@@davidegeland2380 Dave do you have one? I'm seriously considering one after my truck is payed off. I'm leaning towards the center console but I'd have to plan a trip to drive one.
I own a vexus avx2080. I like it. Yes it expensive. I like both glass and tin. I wish it came with a 250. It's a heavy boat for a tin. Love your true honest reviews. Keep it up. Your awesome. I got screwed paying over priced on a pop can. I'm buying a bass cat.
I bought a used 2018 avx 1980 had 14 hrs on it.I was told it was the second one off the line. It had 2 helix 9s..paid 32.5K it has the #80 Ultrex which will pull it right at 4mph .upgraded to 3 Helix 9's gen3 and 360 and bought a matching 2010 Suburban to pull it with.. out the door $45K.lol.Anyway I have run that boat hard for 450 hrs only problem I've had is LED light strip under drivers console went out. Mercury Fourstroke 150 only runs 55 but I'm old and thats fast enough gas mileage is amazing
How about an episode on Jet outboards? Your experience, MERC, Yamaha, etc....thoughts, water performance, etc....I have not seen anything in your history on this topic. Be fun! You could even do it with jet strapped on TIN boat...Gatortrax (I own one with a Merc 115/80 jet) vs Havoc? something fun like that. Love your channel!! Thanks, Rob
I've got my Gator Trax 1970gt with 200 zuke on order loaded the way I want it for rite at $72K . Sure , I could have spent alot less for alot less of a boat .
No hate but would like to give an opinion from a guy who just bought a 17 foot ranger pop can boat. The guys like me that buy these boats are either budget minded, or have smaller vehicles to tow with. I think a very small amount of people would outfit it the way you have. On my ranger, I went with 2 garmin 9 inch fish finders one on bow and one on console and an ultrex. I think if I was going all out with jack plates, hot foot, power poles 4 screens etc I’d buy a used glass boat and upgrade, which is probably the entire point you’re trying to make. My only thing I’d have you guys consider during your tin boat series is maybe not build it like you’d build a glass boat. Cheers guys, love your channel and your candor.
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My local dealership is pushing these tin cans out the door for some reason and I don’t get it if I’m paying that I’m going with the Ranger or a well known brand.
Overpriced for sure you should look at avid, xpress, lund pro v bass, seaark, wareagle, ranger would be an excellent group of boats representing the high end tin boats. I will add you save some money with smaller outboards and trolling motors and fuel costs due to weight reduction.
@@richardcampbell6493 take Ranger out of that group. Just a more expensive Bass Tracker. Also Vexus and Avid are hybrid so everything on the inside is glass. Much more sturdy, stable, and makes it a much better ride with the weight
@@biggernumber2715 did they fix the fiberglass by the trolling motor foot pedal. I meet few people said they had take a rubber mallet beat the fiber glass to pop back down.
I bought a 1996 stratos xl 201 rebuilt it from the ground up. Put a 250 sho 2 12 foot talons 4 hummingbird 10s with side and down fortrex 112 (sorry not a deep fishing guy so I didnt see the need for the ultrex . Re did my tandem axle trailer wrapped it did easy 72 MPH on a glass hull. For under 42. Including re wiring. Deck extension (professionally built by dealer) and it's an eye Turner. The kicker is that I paid for half of it selling my 18 foot tin boat.... 70k??? No thx great vid guys. Respect from the great white north.
My dealer which is a Vexus dealer and USED to be a Ranger dealer for 39 years until Johnny Morris yanked their dealership from them because they took on Vexus !! They say the best Vexus aluminum is the 1980 for value and handling. They claim the 2080 grabs a lot more wind and gets pushed around more. Performance wise their suggestion is the 1980. Thank goodness I get my Ranger 620 pre Johnny ! The 620 is IMO the best multi species boat ever built.
Love your channel, but nobody adds that many options to the Vexus 2080. I sell 40 a year at my dealership. most by with (2) 10" units, victor package, ultrex 80. They can get the boat around 50k.
Can't go wrong with a Vexus. I've been riding in them since they were released. Excellent built boat with full Vexus backing. Any issue(s), Vexus will go out of their way to make it right. They treat you like family
Agree! Lots of good used boats out there. Not much has changed in bass boats in the last 20 years. Repower, new carpet and seats and you save yourself $40k, bankruptcy and a divorce!
@@atthebrink74 I paid 14,000.00 for mine and it 2- humming 997c up front amd one at the council. Repowered and am upgrading to minn kota ultrex 112lbs some time next year. Then am going to up grade electronics to either 12 or 15. One at front and one at back amd connect them together. Cant see have 2 when you can set the screen the way you want it.
Recommend guys looking at boats go buy a used glass this Winter when prices are lower. My b'law has a 2020 Z518C he bought during the summer and pays just shy of $450/mth for 15 years. I assure you, worth learning some wrenching skills to avoid that kind of payment a month!
Im in for ordering a boat and this program is really helpful for me in Europe. I would like to hear some honest Words and review of the Campion rage 22. OMG. What a boat. I Got a Price from Vexus Europe on the dvx 19 my Dream boat but 135.000 euro (165.000 $) with tax prep and freigt Ce. And on and on. it’s a realy good and honest dealer but thats fact here in Europe. I am so sad but over valued for my Wallet Thanks for the honest videos. Jesper from Copenhagen (Denmark).
Love your channel. Here in the PNW the aluminum boat has several advantages in my opinion. We have so many diverse bodies of water to fish or run. When I'm out fishing with my kid I can beach my aluminum hull w little to no worries. We can go swimming, beach comb/explore and BBQ and I'm not concerned about hull damage occurring as I would be on my fiberglass boat. Kids generally need a break from fishing so the above is needed for a short time. Then we can hop back in boat and go fish again. When I run on some of rivers the same goes. I've had both of my boats on a few different rivers. The pucker factor is higher w my fiberglass. The interior has NO wood. A must here in the PNW. Wood has a tendency to rot. I haven't had any lost time off the water replacing wood on my aluminum vs the time and upkeep I've lost on my fiberglass. I love all boats and being out on the water teaching the next generation to fish and about nature. The best boat is the one a person can afford. Being in education I can't afford any of those expensive boats. My boats have all been pre-owned and older. I go through them usually rewiring the whole boat then upgrading what I can afford. No big payment means more time on the water, I think we can agree that's where it's at. Tight lines and good times. Keep up the great work with your channel
I agree they are expensive and hp rating is low, but they are great quality and have fantastic customer service from my experience. I believe they are the closest ride to a glass boat you will find. I have owned numerous boats (glass and aluminum) and in my opinion Vexus customer service is the best I have experienced. They are the real deal.
I use to own a Tin Boat, it was a Ass Tracker. I wont own another one because the boat had a bad seal somewhere and would take on water, had to run the bilge pump the whole time i was on the lake. Well a traffic accident took care of my problem with the boat, it got totaled so insurance took care of it.
Team Marine Service yeah it was a sad day of sorts that day, my dad and i violently rolled the boat and trailer, most of the tackle was lost in the farmland, the grass was so tall and thick we couldn’t find the lures etc. Gives a new meaning to the word “Tracker” 😂🤣 This was back in the 1980’s and we bought most of our rods at Walmart, we actually returned the broken rods and exchanged them for new ones 😂🤣 that was back in the day where you could return anything to Walmart for exchange and refund if you had a receipt, up to and including loaded baby diapers! 🥴🥴💩
Have 2020 1980 with 150 an spot lock with 2 nice graphs with 6 inch Manuel jack plate an upgraded to dual axle trailer an steps, 39,500. Cons 1980 should be max rating of 200hp an 2080 should be max rating of 225! Where this boat shines is when the trolling motor is in the water. Tons of room ,fish 2 big guys up front all day. Some of the best storage in a boat of that size! Ranger 1980p maybe cheaper but you look like you’re riding an fishing in a flat bottom john boat, no where near the rear storage!
Anyone wanting a aluminam boat should by the 19ft tracker with 150 mercy amd add what ever they want to it and will Probly be umder the 40,000.00. Looked at it when my motor blew and found one marked down to 32,000.00 and 1 for 29,000.00 because someone bought it and blew the 4 stroke up and they put a next year new motor on it, but can't sale it as new.
The 1980 is the buy. I’ve been in the market for aluminum over glass just due to the fact my local fishing is a lot of skinny back water and shallow dam areas. If I lived in a area with large reservoirs or draw downs there’s no question glass is the way to go. It’s shame the price tags are so close for what’s realistically less boat.
My first choice, but I fish tons of small lakes if I fished lake Cumberland, Ky lake those bigger lakes I would have pulled the trigger! I love that front deck an I loved the option for the jump seats which makes this boat the best all around boat to play , fish what ever! You will be completely happy with that big Lund!!
Whole heartedly agree with your opinion. Not saying that's a bad boat, but that is way too much money for a tin rig. Don't forget to add the taxes and rigging, plus freight, lol.
@Team Marine Service I have a avx 1980 without poles. I have a atlas hydraulic jack plate and vector package. Out the door it was 41k. I installed all my own Garmin stuff. I think you guys duplicated some stuff, because all my buddies that have avx 2080 got theirs with poles for around 51k. Seriously... As far as under powered, I definitely agree. The AVX 1980 should have a 200, and the AVX 2080 should have a 225...period!
I have the 1980 i fish quite a bit in current dont under stand your obsession with the 112 min kota trolling motor the one i got moves the boat quite well with smaller one i got 2 12 inch depthfinders i aint quite good enough on depthfinders for 4 of them but got power poles jack plate and sea star hot foot boat fishes better than my stratos did faster with 3 people than my 285 was with 2 so far i am happier than i ever was with it is all i am saying but agree prices are to high for boats now
I agree and I will also say that the electronics are stupidly overpriced especially the Helix units for all the manual scrolling crap you have to do! Touch screen should be all they make anymore in my opinion but then the Solix processor is so friggin slow and freezes up so bad?!?! My new boat came pre rigged with 2 Helix 12’s 🤮 #ImissmyGarmins!!
I've been on there website and built several. You messed up on several purchases. The tandem axels comes standard on the 2080, also the straps are part of the vexus package. I've loaded my builds out and haven't went over 54,000. And also they are not all tin.
Own the avx2080 and wouldn't change a thing total bill 56 Garmin 93 bow to console Closes runner up would be the xpress tin but the bow being like a fiberglass boat and the large fiberglass compartments sold me on the vexus
You can't put a bigger motor on it because the build strength isn't good enough. On a 20ft gatertrax you can put on a 250hp the pricing is probably around the same and it can be a suzuki 250ss. But but but with gatertrax it's custom and you can get it anyway you want and quality of a fiberglass. Again 250! Oh and plus you will have to call and talk to the owner to build one. If I remember you like that. Lol please call and do a gatertrax next. Tbh though only problem i have with this over under thing is going into more detail about quality. You need to watch a gatertrax build video before you do their over under. Not many tins do over 70mph but gatertrax does. Once my truck is payed off I think I'll be planning a trip to test drive one and I have a stratos 201xl now. I read down and seen someone mentioned warranty. Well gatertrax hull is lifetime. Does anyone else offer that?
Great comment and Info Adam! We appreciate it. We will be contacting Gator Trax for sure in the future and we will add that we are definitely fans of what they've got going on.
1880 is where Vexus shines in the Tin market. I looked at the 1980 and 2080, really did not make financial sense going with either considering what you get for the money. My 1880 fishes great and I put some nice goodies on it for the price savings.
I was looking at the 1880 as well with a similar build you guys are doing and I think built at 46-48k. I’ve heard nothing but great things about vexus but I decided to with a Basscat Sabre. Nothing like a 18’1 glass boat with a 175 on it.
@@TeamMarineService 2 7' bird Gn3's 1 10' Bird Gn3 on the helm, 1 Garmin 9"' and livescope and a 135 Rude HO, Victor package Ultrex I pilot, I was rite At 45k
I got my 1880 just below 30k. No graphs or poles. Took them off my old boat that was in a accident in the interstate. With a ultrex. Had a couple some problems that they fixed. Hell I just called them to ask about the new rod tie down for the co angler on the 2021 models and they sent me the part.
Just out of curiosity......How much would it cost to replace the transom, new gel coat, etc, etc, etc, repower, rebuild the trailer, new electronics and trolling motor on my 1996 CHAMP 202? Ok, I will just rebuild it. 72k for a tin can, dumb.
people will always throw shade on what they can’t afford. However if you have ever drove one or don’t own one you’ll never understand. The comments crack me up
Want to know why it can only hold a 200? Straight from my rep at Vexus: Could not get them to pass the coast guard hull certification. same reason why the 1980s only get a 150 and the 1880s get a 115.
I can get a BassCat Sabre FTD SP with all the accessories I want for $54000. Sorry...no brainer!!! Yes it's a 18 footer, but I want best bang for buck boat. Plus I think it's gonna fit in my garage.
Something is definitely not accurate with that price. I have a 2021 AVX2080 with a 112lb ultrex that they will add. I have lowrance TI2 on both bow and consol and I did have poles already. I payed 52k out the door. I love my Vexus. 200HP runs 66-67mph. You need to drive one as it rides nothing like an aluminum boat. It rides better than my buddies X21 Xpress.
@@TeamMarineService i just feel these videos do a disservice to boat sales if the prices are not realistic. I like your videos but your going to turn people off from checking out various boat manufacturers. Reach out to a dealer and have them price it to you and get an accurate price. If you give the dealer a shout out im sure they will work with you.
We understand where you're coming from, but let's hold the manufacturers a little more accountable for what's on their websites and for what they're producing. As for calling dealers we ran into the problem of big price discrepancies around the country for the same rig so we will continue to either go off of their websites or even better call them directly for pricing.
@@TeamMarineService i can understand that. I like the thought of calling the manufacturer directly. I really do like the comparison videos. I would like to see you demo the boats after your done with the price videos to see what value to the dollar you actually get.
Wow, I’ve actually have seen one at the ramp and thought... if I ever buy a new one, might be one of those. I guess that wiring in my brain where I think “Tin Rig” I think “affordable” was dead wrong... Bet that dude I saw looked at my junky ol’ NAtro and thought... wonder what his boat payment is... I should get a personalized trailer plate the says (PAIDFOE)
I know you will probably do Xpress, Ranger, Crestliner, etc........could you please do Gator Trax and Havoc? Look at the gauge aluminum and what they say?
You should look at a ranger 198p. They start at about 38000 and that's with just a 150. All bass boats are over priced. Its gotten to where you have to be super rich just to go tournament fishing and some what well off just to go fun fishing. Its ridiculous.
Got my 2020 1880 with 2 helix 9s and am ultrex 80 for under 40k brand new. I will say that 68k is expensive, especially if you look at the zxr from skeeter, but you do need to ride in one.
I payed $49,900 for my 2021 2080. Out the door at like 52 or 53 with taxes. Only difference was I have 2 Lowrance TI2 and I had poles already. But exactly the same options otherwise.
@@biggernumber2715 Johnny, I bought my 2021 with two 10” helix and a 10” garmin with panoptics as well as 2 power pole blades for $57k out the door. Also an ultrex trolling motor and the victor package. 72 Marine Sales in Elberton, GA
Lund pro- v bass and Crestliner mx 21 get a 250 on them. The Lund is a lot of money though. Might as well go glass for their pricing. But all boats tin or glass are over priced today
According to the internet (I say that so that you take this as "facts" that have come from the internet). The AVX 2080 is rated for a max 200 hp, thus why they wouldn't let you put a 225 on it. My question is this, the 2080 has a dry weight of 1800 lbs (obviously the more you add this goes up but for comparison sakes 1800lb). Power to weight ratio would be 1:9, sounds respectable. I wanted to compare to the vx 20 (or whatever their glass 20 footer was).... I can't find the dry weight, the engineer and racer in me would be very curious to see the comparison of a 200 tin to a 250 glass.
Just guessing based on bottom of hull design the glass boat has it by approx 10 mph. Tin rig has a flat bottom or very small pad and the glass rig is a more efficient running bottom.
I went back and looked at this one after you just did the xpress review wondering why you were so down on this bot compared to so up on the xpress. 200 vs 250, makes sense
Fair question Justin! We never got a return phone call from Vexus. To us we feel like it's important for companies to return phone calls to customers who inquire about their boats. We understand that things happen but we tried multiple times.
@@TeamMarineService that’s crazy. I bought a tin boat from cabelas and they ordered in the wrong boat, shocker but first time buyer I’m allowed some mistakes. While trying to decide what to do, I got a call from a vexus regional manager who gave me his number and wanted me to buy a boat from them. Very long story short, bought a vexus, and my experience with the business anyway has been extraordinary. I live in Washington state so we are very very limited on boat dealers here. I do enjoy all your videos. Thanks for the reply.
Express doesn’t have a fiberglass line, so they could shoot for the moon! Vexus is trying sell the vx 20,21, so there was no way they would build a tin boat that would rival there flagship vx 20 or 21 ! An by the way ALL boats are over priced period ! They make all there money will all the add ons!!! I like the express An love what they are doing ,but the quality An ride of the Vexus is pretty good!! Remember anything that is sold An got marine or RV attached to the name you know your going to pay too much!!
But it is a tin boat. You can polish a turd and make it shiny but it’s still a turd. I don’t doubt they ride like no other tin boat but For that kinda money there is zero reason to not go glass. I think Tin boats have a place but not for nearly $70,000. Here in Texas at least, you can get a brand new skeeter zx200 with power poles, hydraulic jack plate, graphs and 112lb ultrex for that or really close. That’s just one for instance. Also gotta factor in resale value. Tin boats and nitros are the worst when it comes to holding value.
@@TrippyWheelz The AVX2080 is in the neighborhood or $43,000. Don't know where you get 70 from. Glass boats can be polished turds too. One reason why I still have my 1986 Ranger and it still rides better than the ones I've been in glass wise, no I'm not saying all just the ones I've been in. My Skeeter 200zx, 1994, rides ok but won't beat the ride of my ranger. So what ever. I thought the same thing about all tin boats once until I tried it. Oh that 43k price is with an ultrex and two nines, live on the bow. So even with 12s it won't be 70k. The glass VX20 might start at that but not the avx 2080. Oh obviously I don't buy for resale.
@@darryladams519 you are talking about old boats and different models but ok, I won’t sit here and have a pillow fight with you. There is a reason the market prefers glass but go ahead and buy the coke can.
@@TrippyWheelz Pillow fight wow, you sound like the one trying to pick it. I ain't buying one no time soon glass or otherwise. Poor thing I'm sorry that my preferring to keep what I have that's paid for offends you. All I stated originally was it don't ride like any other tin boat and you opened it.
Love the way the rig looks. But so glad I'm not the only one thinking that's one hell of a price tag for something with a 200 that most people are seeing low, mid and few higher 60s. 225 or 250 on that rig, make it a 70mph+ like the Xpress and maybe folks will consider.
@@bluemaixma04 I'd love to hear about it. I can't afford a Gator Trax. I was sold on a AVX 1980, but 20XB looks very good. I like the thicker hull a lot. The Excel EX200 also looks interesting. Any info you can provide would be awesome. Thank you!
@@TeamMarineService also curious on avid. You can't add the 225 or the bigger motor on the avid either because they couldn't pass the coast guard regulations for those hp numbers. The max is the max because the actual hull design of the boat is unstable with more hp. They need to go back to the drawing board for a 70k tin boat. Avid is cheaper and better and apparently has a 21footer coming with a 250.
You are spot on Charles and understand what we are trying to accomplish here. Literally everything in the industry has such a high mark up that everything is getting inflated!
@@TeamMarineService I appreciate what your doing. There is not a bit of outstanding innovation that they can claim. Even with all that is coming from Garman, Lowrance, and the rest. They are just bringing it to the Fishing public. I tell you what .They may try to justify the cost, and I mean all the manufacturers ,not just the boat builders, but they seem to want to make a killing, not just a decent profit. They will end up hurting themselves.
All boats are overpriced. I'm friends with a guy that owns a major boat company. The only reason boats sell for what they do is because we are dumb enough to pay it. That's the only reason period. He says they keep going up and up and up and the dealers keep selling out. If we want affordable boats again we must stop buying them
My question is how thick is the aluminum? Do they use foam? Do they use extruded aluminum bracing or make their own bracing out of cheap metal flat sheets? These are the questions and answers not addressed here.
Just curious, would a more fair assessment be just valuing the "base model w/standard features"? I'm guessing all options, especially major ones (graphs, poles, etc) would run close to the same from manufacturer to manufacturer with the exception of specific "packages" for each boat line. I definitely would include max hp with each base model...thoughts?? Great series....
Our approach from the first Over / Under was to build a rig that we would want and allow us to fish competitively. We understand where you are coming from but on the same hand we are not trying sugar coat any of this pricing. 👍🏻
Definitely over priced! Could have the nitro glass for nearly same money. Wish would continue the glass series. Still Lots of boats in that area for over under....charger, Caymas, Bullet, gambler, falcon, Phoenix, legend and Allison is now back with a new boat
Gator Trax for the WIN!!!
Blah! Swamp boats.
@@ddm62571 bass boat buddy!
@@davidegeland2380 Yeah don't see many people rushing out to buy those.
@@ddm62571 yeah because they aren't mass produced junk. Takes 11 weeks to build one.
@@davidegeland2380 Dave do you have one? I'm seriously considering one after my truck is payed off. I'm leaning towards the center console but I'd have to plan a trip to drive one.
I own a vexus avx2080. I like it. Yes it expensive. I like both glass and tin. I wish it came with a 250. It's a heavy boat for a tin. Love your true honest reviews. Keep it up. Your awesome. I got screwed paying over priced on a pop can. I'm buying a bass cat.
Have a 1980 AVX closest ride to glass there is. will do 58 with a 150proxs plenty fast.
I bought a used 2018 avx 1980 had 14 hrs on it.I was told it was the second one off the line. It had 2 helix 9s..paid 32.5K it has the #80 Ultrex which will pull it right at 4mph .upgraded to 3 Helix 9's gen3 and 360 and bought a matching 2010 Suburban to pull it with.. out the door $45K.lol.Anyway I have run that boat hard for 450 hrs only problem I've had is LED light strip under drivers console went out. Mercury Fourstroke 150 only runs 55 but I'm old and thats fast enough gas mileage is amazing
How about an episode on Jet outboards? Your experience, MERC, Yamaha, etc....thoughts, water performance, etc....I have not seen anything in your history on this topic. Be fun! You could even do it with jet strapped on TIN boat...Gatortrax (I own one with a Merc 115/80 jet) vs Havoc? something fun like that. Love your channel!!
Thanks,
Rob
Pop cans are winning classics these days.
To freaking high dude
I've got my Gator Trax 1970gt with 200 zuke on order loaded the way I want it for rite at $72K . Sure , I could have spent alot less for alot less of a boat .
No hate but would like to give an opinion from a guy who just bought a 17 foot ranger pop can boat. The guys like me that buy these boats are either budget minded, or have smaller vehicles to tow with. I think a very small amount of people would outfit it the way you have. On my ranger, I went with 2 garmin 9 inch fish finders one on bow and one on console and an ultrex. I think if I was going all out with jack plates, hot foot, power poles 4 screens etc I’d buy a used glass boat and upgrade, which is probably the entire point you’re trying to make. My only thing I’d have you guys consider during your tin boat series is maybe not build it like you’d build a glass boat. Cheers guys, love your channel and your candor.
Love this series but I don’t think most buying an aluminum will add on as much. I could see two nice graphs and a spot lock trolling motor.
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My local dealership is pushing these tin cans out the door for some reason and I don’t get it if I’m paying that I’m going with the Ranger or a well known brand.
What do you guys think? Is the AVX2080 OVERPRICED or UNDERVALUED?
Loving these Friday releases! Keep up the great work! Guessing Xpress next!
Overpriced for sure you should look at avid, xpress, lund pro v bass, seaark, wareagle, ranger would be an excellent group of boats representing the high end tin boats. I will add you save some money with smaller outboards and trolling motors and fuel costs due to weight reduction.
@@richardcampbell6493 take Ranger out of that group. Just a more expensive Bass Tracker. Also Vexus and Avid are hybrid so everything on the inside is glass. Much more sturdy, stable, and makes it a much better ride with the weight
@@ryanleague9112 exactly!! I love my AVX2080! It is not your traditional aluminum boat!!
@@biggernumber2715 did they fix the fiberglass by the trolling motor foot pedal. I meet few people said they had take a rubber mallet beat the fiber glass to pop back down.
Good for you you finally got one right
If I was gonna spend that kind of money I can get a glass boat.
Gator traxs strike please. Looks like there built like a tank
You got it! 👍🏻
Talk to Kent Saxon at Gator Trax
I bought a 1996 stratos xl 201 rebuilt it from the ground up. Put a 250 sho 2 12 foot talons 4 hummingbird 10s with side and down fortrex 112 (sorry not a deep fishing guy so I didnt see the need for the ultrex . Re did my tandem axle trailer wrapped it did easy 72 MPH on a glass hull. For under 42. Including re wiring. Deck extension (professionally built by dealer) and it's an eye Turner. The kicker is that I paid for half of it selling my 18 foot tin boat.... 70k??? No thx great vid guys. Respect from the great white north.
I would take a custom built Gator Trax with better accessories for less than the Vexus.
Dam 68k......if I'm spending that much I'm just gonna get an Allison xb21 for a little more.
My dealer which is a Vexus dealer and USED to be a Ranger dealer for 39 years until Johnny Morris yanked their dealership from them because they took on Vexus !! They say the best Vexus aluminum is the 1980 for value and handling. They claim the 2080 grabs a lot more wind and gets pushed around more. Performance wise their suggestion is the 1980. Thank goodness I get my Ranger 620 pre Johnny ! The 620 is IMO the best multi species boat ever built.
Start beating on your paper!!
Love your channel, but nobody adds that many options to the Vexus 2080. I sell 40 a year at my dealership. most by with (2) 10" units, victor package, ultrex 80. They can get the boat around 50k.
Can't go wrong with a Vexus. I've been riding in them since they were released. Excellent built boat with full Vexus backing. Any issue(s), Vexus will go out of their way to make it right. They treat you like family
That's great to hear Ryan! At the end of the day that's what's important!
They better for the premium price that they are asking.
There are several people posting that say their hulls crack. I am not going to spent 40 $50,000 on a hull that’s gonna crack
I checked these out before I found my good old skeeter and I thought they are over priced. REPOWER ONLY WAY TO GO!
You are correct Lonnie, repowering is the way to go!
Agree! Lots of good used boats out there. Not much has changed in bass boats in the last 20 years. Repower, new carpet and seats and you save yourself $40k, bankruptcy and a divorce!
@@atthebrink74 I paid 14,000.00 for mine and it 2- humming 997c up front amd one at the council. Repowered and am upgrading to minn kota ultrex 112lbs some time next year. Then am going to up grade electronics to either 12 or 15. One at front and one at back amd connect them together. Cant see have 2 when you can set the screen the way you want it.
Recommend guys looking at boats go buy a used glass this Winter when prices are lower. My b'law has a 2020 Z518C he bought during the summer and pays just shy of $450/mth for 15 years. I assure you, worth learning some wrenching skills to avoid that kind of payment a month!
Wow that is a payment that none of us here would want!
Im in for ordering a boat and this program is really helpful for me in Europe. I would like to hear some honest Words and review of the Campion rage 22. OMG. What a boat.
I Got a Price from Vexus Europe on the dvx 19 my Dream boat but 135.000 euro (165.000 $) with tax prep and freigt Ce. And on and on. it’s a realy good and honest dealer but thats fact here in Europe. I am so sad but over valued for my Wallet
Thanks for the honest videos. Jesper from Copenhagen (Denmark).
Love your channel. Here in the PNW the aluminum boat has several advantages in my opinion. We have so many diverse bodies of water to fish or run.
When I'm out fishing with my kid I can beach my aluminum hull w little to no worries. We can go swimming, beach comb/explore and BBQ and I'm not concerned about hull damage occurring as I would be on my fiberglass boat. Kids generally need a break from fishing so the above is needed for a short time. Then we can hop back in boat and go fish again.
When I run on some of rivers the same goes. I've had both of my boats on a few different rivers. The pucker factor is higher w my fiberglass.
The interior has NO wood. A must here in the PNW. Wood has a tendency to rot. I haven't had any lost time off the water replacing wood on my aluminum vs the time and upkeep I've lost on my fiberglass.
I love all boats and being out on the water teaching the next generation to fish and about nature.
The best boat is the one a person can afford. Being in education I can't afford any of those expensive boats. My boats have all been pre-owned and older. I go through them usually rewiring the whole boat then upgrading what I can afford.
No big payment means more time on the water, I think we can agree that's where it's at. Tight lines and good times. Keep up the great work with your channel
I agree they are expensive and hp rating is low, but they are great quality and have fantastic customer service from my experience. I believe they are the closest ride to a glass boat you will find. I have owned numerous boats (glass and aluminum) and in my opinion Vexus customer service is the best I have experienced. They are the real deal.
I am a fat guy too also like lights in the well OVERPRICED
Hahaha Neil is reaching out for a fist bump!
@@TeamMarineService Back at him
I use to own a Tin Boat, it was a Ass Tracker. I wont own another one because the boat had a bad seal somewhere and would take on water, had to run the bilge pump the whole time i was on the lake. Well a traffic accident took care of my problem with the boat, it got totaled so insurance took care of it.
Bye Bye Tracker! Haha
Team Marine Service yeah it was a sad day of sorts that day, my dad and i violently rolled the boat and trailer, most of the tackle was lost in the farmland, the grass was so tall and thick we couldn’t find the lures etc. Gives a new meaning to the word “Tracker” 😂🤣
This was back in the 1980’s and we bought most of our rods at Walmart, we actually returned the broken rods and exchanged them for new ones 😂🤣
that was back in the day where you could return anything to Walmart for exchange and refund if you had a receipt, up to and including loaded baby diapers! 🥴🥴💩
These boat manufactures are pricing their customers out of the market.
You ain't wrong!
Have 2020 1980 with 150 an spot lock with 2 nice graphs with 6 inch Manuel jack plate an upgraded to dual axle trailer an steps, 39,500. Cons 1980 should be max rating of 200hp an 2080 should be max rating of 225! Where this boat shines is when the trolling motor is in the water. Tons of room ,fish 2 big guys up front all day. Some of the best storage in a boat of that size! Ranger 1980p maybe cheaper but you look like you’re riding an fishing in a flat bottom john boat, no where near the rear storage!
PROV BASS
Lund 2075 Pro-V Bass
Lund is happening soon!
Cheaper than Gatortraxx.
Even the guys who work at Vexus building them tin rigs will tell you that a Gator Trax boat is built better! Lol
@@TeamMarineService It should be when it cost as much as fiberglass. It’s just hard to picture spending 84,000 on an aluminum.
Anyone wanting a aluminam boat should by the 19ft tracker with 150 mercy amd add what ever they want to it and will Probly be umder the 40,000.00. Looked at it when my motor blew and found one marked down to 32,000.00 and 1 for 29,000.00 because someone bought it and blew the 4 stroke up and they put a next year new motor on it, but can't sale it as new.
Gator Trax Strike Series !!
You got it Denny! We like those!
@@TeamMarineService I bet you wont like the price
It'll be the boat of your dreams and the last boat you'll ever have to buy
I looked at the 1980 totally loaded out was over 50K NO Friggeb Way!
For comparisons sake. That's the same price I just paid for my phoenix 819 pro, with the same electronics.
Wow you got the better deal!
The 1980 is the buy. I’ve been in the market for aluminum over glass just due to the fact my local fishing is a lot of skinny back water and shallow dam areas. If I lived in a area with large reservoirs or draw downs there’s no question glass is the way to go. It’s shame the price tags are so close for what’s realistically less boat.
Lund 2075 Pro-V Bass next!
You got it!
Mine went $75K+ setup nicely. Overpriced in my opinion, still love the boat though
My first choice, but I fish tons of small lakes if I fished lake Cumberland, Ky lake those bigger lakes I would have pulled the trigger! I love that front deck an I loved the option for the jump seats which makes this boat the best all around boat to play , fish what ever! You will be completely happy with that big Lund!!
@@johnburris5927 i am happy so far. Been running this rig going on 3 seasons now🤘🤙
Absolutely the Lund Pro V Bass is a MUST - Lund build sheets are not too cheap haha
Whole heartedly agree with your opinion. Not saying that's a bad boat, but that is way too much money for a tin rig. Don't forget to add the taxes and rigging, plus freight, lol.
Can y’all do the Lund pro v bass
Coming soon!
@@TeamMarineService the extra seat one would be the all round boat fish tournaments and take the family out too
You guys should price out some aluminum walleye boats. Your heads will explode.
Happening for sure!
I will say, a flashed 200 sho on a vx20 would be a fun boat!
Also the vx20 is a 200 hp max
AVX 20 is 200 right? ;)
@@TeamMarineService sorry that’s what I meant! Avx not vx. So similar to the lol
@Team Marine Service I have a avx 1980 without poles. I have a atlas hydraulic jack plate and vector package. Out the door it was 41k. I installed all my own Garmin stuff. I think you guys duplicated some stuff, because all my buddies that have avx 2080 got theirs with poles for around 51k. Seriously...
As far as under powered, I definitely agree. The AVX 1980 should have a 200, and the AVX 2080 should have a 225...period!
A flashed 200sho pumping 330hp should make that 2080 fly!
Pop cans all the way!
Haha Yep!
@@TeamMarineService can't wait to see the Lund build out
I have the 1980 i fish quite a bit in current dont under stand your obsession with the 112 min kota trolling motor the one i got moves the boat quite well with smaller one i got 2 12 inch depthfinders i aint quite good enough on depthfinders for 4 of them but got power poles jack plate and sea star hot foot boat fishes better than my stratos did faster with 3 people than my 285 was with 2 so far i am happier than i ever was with it is all i am saying but agree prices are to high for boats now
Also it is aluminum it dont sit as low in water lighter and dont take as much to move
In sweden we get to pay like that for these used lol
Whoa! Not good!
A guy is trying to sell me his for 50. He bought it f0r 57, with all of the same extras, except it has a 200 mercury
I agree and I will also say that the electronics are stupidly overpriced especially the Helix units for all the manual scrolling crap you have to do! Touch screen should be all they make anymore in my opinion but then the Solix processor is so friggin slow and freezes up so bad?!?! My new boat came pre rigged with 2 Helix 12’s 🤮
#ImissmyGarmins!!
I've been on there website and built several. You messed up on several purchases. The tandem axels comes standard on the 2080, also the straps are part of the vexus package. I've loaded my builds out and haven't went over 54,000. And also they are not all tin.
Ummmm we encourage you to give 'er another go round and report back on the final tally! 🤙🏻
Just went to the website and built the same boat and had no problems getting to 69000.🤷♂️
Own the avx2080 and wouldn't change a thing total bill 56 Garmin 93 bow to console
Closes runner up would be the xpress tin but the bow being like a fiberglass boat and the large fiberglass compartments sold me on the vexus
You can't put a bigger motor on it because the build strength isn't good enough. On a 20ft gatertrax you can put on a 250hp the pricing is probably around the same and it can be a suzuki 250ss. But but but with gatertrax it's custom and you can get it anyway you want and quality of a fiberglass. Again 250! Oh and plus you will have to call and talk to the owner to build one. If I remember you like that. Lol please call and do a gatertrax next. Tbh though only problem i have with this over under thing is going into more detail about quality. You need to watch a gatertrax build video before you do their over under. Not many tins do over 70mph but gatertrax does. Once my truck is payed off I think I'll be planning a trip to test drive one and I have a stratos 201xl now. I read down and seen someone mentioned warranty. Well gatertrax hull is lifetime. Does anyone else offer that?
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Great comment and Info Adam! We appreciate it. We will be contacting Gator Trax for sure in the future and we will add that we are definitely fans of what they've got going on.
Keith poche is not running a triton tin boat this year, he is switching to Gator Trax. Looks awesome but it looks pricey...
We'd consider that a great move on his part!
Xpress x21 next!
We are working on getting ahold of Xpress!
Jason Christie just signed on with Xpress for the 2021 season.
My buddy cracked his 2018 x21 twice already!!! Poor craftsmanship
Great boat but it’s going to be expensive! But it is more than likely worth every penny!!
You guys are awesome.
Thanks John!
1880 is where Vexus shines in the Tin market. I looked at the 1980 and 2080, really did not make financial sense going with either considering what you get for the money. My 1880 fishes great and I put some nice goodies on it for the price savings.
Interesting! What did you pay for the 1880 out the door?
I was looking at the 1880 as well with a similar build you guys are doing and I think built at 46-48k. I’ve heard nothing but great things about vexus but I decided to with a Basscat Sabre. Nothing like a 18’1 glass boat with a 175 on it.
@@TeamMarineService 2 7' bird Gn3's 1 10' Bird Gn3 on the helm, 1 Garmin 9"' and livescope and a 135 Rude HO, Victor package Ultrex I pilot, I was rite At 45k
I got my 1880 just below 30k. No graphs or poles. Took them off my old boat that was in a accident in the interstate. With a ultrex. Had a couple some problems that they fixed. Hell I just called them to ask about the new rod tie down for the co angler on the 2021 models and they sent me the part.
@@richardrawlings8770 Any issue I have had with my boat, Vexus CS has been right on it.
I would say the entirety of the bass boat industry is massively overpriced to the point that it makes it hard to get a decent boat for a decent price.
Just out of curiosity......How much would it cost to replace the transom, new gel coat, etc, etc, etc, repower, rebuild the trailer, new electronics and trolling motor on my 1996 CHAMP 202?
Ok, I will just rebuild it. 72k for a tin can, dumb.
Totally agree and I like the vexus but they are over priced for a tin boat I agree 47 fully rigged with a 225 👍
people will always throw shade on what they can’t afford. However if you have ever drove one or don’t own one you’ll never understand. The comments crack me up
You're correct, we say the same thing about Champions!
Want to know why it can only hold a 200? Straight from my rep at Vexus: Could not get them to pass the coast guard hull certification. same reason why the 1980s only get a 150 and the 1880s get a 115.
Great info! Thanks buddy!
Do you think that speaks to the durability or longevity then?
I can get a BassCat Sabre FTD SP with all the accessories I want for $54000. Sorry...no brainer!!!
Yes it's a 18 footer, but I want best bang for buck boat.
Plus I think it's gonna fit in my garage.
Please add bottom and side wall material thickness in comparison, I think you will find a huge difference
Something is definitely not accurate with that price. I have a 2021 AVX2080 with a 112lb ultrex that they will add. I have lowrance TI2 on both bow and consol and I did have poles already. I payed 52k out the door. I love my Vexus. 200HP runs 66-67mph. You need to drive one as it rides nothing like an aluminum boat. It rides better than my buddies X21 Xpress.
Sure the prices are always cheaper then on the website but we encourage you to hop on their sight and price it out
@@TeamMarineService i just feel these videos do a disservice to boat sales if the prices are not realistic. I like your videos but your going to turn people off from checking out various boat manufacturers. Reach out to a dealer and have them price it to you and get an accurate price. If you give the dealer a shout out im sure they will work with you.
We understand where you're coming from, but let's hold the manufacturers a little more accountable for what's on their websites and for what they're producing. As for calling dealers we ran into the problem of big price discrepancies around the country for the same rig so we will continue to either go off of their websites or even better call them directly for pricing.
@@TeamMarineService i can understand that. I like the thought of calling the manufacturer directly. I really do like the comparison videos. I would like to see you demo the boats after your done with the price videos to see what value to the dollar you actually get.
@@biggernumber2715 That's a great idea!! We will have to get around to that this spring.
Wow, I’ve actually have seen one at the ramp and thought... if I ever buy a new one, might be one of those. I guess that wiring in my brain where I think “Tin Rig” I think “affordable” was dead wrong... Bet that dude I saw looked at my junky ol’ NAtro and thought... wonder what his boat payment is... I should get a personalized trailer plate the says (PAIDFOE)
Cant wait to see charger boat over under
This is gonna be a insteresting one
Thumbs up!
I know you will probably do Xpress, Ranger, Crestliner, etc........could you please do Gator Trax and Havoc? Look at the gauge aluminum and what they say?
Lot of money for aluminum boat. Plus what would be the life expectancy on this boat? Keep it up!
We are wondering the same thing...how long before it cracks do you think?
Gator Trax and never look back!
@@TeamMarineService No idea. Doubt it would be near glass with all that weight. Looking forward to more over under reviews!
You should look at a ranger 198p. They start at about 38000 and that's with just a 150. All bass boats are over priced. Its gotten to where you have to be super rich just to go tournament fishing and some what well off just to go fun fishing. Its ridiculous.
Got my 2020 1880 with 2 helix 9s and am ultrex 80 for under 40k brand new. I will say that 68k is expensive, especially if you look at the zxr from skeeter, but you do need to ride in one.
Express and Pro V Lund Bass
Both are gonna happen!
and Avid
As much as I like a tin boat, I just don't see $70k. Gonna enjoy this over/under series though. 🤘
$70k is a lot for glass or tin!
I payed $49,900 for my 2021 2080. Out the door at like 52 or 53 with taxes. Only difference was I have 2 Lowrance TI2 and I had poles already. But exactly the same options otherwise.
@@biggernumber2715 Awesome, what dealer did you go through?
@@TeamMarineService Toho Marine in St. Cloud Fl.
@@biggernumber2715 Johnny, I bought my 2021 with two 10” helix and a 10” garmin with panoptics as well as 2 power pole blades for $57k out the door. Also an ultrex trolling motor and the victor package. 72 Marine Sales in Elberton, GA
Little ECU tuning and that 200SHO can be a 300SHO 👀
Truth!!! Look out!
Lund pro- v bass and Crestliner mx 21 get a 250 on them. The Lund is a lot of money though. Might as well go glass for their pricing. But all boats tin or glass are over priced today
Why didn't you guys build this boat with the Suzuki DF200ATLRSS3? I thought you all were Suzuki fan boys! ;-)
According to the internet (I say that so that you take this as "facts" that have come from the internet). The AVX 2080 is rated for a max 200 hp, thus why they wouldn't let you put a 225 on it. My question is this, the 2080 has a dry weight of 1800 lbs (obviously the more you add this goes up but for comparison sakes 1800lb). Power to weight ratio would be 1:9, sounds respectable. I wanted to compare to the vx 20 (or whatever their glass 20 footer was).... I can't find the dry weight, the engineer and racer in me would be very curious to see the comparison of a 200 tin to a 250 glass.
Just guessing based on bottom of hull design the glass boat has it by approx 10 mph. Tin rig has a flat bottom or very small pad and the glass rig is a more efficient running bottom.
I wanna see you do the new Xpress 20
Been looking forward to this
🤙🏻🤙🏻
Can you do one of these with a Caymas CX20?
You got it!
I went back and looked at this one after you just did the xpress review wondering why you were so down on this bot compared to so up on the xpress. 200 vs 250, makes sense
Fair question Justin! We never got a return phone call from Vexus. To us we feel like it's important for companies to return phone calls to customers who inquire about their boats. We understand that things happen but we tried multiple times.
@@TeamMarineService that’s crazy. I bought a tin boat from cabelas and they ordered in the wrong boat, shocker but first time buyer I’m allowed some mistakes. While trying to decide what to do, I got a call from a vexus regional manager who gave me his number and wanted me to buy a boat from them. Very long story short, bought a vexus, and my experience with the business anyway has been extraordinary. I live in Washington state so we are very very limited on boat dealers here. I do enjoy all your videos. Thanks for the reply.
Express doesn’t have a fiberglass line, so they could shoot for the moon! Vexus is trying sell the vx 20,21, so there was no way they would build a tin boat that would rival there flagship vx 20 or 21 ! An by the way ALL boats are over priced period ! They make all there money will all the add ons!!! I like the express An love what they are doing ,but the quality An ride of the Vexus is pretty good!! Remember anything that is sold An got marine or RV attached to the name you know your going to pay too much!!
I have a avid 20xb fully loaded for 58,700 out the door
Dude wait tell you price the lund I built one online it came out to like 72k. Once agin took my dreams and threw them on the ground lol 😆
Just paying for a name, lunds are junk
Ride in one you wont think "tin boat" any more.
But it is a tin boat. You can polish a turd and make it shiny but it’s still a turd. I don’t doubt they ride like no other tin boat but For that kinda money there is zero reason to not go glass. I think Tin boats have a place but not for nearly $70,000. Here in Texas at least, you can get a brand new skeeter zx200 with power poles, hydraulic jack plate, graphs and 112lb ultrex for that or really close. That’s just one for instance. Also gotta factor in resale value. Tin boats and nitros are the worst when it comes to holding value.
@@TrippyWheelz The AVX2080 is in the neighborhood or $43,000. Don't know where you get 70 from. Glass boats can be polished turds too. One reason why I still have my 1986 Ranger and it still rides better than the ones I've been in glass wise, no I'm not saying all just the ones I've been in. My Skeeter 200zx, 1994, rides ok but won't beat the ride of my ranger. So what ever. I thought the same thing about all tin boats once until I tried it. Oh that 43k price is with an ultrex and two nines, live on the bow. So even with 12s it won't be 70k. The glass VX20 might start at that but not the avx 2080.
Oh obviously I don't buy for resale.
@@darryladams519 you are talking about old boats and different models but ok, I won’t sit here and have a pillow fight with you. There is a reason the market prefers glass but go ahead and buy the coke can.
@@TrippyWheelz Pillow fight wow, you sound like the one trying to pick it. I ain't buying one no time soon glass or otherwise. Poor thing I'm sorry that my preferring to keep what I have that's paid for offends you. All I stated originally was it don't ride like any other tin boat and you opened it.
@@darryladams519 👍
Any plans to do an Under/Over on a Phoenix?
100%
Overpriced in my opinion, what do you guys think?
I thought it was going to be under for sure
His price is off. I payed 49,900 for mine. Only difference was no poles and 2 Lowrance Elite TI2. Thats not 18k for those upgrades
Do one on the Lund pro v bass
Coming soon!
Phoenix 21 PHX with a Suzuki 250 SS, Power Poles, Ultrex 112, Hummingbird and Garmins next please.
Love the way the rig looks. But so glad I'm not the only one thinking that's one hell of a price tag for something with a 200 that most people are seeing low, mid and few higher 60s. 225 or 250 on that rig, make it a 70mph+ like the Xpress and maybe folks will consider.
Great video!
Thanks Joshua!
Bet a Ranger 518 with a 200 is cheaper in price and a better boat , fiberglass !!
The 518 was a good boat and still is in our opinion!
Avid 20 XB? Hopefully you'll include in your tin review series.
You got it Michael! 👍🏻
I have a avid 20xb boat
@@bluemaixma04 I'd love to hear about it. I can't afford a Gator Trax. I was sold on a AVX 1980, but 20XB looks very good. I like the thicker hull a lot. The Excel EX200 also looks interesting. Any info you can provide would be awesome. Thank you!
@@michaelstrange1519 look me up on facebook and pm when u find me and I will send u pic I have and answer any questions u have
@@TeamMarineService also curious on avid. You can't add the 225 or the bigger motor on the avid either because they couldn't pass the coast guard regulations for those hp numbers. The max is the max because the actual hull design of the boat is unstable with more hp. They need to go back to the drawing board for a 70k tin boat. Avid is cheaper and better and apparently has a 21footer coming with a 250.
The boat and every option you said is overpriced. The markup on all this is staggering.
You are spot on Charles and understand what we are trying to accomplish here. Literally everything in the industry has such a high mark up that everything is getting inflated!
@@TeamMarineService I appreciate what your doing. There is not a bit of outstanding innovation that they can claim. Even with all that is coming from Garman, Lowrance, and the rest. They are just bringing it to the Fishing public. I tell you what .They may try to justify the cost, and I mean all the manufacturers ,not just the boat builders, but they seem to want to make a killing, not just a decent profit. They will end up hurting themselves.
All boats are overpriced. I'm friends with a guy that owns a major boat company. The only reason boats sell for what they do is because we are dumb enough to pay it. That's the only reason period. He says they keep going up and up and up and the dealers keep selling out. If we want affordable boats again we must stop buying them
My question is how thick is the aluminum? Do they use foam? Do they use extruded aluminum bracing or make their own bracing out of cheap metal flat sheets? These are the questions and answers not addressed here.
You'd have to call Vexus on that....will it likely crack overtime....probably!
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I have a 17' hyper lift hull.
Add all that to a 20’ glass boat and you’d be well over 80...
Surprisingly not!
Just curious, would a more fair assessment be just valuing the "base model w/standard features"? I'm guessing all options, especially major ones (graphs, poles, etc) would run close to the same from manufacturer to manufacturer with the exception of specific "packages" for each boat line. I definitely would include max hp with each base model...thoughts?? Great series....
Our approach from the first Over / Under was to build a rig that we would want and allow us to fish competitively. We understand where you are coming from but on the same hand we are not trying sugar coat any of this pricing. 👍🏻
I feel like the better value is to get the 1980 since it's only 4" shorter than the 2080.
Needs to offer a 175hp option for it to be a better value.
No one really pays list do they?
Do gator traxs Keith poche is running one this year curious on your thoughts
Definitely over priced! Could have the nitro glass for nearly same money.
Wish would continue the glass series. Still
Lots of boats in that area for over under....charger, Caymas, Bullet, gambler, falcon, Phoenix, legend and Allison is now back with a new boat
Oh the glass series is continuing for sure!
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