Breakfast meta: Put flakes into the bowl first, then add milk. Also: “Milk in the bowl first” opener Flash: Eats flakes first, drinks milk later. Artosis: WHAAAAT?! I’m getting chills!
I can't help but feel if Flash kept his wraith alive and went up to 3 total he could've bonked the shuttle defense. Perhaps utilizing more wraiths in small numbers to counter shuttles is going to be something Terran need to work on?
@@theSato yes but 1. You can still zone with them 2. I'm looking at the guy vying to be rhe best in the world. Sucks for lower players but I think he could make it work. The. Toss mihht need to start getting sairs and well see sairs in tvp to contest sky control.... big if!!
@@Okiwano there was a pro game a while ago where the terran made wraiths to counter carriers and the protoss made corsairs then the terran made valkyries haha, that was a crazy game
True that, wraiths can protect a push from an annoying shuttle. And they move in and out fast so they won't be exposed to dragoon fire too much. Once the starport is done, getting 2 more wraiths is like just 200 extra gas.
I've heard Arty say before that what you've suggested is the strat Light developed to counter Snow's reaver micro whittling his army down as it pushes.
Seen this game casted on another channel but watching it again makes it feel like I'm watching it for the first time 😊. 5 star quality and worth the wait
I dont understand why they dont keep the wraith alive, build more and even research cloak. Snow is using reaver shuttle the entire game, the value of those wraiths would only increase
the idea isn't totally without merit, but, just having a couple of Dragoons around really shuts down wraith play -- they are made out of paper and only ticklebeam ground units. of course toss can just get 1 obs and place it nearby if you spend the money on cloak and research a whole piece of tech for 3 units.
@@theSato They dont need to be used aggressively. First of, just keeping one wraith alive shuts down all shuttle reaver harassment play, which is very high value. Having more also helps deal with shuttles on the terran push. With cloak even more so. About observers countering cloak, well wraiths with scan counter observers. So it goes both ways. And the more observers you kill, the more you tax the robotics bay. Snows entire strategy revolves around robotics units, shuttles and racers, so he cannot have lots of observers. The more you kill observers the more he has to delay the shuttle reaver or play without observers, so both are super worth it. I think against this style, more wraiths even with cloak is probably very strong but pros just are not used to playin wraiths.
@@MD-yd8lh Dragoons do full damage to Wraiths and outrange them. Speed Shuttles can keep away from Wraiths fairly easily as a result, especially when dropping Reavers, which also have fairly long range.
hey, if you are microing the fight at the right time, and you think ahead about possibilities, and you're ready to do it in advance -- you can do some sick micro plays like this sometimes. it's not the hardest thing in the world to do that, its just hard to do it consistently, or keep up with macro at the same time lol
he's definitely beatable (especially in the other matchups aside from TvP), but there is no doubt that his TvP is very strong -- his reaver shenanigans are really difficult to play against as Terran.
Snow is so incredible man...he was playing out of his mind. Look how amazingly strong Flash opened this game and snow is still able to pull it out in the end.
Arty! Can you please translate the player chat at the start of the game when present? I'd love to know what mundane things two juggernauts like Snow and Flash say to each other!
Arty was right about Terran being massively disadvantaged as soon as the slightest error is made and this game is a good example of that. @13:45 ,moving one extra tank up or @16:47 only moving the entire army. Either move, if done correctly would have killed that Nexus and Terran would have been way ahead where Protoss would not have any money left to start/saturate the 5th base. I can imagine SNOW's evil laugh when scarab damage upgrade started...
i think this build from flash was somethign he decided to do because of the low amount of gateways he saw in snows base, really cool to see the wraith usage to counter the shuttle
It’s very clear to me after these two games that Flash has purposefully been playing outdated upgrade Terran against “lesser” Protoss just to test and this is his real TvP power level.
Everyone knows that Wario is lame, and Waluigi is a character that jumps the shark for Mario. Mario was over once they rolled out Waluigi. What’s next, Wapeach? Gtfo of here.
Artosis posting a million flash videos basically all in a row is why when flash plays in tournaments I want him to lose because the longer he’s in it the more that’s the only thing people talk about Yes he’s the goat I’m not saying he’s not I’m saying it’s annoying how that’s peoples only focus when he’s in a tournament even on the days he’s not playing. It gets very very old very very fast t
Can you say Flash is contouring to grow rapidly and will soon crack the new meta? Really Been checking everyday to see if you made a flash video Keep it Up !!’ I am sure people support the idea of more daily flash games :D 🎉
Ok, I haven't watch this yet. But I was wondering from the last VS Snow Game if Flash was "FORCED to build a Wrath as upgrade terrain vs shuttle reaver... then went "oh my god I love wrath vs Reaver" because it fits in so nicely with the build. If so it would raise and interesting question: Namely, "Can Flash not just watch Light or Mind and figure out this is good himself?" Part of the "Fun" of watching Flash here (for me at least) is trying to figure out how this man attacks the complex puzzle that is is SC1. Some things he does make sense to me so far... 1. He's REFUSING to do anything Defensive other players have to do... This makes sense because Flash's Micro is likely better... especially SCV Micro. As well as his decision making. So He's going to need to SEE for himself if he needs those turrets and NEEDS those mines... and NEEDS that Wrath... for example. There is a Concept in high-level PvP theory Craft that goes "We can do this but we don't WANT to. We will ONLY do this if we are FORCED too". And so far Flash is sussing out his own "Has to here and doesn't' have to there" 2. Flash is honestly being a bit stubborn in my assessment in not incorporating any of the other top terrain innovations vs modern protoss and even zerg. But when you are a Genius at something on the caliber of Flash... you will VERY quickly find that BY FAR the BEST thing to do... is IGNORE what other players are TELLING you needs to be done... and blunder into it yourself blindly. Don't even WATCH other play or guides. Look into yourself. Because you will find and see things no one else did and very quickly begin to define the Meta. I have experienced this a number of times with my own "Classic WoW Paladin PvP Guide" channel. In that games PvP what GEAR you ware as Paladin dictates not just the flow of PvP but what you CAN and CANNOT DO. What is viable and nonviable at any given time. Flash is going to FIND the SC1 Equivalent of +10% more value at X point in the game somewhere... open up possibilities that did not exist before... for attack or expansion... and Ride that small advantage into more advantage. And Jam it down his opponents throat tell they choke on it. If you watch is Play style. He eventually becomes this TERRIFYING dance partner... that knows when he's strong and when and where his opponent is weak. How many games, especially vs zerg, have we seen where Queen is sown up tight on 4 bases... getting ultra defiler and Flash just fines some point of weakness after sharking around for it for 5m and rips his face off. That might be what we remember... but it's almost always the LEAD up to that is ten times more important. Flash to me... seems to be sorting that out for himself now... and likely having a blast with this riddle of Toss and Zerg all the other Terrains have been struggling with. My Prediction = 1. He's going to figure out the opening 2. Then he will figure out the Dance of Early Mid game... (3 fac here... 4 fac there... 5 fac all in here... double expand there... roam vulture tank dropship here) 3. Then he will figure out Mid game proper... (Mind you he will have 20 more supply then any other terrain in the world at this point because he's NAILED 1 and 2). And the game will look completely different from then on to any other Terrain can do in the world.
''You wanna know how I got these scars? My father was a Vulture and a fiend and one night, he goes off CRAZIER than usual. Mommy Nexus gets the kitchen knife Reaver to defend herself. He doesn't like that. Not. One. Bit. So, me watching, he takes the factory push to her, laughing while he does it. He turns to me and says, "Why so serious?" Comes at me with the drop. "WHY SO SERIOUS?" He sticks the Spidermine in my mouth... "Let's put a smile on that face." And... !'' "WHY SO SERIOUS?"
Flash played great this game but a few big mistakes really cost him. Would love to see him keep improving, but god Sn0w is just a monster at this matchup, and it seems like he's getting over his nerves. If he could just handle those tough moments on stage to win some tournaments, he could absolutely be the first Protoss Bonjwa.
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Breakfast meta: Put flakes into the bowl first, then add milk.
Also: “Milk in the bowl first” opener
Flash: Eats flakes first, drinks milk later.
Artosis: WHAAAAT?! I’m getting chills!
Cerealsly!
"I know what I'm doing tonight," Artosis said licentiously.
Every time Mrs Artosis wants to talk about another baby, Flash drops a new build and Artosis is busy for a week.
He’s gonna try this in upcoming rematch against Snow
@@jaycehso that explains why RT has so many kids. Because Flash went to the army
@@ryannguyen7466and still lose?
Loading up his favourite Mario stories
Flash would have stopped my parents getting a divorce
😂 thanks for the laugh
"I know what I'm doing tonight"
I feel so bad for Artowife when he starts screaming Flashes name in the bedroom later on
You spell Wifetosis wrong
"Oh yea, oh yea he changed the meta!"
fucking speed vultures, aah..!
sorry babe, your orgasm didnt make. i ordered it to make, but it just didnt.
“Show me your build order”
10:06 ❄️ Deep Chills ❄️ confirmed 😂
Repeat chills 🥶 are primed and activated! Chills primed and activated!
just gonna gloss over Snow microing a Dragoon phasing through minerals to chase that SCV @4:27
classic dragoon moment
that's wild.........
Destroying two bases and GGing almost at the same instance means this game is absolutely unique
10:55 Artosis became a southern preacher for a moment
26 years later, and we’re still seeing new things, amazing!
🐐 game
4:25 the Dragoon walks through the minerals, lol.
As soon as you see the robo the world is your oyster WHAT THE HELL IS THIS
*Flash breaths in an uncommon way*
Artosis: Im getting Goosebumps here !! CHills all over my body!
Tbh one doesn’t just breath uncommonly. It’s gonna give people chills!
10:55 my new favorite arty moment
OHHH jayzus.
it was amazing and i loved it, dont get to see spider mines do that often to an enemy mineral line
I can't help but feel if Flash kept his wraith alive and went up to 3 total he could've bonked the shuttle defense.
Perhaps utilizing more wraiths in small numbers to counter shuttles is going to be something Terran need to work on?
maybe, but Protoss doesn't have to do additional investment to counter your wraith -- it only takes a couple of goons to shoo away your paper planes.
@@theSato yes but
1. You can still zone with them
2. I'm looking at the guy vying to be rhe best in the world. Sucks for lower players but I think he could make it work. The. Toss mihht need to start getting sairs and well see sairs in tvp to contest sky control.... big if!!
@@Okiwano there was a pro game a while ago where the terran made wraiths to counter carriers and the protoss made corsairs then the terran made valkyries haha, that was a crazy game
True that, wraiths can protect a push from an annoying shuttle. And they move in and out fast so they won't be exposed to dragoon fire too much. Once the starport is done, getting 2 more wraiths is like just 200 extra gas.
I've heard Arty say before that what you've suggested is the strat Light developed to counter Snow's reaver micro whittling his army down as it pushes.
Flash targeting that mine is actually insane
My favorite moment of this game
12:16 for quick replay
lol deep chills + goose bumps every flash game
10:55 Lord have mercy
Lahwd
10:54 OH JAYZUZ!
5:03 was hysterical
Spoiler blocker
Farming karma on an Artosis video 😂
Thanks. Lots of spoilers recently
Thanks 👍
Spoiler bunker is better
Should have been an easy win for flash but he missed the 12' warp probe by a split second
Seen this game casted on another channel but watching it again makes it feel like I'm watching it for the first time 😊. 5 star quality and worth the wait
if you didn't wait for it, can you really say "it was worth the wait"? haha
ahaha me too. I was wating for Arty to cast this game so bad. I knew it was coming
@@theSato right on the spot man.I mean, his name is 'neveragain' of course he wasn't wating for it. I was wating for it, I deserve all the credit ^^
I dont understand why they dont keep the wraith alive, build more and even research cloak. Snow is using reaver shuttle the entire game, the value of those wraiths would only increase
the idea isn't totally without merit, but, just having a couple of Dragoons around really shuts down wraith play -- they are made out of paper and only ticklebeam ground units. of course toss can just get 1 obs and place it nearby if you spend the money on cloak and research a whole piece of tech for 3 units.
agreed, i think 2 wraiths with cloak could be deadly.
Wraiths are super underutilized imo, its a great unit. Build a couple and go raid a mineral line like its SC2.
@@theSato They dont need to be used aggressively. First of, just keeping one wraith alive shuts down all shuttle reaver harassment play, which is very high value. Having more also helps deal with shuttles on the terran push. With cloak even more so.
About observers countering cloak, well wraiths with scan counter observers. So it goes both ways. And the more observers you kill, the more you tax the robotics bay. Snows entire strategy revolves around robotics units, shuttles and racers, so he cannot have lots of observers. The more you kill observers the more he has to delay the shuttle reaver or play without observers, so both are super worth it.
I think against this style, more wraiths even with cloak is probably very strong but pros just are not used to playin wraiths.
Thanks for casting the games Arto. Excited to see what we get next in Starcraft, which is wild to say after so many years!
It was really close to being a Flash victory here. Insane build!!
If he had just concentrated his forces they wouldn't have been picked apart.
Still find Reaver Shuttle is too OP
@@deepzerocool why do not counter this with couple of wraiths?
@@MD-yd8lh Dragoons do full damage to Wraiths and outrange them. Speed Shuttles can keep away from Wraiths fairly easily as a result, especially when dropping Reavers, which also have fairly long range.
I actually can’t believe Flash targeted his own mine at 12:15. I’ll never reach that level. 😂
hey, if you are microing the fight at the right time, and you think ahead about possibilities, and you're ready to do it in advance -- you can do some sick micro plays like this sometimes.
it's not the hardest thing in the world to do that, its just hard to do it consistently, or keep up with macro at the same time lol
"... Goose bumps right now!.."
My wife: Haven't you seen this one already. Me: no its just something he says every cast.
Thanks for casting, this was a great game. I love the history you bring to the game and the stories you tell to give context.
0:00 prediction:
“I’m actually getting chills right now”
10:55 The spirit of an African American southern preacher temporarily overtook Arty and made him testify.😂
3:55 i love how you had to correct yourself after realizing there is no world where flash doesn't micro well because he is GOD
Snow holding out there by the skin of his feet.
Thanks for fking spoiler.
@@blacklight4720 Enjoy son. You earned it.
I don’t think Snow is beatable anymore
he's definitely beatable (especially in the other matchups aside from TvP), but there is no doubt that his TvP is very strong -- his reaver shenanigans are really difficult to play against as Terran.
This one was close though. If you disable his reaver with wraiths or some other methods, it becomes a lot easier.
The 30hp nexus defended at all cost was amazing. We need more of those defenses.
I love watching flash play snow it always bring out the best of both of them
Snow is so incredible man...he was playing out of his mind. Look how amazingly strong Flash opened this game and snow is still able to pull it out in the end.
Ranken ladder number 1 in 1998. Akas: 1st~Chensta 1st~GhostMirza Bussdriver. Reporting after 26 years. I miss this game 😢😢😢
This "OH JEEZAS" will be my new SMS sound xD Arty reacted to the game like a guy in a horror movie who's just seen his wife beheaded
I'm happy Flash is back to playing Terran after winning with that Hydra bust a couple days ago on CastsFlash
Arty! Can you please translate the player chat at the start of the game when present? I'd love to know what mundane things two juggernauts like Snow and Flash say to each other!
“What about that heat wave…”
“Bruh…”
actual translation:
Flash: what did you do last match
Flash: protoss ____ ? (idk the blank)
Flash: is that right?
SnOw: yeah
@@theSato probably protoss bullshit
Awesome build and fantastic play. That close game was a treat.
Holy what a game man! Nice comeback from Snow. Flash could kill 12 o clock with dropship 1 tank and 1 SV+EMP @14:15 is the pivotal moment
FlasH is cracking the code, he's getting the download.
Arty was right about Terran being massively disadvantaged as soon as the slightest error is made and this game is a good example of that.
@13:45 ,moving one extra tank up or @16:47 only moving the entire army. Either move, if done correctly would have killed that Nexus and Terran would have been way ahead where Protoss would not have any money left to start/saturate the 5th base.
I can imagine SNOW's evil laugh when scarab damage upgrade started...
12:18 that minedrag attempt fail with flash targetting it damn
No other contest will ever be blessed with a commentator on the level of Artosis
I love Arty and it is from this place of love that I say we need a new way to express the feeling behind the phrase "I'm getting chills right now" 🙏🖖😘
Artosis’ Timbers have officially been shivered
10:55 "OH JAAAAAY-ZUS!" 😂😂😂
_TERRAN BROTHAS-SAH AND SISTAS-SAH! CAN I GET AN AMEN-NAH!_
“Oooohhh Jaysus!” 😂
Excellent shuttle/reaver play by Snow.
Nothing has been able to 'break' the game in 25 years but I'm scared SnOw will keep finding ways to improve reavers and make PvT unplayable
Strap in boys, we are in for another ride.
14:23 SCV “WITNESS ME!!!”
i think this build from flash was somethign he decided to do because of the low amount of gateways he saw in snows base, really cool to see the wraith usage to counter the shuttle
I can't believe Flash lost that. Amazing play by Snow
Great Game, had so much fun watching it! Thank you for casting!
Dude, absolutely incredible game. Thanks for the cast!
Great game, thanks for casting Artois!
feels like flash trying to find a way around the BS reaver shuttle early game
I’m so glad I found this channel called ArtosisCastsFlash! 😏
But Snow is so cracked on his micro. He might actually still be a pro gamer off Protoss
It’s very clear to me after these two games that Flash has purposefully been playing outdated upgrade Terran against “lesser” Protoss just to test and this is his real TvP power level.
13:07 dropship dies - its the dot between 9 o'clock and center
this is really great arti, I hope for more flash games, what an exciting time to be alive. Thanks for casting all these games!
Just Flash things. So glad he's active again. Hoping as we probably lots of us are, he competes for asl.
Amazing game, that targetting of the mine was some next level move
Almost unsubbed after hearing you say on stream that Wario and Waluigi are lame. You're on thin ice now buddy boy, all i'm gonna say.
Come on. Give Ɐrty a break
@@vincentauronward347 appreciate your creativity, since you could've just say Wartosis and be done with it
Everyone knows that Wario is lame, and Waluigi is a character that jumps the shark for Mario. Mario was over once they rolled out Waluigi. What’s next, Wapeach? Gtfo of here.
@@Dziaji you just made me Google Wapeach and I don't forgive you
@@vincentauronward347 uh oh, now I have to do that. I didn't know it was already a thing.
I can't believe Snow defended that initial push on the third. Don't think any other protoss player holds that.
Artosis posting a million flash videos basically all in a row is why when flash plays in tournaments I want him to lose because the longer he’s in it the more that’s the only thing people talk about
Yes he’s the goat I’m not saying he’s not I’m saying it’s annoying how that’s peoples only focus when he’s in a tournament even on the days he’s not playing. It gets very very old very very fast t
Can you say Flash is contouring to grow rapidly and will soon crack the new meta?
Really
Been checking everyday to see if you made a flash video Keep it
Up !!’ I am sure people support the idea of more daily flash games :D 🎉
the terran coping this entire game is glorious
never change, toast, never change
we're only missing useless
Keep it coming, love to see Flash
12:15
anti-mine drag new metaaaa lets gooooo
9:57 LMFAO ARTY
That ramp is OP
Arto, I'm impressed how u remember every BO.
Ok, I haven't watch this yet. But I was wondering from the last VS Snow Game if Flash was "FORCED to build a Wrath as upgrade terrain vs shuttle reaver... then went "oh my god I love wrath vs Reaver" because it fits in so nicely with the build.
If so it would raise and interesting question: Namely, "Can Flash not just watch Light or Mind and figure out this is good himself?"
Part of the "Fun" of watching Flash here (for me at least) is trying to figure out how this man attacks the complex puzzle that is is SC1.
Some things he does make sense to me so far...
1. He's REFUSING to do anything Defensive other players have to do... This makes sense because Flash's Micro is likely better... especially SCV Micro. As well as his decision making. So He's going to need to SEE for himself if he needs those turrets and NEEDS those mines... and NEEDS that Wrath... for example.
There is a Concept in high-level PvP theory Craft that goes "We can do this but we don't WANT to. We will ONLY do this if we are FORCED too". And so far Flash is sussing out his own "Has to here and doesn't' have to there"
2. Flash is honestly being a bit stubborn in my assessment in not incorporating any of the other top terrain innovations vs modern protoss and even zerg. But when you are a Genius at something on the caliber of Flash... you will VERY quickly find that BY FAR the BEST thing to do... is IGNORE what other players are TELLING you needs to be done... and blunder into it yourself blindly.
Don't even WATCH other play or guides. Look into yourself. Because you will find and see things no one else did and very quickly begin to define the Meta.
I have experienced this a number of times with my own "Classic WoW Paladin PvP Guide" channel.
In that games PvP what GEAR you ware as Paladin dictates not just the flow of PvP but what you CAN and CANNOT DO. What is viable and nonviable at any given time.
Flash is going to FIND the SC1 Equivalent of +10% more value at X point in the game somewhere... open up possibilities that did not exist before... for attack or expansion... and Ride that small advantage into more advantage. And Jam it down his opponents throat tell they choke on it.
If you watch is Play style. He eventually becomes this TERRIFYING dance partner... that knows when he's strong and when and where his opponent is weak.
How many games, especially vs zerg, have we seen where Queen is sown up tight on 4 bases... getting ultra defiler and Flash just fines some point of weakness after sharking around for it for 5m and rips his face off.
That might be what we remember... but it's almost always the LEAD up to that is ten times more important.
Flash to me... seems to be sorting that out for himself now... and likely having a blast with this riddle of Toss and Zerg all the other Terrains have been struggling with.
My Prediction =
1. He's going to figure out the opening
2. Then he will figure out the Dance of Early Mid game... (3 fac here... 4 fac there... 5 fac all in here... double expand there... roam vulture tank dropship here)
3. Then he will figure out Mid game proper... (Mind you he will have 20 more supply then any other terrain in the world at this point because he's NAILED 1 and 2).
And the game will look completely different from then on to any other Terrain can do in the world.
Finally flash triea something new and fresh and not banging hes head against the wall with hes old builds that fail and fail. Loving it!
Literally can’t believe the outcome of this one. Insane game
What a game. Wraith with cloak hit squad needed for Snow’s shuttle efficiency. GG!
I lold so hard at you “oh JESUS!”
One of the best games I've seen! So intense.
Deep chills status: achieved
The passion is always appreciated Artois.
*taps vein via Flash upload
"Ahhhhh, that's the stuff."
I waited today 30 seconds for this game to show up. Let's go!
Flash deserved that win, but Snow had a LOT of luck with that nexus.
If the reaver is exactly next to the minerals it can shoot trough it.
I'm getting chills.
the fact that protoss wins this game shows you how broken this matchup is
When there's a wraith on the thumbnail you know it's gonna be good
''You wanna know how I got these scars? My father was a Vulture and a fiend and one night, he goes off CRAZIER than usual. Mommy Nexus gets the kitchen knife Reaver to defend herself. He doesn't like that. Not. One. Bit. So, me watching, he takes the factory push to her, laughing while he does it. He turns to me and says, "Why so serious?" Comes at me with the drop. "WHY SO SERIOUS?" He sticks the Spidermine in my mouth... "Let's put a smile on that face." And... !''
"WHY SO SERIOUS?"
Sc1 art is gorgeous holy shit
Flash: Goes 2 base mech with a wraith thrown in to counter the shuttle/reaver that Snow is well known for
Artosis: tHiS iS aMaZiNg!!
Guys this time it was *the deepest* chills
5:05 "What the *hell* is this!?"
WHAT.THE HELL IS THIS?
Excellent
deep chills @ 10:08
Great game, flash is getting there
Flash should've made 4 wraiths after the failed push on the third to snipe it and clear reaver harass afterwards.
Flash played great this game but a few big mistakes really cost him. Would love to see him keep improving, but god Sn0w is just a monster at this matchup, and it seems like he's getting over his nerves. If he could just handle those tough moments on stage to win some tournaments, he could absolutely be the first Protoss Bonjwa.