Charge at home, its cleaner, safer, and just like having a cell phone on wheels. Most people even out of spec people dc fast charge less than 15% of their miles
The key is understanding and planning. I did an out of season road trip to Alaska in a Subaru 20 years ago. I did the research so I would know what I could expect. I planned for various scenarios. I had issues, but the trip (and our lives) was not impacted seriously. Knowing that the car needs to get to a certain point just to start charging is one item that is not as well known as it needs to be. OEMs (and dealers when there is one) need to educate drivers more than they do currently. Same goes for those renting EVs. There was a time when a driver was expected to know more about the vehicle then currently. I remember when you could not count on an open station within 100 miles of any arbitrary location. I once need to wait for the station I found to open, and this was on the Interstate in North Carolina. Tom at State of Charge did a test after the winter weather event on the East Coast. You have a video on what to do if you find yourself low on charge. I think a specific video on how to maintain enough heat while reducing your consumption would be useful. Discuss reasonable prep for cold weather driving. If you have extra blankets in the car, you can lower the cabin temp (or turn that off) and use the seat heater. Also, I think a guide to using Plugshare, or the car's nav, to find the closest charger of any kind can help with the SHTF, now what do I do situation. Finally, I also think it would be useful to describe the EV equivalent of a jerry can. There are now portable power stations that can be used to directly charge an EV (they can also provide backup for your house so not single use). It will not be as fast as a jerry can, but you can avoid the tow. Ford F-150 with their on-board power doesn't even need the extra device, just a portable charger when all drivers should have just in case.
January 20, 1985 I was delivering pizzas in Indianapolis. -20° F weather -51° F windchill factor in deep snow. I delivered pizza all night in my 1965 Mustang for Pizza Barn. Progress is wonderful!
a guy I know has a the Bolt and he did an at home test in the winter and let only certain things he'd use ie: heater/fan, seats and I think the heating steering. After about an hour of just running those things, he lost about a battery bar worth of power. The downside of gas powered is your heat can drop some as there is no engine pressure build up to keep the coolant good and warm.
Did I hear you correctly, Mark, that the 2022/23 Bolt EV does not do battery pre-conditioning, whether while plugged in at home or while being driven, in cold weather?
Certainly, the situation in Chicago needs to discussed, analyzed, and addressed. However, the glib statements that ICE vehicles can always fill up without fail is simply not true. A few years ago, Colonial Pipeline was hacked and there were many ICE vehicles and their drivers stranded. For many days. Fossil fuel is dependent on a long, complex process, each step of the way can impact whether there is fuel at the pump, and most certainly the price. Hurricanes, tornadoes, wildfires, earthquakes, floods, and other natural events can impact whether ICE vehicles can get their fuel. But as per usual, the ICE advocates gloss over these events and blissfully and incorrectly say there’s NEVER an issue with getting fuel in their tank. Yes, there maybe some adjustments at this time if one has an EV in extreme weather. This is not unique - people have to make adjustments to many natural events. This is a fact of life. People in Chicago have to dig out winter clothes, bundle up, deal with school closures, forgo pleasure driving and more during extreme cold weather. So, yeah, arctic blasts and extreme cold are impactful in many aspects of life. People adjust. Life goes on.
Home charging was less of an issue in Chicago. These were commercial Uber drivers who had to charge several times on the road throughout the day. Glad the ICE drivers were making money in this cold winter! 😂
I have a stupid question. Does preconditioning your vehicle while it is charging from your home, how much does that increase your electric bill? What is that impact on your bill?
How much bill increases is impossible to know without knowing cost per kWh. It will cost more, for sure. If you add an additional 20 minutes to a charge session that normally takes 5 hours, then that is an additional 7% cost, assuming per kWh rate is the same for entire charge time.
Great point max, departure scheduling will also increase the actual effiency once you drive we only lose 4% of range her in Atlanta and yday and today the low temps were 12 degrees and this morning 21 degrees. Its all a nothing burger.
I love how anti ev people pick the one or 2 days of extreme cold to denounce EVs. how often is it below 0? Most Americans, its less than a few days/year. just plan and deal with it for that 1 - 5 days.
FYI in Calgary, Alberta recently gas pumps froze, cold weather affects eveything. In BC, my F150 with a brand new 12v battery would not start, my sons Honda Accord would not start, etc ruclips.net/video/GQjsmRIlb2I/видео.html
So I recently bought a 2019 rwd model 3, it had 50k miles, I got it for a great price and it already had fsd. Now, I live in an apartment complex and I’m in upstate ny, I will say that it has been kind of disappointing. Before I bought it I watched videos on Tesla for about a year. I swear it’s all I would do in my spare time and I heard people say you lose a little range in the cold but so far my experience is I’m loosing half of my range. It essentially goes down a percent for every mile I drive and because it’s 2019 and doesn’t have lfp I only charge it to 80%. I realize that the issue with taking about ev is everyone’s case will be different, I’m sure my battery has some degradation compared to if I bought one new.
@@steezytrey yeah thats makes a difference, also if u charge at home and precondition while charger is connected then ur battery will warm up using homecharger instead of sacrificing range to warm up the car. U should notice a significant improvement. On cold days it can take 1hr. Also set departure times it will precondition by that time.
@@sfresh92 see that’s my biggest issue I Iive in an apartment complex, it has chargers but the they charge idle fees If the vehicle is left there after it’s charge
Lets face it, evs are much more difficult to deal with in cold weather especially if you cannot charge at home. There really should be no debate over this issue. We can hype evs all we want but facts are facts. Fortunately I live in Florida so its a non issue for me but If I lived in a cold climate, was still working and couldnt charge at home I would have to think long and hard about my choice of transportation. Btw, I have a 22 Bolt EV. My home charger is an old areoenvironment that I used with my Volt. I rarely dcfc so the basic ev works well for me.
No debate needed? Are you out of your mind? Cold weather BEV use should absolutely a consideration for those who live in cold winter climes. They basically lose about 1/2 their range in cold weather due to cabin heat and also battery chemistry. Many don’t have home charging so they can’t precondition.
Extreme subzero temperatures are…you know extreme and not often encountered by most people. On those rare occasions they do most prudent people stay closer to home and avoid long road trips no matter what powers their vehicle. Keep in mind I said most prudent people.
I hate to say it but I think Toyota was right in a way. I think a day will come when real home charging will exist for apartment dwellers. (Realistically only some states mandate leasing companies allowing tenants to buy their own charger… but upgrading anything at a home you don’t own is not something most people will do). I think hybrid , but not Prius type hybrids , but basically BEV with range extender engines that are not connected to the wheels in anyway. That way people will can use them as bev trainers. They will see and hear that they are driving on batteries. And know when the gas engine is charging. That way they aren’t just using my the car like it’s just an efficient ICE powered car like most hybrids are. (Surveys show most phev owners gas more than charge. These will be a gap vehicle to train people to charge first and gas as a backup. At least until fast charging networks catch up. (And at least some apartment home charging truly becomes available )
Evs are way better you can "idle" them for hours without any wear on the "engine" or any other drive components. Try ideling your ice vehicle for 30 min everyday in the winter to warm up the interior, that after a few years will "wear" out the ice engine making it even more costly. So perfect yes, superior in everyway except, the sound, I love a great v8 rumble, but its not intelligent.
Until and unless you have Level 2 home charging and can pre-condition your vehicle, BEV suck in very cold weather. This coming from someone with eleven years of experience. Advantages: car can warm quickly Disadvantages: loss of range from heating cabin and loss of range just driving. Figure your driving range will be cut in 1/2, so a Model Y with 289 miles at 100% SOC will only be able to drive about 140 miles with heat on. Those are the facts. Cold weather does not affect modern ICE vehicles near as much as a BEV. Internal combustion in and of itself creates heat and that’s a HUGE advantage. Remote start available in most UCE cars from factory or aftermarket makes the ICE even more convenient. Let’s add the issue of inability to Direct Current fast charge ( DC fast charge) in very cold weather or cold soaked vehicles and it’s yet another strike against BEV in cold weather environments.
Teslas are the best selling cars in Finland, Norway, and Sweden, where the winters are extremely cold, don't see many complaints and Teslas keep selling. Also in extremely cold temps, ice vehicles lose a ton of range, idling for 20 or 30 minutes to reach a decent operating temp / "warm up" . On the freeways both in stop n go traffic and high speed your ice vehicle loses a ton of range. gas pumps don't work when the grid is down, sometimes gas pumps freeze up or are out of order, or gas stations are closed or crowded. EVs are just much cheaper to operate, maintain and repair. lots fewer parts.
I know that many people like it, and fall for what Chevy and those wanting to delay the transition want, but the end of the Bolt is great for the EV revolution. It's main goal was to clog up fast DC charging stations and frustrate those waiting to charge, and therefore, keep potential customers away from making the switch to EVs. Their latest attempt at making their EV delay plans work was to sell it to ride share fleets knowing the drivers are clueless about EVs and they need to charge at fast DC stations. Congratulations GM. It's finally working.
Frsncie, at your house anyone can charge your car, unless you have no electrcity. Everone has 120 volt plugs and worst case extension cords. People generally dont road trip everyday. Ice cars are old tech, and if not exotics, just dumb
With a standard outlet in the US, you are only going to charge at 1.44 kW (120V x 12A), which means 43 hours to charge a 60 kWh battery in a Model 3/Y Standard Range.
@@amosbatto3051 If you only use 15 kWh a day (45 miles at 3 miles/kWh efficiency), and plug into 120 V every night (say, 13 hour dwell time), then you can recover that range overnight. If you use the entire battery every day, then you certainly need L2 charging.
@amosbatto3051 Yes that is assuming one uses the entire range of the ev each day, can you imagine the mileage driven in your example let's say 240 miles of range × 300 days in a year that would equal 72,000 miles a year. People that talk or write this no sense of range don't drive electric. The avg American drives 14k miles per year divide that by 300 days, yes I know a year has 364/365 days, but use 300 ÷14,000= 47 miles a day at 1.2kwh that is 4.65 miles per hour × 11 hours charging level 1 = 51.5 miles more than enough, now divide the 14k by 335 days and your daily avg is 42 miles. Many people do not even drive that much.
Of course in our home we have 4 evs and 3 level 2 chargers, evse, running 80 amp for one evse and 2 at 40amps, we usually step them down to 32 amps so we can't drive enough to be out of range ever. We have 62 solar panels and 4 tesla powerwalls and doing an upgrade to add 6 more powerwalls to have 10, freedom is awesome. The last time I pumped gas was 12-28-2021 in a rental car, for a personal car our 1968 caddy Deville 472 v8 last summer. Getting ready to switch that beast next winter to ev.
Most apartments I’ve lived, where I parked was not safely close enough to my apartment to run an extension cord to. (And any outside outlet the would pull from the leasing companies $$ so that was out. Again not saying this wouldn’t work for a small percentage of people but proposing this as THE answer isn’t fair. And is dubious if you really want the conversion to work. People like their ice cars. Making converting a chore is how we get stuck on ice forever
Evs do not come at a premium, not at all Francie, How comfortable are you with recalla, and taking your car in for service, oil.changes all takes time, so think about it. An avg oil change takes from driving home, to the oil.change place, then waiting and driving home is about 1 to 2 hours, 4 times a year, plus driving to and fro getting gas totalsanother 6 hours makes more time wasted driving ice vs ev. Your always looking at the 1% case look at the 99% case, this just shows necause you dont drive electric been doing it here in Atlanta since 2012 when networks were sparse and ranges were lower. Sack up ask Lyle for an ev
I make the trip to get my oil changed coincide when we go pick up our groceries. They're done in about 1/2 hour....45 minutes if they rotate the tires. While waiting, I find my salesperson and have a chat (kinda like when EV owners on the road have to wait to charge). I never make a trip just to have the oil changed.......that would be kinda stupid. I stop for gas as I'm leaving on a trip to.......anywhere, and I'm done, completely, in less than 5 minutes. Quit drinkin' the Koolaid. It's unbecoming.
@papadave9061 You prove my point, you have to plan to do all those things. Drink the Kool aid? Lol. We have a 3 car garage with 4 power walls and 62 solar panels. We have 2 clipper creek 48amp evse and a dual dispenser 80amp evse. So here goes our planning. We open the garage park and as you head inside you plug in the car, then open the door and live your life. The panels and power walls power the 4 evs, and cover all the power for the home. Just to make you hot and bothered we are installing 6 more powerwalls for storage that way we can be off the grid. Then we have charging at both our beach condo and lake house. All 4 evs can make it to the lake house, 3 of them can make it to the beach, so guess what for 99.75% of our trips we don't need any help whatsoever. The only time we do is when we rent a car when we go to Cali, NY, Miami. Other than that unlike you my family is in full.control of our driving, gas price spike, no worries, power out, no orries. Plus it's cleaner, no dirty gas handles, safer-no gas fumes when pumping or around the gas dispensers. Safer no car jacking etc. I prefer as much control of my future clearly you do not, so you keep sipping ur Kool aid and shopping at Walmart. I much prefer Wholefoods, it's only 1/2 a mile from our home, we can walk, drive and don't need to plan ahead. See you not as smart as you think. You depend on others I prefer freedom and choice, mic 🎤 drop
Charge at home, its cleaner, safer, and just like having a cell phone on wheels. Most people even out of spec people dc fast charge less than 15% of their miles
The key is understanding and planning. I did an out of season road trip to Alaska in a Subaru 20 years ago. I did the research so I would know what I could expect. I planned for various scenarios. I had issues, but the trip (and our lives) was not impacted seriously.
Knowing that the car needs to get to a certain point just to start charging is one item that is not as well known as it needs to be. OEMs (and dealers when there is one) need to educate drivers more than they do currently. Same goes for those renting EVs. There was a time when a driver was expected to know more about the vehicle then currently. I remember when you could not count on an open station within 100 miles of any arbitrary location. I once need to wait for the station I found to open, and this was on the Interstate in North Carolina.
Tom at State of Charge did a test after the winter weather event on the East Coast. You have a video on what to do if you find yourself low on charge. I think a specific video on how to maintain enough heat while reducing your consumption would be useful. Discuss reasonable prep for cold weather driving. If you have extra blankets in the car, you can lower the cabin temp (or turn that off) and use the seat heater.
Also, I think a guide to using Plugshare, or the car's nav, to find the closest charger of any kind can help with the SHTF, now what do I do situation.
Finally, I also think it would be useful to describe the EV equivalent of a jerry can. There are now portable power stations that can be used to directly charge an EV (they can also provide backup for your house so not single use). It will not be as fast as a jerry can, but you can avoid the tow. Ford F-150 with their on-board power doesn't even need the extra device, just a portable charger when all drivers should have just in case.
January 20, 1985 I was delivering pizzas in Indianapolis. -20° F weather -51° F windchill factor in deep snow. I delivered pizza all night in my 1965 Mustang for Pizza Barn. Progress is wonderful!
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a guy I know has a the Bolt and he did an at home test in the winter and let only certain things he'd use ie: heater/fan, seats and I think the heating steering. After about an hour of just running those things, he lost about a battery bar worth of power. The downside of gas powered is your heat can drop some as there is no engine pressure build up to keep the coolant good and warm.
Great discussion. Thank you!
Did I hear you correctly, Mark, that the 2022/23 Bolt EV does not do battery pre-conditioning, whether while plugged in at home or while being driven, in cold weather?
Certainly, the situation in Chicago needs to discussed, analyzed, and addressed.
However, the glib statements that ICE vehicles can always fill up without fail is simply not true.
A few years ago, Colonial Pipeline was hacked and there were many ICE vehicles and their drivers stranded. For many days.
Fossil fuel is dependent on a long, complex process, each step of the way can impact whether there is fuel at the pump, and most certainly the price.
Hurricanes, tornadoes, wildfires, earthquakes, floods, and other natural events can impact whether ICE vehicles can get their fuel.
But as per usual, the ICE advocates gloss over these events and blissfully and incorrectly say there’s NEVER an issue with getting fuel in their tank.
Yes, there maybe some adjustments at this time if one has an EV in extreme weather. This is not unique - people have to make adjustments to many natural events. This is a fact of life. People in Chicago have to dig out winter clothes, bundle up, deal with school closures, forgo pleasure driving and more during extreme cold weather.
So, yeah, arctic blasts and extreme cold are impactful in many aspects of life. People adjust. Life goes on.
Home charging was less of an issue in Chicago. These were commercial Uber drivers who had to charge several times on the road throughout the day. Glad the ICE drivers were making money in this cold winter! 😂
I have a stupid question. Does preconditioning your vehicle while it is charging from your home, how much does that increase your electric bill? What is that impact on your bill?
How much bill increases is impossible to know without knowing cost per kWh. It will cost more, for sure. If you add an additional 20 minutes to a charge session that normally takes 5 hours, then that is an additional 7% cost, assuming per kWh rate is the same for entire charge time.
@@barryw9473 thank you. That’s the information I was looking for.
Ryan, I'm curious why you don't take advantage of level 1 charging in your carport rather than your neighbour's power?
R1T has resistive heat from motors (4 motors but no heat pump); Hyundai has heat pump and 2 motors. Topic idea: which US popular EVs have heat pumps?
Great point max, departure scheduling will also increase the actual effiency once you drive we only lose 4% of range her in Atlanta and yday and today the low temps were 12 degrees and this morning 21 degrees. Its all a nothing burger.
I love how anti ev people pick the one or 2 days of extreme cold to denounce EVs. how often is it below 0? Most Americans, its less than a few days/year. just plan and deal with it for that 1 - 5 days.
I love how pro ev people are full of s
@bob-qi4nr I have had 0 issues because I am not an idiot and know how to plan.
FYI in Calgary, Alberta recently gas pumps froze, cold weather affects eveything. In BC, my F150 with a brand new 12v battery would not start, my sons Honda Accord would not start, etc ruclips.net/video/GQjsmRIlb2I/видео.html
So I recently bought a 2019 rwd model 3, it had 50k miles, I got it for a great price and it already had fsd. Now, I live in an apartment complex and I’m in upstate ny, I will say that it has been kind of disappointing. Before I bought it I watched videos on Tesla for about a year. I swear it’s all I would do in my spare time and I heard people say you lose a little range in the cold but so far my experience is I’m loosing half of my range. It essentially goes down a percent for every mile I drive and because it’s 2019 and doesn’t have lfp I only charge it to 80%. I realize that the issue with taking about ev is everyone’s case will be different, I’m sure my battery has some degradation compared to if I bought one new.
Also ur model doesnt have a heat pump. 2020 and newer have them i believe but u can confirm that
@@sfresh92 oh see, I didn’t even know that. You think that’s why the range is lacking?
@@steezytrey yeah thats makes a difference, also if u charge at home and precondition while charger is connected then ur battery will warm up using homecharger instead of sacrificing range to warm up the car. U should notice a significant improvement. On cold days it can take 1hr. Also set departure times it will precondition by that time.
@@sfresh92 see that’s my biggest issue I Iive in an apartment complex, it has chargers but the they charge idle fees If the vehicle is left there after it’s charge
The nacs transition will be 100% fine it will pull other cpos upwards in improvment
Lets face it, evs are much more difficult to deal with in cold weather especially if you cannot charge at home. There really should be no debate over this issue. We can hype evs all we want but facts are facts. Fortunately I live in Florida so its a non issue for me but If I lived in a cold climate, was still working and couldnt charge at home I would have to think long and hard about my choice of transportation. Btw, I have a 22 Bolt EV. My home charger is an old areoenvironment that I used with my Volt. I rarely dcfc so the basic ev works well for me.
No debate needed? Are you out of your mind? Cold weather BEV use should absolutely a consideration for those who live in cold winter climes. They basically lose about 1/2 their range in cold weather due to cabin heat and also battery chemistry. Many don’t have home charging so they can’t precondition.
All I can say is that we’ve been driving our EV since early 2022 in western Colorado and it has not been a hardship, winter or summer.
Extreme subzero temperatures are…you know extreme and not often encountered by most people. On those rare occasions they do most prudent people stay closer to home and avoid long road trips no matter what powers their vehicle. Keep in mind I said most prudent people.
I hate to say it but I think Toyota was right in a way. I think a day will come when real home charging will exist for apartment dwellers. (Realistically only some states mandate leasing companies allowing tenants to buy their own charger… but upgrading anything at a home you don’t own is not something most people will do).
I think hybrid , but not Prius type hybrids , but basically BEV with range extender engines that are not connected to the wheels in anyway. That way people will can use them as bev trainers. They will see and hear that they are driving on batteries. And know when the gas engine is charging. That way they aren’t just using my the car like it’s just an efficient ICE powered car like most hybrids are. (Surveys show most phev owners gas more than charge. These will be a gap vehicle to train people to charge first and gas as a backup. At least until fast charging networks catch up. (And at least some apartment home charging truly becomes available )
Should not be remote starting gas cars indoors.
Evs are way better you can "idle" them for hours without any wear on the "engine" or any other drive components. Try ideling your ice vehicle for 30 min everyday in the winter to warm up the interior, that after a few years will "wear" out the ice engine making it even more costly. So perfect yes, superior in everyway except, the sound, I love a great v8 rumble, but its not intelligent.
Nice background!
Until and unless you have Level 2 home charging and can pre-condition your vehicle, BEV suck in very cold weather. This coming from someone with eleven years of experience. Advantages: car can warm quickly Disadvantages: loss of range from heating cabin and loss of range just driving. Figure your driving range will be cut in 1/2, so a Model Y with 289 miles at 100% SOC will only be able to drive about 140 miles with heat on. Those are the facts. Cold weather does not affect modern ICE vehicles near as much as a BEV. Internal combustion in and of itself creates heat and that’s a HUGE advantage. Remote start available in most UCE cars from factory or aftermarket makes the ICE even more convenient.
Let’s add the issue of inability to Direct Current fast charge ( DC fast charge) in very cold weather or cold soaked vehicles and it’s yet another strike against BEV in cold weather environments.
Teslas are the best selling cars in Finland, Norway, and Sweden, where the winters are extremely cold, don't see many complaints and Teslas keep selling. Also in extremely cold temps, ice vehicles lose a ton of range, idling for 20 or 30 minutes to reach a decent operating temp / "warm up" . On the freeways both in stop n go traffic and high speed your ice vehicle loses a ton of range. gas pumps don't work when the grid is down, sometimes gas pumps freeze up or are out of order, or gas stations are closed or crowded. EVs are just much cheaper to operate, maintain and repair. lots fewer parts.
You are full of S
I know that many people like it, and fall for what Chevy and those wanting to delay the transition want, but the end of the Bolt is great for the EV revolution. It's main goal was to clog up fast DC charging stations and frustrate those waiting to charge, and therefore, keep potential customers away from making the switch to EVs. Their latest attempt at making their EV delay plans work was to sell it to ride share fleets knowing the drivers are clueless about EVs and they need to charge at fast DC stations. Congratulations GM. It's finally working.
Are these 3 people talking about EVs or Tesla? Tesla will charge in any weather 😂
Frsncie, at your house anyone can charge your car, unless you have no electrcity. Everone has 120 volt plugs and worst case extension cords. People generally dont road trip everyday. Ice cars are old tech, and if not exotics, just dumb
With a standard outlet in the US, you are only going to charge at 1.44 kW (120V x 12A), which means 43 hours to charge a 60 kWh battery in a Model 3/Y Standard Range.
@@amosbatto3051 If you only use 15 kWh a day (45 miles at 3 miles/kWh efficiency), and plug into 120 V every night (say, 13 hour dwell time), then you can recover that range overnight. If you use the entire battery every day, then you certainly need L2 charging.
@amosbatto3051 Yes that is assuming one uses the entire range of the ev each day, can you imagine the mileage driven in your example let's say 240 miles of range × 300 days in a year that would equal 72,000 miles a year. People that talk or write this no sense of range don't drive electric. The avg American drives 14k miles per year divide that by 300 days, yes I know a year has 364/365 days, but use 300 ÷14,000= 47 miles a day at 1.2kwh that is 4.65 miles per hour × 11 hours charging level 1 = 51.5 miles more than enough, now divide the 14k by 335 days and your daily avg is 42 miles. Many people do not even drive that much.
Of course in our home we have 4 evs and 3 level 2 chargers, evse, running 80 amp for one evse and 2 at 40amps, we usually step them down to 32 amps so we can't drive enough to be out of range ever. We have 62 solar panels and 4 tesla powerwalls and doing an upgrade to add 6 more powerwalls to have 10, freedom is awesome. The last time I pumped gas was 12-28-2021 in a rental car, for a personal car our 1968 caddy Deville 472 v8 last summer. Getting ready to switch that beast next winter to ev.
Most apartments I’ve lived, where I parked was not safely close enough to my apartment to run an extension cord to. (And any outside outlet the would pull from the leasing companies $$ so that was out. Again not saying this wouldn’t work for a small percentage of people but proposing this as THE answer isn’t fair. And is dubious if you really want the conversion to work. People like their ice cars. Making converting a chore is how we get stuck on ice forever
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Evs do not come at a premium, not at all Francie, How comfortable are you with recalla, and taking your car in for service, oil.changes all takes time, so think about it. An avg oil change takes from driving home, to the oil.change place, then waiting and driving home is about 1 to 2 hours, 4 times a year, plus driving to and fro getting gas totalsanother 6 hours makes more time wasted driving ice vs ev. Your always looking at the 1% case look at the 99% case, this just shows necause you dont drive electric been doing it here in Atlanta since 2012 when networks were sparse and ranges were lower. Sack up ask Lyle for an ev
I make the trip to get my oil changed coincide when we go pick up our groceries. They're done in about 1/2 hour....45 minutes if they rotate the tires. While waiting, I find my salesperson and have a chat (kinda like when EV owners on the road have to wait to charge). I never make a trip just to have the oil changed.......that would be kinda stupid.
I stop for gas as I'm leaving on a trip to.......anywhere, and I'm done, completely, in less than 5 minutes. Quit drinkin' the Koolaid. It's unbecoming.
@papadave9061 You prove my point, you have to plan to do all those things. Drink the Kool aid? Lol. We have a 3 car garage with 4 power walls and 62 solar panels. We have 2 clipper creek 48amp evse and a dual dispenser 80amp evse. So here goes our planning. We open the garage park and as you head inside you plug in the car, then open the door and live your life. The panels and power walls power the 4 evs, and cover all the power for the home. Just to make you hot and bothered we are installing 6 more powerwalls for storage that way we can be off the grid. Then we have charging at both our beach condo and lake house. All 4 evs can make it to the lake house, 3 of them can make it to the beach, so guess what for 99.75% of our trips we don't need any help whatsoever. The only time we do is when we rent a car when we go to Cali, NY, Miami. Other than that unlike you my family is in full.control of our driving, gas price spike, no worries, power out, no orries. Plus it's cleaner, no dirty gas handles, safer-no gas fumes when pumping or around the gas dispensers. Safer no car jacking etc. I prefer as much control of my future clearly you do not, so you keep sipping ur Kool aid and shopping at Walmart. I much prefer Wholefoods, it's only 1/2 a mile from our home, we can walk, drive and don't need to plan ahead. See you not as smart as you think. You depend on others I prefer freedom and choice, mic 🎤 drop
@@MrJinske EV's SUCK!!!! Get a life lo##er
Why is Francine here? She does not own an EV and has no credibility and no real perspective. She is also annoying.
You don't have to own an EV to have knowledge. Does a Nuclear Physicist have to own a Nuclear Reactor?