People Say I'm Full of Crap About Kia and Hyundais, Well Watch This
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- Hyundai and Kia review. People Say I'm Full of Crap About Kia and Hyundais, Well Watch This, DIY and car review with Scotty Kilmer. Kia and Hyundai review. Buying a new Kia. Buying a new Hyundai. Buying a used Hyundai. Should I buy a Kia? Are Kias reliable? The truth about the Kia and Hyundai being related. Car advice. DIY car repair with Scotty Kilmer, an auto mechanic for the last 56 years.
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Another great video Scotty. Have to share my story. I'm 57 was ASE certified Master Tech (expired), Worked At MBZ and Toyota Dealers, Spent 2 years with a Porsche race team, 10 Years at European specialty shop. Have owned several independent shops with at least 3-5 employees. My X girlfriend had bought a 2013 Kia SX GDI 2.0 turbo. I bought her a 2019 Ford Titanium because that's what she wanted. I decided not to trade the Kia. I kept it after she bailed on me. KIA sent me a notice for software update/Free oil change and give me a 50$ visa card so I took it in. They changed oil/Replaced a turbo oil line/Software update/Recorded engine sounds and sent it to corporate and a car wash. Gave me my visa card and told me I have an unlimited/ transferable/Lifetime warranty on my engine. Was told they had issues with piston slop because the skirts were too short. I have 106k now and if it sits for 2 days I get a noise for 2-3 seconds on startup. I live in Colorado when it gets cold I get code for trans temp sensor. Causes short shift/ hard shift. Clear code and it goes away for awhile. Waiting on installing sensor and other new parts so when I get the new engine swap the tech can pull them from the trunk. Hopefully they give me a loaner and they keep it for 3 months-LOL
My Hyundai is at 300k miles so go pound sand Scott
I had one of the Hyundais with the engine problems. Blew up on me while I was on vacation too. Called the local dealership and they told me "get it towed to the dealership and we'll make it right." Replaced the engine, gave me a rental, and shipped the car up to where I lived all on their dime.
It probably ruined your vacation. They should have paid for that too!!!
@@letisfan A nice dinner would have helped too lol
Yeah, sure.
If only Toyota did that for me when my 2012 Camry died on me when I was 500+ miles away from home... That was a horrible experience.
now, imagine it out of warranty...F kia/hyundai
I just sold my 2010 Kia Soul with a standard transmission. It had 139K miles on it and ran perfectly with no oil consumed between oil changes, and it got about 36mpg combined. No complaints about the car. The only thing I needed repaired on it was the sunroof which stopped working under warranty. My local Kia dealership fixed it promptly and was easy to work with.
my 2011 Hyundai Sonata limited had it's engine replaced at 99,000 miles due to the huge recall they had. around, I would say 170,000 miles the engine started burning a lot of oil... about every month the thing is down a quart of oil. I'm now at 198,000 miles and so far as long as I make sure my oil level is good, the engine is running strong. Actually, I haven't had really any huge mechanical problems.... replaced A/C compressor, half axels went bad but to be expected with that many miles but they aren't difficult to replace. I really can't complain too much except for oil consumption and oh yeah, the wiring for the headlights, tail lights, blinkers are absolutely horrible! I burn lights like some people do cigarettes. Matter of fact, the tail lights got so hot that it melted the plastic so if was difficult replacing the bulbs. the headlights got so hot that the headlight assembly crumbled. would I buy another? absolutely not because I consider myself to be one of the more lucky people.
@@rjmurphyo0 if it runs good and isnt leaking the oil out, id suspect the valve stem seals. the rubber tears and oil will leak from the head, around the valve stems, into the combustion chamber. the seals are very cheap to buy, but to changing them can get expensive because the traditional method requires the head to be removed. however, its possible in many cases to put rope down the plug well, bring the piston up, which will sandwich the rope between teh piston and valvle. then you can use a keeper remover tool to pop the retainers and valve springs out, and change the stem seals from the topside, without pulling the head. that would save some money on labor.
@@rjmurphyo0 Sorry, Huyndai Sonata's from earlier years are trash compared to any newer Kia or Huyndai models.
Key word is standard transmission. You're almost always better off with a manual in the long run.
I went in for a transmission flush at my Hyundai dealership with an appointment at 8:30 or 9 am. Much later I saw 2 or sometimes 3 guys leaning over the engine compartment. When I asked what they were doing I was told, "They are changing the alternator because even though the recall to protect it had been done there was evidence some oil got on it, and they were changing it just in case." They worked on it for hours and I got a free alternator replacement ( a $582 job) I didn't ask for.
You should probably mention the dealer's name, they deserve a shoutout. Most dealers will pretend they never say anything wrong.
@@TaroutCommodore No, there has to be more to it.
Don't flush an auto trans. So, they somehow got oil on it? You had an oil leak?
There has to be more to it.
@@wholeNwonabsolutely.
Something they did and don't admit to it. They were saving their asses and their job.
No beauty cover is safe with Scotty around😂
I like the way Scotty sends them flying.
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Like a Frisbee!@@Nick41622
The so called beauty cover keeps the heat in which makes the engine run more efficiently.
@@Notfiveo0 I'm aware, but it doesn't take away the humor of him tossing them aside lol
Hi Scotty, I've owned Kia since 2001. A 2001 Kia Sportage got 241,000. A 2005 Kia Sportage got 296,000 and currently a 2015 Kia Forte with 120,000 and climbing. The only part replaced out of the three (with the exception of normal maintenance) was the alternator which blew at 250,000. I've always changed oil at 3K and performed the scheduled maintenance. I will be an advocate of Kia products. I'm a firm believer of scheduled maintenance and proper usage. thanks, Mike
You are right!
Cool story but will not convience me that Kia’s are anything other than Killed In Action
1 proud Kia owner vs how many…..and overall yes some will work to the shits.
The older Kias/Hyundai did not have any major issues compared to the newer ones. If you are going to advocate for them, make sure it is for the older Hyundai/Kia.
@@NickChemist-yf6ojI own a 2020 Kia Forte with 210k miles. I used it for Uber and drove it really hard and put lots of miles on it really quick. This Car has Zero warning lights and keeps going strong without problems.
Some American brands and even German Brands will struggle to make it that far without having some problems. They’ve been around longer and still having issues 😂
If you don’t like Kia is ok, that’s your opinion but you still living in the past.
In 2011 ran across a great deal on a Kia Soul + with 9k miles for only $8k. It now has 93k miles and has no issues. Daughter in college 7 years ago needed a car. Found a used Kia Soul + with 100k miles for $6k. Car now has 160k miles. Only had problems with a wheel bearing hub and the parking brake. We knew they were cheap cars and didn't expect much but they're still daily drivers. So for what we paid I think we got our money's worth.
You can always trust the Hyundai Beta II engine. Just remember to change the timing belt and it'll run forever. idk where Hyundai went wrong with their Theta II and Nu engines.
richard, i hear mixed things. if they are maintained well they are decent. camry here. but have heard many good stories bout kia and hyundai.
Scotty believes the customer over the dealer. Of course there is no record that says the dealer replaced the transmission.
@@arditsadiku8474 I have my 02 Hyundai Elantra still running lol. I run 100 mph home from work 4k rpms for at least 10 minutes straight every night. 3k mile oil changes. IDK the car just doesn't die. Runs fine for me. I am no engine expert but yeah the Beta 2 seems to be doing JUST fine. Oil changes are easy, engine burns NO oil, spark plugs are easy to change, valve cover gasket is easy to change. I can't complain.
I got this car for $400 and have been driving it for years, this car has allowed me to save a lot of money.
Had a 2020 Sorento 4 cyl. with 52,000 miles on it. Had no problems with it. The only thing I didn't like was constantly shifting up and down in cruise on the interstate.
Don't have it now because it got blown up.
By a 225 pound white tail buck. Was going to replace it with a Sportage but the salesman didn't put much effort finding what I wanted.
Ended up with a Subaru Forester. I'll see how I feel about my first CVT with this car.
I had a manual 4cyl Hyundai and it was awesome. Had no transmission problem and maid 46 mpg...lasted 12 years and bought it in 2001.
Accent?
I was a communications technician for 24 years in the USAF. One of the first things we were taught in basics electronics school was to NEVER replace a fuse with a higher amperage fuse than the one the engineers originally called for.
so what will that do blow the cpu of the car?
greetings brother! I too was a USAF communications technician, back in Phu Cat RVN 1969.Back in 1966 I was at Shepard AFB where all the instructors got together to laugh at me for asking about the polarity of a fuse!
@@subaruamazon well it may not blow it up, but there's a reason why not all the fuses in the fuse box are all rated the same across the board. The concern isn't the fuse, but rather the fuse is the sacrificial component so that the remainder of the compnentes downstream of that fuse don't receive more amperage than the fuse it'self is rated for. Sure, the likelyhood of the fuse being the weakest component and the remainder of the components being able to handle more amperage than the fuse itself is fairly high, but why take the chance of surpassing that overhead?
@@subaruamazoncause an electrical fire
@@robertaccornero7172 What about the polarity of a resistor?
I loved my Kia 2018Kia Sportage. I was a Honda and Toyota owner for years and on an impulsive buy I decide to go against my own advice and bought my 2018 Kia Sportage brand spanking new. I really didn't have a complaint about Kia until I was riding down the highway one evening and the car just lost power. After towing it away the mechanic told me that the engine was seized and it was a $10,000 repair.
"It was great, until it wasn't!"
Happens all the time
How old was it, ajd how many miles?
I never will buy a kia or hunday again...nevar
Our Hyundai was crap
I have a 2014 Kia optima, like many people my engine went so they replaced it and I've driven it a good 100,000 plus miles without any issues so now it has 201,000 mi and it's still running just fine
KIA had some big problems in manufacturing a few years ago, but they did give me a FREE REPLACEMENT ENGINE for a 7 year old car I purchased used. I mean, that was pretty good of them.
That’s actually amazing.
So basically your engine blown, wow...KIA is awesome, right?
I wish Hyundai/Kia was like that outside of America.
you probably could have sued them.
they had to. they got SUED and LOST😂😂😂😂.
that the ONLY reason why they replaced.
I agree with Scotty on the Corolla; bought my 2003 used in 2022, only thing not working is the digital clock. A/C is still cold.
I can't believe that people say your full of crap about these cars. They are crap. When I worked for a delivery company, one of the stops I did was to a Hyundai dealership. Out back of the service shop was a scrap metal bin that needed to be moved on a 10 ton semi truck. It was almost 3/4 full of more then 40 trannys and engines. I've never seen that at any other dealership EVER!
Had a Kia Optima rental recently with only 1500 miles on it that had horrible transmission shifts.
I recently had an elantra as a rental. It was a horrible little car. No balls but would randomly get torque steer when I'd just half gas it even up to speed already. It felt like the driving inputs made no sense . And I've driven Mazda 3s, Corollas, and civics.etc and have never been so frustrated from a "normal" car as i was that elantra.
Try changing or removing the thermostat entirely to help reduce the transmission temperature.
My 2012 KIA OPTIMA had transmission shift issues 3yrs back but kept moving. Only in December last year my mechanic recommended we remove the thermostat due to overheating issue I had & to our greatest surprise, the transmission somehow reset itself bare 4days later.
Today, the car is moving fine & cool!
So yes, transmission or gearbox issues can be a result of gearbox overheating especially with cars built with turbo-chargers & Dual-clutch transmissions.
So change your transmission fluid with a synthetic oil & then try removing the thermostat & observe the car for few days or weeks.
My 15 year old Sorento has been from England to Poland 33 times , never had an angry spanner , going again in June !
I was a Hyundai dealership technician and I can attest to the validity of scotty's video. I replaced various GDI engines under warranty (2.4, 2.0, 1.8...THEY ALL BLOW UP.) There Dual clutch transmissions that came in their Tuscons were awful too!!!
Agree with the dual clutch transmission, 17 tucson turbo less than 75,000 miles and it's jerky when starting. Dealer said it's normal. 🤔
Why do all these different engines have major failures?
@@zzman5306the moral lesson is to buy Toyota and not Korean garbage
We have 3 Hyundai's with over 100k miles each and we are completely happen with all of them and now we are looking at a 2024 Hyundai Palisade Caligraphy
100K is just broken in. Also why buy brand new when you can save a lot slightly used? Get a 2023 & save if you really believe in Hyundai.
Still trash.
I also have 2 Hyundai's. 04 Elantra and 04 Santa Fe. They both have 130,000 mile and there still gpoing but i am starting to have issues with the both of them. For the money and warranty And if you know what your buyng they are great cars. But Scotty is right they have weak transmissions and there cheap. But Im with you i love my hyundais
My 2022 has wiring issues. I've had it in twice for wiring harnesses to be replaced. Sad, but Hyundais are too expensive for what they are. They're nearly the same price as a Toyota. They'd be worth it if they were a better price. Too much cheap plastic.
Long as you stay away from the turbo engines you are good.
Owned 7 Hyundai’s over the years… once had one of “those” engines. Replaced w/ quick approval and no arguing and provided free car rental. No complaints and bought 2023 Elantra SEL w/conv last year. Happy camper given class/price -
I've had a Tucson for nearly 19 years with no problems whatsoever. Best car I've ever had.
i have a 2016 elantra... no engine issue, no transmission issue, except for maybe a few paint-fading due to AZ sun... no issue. It all boils down to maintenance and how you drive these things... it is not meant for it to run 90-100 miles an hour on a high rpm.
Driving a 2018 Genesis Ultimate 5.0L V8 420hp AWD (Hyundai) for 6 years now. Zero issues with engine or transmission. Maybe, it’s because I only use it as a toy and have only put 12,000mls on it so far.
I drove Kia Rondo EX v6 for past 15 yrs 115 k. No engine or transmission issues.Replaced struts and k frame .
i love my kia rondo 2016 120k on it regular service after 8k kms
We bought a 2012 Kia Soul new in 2012. It’s been a great car and the Dealer has been easy to deal with. At 78,000 miles there was a problem getting it into gear. After a few days diagnosis they decided a new transmission was in order. They replaced it. Problem was still there. They finally discovered the problem was what I thought it was in the first place. A bad shift cable. Which they installed for only the cost of the part. Car still runs and drives just fine.
My Silverado is almost 260,000 and it’s the OG transmission and 4.8. Good luck with your wind up car.
@@residentpotato6023 My last vehicle was a 2001 Astro that had almost 200,000 miles on it when I got rid of it due to rust returning it to the earth. Before that one of my trucks was a 1983 Chevy G30 that lasted over 200,000 miles. And I currently drive a 2016 Traverse that only has 104,000 on it. So I am experienced with “real cars” also. Have a nice day.
If they actually replaced that trans., it shows you how stupid they were. A child should be able to find a defective linkage.
@@wholeNwon They did. I still laugh about it,
Lol, shifter cable after 78000 miles. That ain't cool, that cable should have no problems with that little millage on it. But, for hyundai/Kia, 78000 miles is like having 200000 miles😂.
I had a 2012 Hyundai Sonata had 200k miles I only changed the oil once a year I sold the car with nothing wrong with it only thing I ever done to it was put breaks on it.
Just like with all vehicles there is good and bad. I have had three different models of Kia over the years. The first was a 2017 Optima LX which had the transmission shifting issue, but what happened specifically with that is that the car was thrown into limp mode so we could get it to the dealer and it was a 20-minute software update and in this case it happened to be the knock sensor. After the update it ran great until my wife totaled the car when she followed someone too close and it had 120k miles on it still running smooth at the time.
The second Kia is what I still drive now and that is my 2022 Stinger which runs beautifully and has not had a single issue as of yet. This is also the Korean version because towards the end of 2021 they designated their Seoul plant as the Stinger manufacturing site. Just recently bought my wife a Sorento as well and bought that used with 20k miles on it and it is a 2019. I am more cautious of all these cars having too many fancy electronics nowadays too because there are far more things to go wrong and not to mention the electrical toll on the system.
I will stand by Kia from 2019 to newer with GDI engines. Much like Honda, Kia requires that you take very good care of your car. Locally we also have a Kia dealer that offers an extra 100k mile warranty on top of Kia's 100k so we are covered for the full 200K miles and that is a sweet deal. Of all the Kias I see locally that break down, a large majority of them are not getting regular oil changes or basic maintenance. Even overheard a lady at the Kia dealership tell the technician that she didn't know she needed to have the oil changed and I heard him say, "Well the last time an oil change was recorded was about 30k miles back"
So the lesson here is do your research for one, no matter what we will assume some risk in buying a car, and if you buy used I highly suggest certified pre-owned even though they have a higher sticker price.
I have a 2016 Kia Optima LX. It drives like brand new since the day I bought it at 29K miles, now at 76K. I always change the fluids so that helps a lot, and it has a lifetime warranty on some of the engine parts, and 150K miles on some others.
It took nearly 140,000 miles before my Hyundai Santa Fe had its first issue, which was the drivers side window blew a fuse. Since I usually do all my own work on the car, I have not taken a look at it yet, I am in no mood to open the door panel, but I expect it is the motor that is giving out. I replaced the fuse and it was fine for a few weeks and then blew again.
But that's it, as far as "broken", though I do hear that little "clunk" in the steering, which I suspect is that famous Hyundai plastic steering "gear", a real cheap part, a one hour job with the steering column.
In 2018 I bought a 2015 Kia Optima that only had 9K miles on it. Now it has 74K miles on it and I have never had an issue with it. I simply do the required maintenance. My mechanic tells me he has been steering his customers to Kia as they are now rivaling Honda and Toyota for quality and reliability; he tells me that he has customers who have Kias that have more than 200K miles on it and have their original engines and transmissions. I think, as with any manufacturer, you can have some bad ones; however, I must say that my Kia, my sister's Kia and my mother's Kia are all going strong iwth no issues whatsoever.
7:09 I appreciate Scott's insight on cars but you can't compare a Kia from 10 years ago to the ones made now. They went through an effort to improve their quality which started around the mid 2010s. There's a Popular Mechanics article about it fron 2018.
Scotty doesn’t know how to lie. He just tells us what his customers tell him.
Seems to only see cars with 1 million miles on them.
People like to bash him, he legit knows his stuff.
@@dannyc8617 he doesn't. He's a dipshit
Their GDI engines are failing like crazy. Their reliability peaked about ten years ago. Once they moved to direct-injection it's been downhill ever since. I drove my 2003 Kia Rio for twenty years before selling it to a neighbor kid. He's still driving it.
I have a 2005 Hyundai sonata, second engine before I bought it, with 153,000 ran it to 194,000, but wanted awd, so I bought a ford escape, I have no complaints with the Hyundai, first foreign car I ever owned,
2019 kia telluride owner, it was trouble free for 200k miles with regular routine maintenances. I'm in market for the new car and most likely i'm going to buy Lexus TX. Problem with Kia is, there is not so many kia dealers(2) in my city compare to toyota(5) so they still do $7000 mark ups on new Tellurides.
200k miles in 4 years?!?! What the heck do you do for a living?
how much does it have now
@@moloono1 I own a multiple restaurants. I drive from LA to Vegas 1~2 times a week.
@@Ter0091 Nice! Hopefully the TX is a comfortable commuter for you.
I listen to Bluegrass and Gospel Music on Sunday. I had a 1987 Hyundai Excel and it was a Piece of Junk. I don't drive anymore and I can't walk very Good now.
Weed is good.
In the UK kia and hyundai have a good reputation. I've never owned or driven one but you have convinced me to buy a Toyota suv
I believe J. D. Power and Love Scotty
Rank Manufacturer Problems Per 100 Vehicles
1 Lexus 133
2 Genesis 144
3 Kia 152
4 Buick 159
5 Chevrolet 162
6 Mitsubishi 167
7 Toyota 168
8 Hyundai 170
9 Mini 170
10 Nissan 170
Manufacturers pay for jdp to collect data - i wouldn't trust it.
I've owned a Mazda, Toyota,Pontiac, and a Mercedes over the past 25 years. Each and every time u have felt like I was man handled by the dealer.
Dealers are crooks!
KIA dealers are next level.
Correct.
Man, I must've had God on my side, I've only dealt with the dealership once and they were nice as could be and I left paying under msrp.
You're just finding that out???
Jason, dealers are crooks. i was a mechanic for 32 years and i cannot tell you how many times i had customers come back to my shop because a dealer told them they needed brakes or struts which they had done at my shop and they had a warranty. and yet there was nothing wrong with the parts the dealer said needed replacement. also the prices dealers charge are next level ripoff...
Want to know if they actually rebuilt the transmission? Put witness marks on the bell housing bolts from a flat of the bolt to the case. Use torque seal not a sharpie or a paint pen. If the torque seal is unbroken you have your answer. Do it to the bolts where it is undetectable under normal visual inspection.
I bought a used truck from a KIA dealership. I went in to their service department and while talking to the service manager she opened up a notebook with a list full of newish KIA owners. When I asked her what it was she told me it was all the cars that needed new motors or transmissions.
For the 2.4L, most of which had 100,000+ miles, that they're covering, now go to Honda & see how many 2016+ engines they're replacing, that only have 20,000 miles. Stop spreading false information, your observations aren't facts & most of those, they technically don't even have to cover, but they are.
If that's true then I wonder how they haven't gone bankrupt. Hmm...
@@GplusGains exactly! Kia is a favorite in other countries like Canada, Europe & Australia.
@@GplusGains Because they're cheap engines and transmissions and they probably don't pay their mechanics much.
@@mplslawnguy3389 if that's true then it sounds simple enough. Now I'm wondering why Chrysler couldn't avoid filing for bankruptcy twice. Bunch of morons there?
My Forte had a manual box and the 1.8 liter not the fire prone 2.0. Flawless, over 40 mpg and fun to drive.
Been driving a soul with a 2.0 in it for 13 years.
I have a sorento and it started consuming oil like a madman and one day it was full and the very next day I’m in the desert and the engine locks up and surprise no oil. Put another engine in it that I had to pay for because Kia wouldn’t and the second engine started consuming oil immediately and about 20k miles later it’s gone too. They had countless recalls before they sold it to me and didn’t notify us till after we bought it but when we tried to get them to fix it they refused. I knew 3 or 4 people it’s happened to.
That's because in the USA they cut corners at the factory. In Europe they are decent vehicles. Had three Hyundai's and no problems to report..A Santa Fe of 2008 and still going strong...
Scotty, I have had 3 Hyundais. They have all been very good to me, they were inexpensive and economical to drive and maintain. My one gripe is 2 of them had wiring and electrical problems with the heater blower motor system. My newest is a 2019 Elantra. The only problem I have is the Headlights, they leak water. Hyundai knows they leak water. Hyundai put silicone desicant in 4 packets in the headlights. After 4 years I started having problems with the turn signals and the running lights. They kept getting fault lights and I kept changing the bulbs, and cleaning the sockets with electrical cleaner. Finally changed the silicone desicant and the problem pretty much went away. Occasionally the warning light comes on but only for a minute or 2 and then it goes out. I think it is getting better as the moisture is being sucked out of the light assembly.
No disrespect but the fact that you have had 3 of them and had similar problems with 2 of them sorta doesn’t make sense why you say that “ they have been very good to you and were inexpensive and economical to drive seems like a contradiction. Maybe I’m missing something here or misunderstood you? I don’t know, like I said not being disrespectful just a valid question.
The gaslighting you get when taking your car to a hyundai dealer service department is almost an art
Comes from LOTS of practice. It helps to have stupid or at least ignorant customers.
It's not just a Hyundai, they do the same thing at any dealership. Most dealerships will claim you as the driver did something that caused a problem. A car should start having problems just because you drove it a little harder than they think it should be.
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2011 Optima SX at 116,000 miles and 2014 Hyundai Sonata at 68,000 miles. Im good so far. Its not a Toyota or a Honda but it lasts longer than my old American or European cars. I had a 2002 Expedition XLT and a 2013 Mercedes c250... they were a nightmare. Also had a 1998 Mitsubishi 3000gt which also had a lot of problems. I'd buy another Hyundai/Kia. If it wasnt for them, the GDI technology would have died with Volkswagen. Hyundai pushed ot through and Toyota made it better. Now, almost every company uses GDI
I got a brand new Sonata,not more than 200 miles they had to replace the transmission 3 times!! Since we new the lemon law we returned it to the dealer and they took the loss. Horrible cars. You get what you pay for. I have had my 2010 Toyota Corolla and have done regular maintenance on it, and it rus beautiful with 265,623 miles. No oil burning, no problems, period.
With that Toyota experience, why would you even set foot in a Hyundai dealership? BTW, do you actually think that they replaced your trans. 3x?
@@wholeNwonYes, and they did it all in one visit while he was waiting at the dealership.
My 2013 Kia Forte runs like a champ. I take good care of it & regular maintenance. Only have changed a starter.
I had bought a new 2008 Elantra for $12,800 and had some problems, trans speed sensor went out
the car was ok, would I buy a KIA or Hyundai NO.
I just got a 2024 Kia Forte. I love it so far, but I also upgraded from a Chevy Spark, lol. I do like the warranty they offer, so anything major will be covered. I only wish I had AWD, but overall, I really like it. I think they've gotten past most of the issues they used to have.
Bought my daughter a 2011 hyundai sonata. I didn't do my homework and it went to the Hyundai dealer more times then i can count. Fortunately the extended warranty came with it as the last time the dealership was forced to replace the engine under the recall. It now has over 200,000 miles on it and never ran better but I drive conservatively. Would i buy another one. NO!
I like my old Grand Marque and Crown Vic. My job is inspecting toyotas after the production lines. While our vehicles are good, i feel that we have exceeded the threshold on electronics being dependable. One bent pin inna connector can be disabling.
I'd like to ask you a question You say you inspect Toyota's after they're built Why did Toyota for a certain year preferably 2008 build their cars with powder coated plastic brake lines they were calm completely covered until the end of the rear about maybe an index finger length of just plain steel line Why didn't they continue to dust powder coating like Chrysler did on my 2004 Dodge Neon? Seems to be pretty dangerous I lost my brakes and almost slammed into somebody My neon was almost 20 years old when it went to the junkyard never had any problems with that before this will probably be my first and last Toyota I'll ever purchase It has been nothing but a mechanical nightmare!
@@peachyclean93 before my toyota time.
@@Jerryrigger-jn6bi I see
The Kia air flow vent problem may just have clogged cabin air filter, Might just need a new cabin filter to get better vent flow. This is common if its clogged.
Yes, a lot of middle-aged to older people don't even know cars have them. They never used to have them. I just learned about them within the last 10 years. I've always owned older cars and they've never had them.
My 2007 Ford Focus has 287k miles and I'm getting 34-36 mpg highway
I have a 2009 focus..5 speed manual..39 .5 mpg on the high way
2010 with 350k. Still gets 34-36 on the highway. Doesn’t use any oil between changes. Been a beast.
Manual?
@@brockbaker3able WAY TO GO
@stuartwilkison8754 my 07 focus is a 5 speed manual also, their automatic transmissions are junk
I bought my 2010 Santa Fe with the 3.5 V6 because the powertrain was built in South Korea. Also because I'm not naive enough to think the dealer will always do the right thing. Fourteen years later I still have it.
My 2017 Santa Fe has hard shifts only when going uphill. It’s done it since 80k, and now it has 192k. You think it would be when it downshifts to rev higher. Nope, it’s when it upshifts. I also have a 2011 Sonata with 207k miles (engine replaced at 143k).
Started leasing a 2011 Kia optima in 2021, had 112,000 miles. Two years later at 146,000 miles after consistent care the engine blew. Thankfully Kia replaced it for free, but I sold it just a couple months later. Now I’ve got a newer model Subaru Outback (no the engine isn’t going to blow again, it’s past those issues) and I love it, definitely fits my needs more here in Oregon
Also forgot to mention even after the engine swap it was still burning a quart of oil every 800-1000 miles, what a piece of junk those cars are
My 2011 Kia Optima is still going strong. However, it does not have a Crapomatic transmission.
my Kia Soul will be 10 years old in May. 71k miles and it's starting to burn oil. also idles kinda rough once it's warmed up. I'd like to get a Toyota but it has to be a stick shift
Think I `finally get Scotty's popularity. He's like the last connection we have to "American Graffiti"
What do you mean? How so?
Have a 2019 Kona, the Transmission experience described isn't too different from what I noticed unless I am in "speed" mode. Its been a solid car so far at 93K miles. Hopefully keeps solid for a while to come.
I'm gonna lean toward blown head gasket because of the combo between slow coolant leak and AF02 sensor.
I bought a Hyundai Santa Fe in 2003 as my first vehicle, I had it for 13 years and put 266,000 miles on it. Overall it was very cost effective in low maintenance. I ended up buying another one in 2016 that was just a little used and had 9,000 mi on it and was 10,000 less than the original sticker price. I still have it today. Scott 75,000 miles on it and running great. Just a standard 3.5 l V6 engine two-wheel drive
Scotty,
I had a 2009 sonata-zero problems.
2011 sonata-same
2015 sorento-no problems.
I have a 2023 Tucson-love it.
My wife has a 2009 Sportage and it has had an air conditioning compressor and the timing belt replaced but it too is very reliable.
Yeah the dealership will beat you up if you go there but that’s true for any make.
You can get a lemon from any brand not just Hyundai and Kia.
Key term you “had”.. these cars are pile of garbage.. had a 2011 sonata, changed the oil every 5k miles and the engine blew out on me after 117k miles… sorry but they are mega garbage.. not to mention most of the SUVs from Kia and Hyundai can go on fire when the car is shut off… they told customers NOT to park the SUVs until they find a fix for it cuz it can go on fire.. imagine that?
@@Checkmate7215 like I said:
You can get a lemon from any brand.
Better luck with your Prius!
Same with my Elantra GT. Made in Korea and purrs like a kitten at 160k miles.
@@mike19640 if you look up your Tucson your SUV has a recall for going on fire at any given time.. at least my car doesn’t have that feature 🤣🤣
@@Checkmate7215 no recall.
I just had an oil change they would have brought it up then.
Bitter much?
Kia Soul 2010 had to have the transmission replaced at 83,000. No warranty it was expired. No problems with the transmission just blew up at a traffic light. Now I’m looking for a Toyota.
If you have any transmission shifting issue with your KIA Optima particularly for those built with a Turbo-charger & Dual-clutch transmission, please change the transmission fluid with a synthetic gear oil & then remove the Thermostat in the engine.
My KIA Optima of 2012 had gear shifting issues & gear slippage for 3yrs now but kept moving.
Just December last year, we removed the Thermostat to solve an engine overheating issue i had that month & to our surprise, the transmission just fixed itself in barely 4days.
From my mechanics conclusion, the gearbox has been overheating all along & probably the cause of the Transmission shifting issues i've been dealing with.
So pls remove the Thermostat if you use an Optima or any other car built with Turbo charger & Dual clutch transmission. These components enhances the performance of every vehicle but also generate so much heat which could sometimes affect the Transmission.
My KIA OPTIMA is fine now & shifting perfectly.
And yes, its over 110,000miles now, no issues & i enjoy the performance of that car. A 4-cylinder with 2.0Turbo. Has a very good fuel mileage and still gives me the performance higher than most V6 vehicles out there!
Sometimes, mechanics who condemn these vehicles are just proving to us that they are ignorant of the technologies built into these cars!
I'll buy a KIA/Hyundai anyday than those boring Toyotas & Lexus!😊
Thanks to Kia and Hyundai; Toyota, Nissan, and Honda have competition for the entry level and budget priced cars that helps them be more competitive. This is where the Japanese builders were 25 years ago competing for the US market and we all benefit by the competition.
My friend had a Hyundai and as he was going back to sea to work he decided to give it away free nobody wanted it even for free it was a model they sold in the UK without power steering, couldn’t give it away so it went to the scrap yard a fully working car that no one wanted
Hey Scotty kilmer I bought a 2003 Toyota Camry for 3 grand as my first car and i loved it! It was fun to drive, its zippy and it accelerated good even though it's a 4 cylinder. I would recommend to anyone.
I'm having a very good experience with my Genesis, but it was built in Korea. The dual clutch 8 speed auto is amazing
I purchased a 1998 Kia Sephia LS brand new. I still have it. Its not Pretty and it is made cheap but it is basic transportation that I have put over 350,000 miles on it. It still gets 30 miles to the gallon.. It still has the factory clutch that is just now starting to act up. This car has never left me stranded unlike my $75K GMC 2500. I use the car as my daily driver to and from work. I will drive it until the wheels fall off. Oh and I dont do regular maintenance on it either.
I have a 2017 sonata with 82000 on it and no problems with the motor or transmission and everything works inside the car.
Just bought the 2015 with 92k on it, runs great and now I see this, I am terrified! Tempted to see if I can trade it in for a Mazda cx9 I had in mind for a back up. Ugh
Manual transmission is the way to go. More control over the car, less problems and maintenance.
My Hyundai Veloster Turbo had major engine issues around 100,000kms. Blinking check engine lights, stalled out as I'm driving it, ignition coils started getting eaten randomly. What a nightmare.
Fully support you, Scotty !
I have a serious accident when I was driving a rented Kia Optima in North California . I was skid with no control at all and lucky only a inch not hitting a pole nor the fire hydrant.
Wow, I had a similar situation this past summer as my rental Kia Sportage had really weak braking & my foot got stuck under the brake pedal as the gas pedal was not open under the pedal & my foot was wedged. I'll NEVER own a Hyundai/Kia vehicle as they are unreliable & dangerous to drive!!!
What does that have to do with the car? Sounds like you were going too fast for the conditions.
We've had our Hyundai Elantra since 2013. It's been nothing but a pleasure and reliable car so far. Couple of minor recalls and really easy to maintain. I do change the engine oil and transmission fluid more often than what the owner's manual recommends.
Scotty has the knack for troubleshooting. He understands how everything works from beginning to end. Even if it’s higher technology he understands the concepts well enough to know start to finish expected results and expected normal characteristics
I know several people and even my wife and I with Hyundai isues. Our ACCENT had a wonky shift randomly. My wife complained about it many times. The "NEW" transmission did the same thing. I realized the dealer never changed it under warranty. So, they have lost me as customer forever. No Toyota we have owned has ever had tranny issues
No, Scotty, you're not full of crap. I had 2015 Hyundai Sonata and it was crap. Sold it right away.
Scotty I've had a 2014 Kia Sorento LX AWD I4 for three years no problems it's a great durable vehicle all recalls were taken care of by Dealer it has 81000 miles on it it drives like a champ without fail
Australian here.
You guys must get different cars. I see it was made in Alabama but that shouldn't make a difference. We did have the petrol engine problems but my V6 is the MPI version. Zero issues 150,000 freedom unis in.
Santa Fe/ Sorrento ask available in dieselhere.
My dude has the diesel Tuscon. Brilliant car. Zero issues.
Hi Scott, I don't know where people post questions to you so I thought I would do it here... I have a 2012 Audi Q5 3.2 V6 with 122000 miles and the engine and transmission are running great, I had a P2181 code and replaced the Coolant Temp Sensor as it cost $10 and took me 2 mins and reset the check engine light but it came back on. I guess it is the thermostat but the car doesn't heat up past the normal range and I get about 18 mpg avg which is typical.
My experience with Kia was very very bad. My experience with an old Hyundai Sonata was actually pretty good. But considering all the very serious engine recalls in the last ten years no thanks.
2023 Santa Fe Hybrid
Excellent vehicle, beautiful layout, amazing mileage for its size. Only vehicle ive ever seen punch ABOVE its rated mpgs! Rated for 33 in the city and I would regularly get 36+.
I would not want an older Kia or Hyundai before they went through their Renaissance, circa 2020.
That fuse thing is even worse when it comes to PHEVs and hybrids, as they (Kia) use a multi-cell pack totaling 360 volts, so that extra 25A is allowing an additional 9000W power through those wires. I sure hope they're capable of handling it...
A relative's Kia Seltos consumed its oil and seized the engine. This turned out to be common. Yikes. We had a Kia Sorento V6. Its parking brake broke in the locked position and had to be towed to be fixed. Its windshield washer pump cracked. The tailgate spoiler bolt failed. Its suspension started to creak in cool weather. We traded this one for a RAV4. We inherited a Hyundai Santa Fe. Its infotainment system reboots A LOT. Its suspension is starting to creak in cool weather. In really cold weather, the starter turns the motor for a solid 5 seconds before it starts. Sigh!
I bought a 2006 Suzuki Aerio brand new for 17k. I drove that thing for 14 years and put 108,000 miles on it. Not one single repair. Only replacing consumables. I sold it with the original alternator still going strong on it.
Transmission in these vehicles are made by Powertech of America. That’s the problem with the transmissions. Crappy engineered transmission that fail testing ( internal quality control system at the plant) and instead of replacing failed transmissions they take them apart and reassemble them and then try to get them to pass testing afterwards. Sometimes they do sometimes they don’t, point is it’s a poor quality control process at the factory where they assemble them. They also tend to have a lot of issues with the internal valve bodies that cause a lot of these issues.
Most Hyundai / Kia's are ok and don't have major issues BUT there is a significant percentage of vehicles that do have issues. If you have the latter you soon discover the warrantee is just a piece of paper.
Had a 2019 optima s that I just got rid of that had seriously wonky tranny problems. Got it used just under 20k miles... 10k miles later and it started acting up. I also had it idling once and the electronics all lit up on the dash for no reason then turned off. Once it started reving up to 5k at 20mph, I knew i needed to get rid of it ASAP. Crazy how it seems that this is a common occurrence w kia.
Mt wife's '19 Sportage has been great. More than I expected ,it being our 1st KIA. She now wants a newer one.....
2018 2.4 Santa Fe sport started burning oil at about 90,000 engine blew up at 100000 I'm at 122000 just tires and brakes I bought the car new. Retired now I only put about 8000 miles a year on it planning on keeping it till it gets a 175000 pretty confident the new motor will last long I've never had a transmission problem or change the fluid if the drivetrain holds up I'll be good. 200.00 Walmart battery yesterday.
I bought a new 2016 Sonata with 6 speed and 2.4L. Very comfortable and quiet. Great mpg. Problem was it just wouldn't track right and wandered going down the road. Very tiring to drive. Dealer was crickets. Traded after 5500 miles. Too bad.
A friend's did that because of a defective axle assembly.
I've has a good run with my Hyundai's . I service them myself change engine oil every 5000kms and automatic transmission oil every 2 years. My toyota hilux ln106 I've had for 26yrs same service engine and transmission in exellent condition.
Detailed Invoices: Repair shops usually provide a detailed invoice listing all the work done, including the parts that were replaced. This serves as proof that the parts were indeed replaced.
Warranty on Parts: Some shops offer a warranty on parts they replace, which can serve as an indirect proof that the parts were replaced.
Have two KIA's, one high mileage and one low mileage. As soon as I get a car I change ALL of the fluids. Many car owners just never maintain their cars. Kia's and Hyundai's need to have their PCV valves changed at 25,000 to 30,000 miles intervals and regular oil changes which most owners don't do and wonder why rings stick and burn oil ? Also, a periodic valve cleaning helps due to carbon build up on valves.
2016 Kia Sorento engine died at 95k miles. Under warranty, so Kia replaced it with a used engine (I asked, and they said it’s not new).
Exactly a year later, now at 110k miles, engine messed up again.
After getting it repaired by Kia, I sold it. I trust my much older Toyota over Kia any day.
The funny thing is my 2006 sonata gl v6 is completely and utterly reliable. That was when they were trying to impress and frankly it's impressive. Replaced the brakes and struts and a window visor. Also drag raced a prelude and blew his doors off.
Yeah you don't save any money by buying a Kia or Hyundai. Maybe when they were only 11k brand new you did save money. But now they cost nearly the same as a Camry or Corolla.
I just got a toyota carmry with 19k miles as a rental. Not sure if it's a cvt or a auto but it shifts rough as hell. It accelerates smooth in gear with light pedal pressure, but the shifts aren't. A little more gas and the car kind of laughs at me. Saying I'm a toyota not a wrx subaru. The 1986 subaru justy gl and 87 Ford escort gl with a manual I had 30+ years ago shifted smoother. Idk maybe my hatred of auto/cvt trans is clouding my opinion.