New Fitting Concept for Hybrids // Better Contact & Accuracy
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- Опубликовано: 31 мар 2020
- Do you struggle with your hybrid? In this video we talk about shaft length and weight options as well as head choices and settings that will help you make more consistent contact and gain better control over your hybrid!
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I want to hate Matt but I can’t. 😂 He hits his hybrid off the deck farther than I hit my driver. 😂😂 Great video.
#PelvicThrust
"people complain about hooking hybrids..."
My friend, I can slice any club I get my hands on.
James Baldwin it’s not a slice it’s a nice 80 yard fade! 😂
Maybe try bowling. Most fairway and hybrids are 10+ degrees SHUT so you hacks can feel good about yourselves when you catch them right in the simulator before you buy it.
Kyle Coultas Congratulations on the Dumbest comment of the week!
@@dalemcdermott9840 explain...
Kyle Coultas 1. Calling people hacks without knowing anything about their game 2. Saying that people should take up bowling because your that far up you own arse you think if someone occasionally hits one right they don’t deserve to play the game 3. Making the statement that most fairways and hybrids are 10 degrees closed which is bollocks with even anti slice clubs being 1-2 degrees closed and your ears are 25 degrees open. Also FYI my woods are set open as left is my miss 4. Coming on to a post just to try and belittle people just shows that your a bit of a dick
Always love hybrid content!
Thank god for you guys.... thanks boys for all the content!
I have 2 hybrids in my bag, Cobra F7s, and they're both an inch shorter than standard. They're some of the most consistent clubs in my bag
I play with a mate who has put an iron shaft into his 3 Hybrid .. works a treat..
Great vid, keep the awesome content coming guys! I have noticed the same thing with shaft length in going from a 3w to 5w or 3h to 4h. Get much better and more consistent contact with the shorter shafts, similar distance due to better contact, and a shot shape that can actually hold a green. I also like that you pointed out lie angle. The flat setting on my G410 5w is an absolute game-changer. Hoping to upgrade to G410 4h soon.
That SIM hybrid is something else. I’m the farthest thing from a hybrid fan, can’t get my U85 out of my hands... but that SIM has me scratching my head. It’s really really good
Thank you for all the videos guys!
I clicked on it, I watch all of your videos no matter what, they're always entertaining and enjoy each one. I'm waiting on tomorrows' vid to drop that you said might have some info I'd like regarding my Live Q&A question from the other day. moved from P790 to MMC MP20 and same shafts but am now struggling to hit the 5 iron, while the others are all fine. Looking forward to whatever it may be
Great vid. Makes complete sense to me. My favorite club in the bag is an old Cobra hybrid with a Nippon steel shaft. My other hybrids have 75 gram graphite shafts. And I also play my driver at 44”, so shorter always works better for me. Thanks! 👍🏼⛳️🏌🏽♂️
Great content as always... Keep up the hard work!!!
This is great to see as I had experimented with this on my own and saw similar results. Now to tweak my g410 hybrid with a GOST shaft!
loving the uploads guys during this lockdown. ive converted my backyard, patio and living room into make shift practice areas. Wife isnt to happy. she doesnt understand the frustration of us golfnuts. lol
stay safe
Great video guys! Getting experimental over there. Might need to give this a go. Stay safe!
Very interesting video. That‘s a great example of deep inside that only you guys provide on youtube.
Fantastic video. I’ve been doing this with UST Recoil Proto Utility shafts. I try to build my hybrids to directly replace long irons using 110 gram shafts to go with the Recoil 125s in my short irons.
Thank you. I learn more from your videos that any others. My hybrid is a stock Titleist 818. I'm going to test out the shorter shaft idea by putting a rubber band on the grip to reference the same length as my 4 iron and see if that helps my consistency issue.
Amazing video. Much needed
Awesome video guys! I was really looking forward to this one. I put a 21* 818H1 with the stock Atmos TS Blue 85S shaft in the bag 2 seasons ago to fill the gap between 4 iron and 3w. Loved it but I was afraid of missing it left...hard left if I went after it. Mid season last year I put a Tensei 105x (untipped) and cut it almost an inch shorter than standard length. What a difference! I play it at C4 (22* / 1* flat) and its my go to 220-225 yd club and if anything my miss is a little right.
Brilliant idea Ian. I just looked at mine, 4 iron to hybrid to 3 wood is all 2" from the next. First hybrids were irons with big soles, now we are lost in the middle. My guess is long shaft = distance which sells of course...
This is awesome. 🐐 stuff ... gotta make a visit 👍
I had several hybrids fitted ,several long irons removed from my bag .It has changed my game. Thank you Titleist.
you have me intrigued i was contemplating a driving iron. will have to look at this when i get in for my fitting after covid19 ends. stay say boys.
Hi guys, love the video. I was having trouble with my 5 iron so Melvyn at 4 counties golf in Staffordshire created a hybrid replacement with a shorter heavier graphite shaft from Tom Wishon’s S2S shafts. Hey presto a club that flies 170 to 175 yards and that’s a lot more consistent than my 5 iron and so much better from the rough. Great from the fairway and a better landing angle so my shots fly and descend without running out too far.
I swing a 5 iron in the mid 70s mph so I now have 3, 4 and 5 hybrid with 6 iron being my longest club. The hybrids are more forgiving and allow a 11 handicap golfer like me to improve my consistency and scoring in the 165 to 200 yard range.
Thank you for your work guy's :)
Very fascinating. This is counter to what OEMs are trying to market regarding distance/ball speed. Another reason why getting with a great fitter is key!
Love this idea of a heavy shorter shaft in the hybrid. I've pretty much given up on hybrids due to over hooking, i will definitely give this a shot.
Great video! Well done.
This will save me some lead tape on the bottom of my CLK that I shortened 1”!! Again, best content on the tube!!!!
How's that?
Love the SIM 3h put a iz 95x in. Since I play +1” the std length with the extra weight was perfect.
Great concept/practice for more control and "forgiving"!!💪💪💪👍👍👍🙂🙂🙂
Great video. I've put an original KBS steel hybrid (105g) shorter stiff shaft in a 915h. It's my gamer with similar results to yours. Point and shoot confidence. It also feels like it blends very naturally with the KBS $-taper S+ shafts in my irons.
Added to my watch list to have a look at later
I was fitted for hybrids 2 no ,5 clubs removed from my bag .It has improved my game ,Thank you Titleist .
I really loves the One Length Cobra hybrid, not just for control but also the flight wasnt soaring like a normal hybrid. Its a tad too short for me, so I customized my own 4 hybrid with lead tape and it works very well.
I use a hybrid to get me out of the rough. Thats where i play my hybrid in my bag, it overlaps my lowest iron but I can get slightly more distance than a 4 iron but it's my go to out of bad lies, fairway bunkers and rough.
Man, You just told everyone my secret! Been gaming my hybrid With an aldila rip phenom 100g shaft cut just a hair over 3 iron length. Its money!
Before my swing went to shite, I did hit my hybrid ok, but the higher flight was challenging to get. And, I will ALWAYS click on your vids because I love to learn. Probably the engineer and geek in me.
Great video. I went from stiff 62 oz driver shaft to hazardous smoke x stiff 70 oz and what a difference. Being a lefty as well ,it straightened me up a lot . Seeing this video, I am definitely going to try shorter and heavier . I love my 4 hybrid and will when all this is over be trying the SIM 4 .
Thanks for the input.
Paul Bunyan in the house.
I did something very similar this past summer. I was using an Accra FX200H in my 23 degree hybrid. I replaced it with a Nippon Modus Tour 130, high launch/low spin. I made it about one inch shorter. My ball flight was higher and distance much more consistent.
I had an old taylormade dual rescue that had a steel shaft and I loved it cause it felt like the rest of my irons. I am really looking forward to trying out that GOST shaft as I've been struggling with my current graphite shaft hybrid.
I fitted shorter steel shafts to my hybrids, just had to weight the head to get swing weight right about D4 love it.
u just answered my question thanks Ingrid
Thanks guys this is wonderful info, even when i hit my hybrids well i only have one shot pattern and that is a low flighted Draw. I would love to experiment with one of my 2 hybrids.Tony
As a Professional Clubfitter, I have been a strong proponent of playing hybrids shorter and heavier than standard lengths for stronger golfers. Although I just turned 71 years old, I play my hybrids at -1/2” to -3/4” in playing length with 88 to 90 gram composite shafts in them, which transitions very well from the 77 to 82 gram shafts in my fairway woods to the 95 gram shafts in my irons. When the hybrid heads have weight ports in them, I have had to resort to installing heavier head weights on some occasions (I also had to do this with a Callaway Epic Flash 7-wood, because I play that club at -1/2”, as well). If a clubhead doesn’t have a weight port, a couple of strips of lead tape generally does the trick.
Interesting. I have a question you might have the answer to, so thanks in advance!
I recently got a Diamana D+ X-Flex 100 Hybrid shaft. The shaft is 42” uncut. I want to install it in my Callaway Apex 19, 3-hybrid.
Mitsubishi recommends trimming the shaft 1” for 3i, so down to 41” length.
However, the stock Callaway Apex 3-hybrid has a 40” shaft. As per your recommendation, I’d like to go 0.5” shorter than stock (so 39.5” but with the Diamana shaft)
Any thoughts on this? Should it be trimmed from the butt and tipped from the tip or butt? Thanks!
@@scoobanny - Unless you are REALLY strong and have a quick swing tempo, I would go with the standard tip-trim instructions (in this case, 1”) and then butt-trim to final playing length.
Doug Mael
@@scoobanny - By the way, you may get a slightly lower-than-standard swingweight when you cut the shaft to play at 39.5” in that Apex hybrid (although the Diamana D+ hybrid shaft is not counter-balanced, so it won’t be too dramatic). If this happens, just add about 4 grams of lead tape at the back of the hybrid head (one 1.5”to 2”long strip of lead tape should do the trick).
@@dougmael Thanks! Sorry, I'm a novice when it comes to club fitting, I initially thoguht that Mitsubishi suggests initially trimming the club from the butt end not the tip end. My bad. So 1" off the tip, then then 1.5" off the butt end. If I understood correctly, cutting from the butt to length won't affect the shaft stiffness as much as trimming from the tip end to length? Thanks!
@@dougmael You also mentioned that you go -0.5" or 0.75", but I was wondering what the final length of your hybrid shaft is. In this video they said they went 2" shorter, but also didn't mentioned the final length. Thanks!
A few years ago I asked a local club fitter why the graphite versions of iron shafts longer than steel. He explained to me the length increase of the lighter graphite shaft increases the swing weight otherwise it is too light. So said why not use a heavier graphite shaft that is shorter in length. I don't use hybrids but in driving iron, I use 105 grams (SteelFiber) shaft opposed to the 70, 80 or 90-gram graphite shaft they usually use for these types of clubs. It is working for me!
My best club in the bag is a pinhawk 4 hybrid (1st version) same length as my 6i (1" longer than standard) with a 6.5 project X shaft. It's heavy in the head but puts me on the perfect swing plane that all I do is swing it nicely and it goes a 220-230m dead straight every time. Mid to high launch. No swing thoughts, just set up comfortably & swing. Good one to test for Matty boi as we have similar SS.
I have a Sonartec 21 with a PXi 6.5 at 5 iron length. Amazing control for me and performs well off the tee and deck.
Comment: I found you guys about 3 weeks ago and I’m trying to soak up as much knowledge as you can offer as this club fitting science is fascinating to me. This has just been a blast and so educational for me. Question: do you pin comments to your vids with the products you are testing? Especially the different shafts? I would love to see that in a pinned comment to then go off to the manufacturers site and read up some more on it.
Great video!! 😀 I do this myself with many of my longer clubs. Normally add head weight though. Rogue 4W with 10g weight instead of 2. Short Aldila Green Mamba 80TX. Straightest club ever 🥳 I am rather sensitive to SW/HW - Can imagine this is in the mid/High C’s 🤷🏼♂️🙂
This is very interesting. I dont have the speed to play a 3 iron, so I play a 3 hybrid (70g shaft), and I play light iron shafts (90g lz tour graphite 6.0). Scaling this for me might be a 80/90g hybrid shaft and then playing it short like Ian suggests. Might need to get my hands on cheap 3 hybrid to bucher for testing.
Thanks for yet another great video!
Hybrid fitting next week, checking this out!
hybrid, my favorite club in the bag
Just switched to a SIM MAX 19° Rescue with a HZRDUS Red 105 shaft. Absolute bomber.
Luca Imwinkelried - That SIM MAX 19* hybrid is so good that it makes a great replacement for a 5 or 7 wood (or both). I have one of them, and when I want to walk the course carrying my bag I try to get down to 10 or 11 clubs. When I do this, the 19* SIM MAX hybrid is the next longest club after my driver and then the next one after that is generally my 5-iron. I can get the in-between distances by choking-down on the 19* SIM MAX.
Always hooked my hybrids until the Titleist 816s. Being able to flatten lie without messing with face angles is a game changer. Started with a 19 degree and liked it so much I got a 23 degree as well. The 23 degree was an eBay fund and it came with a lighter 70 gram shaft. I thought it was going to be an issue but it hasn’t been and these two clubs are probably the most consistent in my bag.
Love this! I did something similar with my Fairway woods, Went to 42.25" 3W and a 41.25" 5W with heavier shafts, more control and easier to hit!
i like the idea of heavier and shorter. kinda trying to figure out my gap at the moment (messing with a mizuno clk 2017 at 22*). very helpful video and definitely a good thought
Great review...Great swing Matt..If your not a scratch player, it is not because you can't hit your woods or irons....Love the content......
That is a great idea. The shorter length could also make it even more of a weapon on bump and run shots. Would love to see a comparison of this kind of hybrid vs a higher lofted utility iron. Thanks guys!
This could also address the one issue I have with my hybrid. The face feels so hot compared to my longest iron. I don't feel like I have control over it.
The only hybrid I have hit consistently well is an older steel-shafted Mizuno Fli-hi CLK 4-hybrid. It’s got a Dynamic gold s300 shaft at a 4-iron length, and I love it. $20 of eBay four years ago! I think Mizuno was on to something in that they saw the hybrid as an iron replacement.
Would love to see a follow up to this and shaft recommendations that worked for people. I'm looking to do this with a Titleist 818 H1 19 Degree Hybrid. Would love to hear any suggestions for shaft choice.
I use TS2 Hybrids in 19 and 23...still heavily considering adding a 27 to my bag to replace my 5 iron. I just hit them so darn straight in the flatter setting you can set. First hybrids I've had (besides the 818H1 that I had that convinced me to replace my 5 wood) that I didn't hook.
TXG .. “optimising your golf”... should be your company statement. Your knowledge Ian is unparalleled... 😉🏌️♂️⛳️🍻
I love this too. Last year i got a hybrid as my tee club.to complement my 4 iron. As my swing changed from 5 out to in to 2 in to out i was missing alot left flattened lie angle now its a soft draw
Going shorter on the hybrid did wonders for me. I couldn’t hit hybrid from the fairway because of hooking it too much, shorter shaft + Sim hybrid is an incredible combination for me. This was the wow moment in my recent club fitting. A complete change in performance without doing anything to my swing. As Ian and Matt said, lie angle of the hybrid is an important factor for the change in performance. Regarding lie of the club, is it possible to flatten a driver? I’m finding massive difference in performance when I start my swing with the driver head in a flatter position (for reference, I’m 5’7, so lie angle on longer clubs matters a lot for me).
I actually just did something very similar to this. Have a Titleist 816 H1 19 that I could never really hit well, and it went too high. It even had a 90g Diamana whiteboard in it, and I still hit it too high. I dabbled with a driving 2 iron, but it was just too hard to hit, and don't like the idea of a 5 wood, as I had enough trouble finding a 3 wood I like. I ended up experimenting with a shaft that matched my irons in the hybrid (parallel NS Pro Modus 3 120), and it's basically built to 3 iron length. For the few times I tested it this winter, it works great. Once this COVID-19 blows over, I can't wait for some course testing and putting it into play.
Just done this on my tm m1 hybrid 3 iron length hzrdus smoke 100gram absolutely mustard now far easier to control
Having a natural draw I was always afraid of my old hybrid with a 70g shaft because I would snap hook it like no other. I now play a g410 3 hybrid with my lie angle 2 flat with a 100g tensei white. It gets a lot of love on my 2nd shot on par 5s
I'm trying out the 122g steel shaft I have in my irons into a 22° hybrid head. Also getting a 100g steel iron shaft in the mail soon for comparison. The shorter for more control and less upright aspect looks very appealing.
Hotmelt in toe worked for me in reducing the draw bias....of course flattening the lie angle will work also.
I do the same thing with hybrid rid length. I put shorter heavier shafts in with more headweight and even set them open on the adjustable sleeves. I feel the control is much better than trying to just smash it.
I have the Sim hybrid and might do this!!
This past year I've replaced my 4 iron with a TaylorMade GAPR Mid, 4 @ 21* and KBS Stiff shaft. Slow tempo down a bit, hit it like a long iron ... trusty straight and long. Then I tried changing my old 5 wood (19*) with with a Callaway Big Bertha Hybrid, 3 @ 18* with UST Mamiya Recoil stiff shaft. Hit it like a long iron - big slice. Hit it like a wood - big hook. Hit it like a 7-iron - goes okay, but sometimes CRUSH it. Can't trust it, but the potential is there ...
Great video as always. Would be interested in seeing a comparison of same hybrid head using a graphite iron shaft like Aerotech SteelFiber which is also multi material.
Did this a couple of years ago. Put a SteelFiber i125 into my Cobra F7 4 hybrid and cut it down to regular 4-iron length (D3 swingweight). Much better contact and control. Still draws a bit but not as much as at the original length. I swap it in and out with a T-MB 4 iron depending on the course.
I live in Michigan and I've considering driving the 5+ hours just to come do a fitting with you guys. Love the channel! By far the best fitting content I've found.
Where are these located?
Did something so similar to this. Replaced an F9 5 wood with Titleist 818 H1 23 Degree lofted down to 22 and using a rogue max 85 shaft. Much more consistent with strikes, not lost much distance and taken the left side out of the equation which I struggled with the F9.
This is a great video as I'm trying to do the same thing with my long irons. I have P790 (1st gen) 3i and 4i heads that I put on KBS TGI 100 stiffs, but using a 5i shaft cut to 5i length (so both the 3i and 4i are on 5i shafts and 5i length). So the idea is I'm trying to see if I can one length my long irons to nothing longer than a 5i length. My irons are a mix of P730s (PW - 8i), and P760s (7i - 5i) in KBS CTaper Lite shafts stiff at 110 grams. The idea was to make the 3 and 4 iron shorter, but using a slightly lighter graphite shaft to make up for the loss in club head speed. Also the P790s are strong lofted heads as you know, so the 3i and 4i are actually a 2i and 3i respectively when it comes to loft.
But, having said this, I'm wondering if I should've gone with a heavier shaft now after watching this video? My swing coach has hit them and he crushes them, but he also has a 120+ MPH driver swing speed (he hit the 3i 250 yards about). But I of course do not have that level of driver swing speed (yet :) and swing around 103 - 105 (starting to get into the 108 area as my technique has been improving). Hence I'm having problems hitting these new 3i / 4i and getting them to perform as intended. I'm trying to figure out if it's me not striking them well, or maybe I just don't have the swing speed to effectively get clubs that low-lofted into the air with a shorter shaft? Hence my question after watching this is maybe I should've used heavier shafts instead?
Anyways, long description, but would love your thoughts on it? :)
The early hybrids had steel shafts, and 3/5 woods it used to be an option. I have struggled with hybrids with graphite shafts so an experiment worth trying.
Be interesting to see the Nippon in a 3/5 wood as well.
I really liked the Matrix Ozik Xcon shaft in my idea pro, stiff flex. However, the stock Fujikura pro stiff is shorter and is great too on my King F7 hybrid.
I replaced my 4 iron with a 22* hybrid with an x stiff 120gram steel shaft at 39", never had this many eagle putts in a season. Perfect club for 230-245 shots
Like this idea. So it's final. I have found my way to get my tour card. What's my secret? A fitting with Ian and Matt. Guaranteed to knock 15 strokes off and get me to +2.LOL, did I hear that right? Approach shot of 240 coming into a Par 5? Yeah, mate. Yeah, right-lol. Just a hybrid off the deck...as I need to hit my 3 wood flush and hope I don't over draw it, or slice it. Good stuff, fellas!
I hit the ball high with a lot of spin (1-2 HCP) and used a driving iron because of it. Missed the forgiveness of a hybrid though, so put a 4iron X100 shaft in an 18* Adams idea pro. Weird mix, but the club feels great and is very accurate!
Gave up on hybrids and found a matching Rogue 5w to my 3w same shaft. Enjoying it not hooking and the soft landing from the higher ball flight. The shorter shafted hybrid makes sense for Cyborg Matt
Most interesting. Ian, my ping 4 hybrid still requires more height. Should we test shorter shaft with a bit heavier shaft?
Interesting. Got my a 85g Tour AD-di shaft, trying to be a tour player with my titleist H1 818 21 degrees and it works pretty decent but maybe cut the shaft an inch or so to try it out :) cool idea! thanks for the content
Great video! My brother has been using a hybrid for years. I try his all the time and cannot hit them at all. I looked at the G410 crossover and the G410 3 hybrid. I bought the hybrid, but still can't hit the damn thing. I was going to go back and exchange for the crossover, but now I want to try what you just did in this video.
I can see another series coming ... :)
Great work guys. If I cut the shaft of my Callaway apex pro 19 19 degree hybrid by 2”, would I need to add 12pts of swing weight to the head?? What sort of yardage loss is average per inch of shaft
Interesting results from this test. I’d certainly like a hybrid for the forgiveness factor but, I don’t game one currently as I always seem to turn the ball over hard and the low CG makes the ball spin up for me as well. I’ve had more success with my TM RSI UDI 2 iron.
Must Be the new G4 SHOES!!!
YOU HITTING THE SKIN OFF YOUR GOLF BALL...I Wish i had that problem Hitting a 3 wood too far🏌️♂️⛳👍
Great video! For the benefit of all of us in isolation for another month, please put out a video on Matt's swing thoughts. What do you think about and focus on to hit it that long and straight???
Check out Larry Cheung's youtube channel, he's my coach and has made a bunch of videos from our lessons
Fantastic round Rick. Time to go pro bro
i use the TGI proto hybrid shaft 110 in my gapr low. Its a beast. give it a try Matty
This is ultra relevant to me. I recently put a 42" (-.5) shaft 6.5 (heavier and stiffer than I usually play) in my 5w and it has increased my distance a lot due to my superior contact.
jaconbits - 42” is still generally too long of a playing length for a 5-wood. I am far from being short in stature (just a hair less than 6’ tall), and I prefer my 4-wood at 42”, and if I have a 5-wood in my bag it will be no more than 41.5” long. I don’t carry both at the same time; my standard fairway wood setup is 16* 4-wood (42”) and 20* or 21* 7-wood (41”).
dougmael The G410 i’m playing is factory 42.5 for the 5w, with the 7w factory 42. So i’m playing Ping’s 7w length spec in my 5w
So Matt doesn't use 3 wood into par fives because the holes "not long enough" and here I am hitting 3 wood into some par fours 🤦♂️🤦♂️ I wish I had Matt's issues.
Steven Stewart I’m with you brother.
@@brianwaldo2642 Me too, I have never ever, ever said, "this hole isn't long enough!!!
@@banditbaker1675 I have, when I was 2 ft past the pin with a drive on a short par 4..........
@@oldgold5848 But did you make the Putt?
Steven Stewart I also did a double take on that one, “Did he just say what I think he said?” 🤯
I have the same struggle. I found a used tour issue Callaway Apex 2016 3 hybrid on eBay with a UST IROD 105f5 shaft and cut it to 2 iron length. Threw some lead tape on it to get her to D2 and I'm striping it. I'd love to get the GOST shaft in a newer hybrid but it's very expensive
Would be great to see you review the mizuno jpx fli hi hybrid, shorter and a great club
I've done this exact thing on my last 2 hybrids - i.e. cut them to 39" which is 1" longer than my longest iron - my 5 iron which I play at 38" and I play it strong lofted at 24 degree - a typical 4 iron loft. This one change transformed my comfort playing my hybrid - a 22 degree #4 Taylormade GapR High, which I play 2 clicks stronger and open at 21'ish degrees. I'm using the stock 80 gram KBS Hybrid Shaft but I'm not too sensitive to shaft weighting in general and I am still coming back from elbow injuries. The other trick I personally like, is the Crossfield idea of setting up certain clubs to Draw - as hitting a fade is always easy in my opinion - so I adjusted the shaft to the 180 degree upright setting - this gives the club a natural 5-10 yard draw which gives me the comfort of being able to really commit to a long forced carry at a full speed swing in the 210-215 yard range - I can comfortable hit the high fade type 195 yard soft cut which is very natural with the club's natural starting line left given the lie. Heavier shorter hybrids are the future in my opinion - sort of where 1 length technology showed some promise.
Great idea And this is why it pays to go the experts to get fitted.