Why Guilty Gear Players STRONGLY DISLIKE Sin Kiske

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  • Опубликовано: 22 ноя 2022
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    Sin has only been featured in one Guilty Gear fighting game (XRD) - even though people didn't think he was strong, slowly over time it was discovered that he was really good. What happened?
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  • @rhysframpton5216
    @rhysframpton5216 Год назад +386

    You should do one of these videos for every Strive DLC. If it's a completely new character, just make shit up. "Yeah I hated fighting Asuka in Xrd"

    • @itsyaboi1245
      @itsyaboi1245 Год назад +65

      Asuka’s f.S being +2 was complete bullshit im glad he got nerfed in Revelator

    • @connorrose_0447
      @connorrose_0447 Год назад +38

      can't believe they thought Asuka having a teleport with a hitbox being plus on whiff was a good idea

    • @sanicboi9187
      @sanicboi9187 Год назад +11

      The fact he had a full screen reversal beam super that did 30% in chip and 70% on hit was so stupid.

    • @justafanboy3968
      @justafanboy3968 Год назад +6

      plus the 30% extra damage against Sol and emotional damage made it a dumby 9-1 matchup, ya know what 10-0 fight me.

    • @tabkg5802
      @tabkg5802 Год назад +2

      I can not believe that they just copipasted Asuka from Nine. Really glad that they changed his moveset in ST a bit

  • @somedude15231
    @somedude15231 Год назад +63

    A simple Guilty Gear flowchart:
    How do you feel about [insert character name]?
    Option 1: I main them
    Option 2: I hate them

    • @devsleeps54
      @devsleeps54 Год назад +2

      Me going "Why does everyone hate Leo, Slayer, and Sin"
      Also me robbing people with Leo backturn super, Slayer in general, Sin in general. "I just don't get it"

  • @notasquiremario3299
    @notasquiremario3299 Год назад +201

    bro who DON'T guilty gear players hate? like goddamn

    • @JohnnySfondi
      @JohnnySfondi Год назад +144

      their character

    • @trippersigs2248
      @trippersigs2248 Год назад +111

      Well yeah. Guilty gear players hate any character that isn't thier. Unless it's a mirror, then also fuck that character.

    • @kevingriffith6011
      @kevingriffith6011 Год назад +39

      @@JohnnySfondi "Oh, no. My character is absolute bullshit. Why do you think i play them?"

    • @LordKnightfgc
      @LordKnightfgc  Год назад +194

      you must be new around here lol

    • @LeadAntagonist
      @LeadAntagonist Год назад +9

      My characters cool, until I play as someone else, and then play against them.

  • @rasifurefodi8306
    @rasifurefodi8306 Год назад +178

    Guilty gear players just don’t like getting memed on by BEAKU DRIVAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @deckbuildercassen
    @deckbuildercassen Год назад +59

    As was written by the 7 Forefathers of Neutral, commandment no. 41, as it reads:
    "Thou shall not have a DP with a follow-up. If it is blocked, take the L"
    How times have changed...

    • @aganaom1712
      @aganaom1712 Год назад +4

      Yeah. Things changed a lot after 2002

    • @sanicboi9187
      @sanicboi9187 Год назад +1

      I don't know who said it, I think it was sajam. But there was a spot before the 2nd hit of the dp where the bot went into a neutral state.

  • @supernebula101
    @supernebula101 Год назад +45

    I really like these breakdowns that actually put the character into context, which I find a lot of "why X character is broken/weak" videos don't do. It helps so much to understand when you just add in details like "Most characters don't get to do this" "Most characters don't get this kind of reward off of this kind of move" or "Most characters are able to do this and this character can't."

  • @deathgamer89
    @deathgamer89 Год назад +14

    when is the "Why Guilty Gear Players STRONGLY DISLIKE Guilty Gear" vid coming

    • @axllomein7215
      @axllomein7215 Год назад

      I think there would be too much to cover

  • @kide9747
    @kide9747 Год назад +18

    4:12 I never knew Millia does her ggxx stance during her idle animation

    • @just_2swift
      @just_2swift Год назад

      Wow what a nice nod to the past

    • @VileGlory
      @VileGlory Год назад

      They added it in Rev 2 I believe.

  • @Giraffinator
    @Giraffinator Год назад +9

    "Who actually knows anything about Answer?" I wanna say that the two Answer players in the world are just as lost as the rest of us.

  • @xDJKerox
    @xDJKerox Год назад +11

    All GG players hate every character except their own. That's the simple answer, lol.

  • @joyhally7754
    @joyhally7754 Год назад +5

    Answer's conversion ability was crazy when he could IAD combo off of regular hit 5H. In Rev 2.1 they took that out and now he has very awkward conversions in the sense that many of his regular far range pokes only lead into either a slight frame advantage or a card setup.

    • @chimps121
      @chimps121 Год назад

      thats how most far pokes work in traditional gg

    • @joyhally7754
      @joyhally7754 Год назад +1

      @@chimps121 Yes I realized. I started out in Strive and ended up quitting it for XRD, I grew to really dislike how most hits in Strive lead to damage, while in XRD characters have more nuanced ways of pushing their advantage off of pokes and low reward hits.

  • @parisatkins32
    @parisatkins32 Год назад +11

    Strive is my first gg game I really wish I new about the series before hand cause the older games look so cool

    • @dankgothtrash
      @dankgothtrash Год назад +11

      Yup they're a lot better too. Sadly Strive gimped all of the character's movesets to make them more "accessible". Some of them for the better (Zato, Jack-O???), most of them for the worst (basically everyone else).

    • @parisatkins32
      @parisatkins32 Год назад +3

      @@dankgothtrash yeah I didn’t know about arcsys games until fighters now I see I’ve been missing out

    • @Homura.Did.Nothing.Wrong.
      @Homura.Did.Nothing.Wrong. Год назад +2

      I really recommend playin xrd when rollback comes out, it’s so fuckin fun

    • @parisatkins32
      @parisatkins32 Год назад

      @@Homura.Did.Nothing.Wrong. will it be for console?

    • @Homura.Did.Nothing.Wrong.
      @Homura.Did.Nothing.Wrong. Год назад

      @@parisatkins32 sorry, I believe the rollback update is pc only. Don’t think they have plans for rollback on console.

  • @free_playstation_2
    @free_playstation_2 Год назад +9

    I looked at Sin's hitboxes on Beak Driver and I got stunlocked
    I won't label a character I don't understand in a game I barely play "broken" or OP by any means but the sideways pine tree hitboxes look hilarious

    • @An1m0s1ty7
      @An1m0s1ty7 Год назад

      Wanna know something funny?? There are normals that both can and will snuff Beak Driver out. At least in Strive lol. If you mean Xrd, I ain't got nun to say lmao cuz I haven't played it much

    • @free_playstation_2
      @free_playstation_2 Год назад

      @@An1m0s1ty7 nah it was Xrd Beak Driver, charged Beak Driver 2nd hit is unreal

    • @An1m0s1ty7
      @An1m0s1ty7 Год назад

      @@free_playstation_2 yeah its pretty funny, even as a sin enthusiast lmao. definitely not op bc of the charge time, but its definitely really fucking funny to look at ESPECIALLY from the outside looking in

  • @aganaom1712
    @aganaom1712 Год назад +4

    Every xrd player minding their own business with "fuck it" YRC in neutral and all of a sudden they get impaled by some 5 year old screaming "BEAK DURIVAAAHHH!"

  • @FakeFlameSprite
    @FakeFlameSprite Год назад +5

    I feel bad for axl, there's only like 6-7 hours before goes from niche to entirely useless

  • @blacknerdtalks7921
    @blacknerdtalks7921 Год назад +11

    Lol Sin was doing STRIVE damage, years before STRIVE even came out. Good luck everyone😂😂

    • @Tamanegi
      @Tamanegi Год назад +1

      Slayer was the real offender in Xrd, mf was doing strive pot damage

    • @blacknerdtalks7921
      @blacknerdtalks7921 Год назад

      @@Tamanegi Slayer x Mortal Counter, not Slayer x Sharon 😂😂

  • @PixeIologist
    @PixeIologist Год назад

    Thanks for the video you're the best tournament player content creator imo I always enjoy watching you

  • @gabetorresx
    @gabetorresx Год назад

    I'm new to strive. Please do more of these 🙏

  • @7r17r1
    @7r17r1 Год назад +1

    The main weakness of his dp is that it's 1f active, so quite easy to backdash with a huge counter hit recovery on whiff
    People were basically option selecting backdash when safe jumping, which would "lose" to his own backdash but it was a relatively safe option

  • @user-cc3ef7qh1x
    @user-cc3ef7qh1x Год назад

    your guides are always so good

  • @evilded2
    @evilded2 Год назад +2

    People be like: “ohh I really want Elphelt, she’s so cool and hot! No, I’ve never played against her.”

  • @Flashlegz
    @Flashlegz Год назад

    I like the look of Strive Sin and from the looks of his moves he might be my type of character. I'd never play his Xrd version, just hate his clothes and his moves look wack too. His reveal was probably the most unhype for me, but at least his makeover makes him more appealing.

  • @Gilbot9000
    @Gilbot9000 Год назад

    I missed Xrd completely so this history lesson will help when the character releases for Strive.

  • @ZigKid3
    @ZigKid3 Год назад +2

    "Sin first came out in XRD". Technically, Sin's first debut in a CANONICAL pachinko machine game. Yes, it's CANONICAL. lmao

  • @TheJbrown60
    @TheJbrown60 Год назад

    damn he aint even out yet in strive 😭

  • @toxicsmoke194
    @toxicsmoke194 Год назад +3

    GG players hate so much they’re not gonna let a thing like objective reasoning be a deterrent

    • @axllomein7215
      @axllomein7215 Год назад

      As an Axl player I have no reasoning to be objective with.....but at least I don't play Potemkin

  • @TitaniumBeast
    @TitaniumBeast Год назад

    Sin has *two* Overdrives with utility, which is absolutely nuts. Especially when you consider that Overdrives don’t incur Tension penalties.

  • @dd-_-bbbbb
    @dd-_-bbbbb Год назад

    good vid LK

  • @themediocreking0764
    @themediocreking0764 Год назад

    Just a side not sin is not only present in xrd he was also in guilty gear 2 overture

  • @thephantazm5139
    @thephantazm5139 Год назад +2

    I am pretty sure he is more popular than unpopular

  • @darkosstrife
    @darkosstrife Год назад

    GOOD.
    I can't take a lot of what most people say seriously, they probably don't even like their own character 😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣
    Good video!

  • @jkchannel3149
    @jkchannel3149 Год назад

    I think his back dash and damage will be what make him top tier. His buttons are mediocre when people know what's up

  • @absoul112
    @absoul112 Год назад +1

    5:51 this joke has gotten old

  • @invarkul7831
    @invarkul7831 Год назад

    So it's nago 2?

    • @NeoBoneGirl
      @NeoBoneGirl Год назад

      Nah, he's Nago **ONE**. (Or Hakumen 2, if you want to get technical.)

  • @xiSnappleix
    @xiSnappleix Год назад +1

    i like him

  • @webweaver13s
    @webweaver13s Год назад

    I had instant ptsd flashbacks

  • @Shearsss
    @Shearsss Год назад

    clickbait on a technicality i'll allow it thumbs up and subscribed
    jk im already doing that and this is a comment for the algorithm keep it up LK

  • @yagami999913
    @yagami999913 Год назад

    Can't hear you over the sound of my BEAAAAAAAAAAAKU DURAIVAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH ! 🍖

  • @Darksid3c3
    @Darksid3c3 Год назад

    Compare to prenerf raven he is fine ... also his Strive theme weak compare to XRd Theme :/

  • @animaIpath
    @animaIpath Год назад

    im a Faust main so i feel like us hating every other character is fair lol

    • @NeoBoneGirl
      @NeoBoneGirl Год назад

      Not if you main him in Xrd or XX, he's been top 5 for 20 years straight till Strive broke the streak

    • @axllomein7215
      @axllomein7215 Год назад

      As an Axl main I disagree....especially after the last patch....but I pretty much hate all other characters

  • @zachstarattack7320
    @zachstarattack7320 Год назад

    great vid ❤

  • @Ohsnapkline
    @Ohsnapkline Год назад

    We don't even like our own character's what you talk'n bout?! 😏

  • @NeoBoneGirl
    @NeoBoneGirl Год назад +2

    Dawg the only time I've seen people HATE hate on Sin is if they play Potemkin or something. He gets the average amount of character hate that even chars like Potemkin and Axl get
    Elk *can* theoretically be plus, but due to its "auto tracking" property, hitting it meaty is basically next to impossible, so it's usually even. It did used to be +1 though, meaning you kinda had to IB it to try and take your turn back, and taking your turn back on IB was harder too. His mix actually got stronger than what you showed here too, if you use his multi-hitting jH like Gotenks jL (but keep that one a secret, for all us Sin players)

  • @-8h-
    @-8h- Год назад

    I hate him because he does 60% of my life on block with one long range move and I'm bad.

  • @venominonbg1740
    @venominonbg1740 Год назад

    Why Guilty Gear players strongly dislike "insert char"? Because they are a character in Guilty Gear of course

  • @BHS289
    @BHS289 Год назад

    I don’t remember any of this being in the bible

  • @yeahey5947
    @yeahey5947 Год назад

    Bruh I hate my own characters these days

  • @finallyanime
    @finallyanime Год назад

    ....xrd?

  • @malikzenon
    @malikzenon Год назад +4

    I can tell you why i dont like Sin Kiske... he shouldve just been base game instead of DLC thats why

  • @dino-arcade
    @dino-arcade Год назад +1

    Simple, because they cannot defeat Sin in XRD.

  • @pipe98A
    @pipe98A Год назад

    *millia players*

  • @ShjadeNexayre
    @ShjadeNexayre Год назад

    I don't really understand where the "GG players hate any character other than theirs" joke comes from. To me it doesn't seem any different from the other FGC groups I've seen in terms of how much like/dislike there is of other characters. The group I learned the game with back in college liked most of the cast with a few exceptions they hated fighting against, which is how it's been in most game groups I've played with.
    Like, personally? Slayer's my favorite and closest to "main" character, but I like pretty much everybody on the cast. The only character I really hate fighting in every version of GG is Eddie/Zato, and I don't enjoy matching up against Happy Chaos or Raven, but that's kinda it. Everyone else I find something fun in the matchup, even if I'm getting my ass handed to me.
    Is it just a meme or what?

    • @LordKnightfgc
      @LordKnightfgc  Год назад +1

      it's a meme but high key, out of all the franchises I have competed in (in fg), the char hate in GG is beyond anything I've seen

    • @VileGlory
      @VileGlory Год назад

      GG players didn't want Testament in Strive because they were scared he'd be just as good as he was in +R. I've never heard SF players say they didn't want Sagat or Akuma in the next SF game simply because they were good in ST.

    • @ShjadeNexayre
      @ShjadeNexayre Год назад

      @@LordKnightfgc Huh. Well, I'll take your word for it-I've never played anything but 100% casual so I'm probably just not in a competitive enough scene to see it.

    • @LordKnightfgc
      @LordKnightfgc  Год назад

      @@ShjadeNexayre yeah it's not a big deal in either context, it's just an overview of the char's previous version. Hope you enjoyed the vid 🙏🏾

    • @ShjadeNexayre
      @ShjadeNexayre Год назад

      @@LordKnightfgc For sure! Context on Xrd characters fills in a knowledge gap for me, as I've mostly played XX and Strive and kinda skipped Xrd in between. So I *definitely* don't know anything about Answer. xD

  • @serpant333
    @serpant333 Год назад

    damn guilty gear players dont like nobody

  • @fauxz3782
    @fauxz3782 Год назад

    He is Ky's son that's why I dislike him

  • @catinacafe7105
    @catinacafe7105 Год назад +2

    "Why people hate sin?"
    Well you see it's cause you got to play this thing called neutral and we know how players (especially American fgc)feel about that.

  • @leontartovsky8949
    @leontartovsky8949 Год назад

    A shame Machabo no longer plays GG competitively

  • @crimsonpotemkin
    @crimsonpotemkin Год назад

    Listen LK, you cant be already complaining about the character. He's not even out yet.

    • @LordKnightfgc
      @LordKnightfgc  Год назад +6

      I'm cool with him and am planning on trying him out. This is just a series I've been doing when DLC drops since last year.