Indigo | Act I
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- Me & Varnell are back! This time we visit to RM's Indigo album.
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I had to split this up because I got to be a guest speaker on a panel at Kcon. Next part will be uploaded very soon here!
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RM was so nervous contacting Erykah to invite her on a feature, he wrote a whole essay to her explaining the song and why he wants her on it haha
The way he talked about it was so adorable lol. No wonder Erika still chats with him to this day.
She was supposed to do live w RM on NPR Tiny Desk concert, but could not make it.
@@erume5776 he’s lucky he got to write a letter lol. In person her eye contact is so strong , she makes every man nervous 😂😂😂
@@SleepDeezshes been so sweet in every video she filmed for namjoon, she is amazing
And the fact she perfectly understood him and his approach and his vision and lent her voice to his track is incredible
"they dont have a cartoon" the tinytans and bt21 animations are feeling so disrespected rn
😂
Varnell with bt21 plushies soon 😅
And the 7 Fates Chakho is side eyeing him as well!
omgg hi Corvid!! good to see u here!
@@TheSnoozeUntold we have to stop meeting like this
Varnell saying INDIGO is an “outdoorsy” album is such a Namjoon (RM) thing. There’s a term for that.
“Namjooning: the act of living as Kim Namjoon. This includes: taking walks through parks, admiring nature, hanging out with crabs, and having fun with friends.”
Now you know. 😜🥰
Was thinking of commenting this!
I feel like true artist understand each other...like we share a common language...even through different language barriers 🤷🏾♂👍🏾
@@VarnellHillYep Varnell l agree with what you said..... like Jimin say you nice keep going.( Jimin another BTS member)
I went out to the beach this morning (practically living near it) and saw 2 little crabs and I just stared cutely and grinning and muttering to myself "Namjoonie" 😭 they're everywhere! 💜
@@AJP.OT7same 😁🤭so glad it was mentioned this way!!!
Varnell is caught in the purple wave - he’s gonna be at the concert, army b in the air, crying when Jin says “AMIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII” - he’s already talking about Joon like that’s his best friend, classic ARMY behavior
Man avoided all the get in line comments tho. 😅
Him and my husband need a support group. The way my husband is cought up with Hobi, Suga and Jk is amazing
I gave thumbs down to this comment because I felt like I had too...lololol...No purple wave my way (I might need a lifesaver 🤪🤭shhhh lol)
@Wakilonzo teach me your ways! Been trying to get my hubster interested but its a no go😂.
@@VarnellHill denial is the first step to admitting you have a problem - so I guess we’re both right 🤣🫶💜
I died laughing when he thought Change had finished. Also, I am not missing out on the fact that he keeps talking about this being an outdoorsy album and the main track of the album is literally called 'wildflower'.
@@shipit4595 my favorite part lol he had to eat his own thoughts so fast when Wale came back with extra bars and the back n forth with RM
@@SleepDeez yep yep lol the best part! =0]
Calling each of RM’s eras an “art gallery” is such a beautiful depiction of the way he makes his music I love that sm
gave me shivers, it was a perfect description!!
It was especially cool that he brought that up during an Indigo reaction since a lot of the concept behind this album as well as the promotions and the album artwork was based around mixed media art. Even the photobook was full of art RM helped create himself and he did a promo where he had indigo ink on his body and where he did a mini art gallery where each song was represented by an art piece. And of course when he performed some of the songs in a museum. It's fitting.
@ZariDV so true! man now I miss Indigo era AND namjoon 😭
oh yes
I agree 100%, it is a spot on description and RM would be over the moon to hear his music described like that. I loved how he also kept saying it's outdoorsy music, and music for outside since RM also loves being outside!
"Yo! This is Grammy-worthy!" .... [Ahem....] *removes glasses and sets them down* . . . EXACTLY!!!!!
WE👏ARE👏FCKING👏TIRED👏
like BTS are THE MOST STREAMED ON SPOTIFY BUT THEY'RE STILL UNDERRATED AF CAUSE PEOPLE ARE TOO CLOSE MINDED TO TRY NEW, GOOD MUSIC
I love when SUGA replays: I heard that grammys is some local s...
Like when it comes to music and what the Grammy's are actually supposed to represent, Namjoon is definitely a Grammy worthy artist. But these are dark times we live in.
@@himaririku9254 Borahae!
@himaririku9254 😂😂😂😂😂
The way that Indigo has Varnell out here Namjooning in his mind. He doesn’t even realise how perfect his reaction has been so far!
I was thinking exactly the same! All his nature references are so on point! 💜💜💜
😮 he truly is Namjooning in his mind.
@@himaririku9254Borahae!
Tablo is Korean but has a Masters in English and creative writing from Stanford, where his thesis advisor was author Tobias Wolff. He was put through hell in the Korean press for that because some ass didn't believe he had really gone to school in the US, much less at an elite school like Stanford, and he got dragged to the point he basically had to withraw from Korean society for a while. His group Epik High were literally the inspiration for the rap line when they were kids to become rappers, so I love that he has bonded with them. He told a hilarious story when he was on tour last year about how RM had called him at 3 am local time to ask him to be on this track.
😮😮😮 Thanks for this background.
if I remember correctly, didn't tablo have a new story for every show? I just loved it when a new video dropped on the tl /gen
The sad part was the “ass” that spread the whole thing was his own cousin! Jealous because Tablo was so successful and talented. He knew the truth but spread rumours just to hurt his cousin. 😢(there’s a whole article about what happened titled “The Persecution of Daniel Lee”.)
@@iroco0494The podcast recounting what happened is incredible.
Tablo got double degrees from Stanford in an accelerated time for one degree. He was the OG S Korean Genius Rapper before RM. His cousin was spitting mad about how smart Tablo was, and then doubly jealous when he "threw away his degrees" to be a rapper and got famous on top of being smarter than him. If sour grapes were a person, it would be Tablo's cousin. He contributed to the horrible persecution that literally had Tablo having a mental breakdown and talking about doing himself in.
“…go to the park, look at some ducks… it sounds outdoorsy!” My man, we call that “Namjooning” 🌳🚲
I use this term all the time now!
being an army is 24/7 battle with the industry. it's a full time job, it's a lifestyle
@@erume5776 fr
Facts
For real. Almost every hour streaming BTS song and solo members become my first job and my real job just second job.
💯
Oh, friend! 🥺💜
About seven years ago, someone passed on to Wale that RM was a big fan who wanted to work with him someday. Wale, despite not knowing of RM or BTS (this was before BTS blew up) , said "Let's do it". The track was released on SoundCloud for free 7 years ago. That generous act made me a Wale fan to this day, and 'Change' is still on my playlist.
Change is such a great song.
RM was so inspired to write RPWP after Indigo that he actually changed BTS' whole timeline and pushed back his military service by like a year. I think that Indigo is very confessional. It feels like reading his journal. It's almost voyeuristic, especially on songs like Lonely. RPWP is more artistic for the sake of experimenting and being adventurous. So in a way, he literally did what he said in Yun. He was a human before he did some art.
it's the opposite - every album he ever made was confessional, but between the two - indigo is the curated art exhibition he carefully assembled over years by RM of BTS while RPWP is raw & unfiltered series of sketches by Kim Namjoon, that he worked on day & night just to give those feelings of his a shape in the world.
the difference is especially obvious when you see how he talks about indigo in RM 'Indigo' Album Magazine Film vs how he talks about RPWP in MMM(Mini & Moni Music) - RM.
he literally said indigo was him holding back his thoughts while rpwp is his more liberated thoughts album.
@@404gram Agreed, I mean reading voyeuristic and my 1st thoughts went to Nuts and Out of Love straight away. But even then voyeuristic doesn't feel like any way I would describe it...more like confessional. We've been invited it, we're not looking uninvited or without consent.
@@404gram he said that indigo is like his diaries in his twenties and he was exploring different genre. But during the Festa dinner he also admitted that he needed to find himself. I believe rpwp is that journey...after releasing indigo he was encouraged by san yawn to continue exploring instead of going to the military and so we got rpwp..a more raw version of his inner self at 30...after all that uncertainty and difficulty of the past 10 years as BTS leader ...he can truly express himself without worrying about how it will affect the group!
He did push his enlistment date back but not by a year. He was supposed to go at the same time Hobi did (Spring '23) and instead he went with the maknae in Fall '23.
EXACTLY ARMY! EXACTLY!😭rpwp is literally the thesis of Indigo in practice...god, I love Namjoon.🥲😭
No one is hiding them, unfortunately the US music industry kept pushing them down into kpop category and otherwise not picking them up on the radio or anything because people "don't understand what they're singing"... as if in the rest of the world PLENTY of people didn't listen to songs sang in english even if they don't speak the language
So true, suga was the best sold out rapper in the world 2023, he also sold out concerts stadiums but they put him in kpop category and never gave him the amount of beautiful accolades he deserves.
Re lyrics…have you SEEN the Pearl Jam memes with Eddie Vedder’s nonsense lyrics?! “epa wiporun rahh…nonu…” And as an early REM fan, same. Pre google, we were just left to guess. 😅 And oh yeah, all in english.
US music industry is stupid, you have to do the mind numbing press tours and 15 min set at iheart/jingle ball and maybe they'll see if they can work some spins into the daily radio rotation.
They're used to acts playing the game bc that used to be the only way to gain an audience. The English singles ended up working out but I really hated that they would be playing the US radio game and realizing it has nothing to do with artistic merit but is all money and favors...and they didn't need to do it, they were already the biggest act in the world.
Also they won't pay for play when it come's to USA Radio all the songs the USA population hears on their Radio stations is payed for illegally by the Music Label.
And as if songs not in English can't succeed in the US (hello, Despacito). 🙄
I get it, Americans (and I am one) see English as the lingua franca-- we don't see it as weird for other countries to consume things in English because to us it's the language EVERYONE "should" know anyway. (Don't @ me, there's a high degree of sarcasm in that last line). What the industry fails to acknowledge is that a) music is its own language, (one that BTS speaks very, very well) and b) listeners have a brain. If they REALLY like something, they can LOOK UP the lyrics.
The "not picking up on radio" is another story, though. Radio remains rife with payola, which Big Hit will not engage in. The US music industry is happy to use them when they know their name will get more eyeballs on their event, but actually let them succeed without getting a kickback from their success? Nah.
Just One Day is just magical. A BTS classic.
Strong! 💪🏼 😂
When it starts playing, suddenly everyone knows Korean 🤣
@@Xeverti For real. I am "Just One Day" Korean level fluent. haha
The Armypedia live version of just one day and no more dream is so so underrated and maybe not watched enough. Low key hip hop with harmonies - almost unplugged style
@@musicfav-kpoppiano6054Oh yesss whenever i wanna listen to just one day i always go to the armypedia ver
12:00 The start of ‘Yun’ the person speaking is actually the artist ‘Yun Hyong-keun’ (1928-2007) who’s RMs favourite artist. He wrote this song as if he was having a discussion with him. The starting lines are taken from his old interview.
The reason Forg_tful is like that is cuz he ‘forgot’ the ‘e’😂😂. I give you Namjoon humour 😅
This was on INDIGO ALBUM PHYSICAL COPY
"Record of RM: Indigo From the colors of nature, human, etc.
Use it
while taking a walk, a shower, drive, coffee-break, work, dance, read a book, when flowers bloom or fall.
the last archive of my twenties"
Varnell guessed it right
Yes, I love how he's feeling the nature side of Namjoon organically without knowing how strong a part of Namjoon this is. I can't wait for the day Varnell's out walking, by the lake/driving by the ocean and the word "Namjooning" comes to mind! Cuz it'll happen! 😉😂
I actually have a plan to tattoo “the last archive of my twenties” because it feels so meaningful, it hits so hard every single time I look at Indigo’s physical album
Loving when Sleep throws some BTS lore at Varnell and looks at the camera (ARMY) and Varnell looks so confused and it dawns on him how much he doesn't know.
BORAHAE
Not that collaboration that-shall-not-be-named drop though; I nearly spit out my water on that one!😮
yeaaaaah 😂
The rabbit hole...
“This whole album sounds like nature.” Darnell has no idea how great a compliment that is to our Namjoon.
J-Hope said he sent the track to Cole and even he was shocked with how many bars Cole sent back but Hobi was like I can’t cut any of this it’s all going in!!!! So the fact that j Cole had 32 bars was not even planned that was all his own initiative and Hobi OF COURSE kept it all in.
Also Paul Blanco said he got the DM on Insta from RM asking if he would feature he initially ignored it for like 8 hours because he had to work up the courage to open it… and then he waited like an hour to reply because he had to let it sink in first 😂
I think both of you are correct because he started working on RPWP right after Indigo. He told us he was working on new music and ARMY went what? But he said to us we have to remember that he'd been working on Indigo for like 3-4 years. He and Yoongi both say when they give the music to us, it's in the wind for them. That time has long since passed.
nods
@@marinal. Second nod
The Bts rapline deserves wayyyy more recognition fr! Their songs need to reach the right audience like you two!
So right, so right.😕 Love all SEVEN💜of my Bangtan Boys, but it gets frustrating when MOST of ARMY & the media (such as it is😏) seems to ignore the "hyung line" & ONLY shower the "maknae line" with love & attention. I'm a Jung Kook bias saying this, but it makes me a little mad (actually, a LOT😒) that RM, Suga, Jin & J Hope are pretty much treated like "step children" when it comes to love, attention & streaming numbers for the "hyung line".😕 Ironic thing IS, amongst THEMSELVES, there IS no distinction between the 2 lines.🥰GORGEOUS music from EVERYBODY!💜BTS LOVE & SUPPORT each another OT7💜, like Taehyung ASKED us to do a long time ago. I wish MORE ARMY would do the same.🥴
That just one day joke was on POINT!!
Love that you showed him Change. Such an underrated masterpiece.
Was also clapping at this genius move!
This whole journey was so lovely to see. It's like a whole docu/reality series. It's created with the confidence that the consumer will end up loving the product up because the creator sincerely believes in its quality. Thank you, Sleep.
@@MeL_LcoolJ YES! This is it right there! Very thoughtfully presented. 🙌🙌
RM actually has a song that’s called “do you.”
“Do You” is of my all-time favorites. Love the video too.
@@brandyking201LOVE Do You!!!
I really love that song the lyrics and the video 10 of a 10
Love this song! Also was thinking of commenting this lol
Literally had this in my comment again but took it out. Think I've given the link a couple times too, but will do it again just in case. Do You (Eng Subs) since the original doesn't have it and the lyrics are a must and pause when you need it goes fast: ruclips.net/video/rN0_2jyOgzg/видео.htmlsi=mYy_RtGyW3ib7i5T
I really like our new names... Lyric Mafia and Comment Squad 🤣🤣🤣🤣
embraced it with whole heart😂
We get a new name each day
@@hannanounou3153I'm on ARMY twt and it's so true 😂 "boracadet" "borahae b*tches" "lilac lieutenants" "thanos blooded mf-s" "streaming farm" "armchairs" "ratmys" etc. Most are from haters and the best thing is we proudly accept them and start using them ourselves so it's no longer derogatory and that makes haters even more mad😂
Lol but @ Army to front or end of those 2 new names
@@everything_purple streaming farmm u must be coming from twitter
Guys even we get frustrated with the limited visibility of BTS.
PEOPLE CURSE US WHEN WE TRY TO HYPE OUR BOYS, WHEN WE STREAM AND WHEN WE BUY THEIR SONGS.
THEY DONT UNDERSTAND WHAT BTS IS AND WHAT THEY ARE ABOUT.
ARMYS ARE NOT BUNCH OF 12 YEAR OLDS. WE ARE PEOPLE FROM ALL AROUND THE WORLD WITH DIFFERENT TATSE, DIFFERENT COUNTRY, STATES AND WHAT NOT. Their songs have such deep meaning, they always tell us their stories.
Rap line's songs have great potential
They should be known to general population
But alas
The algorithm sucks
We really do understand your frustration
This is why Armys work hard to mke BTS visible
F... the algorithm ...
Exactly. I'm remember how much army did to try to get radio stations to play their music & BTS did a lot too tons of interviews, army would send gifts thanking dj's etc for having them on their show. We sadly learned the hard way how radio actually works, BTS were trying to figure it out too. It took us a lot of hard work & disappointments to find out yes there's an advantage to songs that are English but that's not even it the real issue comes down to money period. If your artists isn't gonna sign an American label who gets a large percentage from you & you're not gonna pay a fee for radio (I can't remember what they call it but it's a loophole to get around being called payola but that's what it is) then we're not gonna play it or when we do it's in the wee hours in the morning 1 or 2 times. Dynamite got promoted better because some of the western names attached to that song but it still got no where near not even close to the spins western artists get. People think but I heard it at the store Walmart, Target , etc but those "radios" aren't spins counted toward the charts. Billboard & radio (and now streaming services too) has a nice relationship they don't want people messing with their money. We've got new fans coming in that weren't here during those times to live thru it that are now getting a crash course on it all or being swept up in false information spread on twitter.
50:29 SUGA said that if you listen without prejudice, you’d really enjoy their music. Unfortunately, there’s so much prejudice against “k-pop” and BTS as a group…
Tablo is Canadian-Korean, went to Stanford-graduating with a simultaneously attained Bachelor's in English literature and a Master's in creative writing in 3 1/2 years. Dude has a 160 IQ. Hip hop was how he dealt with stress growing up. He and his group Epik High are BTS rap line favs/friends.
Remember the issue where no one believed he's from Stanford 😬
For Indigo, the featured and guest artists were BLOWN away that RM contacted them. He felt shy about reaching out. They were already in their feels that RM was on their own musical pedestals. Loved them more for being impressed with this young man who felt shy reaching out, and who himself felt they were on his musical pedestals as artists he admires. :)
"It was nothing like the Sia feature." *significant stare at camera*
ARMY: 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
Varnell: ❓
(You'll get there, bro.)
Varnell said my RM, aww how cute!! I think that RM is his bias and Suga is his bias wrecker. As Varnell tries to talk as though he has not decided it totally shows that he has become a baby Army!
Yoongi will be his bias soon just give it time 😂 Everyone knows Yoongi is the best
Yeah he got him a while back . I think definitely is his type of flow RM is his bias
@@Pshakessnah lol RM is the best y’all just in denial
he’s the leader/main rapper for a reason 😂
@@Pshakessshut up why are you hating on joon in ur every cmt
The fact that Varnell mentioned Nile Rodgers, when our JHope has a song with him!!!!!
thisssssss
What song?
@@rafaelsmith5737 Lock / Unlock on Hope on the Street vol. 2
@@rafaelsmith5737 "lock / unlock" from his new album HOPE ON THE STREET VOL1 😊
@@rafaelsmith5737 lock/unlock on HOTS
What you have you understand is that almost every feature on this album is HUGE. As big and epic as Erykah Badu is on the first track each featured artist is just as big in their own domain.
Exactly! He brought in legend after legend for this album!
People who rarely collab with other people, people who were already retired but they were all convinced by his message and his artistry
Exactly! I was about to comment this. I remember that when the tracklist was released I didn't recognize a lot of names from there, but some army on Twitter made a whole thread about all of them and I was impressed by the amount of icons he had in this album 🤯
It’s amazing how Varnell just gets it! Quick note, RM said to listen to this album while riding your bike along the river (I think I’m remembering that right?? Correct me if I’m wrong fellow ARMY), so yes, def an album he meant for you to listen to while “namjooning” (enjoying the outdoors/nature) 22:23
@@MinYayangi-fh3ns I’ve been waiting you guys to tell him about “namjooning” hahaha
Can’t be an RM bias without knowing about namjooning!
Record of RM: Indigo From the colors of nature, human, etc.
Use it
while taking a walk, a shower, drive, coffee-break, work, dance, read a book, when flowers bloom or fall.
the last archive of my twenties
@@SleepDeez what's so fun is Varnell gets it without getting it. "It's like an art show!" "It's an outdoor album!" People get the music without understanding the spoken language, the industry thinks we're dumb, but we are not. I'm also excited to hear his reaction to Youjeen's voice on Wild Flower.
I am so loving this Rabbit Hole journey. So invested in Vernell's path to becoming ARMY. I can see him now DEFENDING BTS when his American friends say "I can't stand them BTS guys." He gonna put up dukes like the rest of us. You get why we mad at the Grammy and now the Billboard with the stupid "KPOP" category. ARMY have to FIGHT for BTS in America. BTS refuse to do Payola to get the credit due. NO RADIO play for 99% of their discography.
BTS doesn’t pay to play which is another big factor
@@holk9052 Yes, I mentioned Payola which is what that is.
Hey, Varnell. RM rented Rolling Hall, a small venue to perform Indigo in. The whole concert is on YT. Before he and BTS became big, it was one of RM's dreams to be able to perform there one day.
I was thinking the same thing while watching this, that Varnell would like that concert
Joonie Rocking Out to Blanco's Verse with that Body Roll 🫠❤️🔥
I seriously envied the 200 people that won the lucky draw for that concert! 💜😘
@@tessaapostol4688I'm thankful we get to see him on screen.
CAUTION!!!
A long post ahead, but dedicated to Varnell, our dear denying but hell yeah ARMY....
And about media, well, you know, media simply doesn't want to recognize BTS and want to kinda cage them K-Pop which is upsetting cus they do soooooooo many genres but that's media play that BTS and ARMY usually, mostly have to fight.
Okay, to start off, Indigo is really nature-like as Varnell said, or better for his denial ARMY behavior, namjoon-ing. And Varnell, let me tell you, this album has a mix of genres, said by RM himself. He wished to experiment with a lot many genres and so he..did....😁Let's talk about the tracks
1. Yun [with Erykah Badu] - Backstory, RM was hella nervous to give this song to Erykah, so much so that he wrote a whole essay for her to explain the song. And let me tell you something about the title of the song which pretty much relates to the album as well - Yun Hyong-keun was a prominent Korean artist and one of favs of RM [he has many pieces of his art at his home as well]. He is known smearing effects of burnt umber and ultramarine blue paints on raw canvas or linen, which reveals a Korean sensibility of reflection and meditation. And that's inspires his album name 'Indigo' and his tribute to him with the name 'Yun'. If you look at the album cover, the art at the back is also one of his known paintings and one of RM's collection. [Your guy, is a complex yet simple artist, IYKYK]. The voice you heard at the start and end was Mr. Yun and the line 'True beauty is true sadness' said by him. So that's about first track.
Fun fact, that painting is one of his last paintings before he finally found his signature style as I said above. So, in a way, Joon wanted to let people know he might not have found his signature style yet, but has evolved since mono [you'd know this ref when Sleep plays mono for you].
2. Still Life [with Anderson Paak] - I understand you Varnell for that one extra verse, but that's how it simply went but for a word, Paak and BTS are actually good friends... It's just how the song went. As for the song, I will you a ref that RM himself said in his album interview, ''An artist painted a flower 100 years ago, that flower has already withered a long time ago, but in that painting it is still alive.'' Basically, giving a living object an eternal life. He as RM of BTS is in pedestal of still life gallery, who is being watched and needs to be aware. But he doesn't wanna stop himself from growing or evolving. ''A still life that doesn't stop.'' words by him to explain the song. It actually is a complex topic mixed with upbeat music [a very common thing BTS and RM often does]. If you watch the M/V, you'd realise more about it.
3. All day [with Tablo] - Tablo and Epik High in general goes a long way back for BTS, in general. Life sucks but let's chin up - RM said about this song. He wanted to create something of his own and wanted to get an persuasive voice for it, hence Tablo. He said yes to collaborate with RM without even listening to the song 😂. Kinda a social upbeat song as said. Another trivia - They gave a shout-out to each other. RM at the end says - ''We know we fly all day'' ref to one of Epik High's song ''Fly''. And tablo at the end of his verse, with megaphone effect [I hope I'm right] said, ''We got dynamite in our DNA'' ref to Dynamite and DNA, two of many hit songs of BTS.
RM said for tracks 1-3, he wanted to first create an impression with Erykah Badu, set the mood with Paak and then a tonal set of meaning 'whatever it is , we'll see' with Tablo. He said that he wanted to make people believe that Oh he is doing what he is good at. But then comes the dynamic curve and the 4th song enters, a soft folk vocal song.
4. Forg_tful [with Kim Sawol] - This track came to RM probably the first, before the album even came up to the planning stage. And he wanted Sawol-ssi to be a part of it. [This album has been worked upon for 4-6 years]. RM says this is a complete folk song. Kim Sawol is well known for folk music. John Eun, one of writers, co-prod of this song, also one of RM's closest friend, said he asked Sawol-ssi to sing the demo and after checking the key, she sung that demo and that became the song itself. This was in 2019, when RM was 26, and he couldn't simply re-record that vibe 3 years later when the album was released when he was 29. That organic feel he felt the first time, he said, he couldn't re-create that no matter what and simply put to that. There even is a ref to his age in the song where it is said about 26 but the song itself came out when he was 29. Also, the last part of na na na naa naa... YK that fades out.. You can hear some rustle of clothes and winds which according to John was cus he secretly recorded it outside as they were walking with a portable condenser mic. Also, the song was made cus RM has been told of how he is forgetful of many things. And that missing 'e' is an embodiment of that forgetfulness. Also, how we still call the song ''forgetful'' even though it misses the sounding 'e'. That's Brain RM Varnell... This song also depicts a certain longing for certain things which are not always flashy and larger than life but something you experience with nature.
5. Closer [with Paul Blanco, Mahalia] - The prod of this song, duo HONNE, has worked with RM before as well [once you hear mono]. They sent him this beat with Mahalia's voice and he simply loved it. Paul Blanco is one of RM's fav Korean R&B vocalist. And he actually got him on the song with a DM😁. This music acc to RM is, urban-style lounge music. The theme - ohhhh... Basically, we get a moment where we wish to get closer, more specific in relations, but know that love might not be possible or simply we can't be together. Hence the last line, ''Stay where you are'' and Mahalia line as well, ''If I could be under your skin closer than we've ever been'', shows a desperation but reality check if love is not what it is for us, let's just stay where we are.
When the ACT II comes, I might drop a long essay again. Till then, I hope this helped. And thank you Sleep, thank you for doing what you do. And Varnell, ARMY loves you. And we know you're soon a part of us. Borahae
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Loved this😊 it was very informative
Great job!
Very informative and interesting! Thanks. 😊
THIS!! Varnell should meditate on this, cause RM's brain is like a vast and deep ocean, you can get lost in it, but discovering new things each time.. you'll be sat and just admire
RM is a veteran! He was battling older rappers in the underground scene as Runch Randa. He's a legend in that scene
Varnell NAILING the intention of the album without even seeing the album cover or any of RM's interviews. RM literally put "Listen to this while talking a walk, driving, taking a bath, having coffee..." That's the mark of a true artist 💜
“They don’t got any cartoon” me staring at my Koya Funkopop like ??
Me playing BTS Island while watching this video 👀😂
😂😂😂
Their cartoon with Stay Alive (sorry I forgot the name of it) lol
BU
Lol yeah I'm like wearing bracelets
I hope Namjoon gets shown these, too, and shares them with rapline. I bet they’d love to listen to people who really get and appreciate their music like this
Yesssss please!!! I hope the rapline sees these, coming from producers and artists as them that knows their sh*t.., 💜
Varnell saying “outdoorsy “ is what we call NAMJOONING 🔥💜
Maybe someone already mentioned this but..Varnell, J Cole wasn't necessarily supposed to have 32 on "On The Street" with JHope. Hobi had a whole other verse already written for himself. J Cole sent his bars in but it was expected JHope would take what he felt fit the track. However, Hobi was so in awe of working with his #1 muse (his words) and he literally couldn't believe J Cole sent him 32. He felt it would be disrespectful to cut any and he has a different version of the song without J Cole that has Jhope's original second verse & he put it on his album he released the next year.
Namjoon on the other hand had already been working for years with people he'd looked up to for so long and was a little more comfortable doing exactly what he envisioned for the track. Anderson would have 200% done another verse or 2 or whatever he was asked to contribute because he adores and respects all of BTS members so much he bragged he was ARMY way before he even met any of them. You might already know but Anderson is of both African American and Korean heritage & his (recently ex-)wife is Korean so may have helped organically click in a way(?) BTS were huge fans of his, but especially Silk Sonic at the time they first met. SUGA even visited Anderson in the US on his own, when trying to find inner answers and inspiration while making his project DDAY. They consider him a good friend.
You're absolutely correct about "they" have been hiding BTS' from the algorithms for years. Btw, Wale & RM worked on a second song but it got cut short from busy schedules and they never finished. Wale still every now and again shouts out RM to call him anytime & he'd love to do more. Members always pick great collaborators for solo work, imo.
OT7 BTS collabs are hit or miss, imo. They collabed with Nicki Minaj, for example, and it just felt like it was an after thought and she was stuck in an alternate version of one of their hits..just for sake if being there. My opinion, but many share it. I think it was maybe because they didn't expect to get her (?) just conjecture on my part but collabing with huge Western artists at that point wasn't a normality yet. I like her verse alright and she was glad to do it, even was her suggestion to add Korean translations of her English bars into the artistic editing of her bit in the MV. She was very respectful.
Anyways, rambling and probably won't see this anyways😂
Wow I didnt know this...thanks 🙌
@@VarnellHill 💜
Gotta give you props Sleep, really. To be able to cater this experience for Varnell means you know KNOW their whole discography. If anyone is gonna showcase them to other people, I am happy it is you. With your musical expertise and your appreciation for their discography. Thanks, Sleep. 💜
This x100000
Speaking of "Change", there's still so many ARMY didn't know this song exists & so does the song "Champion" Remix from Fall Out Boy feat RM. The story of that collaboration is unique, too.
The term “kpop” actually more refers to the industry than any specific musical genre, so basically any artist in Korea that is associated with the idol industry (or even when they’re not at all) gets put under the kpop label, and once you’re there you’re pretty much stuck. Interestingly though, RM has said that if he is going to be labelled as kpop then he will embrace it because he refuses to be ashamed of where he comes from. BTS may be global artists now, but the international media will always downplay their success and use pigeonholing to keep them from the recognition they deserve, not just because of where they’re from, but also because BTS did not cheat their way to the top. They didn’t need industry support, and for that the industry sees them as a threat to their control of who gets to win and who doesn’t.
I’m very curious to how it works with the algorithm for discovery. I consider RM to be in the class of emcees I enjoy.. Kendrick, J Cole, Wale, but the algorithm would never drop one of his solo singles into my stratosphere. That metadata part needs to be figured out bc more people should be able to discover his songs organically. Someone out there should be like, “Whoa this song I saved to my playlist is by one of the guys from BTS?! I had no clue!”
@@SleepDeez exactly, and luckily ARMYs are starting to make some of that happen just through requesting music reactors/content creators to give BTS a go, but in reality despite their global success it is very difficult for people to just stumble upon them, I guess partly because kpop is a very polarising topic.
@@SleepDeez On youtube the algorithm is heavily english biased, and they will not show you non-english content unless you go searching for it. Except occasionally on the trending lists, which is part of why army works so hard to make sure both the teaser and the songs hit the trending lists, because that's one of the few times that the algorithm actually serves up non-english content to primarily english language viewers. There's a British channel called "Korean Englishman" and they actually fought with youtube to make them stop suppressing non-english comments on their channel, because even though they are based in England their primary viewership is based in Korea, but youtube kept putting all of the english language comments first, then uses the alphabet but not english language comments, and then the asian language comments which was hampering their ability to interact with the majority of their viewers.
@SleepDeez you are so right!!! That is some heady shyt to put your mind to...I do love how amazing it feels to find something by friends sharing though. Music binds 🫰
14:38
“Just do you, don’t worry abt nothin else”
Naaaahhhhh booyyyy, if you don’t show him at least “Do you” from RM’s first mixtape I’m gonna lose it….this man Varnell I swear to god, what a pre-watcher 😂
Trueeeeeee!!! Can't wait
I love RPWP but Indigo is my baby. I love that album so much. I find peace in listening to it. It's a masterpiece.
YESSS
One thing I really love about Namjoon as an artist that truly differentiates him from the other Rap Line (they each have their own forte) is his Artistic Versatility. You can trust him to push boundaries and experiment with the fusion of genres and creative minds. Indigo is a masterpiece that's very difficult to pull off cause how the hell did he incorporate different artists in each track, inviting them into this speaker stage he set up and weaving them all into his fresh-from-heart tapestry? All that to archive the story and thoughts of his twenties. Mad genius artist he is!
49:39 Varnell and Sleep knows it. Yep. Armys have always been fighting for this. The algorithm has always been against BTS for some reason. It’s insane. And it’s why we are also very protective of the boys which in turn, we try to keep on pushing for their music in all spaces when we can. Because their music deserves to be heard everywhere. It’s what they also wish for. Their music is amazing.
“This is Grammy worthy “
Thank you so much for appreciating this work Namjoon will definitely be happy
"Biggest Fan" ... Get in line, Varnell. It's about 10 million deep, babe. 🙃
More like 100 million!
Starting with JK 😅😅😅😅
Varnell really know his shit. Like damnnnnn. when he described indigo is a song that you should listen to when you're at the park or smthng, I WAS LIKE WOWWWWW. Cuz RM did recommend army to listen to indigo when we take a walk, taking the bus etc basically when we go outside. Also the way he could guess what happen at the end of the song really giving me goosebumps 💜🤧 Cant wait for part 2!💜💜
Yes! Varnell is namjooning before knowing what namjooning is LOL
@@louloubumper8179 he is more purple blooded than most of us 🤣
These videos keep me going 😭
My country is going through the worst time ever, and I was waiting for your reaction videos for a little escape
My pleasure 🙏🏾 Hope things get better. Happy we can provide a little ray of light for you 💜💜
Praying for you & everyone affected 🫂🙏💜 Stay safe
That Si* line cracked me up. We pretend that didn’t happen.
WE GOT HIM FROM THE VERY FIRST SONG HERE LMAO VARNELL WE GOT U BRO, WE GOT UUUUU, THERE IS NO GOING BACK! WHEW
Change deserved a lot more recognition that it got, even when the song dropped people didn't appreciate it or the lyrics but real ones know how deep and impactful that song was.
THAT JUST ONE DAY ZOOM IN!! The look and smile!!
"Something's going on where they are just not letting people see this." 100% the RM/Wale collab I believe came out in 2017. The # of YT reactions I've seen, when they find out about this collab they say almost the same thing; "where was this song?" "why was this not on radio." Y'all are in the industry and y'all know the amt of BS that goes on behind the scenes just for American/Western artists. Now add language/looks/culture/ into the mix on top of a slew of other preconceived issues and that is just the tip of the iceberg for our guys to get the recognition/air time/radio play they rightly deserve. They are all so freakin' talented. I know Sleep is gradually letting you see this as to not overwhelm you LOL He KNOWS. I love that Sleep is always smiling to himself as your brain starts to let loose of what you think you know about them; and truly see them for what they can do. And while you talk a line; you recognize their talent. Keep doing your work Sleep :) Varnell it's ok to let go LOL
7:56 He is stressed lmao 15:59 That look tho😂🤣 19:39 No matter who you are, where are you from, your skin color, your gender identity, GET IN THE LINE 😂 20:42 We don't know either.. I would love more Anderson Paak too. 2.55 isn't enough.. I agree 27:49 Water Bombs 😆 28:56 That's so true.. I thought He was gonna choose Suga when he listened to D-2.. He danced fr lol.. 30:40 Dayuuuum his RM lmao.. 35:00 Yeah that's why I love it... I love Closer.. It's on my everyday playlist.. I love when you get excited lol "I knew It was coming" 49:40 It's so true.. I mean I think there are a lot of Armys who don't know this song exist.. I think this came back in 2017 yeah.. I was a baby Army.. This need more recognition fr 53:16 I didn't except that coming 🤣🤣 That's a bar right there 😂😂 "It was nothing like the Sia feature" spitting bars Damn
@SleepDeez you served great dinner, letting Varnell enjoying the music Indigo meal with all his professional reviews. Then finally you served the exquisite dessert to Varnell. Your art of presentation in this video is so magnificent! I love it 💜
52 year old Army from RI here. Love your videos and always so excited about the next one. They have the Tiny Tans which is pretty close to a cartoon. Love watching Varnell trying so hard not to love BTS, but we know we all know... LOL Keep up the great videos!!
At the half hour mark....Sleep bring that Conversion Meter & Emotional Soundboard back expeditiously!!!
Then talking about "MY RM".....sir stop 😂😂😑😑😑😑
we feel validated as hell every time someone new realizes the extent of the history of disrespect. like people think we're just defensive and trying to hype bts up but no it's really been like that!!! all these big name features and record-breaking album sales and it's crickets from the industry. just wild.
those moments where varnell was predicting what was gonna happen in the song were so good, that part where he's complaining about wale not getting more bars and then he's interrupted by more bars is GOLDDDDD lol. also the side eye from Sleep with those Just One Day and Sia references 💀
Side note about Tablo - he's Korean, he went to a boarding school in Canada when he was young and then went to Stanford, moved back to Korea, created Epik High, and Epik High were literally the first successful hip hop group in Korea EVER. Like the popular music scene in Korea had never had anything like Epik High before, period. They are the godfathers of Korean hip hop, and were huge inspirations to both RM and Yoongi pursuing music, so his feature on this album is a huge deal. Yoongi also produced a song for Epik's High "Sleepless In" album.
THANK YOU Sleep for showing "Change" to Varnell!! OMG I love that collab of RM with Wale, it is so underated and deserves recognition. Indigo is my favorite album of RM too..Big thanks 😊. Fun fact from RM's video magazine when he talked about his Indigo album, he was nervous to ask Erykah Badu to feature in his first track, Erykah had a video clip in RM's magazine where she said that she knew BTS before RM invited her to feature bec one of Erykah's children is a BTS Army and she did a little research about him before she said yes to RM. I was so pleased that Erykah agreed.
As for Anderson Paak, the reason he got involved with BTS was bec Anderson's son is also a BTS Army😊. And he and his son attended a BTS concert and had their pictures taken with the boys backstage. Also bec Anderson's wife is Korean.
I'm looking forward to Act 2 😊.
Hope your friend is enjoying his dive into BTS.
Just one day reference killed me😂
51:11 I think you really hit the point ! The k-hiphop community didn’t take it well when rm suga decided to become “idols” (even till date there is a demarcation there I feel) and the very tag of an idol also distanced the hiphop community from accessing their discography too (language barrier being an added layer as rap is about its lyrics too )
So you really hit the point when you said if it is the “k-pop” tag that kept these gems hidden
Suga is the real rapper in BTS
@@Pshakess Suga, RM and Hobi.
@@FunnyLobster Naw just Suga
Tablo from Epik High was just as hype for so many of us as Paak or Erykah (or more so). Just keep that in mind. They have a massive following over a long career and still going! Just cause you dont know them doesnt mean its a mistake to structure his album like this. There are so many korean artists featured and given their roses on Indigo so I think the entire album is a treat. Definitely checkout some Epik High some day. BTS is my #1 but they are my #2. Just sayin ;]
Can you imagine them going to the Epik High Concert next month in LA? If they did I would give them one of their lightsticks knowing they would have fun jumping around with Tablo, Mithra, & Tukutz (I bought so many of them for all my vehicles, family, & every Concert that doesn't have a lightstick)
I think that the album was structured the way it was because it was like a chronological narrative, like a diary, of his 20s. And yes, I agree that the Korean artists featured are also huge in Korea. Looking at it through a Korean lens, I'm guessing it makes sense to structure the album the way it is.
You are right Mr. Varnell. RM has many songs under his belt Grammy worthy yet as we all know the politics. Grammy will not give him or BTS any appropriate recognition and media always downplay. They thought they could play with them like many times they do with other artists but to their surprise they couldn't fathom that these artists has substance in their work and its way better than their considerate one's.
More secret videos?? Varnell is spoiling just like his bias.. I'm ready.
Ha! Caught that too! 😅💜
When you brought in og Change mv, I was ecstatic!! Older RM collabs are soooo underrrated man!
y'all killing me by cutting it off before change pt 2, but glad you showed him change w/wale. highly anticipating part 2. also, i love these videos & your podcast
I panicked…missed the part about part 2. 😭
Imagine a world without misoginy where men would listen when women praise good music. 😅 And a world without xenophobia too... The amount of field work ARMY has to do... So happy that you guys are reacting and bringing your knowledge and expertise and bridging gaps. ❤
Yeah, that boy band stigma. "What do you know about good music? You're probably liking them because you think they look good." And all that nonsense.
The problem is that they are stuck in “Kpop” category even when their songs are NOT Kpop. Like Indigo, RPWP or even their old mixtapes - this stops a lot of people that actually like the gender from knowing them and listening to it. Add to this that Koop still brings a lot of prejudice, and BTS even more so - they still call army a bunch of 12 year olds, so it’s hard. We try our best to change this and give them more visibility, but most of the times it’s hard to break the bubble - specially for the RapLine
Varnell is a liar already. I feel like we need the Emotional Support soundboard 😂😂😂
For “Forg_tful” he left the E out to show that he’s so forgetful that he forgot to write the E 😭 just a sweet little detail
They don’t want anyone to see this. Suga said I always thought rappers had to write their own rhymes so that’s what we did. BTS is a triple threat in the sense….amazing vocal line….dangerous rappers who speak on social issues and the fact they can shine bright as solo. That’s why they are always attacked and why people are trying to silence them. But see they have Army and baby army’s *coughs* Varnell lol and so they didn’t expect how much power we have. It’s crazy to me how threatened people feel. I’m glad I’m army because I would have missed great music. You need to play joke by RM for Varnell 💜
Not the sia feature reference😂😂😂yeah none of like that😂we all agree as Armys that we don’t fuck with it😂 can’t wait for part 2!!!!!!❤
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Pardon?
RM loves nature, art (all forms), peace and quiet...and this album reflects all that because he wanted to show us who he was on his twenties.
i got you, varnell ;) "just one day" is a bts song released back in 2014 and it's quite an iconic one
"i'm mad because it's my first time hearing this." i felt that in my soul.
Varnell hit the nail on the head. RM is so genre-bending but the one thing that unites his music and makes it his own brand is that it SOUNDS OUTDOORSY. He loves nature and is consistently inspired by it, and the artist Yun Hyong-keun (who was a big inspiration for the album and his art his featured in the cover, as well as his voice and general message being used in Track 1) only painted based on nature - plus the colour indigo is a completely natural dye, it’s the most natural colour. This album, more than any of his works, feels like a reflection on his life so far while strolling in the park. It’s so him.
Varnell getting mad at algorithm for not showing BTS music is how i felt when i got introduced to their music. They truly don't get the respect and recognition for their artistry.
The feature that we don't have to talk about 😂😂
59 yrs old, 5 Yr ARMY! Along with my daughter. I do enjoy your videos and podcasts. I especially love seeing people learning about and hearing BTS. I've seen Elvis, MJ, Prince, and many many other artists in my life. Never experienced anything like BTS. I'm glad you are spreading the BTS world.
79 yo ARMY. Similar thoughts! 💜
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEE. 1 minute ago. So excited. Big Hit flew Wale and his crew out to Korea. It was all done in Korea. Wale talks about it in an interview. Gives RM incredible props. The interview clip floats around every once in a while. I am sure someone has it!! Looking forward to ACT II. Loving the deep dive. RM has been my bias now for 6 years. And Varnell, I say this with the deepest respect. Get in line ;)
The smile on my face waiting to see his reaction for Wale. Didn't disappoint. Dancing with you guys on the second part of the song.
i'm pretty sure anderson doesn't have a verse because joon didn't ask for one let's be fr. if you watch him talk about his process on this album you'd see how particular and stubborn he was about all the features he knew exactly who and what he wanted on all the tracks
Story time...
I was listening to INDIGO in a fast moving bus feeling the wind in window seat....... Bus got into a small accident..... Thanks to creator of indigo for creating such a great album i was still enjoying indigo in my head 😂
Hope you're alright, though!
As a RM biased army, It makes me so happy to see you guys appreciate RM's ART, he is the real artist!💜 I wish you'd also react to the first mixtape RM and Mono too! Can't wait for pt.2!!💜💜💜
did you mention mono? YES! and of course after mono it´ll be "RM"
Thank you guys so much for all your commentary and critiques. I really feel what you're saying, Varnell, about this pigeonholing and sabotaging they do to the rappers. Even if BTS as a whole is way more in line with typical k-pop (debatable, but it can be argued that way for argument's sake) the rappers solo works are not and never have been "k-pop."
I think that the American music industry is mad that they can't make money off of BTS and the members because they did not sign with an American label. I don't know a ton about how this stuff works since I'm just a casual listener, but I think I heard that even the distribution deal that Hybe/Big Hit has with Geffen for BTS etc is way less lucrative for Geffen than you'd normally see with a foreign act that was trying to break into the US mainstream at the time. So there's a bit of resistance to featuring them here or letting them be popular.
There's even crazy stats that go around frequently that prove that BTS faces one of the highest view filtering rates on all of RUclips, when we're streaming trying to boost the guys' new work, views and listens literally get deleted. RUclips claims it is because of "bot-like" activity but why is BTS filtered more than Taylor Swift or other Western Artists who can't even sell out the stadiums that BTS has sold out (multiple nights in a row)?? Those are bodies in seats that should prove the authenticity of the the views and streaming.
Ugh, I'm getting heated.
But I think Varnell would LOVE some of the video essays that boracity puts out that talk on these topics. I'll come back with some video titles in a hit since I can't recall off the top of my head.
Boracity Magazine video recs:
1. Why the music industry is terrified of BTS
2. BTS vs radio
3. BTS vs Spotify
4. BTS are rockstars
5. Why most ARMYs dont like kpop
6. BTS and "k-pop without the k"
Tell Varnell don't follow us down the "Who's blocking BTS rabbit hole".......
He's getting there.....but once he's in.....no getting out 👀. We're out here fighting Battles FR!!!
Even if you are not reacting to it, but please do show RM’s Indigo Magazine Film to Varnell. It is always great hearing Namjoon talk about his music, his eyes light up, his passion shows and his genius shines through. I think Varnell would really appreciate the album more after hearing that.
We actually Love the emotional support soundboard !! Hahahahahaha....
We do...but I think it's Varnell who has vetoed it! lol
@@girondellecd That's because he already knows he's fallen down the rabbit hole hahahahaha
I Love that you showed him the OG Change!!!
No but seeing Varnell starting to have STRONG opinions about music and Sleep just saying "preach" is amazing
Yun- starts with a sample of the artist Yun speaking.
Speak facts- the reason ARMY goes hard is because of the Western gatekeepers.
10:31 him counting the f word when you know lonely is coming 😂
“Closer” is one of my favorite songs, is a vibe for me. I’m so glad to see this reaction. And Paul Blanco was so freakin good in that song that I had to check out his music & now I like his song “Summer”. Thanks RM lol