Top Three Exercises for Scheuermann's Disease

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  • Опубликовано: 19 ноя 2024

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  • @jflsdknf
    @jflsdknf 2 года назад +15

    I've been dealing with Schueremann's pain since high school, I'm 34 now and can't work. The pain and all around discomfort this disease causes everyday is unreal. In my case my curve is fusing together itself to try to stabilize it. Doctors know nothing about this but I finally found an SD specialist who knew what he was talking about. Still no good treatments options for us though. These exercises are a waste of time. The only thing that gives me temporary relief is cold laser treatment. Guess there's not much you can do about a deformed spine except take one day at a time.

  • @leosullivan9228
    @leosullivan9228 4 года назад +8

    my Scheurmann's is associated with repeated, juvenile heavy-metal exposure to Mercury.
    Leg work- squats, stretching, "Thai Massage" - and a lot of meditation have reduced the pain; but. in 40 years I've found ONE professional who has improved my posture, Paul Weston of Orinda, California

    • @jflsdknf
      @jflsdknf 2 года назад +1

      How do you know it's associated with mercury?

    • @Kirajiren
      @Kirajiren Год назад

      Yeah, how

  • @jennypockets
    @jennypockets 9 лет назад +80

    Ok, this might work for postural kyphosis but since the bones are the wrong shape to straighten in Scheuermann's disease, I don't see how this can help.

    • @astalavisitor
      @astalavisitor 7 лет назад +7

      amen

    • @nooshimd1476
      @nooshimd1476 3 года назад +1

      I think it can modify the symptoms and rigidity of the spine.

    • @stargazer2042
      @stargazer2042 3 года назад +2

      Hopefully, but not what experts say. I bet I can build a brace that can pull it straight. Won't change the wedge, but maybe stretch that ligament a bit.

    • @stargazer2042
      @stargazer2042 3 года назад +5

      Strengthen the muscles enough, and they can keep your back from getting worse. Gravity keeps pulling. If you relax into it, it will wedge the disks and collapse even the wedge vertebrae. It will stretch your back muscles and rear ligaments. Strengthen the back, and you can stay where you are at and maybe avoid surgery.

    • @philipt.8087
      @philipt.8087 Год назад +10

      Exactly this. If you have actual Scheuermann's Disease then you can’t put your back against a flat surface. I’m starting to think that nobody understands this disease nor how to treat it. It’s very frustrating.

  • @arougerehman7621
    @arougerehman7621 5 лет назад +26

    Since childhood growth, I was told STRAIGHTEN YOUR BACK,; DON'T SLOUCH, DO PRESS UPS, WORK ON STRENGTHENING YOUR BACK MUSCLES. I'm 25 now... "disease" is still there. This video has just brought back all those memories of torturous methods.
    - a chiropractor West London W2 (outside St Marys Hospital) said physiotherapists are bound to recommend these methods as that's all they can do within their field. And he didn't recommend "STRAIGHTEN YOUR BACK" as that just inflammes the vertebrae.

    • @oscarrodrigueziv9653
      @oscarrodrigueziv9653 4 года назад +13

      Hey im 26 now. I have this so called "schuremans disease"
      Ive been in major pain since i was 15 years old.
      I was told there isnt a cure for this.
      The only thing I found that helps is staying active and strengthing your muscles.
      Its bad enough to have weak bones let alone weak muscles. You need muscle to support your spine.
      Ive been bes ridden a few times so take my advice.
      Start with body weight exercise and go from there.
      SQUATS have been the best thing to ever happen to me.!!

    • @leosullivan9228
      @leosullivan9228 4 года назад +3

      indeed! these reactionary fixes are toxic abuse . The pain is real and has a source

    • @Bill_Brasky
      @Bill_Brasky 4 года назад +4

      @@oscarrodrigueziv9653 Yes! I'm 37 and have a similar story. SQUATS! SQUATS! SQUATS!

    • @stargazer2042
      @stargazer2042 3 года назад +1

      How do squats help you? What kind of squats?

    • @GregoryShtevensh
      @GregoryShtevensh Год назад

      @@Bill_Brasky how do squats help? I have pain every day and it only started at 35 (im 38 now).
      Was told it was shuemermans after X-rays

  • @allisonmarsden596
    @allisonmarsden596 3 года назад +12

    These are classic postural kyphosis exercises and some with Scheuermann's disease may be able to perform these, while others may not. What we don't know is if we can reduce the kyphosis over time by keeping the postural system strong and supportive in those with the disease. It seems logical to try. Adding postural kyphosis on top of Scheuermann's disease will likely exacerbate the anterior end plate of the vertebrae and lead to even more problems down the road.

    • @ladyjane9980
      @ladyjane9980 3 года назад +3

      @allison Marsden, Hi, I am 53 and was diagnosed with Scheuermann's at age 15. Unfortunately I stopped growing at 14, and my condition was left by the wayside, now it is debilitating. I have an appointment with my doctor shortly, but am wondering if these exercises can improve the posture at this stage? Any info you may have would bee most appreciated. - Jennifer

    • @sc301969
      @sc301969 3 года назад +2

      Excellent comment! While we may never be able to correct the actual disease itself, its almost certain that postural kyphosis will continue and increase over time if left unchecked. Increased postural strength and keeping the vertebrae mobile can only increase the quality of life of the individual.

    • @stargazer2042
      @stargazer2042 3 года назад +1

      I think you need a custom made brace combined with neck traction and a lot of time lying in it on your back. Then continue wearing the brace to avoid bad posture. If you already are well past 50 degrees, gravity will make it worse any time you are verticle. Recline as much as you can while still exercising and working. You can risk surgery now or wait for advances. I've seen current surgery and would rather wait. I have that luxury at only 45 degrees.

    • @jflsdknf
      @jflsdknf 2 года назад +1

      @@ladyjane9980 Jennifer, how is your pain? My Schueremann's was untreated as a teen too. It is a constant problem and limits my life every single day. My pain is relieved by laying down or reclining.

    • @ladyjane9980
      @ladyjane9980 2 года назад

      @@jflsdknf My back has been numb for many year and was never treated, so am looking into surgery now. The pain that I do have is nerve pain, specifically pins and needles.

  • @jflsdknf
    @jflsdknf 3 года назад +30

    How will this help the vertebral wedging in Scheuermann's? Everyone seems to think it's the same thing as postural kyphosis.

    • @GregoryShtevensh
      @GregoryShtevensh Год назад +4

      I have this, was xrayed 3 years ago, and it showed rounding in the front of the thoracic vertebrae.
      I've been looking for a fix ever since!
      I was in brilliant shape physically before I started getting issues, and the degeneration of my physical form has lead to suicidal thoughts

    • @Noble-z7v
      @Noble-z7v 3 месяца назад

      Nothing will help with the vertebral wedging. It’s a permanent deformity. We’re stuck with it, all we can do is try to slow the degenerative effects. I’m 32 now and it’s starting to kick my ass.

    • @jflsdknf
      @jflsdknf 3 месяца назад +1

      @@Noble-z7v Yeah it sucks so bad. I'm 36 and just got on SSDI for it a year ago. My curve has caused so much arthritis it's starting to fuse together.

    • @tim32890
      @tim32890 2 месяца назад

      @@jflsdknf sorry to hear about your issue. If you don’t mind me asking how severe was your curve to begin with ? Mine is supposedly mild case of SD however it does cause a lot of tightness on my middle back and I therefore keep doing mobility exercises to maintain flexibility. I know it’s nothing we can reverse but is there anything that can be done to stop it from getting worse as we age ?

    • @jflsdknf
      @jflsdknf 2 месяца назад

      @@tim32890 My actual curve is mild, but it's kind of sharp angled, and it has caused 80 degree lordosis below it as my body has tried to compensate. As for helping it I can only speak from my experience, but I would highly advise taking care not to perform strenuous work, anything involving too much twisting or lifting. Even starting in high school jobs like this used to absolutely kill my back and looking back now I never should have done them. I believe it accelerated the arthritis there. Our vertebrae being wedged is much more prone to arthritis from rubbing together.

  • @chinonsomichaelude4605
    @chinonsomichaelude4605 4 года назад +2

    Bob and Brad are just awesome.

  • @thomasmckearney9798
    @thomasmckearney9798 9 лет назад +8

    My understanding is that because Scheuermann's is a result of compressed vertebrae, the only way to reverse it is surgery. On the otherhand, if you have postural kyphosis, then these exercises will work.
    Are you saying these exercises will help to reduce progression/pain, or are you saying that they will actually reverse the curvature?
    Interested in your thoughts.

    • @jadavalderaz3271
      @jadavalderaz3271 8 лет назад +6

      This is necessarily true. I'm 15 and was diagnosed with schuermann's disease 8 months ago and I also have scoliosis. My curve is at 64 degrees so my doctors treatment plan until I am done growing was physical therapy and bracing. We do many of these exercises in physical therapy and I have found that physical therapy is the only way to release the everyday pain for me. You are correct that the only way to reverse it is surgery but with this disease your curve has to at least be at about 72 degrees to do surgery.

    • @heatherlong2162
      @heatherlong2162 7 лет назад

      You are not totally correct. It is not irrelevant for Scheuermann's in an adolescent who is still growing. If the spaces can be opened up by straightening the spine (through bracing and strength), a spine that is still flexible has the ability to grow bone that expands the wedge-shaped vertebrae in the spaces that were compressed before. This cannot be accomplished in a skeletally mature individual whose spine in completely rigid.

    • @heatherlong2162
      @heatherlong2162 7 лет назад

      P.S. Both my daughters have scoliosis and one also has kyphosis. The scoliosis is irreversible (but the curve progression can in many places be stopped); the kyphosis is not necessarily.

    • @11Garrett11
      @11Garrett11 6 лет назад +1

      I would say that absolutes are not necessarily true. Anything is possible.
      Beware of surgery at all costs.

  • @uniqdzign2
    @uniqdzign2 5 лет назад +4

    I have lateral Scheuermann's, which means that my back looked like e question mark from the front, not the side. It took a year and a half to straighten my spine with quiromassage. Although I am straight now, and belive me these excersises are ridiculous for bone and disc malformation, I am left with severe muscle discomfort when standing or walking. If I tried to do this, I'd be screaming in pain!

    • @leosullivan9228
      @leosullivan9228 4 года назад +1

      have you tried any leg-stretches or relaxation tech?

    • @uniqdzign2
      @uniqdzign2 4 года назад

      @@leosullivan9228 I have indeed Leo, and thanks for the message and suggestion. 🙏
      I now have a series of exercises that I can do, which include leg stretching, whilst seated. This keeps me as flexible as I am able to achieve. Thanks again. 👍🙂

    • @kristineill2378
      @kristineill2378 4 года назад

      My 16 year old son has a 90 degree with Sheureminns kyphosis. Do you think this massage could help with pain and improve his curve a little? Is it hard to find people that practice this massage?

    • @uniqdzign2
      @uniqdzign2 4 года назад +1

      @@kristineill2378 Hi! Sorry to hear that Kristin. The practicioner lives in Spain, and her techniques are her own, although she is also a qualified chiromassuer. She is hoping shortly to teach her methods, but that would be with students or already practitioners of chiro massage. So it seems unlikely that you'd see this practiced anywhere else. I wish you and your son, all the best Kristin. 🙏

  • @noonevincecarterfan
    @noonevincecarterfan 10 лет назад +2

    Good stuff guys. Always enjoyed your videos. Having the luxury of having youtube for educational purposes is great for us PTs. Here in Denmark our education really neglecs physical exercises more than you can imagine which really leaves it up to the PT to self educate in that area.

  • @stargazer2042
    @stargazer2042 3 года назад

    If gravity can make it worse, maybe stretching devices can stretch that front ligament and make it better. Or is most the worsening just from bone wedging. If just from wedging, the curve would be flexible. The fact it is not proves the ligament shortens over time. That means it can be stretched over time too, if we can design a device to do that. I think I can.

  • @EVILV3YRON
    @EVILV3YRON 5 лет назад +2

    Thanks for that made a bit of difference

  • @TheTripstraps
    @TheTripstraps 5 лет назад +1

    i could not roll on the ball, it hurts like hell. but there is a point, slow rolling is good but on the floor. laying relaxingly on the floor and carefulli rolling on the spine kida pushes my back back to right place. these ecercises on the ball are bit too advanced, but ok on the floor

  • @AleksVHaecky
    @AleksVHaecky 2 года назад +1

    So, that first exercise feels really, really good -- and triggers inflammation (?) that feels much, much worse the next day. Any tips? (I am beyond your age group.)

  • @chuck0110
    @chuck0110 Год назад

    Hello, greetings from Melbourne, Australia, how often should these exercises be done?

  • @victormalan7663
    @victormalan7663 9 лет назад +10

    hello Bob and Brad, first thing, thank you for the videos/work you guys do :)
    i have a question, i'm 25 years of age, male, about 186cm tall, and i have scheuermann's kyphosis its not to bad, but its there, and due to that and years of working hard i have a thoracic disc herniation, iv stopped all activity, this problem is ruining my life, do you have any advice ?
    regards victor

    • @jennypockets
      @jennypockets 9 лет назад +1

      Victor Malan I'd like to know too, I'm 52 now and my life has now come to a stop, I can't move without pain, I can't stand without severe 'crying, wailing, kill me now' pain and even loaded up with painkillers I'm just about housebound. Oh well, at least other bits of me are still working ok.

    • @jennypockets
      @jennypockets 9 лет назад +1

      +Jennifer Hayes Hmm, no answer came the stern reply +physicaltherapyvideo .

    • @RJ47_AeroMechEngg
      @RJ47_AeroMechEngg 5 лет назад +2

      bro im 21yr i m also have scheuermann's kyphosis....plz help me ....it is getting worse with exercise

    • @leosullivan9228
      @leosullivan9228 4 года назад +1

      i find stretching, esp leg stretch, is more helpful than directly stressing the spine

    • @rockindrew7765
      @rockindrew7765 3 года назад +1

      @@RJ47_AeroMechEngg hey dude, have you ever gotten help? I'm 21 now and suffer severely from pain in the neck, upper and lower back due to this disease and have no help from doctors.

  • @jcweld
    @jcweld Год назад

    Supine twist yoga stretch helps a lot too for me.

  • @stargazer2042
    @stargazer2042 3 года назад

    That soft ball does nothing to shape my hunch back. My back just sinks into it. The towel looks like it might help. I'll try it. I'm glad I'm only at 45 degrees, but I need to keep mine from getting worse.

  • @CalisthenicCreations
    @CalisthenicCreations 9 лет назад +6

    So what if my head doesn't even lay back or what if I can't even push my shoulders back against the wall??? I am barely 30 and I am having a heck of a time with any sort of shoulder mobility, no range of motion it seems in the back and when I try it hurts! Please any help???!!!

  • @gaborgergely3576
    @gaborgergely3576 2 года назад

    What to do if one has post-Scheuermann syndrome and an aching back because of that?

  • @braaitongs
    @braaitongs 2 года назад +1

    What exercises should one do if you have atypical Scheurermann's, ie mine is in lower lumbar.

    • @jflsdknf
      @jflsdknf 2 года назад

      Mine is lower too.

  • @エイスラ
    @エイスラ 9 лет назад

    Great video thanks!

  • @marikitquinones4916
    @marikitquinones4916 3 года назад +1

    Hi, my 10 yr old daughter suffers from scheuermann's disease. Can you recommend exercises that she can do while lying in bed? Need to get some muscles in her arms and legs and her torso, as well. We still don't have diagnosis for her pains in both of her wrist and shoulders, that is why we keep her resting in bed often. Thank you, sirs!

    • @myth0094
      @myth0094 3 года назад +2

      what she needs to do immediately is go to spine doctor and get a sherman’s disease brace. it will completely top the problems before they even begin. and considering she is 10 it is not too late.

  • @alternativesongs2414
    @alternativesongs2414 3 года назад

    I am 19 years old and the degree of convexity is 59, can it be treated with exercises?

  • @jlpps8591
    @jlpps8591 7 лет назад +1

    I'm 38 it hard to find info on this for adults it's all aimed at kids and teens

    • @arougerehman7621
      @arougerehman7621 5 лет назад

      See a chiropractor that helped me

    • @leosullivan9228
      @leosullivan9228 4 года назад

      bc there is no real money in it (except for surgeons)

  • @coreyc408
    @coreyc408 4 года назад

    I'm 33 with sheurmanns disease will this help me?

  • @owenthomas644
    @owenthomas644 6 лет назад +1

    If it means ill have a hunched back, i refuse to believe i have it

  • @amrosik
    @amrosik 9 лет назад +24

    junk. that will cause lower back pain. stop giving junk advices.

    • @DanielDimov358
      @DanielDimov358 8 лет назад +11

      +amrosik That's the problem. People who don't have the disease give suggestions.

    • @jflsdknf
      @jflsdknf 2 года назад +2

      @@DanielDimov358 Nobody knows what they're talking about when it comes to this disease it pisses me off

  • @alonealotta
    @alonealotta 10 лет назад +1

    I really enjoy your very helpful videos~TY for them~Q.how do I get rid of a trigger point right under my scapula on the back you know right at the bra line for a women~I wake up with it almost daily for 10 yrs. sometimes it goes away but never the same way twice~any help would be so appreciated~☼~

    • @alonealotta
      @alonealotta 10 лет назад

      ***** thanks~

    • @emilydaum8048
      @emilydaum8048 3 года назад

      I have the same pain. I have tried trigger point injections it didn’t do anything unfortunately.

  • @AcexRT
    @AcexRT 10 лет назад

    So you can fight against (in a healthy way) it with corrective deadlifting? Speaking of maintaining thoracic extension at the top for a while e.g.?
    Cool video as usual, keep it up ;)

    • @arougerehman7621
      @arougerehman7621 5 лет назад +2

      If you have scheuermann's the process in which you will acquire back muscles will throw the surrounding muscles of targeted vertebrae into inflammation. These methods typically induce more pain to only then reduce.

    • @myth0094
      @myth0094 3 года назад

      @@arougerehman7621 then what do i do

  • @clementee263
    @clementee263 4 года назад

    how can i traing my chest? my doctor recmmended not to do push ups, thanks

    • @stargazer2042
      @stargazer2042 3 года назад

      I agree with your doctor. Doing wide grip rowing would be better for you.

  • @saltisami
    @saltisami 9 лет назад

    is it bad if I do that on my bed instead of the floor ?

  • @b-rare
    @b-rare 8 лет назад

    hey @physicaltherapyvideo i recently had a MRI done and i have mild scheuremanns disease. I have tight hamstrings at night/when resting. would this disease cause tight hamstrings? I have no other sympomts but have been trying to figure out for the last ten years now why my hamstrigs get so tight while resting.

    • @dhairyaparekh7760
      @dhairyaparekh7760 8 лет назад

      +physicaltherapyvideo I have kyphosis along with lordosis, is it possible to correct them with exercises at 21 years of age ?

    • @CHollman82
      @CHollman82 8 лет назад +3

      Yes, tight hamstrings are associated with this disorder:
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scheuermann%27s_disease#Associated_conditions

    • @samiam6801
      @samiam6801 8 лет назад +1

      Muscular imbalance sitting in a chair often results in a posterior pelvic tilt which in turn causes the hamstrings to remain in a shortened position. Modern society requires u to basically sit all day.

    • @b-rare
      @b-rare 8 лет назад

      Sameer Basar i dont sit at all i work construction and my hamstrings are still always tight . more so at night when im laying down trying to sleep. MRI said i have slight scheurmans disease nothing too crazy and also have arthritis in the tailbone but even after 10 years no one knows why my legs cramp up / tighten up

    • @jeremycampbell114
      @jeremycampbell114 7 лет назад

      Chris Barreira I have the disease to what are you doing to fix it surgeons tell me I need major surgery

  • @musicman399
    @musicman399 2 года назад

    3 negative covid tests later, 3 vaccines later...finally know what's wrong. Lol

  • @cpdrenato
    @cpdrenato 8 лет назад

    Muito bom - Brasil

    • @cpdrenato
      @cpdrenato 8 лет назад

      Meu filho esta com diagnóstico inicial, vai fazer mais exames

    • @cpdrenato
      @cpdrenato 8 лет назад

      Very good video, I'm from Brazil. My son is initially diagnosed, but have to do more tests.

    • @cpdrenato
      @cpdrenato 8 лет назад

      Thank you

  • @dianadiana6192
    @dianadiana6192 2 года назад

    I actually have this disease & you have no idea of what your talking about. Absolutely no way I can lay down on my tummy or balance on a ball. Maybe you should get your nephew to demonstrate exactly what is impossible with the inflammation restrictions.
    Or better still put a jump suit on that’s 2sizes too small and then try to do exactly the same exercise………….

  • @lornz5374
    @lornz5374 2 года назад

    I'm sorry this is rubbish, this will not help someone with genuine schuermanns....might help someone with mild postural kyphosisi...

  • @Bill_Brasky
    @Bill_Brasky 4 года назад

    @1:03 What the fuck? Lol Get a foam roller?
    And why are they yelling?

  • @liambailey148
    @liambailey148 5 лет назад +1

    Pure bullshit
    Ive had it for 8 years now all surgery is shit brace is shit and tramadol does nothing its like a smartie, yoga is only thing that comes close to help

    • @jflsdknf
      @jflsdknf 2 года назад +1

      So sorry i've been dealing with it too ever since high school, I'm 34 now and can't work. The pain and discomfort this disease causes everyday is unreal. In my case my curve is fusing together itself to try to stabilize it. Doctors know nothing about this but I finally found an SD specialist who knew what he was talking about. Still no good treatments options for us though. Guess there's not much you can do about a deformed spine except take one day at a time.

    • @olinheino4716
      @olinheino4716 2 года назад

      @@jflsdknf I’m 17 and have been suffering from this. I’ve tried so many things to help and it doesn’t
      seem to go away. What do you think my best bet is on fixing it, I really don’t want to live my whole life with this

    • @belalismail2058
      @belalismail2058 Год назад

      ​@@olinheino4716 are u found something help ?

  • @محمدالعربي-غ8ث
    @محمدالعربي-غ8ث 9 лет назад

    likeeeee