“Lose All Your Testosterone” - Chris Bumstead Highlights the Danger of Steroids
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- Опубликовано: 5 июн 2024
- Patrick Bet-David and Vincent Oshana are joined by professional bodybuilder Christopher Bumstead, known by his fans as CBum, as they discuss the dark reality of steroids and testosterone replacement therapy in the world of bodybuilding.
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I'm 40, trt changed my life for the positive. I was physically depressed , not mentally. Doctors kept trying to put me on anti depression pills. Finally went to a good doctor who put me on trt. I started to be happier, cloudy mind went away, more motivated, lost a ton of weight, and blood pressure went down..
Yeah agree.... just turned 40 and been on TRT for 3 years. Depression gone, better sleep, better energy....Ive slacked here and there on lifting and I'm trying to get back on a regular schedule. Sex drive is good as well. I'm on a lower dose as well... .5ml a week...
Were you two healthy and in shape before the trt?
Theres not much difference between thinking about yourself too much and depression. Stop living a self-serving life and you'll live a more fulfilling life.
TRZt isn’t really steroids though. Is It?
@@MrEmontano08 they probably weren't lol
I lost my entire reproductive organs on a deployment in Afghanistan. I rely on TRT weekly to maintain healthy levels for my hormone therapy. It helps a lot.
Ik a guy that happened to
@@Ryan-yg7wfwhat a thing to say
Damn, that's harsh, man. Thank you for your service!
That fucking sucks brother. Im sorry that happened to you. Thanks for serving.
..welp. thank Bush.
Mad respect to Chris. Even with gear, his work ethic is second to none.
?! the comon rethoric :"Sure I m on a gear but I work my butt off at the gym!"...It's ludicrous...without the PED those guys could not sustain more than 45 minutes of intense trainning and their muscles could not recover and grow (for at least 99% of people)...Nothing against people taking roids but give us a break and don't tell us like Arnold that the Roids just count for 5% on getting the results and the rest is just hard work and comitment...
@@JohnDoe-dp4kxthe rhetoric is common because it’s true. I get where you’re coming from, truly, but I know a ton of dudes on gear that look natty, or like they don’t even train. You have to be disciplined in diet, training, and sleep when you’re on gear, same as a natty.
And if you’re being smart about it and trying to mitigate risk, you’re getting bloods done pre and post cycle, your watching your kidney values, liver values, triglycerides, lipids, blood pressure, red blood cell count, etc. you’re doing cardio every day, managing estrogen, there’s so much more that goes into it than the typical rhetoric of “he is only big cause he takes gear.” Most dudes that look insane, are putting insane amounts of work into it. Would they look the same natty? Of course not. But dudes like Chris would look better natty than 90% of enhanced dudes you see at your local gym.
Not trying to be confrontational, just my two cents
@@JohnDoe-dp4kx well not 5% i think more but there's fat power lifters, strong men competitors, Olympic lifters that lack in areas, they all use steroids and are on diets. But, none look as aestetic as Mr. Olympia. The training, knowledge, and diet make the difference. Yeah steroids help a lot but you won't become a pro body builder using and sitting on your butt eating chips and drinking soda everyday.
@@JohnDoe-dp4kxhard work and commitment is absolutely everything. Where you’re getting the notion of gear being the key source here is what’s actually ludicrous. There are plenty of people out here using and take their diet and recovery half assed and guess what? Their results look half assed as well. If gear played such a dramatic role in the world of gym culture we’d all be in the Olympia by now. Gear is not and has never been the biggest key player in bodybuilding. The sooner people understand that the better people will look and feel.
@@JohnDoe-dp4kxwhat makes you think you know more?
Started TRT in Feb at 52 when my levels were below 100 prescribed by my endocrinologist. Tested my levels on Halloween and my total was 1189, free - 181, SHBG - 34, Estrogen 104, Red and White blood cell count all within range with zero sides. I take 80mg per week and have never felt better. I do eat clean, lift heavy and walk 3 miles per day.....CONSISTANTLY. When done correctly and under a doctor's care, TRT is life changing.
Wow, I'm on 150mg a week and I'm only at 900, free - 30. Your estrogen is really high though but as long as you feel okay,
is your sperm still good on TRT how does it work on that regard
what are you taking?!?!? oO
250mg/week => 1170ng/dl
@@felixnotthecat4249 Everyone responds differently you clown. Theres no simple equation
@@wford8987 My estrogen is low, very low, 104 on a scale where the highest is 402 pg/mL per my endocrinologist and the scale, I’m comfortably in the green. I have zero belly fat and maintain around 12% BF.
You guys are stepping it up to the next level with this guest. Thank you and keep them coming.
Just eat healthy organic foods
Chirs is amazingly humble and down to earth for someone who have achieved what he achieved so far. It is impressive to see individuals like him
Thank god for people like Chris. Too many young guys are jumping on steroids or 'TRT' even though their natural test levels are fine. You can build a great natty physique, there's really no need to do gear unless you want to compete or your income relies on being
yeah yeah yeah , he used it beacame famous thats why he is invvited now its bad don't use it
@@josephkhoshghalb3962no one should have to use it if they don’t need it. And most people aren’t going to be Mr Olympia they don’t have the genetics for it. Young men don’t think about long term they think if they feel fine now while on roids they will be fine down the line which is not the case. Ronnie Coleman and Phil Hearn both didn’t use steroids until after 30 they even preach about waiting until your body has reached its natural limit and has slowed down growth.
@@josephkhoshghalb3962exactly
Same for the 17 year old kid blasting everything and now he’s rich and famous , you can’t be rich and famous as a natty
Very true. Totally agree. The ego can be a slippery slope. Keep it in check . So many youngsters with so much social media are just programmed by an image . Its not health. Training is lifelong. The enjoyment of it. Health matters more than image.
I made pretty good progress with low test. Started at 123, got to a very lean 165 before getting on trt at 27..
Respect for this man’s honesty. Refreshing.
I have noticed a lot of big influencers in the body building community are more open about their use of PED's and the risk that comes from it
Really? What did you expect him to say? Every single bodybuilder ever is on steroids
@@johnouellet4099 we know that but some dudes pretend to be natty and for beginners especially it’s very hard for them to know the difference so having the biggest face in bodybuilding rn be honest about it is big
@@johnouellet4099 Lol bullshit
Chris's father Dagwood is a very cool guy
Chris is a great ambassador for the sport and a super nice guy. Always humble since our first gym and competition days in 2014
He’s a hypocrite
@@NeiltheDealhow so? I am curious.
@@hayopbeast3079 Chris has never hurt his family before ... The only one thing that made him say that is jealousy
Cbum is the most famous bodybuilder on the planet right now awesome to see him doing interviews
I was under the impression that that honor went to Ramon Dino, but I guess they're both up there these days.
Arnold still is
@@TJ-po9ol they were the real og's
bad form(still grow hardcore), no idea what to use in terms of steroids, used 80% less kids then most kids nowadays, and they looked so much better not bloated
I only say my prayers and take my vitamins brotha!
Hulk Hogan
Yeah well, I'm all out of bubble gum....
Forgot the training my brother!
Hell yh brotha man!
"vitamins" 😂
I never really knew this guy aside from the fact that he is Mr. Olympia but boy am I so glad and surprised to listen to him say stuff about steroids and supplements exactly the way I've been seeing it. It gives that solid confirmation with a big stamp of approval. I had to rely on my intuition since there are so many information on this topic. Chris Bumstead really nailed it on this one.
I’ve been on TRT for a few years. I’m 36. If you ever have that feeling where your legs feel constantly tired, that’s what it was for me constantly. Once I got on TRT, that feeling completely disappeared. I’m not going to say motivation all of a sudden appeared, but it’s so much easier to go do something and be productive. I also gained about 20lbs since. 😄
You are on steroids
Ahahahahshshahahshhsh lol okay sure buddy
@OddManGraham yeah... he literally just admitted to that!
@@assierberhane6973I don’t understand what’s so funny?
Same feeling when you have an autoimmune disorder.. you should get an ANA test
Hearing this podcast reminds of the days I use to compete in bodybuilding (80's, early 90's). There were "underground" books that you could get to help you with acquiring knowledge on steroids, dosages, cycles, types, etc., but it was very difficult to find. It was mostly trial and error or talking to other bodybuilders who used. I remember a magazine back in the day called Muscle Media 2000 that was really good and would talk about steroids, supplements, etc. that was great.
Dan Duchaine...The UG Steroid Handbook printed on no copy paper. lol people used to xerox that entire book and share it among friends. BP also exposed the whole gay for pay thing nobody wants to talk about to this day. 👍
Bill Phillips!!! Muscle Media 2000 was the first to be honest in a good way.
Im 43. I do body weight workouts 5 to 6 days a week religiously. I surf as much as I can, probably 3 to 4 days a week for at least 3 hours a session. I eat extremely healthy. I have more energy then I know what to do with. I recommend going the natural route for as long as possible. Once you start this stuff you cant go back. Eat healthy and workout as much as possible.
🎯
Solid
Yeah its sad because thats all the industry is about short cuts. What these guys dont admit is they use these short cuts and now their bodies is jacked up.
If u never touch this stuff the human body produces all the things they need
That's great if you have the time and resources..otherwise.. trt
True that! thanks brother
36 just completed 12 weeks on TRT and I’m now just feeling the side effects and all of them positive. My levels were 320 before I started, pretty low and wasn’t feeling so hot. Low energy, low libido, slow muscle growth, weight gain, brain fog, depression etc. definitely agree if you’re 35+ and have Low T doesn’t hurt to give it a go. All my issues were corrected.
36 is too young tho
@@SWOTHDRAeh, maybe? Feel great though 🤷🏻♂️
@@SWOTHDRA theres no set age for trt. Theres teenagers that r prescribed trt at young ages because their hypogonadal. Look at steff efferding he got on it at at 18 n changdd his life . Im 30 n i just started my level was 299 and i tried for a whole year tsking natural supplements n everything but it only went up to 350 when i was do8ng everything right given the fact i had like 25 percent body fat but now im 15 pounds less , same strength way more cut n like 6 or 7 percent less body fat from just 2 months
But you’ll forever be that ..kinda sad reality
@@rockieg02 forever be what?
Around 38 I started feeling not myself. Brain fog, depression etc. I’ve had friends that were on TRT at the time. I didn’t wanna pull the trigger on it because I was competitive weightlifting and I’m a pilot but still the time, I didn’t know I could be on TRT and it was approved by the FAA. About a year ago I retired from competitive weightlifting and about 6 months ago I started TRT and Semorelin and holy shit I feel amazing. Much more clear minded, starting to lose weight around the belly, no depression, lifting has been amazing, not to mention my health insurance covers all my TRT treatments, not the peptides though.
What really blew me away is, not all health insurances will cover it, yet they’ll cover poisons going into your body to mask the symptoms, and your PC doctors won’t give them to, you because your T fall in the “normal range” but they’re fast to give you antidepressants which I poison. But I do understand why they do it.
There is no excuse for every man to not be given the option to go on TRT by his PCP if he so chooses. If a man wants to, he will do it anyway but would be forced to do it “illegally” from sources that may not be so trustworthy.
If there's anything I learned from Clash of Clans it's not to rush your town hall... Max out everything you can first otherwise you'll be chasing gains in a constant, baseline level deficit. You're putting your body in a continuous disadvantage forever in small or possibly big ways you can't fathom.
I love what chris is saying here. Reasonable and safe approach. He’s not shying away from the discussion.
Chris Bumstead is probably the *Realist* Dude in the Game. Bless Up King.
King? Cringe, bro.
He's not tho.. he's telling lots of lies and lines that he is "supposed" to say
@@TheCodyMac Why do you care if he called him a king? Don't be a douche.
Every elite bodybuilder always says they don’t take that much gear 😂 literally everyone
@TheCodyMac
Nah King, ain't nothin' cringe with callin' another Brotha King. We all Kings Bruh, meant to be tha Best We can be in whatever Endeavor We choose. So I say to You KingCody, Bless Up King.
It is absolutely PHENOMENAL to see Chris on this podcast and sharing this information with the world. Love this show and you guys get tremendous guests. Please keep up the great work!
On TRT because of a pituitary tumor, it really saved my life. Gained 60 lbs, no libido, depression, now the strongest I’ve been in 37 years
Great chat. Everything well said and on point
3:30 TRT vs Test
5:30 Start very small if you must
9:15 Supplements
Appreciate you bro
You got guys like Sam Sulek who is an absolute monster, just turned 21 and is heavily on the sauce. The guy has a massive following of teenagers on social media who are watching everything he does and copying it. I think social media is responsible for kids taking gear at a young age.
Who cares
Dude is filthy rich now
He might be filthy rich NOW but the kids he is influencing may not be. His health may be so impacted before he even hits 30 that his wealth will be spent trying to get his health back.
Just turned 21? Dang he looks 35
@Joe_Crowley he looks old as shit
@@mitchcallander2608 so what he choices
Chris is the man for being real and advising the youth!
yeah once he used it got famous , money , invited to podcast
@@josephkhoshghalb3962except no one else is like Chris bumsted.
@@josephkhoshghalb3962he's a bodybuilder idiot, the kids following not, they will take drugs for nothing, they don't compete or make money with it
Appreciate the honesty
First time I've seen your pod. And I watch many. Gained a subscriber. You are one of the few that ask all the right questions. I'm 39 years old. Been training consistently for about 11 years , by that I mean usually 5 times a week during that time. Getting harder now slightly I'm getting closer to 40, so more like 4 days a week. When you train that often and for that long you do become in tune with your body. And I have noticed I need more of a mental push to get there now. I am fairly happy with my physice and strength levels. Push myself most sessions whilst being mindfully. Nutrition is key, adequate minerals. I see many young people on test/steroids now. Don't seem to have the mental strength to go at it without untill their 40s. Trt is basically cruising for many now. I have contemplated trt. Had my levels checked and I am near the low end. I'm glad I havnt touched any yet and and still happy with performance and gains albeit getting harder. But then again it should I'm getting older. I plan on holding off on trt for as long as possible. At least untill my 40s.longer if poss. But with the research I've done I believe there will come a time where it will be beneficial health wise to jump on. I think a lot of young people only see hear and read the positives. What they want to hear really. There are so many negatives especially jumping on young. The hard work mental strength commitment and realistic expectations seems to be lacking in these young kinds. No guidence maybe. By the way body building supplement wise I can attest that Creatine does work, is healthy, not just for the muscle but for the brain, and is safe so is worth it. Protein as well but no way near as much as is pushed. One shake a day for me, mixed with flax, honey, olive oil, oats, peanut butter. People don't understand the value of a calorie. If you are overweight in any way do you really think you need more protein because you work out?.. No is the answer. And it can take an hour on the treadmill to burn a packet of crisps. So understand the value of a calorie
Cbum straight up keeping it 100% i respect that
PBD tryna get on that cycle 😂
Great to hear some honesty from a bodybuilder for once 👌
Out of highschool I was super scrawny, 6’3 & about 150 pounds. After my first cycle I was over 200. It’s a huge benefit but once you get off you lose that drive to keep working out & become super lazy. It’s great being on it but it really sucks getting off
Same experience after 14 week Primo/Test/Var cycle. Shrunk a bit afterward tho. Hardly any side effects after stopping. Guess if you’re young, bounce back is easier.
Never had any lack of motivation when I get off, you have to know that of course you are going to lose a bit of size, pump and strength, but still, if you keep training while suplementing with HCG during cycle, and then use clomid, your levels will bump back up in 2-3 months, it's all about getting through those months.
You guys are cool steroids aren’t cool if you’re on them year round
@@Givven okay well you don’t represent everyone on the planet, that was my experience so I shared it to help younger people understand. most of your gains are water weight at least in my case so it’s not even really all 100% muscle. not worth taking at all.
You have to appreciate cbum for his honesty and transparency. Congrats on the Olympia win brotha!
As a 10+ year gym goer i decided i would not take any enhancement or trt unless i was going to compete or medically needed it there's always a side effect.
lol.
There’s also a side effect to not doing it
@@Andrew-pv8oz what? I had mine tested it was on the low end of the natural limit i still have made good gains at the gym in strength and size compared to the average person, there are lifestyle changes i can make to improve my testosterone levels but ultimately i wouldn't want to be on the high end of the natural limit, i would take TRT if it was medically recommended but for now that not something i want to add into my like
Yeah if you have low trt. Mine is really high naturally but if you have weak genes then sure you gotta hit the needle
Very educative, thanks to you both
You can tell just how honest Chris is!!!! Just a real genuine guy! Love it
7:15 “There’s a lot more to say about that than just taking more drugs” well said Chris 👏🏼
TRT is amazing. But if the supply runs out. It’ll be bad bad news
That’s why I’m reluctant to go back on, it’s for life when you start
Chris is such a classy, great dude, hes an amazing ambassador for bodybuilding.
I’m 42, forgot which pro I heard say it’s not worth it unless you’re one of the top pros and even then it doesn’t pay as much as other less risky sports. luckily was a hardcore bodybuilding fan and understood the risk, knew being a pro wasn’t my long term career plan and made the choice to stay natural. All my buddies that did cycles are fat or weak or need trt. I’m still close to the same weight, look and strength as my prime in my early twenties. Everything still in good working order if you get me
Same here at age 40 ,played the long game training and it paid off.i had friends who juiced and they had gyno and all sorts of problems
Im 36 ive never had my test checked or anything. I eat steak and eggs every day i sleep alot. I work full-time with two kids. I lift weights every day and train kick boxing . I feel great.
Cool story , now add a shot of 250mg pure testosterone to that
Mad respect for the honesty, doesn't take any shine away from him and he's doing right by this generation of men!
Thanks for sharing
Great interview
I am 57 years old, work out 3 times a week, walk 40 minutes daily, eat 5 times a week in-house cooked food, read meat 2 times a week, I am 6”1 weight 197 lbs. I don’t feel the need to take steroids or TRT, my wife is 18 years younger than me. If I go over 205 lbs and I don’t sleep well because of stress, my energy, most likely, my testosterone goes down.
How did u get a wife 18 yrs younger that’s Leonardo di caprio levels
You eat 5 times a week in house cooked food? Can you elaborate on that a bit
Yo también tengo 57 y entreno todas las semanas. Vitaminas y Omega3. No tengo problemas de libido ni de fuerza, y mi mente está clara. No estoy en TRT
High testosterone levels are extremely important for mens mental health. This is why TRT is a critical modality for men over 45.
You the man Cbum. Good on you for staying true
Chris is an all around champion! I’m a bodybuilder fanatic, and he is so right. If your schedule isn’t perfect, nutrition, recovery, workout plan, your PED regiment will not be perfect and you’ll fail.
For Males, wait until your thirty to make that decision
Years of working nights in my 20s depression and always feeling weak I checked my testosterone and it was 265. Got on trt at 32 now I’m a different person
I feel like working nights had to do a lot with it. The only time I was depressed in my life was when I worked nights- didn’t see the sun
@@mann8283that working nights shit should be banned. Instead of working nights shut the stores down for a day or two and if you forgot to get something well your shitted out luck sooner then later nobody in America is going to wanna work from lack of pay and overworking and shitty hours on top of not work balance life then we will be ducked my friend it will be nobody else’s fault but the our main people in office
You could have just fixed your sleep and you would have been fine
You shouldn't be doing trt in your 30s man. Your lifestyle was the issue. Get 8-9 hours of sleep a night, clean up your diet, be active with some weights, and have a healthy sex life. You'll see your test levels naturally skyrocket.
Derek's (MPMD) videos are a good place to start learning about the sauce.
Nah, dude fukked up his body
Love to see my LIL BRO thriving 💪
I really appreciate his honesty about taking gear
why is it called gear? thats such an odd term to me
@@randal3122 it's just slang, also gear encompasses more than roids
@@mouseyboy thats a really odd slang term
I am 50 and do TRT therapy and love it. Doctor prescribed high and test and feel great. God bless
Steroids is a helluva drug
TRT when used properly can treat PTSD better than damn near anything
I'm starting next week, I hope it helps with mine
You have to respect the honesty.
CBum is the real deal. Admits he has taken gear, speaks about his health struggles, advices against gear usage because well, I don’t even take gear but I’ve done my research and nah, if one wanna go on trt (not roids) then I really rather advice ppl do that. I’m not a dude tho nor am I trying to compete for Ms. Olympia, I just like following bodybuilders and learn workouts and nutrition from them to have more gains.
It took me until I was 24 to be able to hit 170lbs and have 8% BF.
Started lifting st 140lbs at 21 and 3 years of a solid diet and grinding took me that long.
The fact he owns a supplement company and openly says anything other that creatine and a protein powder it’s really necessary shows he’s a real one 👌
That’s 99% of his sales nobody buys fat burners and stuff anymore
because any moron knows hes on it
Both respect for chris and the interviewer ❤👍🏻he really asked very good questions and chris gave beautiful answers
Not a bodybuilding fan per se but Chris seems like an all around good soul. Kudos to him
I did TRT a few years ago, for insomnia, then I cycled off of it. Since then, I've gotten married and we're trying to have a child, and have been for over a year, but it's incredibly difficult as my spermcount dropped to unregisterable levels. I'm currently taking Clomid to try to bring my natural test back up and hoping for the best. I never thought I wanted kids, but here we are. Do your research. If you plan on having children, DO NOT TAKE TEST.
I'm there now. I feel so sick from the withdrawal and clomid.
Or make sperm donations before you go on TRT. I have read the same stories from guys in your situation. It's tough.
You need HCG. Sperm count will come back.
This is repairable naturally. If you are interested I can help you.
Yea sure ive been on test since i was 19 yrs old and i have 3 kids and im 35 now. Search up baby making protocol. My bro had zero sperm count and voila he has a healthy beautiful baby girl now like couple of weeks ago. Do your proper research bro!!!
I'm 39 and I've been working out since I was 26. I love my progress and physique. Did blood work to check testosterone and its 897 lmao. Eggs are the most powerful food ever specially the yolk. Eat whole eggs on their own with out carbs.
I have similar level and I eat a lot of eggs too haha. At 38yo level is high 700 - low 800, but Free T is more important, mine is at middle or so, could be better. What is you FT level. Carbs are important for recovery too, no need to avoid it too much.
Pat continues to bring interesting and valuable content.
55 and have been on trt for 6months , so far so good .
Elite genetics usually become apparent within a year of training, maybe 2 at most. I've seen many of those types over the years and within 2 years they already look better than everyone else in the gym, even guys who have been training for 20 years or more.
Just look at Vin Diesel between movies from a decade ago. As soon as he was off the juice, all his muscle disappeared within a few weeks and he had a gut. That was crazy to me, since I used to rigorously work out in my early thirties, until having kids, not so much now in my early forties. Yet, I STILL have the majority of the muscle I built in my thirties and it's never "gone away". I've never taken a steroid in my life.
Same here..been exercising since 13..im 50 now and my testosterone is checked monthly because i had my thyroid removed. TEST is 681. Which is GREAT for my age. NO roids or TRT ever.
But these guys are in the comment section talking about 1100!! And theyre 39 years old taking TRT.
Goddamm.
@@ITSWHATEVAHBYTYRFREE-wf8pd Its gross. talking about "normal" yeah normal for a fucking 20 year old, you are almost 50 bro you aren't supposed to have the T of a 20 year old lmfao.
@@ITSWHATEVAHBYTYRFREE-wf8pdincredible if true, great genetics
Spot on
once you have the muscle mass, one can workout like 1-2x a week and maintain it relatively simply!
I’ll buy anything Chris is selling for his honesty and desire to help people make a well weighed decision
Good advice Keeping it real!!
"Hardcore means it's probably harder on the body" what a scholar lol
Training, eat, recover, inject, repeat.
Eat clen, tren hard, test your limit, anavar give up.
Best info I heard so far! Fix everything first. Nutrition. Work ethic instead of druggin more! Muscle maturity over time. Good stuff!
ALWAYS best content kaka patrick!
Siss.y
Trt is an easy cop out for problems brought on by poor diet and lack of strenuous exercise. Thanks to ultra processed foods, lack of real meat dairy etc and a sedentary lifestyle. Added to that, stress and a lack of sleep.
Sometimes. But an otherwise healthy 45 year old, with a total T level below 200 ng/dl is not going to get into a normal range with altered lifestyle.
It is interesting that the worldwide drop in T levels tends to occur in lockstep with the move to service-based economies. So your point on the lack of physical activity has some data behind it. I don't know that we have enough data to pin a tag on processed foods, but my instinct agrees with yours. We just need better data - and a mechanism - to point that finger. That said, there are a ton of known reasons to avoid them. No need to wait.
I think you're right
Maybe. I started with a complete diet change. Already was a 5 day a week gym junky. A friend suggested that first. Meat/veggies-low carb/minimal processed food if any and lots of water/plenty of sleep for 2 years starting at age 32. After not improving same buddy suggested I get my T checked. I put it off and put it off but I just kept feeling run down. Got it done a few times 2 years later and clocked in between 280-320. At age 34 I finally got on TRT after my new Physician explained to me I had the testosterone levels of a 70 year old man lol. I was on it for 2 years and felt so much better after they got it up to the 600-700 range. Ended up moving and had to discontinue for about a year. Went to a Urologist through a referral. Tested again. Back down to low 300s. That was at age 37. I’m now 40. On very low dose of TRT currently 100mg a week, 2 pins of 50mg per week. Sitting roughly 500-600 2 days after pinning. Hemoglobin hasn’t been over 16 yet. For some of us…our balls stop delivering. I feel good though. Work out 6 days a week. Still going with same diet. Very few complaints for being 40 other than I’m not retired. Take care.
I will say to your post. I agree, going with a solid low carb/meat-veggie diet plus exercise is a good route to try first. That being said everything around us has chemicals that disrupt our hormones. I’m sure you can go through a normal household and find-shampoo/deodorant/body wash/hair gel/lotion/cleaning supplies/detergent/dryer sheets…I mean you name it. Scan those products with one of those apps that tell you what chemicals are in them. I would be willing to bet 90% have some negative effect on your hormone and reproduction. When’s the last time you searched your public water you shower in everyday? I have a filter on my shower head and don’t drink tap water. If I actually told friends and family that they would think I’m crazy. But your tap water has chemicals that negatively affect your hormone and reproductive system. We shower/drink/wash our dishes and clothes in it. My point being is these things are around us 24-7. Diet and exercise might not be enough. Long gone are the days of our grandparents and great grandparents where you got your water from a well-grew your own vegetables-bought meat from a local butcher and natural cleaning products.
Yeah agreed. People in the comments saying they are on trt in their 30s is ridiculous. I'd say you shouldn't be doing it until you're over 45. My test levels significantly improved just by going from 5-6 hours sleep a night to 8-9 hours.
Long term high doses of Tren is the way forward. Thanks Cbum.
No
I'm 32, and I've been on track for a little over a year now. I'm NEVER coming off. It is amazing.
I'm glad you had Chris on.
Where can I purchase testosterone online
Ive been using trt from this online company called prestige pharma store for the last 6 months....great results.
Thanks I will be sure to check them out
@@kdotlife4308 what's the link?
@@getsetbrah8798just type in prestige pharma store it will come up
When you start TRT you better never go broke. Your body can and will stop making natural testosterone at all.
Yup
Depends. I'm on clomid, 12.5 mg a day, and if I stop, my test levels don't crash because clomid actually forces your body to produce more natural testosterone.
My balls got real small and I lost hair. But when I stopped cold turkey after 2 months everything went back to normal even my drive. I was only on it for 8 months though. Um I didn't workout at all and one day after a shower I looked in the mirror and I looked like a marvel super hero not lying. I had a huge upside down / triangular shaped upper body with popping shoulders ,traps arms, and a tapered waist.
Balls will shrink but they’ll go back to normal after a month. Depending on how long you use it. I’ve known ppl to do it for a year on TRT. Stopped and later had T’s checked. It was still higher than before they took TRT.
@@kitjones6896did your hair come back?
There is anything I should do or take to get better?
I respect him so much for having all these different kinds of guests on!!❤
Feels like this was filmed in a vending machine 😂
I'm doing trt and it changed me life. Talk to a doctor who specializes in trt don't listen to people online
yeah people are crazy
Can anyone tell me where I can purchase testosterone online?
I always thought about doing 2 cycles and keeping the gains but now I feel like it’s not really worth it, the risks are just too high.
I’m on Masteron, 500mg of Test C a week, tren, deca and primo and it’s great. My pickleball performance has never been better.
I was feeling tired after those vaxxes for 18 months and had my test checked, and my doc said I was on the lower end and I asked about trt and he didn’t recommend it however he is a general practitioner and I trust him. Though I’m still curious. But I’m not tired anymore after I bought a sauna.
Most PCM’s try to stay clear. They believe it’s you mentally or it’s part of aging. Some believe you want it cause you heard about it. Go to a specialist and get your T checked.
On trt now for a year it got rid of my migraine which my neurologist couldn't do.
Also helped me gain some muscle and a little more zest for life
I start trt next week and suffer from bad daily migraines... did it take your headaches away quickly?Or take some time
long overdue , but glad this is being spoken about !
Pat’s a master at getting people to admit things they’re clearly not comfortable talking about. 👍🏼👍🏼
Hes talked about this a million times lol
@anthonywiktor8669 nope!
he’s getting old, so i think he’s interested to get back be strong but maybe he is just sponsoring the product.
Right now I don't have any testosterone on my body, none. Have tumor on my brain that's turning me into a very old man and I'm fighting to get this surgery.
🙏 🌹 🙏
Prayers❤
Be well brother!
🙏❤️😞
This is the best conversation on steroids and hormone replacement I've heard. Good stuff guys.
TRT and HRT for 3 years….. i will never stop❤️
Even TRT should be a LAST resort, because once u start u can NEVER stop!!
u cant stop whenever u want buddy get educated before u talk
@@yGcH7 I am and unfortunately ur not.
bro hasnt heard of a pct xD@@ImpalaSS08
I'm on clomid, 12.5 mg a day and it works well. Before that, I was on 125 mg of test a week but with clomid, I have fewer side effects and I don't have to inject.
Clomid huh? Imma research that
Chlomid doesn’t actually do anything for test levels besides test results
@@Stierenkloot I've heard that theory before. Luckily I've used both testosterone (for over 5 years) and clomid so I can make a good comparison. Clomid definitely boosts my libido and energy without raising my blood pressure and hematocrit. Clomid also boosts spermcount, while exogenous testosterone lowers it. Not saying it's for everyone but it could be a viable alternative for testosterone. There are several articles online about this issue.
Clomid long term is bad for your eyesight, take care test is much safer
@@clifton6919 it did nothing for me
As a 47-year-old woman, hormone replacement therapy (HRT) has significantly restored my vitality and overall well-being, including my drive and motivation. Previously, I was prescribed various medications for anxiety, hypertension, depression, and weight management, all of which proved ineffective. In my frustration, I decided to educate myself extensively on the subject of hormones. The results were nothing short of transformative, akin to winning a substantial prize. I am now free of all medications, my weight is returning to levels reminiscent of my teenage years, and I am flourishing. HRT can be remarkably beneficial for women over the age of 35. It is advisable to have your hormone levels assessed, and for younger women, establishing a hormonal baseline can be invaluable for future health. 💪🏼💖
35 here, been active/working out since 15. 180lbs 6 feet tall. Started at 230lbs then when i hit 22, i dropped to 180 and been that way ever since. No drugs/peds/trt, it can be done if you put in the work and adapt a healthy lifestyle.
WHAT?!!??! Cbum isn't natty? But honestly, one of my favorite body builders and nicest all around dudes.
No one who is IFBB or Olympia is natural lol cmon bro
Trained super hard in the 80s. Lots of juicers at the gyms, and I watched a dozen die over the years. Terrible cost to be the biggest guy at the beach.
I’m 42. TRT changed my life for the better.
Need to have Chris and MPMD on a podcast that could be amazing.