Made a mistake, turns out Pask can take a different loadout. In that case, he's A tier definitively. Maybe not S due to cost, squishiness and no Tank Ace trait but still a solid A tier unit. I am sorry I have the dumb
You are only human. But yeah I would leave him in B tier because he is a character with more than 10 wounds so he can be targeted and if your opponent knows who he is and what he can do will shoot the shit out him A.S.A.P.
Bricky... are you telling me you don’t know every last detail about 40k? This game that changes its units and rules and such constantly? How dare you make content on it. What HERESY!
So as someone who loves running basilisks, I should mention it’s strength 9 not 7 :) I’ve ran it as a tank ace once or twice not too bad wit aerial spotter 👍🏼
No, 30 conscripts with a commisar WAS pretty good. Now, take 3 infantry units. Same points, morale doesn't affect other units, and commisars are all but pointless today.
@@lordcastellan4735 Yea but just 4 points more if you only take 3 wyrdvanes, I'd pay 4 points to get 4 manifestations with +2 to cast and 3 Psykana powers instead of 2 manifestations and 2 powers and also can't reliably cast smite
I Don't find "the wall of guns" interesting enough of an army to try to Play. By all means i should not be here. But listening to Bricky talk about Warhammer - sign me the fuck in
My dude I had the same kinda hang ups with guard so I made them more into like an airborne thing with three Valkyries and troops with artillery in the back. What I like about guardsmen is you can just do really whatever you want and sure might not be amazing or anything but its fun as hells
Guard are an extremely aggressive gunline. If you sit back with them, you'll lose. You actually need to be pushing the entire game. Infantry squads are actually very fast, so you're playing a game of maneuvers. Can you move enough guys to hold an objective before you're shot off of it.
I’ve been wanting to get into warhammer but to no avail, I allways get hung up when it comes to comparing units to others when Im figuring out who to take. This helps me weed out units and make proper educated choices with my finances and list building! I need one for the Custodes so badly!!! I’m horribly lost 😞 thank you bricky for this man I’d love to see you tackle the golden bois!
Id love this style of video on Necrons and Space Marines (that might be too broad) Maybe you can do a video on the Indomitus box and rank those units for usefulness etc. Would be really helpful for all of the budget player you guys have gotten into this game!
I would love to see Valks used more often, as I've bought 2 of them recently just so I can relive my days of dropping off Pelicans in Halo but with Scions and Bullgryns. If Guard ever gets Jeeps and Valks can carry them, then I would automatically buy 15 Valks.
@@orkermon7292 Its the Elysian tauros. And its cooler than hell. But that was the Sky Talon Valkyrie, also an Elysian exclusive. There was also a DROP SENTINEL, which is as cool as it sounds. The whole of Elysia got nixxed going into 9th, along with traitor guard, and half of Krieg.
@@coltonlong7562 I will never understand why GW gets rid of cool stuff like that. I guess I'll stick to my Scions in Valks instead of hunting down the right models that I wouldn't even be able to use in tourneys...
Veterans paired with the ‘experienced eyes’ stratagem is really good. Give them first rank second rank and use the stratagem stated before gives you 36 lasgun shots hitting on 3s wounding on 5s (most of the time) at an ap -1. I have destroyed so many units with that.
just a few quick corrections for ya, Straken is a Catachan so he also benefits from +1 str, so his attacks are S7 Infantry are now 5.5 points not 5.1 each Pask can take any loadout, (I normally give him the plasma cannon and hold him back) You missed ba few additional abilities for the master of ordinance and officer with the air strike and artillery barrage abilities Hellhounds blow on a 4+ Manticores HK missiles are also flat 6 if you take full payload The taurox prime with gattling cannon is hard S tier for Infantry clearing with LL imo Otherwise great video, keep it up, proud of you
I love this as a sorta have visual guide to a faction and half tacticle as that sweet spot of what looks cool and what is good is generally how I build armies
As a fellow Imperial Guard player for over a 12 years ( from 2006 to 2018 when I stopped playing, mosty because of lack of time ), this list definietly brings back some memories. Few adnotation : "Fun but overcosted" is basicly a IG anthem at this point :P . Calling guard fragile is like calling Space Marine stronger than average human - true but also compleatly misses the scale of the issue :P . If you are playing horde, you might as well just bring showel to remove models from board en masse. So regular Ogryns still suck balls ? Well, good to know some things never change :P . "Meta is marine heavy" . Brother, metagame is ALWAYS ( with *very few* exceptions in whole history of the game ) overcrowded by some flavour of power armour, be it boys in cyan blue, red, silver or spikes :P . Space Marines are GW favourite child (and income source :P ), they always be relevant is some form. 1:45 - ^^
@@killhitler In the Guard Psychic Awakening book it states you can use the tank ace stratagem for 1cp and/or forgo using a warlord trait for a second tank ace. So you can make Creed your warlord, not give him his trait, and then just take another full payload manticore.
@@JustAScarecrow1 I am a Cadian player so I would love for this to be true but it currently isn't. On page 140 in the Guard codex it says "If a named character with a specific regiment keyword is your Warlord, they *MUST* be given the associated Warlord Trait." You have to take the warlord trait for Creed. Futhermore, in the Psychic Awakening it says "If an ASTRA MILITARUM CHARACTER is your Warlord, rather than determining a Warlord Trait for that model, you can instead select one Tank Ace ability for an ASTRA MILITARUM VEHICLE model from your army." To reiterate, It says rather than determining your Warlord Trait, you can pick a Tank Ace, since Creeds trait is predetermined you cannot exchange it. Also, it just plainly says you must take it. Rules as written, there is really nothing to haggle about. I really wish we could because Creed's warlord trait is kind of useless unless you are very infantry heavy army :(.
@@killhitler Ahhh I see, thanks for clearing that up for me. I'm newer to Guard myself coming from Blood Angels and I must have glossed over that part in the codex. On the brightside (at least for myself) I do run an infantry only cadian list so his trait isn't the worst thing in the world for me. Thanks again for pointing that out for me though, cheers
@@JustAScarecrow1 You're welcome. Thanks for making me look it up. I actually had a tough time remembering were to find it in the Codex. It really isn't super clear. Hopefully, we'll have a new codex soon with lots of exciting new things to do.
So, im starting guard and i wanted to ask, has the commisar not having the officer keyword if he has the warlord trait that allows him to issue orders been changed? if not i think a commisar conscript combo would be pretty neat, 120 shots, 9 leadership, sure hitting on 5s and wounding on 5s aswell (unless deamons, eldar, guard, cults and other 3T factions in which case its 4+) but its still pretty cool. If you run a custom regiment with the benefit to cover unless advanced you have a 30 wound ball with 4+ save, add an inquisitor for a 5+ invul and maybe add a company commander if you have the custom regiment of -1 ap if close to a commander, support the commander with some veterans or basic infantry so his orders aren't wasted and boom, a 30 man ball of hitting on 5s, 4+ save, 5+ invul, ap1, 120 shots not counting the veterans/infantry thats there to support the commander. If you really want to annoy your enemy add bullgryns and whenever the enemy tries to kill your conscripts use 1 cp for the -1 to hit if bullgryns are closer and 1 additional cp for +1 to save giving them 3+ saves. Pretty pog if i do say so myself.
I think this tier list shows a lot about Bricky's playstyle and how the dice check peeps play in general. They're all really focused on objectives and secondaries, which I mean they're amazingly important. This man is a Drop Troopers commander through and through. Like everything he likes is Alpha strikey or designed to be able to hit the enemy turn one. The Leman is far less fragile if you run them as Valhallans, due to them not degrading till they're on their last couple wounds. The real strength of the Leman is it's cheap and hits like a truck. I'm not gonna do a big rant post but go check out goonhammer and 1d4chan tactica to see how to use Lemans effectively. Tank commanders are just better though but you got that 3 limit. Good luck my fellow treadheads
Personally, Tallarn storm lord with veteran squads embarked, it’s open topped so 20 models can fire while protected by it. Sure no invuln and could use tank ace to make it receive benefits or not. But important thing is the stratagem ambush. You can put this in ambush and put on any battlefield edge with over 40 infantry ready to depart. Idk just a fun little gag
amm pask is able to take a demolisher cannon sponsors hunter killer misile and basically all of that he dont have any restriction into that what is more the common load for 8 was with punisher cannon
I shall now argue for a good situation for the wyrdvane psykers because I think they can be pretty neat. You can put them, a primaris psyker, and an inquisitor into a valkyrie and in turn 1 drop a decent mortal wound bomb on the table, all it takes is 1CP to use the psychic conclave stratagem and make 1 primaris psyker and some wyrdvanes cumulatively perform 4 psychic manifestations and both gain +2 to their rolls while knowing up to 3 different powers + smite. If you're willing to splash out and take 6 of the wyrdvanes they get D6+4 for their manifestations which is an auto-smite that can't perils, and for the primaris psyker those tantalising but risky warp charge 7 powers become effectively warp charge 5, and you can super smite on a roll of a 9+ instead of an 11+. Psychic maelstrom is mortal wound output that can pick out characters regardless of screening, terrifying visions makes inquisitors castigation power (which can also pick characters) much easier to activate, and you can get up to 3 smites in addition for between 134 and 158 points (naked malleus inquisitor with 2 manifestations trait + 1 primaris psyker + 3 to 6 wyrdvantes). This little bomb can be just what you need to answer certain units that are basically impossible to deal with conventionally and with a +2 to manifest it gives you the upper hand when psychic denies are available. From mental maths and assuming all casts go off this little combo will drop average 10 ish mortal wounds and can be basically anywhere on the map out of a valkyrie. 4 these mortal wounds can also go on any character within 18", bolster this up with a little conventional sniping and you've got an apothecary removal tool. So yea D tier conventionally, but you don't take them conventionally, you take them to be a 24 or 48 point addition to a primaris psyker and quadruple the combined psychic output, more if you take the boost to your test into account. With the way the meta is going now with low wound count high invul units everywhere, mortal wounds are waaaay more valuable than ever so I think it can definitely be worth it. You can also just start with them on the ground and spend the 1CP to buff the primaris psyker to cast both both nightshroud and psychic barrier on 4+ and have the 24 points of wyrdvanes deploy scramblers in your own deployment zone while out of sight, they're actually cheaper action monkeys than servitors and can roid up a psyker for 1CP, what's not to like? Up next time - The harridan is dope, don't even @ me
Something small that you made a mistake/missed, Straken actually is S7. Hes Strength 6 base and locked to catachan, which means he still gets the regiment trait of +1 strength, same as like pask or creed getting the reroll hit rolls of 1 if you dont move. Also he has that reroll failed wounds vs monsters, which is kinda funny and fluffy to yeet him at a carnie or very funny if he get in range of like a ghostkeel or a riptide, as he can actually kinda hurt them well. Oh and uh, small note on ogyrn bodyguards, you can make a bullgryn with more attacks, a 2+/4++ 6W w/ character protection himself, and gives characters bodyguard protection, which is amusing. I do wonder how this overall list would change now, even though its only a few months old, you guys have learned a lot really.
Most Tournaments rule you can not trade out named character Warlords traits for Tank Aces, find the logic below. The player commanding an army with a named character as warlord does not determine the warlord trait as it is preselected. The tank ace ability triggers in place of determining the Warlord trait for your Warlord. Therefore, the tank ace ability cannot trigger when given to a named character as the underlying conditions are not met. Great content though keep it up, massive fan of Adeptus Ridiculous
I like the presentation of the tier list, but I am curious as to where the information comes from. Is it just your own personal opinion on the units? Regardless, it was a nice video altogether and hope to see more like it in the future.
I believe he has potential, but I´m conflicted. I want him to be a lil more like the meme and less like the actual playable character xDD Imo, he just kinda lacks AP
I want a deathstrike missile launcher, the pure joy and maniacle laughter you get when you launch it are worth all the strategic setbacks that you take to put it on the table.
Someone correct me if I am mistaken, but I believe Straken is limited to a Catachan army, Similar to Creed being exclusive to Cadia. But also, due to being Catachan Straken benefits from +1 strength from "Brutal Strength"
Officer of the fleet is shit in Guard but B plus-ish in Scions. Allowing your Valks to re-roll 1's when they usually hit on 3's in hover mode is pretty tasty. And with the Greater Good Tempestus strategem, his strafing run ability can be picked from 18'' of any Scions unit with a vox.
bruhhhh pask CAN 100% take any turret, pask is s tier bro?! grinding advance with a punisher is like 38 s5 hits, then 9 bolter shots if you want as well, HKM hitting on a 2 rerolling 1? screen this guy as hard as possible and let him mulch through infantry or plink anything else to death. fully kitted out its entirely possible for him to wipe 5 man squads of eradicators
Yarrick is worth his weight in gold for a Tempestus Scion air cav. army. His re-roll 1's bubble frees up so many orders for other things (even good with the Lions WL trait doing the same). My Kappic force with Laurels means I'm getting off the equivalent of 3 orders on one unit since I'm gaining up to two orders 50% of the time without wasting one for Take Aim. That means a lot more First Rank Fire or Elimination Protocol Sanctioned.
Given that the baneblade is the reason I got into Warhammer to say nothing of the Guard itself it hurts me so bad what they've done to it in 9th, especially coming out of 8th where it was kind of viable, never S tier, but you could have fun with it. Now you give up so much just to have it in your army and then it gets blown off the board in your first turn half the time. I really hope the codex just fully revamps guard in the way the Death Guard codex has revamped that faction, we kind of need it.
For 5pts you can put Track Guards on your hellhound to make it move max speed no matter the wounds. With the flamers in shooting and overwatch I feel they are fine. The explode is quite fine
Maybe I'm confused but isn't tailoring your forces to be good against whomever your engaging like basic military strategy? Is it considered bad etiquette in 40k table games?
If you are really worried about Deny the Witch, just pay 60 points for a base Inquisitor. All around better and has a bunch of special weapons they can take for free now. Can even spend 1 cp and if they are Ordo Malleus, get +1 cast/deny/know and can give a unit a 5++. Also, don't compare point for units from different 'dexes. That's how shit gets screwed up. For example, you cant compare the Infantry Squad's point cost to Cultist's, because the Squad is our primary troop choice.
Iron hand Straken and the ministorum priest have different abilities so their +1 attack stack on Catachans. 3 ST4 melee attacks for a 5 point model is great.
I keep seeing audio video out of sync issues with the DiceCheck videos. They haven't been a big deal in early videos but Bricky's opening line about HQs isn't remotely synced with video. Stay vigilant in your sound sync I know that you guys have amazing production quality.
Bricky my friend, u forgot the crusaders, they get a solid buff, they get 16 price p/m , now the miracles u can choose wat u get , no more rolling the d6 ther get power swords and storm shield for a solid 3+/4+ i love it
Frankly, i don't play the game or understand a dime about it. But enjoy seeing these guys cracking jokes. Which why, i think these videos work great when you all together. Again, my opinion is worth nothing.
I am confused about the tank commander, where is he getting such good stats from? The demolished is the only weapon that allows for 10 strength but only has 1d6 damage. Where is he getting 2d6 attacks from as well?
Uhhhh... He dropped the ball BAD when talking about the Basilisk at 23:30. The Earthshaker Cannon is S9, not S7, and while it's 1d6 shots, you specifically roll two dice and take the highest. Sure it's not S or A tier material, but it's definitely good enough to put it in B. Especially since it's a full 20 points cheaper than a Manticore.
Made a mistake, turns out Pask can take a different loadout. In that case, he's A tier definitively. Maybe not S due to cost, squishiness and no Tank Ace trait but still a solid A tier unit.
I am sorry I have the dumb
it ok ur still hot
You are only human. But yeah I would leave him in B tier because he is a character with more than 10 wounds so he can be targeted and if your opponent knows who he is and what he can do will shoot the shit out him A.S.A.P.
It's Warhammer 40k it's a lot of shit to know and remember. 🥪
Bricky... are you telling me you don’t know every last detail about 40k? This game that changes its units and rules and such constantly? How dare you make content on it. What HERESY!
So as someone who loves running basilisks, I should mention it’s strength 9 not 7 :) I’ve ran it as a tank ace once or twice not too bad wit aerial spotter 👍🏼
Video: Marbo's missing !
Me: It's lore accurate !
AAAAAAAAAAA
Your not wrong...
Oh dang! You’re right! I’ve watched this video three times and I never noticed Sly Marino’s absence! His stealth skills are just that insane?!?
@@Nobleheart111 Sly Marbo could hide from the Adeptus Custodes. While in the Imperial Palace.
Damn, now you guys really got me. Tier lists are dangerously addictive
Oh God the Space Marine Tier Vid is going to be as long as LotR Trilogy
Bold of you to assume it will be that short
"we're not talking about forgeworld units"
*Sad gasmask noises*
I was really hoping to hear some thoughts of Krieg, main reason I clicked.
@@echothegecko2875 instead we have 3 catachan units and the rest cadia
That's because if Forgeworld was included then Death Riders would be S tier and everything else in the Imperial Guard range would be C tier or below
there are no more Krieg units tho we just got fuckin deleted again.
@@cyanideinmycereal1077 xtra sad gas mask noises
"Hellhounds go up, flame and die in an explosion!"
I honestly don't see the downside here.
2 points for bring it down per hellhound is the downside.
@@stibosis take the Artemia Pattern Hellhound and dollars to donuts you are earning more points than they're earning off it IF they kill it
I take two down flanks, stuff dies, they nearly always earn there points as people shoot at my lemons 😁
Only Hellhounds and Conscripts for maximum glory 😈
Death riders of krieg is the best astra militarum unit. No joke.
That is no laughing matter. FIRE ANOTHER ARTILLERY BOMBARDMENT
Yea, till they get dropped like half of krieg did. I was saving for krieg, that cut saved me a shit ton of money.
Colton Long same lol
@@coltonlong7562 but why save money on such badass models
@@unifiedhorizons2663 To pay taxes and food.
30 Conscripts with a commissar on a backfield objective is pretty good.
No, 30 conscripts with a commisar WAS pretty good. Now, take 3 infantry units. Same points, morale doesn't affect other units, and commisars are all but pointless today.
Finding out Bricky also plays Guard makes me quite happy.
Primaris psykers don't cast twice. They just know 2 powers.
Unless of course you take it with a unit of wyrdvane psykers, then you can use a 1CP strat to *both* gain an extra manifestation and +2 to their rolls
@@MrPsycogoldfish if you go that route, you're paying more than 2 astropaths and wyrdvanes aren't characters, so they can always be targeted.
@@lordcastellan4735 Yea but just 4 points more if you only take 3 wyrdvanes, I'd pay 4 points to get 4 manifestations with +2 to cast and 3 Psykana powers instead of 2 manifestations and 2 powers and also can't reliably cast smite
@@MrPsycogoldfish in 6" of that WYRDVANE PSYKERS unit. Very nice!
Can you do a tier list for the Xenos armies, especially the Necrons
Another necron player brother! May your dynasty be nasty!
@@ostidenerd9108 Even better, nightmares are on the march!
All I got from that was: "This army used to be good, but like the others it had to be nerfed to appease the Marine players".
Love watching these videos whilst building and painting my genestealer cult models
I’m telling the commissar on you
@@FunkBastid I’m telling the primus on you
I wish Bricky was a Teacher because his voice just makes me want to listen to him.
I think that strakken gives the catachan +1 strength to himself, as do all officers.
Please do a tier list for Custodes + Sisters of Silence.
would love this for all the other factions as well!!
I Don't find "the wall of guns" interesting enough of an army to try to Play. By all means i should not be here. But listening to Bricky talk about Warhammer - sign me the fuck in
My dude I had the same kinda hang ups with guard so I made them more into like an airborne thing with three Valkyries and troops with artillery in the back. What I like about guardsmen is you can just do really whatever you want and sure might not be amazing or anything but its fun as hells
@@pantsmage970 valyks are hella fun
@@jacksilverman2522 only way to win lol
Guard are an extremely aggressive gunline. If you sit back with them, you'll lose. You actually need to be pushing the entire game. Infantry squads are actually very fast, so you're playing a game of maneuvers. Can you move enough guys to hold an objective before you're shot off of it.
i would love to have this updated with the new codex
PLEASE do a tier list for all factions. This is very helpful for me as a new player (and also very entertaining).
I want to imagine Bricky coughing, and everyone in the room looking in panic, so he has to say "I'm good"
Umm... Pask can take any of the Lemann Russ options, he's not "locked into" the battle cannon?
That's what I thought too, I take him with the gatling cannon.
"Tokyo drifting some tank commanders" xD
i dont even play the warhammer tabletop game yet still watched this video twice for some reason.
We need an AdMech tier list now, the Omnissiah demands it!
I’ve been wanting to get into warhammer but to no avail, I allways get hung up when it comes to comparing units to others when Im figuring out who to take. This helps me weed out units and make proper educated choices with my finances and list building! I need one for the Custodes so badly!!! I’m horribly lost 😞 thank you bricky for this man I’d love to see you tackle the golden bois!
Id love this style of video on Necrons and Space Marines (that might be too broad) Maybe you can do a video on the Indomitus box and rank those units for usefulness etc. Would be really helpful for all of the budget player you guys have gotten into this game!
Bricky: D-Tier in stats but S-Tier in my heart
Me: Basically half of my tastes in everything
I would love to see Valks used more often, as I've bought 2 of them recently just so I can relive my days of dropping off Pelicans in Halo but with Scions and Bullgryns. If Guard ever gets Jeeps and Valks can carry them, then I would automatically buy 15 Valks.
Same my dude same
If you don't mind using legends than there is a gun buggy that can be deployed by a Valk
@@francescolnicoletti1519 I really wish Legends wasn't a thing, but I'll take a look into it.
@@orkermon7292 Its the Elysian tauros. And its cooler than hell. But that was the Sky Talon Valkyrie, also an Elysian exclusive. There was also a DROP SENTINEL, which is as cool as it sounds. The whole of Elysia got nixxed going into 9th, along with traitor guard, and half of Krieg.
@@coltonlong7562 I will never understand why GW gets rid of cool stuff like that. I guess I'll stick to my Scions in Valks instead of hunting down the right models that I wouldn't even be able to use in tourneys...
This was a pretty cool video looking forward to tier lists on every army
Clicked for bricky, good job putting him in the thumbnail.
Damn Hell Hounds, they're too fargile!
Veterans paired with the ‘experienced eyes’ stratagem is really good. Give them first rank second rank and use the stratagem stated before gives you 36 lasgun shots hitting on 3s wounding on 5s (most of the time) at an ap -1. I have destroyed so many units with that.
I’m so glad a Bricky has has moved on from exclusively Minecraft Let’s Plays, so inspiring!
just a few quick corrections for ya,
Straken is a Catachan so he also benefits from +1 str, so his attacks are S7
Infantry are now 5.5 points not 5.1 each
Pask can take any loadout, (I normally give him the plasma cannon and hold him back)
You missed ba few additional abilities for the master of ordinance and officer with the air strike and artillery barrage abilities
Hellhounds blow on a 4+
Manticores HK missiles are also flat 6 if you take full payload
The taurox prime with gattling cannon is hard S tier for Infantry clearing with LL imo
Otherwise great video, keep it up, proud of you
man i dont even play 40k but i see bricky i click
I love this as a sorta have visual guide to a faction and half tacticle as that sweet spot of what looks cool and what is good is generally how I build armies
Your second army is SoB you have to make a video about them as well!!
As a fellow Imperial Guard player for over a 12 years ( from 2006 to 2018 when I stopped playing, mosty because of lack of time ), this list definietly brings back some memories. Few adnotation :
"Fun but overcosted" is basicly a IG anthem at this point :P .
Calling guard fragile is like calling Space Marine stronger than average human - true but also compleatly misses the scale of the issue :P . If you are playing horde, you might as well just bring showel to remove models from board en masse.
So regular Ogryns still suck balls ? Well, good to know some things never change :P .
"Meta is marine heavy" . Brother, metagame is ALWAYS ( with *very few* exceptions in whole history of the game ) overcrowded by some flavour of power armour, be it boys in cyan blue, red, silver or spikes :P . Space Marines are GW favourite child (and income source :P ), they always be relevant is some form.
1:45 - ^^
nice dude. i hope you will bring a tier list for battle sisters too.
Thanks for doing this! I'm starting a good ol gaurd army. While I'm mostly doing what I think is cool. Its nice to see a ranking!
Genius idea. Keep doing this for all the factions please.
you can definitely tell that the text on the side is literally just the editor trying to paraphrase whatever bricky is saying again
That’s fine it adds a quick summary
Yes but isn’t that the point? What else should he be doing with the text and screen space?
I was sad about not seeing any memes of Creed hiding giant mechs behind a bush or something.
I thought to myself, hmm I'm going to look up a list for my guard, and boom - you posted. Ask and I shall receive, thank you!
as I was watching and listening to the music, is that the music that plays in Tarrey Town in botw?
Where's it say Creed's warlord trait isn't required? Can't find it anywhere.
I am pretty sure he is mistaken. It says you *must* take his warlord trait. Rules as written you cannot exchange his warlord trait for a Tank Ace.
@@killhitler In the Guard Psychic Awakening book it states you can use the tank ace stratagem for 1cp and/or forgo using a warlord trait for a second tank ace. So you can make Creed your warlord, not give him his trait, and then just take another full payload manticore.
@@JustAScarecrow1 I am a Cadian player so I would love for this to be true but it currently isn't. On page 140 in the Guard codex it says "If a named character with a specific regiment keyword is your Warlord, they *MUST* be given the associated Warlord Trait." You have to take the warlord trait for Creed. Futhermore, in the Psychic Awakening it says "If an ASTRA MILITARUM CHARACTER is your Warlord, rather than determining a Warlord Trait for that model, you can instead select one Tank Ace ability for an ASTRA MILITARUM VEHICLE model from your army." To reiterate, It says rather than determining your Warlord Trait, you can pick a Tank Ace, since Creeds trait is predetermined you cannot exchange it. Also, it just plainly says you must take it. Rules as written, there is really nothing to haggle about.
I really wish we could because Creed's warlord trait is kind of useless unless you are very infantry heavy army :(.
@@killhitler Ahhh I see, thanks for clearing that up for me. I'm newer to Guard myself coming from Blood Angels and I must have glossed over that part in the codex. On the brightside (at least for myself) I do run an infantry only cadian list so his trait isn't the worst thing in the world for me. Thanks again for pointing that out for me though, cheers
@@JustAScarecrow1 You're welcome. Thanks for making me look it up. I actually had a tough time remembering were to find it in the Codex. It really isn't super clear. Hopefully, we'll have a new codex soon with lots of exciting new things to do.
I’m starting to think you’re the Brandon Herrera of the warhammer youtube channels
So, im starting guard and i wanted to ask, has the commisar not having the officer keyword if he has the warlord trait that allows him to issue orders been changed? if not i think a commisar conscript combo would be pretty neat, 120 shots, 9 leadership, sure hitting on 5s and wounding on 5s aswell (unless deamons, eldar, guard, cults and other 3T factions in which case its 4+) but its still pretty cool. If you run a custom regiment with the benefit to cover unless advanced you have a 30 wound ball with 4+ save, add an inquisitor for a 5+ invul and maybe add a company commander if you have the custom regiment of -1 ap if close to a commander, support the commander with some veterans or basic infantry so his orders aren't wasted and boom, a 30 man ball of hitting on 5s, 4+ save, 5+ invul, ap1, 120 shots not counting the veterans/infantry thats there to support the commander. If you really want to annoy your enemy add bullgryns and whenever the enemy tries to kill your conscripts use 1 cp for the -1 to hit if bullgryns are closer and 1 additional cp for +1 to save giving them 3+ saves. Pretty pog if i do say so myself.
Man, you CAN change Pask wargear, this makes him one of the best units in codex, if not the best. He's definitely higher than B tier
Punisher cannon with -1 ap
@@BAGELMENSK you can't give tank ace to Pask
This I did not know. Might put him in A tier then. Still can't give him a tank ace but I guess I just had a case of the dumb
I think this tier list shows a lot about Bricky's playstyle and how the dice check peeps play in general. They're all really focused on objectives and secondaries, which I mean they're amazingly important.
This man is a Drop Troopers commander through and through. Like everything he likes is Alpha strikey or designed to be able to hit the enemy turn one.
The Leman is far less fragile if you run them as Valhallans, due to them not degrading till they're on their last couple wounds.
The real strength of the Leman is it's cheap and hits like a truck. I'm not gonna do a big rant post but go check out goonhammer and 1d4chan tactica to see how to use Lemans effectively.
Tank commanders are just better though but you got that 3 limit. Good luck my fellow treadheads
Now Bricky has my complete RUclips feed with Adeptus Ridiculous and his channel (where he praised the M-96 Mattock so he is a Chad).
Personally, Tallarn storm lord with veteran squads embarked, it’s open topped so 20 models can fire while protected by it. Sure no invuln and could use tank ace to make it receive benefits or not. But important thing is the stratagem ambush. You can put this in ambush and put on any battlefield edge with over 40 infantry ready to depart. Idk just a fun little gag
amm pask is able to take a demolisher cannon sponsors hunter killer misile and basically all of that he dont have any restriction into that
what is more the common load for 8 was with punisher cannon
I shall now argue for a good situation for the wyrdvane psykers because I think they can be pretty neat.
You can put them, a primaris psyker, and an inquisitor into a valkyrie and in turn 1 drop a decent mortal wound bomb on the table, all it takes is 1CP to use the psychic conclave stratagem and make 1 primaris psyker and some wyrdvanes cumulatively perform 4 psychic manifestations and both gain +2 to their rolls while knowing up to 3 different powers + smite. If you're willing to splash out and take 6 of the wyrdvanes they get D6+4 for their manifestations which is an auto-smite that can't perils, and for the primaris psyker those tantalising but risky warp charge 7 powers become effectively warp charge 5, and you can super smite on a roll of a 9+ instead of an 11+.
Psychic maelstrom is mortal wound output that can pick out characters regardless of screening, terrifying visions makes inquisitors castigation power (which can also pick characters) much easier to activate, and you can get up to 3 smites in addition for between 134 and 158 points (naked malleus inquisitor with 2 manifestations trait + 1 primaris psyker + 3 to 6 wyrdvantes). This little bomb can be just what you need to answer certain units that are basically impossible to deal with conventionally and with a +2 to manifest it gives you the upper hand when psychic denies are available. From mental maths and assuming all casts go off this little combo will drop average 10 ish mortal wounds and can be basically anywhere on the map out of a valkyrie. 4 these mortal wounds can also go on any character within 18", bolster this up with a little conventional sniping and you've got an apothecary removal tool.
So yea D tier conventionally, but you don't take them conventionally, you take them to be a 24 or 48 point addition to a primaris psyker and quadruple the combined psychic output, more if you take the boost to your test into account. With the way the meta is going now with low wound count high invul units everywhere, mortal wounds are waaaay more valuable than ever so I think it can definitely be worth it. You can also just start with them on the ground and spend the 1CP to buff the primaris psyker to cast both both nightshroud and psychic barrier on 4+ and have the 24 points of wyrdvanes deploy scramblers in your own deployment zone while out of sight, they're actually cheaper action monkeys than servitors and can roid up a psyker for 1CP, what's not to like?
Up next time - The harridan is dope, don't even @ me
I've always been a fan of Aircav (rip Elysians), and the 9th changes to vehicles made the valks so much better for what I do.
Something small that you made a mistake/missed, Straken actually is S7. Hes Strength 6 base and locked to catachan, which means he still gets the regiment trait of +1 strength, same as like pask or creed getting the reroll hit rolls of 1 if you dont move.
Also he has that reroll failed wounds vs monsters, which is kinda funny and fluffy to yeet him at a carnie or very funny if he get in range of like a ghostkeel or a riptide, as he can actually kinda hurt them well.
Oh and uh, small note on ogyrn bodyguards, you can make a bullgryn with more attacks, a 2+/4++ 6W w/ character protection himself, and gives characters bodyguard protection, which is amusing.
I do wonder how this overall list would change now, even though its only a few months old, you guys have learned a lot really.
Awesome videos guys! Really loving the content, keep it up!
You should do more of these, maybe do a tier list of the army's inside of each factions
19:06 there's a typo, fargile instead of fragile.
Bricky be a man after my own heart with the love of the guard
When does the next tournament start? I love the channel so far/ I wish u guys were part of the Vegas Nopen. Keep it up!
a fun thing you can do with full payload manticores is put a hunter killer missile on it with flat 6 damage
I would love one on the Custodies
i have no idea what any of this stuff means. but i love warhammer, imperial guard, and bricky so i will subscribe
Most Tournaments rule you can not trade out named character Warlords traits for Tank Aces, find the logic below.
The player commanding an army with a named character as warlord does not determine the warlord trait as it is preselected.
The tank ace ability triggers in place of determining the Warlord trait for your Warlord.
Therefore, the tank ace ability cannot trigger when given to a named character as the underlying conditions are not met.
Great content though keep it up, massive fan of Adeptus Ridiculous
I like the presentation of the tier list, but I am curious as to where the information comes from. Is it just your own personal opinion on the units?
Regardless, it was a nice video altogether and hope to see more like it in the future.
Any thoughts on Sly Marbo as an HQ choice? I don't think he's ever managed to accomplish anything noteworthy in the games I've taken him.
I believe he has potential, but I´m conflicted. I want him to be a lil more like the meme and less like the actual playable character xDD Imo, he just kinda lacks AP
I want a deathstrike missile launcher, the pure joy and maniacle laughter you get when you launch it are worth all the strategic setbacks that you take to put it on the table.
As an aside, what are your thoughts on a leman Russ squadron with while we stand we fight as a secondary.
Someone correct me if I am mistaken, but I believe Straken is limited to a Catachan army, Similar to Creed being exclusive to Cadia.
But also, due to being Catachan Straken benefits from +1 strength from "Brutal Strength"
I unknowingly had stardew running minimized in window mode on the main menu screen while I watched this... the music synched up surprisingly well.
hey can you do one of these for the new death guard codex?
Did they change Pask? I thought you could change out the weapons. 🤔 (Or maybe I'm just a dirty lost cheater)
no they hadnt changed anithing
You can, pask can take any of the leman variant.
Officer of the fleet is shit in Guard but B plus-ish in Scions. Allowing your Valks to re-roll 1's when they usually hit on 3's in hover mode is pretty tasty. And with the Greater Good Tempestus strategem, his strafing run ability can be picked from 18'' of any Scions unit with a vox.
Love the Nintendo heavy BGM. I think I heard the Wii store, a gen 3 pokemon city and Mario party 1 main menu
You're going to change that rating on the Commissars after the Drukhari codex is out. I bet you a dollar.
bruhhhh pask CAN 100% take any turret, pask is s tier bro?! grinding advance with a punisher is like 38 s5 hits, then 9 bolter shots if you want as well, HKM hitting on a 2 rerolling 1? screen this guy as hard as possible and let him mulch through infantry or plink anything else to death. fully kitted out its entirely possible for him to wipe 5 man squads of eradicators
Yarrick is worth his weight in gold for a Tempestus Scion air cav. army. His re-roll 1's bubble frees up so many orders for other things (even good with the Lions WL trait doing the same). My Kappic force with Laurels means I'm getting off the equivalent of 3 orders on one unit since I'm gaining up to two orders 50% of the time without wasting one for Take Aim. That means a lot more First Rank Fire or Elimination Protocol Sanctioned.
Waaait a minute.. yes, I want to main astra militarum.. just realized you're doing content for more than one of my favourite hobbies
Correction: We lost “Emperor’s Wrath” artillery company. Emperor’s Fist is for tanks.
Emperor's Fist is for Leman Russell. We still have Emperor's Wrath for Basilisks, Wyverns, and Manticores
Can Baneblade be compared with Imperial Knight? Cuz i bought Canis Rex recently, and now searching for some infantry support for it
So sad for the Baneblade.. and I have just about finished painting mine.. How many points should it be you think? 350p bare?
5:53 *scuzi?*
Given that the baneblade is the reason I got into Warhammer to say nothing of the Guard itself it hurts me so bad what they've done to it in 9th, especially coming out of 8th where it was kind of viable, never S tier, but you could have fun with it. Now you give up so much just to have it in your army and then it gets blown off the board in your first turn half the time. I really hope the codex just fully revamps guard in the way the Death Guard codex has revamped that faction, we kind of need it.
For 5pts you can put Track Guards on your hellhound to make it move max speed no matter the wounds. With the flamers in shooting and overwatch I feel they are fine. The explode is quite fine
Good use of the Mario Party menu music.... Sweet sweet nostalgia
Maybe I'm confused but isn't tailoring your forces to be good against whomever your engaging like basic military strategy?
Is it considered bad etiquette in 40k table games?
If you are really worried about Deny the Witch, just pay 60 points for a base Inquisitor. All around better and has a bunch of special weapons they can take for free now. Can even spend 1 cp and if they are Ordo Malleus, get +1 cast/deny/know and can give a unit a 5++. Also, don't compare point for units from different 'dexes. That's how shit gets screwed up. For example, you cant compare the Infantry Squad's point cost to Cultist's, because the Squad is our primary troop choice.
Iron hand Straken and the ministorum priest have different abilities so their +1 attack stack on Catachans. 3 ST4 melee attacks for a 5 point model is great.
I keep seeing audio video out of sync issues with the DiceCheck videos. They haven't been a big deal in early videos but Bricky's opening line about HQs isn't remotely synced with video. Stay vigilant in your sound sync I know that you guys have amazing production quality.
Bricky my friend, u forgot the crusaders, they get a solid buff, they get 16 price p/m , now the miracles u can choose wat u get , no more rolling the d6 ther get power swords and storm shield for a solid 3+/4+ i love it
What do you feel about grenade launchers or flamers on the infantery squad?
Are you guys gonna do this for each faction?
Frankly, i don't play the game or understand a dime about it. But enjoy seeing these guys cracking jokes. Which why, i think these videos work great when you all together.
Again, my opinion is worth nothing.
Wait.. you can remove creeds warlord trait and take a second tank ace?
I am confused about the tank commander, where is he getting such good stats from? The demolished is the only weapon that allows for 10 strength but only has 1d6 damage. Where is he getting 2d6 attacks from as well?
Grinding advance rule lets you shoot the main turret weapon twice if you move half your movement (5 inches)
Have you ever considered an in depth guide on how to start Guard?
Would definitely like a Sisters list.
Uhhhh... He dropped the ball BAD when talking about the Basilisk at 23:30. The Earthshaker Cannon is S9, not S7, and while it's 1d6 shots, you specifically roll two dice and take the highest. Sure it's not S or A tier material, but it's definitely good enough to put it in B. Especially since it's a full 20 points cheaper than a Manticore.
Inb4 watching: if the Krieg Boys aren't #1, someone's getting the shovel.
No forgeworld 😢