How far can the Brine Tank be installed from the Media Tank? I have both in my crawl space but I want to move the Brine Tank into my garage, for easy salt adding, about a total of less than 10' diagonally further away. Thanks
I'm very grateful to be able to watch your videos. Very instructional, some of my doubts had been clarified with your wonderful explanation of the brine tank.
hi there. Great explanation. I have a question. I have the exact same brine tank from the video. It’s brand new. There’s constant water in my tank. Should the water not drain Empty so only salt is in the tank.
Hello Gary and thanks for your educational video .please can you help My brine tank cracked and leaking at the bottom ,can it be fixed. Or Can I replace the brine tank only because the water softener working fine .please advice
I have repaired brine tanks with this product www.amazon.ca/Weld-8272-MarineWeld-Marine-Epoxy/dp/B000KKPFFA/ref=asc_df_B000KKPFFA/?tag=googleshopc0c-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=292950034231&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=10122445599358091598&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9104131&hvtargid=pla-422572943945&psc=1 Just make sure the surface is dry, clean and roughed up with coarse sandpaper. Otherwise you can repalce the brine tank. Email me a picture at info@waterestore.com
@@water_estore Hello Gary. Thank you very much for your help. My water softener model is DECALCIFCADOR SERIED LOGIX 255/780 Volumetric Bought from Hidro Water in Spain . For our holiday house , we had it for 15 years still functioning but the salt tank cracked at the bottom . Do you think it’s possible to find a replacement . I have contacted the company but very difficult to explain the problem they don’t speak English and my Spanish ltd Your advice will be appreciated . Sorry attachment failed Kind regards Dr Shanks
Sir - your videos have been among my favorite resources for water softener care - especially so for my clack ws1 control valve. I am thoroughly cleaning my brine tank, and when I removed the brine line from the tank elbow connector (screw type) I discovered the poly plug you referenced in this video. The lip of it was brittle and crumbled when I attempted to tug on it to remove from the brine line to clean. The remainder of it is still in the line: Should I leave it in, or should I replace it. And if I need to replace, where can I find one (I couldn't it on your website)? Thanks, -Doug
Thanks for replying. I was referring to the plug insert that was damaged at the end of the brine line. I was finally able to find brass versions at HD. Appreciate you!
Hi Gary - Can I ask whether or not it's a good idea to clean out the brine tank periodically? Also, I broke my overflow elbow off and I taped over the hole for now. I assume the inner part of the elbow in the tube could wedge the float and I'll be in trouble. I'll watch closely and disassemble/repair when the salt level lowers (I dunno)
Hey I did the same thing & broke off that overflow elbow connector. But then then a leak developed at the valve of the media tank at about the same time. As I wasn't in a rush to repair it, I just lived with very hard water (iron and calcium) for a couple years. It was OK & everything works (toilets, faucets, etc) but I'm looking forward to having it operate again. I replaced two O-rings in the media valve connection, which were quite a pain because I could not get the media tank to line up properly. Finally after about 4 attempts to align the O-rings it worked and no more leaks! But I also broke off the overflow elbow port as you have done (I saw them listed for sale on line so you can likely buy one there if you want it. Mine has a 3/4" hole). But really, according to this video, if I understood it properly, there should be no reason for one becuase if the unit (specifically, if the brine well is working correctly there shouldn't be any overflow so I suppose it is sort of just for a mild overflow situation or works if there is a malfunction with the brine well). So I'm gonna clean the brine well and then fill it with salt (the tank is entirely empty of salt now that it all dissolved into the old water sitting in there for 2 years!). The whole brine tank is pretty clean after many years of use and it has a good very large filtering doughnut down at the bottom of the brine tank to help keep salt from clogging up the bottom of the brine well, I suppose. It's huge (same diameter as the whole large brine tank) so it seems to have done it's job. I'll test it out tomorrow.
Thanks for the great content Gary! I have an AQUAPRO 5000 SXT and its square brine tank has a salt grid plate at the bottom. You mentioned that salt should be in contact with the water to efficiently produce brine. This grid plat creates a 4-5 inch space without salt between it and the bottom of the brine tank. Is this OK or would it be better to remove the salt grid plate? Is it needed because our brine well is completely hollow, having no bottom.
Hi Gary, I was cleaning the brine tank today and noticed that I don't have a c-clip or a poly insert, just black tubing that goes directly connected into the angle connector (push in connector) from the brine well. Should I be concerned? Thank you!
Hi Gary. I have a softner with a clack valve, after noticing too much water in the brine tank I cleaned the brine tank first, still too much water in it after a day or so. So I replaced the piston, seal pack and cleaned the injector. Checked everything for obstruction including drain pipe and fill pipe. Went through regeneration and as I was skipping cycles I noticed that during the brine cycle it's actually sending water instead of emptying tank. Then more water during fill cycle. Is the valve defective,?
Thank you Gary. I was concerned when I refilled the salt yesterday and the brine tank water over half way up. Is this a concern? What I have read is there should not be standing water that high.
I have an Ecosmart ECS 20 Water softener in our condo. We are going away for an extended period of time(several months). Should I empt the contents of the after softener and a clean the tank completely?
Hi Gary, appreciate all the water softener videos, the salt in our brine tank is low enough that the water is close to covering the top of the salt. It is working fine and I could just add more salt, but why couldn't it keep on regenerating normally until all the salt is used up before adding more?
Any water that is above the salt will not absorb any salt so every regeneration will have an insufficient amount of sodium in it to properly regenerate the media.
1 question that i doesnt seem asked is the issue im having...as i attempt to fill my tank with salt it is displacing water and overflowing out the overflow port. That is if i dont bail out water as i fill the tank with salt...is this an issue or is this the correct way to approach this? And if so should i be concerned when it regens next will it not have enough water in the tank?
If the water level in the tank is higher than normal, you might have a problem with the water softener, this video will help. ruclips.net/video/ZdA0aI1q22w/видео.html If it's always been very high like this, your salt settings are too high causing the water softener to add too much water to the brine tank.
I’ve noticed that my brine tank leaks and the bottom of my basement floor has salt residue. Is replacing a brine tank a DYI or does a plumber or water treatment specialist required to replace it? Are brine tank universal fitting regardless of the softener brand?
Gary, your videos are great. Have a WS-1 water softener. I manually regenerated it a day after adding calcite to my WS-1 Acid neutralizer. After having regenerated water softener, it shows 1200 Gal, which is normal. But it is not winding down as house water is used. What did i do wrong? System is 4 years old. Am cleaning the brine tank, but have no clogs.
Gary, every time my system regenerates there is air in all of the water lines hooked up to the softener. What would cause this? Thanks for all of the info you provide.
Hi Gary, appreciate all the water softener videos. I once cleaned our brine tank by removing the brine well. Afterwards it stopped working and when serviced the "Motor, Turbine assembly WS1 Clack" had to be replaced. Some small "rocks" got stuck in it (looked like black plastic debris). Ever heard of something like that happening?
Gary, I’m looking for a simple answer. I think have a Waterboss 900 at my Cabin. I know it’s a 9 something. Sorry I’m not there to be sure. How much water should be in my brine tank? I had service on my Well and the service technician said my water level in my Waterboss should be filled to the top of my salt level. We added water but I think he is wrong. Don’t I just need a couple of gallons of water? When it regenerated the salt level dropped about 5 inches. It appears to have used to much salt. This advice I was given I feel is incorrect. Thanks in advance. I trust your professional opinion.
@@water_estore Thanks Gary, I may have had 1 Gallon of water in the Brine Tank. Will it correct itself during a recycling or do I need to remove water manually.
Why is there no brine tank? Are you sure that it is a water softener or something else? If it is a water softener they all use salt so there should be a brine tank attached.
Hi Gary. Thanks for the great videos. Learned a lot about my Clack Valve water softener. Quick question...going on a 3 week vacation and typically when we're away I turn off the well pump as a safety precaution against flood should a pipe burst when I'm not home. My softener regenerates about every 8 days or so (average) . Obviously, the softener is going to regenerate after 14 days and hence it will not have any water (I turn the well pump off when away) to complete. In the past with lengthy absences, I've come back to lots of air in the system. Just wondering if this does the softener any harm? Would it be better if I just unplugged the softener when we're away that long? If so, would I have to reprogram the softener when I plug it back in? Advice appreciated. Thanks. Vince.
What should I do if the first regeneration worked properly but the second regeneration didn’t produce any soft water? Should I empty the brine tank completely and look for salt bridges and start over?
I want to move the brine tank across the room next to the drain and avoid running drain tubing across the floor. Can the brine tube go up vertical 6ft, horizontal 15ft and down into the unit? its a Tier 1 Essential 64000 grain with 3/8 brine tubing.
I did fix my WS1 WC by removing caked salt at the bottom, but I'm still confused about certain aspects of the brine cycle. As the WS1 runs through its cycles, I noticed that BRINE is 60:00 long, while Fill is 6:10 long. I have a 12 inch tank, and I'd like to know if these two parameters are correct. If I fill the tank with a low salt level, I can see the water. I haven't measured how much water is in there. but if I do, how do I know how much brine should be in the tank? Is there a valve somewhere in the brine valve that controls how much water there should be? If 6:10 long enough to refill it to a satisfactory level?
There is a flow restrictor on the brine line when filling water into the brine tank. So if the valve has a, for example, .5 gpm restrictor and the valve calculates from it's settings that you need 3 gallons of water in the brine tank, it will run water for 6 minutes.
Hi Gary, I noticed the water is brown in the mornings when I flush the toilets, rest are fine When I went to check my Brine tank I noticed something strange, the pipe from the softener to the brine well is not connected to the float. It was just pushed all the way down to the bottom of the well. And only the float( the piece with marble ). Iis there. The other half is missing. Is it a common practice for the installers to do this? Thanks.
Hi Gary. Thanks for your videos. My question is: how does the brine get sucked from the salt tank towards the valve? Is there a suction pump somewhere?
Great question. There is an injector inside the valve which has a venturi built in. As water passes slowly through the injector in creates suction which is used to draw the brine from the brine tank. No pump.
@@water_estore Thanks for answering. I researched venturi effect: it seems that to create a venturi effect you need a driving force to create the suction which would be used to draw the brine. Am I correct?
Gary, thank you very much from UK for you great job. Your videos helped me a lot to maintain my HYDROION VAS 50-CS1-B and to understand many things about water filtration and treatment. If you have a chance could you explain please how Water Softener Chlorinator works and how to fix Chlorine Current alarm? Many thanks!
Hey Gary, I have a Sterling NES softener that I bought second hand. The line is leaking right at the quick connect fitting into the brine tank. The manual doesn’t say there is any kind of fitting, it’s just a quick connect with a clip. The line I installed is brand new? Got any advice?
@@water_estore - Just curious. The extra water I put in brine tank, should drain out eventually during the next cleaning cycles right? The float will just tell the system not to add any water, and instead remove it?
Hi Gary, I have an older Brine Tank I believe its 18 x 33 , but it has a Brine Tank Float valve that looks like it might have some small floats inside a plastic chamber at the very bottom of the Float assembly , doesn't have a float that you can adjust. I don't believe my brine tank is filling up as much as it should I don't think the recharge is getting the proper amount of brine back through the resin on the recharge cycle. I would like to send you a picture of the Float assembly but I don't have an email where I can send it. Thanks in advance for any help
ouir email is info@waterestore.com but the float only determines the water limit, the programming in the valve determines how much water goes into the brine tank. Check your programming and settings,
Hi Gary, I'm looking to install a softener however I'm short on space and need to separate the media tank from the brine tank. Is it possible to run the brine line 5' upward above and around a entry door and 5' downward into the brine tank?
Hi Gary I have a Reynolds Water Conditioner and my float in the brine tank does not look like yours. I actually think maybe parts might be missing in mine. I’m going to add a pic
How do you adjust the amount of water going into the brine tank? Mine is about 2/3 full of water at all times. It is a 3 button system, 1 person household, and set at P3. I discovered the transformer had died and the system off for possibly a year. When checking the brine tank, it had a bridge. I removed the bridge and salt, checked the bottom to make sure it was clear, checked the drain hose which was clear, checked the brine float and tube and replaced it, checked the venturi valve for clogs and everything seems fine. I reset the time and regenerated it, but the water level in the brine tank seems to be very high and when testing my water for hardness with test strips, it show low on the container, the ph and alkaline are low. So, how do you adjust to make softer and raise the ph and alkaline, and get the brine water level at a correct amount? Please help? I have watched your videos and read the manuals, called a professional, and still stumped! Thank you!!
Here is a copy of the manual clackvalves.net/pdf/documents/WS1TC%20&%20WS1.25TC%20programming%20manual.pdf at the bottom of page 1 explains that you need to set the fill time based on how much salt you will use, determined by how much water fills the brine tank. Typically 6 minutes of fill equals 3 gallons of water which absorbs 9 lbs of salt. I hope that helps.
@@water_estore I know that. I was asking you to explain it in the video. I think that is worth mentioning. People are thinking there is a pump or something.
Usually my softener works well but this last time that it was scheduled for regeneration the water pump didn’t come on at some point so the regeneration didn’t finish. The salt tank isn’t full of water but there’s salt in it. What do I do? Turn on the hose & put water in the salt tank?
@@water_estore ok. The reason for the pump not coming on is there are ants going into the switch. So I have to check sporadically to make sure that doesn’t happen a lot. Also I tried to manually regenerate with the push button on the softener controls - but it didn’t start. So I got a screwdriver & tried turning it so it would come on. I found I was turning it clockwise instead of counterclockwise so when it started to turn I was able to turn it to regeneration & it did the full cycle - filling the salt tank with water. Thank you for replying. I appreciate it.
Can u please explain why salt level needs to be above water level? Ours, the water is always quite a bit higher then the salt, even when the brine is full of salt or getting low on salt, is there a chemical or scientific reason the water shouldn't be above the salt? And how can we fix the issue! We r still getting hard water stains and calcium build up in and on our fixtures. Could this be the cause?
great question! The water must be able to touch the salt to absorb it to get the correct concentration fo brine to regenerate the media in the water softener. All of the water above the salt is not touching the brine.
You need an iron and sulphue filter. If you go to this link we can help you figure out what you need waterestore.com/pages/free-water-test-evaluation-the-water-estore
@@water_estore the resin tank vacuum itself in the down brine step seems like it's clog because it begins to implode until I jump this step but de brine tank supply tubes are clean
Is it ok to fill the tank 3/4 full with salt? My family has always done this for over 30 years to keep from having to fill it so often. Is it possible to overfill a tank with salt?
how does one know the correct level for the float; my float is high just below the overflow hole? Tank water is almost to the overflow hole, this is not correct i believe. I have a post fill.
Your float is set correctly, it's only purpose is so that if something went wrong it would shut off the water to keep it from overflowing. If you water level is that high something else is wrong, check this video ruclips.net/video/ZdA0aI1q22w/видео.html
The video doesn’t explain the most important part of the whole brine tank. That is, the ball valve at the bottom of the well. That’s where the magic is. Valve (on top of filter tank) pulls a vacc on the line for the whole brine cycle (which is long, like 60 min). It pulls until that ball valve closes (like 5-10 min). So the ball valve stops water and stops air from being pulled in. It might pull 3 gallons or 6. But it pulls for a lot longer time than any system needs. Then later it (filter valve) uses time calculation to fill above when that valve closes. The next cycle will pull exactly what it put in because it stops when that ball valve closes again. So it won’t drift. To set up, put enough water to be well over the bottom valve. Advance valve to the sucking brine cycle. Wait until water stops going down. Now advance valve to fill cycle. That’s the height you want. You can have salt in brine tank before or after. Which will change height. But that doesn’t matter. It will always pull until the valve closes and fill based on time. It typically fills at 0.5 gpm. 6 min is 3 gallons. If you don’t have OCD. Just put enough water above that bottom valve (4-6 inches). And run a full cycle. It will self adjust. You can do that with or without salt.
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It's not just somewhere to store your salt! The operation of the brine tank is key to softening your water.
How far can the Brine Tank be installed from the Media Tank? I have both in my crawl space but I want to move the Brine Tank into my garage, for easy salt adding, about a total of less than 10' diagonally further away. Thanks
Finally it makes sense. WHy couldn't my water softener guy just explain it this way? THANK YOU!
Could be he just doesn't know, I come across that situation all the time. Please share video with friends and family!
I'm very grateful to be able to watch your videos. Very instructional, some of my doubts had been clarified with your wonderful explanation of the brine tank.
You are very welcome! Please share video with friends and family!
Very good job explaining the process.
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Very nice video series… Thank you. Helped me a lot to understand how the softeners work🙏
Glad it was helpful! This video will help too ruclips.net/video/i9pI76dk4Zs/видео.html
I like how you explain things about water softeners & I’m understanding a lot more. Thank you
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hi there. Great explanation. I have a question. I have the exact same brine tank from the video. It’s brand new. There’s constant water in my tank. Should the water not drain Empty so only salt is in the tank.
Yes, it drains everytine that the water softener regenerates and puts new water in it's place, see this video ruclips.net/video/m4aGlQ2UNPA/видео.html
omg finally found someone who knows their stuff lol I've been troubleshooting mine for 2 days now with very little background on how they work
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You found the right guy Gary is a great guy and knows his stuff
Excellent explanation. My Logic Board is defective and replacement parts are ridiculously expensive so I plan to use an Arduino Board to replace it.
Never heard of this before but hopefully it works for you.
Hello Gary and thanks for your educational video .please can you help My brine tank cracked and leaking at the bottom ,can it be fixed. Or Can I
replace the brine tank only because the water softener working fine .please advice
I have repaired brine tanks with this product www.amazon.ca/Weld-8272-MarineWeld-Marine-Epoxy/dp/B000KKPFFA/ref=asc_df_B000KKPFFA/?tag=googleshopc0c-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=292950034231&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=10122445599358091598&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9104131&hvtargid=pla-422572943945&psc=1 Just make sure the surface is dry, clean and roughed up with coarse sandpaper. Otherwise you can repalce the brine tank. Email me a picture at info@waterestore.com
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Hello Gary.
Thank you very much for your help. My water softener model is
DECALCIFCADOR
SERIED LOGIX 255/780
Volumetric Bought from Hidro Water in Spain . For our holiday house , we had it for 15 years still functioning but the salt tank cracked at the bottom .
Do you think it’s possible to find a replacement . I have contacted the company but very difficult to explain the problem they don’t speak English and my Spanish ltd
Your advice will be appreciated .
Sorry attachment failed
Kind regards
Dr Shanks
@@water_estore Thank you Gary. I used marine Epoxy and it did the trick.
Thank you for the advice .
Sir - your videos have been among my favorite resources for water softener care - especially so for my clack ws1 control valve. I am thoroughly cleaning my brine tank, and when I removed the brine line from the tank elbow connector (screw type) I discovered the poly plug you referenced in this video. The lip of it was brittle and crumbled when I attempted to tug on it to remove from the brine line to clean. The remainder of it is still in the line: Should I leave it in, or should I replace it. And if I need to replace, where can I find one (I couldn't it on your website)?
Thanks,
-Doug
Yes, replace it with 3/8" tubing, you can get it at Home Depot
Thanks for replying. I was referring to the plug insert that was damaged at the end of the brine line. I was finally able to find brass versions at HD. Appreciate you!
Hi Gary - Can I ask whether or not it's a good idea to clean out the brine tank periodically? Also, I broke my overflow elbow off and I taped over the hole for now. I assume the inner part of the elbow in the tube could wedge the float and I'll be in trouble. I'll watch closely and disassemble/repair when the salt level lowers (I dunno)
Hey I did the same thing & broke off that overflow elbow connector. But then then a leak developed at the valve of the media tank at about the same time. As I wasn't in a rush to repair it, I just lived with very hard water (iron and calcium) for a couple years. It was OK & everything works (toilets, faucets, etc) but I'm looking forward to having it operate again. I replaced two O-rings in the media valve connection, which were quite a pain because I could not get the media tank to line up properly. Finally after about 4 attempts to align the O-rings it worked and no more leaks! But I also broke off the overflow elbow port as you have done (I saw them listed for sale on line so you can likely buy one there if you want it. Mine has a 3/4" hole). But really, according to this video, if I understood it properly, there should be no reason for one becuase if the unit (specifically, if the brine well is working correctly there shouldn't be any overflow so I suppose it is sort of just for a mild overflow situation or works if there is a malfunction with the brine well). So I'm gonna clean the brine well and then fill it with salt (the tank is entirely empty of salt now that it all dissolved into the old water sitting in there for 2 years!). The whole brine tank is pretty clean after many years of use and it has a good very large filtering doughnut down at the bottom of the brine tank to help keep salt from clogging up the bottom of the brine well, I suppose. It's huge (same diameter as the whole large brine tank) so it seems to have done it's job. I'll test it out tomorrow.
Yes, this video shows you how. ruclips.net/video/BQT7c9wIzWY/видео.html
Thanks for the great content Gary! I have an AQUAPRO 5000 SXT and its square brine tank has a salt grid plate at the bottom. You mentioned that salt should be in contact with the water to efficiently produce brine. This grid plat creates a 4-5 inch space without salt between it and the bottom of the brine tank. Is this OK or would it be better to remove the salt grid plate? Is it needed because our brine well is completely hollow, having no bottom.
I don't like those grids and it can be removed.
Hi Gary, I was cleaning the brine tank today and noticed that I don't have a c-clip or a poly insert, just black tubing that goes directly connected into the angle connector (push in connector) from the brine well. Should I be concerned? Thank you!
As long as it works, no I wouldn't be concerned.
Hi Gary.
I have a softner with a clack valve, after noticing too much water in the brine tank I cleaned the brine tank first, still too much water in it after a day or so. So I replaced the piston, seal pack and cleaned the injector. Checked everything for obstruction including drain pipe and fill pipe. Went through regeneration and as I was skipping cycles I noticed that during the brine cycle it's actually sending water instead of emptying tank. Then more water during fill cycle. Is the valve defective,?
Need to check a few more things, like if the drain line is restrcted or clogged. This video will help ruclips.net/video/ZdA0aI1q22w/видео.html
Thank you Gary. I was concerned when I refilled the salt yesterday and the brine tank water over half way up. Is this a concern? What I have read is there should not be standing water that high.
If the water is higher than normal, yes, it is a concern. Thsi video will help ruclips.net/video/ZdA0aI1q22w/видео.html
Thanks Gary! It meant if our drinking water is connected to the water softener, we drink the water which stores inside the brine tank?
No, the water in the brine tank is used to make brine to clean out the media tank. You drink the water that passes through the media tank.
how much water do you have to add to the brine tank during a new install? thanks
5 gallons
I have an Ecosmart ECS 20 Water softener in our condo. We are going away for an extended period of time(several months). Should I empt the contents of the after softener and a clean the tank completely?
No, just shut off the water in the condo and manually regenerate the softener when you return.
Hi Gary, appreciate all the water softener videos, the salt in our brine tank is low enough that the water is close to covering the top of the salt. It is working fine and I could just add more salt, but why couldn't it keep on regenerating normally until all the salt is used up before adding more?
Any water that is above the salt will not absorb any salt so every regeneration will have an insufficient amount of sodium in it to properly regenerate the media.
1 question that i doesnt seem asked is the issue im having...as i attempt to fill my tank with salt it is displacing water and overflowing out the overflow port. That is if i dont bail out water as i fill the tank with salt...is this an issue or is this the correct way to approach this? And if so should i be concerned when it regens next will it not have enough water in the tank?
If the water level in the tank is higher than normal, you might have a problem with the water softener, this video will help. ruclips.net/video/ZdA0aI1q22w/видео.html If it's always been very high like this, your salt settings are too high causing the water softener to add too much water to the brine tank.
I’ve noticed that my brine tank leaks and the bottom of my basement floor has salt residue. Is replacing a brine tank a DYI or does a plumber or water treatment specialist required to replace it? Are brine tank universal fitting regardless of the softener brand?
It can be a DIY job but you need to make sure you are replacing with the correct size brine line as they vary by manufacturer.
I have a twin system. Should I have two control monitor valves? Or did my technician do it wrong?
Great question! No, almost all of the twins these days use just one control valve and alternate between two tanks.
Tks for the break down! First house with first well system though know plumbing so tks again
Glad to help. You've found a great resource.
Gary, your videos are great. Have a WS-1 water softener. I manually regenerated it a day after
adding calcite to my WS-1 Acid neutralizer. After having regenerated water softener, it shows
1200 Gal, which is normal. But it is not winding down as house water is used. What did i do wrong?
System is 4 years old.
Am cleaning the brine tank, but have no clogs.
Check out this video ruclips.net/video/_DF9892RERQ/видео.html I think the eigth item is your problem.
So, I have a air over media iron filter, do I need to also use iron fighter salt in brine tank or can I stick with Bright & Soft pellets OR mix both?
No need, if you have an iron filter before the water softener.
@@water_estorewouldn’t an iron filter only filter out ferric iron. What about ferrous iron?
Gary, every time my system regenerates there is air in all of the water lines hooked up to the softener. What would cause this?
Thanks for all of the info you provide.
If it is just in the hot water it is hot water heater related. If everywhere, it is a problem with the float in the brine tank.
Great info you do a great job explaining these things to your audience!!! Happy Easter ....
Thank you and a Happy Easter to you and your family too!
Hi Gary, appreciate all the water softener videos. I once cleaned our brine tank by removing the brine well. Afterwards it stopped working and when serviced the "Motor, Turbine assembly WS1 Clack" had to be replaced. Some small "rocks" got stuck in it (looked like black plastic debris). Ever heard of something like that happening?
Yes, I have. Good call.
Gary, I’m looking for a simple answer. I think have a Waterboss 900 at my Cabin. I know it’s a 9 something. Sorry I’m not there to be sure.
How much water should be in my brine tank? I had service on my Well and the service technician said my water level in my Waterboss should be filled to the top of my salt level.
We added water but I think he is wrong. Don’t I just need a couple of gallons of water?
When it regenerated the salt level dropped about 5 inches.
It appears to have used to much salt.
This advice I was given I feel is incorrect.
Thanks in advance. I trust your professional opinion.
He gave you incorrect information. The water softener programming determines how much water should go in there, typically just a few inches.
@@water_estore Thanks Gary, I may have had 1 Gallon of water in the Brine Tank. Will it correct itself during a recycling or do I need to remove water manually.
Got a Fleck 7000SXT and it without brine tank. Can I just add the brine tank as the programming seems to allow it. Any suggestion?
Why is there no brine tank? Are you sure that it is a water softener or something else? If it is a water softener they all use salt so there should be a brine tank attached.
Hi Gary, i was wanting to know if i could move the brine tank to the garage and leave rest of the system in the basement? 9 ft run of tubing. Thanks
Great question. Yes, you can, no problem.
My Brine tank is about two feet off the floor. Will this affect the performance of my water softener?
Good question! Not at all.
@@water_estore thanks for getting back to me
Hi Gary. Thanks for the great videos. Learned a lot about my Clack Valve water softener. Quick question...going on a 3 week vacation and typically when we're away I turn off the well pump as a safety precaution against flood should a pipe burst when I'm not home. My softener regenerates about every 8 days or so (average) . Obviously, the softener is going to regenerate after 14 days and hence it will not have any water (I turn the well pump off when away) to complete. In the past with lengthy absences, I've come back to lots of air in the system. Just wondering if this does the softener any harm? Would it be better if I just unplugged the softener when we're away that long? If so, would I have to reprogram the softener when I plug it back in? Advice appreciated. Thanks. Vince.
You can unplug it but you would need to reset the time. The other settings are in there for good.
What should I do if the first regeneration worked properly but the second regeneration didn’t produce any soft water? Should I empty the brine tank completely and look for salt bridges and start over?
Not sure what your circumstances are but thsi troubleshooting video should help ruclips.net/video/_ws88RC9KYk/видео.html
I want to move the brine tank across the room next to the drain and avoid running drain tubing across the floor. Can the brine tube go up vertical 6ft, horizontal 15ft and down into the unit? its a Tier 1 Essential 64000 grain with 3/8 brine tubing.
Yes, it can. No problem.
@@water_estore thank you sir.
I did fix my WS1 WC by removing caked salt at the bottom, but I'm still confused about certain aspects of the brine cycle. As the WS1 runs through its cycles, I noticed that BRINE is 60:00 long, while Fill is 6:10 long. I have a 12 inch tank, and I'd like to know if these two parameters are correct. If I fill the tank with a low salt level, I can see the water. I haven't measured how much water is in there. but if I do, how do I know how much brine should be in the tank?
Is there a valve somewhere in the brine valve that controls how much water there should be? If 6:10 long enough to refill it to a satisfactory level?
There is a flow restrictor on the brine line when filling water into the brine tank. So if the valve has a, for example, .5 gpm restrictor and the valve calculates from it's settings that you need 3 gallons of water in the brine tank, it will run water for 6 minutes.
Hi Gary, I noticed the water is brown in the mornings when I flush the toilets, rest are fine When I went to check my Brine tank I noticed something strange, the pipe from the softener to the brine well is not connected to the float. It was just pushed all the way down to the bottom of the well. And only the float( the piece with marble ). Iis there. The other half is missing. Is it a common practice for the installers to do this? Thanks.
No, not at all. You need to get that fixed.
Hi Gary. Thanks for your videos. My question is: how does the brine get sucked from the salt tank towards the valve? Is there a suction pump somewhere?
Great question. There is an injector inside the valve which has a venturi built in. As water passes slowly through the injector in creates suction which is used to draw the brine from the brine tank. No pump.
@@water_estore Thanks for answering. I researched venturi effect: it seems that to create a venturi effect you need a driving force to create the suction which would be used to draw the brine. Am I correct?
Gary, thank you very much from UK for you great job. Your videos helped me a lot to maintain my HYDROION VAS 50-CS1-B and to understand many things about water filtration and treatment. If you have a chance could you explain please how Water Softener Chlorinator works and how to fix Chlorine Current alarm? Many thanks!
Sorry but I am not sure what you mean by a water softener chlorinator or a chlorine alarm. Can you please explain?
Hey Gary, I have a Sterling NES softener that I bought second hand. The line is leaking right at the quick connect fitting into the brine tank. The manual doesn’t say there is any kind of fitting, it’s just a quick connect with a clip. The line I installed is brand new? Got any advice?
Assuming yours is 3/8” you can just replace it with a new one like this waterestore.ca/products/john-guest-union-elbow-part-pi0312s
If I put the tube of a dehumidifier into the brine tank, would it overflow or would it trip something to drain it?
Don't do it! It will overflow because the float in the water softener just stops the flow coming into the brine tank.
@@water_estore - Thank you for quick response. Your videos are fantastic!
@@water_estore - Just curious. The extra water I put in brine tank, should drain out eventually during the next cleaning cycles right?
The float will just tell the system not to add any water, and instead remove it?
Hi Gary, I have an older Brine Tank I believe its 18 x 33 , but it has a Brine Tank Float valve that looks like it might have some small floats inside a plastic chamber at the very bottom of the Float assembly , doesn't have a float that you can adjust. I don't believe my brine tank is filling up as much as it should I don't think the recharge is getting the proper amount of brine back through the resin on the recharge cycle. I would like to send you a picture of the Float assembly but I don't have an email where I can send it. Thanks in advance for any help
ouir email is info@waterestore.com but the float only determines the water limit, the programming in the valve determines how much water goes into the brine tank. Check your programming and settings,
is water from this type of purification system good fo garden plants?
Ideally no, plants prefer non softened water.
does purified water have a salt?
Hi Gary, I'm looking to install a softener however I'm short on space and need to separate the media tank from the brine tank. Is it possible to run the brine line 5' upward above and around a entry door and 5' downward into the brine tank?
Great question! Yes, no problem.
Is the tall tank that has a meter suppose to be lite up at all times?
Depends on the make and model but normally, no.
Hi Gary I have a Reynolds Water Conditioner and my float in the brine tank does not look like yours. I actually think maybe parts might be missing in mine. I’m going to add a pic
Sure, email us at info@waterestore.com
Very good info ty
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Heiio my softener tank is full of water the valve that works off the float does it shut water off there is some water on supply hoses just dripping.
likley the water dripping is causing that condition. I would fix the drip.
What if salt tank is full I manual regenerate will see water come up float tube ?
How do you adjust the amount of water going into the brine tank? Mine is about 2/3 full of water at all times. It is a 3 button system, 1 person household, and set at P3. I discovered the transformer had died and the system off for possibly a year. When checking the brine tank, it had a bridge. I removed the bridge and salt, checked the bottom to make sure it was clear, checked the drain hose which was clear, checked the brine float and tube and replaced it, checked the venturi valve for clogs and everything seems fine. I reset the time and regenerated it, but the water level in the brine tank seems to be very high and when testing my water for hardness with test strips, it show low on the container, the ph and alkaline are low. So, how do you adjust to make softer and raise the ph and alkaline, and get the brine water level at a correct amount? Please help? I have watched your videos and read the manuals, called a professional, and still stumped! Thank you!!
Here is a copy of the manual clackvalves.net/pdf/documents/WS1TC%20&%20WS1.25TC%20programming%20manual.pdf at the bottom of page 1 explains that you need to set the fill time based on how much salt you will use, determined by how much water fills the brine tank. Typically 6 minutes of fill equals 3 gallons of water which absorbs 9 lbs of salt. I hope that helps.
How much water am I supposed to have in the tank when the salt is added?
Depends on the type of water softener and the settings. This video might help ruclips.net/video/flBBqcNa_AI/видео.htmlsi=2e1ZCjxx34A6wcsv
Please explain how the water softener creates a suction to get the brine from the brine tank into the resin tank.
There is an injector with a Venturi inside which creates the suction like in a carburetor as water passes through to the drain.
@@water_estore I know that. I was asking you to explain it in the video. I think that is worth mentioning. People are thinking there is a pump or something.
Usually my softener works well but this last time that it was scheduled for regeneration the water pump didn’t come on at some point so the regeneration didn’t finish. The salt tank isn’t full of water but there’s salt in it. What do I do? Turn on the hose & put water in the salt tank?
Yes, I would add about 5 gallons of water and during the next cycle the water softener will add the correct amount.
@@water_estore ok. The reason for the pump not coming on is there are ants going into the switch. So I have to check sporadically to make sure that doesn’t happen a lot. Also I tried to manually regenerate with the push button on the softener controls - but it didn’t start. So I got a screwdriver & tried turning it so it would come on. I found I was turning it clockwise instead of counterclockwise so when it started to turn I was able to turn it to regeneration & it did the full cycle - filling the salt tank with water. Thank you for replying. I appreciate it.
Can u please explain why salt level needs to be above water level? Ours, the water is always quite a bit higher then the salt, even when the brine is full of salt or getting low on salt, is there a chemical or scientific reason the water shouldn't be above the salt? And how can we fix the issue! We r still getting hard water stains and calcium build up in and on our fixtures. Could this be the cause?
great question! The water must be able to touch the salt to absorb it to get the correct concentration fo brine to regenerate the media in the water softener. All of the water above the salt is not touching the brine.
Does a water softner system make the tap water salty?
No, there is very little sodium residual after the water softener.
Normally, what is the water level (how many inches) in brine tank after regeneration? Thanks!
Depends on the settings and the type of water softener. On average about 14"
@@water_estore Thanks!
my water softener, Bryne tank is close by Duct tape. Now only i relealized no cap. Is this ok? Thank You
As long as it keeps salt from falling into the brine well it is okay.
My water smells bad & is orange tinted. What can I do to correct this? I am very low on funds.
You need an iron and sulphue filter. If you go to this link we can help you figure out what you need waterestore.com/pages/free-water-test-evaluation-the-water-estore
What it's happen if my unit vacumm itself at the regeneration step?
It should suck all of the water out of the brine tank during regeneration.
@@water_estore the resin tank vacuum itself in the down brine step seems like it's clog because it begins to implode until I jump this step but de brine tank supply tubes are clean
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Is there a way to contact you? I have a question.
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Is it ok to fill the tank 3/4 full with salt? My family has always done this for over 30 years to keep from having to fill it so often. Is it possible to overfill a tank with salt?
This video should help ruclips.net/video/C3TpdeNX58E/видео.html
how does one know the correct level for the float; my float is high just below the overflow hole? Tank water is almost to the overflow hole, this is not correct i believe. I have a post fill.
Your float is set correctly, it's only purpose is so that if something went wrong it would shut off the water to keep it from overflowing. If you water level is that high something else is wrong, check this video ruclips.net/video/ZdA0aI1q22w/видео.html
The video doesn’t explain the most important part of the whole brine tank. That is, the ball valve at the bottom of the well. That’s where the magic is. Valve (on top of filter tank) pulls a vacc on the line for the whole brine cycle (which is long, like 60 min). It pulls until that ball valve closes (like 5-10 min). So the ball valve stops water and stops air from being pulled in. It might pull 3 gallons or 6. But it pulls for a lot longer time than any system needs. Then later it (filter valve) uses time calculation to fill above when that valve closes. The next cycle will pull exactly what it put in because it stops when that ball valve closes again. So it won’t drift. To set up, put enough water to be well over the bottom valve. Advance valve to the sucking brine cycle. Wait until water stops going down. Now advance valve to fill cycle. That’s the height you want. You can have salt in brine tank before or after. Which will change height. But that doesn’t matter. It will always pull until the valve closes and fill based on time. It typically fills at 0.5 gpm. 6 min is 3 gallons.
If you don’t have OCD. Just put enough water above that bottom valve (4-6 inches). And run a full cycle. It will self adjust. You can do that with or without salt.
Why does the water turn brown
You must have iron in your water and it is oxidizing the iron out of your water.
@@water_estore is there a way to clean the brine tank? Mine smells like sewage and is turning brown🤢
I have never in my life heard someone take a thousand words to explain a goddam float valve.
Well now you have