn't evil? What criterion do you think evil falls under or are you just after attention?
If he wasn’t killed he would have been a huge help to the FBI(mindhunters) that were putting together info on how to look for these types of people.
plus they shouldn't have destroyed the brain, who knows maybe in the future we could've find out more about how his brain work with the help of new tech
@@angeloangibeau5814 o yeah even with the tech we have today if it was preserved could have done scans and tests on it, comparing to others. Tho being able to ask him questions would have been eye opener, guy was aware he was sick but no one to talk about it with.
That interviewer, Nancy Glass, is amazing. I do not know how she kept her cool as he was saying such horrific things. I realize she's a professional and it's what she does. But everybody has their breaking point, and she did an amazing job.
As journalist some are simply thrilled to get a great story.....
decompartmentalization
@@amp4105 It was considered the professional way to interview back then as news was supposed to be unbiased, factual information. Also, she needs to use this approach if she wants to get more information from him. If she loses her cool and gets emotional it gives him the upper hand. On top of that, it would make the report more about her emotional reaction as opposed to letting viewers make their own decision. I'm glad to see reporters keeping it professional, as Nancy Glass is doing here.
If she's in media and entertainment she grew up being exposes to this and participate in it her entire life. Regular Joe's don't get high profile media positions
She knew she wasn’t in any danger from Dahmer and that this interview would cement her place in journalism history.
Note that when Dahmer was murdered he didn't fight back or run. I've always found the fact that he stood and accepted his fate very interesting,
Yea he definitely wanted to be killed either by electric chair or otherwise
Shortly after he was "saved" too. Maybe bc he asked for the death penalty from the beginning, but they wouldn't give it to him...... so God did. 😆 The man who killed him said God told him to do it.
@@phoenix27blaze23 The man who killed him was more mentally ill than Dhamer...
Apparently he didn't want to stay in jail but he knows going out into the public is not possible..death he wished death
@@phoenix27blaze23 you mean, shortly before?
I really love how you go back and SHOW what you mean by replaying the body language you are referring to. It helps us really understand. Thank you! You’re doing a great job!
Dahmer was my introduction into true crime 10 years ago. He fascinates me to this day. His calm demeanour, his honesty, his willingness to tell the stories of what happened, as awful and horrific as they were. I’m sure on some level the families appreciated that because at least they know. A lot of serial killers take what they did, where they put bodies ect, to the grave, leaving the families with NO ANWSERS. He’s not showboating about it. He doesn’t sugar coat anything. When he died they did study his brain and didn’t find anything out of the ordinary. Which is WILD. I enjoyed this as a fresh, professional take.
Dahmer isn’t a nice guy, he just acted how he acted to seem a certain way and that’s it.
@@blitzphantom9488 duh. But he also was honest in his interviews about what he did compared to most who just deny deny deny. I never said he’s a good person, he’s a devil.
@@Maddym365 no he wasn’t, he wasn’t honest at all. He only ever told you the stuff he wanted you to hear. Trust me on this one, there are plenty of things he wouldn’t talk about like raping his fellow soldiers in the army and more then likely murdering little Adam Walsh.
Dahmer is full of shit.
@@blitzphantom9488 You can say what you want about him, because he’s just so evil and dark. But he’s a fascinating person. Rip to the victims. The world can be cruel and scary..
they didnt study his brain because his father wouldnt allow it right ?
So sickening. He says “i just planned on drugging him, I wasn’t planning to hurt him at all.” BRO, THIS IS HURTING SOMEONE IN THE WORST MOST TRAUMATIZING WAY POSSIBLE even if he let them live! The fact he thinks that’s a painless totally normal act that won’t hurt the victim and it’s okay is so creepy
Its bone chilling. So chilling I'm flinch everytime he takes a deep breath.
It just proves how skewed his perception of the world is. He said he didn't want to hurt them but he didn't really understand the emotional/physical pain he inflicted.
He obviously just means he had no intentions of killing them. Not that his plans weren't bad enough, but that he intended to "have his way" but let them go home. Live out his desires and waving them off somehow became a trifle more problematic
He likely would have done se4xuak things too him too, and he did do those things before he killed them
@@teaspoonsofpeanutbutter6425 Right some folks play in too much was he is saying. Killing was not the objective for him it was means to an end in his view. He wanted to control the person. And as far as Dahmer he didnt hate.any victims
I know a girl whose grandma was Dahmer’s nurse in prison. He definitely made a lot of cannibal jokes to get under other prisoner’s skin. He drew attention to himself often
Yikes! That is interesting though
It sounds like he hadn't changed since he was in high school, where he did /said very awkward things for attention. Really sad, he got not attention at home.
Ew he was for sure one of those cringey people who pride themselves on “being a troll” 🤢🤢.... if he was a teenager today he’d for sure be on YT commenting offensive things just to piss everyone off 😂
@@eckey03 Exactly! I can see kids saying/doing stuff/acting out for attention, but it’s kind of sad to think of a grown man doing it. I had a friend like that in high school, who eventually grew out of it as we got older but I guess Dahmer never did
Looks like he trolled in the wrong community though. Jail is not the place to draw attention towards yourself
As a scholar in languages I noticed a couple of things: 1. "We'd go back to THE apartment " (not MY apartment), 2 " that's where THEY WOULD BE STRANGLED" , passive voice (rather than I WOULD STRANGLE THEM ). These are instances of distancing language... and finally about homosexuality " it caused a lot of problems (pause) FOR ME" not thinking about the impact of those problems acme conflicts on other people
Most killers don’t sit and talk so openly and honestly about their compulsions and why-he did. That’s the one thing he did to help. Maybe being so honest and having those interviews gave him the attention he was so desperately seeking. It’s all so twisted 😨
one weird aspect is that many women have been sending jeffrey love letters when he was actually gay (publicly). adoring serial killers is bad enough so it really did confuse me how many women were falling in love with this psychopath when he wasn't even interested in females. HUH??
I agree, but someone doesn't have to be straight for you to be attracted to them. So it seems pretty on par with what happened with other serial killers
It's a fetish. Hybristophilia
Who falls for a serial killer anyway?
@@lisalegato0109 people with the fetish, they fetishize criminals and the danger surrounding them because "maybe they could be the one to change them". So they fangirl and send letters to them in prison. Even getting married and having kids with them while they're in prison. Pretty sure Bundy had a prison baby.
@@ohemdoublegee not a serial killer (well, idk he killed 4 people technically?) but Chris Watts gets sooo much fanmail. 🤢. Didnt manson also marry someone who was young whilst he was old and in prison?
Hes like: i had no intention of hurting him, just drugging him and assaulting him UHHH
Well, technically, he didn't hurt his victims as they were all sedated.
@@karinsomer6952 that is not necessarily true, just because your “sedated” does not mean your not painful. They teach you that in the medical field with planes of anesthesia.
@@karinsomer6952 he preformed at home lobotomy’s, not all of them happened when his victims were 100% sedated.
Seriously!!! I just commented the same thing actually, didn’t see you already said it!
he may be honest about some of his murder details...but he still downplays alot of it... something psychopaths are known for and its not necessarily cuz they care what u think its about control...dahmer abhorred himself thats for sure
I wonder if anyone ever wondered if he was SA'd while under anesthesia and he somehow remembered without fully remembering (if that makes sense) and he was trying to recreate that to somehow understand it... why would they think the surgery was the turning point for him, it just makes no sense. Idk this just randomly crossed my mind. I wish we had more time to study Dahamer, honestly.
'Do you dislike it?'
'Yes. It's caused a lot of problems...for me.'
That shows no guilt at all on behalf of the victims or their families, only resentment he was caught. He was such a crazy guy. I wish he was still alive though, locked-up of course but still alive. Would be interesting to see if his story or feelings towards his crimes would have changed over the years as he got older.
Yeh murdering him wasn’t really the answer but my guess is he creeped people out in prison and if it wasn’t one guy it would’ve been another.
You have poor text interpretation skills. His sexual preference only caused problems for him, wheres his compulsive killing caused problems for others. Obviously. His sexuality in itself wouldnt be a problem for anybody, if it werent for the other addictions. He was fully aware of the impact of his actions onto OTHERS. But he was talking about his sexuality here. And primarily it was a problem for him and no one else, since he grew up in an environment where he would be judged in case he came out.
YES, YES, YES, YES! Been waiting for this video to be "Observed" one day! This interview is classic... and terrifying. I literally can't wait!! 😭🥺😁
Ikr... I'm enjoying this with some fava beans and a nice Chianti...😂
@@seaneric3517 That's a big yikes, but also fitting! 🤣🤣 That movie (Silence of the Lambs) does reference real serial killers, including Ed Geen and Ted Bundy, but not sure about Jeffrey Dahms. It's just fascinating that any human can do such things to other humans...
I'm glad I'm not the only one who is excited about this serial killer series! Dahmer, btk, and Holmes are a few serial killers that have been the most interesting to me. The night stalker and gacey are the most terrifying to me. 😳😳😳
True. Dahmer is different in many ways. He doesn't brag. He describes and analyses what he has done. Without the brain damage, he could have been a scientist.
He’s a factor 1 vs factor 2 thats why.
I agree and I don't understand why he didn't just get into a job where he had easier access to dead bodies like being a mortician. I mean I understand that a cold dead corpse could really never provide what he had been deprived of all his life or the basic human need for acceptance and human connection and safety but still he managed to keep himself from killing anyone for 10 years so with our sophisticated technology if he had been alive still he would definitely be one of those people that would want a sex bot
@@victoriawheeler5445 I mean, I think he tried this - he worked in a medical field but before he could figure out exactly what he was "into," he was fired and probably banned from working in any field like that again, then he heavily drank and ended up with a prison record... so I mean... a long shot to be a mortician after all of that
@@victoriawheeler5445 There was another video I saw where the interviewer said he talked to his mother and brother. According to him, his mother told him in the 10 year span between murder 1 and 2, he would wait for a funeral and dig up a fresh corpse and bury it again after he was done.
If this were true she knew, and probably the whole family knew. I hate when they say he was from a "normal" family and upbringing.
@@victoriawheeler5445 because he was a crazy person with insane compulsions and no ability to hamper them. It’s interesting to see people apply “regular” standards to Dahmer. He really was phenomenal at making people believe he was no different than anyone else.
Think about it this way. If he ever got a job as a mortician, he would just go nuts and probably try to eat body parts, go too far in terms of dissection, etc.
Being a mortician requires precision and expertise. Dahmer was an unbridled butcher.
Just now coming across this. My dad actually lived down the street from Dahmer’s last apartment before I was born. I live about 2 1/2 hours maybe 3 hours from it. Always been fascinated with him. Btw your intro is literally amazing. I’ve been watching your videos for a few months but I can never get over how awesome your intro is! It’s so perfect
I've always been fascinated by Jeff since the age of 14, my parents weren't happy about the books I was reading but I was trying to understand why he did the awful things he did... And I feel such sadness for Jeff he saw his parents comes to blows many times, he had hardly any friends and he felt "weird" from the age of six... It really made me sad that this little boy went through all of that and I do not think what he did was right, but I do think how he was raised etc it did effect how acted... I like to think that if he had have gotten care as a teenager with a psychiatrist as an in patient it would have helped him with alot of things, the whole story is sad for everyone involved and I wish it never happened.
You know man, I'm 15 and I feel exactly the same way. And I do agree that his actions are influenced but we always need to remember you have a choice and that choice to either do those horrible things or not were his and he chose the wrong route. I also feel sad for him though. You have proper empathy like me man, and that's a good trait
I only feel sadness for the victims not him!
When I was a teen I was into serial killers, I mean their stories and background. I would be fascinated with their psychology and even looking for things I'd have in common with them (being weird, a loner, depressed whatever). But really what it does is looking for explanations when they're not necessary anymore. Dahmer already stated that no once else is to blame. He was sick to the bone and I don't think that there could have been much to save him. Some are born with serious brain damages, or areas in the brain that are not connecting and it results in the most horrible behavior. As you grow older you'll feel more for the victims. The ones who also had their struggles and their demons but they ended up on the wrong side of the knife.
@@moonlightj0y no one is born evil
@@moonlightj0y look at it this way...what happened to him inside manifested itself on the outside. If you can't feel compassion for this person, you can't believe this type of tragedy can prevent it. You only believe in evil. It's not productive
Question: When his breathing increases and the lip compression/eye closing occurs could that be arousal or anticipation rather than anxiety or a grimace?
Yes, it most definitely could. Usually, when people are closing their eyes while talking, they are either trying to block something out or are envisioning what they are talking about. I think it is the latter for Dahmer. He is probably reliving a certain crime in his head while explaining his actions and thoughts during the murders.
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ooooh good point
EXACTLY what I was thinking. He didn’t look nervous, he looked like he was remembering his favorite meal and couldn’t wait to taste them again ☠️
Yes. I have the book by Patrick Kennedy called grilling Dahmer and he said while Jeffrey was confessing all of his crimes to him he was usually erect and sometimes even masturbated while doing so and was grinning and chuckling while talking about some of them.
22:18 "That's when the cannibalism started"
So THAT'S where the quotation from the intro to TLPOTL comes from!
Lol they talk about it in the Dahmer episodes. They are so good if you haven’t listened already
What is Tlp whatsit?
@@tameramorrison8966 Last Podcast on the Left.
Isnt synchronicity great.
That’s what I was thinking
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My issue with the Netflix shows on Dahmer revolves around a troubling theme. They often portray him as an atypical serial killer, downplaying his sadistic nature and highlighting his longing for companionship.
The show subtly attribute his murderous tendencies to his past abandonment issues, excusing his actions to some extent. This portrayal is highly problematic and sets a dangerous precedent.
While antihero protagonists have become prevalent in television, dramatizing a real-life serial killer like Dahmer is a different matter. It's like making a romantic comedy about Hitler, blurring the line between sympathetic humanization and exploitative glorification.
Despite any personal grievances or psychological explanations, Dahmer was a sociopathic murderer who brutally took the lives of 17 innocent men. Loneliness and childhood trauma cannot justify or mitigate such heinous acts.
The apologetic tone of these shows, framing Dahmer as a misunderstood individual in need of treatment, undermines the gravity of his crimes. He was fully aware of his actions, driven by an inner urge to control and dehumanize others.
After being found legally sane, there should be no room for excuses or sympathy for a man with blood on his hands and a freezer full of mutilated remains.
Yet, due to the over-objectivity of these Netflix releases, Dahmer sympathizers continue to emerge even three decades later.
Finally an intelligent comment 👍
@@Swisslady49 Thank you!
What scares me the most is that Criminals are highly intelligent. Look at how calm he is during this interview. Imagine meeting him in person without knowing about his background. You won't even realize that he's as sick monster when he talks and acts like a gentleman !
I can see why he could easily take his victims back to his apartment.
Imagine meeting him in a bar 😵💫
He wanted it to be clear he wasn't racist due to it being implied he targeted black males. He definitely had a fetish or preference for black men whether he knew it or not. Black prisoners said he stared at them and made strange comments. He did everything he could to get reactions out of them threatening to bite, being inappropriate in the showers, and making body parts out of food and eating suggestively. He even drew some of the black prisoners and was eventually murdered by one because of his behaviors.
nonsense.
@@CorporateComedy Can you elaborate? Because Christoper Scarver was clear on why he killed Dahmer. So your comment of nonsense is strange. Also I highly doubt guards and prisoners came together to make one cohesive story to slander Dahmer and his behavior was also very publicized.
@@CorporateComedy If your comment is in regard to him having a preference or fetish. It's clear he did. He said himself he would seek out the most beautiful or attractive men. Most of his victims were black meaning he fond them to be the most attractive.
@@brefunchess7551 He was living in a predominantly black neighborhood. If you’re looking for “the best looking guy” you can find, as Dahmer stated, and you’re preying on people in a mostly African-American neighborhood, chances are you’re going to accumulate black victims, whether you’re racist or not.
@@gkniffen That's logical. It was somewhat about proximity as well.
I would be interested in some analysis of Jeffrey's father. I believe his father always knew more about Jeffrey and what he was up to than he makes out and i feel a lot of his 'it's all my fault' talk is more because he wants people to alleviate his guilt so he doesn't have to be responsible in any way. I'm not saying he definitely knew Jeffrey was a serial killer but I believe he had more insight than he lets on.
Okay but same because after watching the documentary on Netflix, I felt like no parent will go find dead animals with their child and TEACH them how to well Yk. Especially since Jeff was like 10years old. Also the fact that his dad said he had those tendencies himself when he was younger showed me that he most likely knew what was going on. Maybe not fully but I feel like most of it was him being in denial and too scared to face the fact that his son actually went through with the urges that his father suppressed
@@kermitwormit8856 Exactly ! Jeffery got it from his father. His father suppressed those thoughts and feelings so as his progeny he couldn't able to control him. I think his father was also Homosexual but suppressed his sexuality out of Shame and fear.
I think Lionel was far more controlling than he made out and Jeff went along passively with his instructions even in prison with the baptism. His father desperately trying to save face. Who knows what horror he went through in his childhood really? Tragic and his story is what has sparked my interest in psychology and he's a puzzle for sure no matter how many books I read. I feel conflicted and curious but now am very interested in body language and as I said psychology of someone who is this lonely. Tragic.
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I have always felt that Dahmer couldn't emotionally regret what he did but he regretted the fact that he was the way he was. He didn't like that he had those compulsions but at some point or another he gave up on trying to restrict them. In my unprofessional opinion he was deeply depressed and decided on finally going through with all his urges because he didn't care what happen to him as a consequence. He didn't seem to be scared or concerned with going to prison or the possibility of dying.
I also feel to some extent he was probably medicated on these interviews which contributes to him seeming to subdued and disconnected.
A lot of things about him are very interesting though his behavior in highschool and while in the military and even his "conversion" to Christianity while in prison. I think he did try at least in certain times in his life to "fit in" and be a decent human being. I think for whatever reason though he was never able to be. Whether because of his surgery, or psychopathy. What's more interesting is his father states he had always had a similar disconnect in life and could imagine being in his son's situation if his life hadn't turned out the way it did hinting at the fact that there could be a biological factor.
I made it very similar comment, but you put it much better…. Like I was saying he was in capable of empathy but he didn’t like the fact that he was in capable of it but he still couldn’t have it or show it, so it’s never going to come across that way even if he wishes he could be empathetic
According to the man who killed him, Dahmer was taunting him in prison.
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What? This makes no sense: "I also feel to some extent he was probably medicated on these interviews which contributes to him seeming to subdued and disconnected. " - This is the way he always spoke.
Where are you saying to fit in as a Christian by getting baptized as a Christian? In prison- where most people don't believe in God?
What psychopathy are you even talking about? He was not a psychopath!
You wrote so many wrong things there, why don't you educate yourself more before writing such??
I've been binge-watching Mads Mikkelsen's Hannibal on Hulu lately. It's weird, going from watching a fictional stone-faced cannibal killer to watching an interview of an ACTUAL stone-faced cannibal killer...
I wonder if Mads studied stuff like this interview and other Dahmer clips.
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I remember watching the story break on the news when I was a kid, the police removing the barrels from his apartment! So crazy!!
I always found his interviews so interesting because he doesn’t seem super narcissistic or like a liar like the rest do. He knows something is wrong with him, and I don’t think he could stop himself. Thank god he was locked up and killed
Yeah, let's thank god, shall we? 🙄
Even though he has committed probably the worst crimes, he is one of the most tolerable characters among serial killers. Not arrogant, boastful and deceitful like Bundy, not intentionally provocative like Ramirez, not trying to justify his actions with his world view like Manson... I quite like him taking responsibility for what he did and not trying to win people over.
Ironically, he won you over a bit 🤷🏻♂️
Is this man serious? Jeff doesn't even know why he did this. He was asking doctors why and they had no answer for him. I do believe Jeff felt remores
I don’t know if I’m crazy, but I’m not sure how someone could watch this video and not see the shame that dahmer displays. Am I really the only one that sees the deep regret he’s showing throughout the interview?
Not crazy at all. I agree 100%
when he looks down, does that lip move, and closes eyes it shows shame
"regret"
He made jokes in prison about the murders he committed
*jokes*
*murders*
HE WAS NEVER REGRETFUL
@@Tabth3778 that is fucked up no doubt, but that doesn’t mean he wasn’t regretful. People have different ways of coping with shit.
my thoughts on the "it was not" statement. I feel that he had an obsessive desire to be completely dominant. Completely in control. I also feel that he was being sincere when he said that when he got arrested he felt no need to hide anything and to completely confess everything. It is almost the only sort of control and dominance he had left. I believe that his emphatic tone when saying that it wasn't racially motivated was that it really wasn't. He is annoyed that people are trying to control or dominate his story in some way and because it wasn't true, it made him angry. I don't think he necessarily cared whether people viewed him as a racist or not. I think it was about the control and dominance over the story.
And also, it was clear he was motivated by dominance over others, since that was how he could satisfy himself sexually and generally. Rather than hate, it seems to be more like physical preferences
It was racially motivated but it was the opposite of racism actually, right he like dudes with dark complexions, I know that sounds matter-of-fact and heartless for me to say I’m just saying watch the interview… He seemed offended at the fact that people wouldn’t think that he could think of black person was beautiful, I think his mind had a lot of compartments that were separated from one another, like he could feel completely unethical about cannibalism and killing but still feel a sense of ethics about racism… I think the human mind is complex enough to be able to do that
@@jeremysiron9622 Exactly. That is what I got too.
@TurnedLeftAtTheRockyMountains He was obsessed with bone structure too, look up his last victim that dudes face is carved out of granite. Windomer was picking him up at the bar It was one of the things he mentioned to Tracy Edwards, was his bone structure.
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It seems that he was capable of acknowledging his guilt without needing the emotional response. Fascinating. He never deflected or excused, he just owned his guilt.
Because it was the only thing he could own up to! He was used to being a mistake
He's been talking with many doctors and psychologists since 1991 and by this point, he's just repeating himself so the initial emotion is perhaps lost? He's a very tragic, lost and very broken man and everything I've read about him points to serious disturbances. I have Borderline Personality Disorder and identify with the obsession and abandonment issues and being very matter of fact in communication.
You don't have to be a scientist to se that: Dahmer was depressed, indifferent, lack of compassion, ocd, dissociated from reality, severe compulsions towards killing and doing whatever he did. He is aware of what is happening but it was his reality. We don't have to understand it it was what it was. He can't feel pitty for the victims cause he is incapable of it. Alot of depressed epople can't fell empathy because of the sickness itself or from social traumas. But most don't have killing tendencies. It was just a mix of all the right ingredients to make a serial killer.
Who else wants to see him cover Edmund Kemper?
I'm shocked by his honesty, the first time I've actually watched any interview with him. There's definitely no regret or disgust, he's totally at peace with his actions. I find it fascinating but terrifying all at once that someone can be so disconnected.
yea he knew what he was doing was wrong so when he got busted he tried to comply with the police as much as he could. he explained in great detail how he murdered each victim. It’s so sad. How do you know some thing is morally wrong but still have urges that are strong enough to overpower ur sense of morality. he even said he feels for the victims and their families and that he never hated anyone. I think he’s like the only serial killer who never hated anyone 😭
Psychopaths don’t experience feelings like normal people. They don’t feel regret, guilt etc. that’s how they’re able to do these things
@@RanaTalrayyes he’s not a psychopath. he literally coped with his actions through his heavy drinking. he felt both regret and remorse.
@@yoda9256 he knew it was wrong because everyone told him but he didn’t feel guilt and remorse. If you actually read more into his case he was killed by his cell mate because he would fashion severed limbs out of prison food and drizzle them with packets of ketchup as blood. That man didn’t feel any sort of guilt otherwise he wouldn’t be as calm as he is in this interview
@@RanaTalrayyes that story of him doing that to his food is literally from the man who killed him. no one else says or claims that he did that. that’s literally just a bogus story to probably give a reason as to why he did it, not to mention the guy was a schizophrenic…
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He has the hint of a glint of satisfation in his eye whenever he speaks of his actions. When speaking of his process, the drugging, the murdering, the souvenirs, saying the word victim... he may not have had an overly expressive reaction but the corners of his eyes tell all! No remorse, whatsoever!!
He was very pleased
with himself!😡
Dahmer seems somewhat pretentious in this interview. The way he describes his crimes is on the poetic side, which comes off as attention seeking to me. The interpreter is saying otherwise, and I sincerely appreciate him offering his expertise, I just get a different vibe
I think he definitely liked the attention very much but the difference with other serial killers is that he doesn't do anything over the top during the interview to get that attention. This is very different from what Bundy or Chikatilo behaved like during their trials, for example, that showed extremely histronic behaviours. Dahmer is much more subdued, at least in this interview, maybe because of the kind of attention he was searching for. Also I have to wonder if he recuested to be interviewed by woman. Had the interviewer been a man, I don't think he would have been able to remain as low key as he does here.
Agreed dahmer givin off that english lit student who's emo enough to consider himself quirky
This. After watching Bailey Sarians video about him, it makes him seem like he was just fumbling along not knowing what the heck he was doing. Whereas in this interview, he's making it seem like he had a plan and knew what he was doing all along. Like he thinks he's smarter than he actually is.
Yes. Remember he did dumb shit in school for attention like mocking and imitating people with special needs.
I've always thought that it's almost like Dahmer speaks like he's breaking down the cliff-notes of his therapists method for you. Like he can speak about them without an emotional connection because he knows it's real, but he doesn't feel it because of his mental illness. That's why there's small emotional connections to his doings, because that's what he knows for sure. The explanations for why didn't matter to him then, and they don't truly make him feel anything now. But that begs the true debate of can somebody like him be rehabilitated if they genuinely will never be able to truly connect to their treatments even in the most -making-them-the-victim way. Because they were NEVER the victim (In their head)
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@@montanaraecunningham4184 uh- I'm sorry?
I don't think those people can ever be rehabilitated, even if they feel some remorse. Studies show that those people are likely to kill again.
@@montanaraecunningham4184 exactly my thoughts while reading the text above
Such an interesting person to analyse for anyone intrigued in psychology or criminology. As 'strange' as it may be for some to find it fascinating and trying to "understand a serial killers mind", its so important to either prevent or solve other cases...
We can’t simply forget the uncomfortable parts of history, or we will be doomed to repeat them. It can be uncomfortable, but it’s important to remember these horrible things and understand why they happened to hopefully prevent it from happening again.
Revisiting this video after watching the new Netflix series
What's also interesting verbally is that he speaks of "satisfaction", "pleasure" or "gratification", never of joy or happiness or any emotion that goes beyond sexual pleasure or sexual deprivation. I don't think he ever knew joy or sorrow or anything more than those primal, basic feelings. Which is sad, even considering he was a serial killer.
True. I listen to his boredom, his monotone, and lack of inflection verbally and physically and I chalk it up to the fact that he's now unable to have that satisfaction so he's back to just having nothing again. Neither sad nor appeased. Then it makes you wonder how the hell is this the ONLY thing that can bring someone pleasure in life and how did that happen
I am glad you have reviewed Jeffrey Dahmer. You might find it interesting to review the interview with Jeffrey and his father. You will notice a similarity in that quiet way of speaking. There is something about him that sets him apart from other serial killers. He really wanted to understand why he was how he was. HIs father Lionel and Lionel's second wife stood by him. Lionel had his take on how Jeffrey may have developed his compulsions. Those interviews are fascinating.
Yes! I believe that's the stone Phillips interview. Very good
I didnt know this existed. This would be a fascinating video!
The very first true crime book I ever read as a kid in the 90s was about Dahmer. I've been fascinated by human behavior ever since.
Great video!
It’s very interesting to realise that a prolific and violent, canibalistic serial killer was absolutely not a sadist. The two don’t seem to match up, there is such a void in his spectrum of emotions which lead to this, bizarre disconnect between his actions and impulses from his feelings.
So excited to see how Evan Peters portrays him in the movie/show coming up
same, i love evan!
he’s so good at these darker disturbing roles but i never actually acknowledged how that can mentally mess with someone… not until he came and opened up about it but im glad he is doing ok, if not better!!✨
Yeah just not excited for weird Tumblr girls to romanticize it :(
@@peramenehera7054 I mean they’ve been doing that for years and they’ve been doing that since before Tumblr even
Ah this makes me so conflicted because I’m heavily attracted to Evan peters 😭
same here. I think Evan will do really well portraying him.