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0:00 Introduction
1:05 HQ's
13:09 Troops
14:13 Elites
22:07 Fast Attack
25:20 Flyers
26:18 Heavy Support
30:16 Fortifications
30:39 Lord of Wars
33:33 Recap 
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Definitely missed a trick by not calling this a Necrontyr list
Good one, Pili-Pala
Got a good chuckle on this one
IKR
Came here to say this. Not disappointed
...Dad?
Thanks guys. You just cost me hundreds of dollars pushing me off the fence on warhammer.
I hope GW is giving you kickbacks.
i hope gw gives us literally anything at all whatsoever
@@DiceCheck honestly even if it was just free paint lol. I feel like the age demographic draw from just Matt and Bricky's previous fanbase alone is pretty valuable to them in a pandemic year. You guys produce top notch content. Not going to lie it is 90% of what got me from just a closet warhammer fan to actually buying models to paint instead of screaming at video games before bed. Have Tom do a 5 mins Knight Tier list, it's just free views for reviewing 3 models lol.
@@AltoStratusX1 if your just getting into the hobby can I recommend not using GW paint. They are crazy thick and dry instantly. Can I recommend Vallejo paints. I've started painting my iyanden eldar with them recently and they're great
@Sam Colaccino Oooohhhh, so that's why my retributor gold for my Nihilakh looks awful always. I really thought it was my fault.
@@alexchatter692 Eh... I agree on most levels. Most GW base and layer paints are tricky to work with - funnily enough, the Air range are good for beginner painters because they are pre-thinned - but there are two areas I say Citadel paints are great. Texture paints are really well formulated for quick and easy basing. And; while they were marketed as being for new painters, the Contrast paints are actually really versatile and work almost like brush-on inks over most base tones. I use Black Templar to alter the tone of vallejo metallics. I use Apothecary White to deepen the tones of Clone models in Star Wars Legion. I use the colored ones for specific roles. But, I'm also slowly transitioning away from Citadel base and layer paints for the most part, especially as my local store starts to stock better lines - Vallejo model color, Vallejo metal color, Scale75, Turbodork metallics, etc, etc.
EDIT: Also forgot washes. GW washes are much more subtle than contrast paints; and for newer painters it's easier to use those than to, say, thin your own washes. Or for me being lazy and just grabbing the Agrax or Nuln Oil for basing.
As a necrons player thank you
as a 100% win rate Necron player with exactly 1 win under my belt, the tachyon arrow that the Overlord has hasn't failed me yet
Math checks out, can't argue with science.
Replace it with the infinite arrow if he's your warlord
Valrak's alt account...
"Patience"
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Yall did a great job of leveling out the forehead shine, bricky looks fabulous!
Emperor bless his forehead!
Now I cant see Bricky anywhere without thinking of Adeptus Ridiclious
The Necrons were one of the big hooks that drew me into Warhammer 40,000. I love their lore, I love their aesthetic, and I loved playing as them in Dawn of War Dark Crusade. Glad to hear they’re doing well in the tabletop game and I totally intend to get some models of them one day.
Never been a better time as they're in all of the starter boxes :)
@@depalapili-pala4859 Bold of you to assume I plan on buying them from Games Workshop instead of making my own 3D-printed miniatures for myself. :3
@@trumediamix1 definitely better to do it that way. they're super pricey right now.
@@trumediamix1 dunno if I'd say bold but ok
@@thesen8 I actually wanna make and sell tabletop miniatures one day - both for my own original tabletop game and Warhammer 40,000 miniatures based on my fanfiction (I.E - a cult-like Imperial Guard regiment that specializes in plasma weapons - the Children of Terra).
Point of Order on Orokin, there is a a difference on his Master Chronomancer rules. It says friendly Necron unit, not friendly Dynasty, which means he can give Triarch Praetorian's the Invuln and reroll charges. theres also C'tan shards but at point its just for the rerolls to charges.
Haha I just posted that too! I used him like that and it was just insane
Hey bricky, how good are necrons? Bricky- I'm going to put Them in "A" tier.
As someone who’s played this army competitively for a few months now, you’ve pretty much hit the nail on the head with the tier list (except for the lokhust lord he’s still my ultra weird tech choice).
The issue with the codex sadly doesn’t come from our individual units. It’s a sheer lack of cohesiveness, and a lack of anything reactive.
For the reactive stuff it’s easy. We don’t have anything like the dozen marine strategems to fall back and shoot, transhuman, +1 save, shoot on death, etc. with the exception of quantum shielding, every strategem you use will be during your turn. There will be no mystery for your opponent, and it just comes down to how much damage they do.
But the cohesiveness is weirder. It’s more than just the lack of core. It’s how our army just doesn’t mesh right. The buffing characters are all great, but only really work on warriors, lychguard, and immortals. Tomb blades are awesome, but too fast to get any support from core. Destroyers are great but can’t interact with the non destroyer stuff. Canoptek can only be buffed by crypteks, but they’re all normally too mobile to keep up with them. Doomstalkers and doomsday arks all want to get up close to help out, but if they get charged there isn’t much you can do. Triarchs are amazing but can only be buffed by the silent king, who wants to buff everything. The silent king is amazing, but buffs weirdly, because he wants to buff your shooting and buff your melee, but only on core stuff, which isn’t where he’s needed most. He’s also a monster in his own right, but his shooting and melee are just slightly too dispersed to be amazing. A little anti tank, a little anti elite, a little anti horde, it’s just not all quite there. The whole codex is kinda like that, and it’s that sheer lack of unit which holds the necrons back from being a top tier faction.
We need more core units...
Technomancers can take a Canoptek cloak to keep up with the faster Canoptek units, but then can't take the Canoptek Control Node...I'm sad.
Well that fits the lore right? Cause army necrons spread out and divided and that's what holds them up from nodding everyone? Or am I wrong?
"Tomb blades are awesome, but too fast to get any support from core"
I agree on that. Space Marines get a Captain on Bike. Why can't Necrons get an "Overlord on Tomb Blade"? That would be friggin' awesome.
@@traviscumbest3946 eh, not really. Necrons normally have extremely good control over their subordinates, with exceptions of flayed ones, and canoptek units aren’t at all independent, they’re constructs which do exactly as ordered.
However, necrons are constantly warring and conflicting with each other, which is something much more important that stops them from yoloing the galaxy.
was literally about to go paint some necrons and this was uploaded. good timing lol
As someone currently reading The Infinite and the the Divine, it makes me VERY sad that Trazyn and Orikan are so "meh"
Orikan isn't 'meh' at all. He gives C'tan and Triarch units a re-roll to their charge. That same ability gives massive squad of Warriors or a Praetorian unit an invulnerable save. He's amazing.
I just finished it and honestly they need their own "Chad" - Tier.
A friend of mine just recently got me into Warhammer 40K minis and I've been deep-diving into the lore head-first. After listening to the story of the Silent King I really REALLY want to paint one now. The Necrons are hands down my favorite faction in the whole game.
What a great day. Adeptus Ridiculous AND Dicecheck upload!!
As a guy who just bought a buncha Necron models and is in the process of painting them... Thanks! Been looking forward to this a lot!
I know that almost no one plays them, but it would be really cool if you guys did a Grey Knights tier list.
One of the things to remember about the Necron HQ's is that they have a lot of shenanigans where you get to take HQ units without those HQ units taking up HQ slots. In the case of Crypteks (Xmancers), you can FURTHER take the Murderbuckets without taking up Elite slots. What this means is that some of these HQ units Bricky talked about basically become the functional equivalent of Sergeants in a Space Marine army. You stick them wherever you want them and with whomever you want them to babysit. For example, while you may be running a CCB, you can also take a Chronomancer to stick in your blob of Lychguard and do some insane shit.
Necron HQs are where all the strategy is at.
quick one on orikan as his ability is not identical to the chronomancer standard, as standard is forced to units, orikan is not, so you can give that to the other dynastic agents, to szarek, to the nightbringer and so on where a standard one cannot, yes situational but still a nightbringer re-rolling charges for slightly more than a chrono i like him
Royal warden even has that dinasty specific Mephrit relic that improves his gun , the conduit of stars. From 30" Rapid Fire 2 S5 AP-2 2 damage to 36" Rapid Fire 3 S6 AP-2 2 damage.
Yeah, 36 inches Rapid Fire 3 . Also a bump to Strength 6 :P
Gonna be honest, I felt a little cheated when I learned the mephrit unique relic could only be taken on the royal warden, and it was also that shitty.
Royal Warden is S tier for sure. Solid cheap unit that helps you spread around Command Protocols. It's nearly an auto-include for Necrons.
39 even
@@joshwalton25 no, but more reasons than you’d think.
Firstly. HQ slots for necrons are super competitive. You’re normally only gonna have the points for a battalion or two specialist detachments. Only 3-4 HQs plus a spare cryptek. You need all of those slots for something else. One has to be an overlord, one has to be some kind of cryptek to get another cryptek, and that leaves one flex slot. There are a lot of characters which want to compete for that slot. A lord to have the veil of darkness and re roll ones? That would get you a cheaper, more versatile royal warden, but only once per game. Or one of the many, many other appealing choices.
Next, you have a command protocol to do that. Meaning he’ll have a turn in which he’s mostly useless, on top of the first turn where he’s mostly useless.
Also, he won’t be useful every matchup. He could simply be out of position. Because his ability happens in the command phase, you need to have him in range in advance, which against certain armies is just impossible. Or maybe you’re playing an army which just won’t be charging you.
Lastly, he has no melee potential, at all. Which, for a 75 point noble character, hurts badly. Even a lord is better in melee. He’s not at all a bad unit but there’s just too many better options.
@@nathanieleck1023 I think being able to give a big blob of Warriors FB-Shoot-Charge is stronger than Re-rolling 1's to shoot. My usual HQ lineup is a Command Barge w/orb and maybe a war scythe, Chronomancer, Warden w/ Veil of Darkness, and if I'm feeling spicy and don't want/need the points elsewhere, a Szeras. I've never felt the urge to run anything besides a Battalion, but running 2 detachments with 5-6 HQ choices (depending on how many free cryptek slots you get) seems excessive.
Yes, the Warden is objectively worse in melee because of it's lack of AP, but that isn't where you want it to be anyway. Since it's your Veil user, it shouldn't end up in the wrong position very often. Ideally he's Veiling in behind 2x20 Warriors, or 20 Warriors and some Lychguard/Skorpekh Destroyers. Warriors are already one of your best units, and the Warden makes them slap even harder once your opponent almost inevitably gets into melee with them.
Edit: Beside Imotek and Szeras, the named Lords aren't that good. The Command Barge is much better then either the Lord or Overlord. So unless you're strapped for points or playing Imotek's Dynasty, there's no reason to not take a second Barge if you really want more My Will Be Done instances. Outside specific match-ups, a Chronomancer and/or Szeras is all you need, the other ones are more niche picks.
Finally, the protocol you're referring to allows you to shoot at -1 to hit in a turn where you fell back. Obviously that's no where near as good as the Warden's ability, and I'd also say it's the weakest of the six Protocols.
the use of these graphics on the side really makes it nice and understandable for newer players too. I must say one of the or THE best Necron Tier list on youtube (my opinion). Liked and subscribed
Always happy to see my spooky metal skellingtons get love
Subbed on the sole basis of the absolute fangirling over The Silent King. Great vid
Bricky is really well spoken, makes it easy to listen to and follow along with. Thanks! :D
He’s such a dapper young man
Thank you for putting this out! I’m just learning the game and this points me to units that I need to get to fill out my army to get me going. Well done!
This has been massively helpful. started putting together a necron army from having a break from the hobby. since Jan I have got loads painted and now looking to see what's next on my shopping list, THANKS!
The editor knows what is up. The void dragon model is what got me collecting necrons.
Awesome work guys keep it up. Cant wait for more of these
The editing in this is soooo gooood
Give us this day our daily Bricky
I love these tier lists. About to start and Ork vs. Necron campaign with a buddy. I am so happy my friend's Necrons are awesome overall.
I am just getting into Warhammer and immedeadly fell in love with Necrons because they are undead and I love undead, and hearing their lore made me love them even more. And this was very informative. Thanks a lot!
Great list and great points, appreciate the love for plasmancer, royal warden and tomb blades, very underestimated units imo!
Overlord down to B-tier, command barge up to S-tier, immortals to S-tier, nightscythe A-tier and traveler to A-tier Royal warden to A-tier. Those are my suggested adjustments:D
Nicely done here... good tier list. I would argue a bit higher on the Royal Warden but overall felt like this was pretty spot on. GW really did this codex right. Been pretty solid playing these guys.
I love my skeleton robot bois. I'm really holding out hope that 9th edition has good things in store for Tyranids, too.
I watch all of your videos to the end, even your 4 hour bat reps, even videos that don't interest me a ton, like a necron tier list. But I watch them through to the end because I love your new channel and I'm just here to help out your algorithm
Legit just recently found Bricky during my time getting back into warhammer. Good stuff.
I think you're being a bit too generous with some of them. Deathmarks are H1 D1, very unreliable character killers (good for some secondaries though), not that great. Atm the void dragon is leaning towards B imho. Sure, if the meta gets vehicle intensive then he'll be solid, otherwise...he's certainly alright, but not A tier. Sill, loved the video, keep it up guys! I love to see general memery and the occasional swear in a WH40K channel :D
The death marks are good at killing characters bc of the mortal wounds from the sniper rule. There’s a Necron strat where 6s to wound count as an additional mortal wound. So 2 MWs per 6 to wound. You’re fishing for 6s, but if you roll 2-3 you’re killing most support characters in the game (like Ravenwing apothecaries, ancients, painboys etc).
Orikan's 'Master Chronomancer' is NECRONS keyword, not DYNASTY keyword. He can effect ALL Necron units. It gives ALL Necron units a 5++. This means that you can give Triarch or a C'tan a re-roll to their charge. You should be running Orikan every time you run any number of Warriors, Triarch, and C'tan. He's easily S-tier.
I'd love to get an admech or grey knight tier list. unfortunately dont think anyone on the team runs either :/ also guess the admech one would become irrelevant pretty soon once that codex hits
This video is what put me over the edge on necrons being my first army
Something not mentioned when talking about the Catacomb Command Barge: the footprint of the model. Makes your Auras bigger. Awesome.
This was really helpful. Just decided to return to the 40k tabletop after an 18 year hiatus (give or take ). Back then Necrons weren't all that interesting to me, but loving the lore that's come out since and the new units are awesome, so decided to start collecting them.This video has been pretty good for planning what to get in the future...
I like these videos, it gives me a good perspective of other armies.
There is a difference between orikan and a regular chrominance. Orikan can put the reroll charge AND INVUL on ANYTHING as opposed to the chronomancer who can only do on units with keyword. Hello rerollcharge c’tan...
I love these tier lists hell yes
Fitting stumbling into this video, I had a recent resurgent in interest getting into 40k and Necrons been up there as a good candidate for my first army.
The Necron Codex set the bar for other codexes if you ask me. Most the units are somewhere between good to great, not much is just leagues ahead of everything else save the Silent King and they have a ton of variety. You can make a destroyer list, a Canoptek list, a core list, a triarchy list, and anything in between and all of it will be at least good. Maybe some are not competitive but they are all good.
Crypteks are really funky tier wise because you can spec them out so much. They aren’t super expensive, you can double them up with dynastic advisors, they can be protected with cryptothralls you bring on through bound creations, and the cryptek arkanas are flexible. These all cost points but they get to flex a lot of unit requirements in a detachment versus spending CP for another detachment.
Illuminor Szeras having double rites of reanimation is also insane. He can put d3 warriors on the field or 1 of any other core unit back on the field 2 times per turn. He’s 160 points but if he lives for 3 turns even without the augmentations he can pay back 120 of it easy.
This came at a perfect time. I was thinking about starting to collect a new army and I already had some necrons from the Indomitus box so they were one of the armies I was thinking about.
My heart broke with Trazyn's ranking haha.
Trust me , he was my first necron HQ and I thought in the lore he is so cool, but he honestly sucks so hard
Tomb blades and the fuckstalker are priority targets, every time. The auto wound strat on the doomstalker is INSANE
Also, the royal wardens ability allows him to completely control the flow of combat when infantry are involved. Seriously scary when used well.
Techno-Oracular Targeting is for only 1 hit, if someone is using it for all the hits that is very wrong.
Also that auto-wound strat can be used by any necron unit if that matters, can be used in melee or shooting. Make that one necron warrior blow count lol
Resident Necron player here. If you are watching this video because you are interested in starting the faction or starting competitively take what he says with a grain of salt. A lot of the unit placings are way higher or way lower than they deserve to be. Lokhust Lord was put in C tier and they cited low damage, however with a warscythe and either Voidreaper or Blood Scythe relic has the highest PPW out of any of the HQs making him an absolute beast of a duelist. The plasmancer has decent mortal wound output, but is very squishy and when choosing HQs it is typically one of the worst choices due to the utility and overall value of the other options. On top of that the C'tan shards have so much more output if you want a unit dedicated to putting out mortal wounds. Deathmarks are by no means an A tier option because despite having decent output and tankiness you really have to build a list around using them. Point is don't look at this list as your ultimate guide to the faction and do the math yourself to see what options are best.
There I was just looking for Warhammer advice when suddenly a wild Bricky appears
I started playing this game about 8-9 months ago (at the time of writing), made a deal with a friend to split on a Tau-Space Marine box, but it was out of stock, so I reluctantly settled for Necrons. I stumbled into an absolute gem of an army. I wouldn't trade my undead space Egyptians for the world.
Peak performance is just 20 warriors and a horde of ants led by the silent king
Overall great, Bricky nailed it out of the park with the tierlist and the little plus and cons at the side.
But Lokhust Lord is A, fight me.
Thank you for spreading the wisdom of the Necrons
Bricky when asked how many armies he has a year ago:
"Too many. Custodes, Guard and Sisters of Battle, seriously I need to stop"
Now:
"I added Necrons and got some Space Marines as well....."
The nightcyth you showed in the corner was sweet !
I'm so glad they buffed Lychguard for this codex, can't wait to get back into the hobby when I can~
I wish you made more of these.
This editor... *chef's kiss*
Alright, hear me out. Orikan ignores invulns and does d3 damage.
He's got like an 8% chance to murder any Drukhari character outright *and* he has a Fights First rule. Also Empowering *by* round three is a cumulative 48% chance, it's not as bad as it's made out to be. If he's empowered he's the best character assassin 110 points can buy.
ASIDE FROM THAT: He's still a Chrono and Chronos are definitely A or S tier. If you're going to take a Chrono anyway and you got 30 points lying around, there's worse things to spend them on than taking Orikan. I say he's probably B tier.
Watching him drop the next unit up into the tierlist each time is funny. Also love this man great list! Let's go Necrons!
Edit: it got fixed after the Technomancer. Thank you!
Watched this after accidentally starting a Necrons army. Kinda excited!
Thanks for the vid, agree with majority of your placements.
For me the cron codex needed at least 6 months of play testing to redo so many things that don’t gel. It should have been great but it misses on so many levels.
I'm just waiting for a custodian tier list
Dude same. I want my 10 minutes of tier list.
@@filwilliamson9149 5 minutes if their not including forgeworld
@@Colton_T If we include sisters of silence and forgeworld I bet we can hit 12 minutes.
@@filwilliamson9149 hopefully, sadly venatari aren’t being sold anymore
@@Colton_T Wait they aren’t? Fuck. I was gonna buy some Venatari.
When your whole ass army is in either A or S tier by accident because you don't know what you're doing yet 😎
"Hey man, I got these cool Space Marines in this thing called an Indomitus box, but also these weird robots I don't care about. Wanna go halves?"
@@christopherjohansson9935 did this with my buddy. He still says had he known he woukd of started a necron army and gave me units for my wolves. Now he just won't talk to me at all XD
I’m so ready for the Tau tier list
Thanks for the tiers list
Great video! When are you getting a bat rep up with a full S Tier necron army?
Hello! New guy in the hobby, got the Recruit ed. and I loved the model of the Chronomancer. Now i have one more reason to get one :D Cheers!
Great list, I’m sad about tesseract vault because I know you’re right. Tbh loving the new monolith though had had a dream of a monolith to the left, tes vault to the right, and stuck in the middle with the silent king
There's always Apocalypse.
I bought my first warhammer minis. Necron warriors. I love the idea of necrons and you guys say to go with what you think is cool. If I get armies together I wish I could play with bricky. Question for the Crew if you happen to read this what is your opinion on Kamoteph the crooked, the special release? also if I'm going necrons would you recommend that I get the indomitus box set?
Thus was great you guys should do.kore of these
You can tell they had fun with this video just by the pros and cons lists
Can't wait to see how the T'au rules change in 9th codex.
While I understand the issues with the Obelisk, did you check the ability "Hovering Sentinel" it gained? Assault 24 at S8 and 2 damage is nothing to shake a staff of light at. With its' impressive durability (for Necrons) I might say conditionally useful, combined with 1CP to ignore cover I can see this thing annihilating infantry or possibly a vehicle through weight of fire
As a new player this is incredibly helpful thank you so much
Cool list. Only thing I disagree with is deceiver, he should be S tier because of grand illusion. It's a disgusting ability - it had mad synergy with the night scythe + the strat to take units from your SR and place them in front of the scythe after it lands
A Necron tier list for the Necrontyr!
My ophidoan destroyers with the plasmacyte buff only needed the 2 with the hyperplasia reap blade to do all there attacks and still over killed a full squad of terminators
I thought TSK was okay at first, then I realised he was a Dynastic Agent, and whew lad definitely sss tier!
Would love to see a space marine tier list :)
Difference between the Chronomancer and Master Chronomancer ability is the regular effects units with DYNASTY the master version effects all NECRONS. Just a little more flexibility to be able to target anything versus only dynastic units.
It's still not great, but that is the difference.
Did u forget about the alternative weapon for the locust destroyer? It’s basically a reverse of the other weapon
dont know if someone point this out, but you put the images fro the deathmarks in A when talking about the immortals, anbd the immortals picture in B when talking about the deathmarks
also im looking for suggestions for a 50 power (yes, power, not points) list that I can use in my local group....any ideas?
What's really fun is that a lot of S tier unit in this review are really acessible and low budget if you find deals for the Necrons Indomitus side :)
I see Briky, I smash that like button!
Very well done. Do blood angels next!
Awesome video. Bump for the algorithm!
Obelisk is F Tier AF, Anrakyr is amazing with big blobs of Core Infantry, Psychomancer is S Tier depending on the matchup (true Fight Last or deny ObSec? Hell yes), Doom Scythe is A Tier (especially if you get first turn)
Vault is debatable but I'd rank it at least B for 30W, 4++, 3 Powers + random Power w/ Strat, +1 on Powers making Time's Arrow pop 5W Characters on a 4+, and overall absolutely disgusting damage output
Best use for the Reanimator is that it can do the Necron specific action/secondary objective. No one cares about its shooting and the reanimation beam is during the command phase. You sit one on a close midfield objective and spam the action every round for an easy 5pts or until you force the enemy to waste shots on it to kill it. Which is shots not spent on something else more important.
Orikan can give c'tan shards and any dynastic agent (silent king and other HQs) re-roll charge buff. That is the differance!
Is that an official Nightscythe model? Did GW just flip the croissant wings around?
God damn.
There are so many a's in this video you'd think bricky was canadian
When the hexmark got announced I thought considering he's a deathmarks his weapons would do MWs on 6s and they would be D3 shots as every enmitic weapon up to then had been 2d3/3d3. Was so disappointed to finally see his stats. Only way I can see him being back on table is if the armies with squishy troops actually want to take those troops more often (Tau, Guard for example. Though to be fair since guardsman are so cheap he would have to kill a lot of dudes)
The Lord is interesting in a silent king list cause the lord's will rerolls 1s to hit. Silent king can give out my will be done. So do both to a teleporting squad of reaper warriors and watch an enemy squad melt.
i wanna get into WH40k and my first army is gunna be Necrons but i want a Melee focused Necron army, what should i be lookin for?
Quick question, but...why (in the picture of the night scythe) are the night scythe’s wings on backwards?