You may have messed the process at some point, I have the drive and still works no problem, I actually have reformated and still works the same, as a note, the card must be in MBR partition table and not GPT
Same here. I've been using a 1Gb Western Digital CHSN30 with the adapter for about 2 weeks now with absolutely no issues. My Xbox Series S is completely updated. So I wouldn't go and judge it has been disabled by Microsoft so quickly. However, there's a lot of steps to get wrong and that's what might have happened to Ben.
Disappointed that the video was a bait and switch I got so excited that someone finally made it possible to use another option instead of having to be strong armed into only using Seagate's option! 😥
He's wrong about third party adapter being firmware blocked by MS. I have one that is working perfectly fine. There are lost of steps in the processing so he could have gotten one of them wrong or maybe got a faulty SSD. But trust me, it still works.
The reason it did not work for him is because he used the *PC* SN530 ssd. You can see version he bought when he zooms in. This version is NOT compatible! It MUST be the *CH* SN530 ssd.
It's not the expansion card that's being blocked, it's the drive itself. The expansion card serves only as an adapter and it would work if you could harvest a dead internal ssd of an S/X machine. That was patched a while back. The adapters exist for a long time now and can be had for cheap.
Thanks for reviewing this, sucks that it doesn't work reliably. Fingers crossed the accessory people eventually come out with a better decoy and open full M.2 compatibility. The expansion card limitations are the worst part of Series X.
What sucks is the fact that they're still adding 500gb drives into consoles. The Series X could've easily had an 3-4 TB ssd and the Series S could've had a 1tb ssd. I love my Series S but it still feels very anti consumer being forced to fork out an additional $200 if I want more memory.
@@XL3BIGDrizzy He used the *PC* SN530 ssd. You can see version he bought when he zooms in. This version is NOT compatible! It MUST be the *CH* SN530 ssd.
1:25 maybe the issues your having is that your not using the recommended NVMe ssd for full compatibility. It’s supposed to be the CH version. Not the PC
This is a good video however there's absolutely no reliable source for MS blocking this third party adapters via firmware. I think Ben just got one step of the process wrong or a just a faulty SSD. However, the adapter actually works. I've been using an adapter myself with no error messages or any other issue at all for about a month. There are some very detailed tutorials in other languages (I've seen some in Spanish and Portuguese) about how to make the adapter work.
Canon added a chip into their camera batteries and once a bunch of people started buying the cheap knock-offs, Canon used a firmware update disabled all those batteries. so MS could possible do the same. MS is trying to do the Apple memory price gouging. bastards!
@@ohsnap3457 you just need to buy the correct SSD, the CH SN530. There is a "PC" version that does not work and no surprise that's what he used in this video. I am assuming that the "CH" version is readily available for a good price in China, whereas it's cost prohibitive to export outside of China.
I bought a 1tb Samsung T7 external SSD for around $130 for my Series S. Granted I can't play games Series X/S optimized games off of it but it's great for storage. Also transfers very quickly back and forth to the internal drive (something like 2.5gb per second)
What SSD did you use? There is a specific model number that you need to use and there are similar WD cards that are not compatible. Just looked at the video, you got the wrong ssd. It's supposed to be the CH SN530, you got the PC SN530. And just an FYI to those enterprising enough to try this, the correct SSD costs just as much as the official Seagate drive, so this is pointless.
Yep it's the CH what you want.. and unfortunately like you said it's more expensive now, now that the sellers realized it can be used for Xbox and steam console. It was $120-150 last year on eBay, just be sold as storage for surfaces pros. Should've bought it when I had the chance 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
@@ominousview They do realize if they make them just as much as the xbox one people aren’t going to buy it anymore right? There just gonna buy the flagship one for the same price 🤦♂️
well atleast you know what you are talking about , i was hoping for alternative and its clear that gaming sucks now . even if you buy a decent monitor you still need to research what panel theyre using and what is inside the monitor for it to work , i mean i have bout a few monitors the last few months for my series s , but none of them could beat my old 11 year old tv , the monitors stutter they ghost its a nightmare compared to my tv , the only thing these modern monitor do right is colour but as soon as your character moves say good bye to quality , so honestly idk what we buy anymore
@@DisruptiveUnicorn98k That’s not really a matter of gaming sucking, if anything it’s better it means that you get more options, the technology has gotten more advanced and the market has expanded so you can get a monitor that has what you want specifically, obviously it’s more work but anything thats as important as that should have a little effort put into it, unless you just don’t have to worry about money and can frequently buy a monitor which is nice but not everyone can do that, once they buy one there stuck with it for at least a couple years
@@thepsychicflame I have an 11 year old tv that I bought with or after my Xbox 360 it's 1080p at 60 which isn't much , but then I went and bought a monitor that is supposed to be 165 hz 1440p and HDR and whatever all the bells and whistles,my only issue is , is the laggy images and the rendering that isn't any better than my old tv , and it's really beginning to make me question, because 11 years ago I paid 8000 for my tv my new monitor that is supposed to be cheaper better and all that , only has better colour , I bought 3 monitors this year but idk In less than 3 months so hopefully the 3rd is a charm with the dell that should work with the series s and X lol idk I've never seen Skyrim lag before
Kindly reminding that those official expansion cards have custom controller chips. Also - you didn't format this SSD, you only initialized it xD Basically M$ have some things in mind for keeping their disks safe af. I will give you all a hint - this expansion card uses standard CompactFlash Express plug, and yet no-one talks about that ;)
You could use the tools to format the drive on your pc to make it compatible for Xbox. I know it sound the same as formatting on the Xbox but I see several folks running compatible cards currently.
It works you only needs the correct nmve ssd, i'm using one right without problem i use this adaptar with WD CH SN530 1tb SSD, also you need partition in MBR in order the xbox recognized it
Yeah.. sea gate and Microsoft are greedy as fuck. Who wants to pay 400$ for 4 tb of storage ? That’s more than a series s console. Absolutely ridiculous. You can get the same amount of storage in an external hard drive for about 60 dollars. It’s all about how much money they can possibly take from us.
@@Boba_Fett1980 not even the worst part. If you have a series s, you can't even load a some games on an external hard drive. Yeah it will be slower but atleast let us play on it.
@@fernandovazquez1916 I know. And the newer games do not need fast storage to run. If they do, then why do they run just fine from my external hdd in my gaming pc ? 🤔🤔 no issues at all. It’s all about money
@@fernandovazquez1916 literally the only difference it makes is in loading times. It does not affect performance or fps at all.. and they act like that’s the case
I've figured why it did not worked for you, on (1:14) you say the drive has to be the CH530 which is correct but the one you got (1:24) is the SN530 which also clarifies is PC SN530, this drive and the other are not the same, both are PCIe Gen 3 but the Xbox card is supposed to work with PCIe Gen 4, the CH denomination on the drive that works means that the drive has a special IC that makes it work like PCIe Gen 4 but X2 which is how the internal SSD of the Xbox does, it splits two lanes on the internal drive with the two lanes of the extetnal, which the PC SN530 can't do... technically WD does not sell the CH variant as is, but it comes inside some computers and even some xbox series S (512GB variant of the same drive) also, the enclosure I got came with a paper that said you would have to set the partition table as MBR using Disk Genius but I don't think the use of that specific software is necessary... but I can tell you that if you use the CH drive it still works... technically Microsoft has no reason to patch this... the enclosure has no chips nor ICs, it's just a connector change (from NVME to CF-express wich is aconnection for some cammera drives) and theres actually a couple of drives that can pull the PCIe Gen 4x2 trick this ones tend to have the same controller and memory chips as the originals so... what they did is actually very ingenius, they used standard connectors but a weird configuration... it's too bad that chinese people figured out the whole thing... but that's why whe need more competitors that can make this card... which iv'e seen it's probably very close to happen.
@@dmadking3817 That's possibly a limitation of the regular sizes of the official flash memory, some say that the CH530 doesn't work with the 512GB variant, which might be due to the same thing
@@dmadking3817 I haven't confirmed that myself, you can try getting the CH530 on the used market, I don't know how these people get their hands on these drives but it tends to be quite cheap, I also have seen some long enclosure on Aliexpress, also unconfirmed but maybe that means that chinese people have figured out how to make it work on any drive, it is supposed to be a trick on the drive's ic, so nothing prevents to have an intermediary IC that could even pull that trick on PCIe Gen 3 drives as the speeds xbox's and seagate's drives are pretty much as good as those due to using only 2 lanes... Unfortunately due to the chip shortage it may take long to actually have competing official drives from another manufacturer, but although not easy, we have a way to pay less, hopefully it doesn't take long to figure out how to use any drive....
You shouldn't format in the first place, that's what you did wrong. I've been using mine more than a year and no problems or whatsoever. I mean, my SSD was brand new, the requirement to format only applies to used ssds, not brand new from the factory.
Você utilizou o SSD errado, o modelo correto é o CH sn530 1tb, como você mesmo apresenta na imagem. Porém você adquiriu o modelo PC sn530 1tb, não é compatível.
I was able to get a 6 year old sabrent ssd that is pcie to USB 3.1 to run games marked x/s on a Xbox series s. Just some fancy partitioning and a few tricks. When I plugged in the hard drive to the Xbox using the rear USB ports it even tried to name it sabrent expansion card. I now have 2.3tb of storage. Currently I'm moving Forza horizon 5 to the external to see if a game that resource hungry will work.
@@lvstryds after this last update it stopped working only a few will work off of it now diablo wants me to transfer now, but at least I have 5gbs transfer speed. The partitioning is "borrowed" from a friend's expansion card i formatted it and stuck it back in the Xbox and copied the format onto the SSD.
I'm reading that it should be formatted to MBR and not gpt, I don't know if that is a recent development, or if my info is inaccurate but it's counter to what you tried in the video
Don't forget as a workaround Goto full library hover on a next gen game press the start button manage game and add ons file info look for gen 9 and gen 9 aware the gen 9 aware will play from any external drive.
I am curious how long the storage contract with Seagate will last. I have a 1tb card and when it first released a fast gen 4 nvme cost as much; however, a gen 4, 2tb nvme that will work in a PS5 costs only a bit more. I understand the plug and play benefits, but most Xbox owners don't transfer storage, but keep it plugged in.
I like these little cards, but the larger gen 4 nvme cards have really started to come down. Even if an adapter was made for these longer cards it would also require a separate PSU or would require a usb port for the extra power draw.
@@sjneow Yep that's the biggest problem - the lack of utility. M.2s can be used in so much more than a PS5, but CFexpress has very limited usability outside of the current Xboxes and some fancy digital cameras. That does not bode well for competition.
The adapter or xbox update is not the problem!!!! The ssd used is pci 3.0 (PC SN530) and is not compatible with ultra speed expansion. For this it needs to be a 4.0 ssd (CH SN530). The error is in the details, you used the PC version and the correct one is CH.
Yet your still spending unnecessary money on something you weren't trying to buy in the first place to get these things working which could be patched by Microsoft. It's better for people to go bitch at Microsoft about this stuff on Twitter to get an actual response from them.
xbox's expansion ssd's are such a rip off was going to purchase a 2tb one here in Australia but for $529 screw that, ill just delete the games i have on the system, i instead purchased a nvme 2tb for my ps5 $170 same manufacturer as the xbox drive, best thing sony did with there system
Yes to be honest I noticed even add a new patches to block in even external drives to having different type of controller mods yes I mean he's like a PlayStation 4 on your Xbox specialized patch
Why don't you open the offical expension card (empty, no games) and copy its content secror by sector via linux or some windows app. And maybe if it works, share that empty image file to get it working for everyone else?
The answer to that question is very simple and it pisses me off too but it's just the way it is until people take this a step further and figure out how to fight back against Microsoft. If someone were to do as you asked and Microsoft seen people doing it they would push another patch to block said image by updating the velocity software. If it's possible for for to block unsupported drives it is very possible for them to update their security measures.
What Microsoft needs to do is have some sort of detection kernel in their software so that when someone try to use an unsupported drive it saves to a log on their end and then they could use said log to gather the necessary information on what type of m.2 ssd it is so they can patch in support for those drives. That's what they need to do. Take this as you will and if you want to share this on Twitter directly to Microsoft then be my guest. You may find that other gamers on Xbox will support you on this. Gather enough people to your cause and they might listen to you. Just be very careful as Twitter has a tendency to ban people if the execs don't agree with your posts even if your posts are clean. Essentially Twitter can ban you for absolutely no good reason at all. Be safe. 😎💯
Hopefully we see a more reliable “official” off brand expansion. It’s ridiculous because the expansion is almost the same price as the entire series s console. Even with a Samsung SSD I’m still running out of room every time I install anything from gamepass. I have to either transfer a non exclusive title or just delete something. The architecture is just too fast for anything USB, I guess.
Turns out, the video he ended up showing was the incompatible SSD that consoles cannot store on: *PC* SSD *PC* SSDs will work on ANY PC that you had around (including your laptops), but the XBOX only accepts *CH* which correct me if I’m wrong but it means for *Console Housing* meaning yes, you can put the *CH* SSD on any compatible XBOX SSDs. Both NVMe SSDs are identical, yes…but it’s really easy to fall tricks with anyone - even with their trained eyes. My advice for anyone is to *always* double check every little detail on NVMe SSDs, because you’ll never get what you’re trying to get. Hopefully he’ll revisit this project in the near future.
Just thought I’d chime in, you’ve used the wrong drive, it’s very close but that one is incompatible, a compatible version of that drive has CH instead of PC in its name, otherwise every other part of that drives name is correct
I’ve just been using my 4tb seagate hard drive from my old Xbox one, for newer games that have the XS in the corner they have to be played from an ssd drive so if I don’t have space I’ll just transfer it still takes awhile and is definitely annoying, but all my old games that haven’t been updated work just fine. That’s crazy how much the official ssd drives cost maybe one day but for now I’m chillin with my old one still got hella space transfering the games is still annoying but faster then downloading directly
My wife got me an Xbox Series S for Christmas. The one she purchased only came with 512 GB of storage (she doesn't know too much about tech, lol). I already have an official 4 TB, USB 3.0 Xbox external drive but unfortunately, you cannot play games optimized for the series X|S off of it. I was really hoping this was a viable option because I really do not want to spend another $200-360….
This might have worked at one point but I think it no longer works. Whenever you do something like this you are always one update away from MS breaking it.
This mans eyesight must be wild. But he makes good videos. Keep it up. Like bro I had never thought of the last bit before until I saw this. Great idea
I hate proprietary technologies like the Seagate Expansion Drive. It costs so much money for no other reason besides profits. The 2tb could be mass produced for 35 bucks and sold for 120. Not 200+
By the way now there is an adapter that allows any 2280 SSDs to be used on the XSX/XSS consoles. Would you be interested in making a video about it and also where you can purchase?
hello there bro, where can i find this converter (usb) dongle you plug the ssd to format ? does it come with any of the purchased itens ? (enclosure or ssd) ?
So you just basically wastes 6.5 minutes of everybody’s life, who was unfortunate enough to watch this ? People like you make the world such a magical place…
Just a question You may could transfer whole data from official one into this then it may works There's a couple of softwares for copying you're hard drive into another one so you can use them
Is that still working? Will it work for series x? The biggest problem with official extension card is, when the next gen came around I would be able only to throw it away, because i would not be able to connect it to pc or anything else
@benrowlands would this work if you took out the ssd that comes with the Xbox and then tried using that as an expansion assuming that the firmware is good, and if you had two Xbox’s?
Just absolutely mind blown they charge $200 for this expansion. If it weren’t for optimized games being exclusive to this Nvme method these would be obsolete
I've seen people claiming its working for them, they format it on MBR format on windows, but i think your adapter is a bad one, you should try with a real CFexpress nvme adapter, not saying the one from seagate, just a real CFexpress adapter.
There's no way I am spending that much money on a SSD. A PC can run games just fine on a HDD may be slower but it can run. Microsoft just wants money reason they did that.
When I first insert it into PC, it doesn't automatically detect it. I followed the SSD enclosure instructions. In Disk Management the only format options are ExFat and NTFS, not GPT.
I honestly wish xbox would allow this considering with Sony you can use almost any nvme. 1tb m.2 is around 89$ right now. But the xbox version is still 200? Also I always had a 4tb hdd on my xbox one x ... 1tb is nothing for space with today's games .. I'd like a 4tb or more.. seems stupid to swap storage drives trying to remember what's on what...
Hi, what make of NVME adapter you use? My one a SP PD60 and not recognized by xbox one s or xbox series x as a usb 3.0 drive, however the adapter itself is USB 3.2
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My ssd came without the tiny nvme drive do I need it or can I use without
Clone your original and put it on the fake one.
You may have messed the process at some point, I have the drive and still works no problem, I actually have reformated and still works the same, as a note, the card must be in MBR partition table and not GPT
Tutorial?
Same here. I've been using a 1Gb Western Digital CHSN30 with the adapter for about 2 weeks now with absolutely no issues. My Xbox Series S is completely updated. So I wouldn't go and judge it has been disabled by Microsoft so quickly. However, there's a lot of steps to get wrong and that's what might have happened to Ben.
Disappointed that the video was a bait and switch I got so excited that someone finally made it possible to use another option instead of having to be strong armed into only using Seagate's option! 😥
He's wrong about third party adapter being firmware blocked by MS. I have one that is working perfectly fine. There are lost of steps in the processing so he could have gotten one of them wrong or maybe got a faulty SSD. But trust me, it still works.
@@eliudcdelgado Im sure he is promoting seagate
The reason it did not work for him is because he used the *PC* SN530 ssd. You can see version he bought when he zooms in. This version is NOT compatible! It MUST be the *CH* SN530 ssd.
EXACTLY!!!
Now they get blocked
Also if you buy a WD Black internal storage for $80 but it’s 500 gb and the 1 terabits is as expensive as the sea gate at $150
It's not the expansion card that's being blocked, it's the drive itself. The expansion card serves only as an adapter and it would work if you could harvest a dead internal ssd of an S/X machine. That was patched a while back. The adapters exist for a long time now and can be had for cheap.
Thanks for reviewing this, sucks that it doesn't work reliably. Fingers crossed the accessory people eventually come out with a better decoy and open full M.2 compatibility.
The expansion card limitations are the worst part of Series X.
What sucks is the fact that they're still adding 500gb drives into consoles. The Series X could've easily had an 3-4 TB ssd and the Series S could've had a 1tb ssd. I love my Series S but it still feels very anti consumer being forced to fork out an additional $200 if I want more memory.
@@freakyhokage1554 yeah atleast 2tb on the series x would be nice but that is something we will propably see when the pro versions come out
He did it wrong that's why
@@DaSoggyTurd what did he do wrong?
@@XL3BIGDrizzy He used the *PC* SN530 ssd. You can see version he bought when he zooms in. This version is NOT compatible! It MUST be the *CH* SN530 ssd.
1:25 maybe the issues your having is that your not using the recommended NVMe ssd for full compatibility. It’s supposed to be the CH version. Not the PC
Yeah it's sopposed to be the ch versions
Yep, the CH version is the one in the console. Is more durable and has less usable space (867GB) than the PC version (930GB).
Ok we watched how you can do it and then why it doesn't work. 5 minutes wasted time congrats
This is a good video however there's absolutely no reliable source for MS blocking this third party adapters via firmware. I think Ben just got one step of the process wrong or a just a faulty SSD. However, the adapter actually works. I've been using an adapter myself with no error messages or any other issue at all for about a month. There are some very detailed tutorials in other languages (I've seen some in Spanish and Portuguese) about how to make the adapter work.
Canon added a chip into their camera batteries and once a bunch of people started buying the cheap knock-offs, Canon used a firmware update disabled all those batteries. so MS could possible do the same.
MS is trying to do the Apple memory price gouging. bastards!
@EliudC. Do you have any recommendations on where to look for a ssd? (Either site or brand perhaps)
@@rifz42 I don't think they would do this, this process is way to complicated for the average person
Any links or names to search for one of these tutorials?
Wait till the new update hits and you'll be out of luck buddy
Professional video and what a handsome lad. It is precisely the way how we Chinese players expand our Xbox.
@daniel equere It works as it should. Technically they are the same thing
Because you Chinese can't expand anything else because it's to small 😜
@@chanleka3471 You should make a tutorial!
@@ohsnap3457 you just need to buy the correct SSD, the CH SN530. There is a "PC" version that does not work and no surprise that's what he used in this video. I am assuming that the "CH" version is readily available for a good price in China, whereas it's cost prohibitive to export outside of China.
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I definitely may need to give this a shot man. I love my Series S but I run out of memory every other day and can't afford the Seagate.
You can buy a HDD and switch them back and fourth. Thats what i am doing. But it is still quiet annoying
How much is the Seagate?
@@thaiming1306 it is very annoying. Especially because not all games allow you to play the One version
@@VAL3NTIN3 220 dollars
I bought a 1tb Samsung T7 external SSD for around $130 for my Series S. Granted I can't play games Series X/S optimized games off of it but it's great for storage. Also transfers very quickly back and forth to the internal drive (something like 2.5gb per second)
What SSD did you use? There is a specific model number that you need to use and there are similar WD cards that are not compatible.
Just looked at the video, you got the wrong ssd. It's supposed to be the CH SN530, you got the PC SN530.
And just an FYI to those enterprising enough to try this, the correct SSD costs just as much as the official Seagate drive, so this is pointless.
Yep it's the CH what you want.. and unfortunately like you said it's more expensive now, now that the sellers realized it can be used for Xbox and steam console. It was $120-150 last year on eBay, just be sold as storage for surfaces pros. Should've bought it when I had the chance 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
@@ominousview They do realize if they make them just as much as the xbox one people aren’t going to buy it anymore right? There just gonna buy the flagship one for the same price 🤦♂️
well atleast you know what you are talking about , i was hoping for alternative and its clear that gaming sucks now . even if you buy a decent monitor you still need to research what panel theyre using and what is inside the monitor for it to work , i mean i have bout a few monitors the last few months for my series s , but none of them could beat my old 11 year old tv , the monitors stutter they ghost its a nightmare compared to my tv , the only thing these modern monitor do right is colour but as soon as your character moves say good bye to quality , so honestly idk what we buy anymore
@@DisruptiveUnicorn98k That’s not really a matter of gaming sucking, if anything it’s better it means that you get more options, the technology has gotten more advanced and the market has expanded so you can get a monitor that has what you want specifically, obviously it’s more work but anything thats as important as that should have a little effort put into it, unless you just don’t have to worry about money and can frequently buy a monitor which is nice but not everyone can do that, once they buy one there stuck with it for at least a couple years
@@thepsychicflame I have an 11 year old tv that I bought with or after my Xbox 360 it's 1080p at 60 which isn't much , but then I went and bought a monitor that is supposed to be 165 hz 1440p and HDR and whatever all the bells and whistles,my only issue is , is the laggy images and the rendering that isn't any better than my old tv , and it's really beginning to make me question, because 11 years ago I paid 8000 for my tv my new monitor that is supposed to be cheaper better and all that , only has better colour , I bought 3 monitors this year but idk In less than 3 months so hopefully the 3rd is a charm with the dell that should work with the series s and X lol idk I've never seen Skyrim lag before
My idea would be to buy a legitimate Xbox expansion card. Take it apart clone it then return it and use the clone drive. Maybe that might work.
Kindly reminding that those official expansion cards have custom controller chips. Also - you didn't format this SSD, you only initialized it xD Basically M$ have some things in mind for keeping their disks safe af. I will give you all a hint - this expansion card uses standard CompactFlash Express plug, and yet no-one talks about that ;)
You could use the tools to format the drive on your pc to make it compatible for Xbox. I know it sound the same as formatting on the Xbox but I see several folks running compatible cards currently.
Any RUclips videos? I'm trying to figure out what to use
hopefully this can be done with a normal ssd
Any link?
It works you only needs the correct nmve ssd, i'm using one right without problem i use this adaptar with WD CH SN530 1tb SSD, also you need partition in MBR in order the xbox recognized it
Yea when he showed the onE he bought it was labeled as “PC SN530” which is 3rd gen while “CH SN530” is 4th gen. They sent him the wrong SSD
Can you play X/S games on it?
You should try using a Gen 4 nvme drive rather than gen 3. It might work with that.
Can't I just bypass the earlier steps and just plug the nvme ssd and enclosure straight into the Xbox Series S/X usb port?
OH MAN , I really thought this is gonna work and i dont have to waste my money
For thermal pads, you want to go with the thinnest you can
I've been hoping for something like this ever since the Seagate expansion card was announced. Hopefully someone makes a reliable solution soon!
Wasn't Seagate only supposed to make them for a year? Dammit looks like we're stuck with them.
Yeah.. sea gate and Microsoft are greedy as fuck. Who wants to pay 400$ for 4 tb of storage ? That’s more than a series s console. Absolutely ridiculous. You can get the same amount of storage in an external hard drive for about 60 dollars. It’s all about how much money they can possibly take from us.
@@Boba_Fett1980 not even the worst part. If you have a series s, you can't even load a some games on an external hard drive. Yeah it will be slower but atleast let us play on it.
@@fernandovazquez1916 I know. And the newer games do not need fast storage to run. If they do, then why do they run just fine from my external hdd in my gaming pc ? 🤔🤔 no issues at all. It’s all about money
@@fernandovazquez1916 literally the only difference it makes is in loading times. It does not affect performance or fps at all.. and they act like that’s the case
I've figured why it did not worked for you, on (1:14) you say the drive has to be the CH530 which is correct but the one you got (1:24) is the SN530 which also clarifies is PC SN530, this drive and the other are not the same, both are PCIe Gen 3 but the Xbox card is supposed to work with PCIe Gen 4, the CH denomination on the drive that works means that the drive has a special IC that makes it work like PCIe Gen 4 but X2 which is how the internal SSD of the Xbox does, it splits two lanes on the internal drive with the two lanes of the extetnal, which the PC SN530 can't do... technically WD does not sell the CH variant as is, but it comes inside some computers and even some xbox series S (512GB variant of the same drive) also, the enclosure I got came with a paper that said you would have to set the partition table as MBR using Disk Genius but I don't think the use of that specific software is necessary... but I can tell you that if you use the CH drive it still works... technically Microsoft has no reason to patch this... the enclosure has no chips nor ICs, it's just a connector change (from NVME to CF-express wich is aconnection for some cammera drives) and theres actually a couple of drives that can pull the PCIe Gen 4x2 trick this ones tend to have the same controller and memory chips as the originals so... what they did is actually very ingenius, they used standard connectors but a weird configuration... it's too bad that chinese people figured out the whole thing... but that's why whe need more competitors that can make this card... which iv'e seen it's probably very close to happen.
I tried this with 256gb kioxia bg5, it didn't work. I'll try with letting the Xbox format it. Any recommendations?
@@dmadking3817 That's possibly a limitation of the regular sizes of the official flash memory, some say that the CH530 doesn't work with the 512GB variant, which might be due to the same thing
@@AngelEscobareo hope quietly leaves my soul 😢
@@dmadking3817 I haven't confirmed that myself, you can try getting the CH530 on the used market, I don't know how these people get their hands on these drives but it tends to be quite cheap, I also have seen some long enclosure on Aliexpress, also unconfirmed but maybe that means that chinese people have figured out how to make it work on any drive, it is supposed to be a trick on the drive's ic, so nothing prevents to have an intermediary IC that could even pull that trick on PCIe Gen 3 drives as the speeds xbox's and seagate's drives are pretty much as good as those due to using only 2 lanes...
Unfortunately due to the chip shortage it may take long to actually have competing official drives from another manufacturer, but although not easy, we have a way to pay less, hopefully it doesn't take long to figure out how to use any drive....
@@AngelEscobareo how do i format the drive so that xbox can recognize it
You just saved me 5 hours. I’m going to get the seagate 1TB!! Thanks bro
You shouldn't format in the first place, that's what you did wrong. I've been using mine more than a year and no problems or whatsoever.
I mean, my SSD was brand new, the requirement to format only applies to used ssds, not brand new from the factory.
It does still work I have been using a CF to CH SN530 adapter and an official series s 512GB SSD and it been working for over 6 months now
Você utilizou o SSD errado, o modelo correto é o CH sn530 1tb, como você mesmo apresenta na imagem. Porém você adquiriu o modelo PC sn530 1tb, não é compatível.
I was able to get a 6 year old sabrent ssd that is pcie to USB 3.1 to run games marked x/s on a Xbox series s. Just some fancy partitioning and a few tricks. When I plugged in the hard drive to the Xbox using the rear USB ports it even tried to name it sabrent expansion card. I now have 2.3tb of storage. Currently I'm moving Forza horizon 5 to the external to see if a game that resource hungry will work.
@@lvstryds after this last update it stopped working only a few will work off of it now diablo wants me to transfer now, but at least I have 5gbs transfer speed. The partitioning is "borrowed" from a friend's expansion card i formatted it and stuck it back in the Xbox and copied the format onto the SSD.
Try to clone the expansion card to your ssd . Or open the expansion card and see what makes it work .
tbh, thats what i was thinking, but then it kinda defeats the purpose of buying the adapter to bypass the super high prices of the seagate one
I'm reading that it should be formatted to MBR and not gpt, I don't know if that is a recent development, or if my info is inaccurate but it's counter to what you tried in the video
Don't forget as a workaround
Goto full library hover on a next gen game press the start button manage game and add ons file info look for gen 9 and gen 9 aware the gen 9 aware will play from any external drive.
I am curious how long the storage contract with Seagate will last. I have a 1tb card and when it first released a fast gen 4 nvme cost as much; however, a gen 4, 2tb nvme that will work in a PS5 costs only a bit more. I understand the plug and play benefits, but most Xbox owners don't transfer storage, but keep it plugged in.
Even if the exclusivity contracts ended, i doubt many manufacturers would want to jump in, it is a small market compare to PC
I like these little cards, but the larger gen 4 nvme cards have really started to come down. Even if an adapter was made for these longer cards it would also require a separate PSU or would require a usb port for the extra power draw.
@@sjneow Yep that's the biggest problem - the lack of utility. M.2s can be used in so much more than a PS5, but CFexpress has very limited usability outside of the current Xboxes and some fancy digital cameras. That does not bode well for competition.
@@sjneow but once the contract ends, they can allow these type of custom storage solutions to work.
@@OldSchoolDudeGaming you are just speculating.
If you buy a game online and copy it to ssd and plug on an other Xbox do you need same account to play these game ?
The adapter or xbox update is not the problem!!!!
The ssd used is pci 3.0 (PC SN530) and is not compatible with ultra speed expansion. For this it needs to be a 4.0 ssd (CH SN530). The error is in the details, you used the PC version and the correct one is CH.
So if I get a 4.0 CH SN530, it will work without issues?
Wonder if cloning the drive will solve the issue.
You shloud try and flash the firmware off of the official seagate one and get it on the custom one, the xbox should recognize it as an official drive
Great idea
Yet your still spending unnecessary money on something you weren't trying to buy in the first place to get these things working which could be patched by Microsoft. It's better for people to go bitch at Microsoft about this stuff on Twitter to get an actual response from them.
xbox's expansion ssd's are such a rip off was going to purchase a 2tb one here in Australia but for $529 screw that, ill just delete the games i have on the system, i instead purchased a nvme 2tb for my ps5 $170 same manufacturer as the xbox drive, best thing sony did with there system
Working unreliably sounds like a speed thing or perhaps missing a passive component
The video show both the CH and PC version of SN530 the correct one is the CH or you could use XA1-311024
NVME 4.0 x 2 the CH SN560 will also work
Did you try a 4.0 m.2 ssd with faster speeds?
Yes to be honest I noticed even add a new patches to block in even external drives to having different type of controller mods yes I mean he's like a PlayStation 4 on your Xbox specialized patch
Why don't you open the offical expension card (empty, no games) and copy its content secror by sector via linux or some windows app.
And maybe if it works, share that empty image file to get it working for everyone else?
The answer to that question is very simple and it pisses me off too but it's just the way it is until people take this a step further and figure out how to fight back against Microsoft.
If someone were to do as you asked and Microsoft seen people doing it they would push another patch to block said image by updating the velocity software. If it's possible for for to block unsupported drives it is very possible for them to update their security measures.
What Microsoft needs to do is have some sort of detection kernel in their software so that when someone try to use an unsupported drive it saves to a log on their end and then they could use said log to gather the necessary information on what type of m.2 ssd it is so they can patch in support for those drives. That's what they need to do. Take this as you will and if you want to share this on Twitter directly to Microsoft then be my guest. You may find that other gamers on Xbox will support you on this. Gather enough people to your cause and they might listen to you. Just be very careful as Twitter has a tendency to ban people if the execs don't agree with your posts even if your posts are clean. Essentially Twitter can ban you for absolutely no good reason at all. Be safe. 😎💯
Hopefully we see a more reliable “official” off brand expansion. It’s ridiculous because the expansion is almost the same price as the entire series s console. Even with a Samsung SSD I’m still running out of room every time I install anything from gamepass. I have to either transfer a non exclusive title or just delete something. The architecture is just too fast for anything USB, I guess.
Turns out, the video he ended up showing was the incompatible SSD that consoles cannot store on: *PC* SSD
*PC* SSDs will work on ANY PC that you had around (including your laptops), but the XBOX only accepts *CH* which correct me if I’m wrong but it means for *Console Housing* meaning yes, you can put the *CH* SSD on any compatible XBOX SSDs.
Both NVMe SSDs are identical, yes…but it’s really easy to fall tricks with anyone - even with their trained eyes. My advice for anyone is to *always* double check every little detail on NVMe SSDs, because you’ll never get what you’re trying to get. Hopefully he’ll revisit this project in the near future.
Is there no way to see if there's files on the official ssd, hidden or otherwise and copy them to the unofficial one?
your channel is really really good you deserve more subscribers
Just thought I’d chime in, you’ve used the wrong drive, it’s very close but that one is incompatible, a compatible version of that drive has CH instead of PC in its name, otherwise every other part of that drives name is correct
Hey congratulations! Creator on the rise!
Thanks!
I’ve just been using my 4tb seagate hard drive from my old Xbox one, for newer games that have the XS in the corner they have to be played from an ssd drive so if I don’t have space I’ll just transfer it still takes awhile and is definitely annoying, but all my old games that haven’t been updated work just fine. That’s crazy how much the official ssd drives cost maybe one day but for now I’m chillin with my old one still got hella space transfering the games is still annoying but faster then downloading directly
My wife got me an Xbox Series S for Christmas. The one she purchased only came with 512 GB of storage (she doesn't know too much about tech, lol). I already have an official 4 TB, USB 3.0 Xbox external drive but unfortunately, you cannot play games optimized for the series X|S off of it. I was really hoping this was a viable option because I really do not want to spend another $200-360….
The Xbox Series S only comes with 512GB of storage. The Series X comes with 1TB of storage
@@J3anluka I didn't know that because i just got a series S
@@J3anluka Still laughable compared to games sizes nowadays
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you probs need to transfer the raw petition from the internal ssd onto the expansion ssd for it to work properly
This might have worked at one point but I think it no longer works. Whenever you do something like this you are always one update away from MS breaking it.
This mans eyesight must be wild. But he makes good videos. Keep it up. Like bro I had never thought of the last bit before until I saw this. Great idea
Does this still work?
I hate proprietary technologies like the Seagate Expansion Drive.
It costs so much money for no other reason besides profits. The 2tb could be mass produced for 35 bucks and sold for 120. Not 200+
By the way now there is an adapter that allows any 2280 SSDs to be used on the XSX/XSS consoles.
Would you be interested in making a video about it and also where you can purchase?
What is the cost to just purchase actual Xbox Expansion Card ?
200$ doll +
You could buy 2 expansion card 1 original and 1 to diy and copy the original firmware onto the diy to get it to work
2 cards for 300$
Yes
hello there bro, where can i find this converter (usb) dongle you plug the ssd to format ? does it come with any of the purchased itens ? (enclosure or ssd) ?
So you just basically wastes 6.5 minutes of everybody’s life, who was unfortunate enough to watch this ? People like you make the world such a magical place…
Just a question
You may could transfer whole data from official one into this then it may works
There's a couple of softwares for copying you're hard drive into another one so you can use them
Just one question when you had the ssd plugin with the USB adapter where you able to install and play next gen games though the USB adapter?
Keep it upp love your content so much it's more high quality and professional than other higher subscribed channels
Thanks alot! I put in a lot of time to make the videos as great as possible!
Hi, can the card be taken out of the xbox and put back in while it's running?
Wow this channel is underrated 😘😘
Is that still working? Will it work for series x? The biggest problem with official extension card is, when the next gen came around I would be able only to throw it away, because i would not be able to connect it to pc or anything else
@benrowlands would this work if you took out the ssd that comes with the Xbox and then tried using that as an expansion assuming that the firmware is good, and if you had two Xbox’s?
Is it fast while using it through the USB port?
Does the Alienware aw25 support the Xbox series s 120hz ? I’ve heard Alienware monitors don’t work with it
They do
@@naki8460 Thanks
I mean,there is alot more cheaper way but it doesn't go into the expansion card port
We need an update on this. Test it out again with the latest build.
Skip to 4:55
Thank you
I cant believe 2 years later and theres still not any 3rd party expansion cards. and doing this won't get ur console or account banned?
I'm more curious if you can just throw the 1tb into the internal of the xss and reformat it to get full space?
Just absolutely mind blown they charge $200 for this expansion. If it weren’t for optimized games being exclusive to this Nvme method these would be obsolete
Heyy! I'm probably buying a ps4 or a ps5 which is more worth it please tell me
If you think I'm lucky I'm not
I spent years to convince my parents
I've seen people claiming its working for them, they format it on MBR format on windows, but i think your adapter is a bad one, you should try with a real CFexpress nvme adapter, not saying the one from seagate, just a real CFexpress adapter.
So a encrypted signature file and device whitelist preventing 3rd party nvme drives. Got it!
Here’s the best solution. Do yourself a favor and skip this video.
Any update on this adapter? It has been a year. Do you still have to use the OEM drive used in the systems?
some talented hacker might pull this off someday..
Thanks for this video. I was about to purchase the adapter then I thought, probably some RUclips already done a video on this
What if you clone the seagate exp card
I know it might be a good idea but i wouldn't want to go through all the pain to make this thing well i am fine as of now
There's no way I am spending that much money on a SSD. A PC can run games just fine on a HDD may be slower but it can run. Microsoft just wants money reason they did that.
Why don’t u open the segate one and clone it to the other drive … not if all faults you can put the real drive in the fake adapter
When I first insert it into PC, it doesn't automatically detect it. I followed the SSD enclosure instructions. In Disk Management the only format options are ExFat and NTFS, not GPT.
Exfat and ntfs are the file format while mbr and gpt are the partition table
@syedjimbo3500 Thanks, so which should I use? I'm on Windows 10 not 11
It got detected on my xbox and i got 933 GB
The disc converter not the matrix ssd adapter
I honestly wish xbox would allow this considering with Sony you can use almost any nvme. 1tb m.2 is around 89$ right now. But the xbox version is still 200? Also I always had a 4tb hdd on my xbox one x ... 1tb is nothing for space with today's games .. I'd like a 4tb or more.. seems stupid to swap storage drives trying to remember what's on what...
Thanks for the demo and info, have a great day
Really good review and really good quality subbed and you deserve more than a million subs
Thanks!
@@BenRowlands No problem👍
Hi, what make of NVME adapter you use? My one a SP PD60 and not recognized by xbox one s or xbox series x as a usb 3.0 drive, however the adapter itself is USB 3.2
I would like to see him download a series x game and try to play it when it is being plugged into the front
Seems much easier to just leave it on that usb adapter when you formatted it on the Xbox itself honestly lol
Would this work if say you pulled an ssd out of a broke console and tried it in the adaptor
More storage, more game sells. No storage, no sells, its simple microsoft!
Instructions unclear. Set wallet on fire with my Xbox
you steel my time
Steal
These companies still think we’re living in the 2000’s
You deserve more subs brother
Glad to see Tom Holland is an Xbox fan as well
You looks like Tom Holland brother