I have absolutely no issue with using steroids. My main issue is with these bodybuilders starting their own "supplements/protein lines" and trying to sell people on them as if that is the only thing that got them to that level. If you use drugs and you're open about it then you're no issue to me.
That's it man be honest and I have no issues. Lie to me and I have a million issues. Young kids are buying supplements and using everything in the store to get big as they are fooled by the so called natty bodybuilders.
@@cobus8870 I agree. Also the fans want to see monsters, they want to see guys like mcguire and bonds hitting 500' home runs, LeBrons tearing up the court..etc. but then they all get upset whe an athlete takes steroids to bring their strength and ability to the next level... actuary the next 10 levels. Steroid should just be made legal cause we all know every single bodybuilder, football player, baseball.. etc are on or they wouldn't be able to keep up at the pro level against others that are using it.... plus the fans want to see the best possible. Steroids are everywhere now. It used to be you had to know someone that knew a guy, now you just do a search go on a forum and click a flashy banner and order anything you want
Their supplements don't say that at all. Steroids are an essential part of the professional bodybuilding scene, but diet and supplements are as essential. The most essential part of ALL is the work ethic. Giving up so much with a very slim chance of being the best. Like them or not, professional bodybuilders work very hard, every day. The mindset needed to be the best in the world is incredible. Most people criticising bodybuilders are probably drinking too much, smoking too much or eating too much.
I’ve been on Rich Piana’s natural biodynamic fair trade paleo raw diet and never felt better. My one rep max kegel squeeze went from 5 to 50 in a week.
I don’t think Jay gets enough credit. His story from start to finish is a true underdog story. So much respect for him and Ronnie. These guys are true champions.
I don't think the tren he shot up gets enough credit. It took that poor chemical lots of hard work to flow through his weak tissue and get it into shape!
Drugs alone won't make you Mr. Olympia, but at the same time you won't be Mr. Olympia without the drugs. That freakish size and leanness is not attainable naturally. I'm glad people are being more open about it. I remember like so many others when young and thinking after reading Arnold's bodybuilding books I could look like that naturally. It was disappointing to learn the drugs were necessary. After absorbing that reality, I decided never to take that step and I still looked a ton better than if I had not lifted at all. So it was all worth it without the drugs.
I read Arnold's Encyclopedia of bodybuilding religiously in my teens. Trained 2.5 to 3 hrs a day, 6 days a week. I gained a ton but never even looked like a Frank Zane. What would of been nice someone would said" This guy has a ffmi of 25 you can kind of look like this guy."instead of lying to me and telling to eat 80 eggs a day.
BUT the sad part is that everyone talks shit about bodybuilders using steroids, just because you can see it on their body but nobody said anything to other proffesional athletes in other genres of sport. I mean tour de france guys are on freacking steroids, just because they are not big doesnt mean they arent taking it. Olympic swimmers, like when the russian girl got caught and people she beat were only mili seconds behind made it so obvious that many of them take it. Shit even olympic lifters do, there is now way they can keep on breaking world records naturally... scientist even say the human body is actually getting weaker for every generation.
What I find sad about the competitive portion of it all is that steroids have become a must on the industry to compete. It should have never got to that point. Bodybuilding should be the best physical looking person without the need of drugs. It all went to shit when the competitions realized that size sells and that's why its allowed. There is no doubt these guys and gals are genetically gifted and work there ass off but I would like to see a more natural realistic look in the physique.
Steroids has a lot of benefits, particularly for muscle recovery and strength. Personally, as an athlete I use anabolic steroids to speed up recovery from intense training or injuries. They also really help in rebuilding muscle tissue and enhancing performance.
Test Enan is commonly used in hormone replacement therapy to address low testosterone levels, promoting muscle growth and improving overall well-being. Tren, on the other hand, greatly enhances muscle size and strength. Speeds up recovery from injuries as well.
Totally agree. Steroids helped me recover faster and maintain muscle mass, especially during intense training or after injury. It's amazing how they can support bone health as well, which is crucial for people with conditions like osteoporosis.
There’s no doubt to the benefits of steroids. Honestly, it has greatly impacted my life. It played a major role in achieving my desired physique. People should learn not to abuse these substances and act like they are all bad.
Hey everyone, I’m looking for reliable sources for both steroids and protein supplements. I know it’s crucial to be cautious with these, especially with steroids, so I want to make sure I’m getting them from trustworthy sources. For protein supplements, I’m also interested in recommendations for reputable brands. Any suggestions or advice on where to find safe and high quality options?
I feel like the fitness community should be more open about steroids... personal experiences provide a totally different aspect of knowledge as opposed to just reading about them.
I met Jay in person back in 2008 at the NPC Natural Ohio. By far the nicest person ive met PERIOD. Sat and talked at a demo booth after prejudging while he ate. Shows and models what a professional and LEGEND should represent for the sport and nowadays in general as a human being.
Saw Jay in a Las Vegas gym years back. He walked by me while I was on the treadmill after lifting. We looked at each other and he gave me a bro nod, which I reciprocated. I turned to my friend and we had a fan girl freak out moment. It was a good workout.
My son and I spent 3 hours in the gym talking to him my friend had a grand opening of his nutrition shop. Very very nice guy very intelligent. But thru out the entire time. Was like that no smile look mad.💪😂😂😂
They've been integral to everything except baseball since the 1960s (and some things from the 1950s). The baseball people from the 1970s eventually learned that fitness and strength (artificially supplemented and all) was a lot better than just running around taking stimulants.
At the 2008 Arnold Fitness Expo I was in line to check in to my hotel and I was behind a huge guy who was also checking in. I didn't know any names of professional bodybuilders, but I had seen enough publications on magazine stands to know that the guy I was talking to looked familiar. Our conversation was very friendly and I said to him "I think I've seen you on magazine covers before" and he responded with a smile and said " yeah, I've been on a few." He was very polite, very respectful, and not full of himself. He won a fan of me not because of his bodybuilding, but because of his humanity.
Yes he sounds really empty. He lived in a "box" and "hanged up" when somebody called with problems. No emotions what so ever. Drugs, train, food and sleep. Sounds quite empty.
Even with the gear, you need to put in an amazing amount of insane hard work with your nutrition, supplementation and training, training and more training! Gear alone will NOT make you Mr Olympia! Give these guys a break. They have to be careful with what they say about their gear use, they make their money from supplement contracts or their own supplement companies. It is what it is. I think the biggest problem with fitness these days isn't who's taking gear or not, but these FAKE IG so called fitness models coning people out of their money with their BS touched up photos and zero fitness knowledge.
Man the chicks on there got my girlfriend's head fkd ALL the way up🤨 she think she can just wake up and be sexy...I'm like " you know to get a real ass, abs, and legs like that you gotta work for it" can't get her to pick up a 10 lbs dumbbell but she'll carry around a 45 lbs purse full of makeup😤 I think I'ma leave her, sorry for the rant .....you hit a nerve 🤣
It is what it is - at the top level, you have to do everything. The work, the diet, the steroids, the other substance regimens. The whole picture can be looked at. The answer that it's just the steroids is wrong, just as downplaying them is wrong - their contribution is enormous. What people don't like to hear, though, is "yeah, that guy took roids, but if he was natural, he'd still be 10x what you are, even if he wouldn't be professionally competitive".
Always honest and I’ve never heard Jay talk shit about anybody. His mom taught him right. If you have nothing nice to say say nothing. Thanks Mark for your content as well.
Honesty?!? he dodged all the questions, was hoping he would be open and transparent , give us the details about his cycles, how much test, halo, primo , insulin, gh, igf he used and how long, did he cycle off?
Idk about all that. I pulled up a video just now with photos from the contest. IMO Jay has better def in his legs and delts. Victor had better abs but Jay did have the more vacuum look. Jay's forearms are more defined. Pecs close but Jay's were wider and fuller at the top. Jay had bigger traps. Victor had wider lats i believe. That is from the first image in the video. The second image which is from the side you can clearly see better definition in Jay's legs, forearms, but the delts are almost even in this pose I wouldn't favor either but if I had to I might favor Victor for the seperation shown from mid to rear delt. Jay's Tricep is better shaped here imo. Pic 3 Victor looks like he is a bit too puffy in the upper portion of his abs. However his chest is in this pose beats Jay's no question, but that doesn't make up for the lack of def in the legs and forearms coupled with the lack of size to the traps. Pic 4 same observations as it is the same picture but now shows the calves. Victor's calves were to small in comparison to his biceps. Jay's were much closer proportioned. The angle on picture 5 shows a much better image of Victor and from this image I would say he looks better than Jay in everything above the waist. Pic 6 Jay's abs are better especially in the bottom portion. Victor's chest looks flat in this position in comparison to Jay's. Pic 7 both upper bodies are close Jay wins out due to his leg definition. Pic 8 caught at a weird time I wouldn't want to compare these as neither are in the actual pose as of yet. Here is the video do I need to keep going? ruclips.net/video/LjVKg-928kg/видео.html
I totally agree... As an amateur i had a HUGE massive fear of needles and just couldn't do it. So i trained stupid hard, limited my life, and just had tunnel vision. I was undefeated as an amateur for 5 years in 3 different weight classes against guys who probably took everything. Then once i went to USA's and "had to make a decision" to bridge that gap i took third. Then turned pro at nationals 4 months later. Its so true. A lot of it is working your ass off and being consistent.
I find pro bodybuilders who play down the role of drugs to be Disingenuous. Jay may have taken less drugs than guys today but he would not have been mr o without them.... simple as that.
charles kacirek omg god virtue signaling ur a fuckin riot like I give a fuck ...... direct quote from jay cutler “The Mr Olympias are DESTINED for greatness drugs IN or OUT aren’t going to make that person” ..... my point is No drugs aka a Natural jay cutler doesn’t touch a Ifbb stage never mind the Olympia... that is fucking disingenuous and self diluted!
when he says drugs in or out im assuming he means that if everyone was natural that he'd still be at the top. not that he would beat people naturally if they werent. thats how i took it
So much winny-ing. All he does is win, win, win...lol. But honestly, I believe Jay that today, they likely use more stuff today, except Mike O'Hearn. O'Hearn is 100% natural...lol.
So I jumped the gun and bought some gear from vwvw.steroidsmax.com which someone recommended on here. I was hesitant at first to order as it was my first time ordering any gear online. Had a lot..and I mean A LOT questions to ask, these guys always replied within the day and were more than happy to answer everything in a well written, helpful and crystal clear manner.It's really important to give customers peace and they delivered just that. I ordered test p, tren ace and anavar. The gear took under a week to arrive which is super quick considering all the delivery delays with this corona situation. Well I'm now over 5 weeks into my cycle and have made crazy gains. I've put on almost 15lbs. My strength, sense of well being, PRs, confidence..everything is through the roof
Hi Mr. Cutler, I just gotta say i was listening to your podcast of you tube " Power Bites " segment on steriods!!! It was awesome hering speak about the genetics you were gifted with and unfortunately to be one of the greatest bodybuilders, I congratulate you 100% your " No pain No Gain "workouts and eating rite is just incredible so you truly inspire me and the millions of men and women around the world. I just wanna tell you a little about myself from a youn age at 18 i just wanted to lift weights and it became apart of my daily weekly routine, i trained real hard always and then one here in long island ny were i live i was in the " maxium fitness gym " it was own by the Twillerger brothers they actually pro bodybuilders in the 90's. Well this one day i was training with my workout partner frank and we were called the " FREAKS OF NATURE BEASTS " !!!! we trained like animals and it was f......fn awesome. That day we talking with a member of the gym and we were introduced to anavar, d-ball and anadroll, Mr. Cutler i just gotta tell you i weighed abou 200lbs, in six months after i was 240lbs. Rock solid and strong as a motherf......ker !!!! I played collage ball at University of buffalo divison 1 big time school. Faster forward to 1997 the year i got invited as a walk on for a try out with new york jets well let me it was a 8 week camp i was playing middle linebacker like Brian Bosworth from Oklahoma sooners back in that time, well this is about to shock you traing in the weight room for the jets at minicamp only my 2 week in. I was being tested on strength with the bench press it was a requirement trying to make the jets, i needed to complete 40 reps of 225lbs Mr. Cutler i can't lie i just laughed a little because i broke a record in my local gym one time months be my tryout. Well get ready i through up a crazy number of 63 reps. I was going so fast i just couldn't stop then they screamed no f....fn way this dude is a f...kn sign this animal, but wait at the time i met a jet line named scott Mersereau. He put up only 51 reps with 225lbs.so he was so pissed off that a walk on player beat his record with no problem, well unfortunately a few weeks later i got injured doing a power sled drill broke the bone in my knee cap. My NFL FOOTBALL DREAM ENDED THAT DAY. the whole point of my letter to you is roids made me massive and so strong, now Mr.Cutler since 2 years ago.i had a heart attack i almost died they told me in the emergency room that night. So the moral of my story is for 2 years not i live with heart failure and take alot of medications to keep breathing, so what i am saying to you sir is, i took steriods and needed the edge to hopefully play pro football i failed because i took anabolic agents for a career in the NFL. The lord punished me for the roids and now all these years later i need to live on meds to stay alive. Thankyou Mr.Cutler, It's a honor to write to you God bless 🙏 Steven M. a k a " HAMMER"🔨
I agree 110% that drugs alone won't make you Mr. Olympia BUT just like Jay said at the beginning of the interview, you HAVE to take them to compete at the top level, so the drugs are DEFINITELY a requirement.
@@RandomRUclips123 Lol my bad, there's always gonna be haters online like that douche, that's probably all he does is try and stir people up with comments like that
Really love the honesty so many people who try to lie like everyone knows if you use steroids or not better to talk about it and educate people instead of lying constantly.
Honestly the best advice I can give anyone considering steroids is this. The gratification that comes from hard work is the results. Even if you work hard, if you take steroids, you'll look in the mirror and not know what was the steroids and what was hard work. I'd rather know that I made all the gains I see in the mirror. That builds the most mental strength - not cutting corners.
Love how people suddenly expect Jay to specifically explain the steroids he took and how to cycle them and crap lol. You don't just get someone to give you a Steroids101 course. He was honest about taking steroids, that's all there is to it.
He gave the typical douchebag pro bodybuilder response. Dorian Yates tells the whole world EXACTLY what he took down to the mg and frequency, duration, stacks, etc. The difference is this guy thinks we're all stupid. He actually thinks he's got some sort of salvageable, "clean" image to promote. But in reality he'll probably show up at the Arnold in a booth once a year to see who recognizes him.
Jay You are the MAN!! Been watching and seeing you since way back. Now my son 17yo watches ur videos and is learning a lot from you. Thank you for the information and advise. Wish you the best and God's Blessings
i can't remember the year but i think it was 2009. i could be wrong. jay looked amazing and did that quad stomp and blew everyone off the stage. i don't know if anyone knows what the hell i'm talking about.
Steroids create work ethic. When u start feeling stronger and seeing excellent results fast you are much much more motivated and have more drive. Same theory behind a high paid worker is a harder worker. If you suddenly started getting paid 50 an hour at your mcdonalds job u would have much more drive and greater work ethic.
@Successful Trucking I agree, i would feel pathetic and bad that something is doing the job for me and giving me a crutch. Luckily myself, i love lifting and dont mind waiting for results but others dont.
I’m calling bs on your comment. A lazy worker is a lazy worker no matter how much they are paid. I know several people well over 100k and they are not motivated to work. I have worked out hard for years. Always motivated. Now that i take stuff, i push harder. So, the first part of your comment is true, but the second part is not true.
@@theinneroh2587 the 2nd part is true. Go look up studies conducted on the topic where employees got significant raises that in turn increased morale and workplace productivity. Of course there will always be the odd jackass who no matter what will never put in a good effort..but for the majority of people they will. This isnt a new technique this "happy worker is a hard worker" is a decades old philosophy. It works.
Okay, yes i work with and know a lot of jack a$$e$. I still think your analogy is flawed. I’d say some people will be motivated. I’ve studied this as part of my masters, money doesn’t motivate everyone. So working out clean at 49 harder than damn near everyone else around me, but not seeing the results was killing my fire. Enter helping agents, progress noticeable, drive intensified. More results! Even more fire. The results drive you to clean up your diet and life.
More like, "swam in a vat full of it". Work ethic, training, and the mind will only get you to the starting line. Its the gear that gets you over the finish line.
Jake Smith lmao. So hostile. Why? Look at Bostin Lloyd. He took 10x the drugs that any pro takes and he looked like shit still. Its genetics. Not drugs. Pro bodybuilders are genetic freaks.
It's good that he's being honest about steroid use in bodybuilding, but I can't help but think he's trying to make the steroids seem less important than they actually are. I mean, world records in strength has gone through the roof since steroids became available to athletes in the late 40s or early 50s (we can't know for sure Paul Anderson was natural for example, since testosterone was actually available then, even though there was no market for it).
RobertP2000 I think honesty Is the way to decriminalize it It’s unfortunate Congress mostly Bernie sanders based the legality of steroids off don hootins lies Not medical facts
01Citytiger01 lol the American medical association thought they should be legal Let alone put in the same category as heroine Clearly the Congress/Bernie know more then doctors & we the ppl
Everyone says its not a magic pill.They are right. Its the injections that matter. Its almost as stupid as saying"NHRA drag cars run 3s now not only due to the huge fucking blower but the great drivers" RUclips is full of fucking experts.
Jake Smith If you put the huge fucking blower in your civic it won't run 3s. Well it will run *for* 3 seconds, and then explode. I think that's more or less what Jay was trying to say, there's more to it than the, err, blower. Plenty of guys at every gym using proper big man doses of anabolic steroids who couldn't even place at a natural bodybuilding show. No Jay wouldn't be anywhere near as big if he hadn't used drugs and lots of them but neither would you be anywhere near as big as him if you took those drugs too.
Eric Pele They never say they don’t help. They help push the muscles past their natural size, but people nowadays act like all you have to do is inject steroids and you wake up jacked.
@@PowerliftingNstuff Get real when you take drugs your test is 1000 higher building muscle is easy if you train everyday .If your don't take drugs you will over train and get smaller .(FACT).
Listen, yes the steroids don’t make a “champion” the work ethic does. But but but, without steroids none of these guys would of continued with the work ethic and passion, period.
Why? You think they would have just given up on the thing they love most and are most passionate about in the world, just because they have 20kgs less lean muscle, and only weigh 100kgs shredded instead of 120?
ryan bedwell Well, these bodybuilders train at least 3 times a day 5-6 days a week and to train at such a frequency they’re gonna have to recover as quickly as possible. That’s where the steroids kick in. Of course they work very hard but the steroids play a huge part too. The average man isn’t gonna train 2 times a day let alone 3 at the intensity of a pro bodybuilder.😉
@FichDich InDemArsch 😂 I think you’ve misunderstood my comment. 20kgs is night and day! “20 kgs here and there?” Do you know how long it would even take to build 20kgs of lean muscle while on steroids? Still years. How many people do you know who weigh 100kg? Probably a couple. How many at 120? (Lean) I’m tipping none.
@FichDich InDemArsch 20kgs of lean muscle in a year id say impossible. Not 20kgs of weight. 20kgs of muscle mass. Regardless. My point is people at the peak of their sport do it coz they love it. Then they want to win and they can’t win without the gear obviously. Just like saying “lance Armstrong wouldn’t ride bikes without being able to juice.” He loved riding that damn bike so he’s gonna do it juice or not
In 2007 when i started training i thought Jay got that size from only Cell Tech and Nitro Tech. I didn´t even know that Steriods existed back then. Pretty funny how little you know at the beginning. Nowadays it seems like everyone knows about the drug aspect, even 15 year olds. Fucked up!
Knowledge is never a bad thing. It's better to have young kids knowing what's going on in this sport than having them buying these snake oil shitty supplements with their last pennies thinking they are going to grow big like a bodybuilder
Holy crap same here. I was worried about the creatine was worried thinking it (celltech) was some kind of steroid. So I never took any supplements except protein.
We met him in Spokane once, he was very polite to my teenage son telling him, " Son, train hard and diet right, it all starts in the kitchen. " Then he shot a huge hypo dermic needle of steroids into the side of his neck. I was confused.
Jay is one of my favourites with his personality and work ethic. Modest and fucking hard working bloke that is still healthy after a respectable career.
He could have had Botox and micro needling and a bunch of other stuff done. It’s not like he makes any facial expressions so you wouldn’t even be able to tell if he was smashing Botox regardless and Botox is extremely effective at winding back the clock in appearance.
Should also mention how important it is how your body reacts to the steroids. I’ve seen some horrifying side effects on people from simply running test and absolutely no side effects on some people stacking all kinds of shit.
Really enjoyed this. Thanks for posting this, Jay. Gear isn't a shortcut, nor is it 'magic'. If you don't put in the work, you'll never achieve your goals. Period.
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I have absolutely no issue with using steroids. My main issue is with these bodybuilders starting their own "supplements/protein lines" and trying to sell people on them as if that is the only thing that got them to that level. If you use drugs and you're open about it then you're no issue to me.
Exactly. If you're going to take that risk go ahead but don't lie about it.
That's it man be honest and I have no issues. Lie to me and I have a million issues. Young kids are buying supplements and using everything in the store to get big as they are fooled by the so called natty bodybuilders.
@@cobus8870 I agree. Also the fans want to see monsters, they want to see guys like mcguire and bonds hitting 500' home runs, LeBrons tearing up the court..etc. but then they all get upset whe an athlete takes steroids to bring their strength and ability to the next level... actuary the next 10 levels.
Steroid should just be made legal cause we all know every single bodybuilder, football player, baseball.. etc are on or they wouldn't be able to keep up at the pro level against others that are using it.... plus the fans want to see the best possible. Steroids are everywhere now. It used to be you had to know someone that knew a guy, now you just do a search go on a forum and click a flashy banner and order anything you want
Their supplements don't say that at all. Steroids are an essential part of the professional bodybuilding scene, but diet and supplements are as essential. The most essential part of ALL is the work ethic. Giving up so much with a very slim chance of being the best. Like them or not, professional bodybuilders work very hard, every day. The mindset needed to be the best in the world is incredible. Most people criticising bodybuilders are probably drinking too much, smoking too much or eating too much.
In the days before civilization, being stupid was deadly. We are fortunate that now it's usually just merely expensive.
Jay cutler is my favourite natural vegan crossfiter
Imagine what he would do If he took creatine.
I’ve been on Rich Piana’s natural biodynamic fair trade paleo raw diet and never felt better. My one rep max kegel squeeze went from 5 to 50 in a week.
Same
Lmao 😂
Steriods are vegan. So is cyanide, strychnine, which are all natural products
I don’t think Jay gets enough credit. His story from start to finish is a true underdog story. So much respect for him and Ronnie. These guys are true champions.
Take the STEROIDS away and let's see how "big" and "strong" you REALLY are!
ROIDERS are FAKES!
Stay natural buddy!
I don't think the tren he shot up gets enough credit. It took that poor chemical lots of hard work to flow through his weak tissue and get it into shape!
ROIDERS --> small penis & small testicles
Stay natural buddy!
He looks like he might do okay in some small competitions, keep training and keep following your dreams Jake.
Take the STEROIDS away and let's see how "big" and "strong" you REALLY are!
ROIDERS are FAKES!
Stay natural buddy!
Just imagine if he took bcaa’s. He’d be huge. Thank god he stayed natural.
Wow natural
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Hahahah ooh god 👍🤣😂
@@stan_ozolol what works for endurance ?
@@chrisorlando9993 Stanozolol aka Winstrol
Drugs alone won't make you Mr. Olympia, but at the same time you won't be Mr. Olympia without the drugs. That freakish size and leanness is not attainable naturally. I'm glad people are being more open about it. I remember like so many others when young and thinking after reading Arnold's bodybuilding books I could look like that naturally. It was disappointing to learn the drugs were necessary. After absorbing that reality, I decided never to take that step and I still looked a ton better than if I had not lifted at all. So it was all worth it without the drugs.
I read Arnold's Encyclopedia of bodybuilding religiously in my teens. Trained 2.5 to 3 hrs a day, 6 days a week. I gained a ton but never even looked like a Frank Zane. What would of been nice someone would said" This guy has a ffmi of 25 you can kind of look like this guy."instead of lying to me and telling to eat 80 eggs a day.
BUT the sad part is that everyone talks shit about bodybuilders using steroids, just because you can see it on their body but nobody said anything to other proffesional athletes in other genres of sport. I mean tour de france guys are on freacking steroids, just because they are not big doesnt mean they arent taking it. Olympic swimmers, like when the russian girl got caught and people she beat were only mili seconds behind made it so obvious that many of them take it. Shit even olympic lifters do, there is now way they can keep on breaking world records naturally... scientist even say the human body is actually getting weaker for every generation.
You missed the point.
What I find sad about the competitive portion of it all is that steroids have become a must on the industry to compete. It should have never got to that point. Bodybuilding should be the best physical looking person without the need of drugs. It all went to shit when the competitions realized that size sells and that's why its allowed. There is no doubt these guys and gals are genetically gifted and work there ass off but I would like to see a more natural realistic look in the physique.
if doesnt exist steroids the best woould still be the best
I met Jay years back , and he is a nice guy. He just want's to be treated like a normal person , and i can respect that.
yes the most important thing to remember is he's the victim in all this!
Interviewer: Which steroids have you taken?
Jay: Yes
Hahaha
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YEAH I noticed that also ....he said he dabled ...give me a break
Steroids has a lot of benefits, particularly for muscle recovery and strength. Personally, as an athlete I use anabolic steroids to speed up recovery from intense training or injuries. They also really help in rebuilding muscle tissue and enhancing performance.
Test Enan is commonly used in hormone replacement therapy to address low testosterone levels, promoting muscle growth and improving overall well-being. Tren, on the other hand, greatly enhances muscle size and strength. Speeds up recovery from injuries as well.
Totally agree. Steroids helped me recover faster and maintain muscle mass, especially during intense training or after injury. It's amazing how they can support bone health as well, which is crucial for people with conditions like osteoporosis.
There’s no doubt to the benefits of steroids. Honestly, it has greatly impacted my life. It played a major role in achieving my desired physique. People should learn not to abuse these substances and act like they are all bad.
Hey everyone, I’m looking for reliable sources for both steroids and protein supplements. I know it’s crucial to be cautious with these, especially with steroids, so I want to make sure I’m getting them from trustworthy sources. For protein supplements, I’m also interested in recommendations for reputable brands. Any suggestions or advice on where to find safe and high quality options?
Jeremyproteins is the person you want. He's the most knowledgeable about muscle-building supplements that I know.
I feel like the fitness community should be more open about steroids... personal experiences provide a totally different aspect of knowledge as opposed to just reading about them.
a - i meant reading about steroids in scientific literature, not by reading personal experiences
Dan Dusquene made it possible to talk about them.
Aidan Braat the problem is people show too much hate and discredit the person once they talk about it
Admitting steroid use means less sponsors. And this sport is already extremely expensive.
So its not going to happen.
Enzino I mean people way past their prime.. i wouldn’t expect any current Mr. Olympia contestants to admit it
And I thought all these gains were from CELL TECH.
bmx7596 😂😂😂
bmx7596 lol, he does promote them though
Dat dere celltech
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Nathan Legg he knows that. That's the source of his joke
"Don't believe everything you hear on the internet" Abraham Lincoln, 1926.
Underrated comment. You won't get much likes because they won't believe it. They think drugs is everything.
Yess
LMFAO I gotta quote you er I mean Abe
I'm stealing this one.🤣
1926 lmmfao
You play the flute?
Ron Burgundy: "I dabble".
gabe jr lmfao I died reading this lmfao
I never said that sir
You play the skin flute?
Jay cutler: I gobble
🤣😂😂
Good one
I love what you said, "Everyone is Destined for Greatness". Unfortunately most if us never find out what that is. Thank you for your inspiration
Just not destined to find out what it is you could say
I met Jay in person back in 2008 at the NPC Natural Ohio. By far the nicest person ive met PERIOD. Sat and talked at a demo booth after prejudging while he ate. Shows and models what a professional and LEGEND should represent for the sport and nowadays in general as a human being.
Saw Jay in a Las Vegas gym years back. He walked by me while I was on the treadmill after lifting. We looked at each other and he gave me a bro nod, which I reciprocated. I turned to my friend and we had a fan girl freak out moment. It was a good workout.
😂👍
This guy has never sounded happy.
Lol true
My son and I spent 3 hours in the gym talking to him my friend had a grand opening of his nutrition shop. Very very nice guy very intelligent. But thru out the entire time. Was like that no smile look mad.💪😂😂😂
Ray Ramirez maybe that’s the side effect of testosterone? 🤷♀️
Kim Lique nah I was very happy on Test. More like Tren. That’s where the term roid rage comes from. I’ll never touch that stuff again
Ramsey Bolton did you take it orally or by injection?
The drugs are absolutely integral to modern body building.
They've been integral to everything except baseball since the 1960s (and some things from the 1950s). The baseball people from the 1970s eventually learned that fitness and strength (artificially supplemented and all) was a lot better than just running around taking stimulants.
David W baseball is the top 3 of steroids lol have a read about it
At the 2008 Arnold Fitness Expo I was in line to check in to my hotel and I was behind a huge guy who was also checking in. I didn't know any names of professional bodybuilders, but I had seen enough publications on magazine stands to know that the guy I was talking to looked familiar. Our conversation was very friendly and I said to him "I think I've seen you on magazine covers before" and he responded with a smile and said " yeah, I've been on a few." He was very polite, very respectful, and not full of himself. He won a fan of me not because of his bodybuilding, but because of his humanity.
A Great Mr.Olympia not just an empty vessel like Phil Heath.
MUSCLEMORPHZ he sounds empty as fuck.
Your hate is showing.
How is Phil Heath an empty vessel? Explain yourself.
The Spy no personality
Yes he sounds really empty. He lived in a "box" and "hanged up" when somebody called with problems. No emotions what so ever. Drugs, train, food and sleep. Sounds quite empty.
Thanks for the honesty Jay, Your training videos are really great
Jay is my favorite bodybuilder ever. He seems like such a great guy.
Even with the gear, you need to put in an amazing amount of insane hard work with your nutrition, supplementation and training, training and more training! Gear alone will NOT make you Mr Olympia! Give these guys a break. They have to be careful with what they say about their gear use, they make their money from supplement contracts or their own supplement companies. It is what it is. I think the biggest problem with fitness these days isn't who's taking gear or not, but these FAKE IG so called fitness models coning people out of their money with their BS touched up photos and zero fitness knowledge.
Man the chicks on there got my girlfriend's head fkd ALL the way up🤨 she think she can just wake up and be sexy...I'm like " you know to get a real ass, abs, and legs like that you gotta work for it" can't get her to pick up a 10 lbs dumbbell but she'll carry around a 45 lbs purse full of makeup😤 I think I'ma leave her, sorry for the rant .....you hit a nerve 🤣
Update?
It is what it is - at the top level, you have to do everything. The work, the diet, the steroids, the other substance regimens. The whole picture can be looked at. The answer that it's just the steroids is wrong, just as downplaying them is wrong - their contribution is enormous.
What people don't like to hear, though, is "yeah, that guy took roids, but if he was natural, he'd still be 10x what you are, even if he wouldn't be professionally competitive".
Always honest and I’ve never heard Jay talk shit about anybody. His mom taught him right. If you have nothing nice to say say nothing. Thanks Mark for your content as well.
Jay Cutlery is my favorite natural eating utensil.
LMAO goddam
ron l Only kids and peeps with downs find that funny.
ron l i dont get it
Yeah he's my favorite too, my favorite natural vegetable eater Hahahahahahaha
hahahahahha
I like Jay, and respect his half honesty. Im pretty dam sure he knows about more than just Test and some "cutting" agents tho !!
Steve Comereski wtf is half honesty
Jaded
@@robhost4271 : Half honesty is right when he said I "dabbled" in it.
90% still is unsaid 😋
@@robhost4271 Ask a woman a question.
Love the honesty
Agenda 2030 jay has deflated since his olympia days.
Alec Otto well brother he looks great for his age and also he not taking large amounts drugs
He said he took drugs what is your point .. He worked hard as well !!
Honesty?!? he dodged all the questions, was hoping he would be open and transparent , give us the details about his cycles, how much test, halo, primo , insulin, gh, igf he used and how long, did he cycle off?
Mr La well I mean not a lot of these guys don’t give you full details about there cycles but at least he admits to taking drugs
I heard Elvis Presley once dabbled in music.
Oh, he's that movie star right? I do need to check out his music. 😂
Doctor: “Hello, Jay your mom is in the Hospital!”
Jay Cutler: Beep!
Willing Candler lmao..that’s funny.he hangs the fuck up no time for that shit right now..hahaha
🤣
No negative vibes
Just found this channel a few weeks ago. Some of the best content on RUclips IMO
ZKK Thanks
''I train my ass off, I lived in a box to become the best''
Nice words Jay!!
A box filled with steroids
@@jawn1176 end ? Take and will see how far you can get?
@@tomaszgolebiowski5321 exactly
An empty steroids box
He is full of it he takes steroids as well now he plays the victim.
most underrated mr. olympia of all time
I agree. I have been a fan of Jay's since I was a kid.
Dude WTF? Only Chris Dickerson had worse genetics. Esp his 2007 'victory' was a joke. Victor Martinez was the clear winner that year.
Idk about all that. I pulled up a video just now with photos from the contest. IMO Jay has better def in his legs and delts. Victor had better abs but Jay did have the more vacuum look. Jay's forearms are more defined. Pecs close but Jay's were wider and fuller at the top. Jay had bigger traps. Victor had wider lats i believe. That is from the first image in the video. The second image which is from the side you can clearly see better definition in Jay's legs, forearms, but the delts are almost even in this pose I wouldn't favor either but if I had to I might favor Victor for the seperation shown from mid to rear delt. Jay's Tricep is better shaped here imo. Pic 3 Victor looks like he is a bit too puffy in the upper portion of his abs. However his chest is in this pose beats Jay's no question, but that doesn't make up for the lack of def in the legs and forearms coupled with the lack of size to the traps. Pic 4 same observations as it is the same picture but now shows the calves. Victor's calves were to small in comparison to his biceps. Jay's were much closer proportioned. The angle on picture 5 shows a much better image of Victor and from this image I would say he looks better than Jay in everything above the waist. Pic 6 Jay's abs are better especially in the bottom portion. Victor's chest looks flat in this position in comparison to Jay's. Pic 7 both upper bodies are close Jay wins out due to his leg definition. Pic 8 caught at a weird time I wouldn't want to compare these as neither are in the actual pose as of yet. Here is the video do I need to keep going? ruclips.net/video/LjVKg-928kg/видео.html
I don't think he's that underrated
James Goodrum exactlyyyy, i had to show somebody that too
7:05...meditating isn't weird shit! Sitting down and breathing is the most normal thing we can do as humans.
If done the wrong way it can also open up the door to literal demons
@@calvin6879 LOL
@@barney2159 Wake up
@@calvin6879 only pussies are afraid of demons boiiii
@@sbFreakinxRican I’m a pussy then.
I totally agree... As an amateur i had a HUGE massive fear of needles and just couldn't do it. So i trained stupid hard, limited my life, and just had tunnel vision. I was undefeated as an amateur for 5 years in 3 different weight classes against guys who probably took everything. Then once i went to USA's and "had to make a decision" to bridge that gap i took third. Then turned pro at nationals 4 months later. Its so true. A lot of it is working your ass off and being consistent.
I find pro bodybuilders who play down the role of drugs to be Disingenuous. Jay may have taken less drugs than guys today but he would not have been mr o without them.... simple as that.
charles kacirek omg god virtue signaling ur a fuckin riot like I give a fuck ...... direct quote from jay cutler “The Mr Olympias are DESTINED for greatness drugs IN or OUT aren’t going to make that person” ..... my point is No drugs aka a Natural jay cutler doesn’t touch a Ifbb stage never mind the Olympia... that is fucking disingenuous and self diluted!
charles kacirek since u like pretentious name calling.... nice ad hominem attack.... virtue signaling omg that made my day!
when he says drugs in or out im assuming he means that if everyone was natural that he'd still be at the top. not that he would beat people naturally if they werent. thats how i took it
GreenGo Racing maybe...... good point.
tnm140 stfu!
Barely anything : Test , Deca, Tren, winny, eq, insulin , growth hormone
But not like guys today -!😂
HahaHaha
You ate correct but "Guys like today" do add in another 3 compounds/agents
That actually isn’t a ton
That's just dabbling homie
So much winny-ing. All he does is win, win, win...lol. But honestly, I believe Jay that today, they likely use more stuff today, except Mike O'Hearn. O'Hearn is 100% natural...lol.
We need supertraining on spotify podcasts!!
Agreeeed!
Yesss please !!!
this interview is a podcast. mark bells power project......
Cookie cutter cutler
Nile H yeah?..and im saying we need it on spotify
Really enjoyed listening to this . Jay is the man
The order of the questions are all over the place. I’m glad you interviewed Jay Cutler he has great work ethic
Jay "Dabbled in Steroids" Cutler
He put a steroid pill up his butt once and said this ia too gay for me so he remained natty for life
Jay "babbled" about steroid cutler!
Lol what a way to describe it
he took shit that made his head grow
So I jumped the gun and bought some gear from vwvw.steroidsmax.com which someone recommended on here. I was hesitant at first to order as it was my first time ordering any gear online. Had a lot..and I mean A LOT questions to ask, these guys always replied within the day and were more than happy to answer everything in a well written, helpful and crystal clear manner.It's really important to give customers peace and they delivered just that. I ordered test p, tren ace and anavar. The gear took under a week to arrive which is super quick considering all the delivery delays with this corona situation. Well I'm now over 5 weeks into my cycle and have made crazy gains. I've put on almost 15lbs. My strength, sense of well being, PRs, confidence..everything is through the roof
Mega Respect FOR JAY! One of my all time favourites.
I've never seen Cutler swearing this is great!
Hi Mr. Cutler,
I just gotta say i was listening to your podcast of you tube " Power Bites " segment on steriods!!! It was awesome hering speak about the genetics you were gifted with and unfortunately to be one of the greatest bodybuilders, I congratulate you 100% your " No pain No Gain "workouts and eating rite is just incredible so you truly inspire me and the millions of men and women around the world. I just wanna tell you a little about myself from a youn age at 18 i just wanted to lift weights and it became apart of my daily weekly routine, i trained real hard always and then one here in long island ny were i live i was in the " maxium fitness gym " it was own by the Twillerger brothers they actually pro bodybuilders in the 90's. Well this one day i was training with my workout partner frank and we were called the " FREAKS OF NATURE BEASTS " !!!! we trained like animals and it was f......fn awesome. That day we talking with a member of the gym and we were introduced to anavar, d-ball and anadroll, Mr. Cutler i just gotta tell you i weighed abou 200lbs, in six months after i was 240lbs. Rock solid and strong as a motherf......ker !!!! I played collage ball at University of buffalo divison 1 big time school. Faster forward to 1997 the year i got invited as a walk on for a try out with new york jets well let me it was a 8 week camp i was playing middle linebacker like Brian Bosworth from Oklahoma sooners back in that time, well this is about to shock you traing in the weight room for the jets at minicamp only my 2 week in. I was being tested on strength with the bench press it was a requirement trying to make the jets, i needed to complete 40 reps of 225lbs Mr. Cutler i can't lie i just laughed a little because i broke a record in my local gym one time months be my tryout. Well get ready i through up a crazy number of 63 reps. I was going so fast i just couldn't stop then they screamed no f....fn way this dude is a f...kn sign this animal, but wait at the time i met a jet line named scott Mersereau. He put up only 51 reps with 225lbs.so he was so pissed off that a walk on player beat his record with no problem, well unfortunately a few weeks later i got injured doing a power sled drill broke the bone in my knee cap. My NFL FOOTBALL DREAM ENDED THAT DAY. the whole point of my letter to you is roids made me massive and so strong, now Mr.Cutler since 2 years ago.i had a heart attack i almost died they told me in the emergency room that night. So the moral of my story is for 2 years not i live with heart failure and take alot of medications to keep breathing, so what i am saying to you sir is, i took steriods and needed the edge to hopefully play pro football i failed because i took anabolic agents for a career in the NFL. The lord punished me for the roids and now all these years later i need to live on meds to stay alive.
Thankyou Mr.Cutler,
It's a honor to write to you
God bless 🙏
Steven M. a k a " HAMMER"🔨
He speaks like peter griffin haha
he is peter at roids
Mark Bell?
Sir Ducklord “at”
Would you like an apple pie with that lol
L0l
I agree 110% that drugs alone won't make you Mr. Olympia BUT just like Jay said at the beginning of the interview, you HAVE to take them to compete at the top level, so the drugs are DEFINITELY a requirement.
Omfg no shitttttt. Dude you are saying the most obvious statement ever omfg you guys are stupid af
EverydayJay lol yes that’s obvious so why’s your point
@@RandomRUclips123 Took him a year to come up with that? 👏👏👏
@@RandomRUclips123 lol you mean my writing comprehension, sorry that wasn't directed at you (see my edit)
@@RandomRUclips123 Lol my bad, there's always gonna be haters online like that douche, that's probably all he does is try and stir people up with comments like that
He looks the least ravaged by the drug use.....genetic freak. Very impressive.
You see alot of these guys age 10 years in 5 while they prep. Insane.
yeah, no homo but he looks really good for his age and his drug abuse. when i see other old BB they lool like sht
You're insane, he looks great for his age!!
@@rickymason3762 dude i literally said the same lol
He is still taking lots of drugs u idiot
Probably still on the cycle just less intense since he doesn’t compete anymore.
Really love the honesty so many people who try to lie like everyone knows if you use steroids or not better to talk about it and educate people instead of lying constantly.
Dude is clearly highly intelligent and it only shows why he's a champion.
Jay Cutler: *Forms a cohesive thought*
Your dumbass: "dUdE iS cLeArLy HiGhLy InTelLiGeNt"
@@starmorpheus 😂😂
"You're"... Seems like you are also highly intelligent.
Honestly the best advice I can give anyone considering steroids is this. The gratification that comes from hard work is the results. Even if you work hard, if you take steroids, you'll look in the mirror and not know what was the steroids and what was hard work. I'd rather know that I made all the gains I see in the mirror. That builds the most mental strength - not cutting corners.
Keep bringing it Jay. Thank you for sharing.
"Don't bother me with negative shit" That's gold. Jay is great. It's impressive how well he got out of competition. Most dudes die.
Love how people suddenly expect Jay to specifically explain the steroids he took and how to cycle them and crap lol. You don't just get someone to give you a Steroids101 course. He was honest about taking steroids, that's all there is to it.
Yeah like we hadn't figured it out hahaha
He gave the typical douchebag pro bodybuilder response. Dorian Yates tells the whole world EXACTLY what he took down to the mg and frequency, duration, stacks, etc. The difference is this guy thinks we're all stupid. He actually thinks he's got some sort of salvageable, "clean" image to promote. But in reality he'll probably show up at the Arnold in a booth once a year to see who recognizes him.
Cutler seems like such a straight forward dude. easy to root for
Jay You are the MAN!! Been watching and seeing you since way back. Now my son 17yo watches ur videos and is learning a lot from you. Thank you for the information and advise. Wish you the best and God's Blessings
He’s probably one of the only bodybuilders who didn’t lose their hair from steroids
those guys lose their hair because of all the protein shakes. same with their balls shrinking.
Androgens do that.
I always thought his best years were with the Bears. Good arm and quick out of the pocket.
His physique was amazing and he is the guy who beats Ronnie... His arm is still huge
i can't remember the year but i think it was 2009. i could be wrong. jay looked amazing and did that quad stomp and blew everyone off the stage. i don't know if anyone knows what the hell i'm talking about.
@@bacardibum
He "beat"a depleted Ron in 07.
The stomp was legendary though,kind of like how Yates did it😉😉😉
I love listening to Jay talk about his experience and comparing it to the way things are now. It’s really insightful to see the perspective❤️❤️❤️
Jay was destined. He used to lift at my gym when he was around 19 along with Paul deMayo. He was gifted then
He was right from the beginning
yea gifted some goddamn steroids, HGH and IGF1
@@MethshockFilmsDrugs don't make you Mr. Olympia. Sorry to break that to you. Without the genes and the work ethic it's an impossibility.
One of the greatest and nicest bodybuilders of all time a living legend 😎
Steroids create work ethic. When u start feeling stronger and seeing excellent results fast you are much much more motivated and have more drive. Same theory behind a high paid worker is a harder worker. If you suddenly started getting paid 50 an hour at your mcdonalds job u would have much more drive and greater work ethic.
@Successful Trucking I agree, i would feel pathetic and bad that something is doing the job for me and giving me a crutch. Luckily myself, i love lifting and dont mind waiting for results but others dont.
@Successful Trucking Just to make sure i was agreeing with your point. I was talking about"the job" as in gaining muscle.
I’m calling bs on your comment. A lazy worker is a lazy worker no matter how much they are paid. I know several people well over 100k and they are not motivated to work. I have worked out hard for years. Always motivated. Now that i take stuff, i push harder. So, the first part of your comment is true, but the second part is not true.
@@theinneroh2587 the 2nd part is true. Go look up studies conducted on the topic where employees got significant raises that in turn increased morale and workplace productivity. Of course there will always be the odd jackass who no matter what will never put in a good effort..but for the majority of people they will. This isnt a new technique this "happy worker is a hard worker" is a decades old philosophy. It works.
Okay, yes i work with and know a lot of jack a$$e$. I still think your analogy is flawed. I’d say some people will be motivated. I’ve studied this as part of my masters, money doesn’t motivate everyone. So working out clean at 49 harder than damn near everyone else around me, but not seeing the results was killing my fire. Enter helping agents, progress noticeable, drive intensified. More results! Even more fire. The results drive you to clean up your diet and life.
he "DABBLED" in it....280lbs... LOLOLOLOL
Bo B - just a smige every now and again.
More like, "swam in a vat full of it". Work ethic, training, and the mind will only get you to the starting line. Its the gear that gets you over the finish line.
Just ramen noodles, bro...
CrackHack even though Genetics is literally 90% of it, but sure
Jake Smith lmao. So hostile. Why? Look at Bostin Lloyd. He took 10x the drugs that any pro takes and he looked like shit still. Its genetics. Not drugs. Pro bodybuilders are genetic freaks.
Great interview with a great athlete!
"The phone is off the hook, don't bother me with negative shit" 💯💪
It's good that he's being honest about steroid use in bodybuilding, but I can't help but think he's trying to make the steroids seem less important than they actually are. I mean, world records in strength has gone through the roof since steroids became available to athletes in the late 40s or early 50s (we can't know for sure Paul Anderson was natural for example, since testosterone was actually available then, even though there was no market for it).
RobertP2000 I think honesty Is the way to decriminalize it
It’s unfortunate Congress mostly Bernie sanders based the legality of steroids off don hootins lies
Not medical facts
If Bernie is a Socialist he should believe that working class people should democratically decide the legality of steroids.
01Citytiger01 lol the American medical association thought they should be legal
Let alone put in the same category as heroine
Clearly the Congress/Bernie know more then doctors & we the ppl
Everyone says its not a magic pill.They are right.
Its the injections that matter.
Its almost as stupid as saying"NHRA drag cars run 3s now not only due to the huge fucking blower but the great drivers"
RUclips is full of fucking experts.
Jake Smith
If you put the huge fucking blower in your civic it won't run 3s. Well it will run *for* 3 seconds, and then explode.
I think that's more or less what Jay was trying to say, there's more to it than the, err, blower. Plenty of guys at every gym using proper big man doses of anabolic steroids who couldn't even place at a natural bodybuilding show. No Jay wouldn't be anywhere near as big if he hadn't used drugs and lots of them but neither would you be anywhere near as big as him if you took those drugs too.
Jay is FULL of juice even as he is giving this interview😎😎
TRT. What about it?
"Getting off trends, Yeah gotta get off that trens" 7:49- 7:56 😂😂😂😂
Jay you are real and you are a gentleman. You are a decent human being and have not let bodybuilding alone define you.
"People call me with their problems, I'd just hang up on the" - Jay Cutler
worst 911 operator ever.
I hate when people say drugs don’t help! Then why take them???
Eric Pele They never say they don’t help. They help push the muscles past their natural size, but people nowadays act like all you have to do is inject steroids and you wake up jacked.
@@PowerliftingNstuff There are people who claim they just allow you to train harder.
@@PowerliftingNstuff Get real when you take drugs your test is 1000 higher building muscle is easy if you train everyday .If your don't take drugs you will over train and get smaller .(FACT).
Bullshit and more bullshit .
@@jeetsupa4362 idd huge amount clean food grow your muscle and these roids just help you out in gym.
“Dabble” 😂😂😂
Big dabble!!!
A dab'll do ya.
DABBLE MY ARSSSSS...
I still cannot believe he used the word "dabble".
He meant to say Dbol
They told him no - you can't do it.
He accomplished it.
I love it.
Jay is so raw and real in this interview “I don’t even know these fucking terms anymore “ love it
Great interview.. Straight up,, Down to earth.. Jay's a good dude..
Take the STEROIDS away and let's see how "big" and "strong" you REALLY are!
ROIDERS are FAKES!
Stay natural buddy!
6:21 - my respects to you sir
"TREN? GOTTA GET OFF THAT TREN???" *uncomfortable laugh*.
Jay is honest. I respect him for that.
“The best part was trening in the gym, like I love to tren”
Listen, yes the steroids don’t make a “champion” the work ethic does. But but but, without steroids none of these guys would of continued with the work ethic and passion, period.
Why?
You think they would have just given up on the thing they love most and are most passionate about in the world, just because they have 20kgs less lean muscle, and only weigh 100kgs shredded instead of 120?
ryan bedwell Well, these bodybuilders train at least 3 times a day 5-6 days a week and to train at such a frequency they’re gonna have to recover as quickly as possible. That’s where the steroids kick in. Of course they work very hard but the steroids play a huge part too. The average man isn’t gonna train 2 times a day let alone 3 at the intensity of a pro bodybuilder.😉
ryan bedwell yes. They wouldn’t. They wanted more and more and did a shit load of steroids. Not a testosterone shot. I mean an absolute shit ton.
@FichDich InDemArsch 😂 I think you’ve misunderstood my comment. 20kgs is night and day! “20 kgs here and there?” Do you know how long it would even take to build 20kgs of lean muscle while on steroids? Still years. How many people do you know who weigh 100kg? Probably a couple. How many at 120? (Lean) I’m tipping none.
@FichDich InDemArsch 20kgs of lean muscle in a year id say impossible. Not 20kgs of weight. 20kgs of muscle mass. Regardless. My point is people at the peak of their sport do it coz they love it. Then they want to win and they can’t win without the gear obviously. Just like saying “lance Armstrong wouldn’t ride bikes without being able to juice.” He loved riding that damn bike so he’s gonna do it juice or not
"People would call me with their problems, I'd hang up on them"
Hahaha fucking savage
In 2007 when i started training i thought Jay got that size from only Cell Tech and Nitro Tech. I didn´t even know that Steriods existed back then. Pretty funny how little you know at the beginning. Nowadays it seems like everyone knows about the drug aspect, even 15 year olds. Fucked up!
yeah back in the day people would buy magazines and wouldn't know about that aspect of the sport. There's pros and cons of this new era of information
Knowledge is never a bad thing. It's better to have young kids knowing what's going on in this sport than having them buying these snake oil shitty supplements with their last pennies thinking they are going to grow big like a bodybuilder
Its a touchy subject, because like he said, alot of people may or may not be on it but theres no amount of juice that can make you mr olympia
Holy crap same here. I was worried about the creatine was worried thinking it (celltech) was some kind of steroid. So I never took any supplements except protein.
Alexis Carvalho speak for yourself all of us 80s kids knew.
"If you masteron your fears, and sustanon your efforts, you will achieve great results". -Winstrol Churchill
We met him in Spokane once, he was very polite to my teenage son telling him, " Son, train hard and diet right, it all starts in the kitchen. " Then he shot a huge hypo dermic needle of steroids into the side of his neck. I was confused.
Best comment...ever. Jay is laughing right now
Great interview, this redeemed my view of Jay more after seeing some other documentary that left me thinking he was way too egotistical.
8:20 4 reps of collar bone snaps
Zercher squats
Incredible physic when he was at his best
pound for pound the best at avoiding questions on steroids lol
Lol
He looks like one day he will become mr universe, he has knowledge and mind for it
Jay is one of my favourites with his personality and work ethic. Modest and fucking hard working bloke that is still healthy after a respectable career.
Insane genetics. He looks so young despite all the shit he took
He could have had Botox and micro needling and a bunch of other stuff done.
It’s not like he makes any facial expressions so you wouldn’t even be able to tell if he was smashing Botox regardless and Botox is extremely effective at winding back the clock in appearance.
If you're doing steroids i dont think you should promote protein and supplements as if it's the product gaining your size 😩
He needs to be able to pay for those steroids.
Should also mention how important it is how your body reacts to the steroids. I’ve seen some horrifying side effects on people from simply running test and absolutely no side effects on some people stacking all kinds of shit.
All genetics. Every aspect of bb is genetics to begin with
I'm a Jay Cutler fan just because hes a good guy and humble when he doesn't have to .
Really enjoyed this. Thanks for posting this, Jay. Gear isn't a shortcut, nor is it 'magic'. If you don't put in the work, you'll never achieve your goals. Period.
Jay is awesome never ran away from topic just had to be careful of his endorsements
"Getting off TREN"
Jay Cutler also said in another video "you have to be a little crazy to do this" - bodybuilding, well I'm just plain crazy
Finally hearing jay drop some f bombs. Love it
Love Jay’s honesty! There is a reason Jay was the champ for those years. He dethroned the King Ronnie Coleman.
They cheated Ronnie Coleman multiple people there said the same thing they didn’t want Ronnie to break the record 9 consecutive years