Death of Powder | Arcane FINALE Fiancé Reaction | Ep 9 "The Monster You Created”
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- In the final episode of Season 1, everything that we've been building towards collides, resulting in one of the more shocking, well done, emotional, and saddening season finales we have ever seen. With so much incredible animation, storytelling, and depth conveyed within the first 9 episodes of this brilliant and groundbreaking new series, we cannot wait to see what happens next in 2 years!
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Arcane, Season 1, Episode 9, “The Monster You Created”
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Owl House, cause it's closest to ending, so you can get the full series sooner.
Dragon Prince is approached it's fourth season, and Young Justice just concluded its fourth season with no end in sight.
Owl House, unfortunately (for reasons you'll soon learn from the VERY protective fanbase), had it's third and final season cut short to three 45-minute specials, with the first of which coming in a couple weeks.
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"Is there anything so undoing as a daughter" that line really hit deep considering Vi was also kind of Vander's undoing
Mel's mom getting real nervous.
@@xanadu6784 Mel's mom already said it, too. She said she sent her away because looking in Mel's eyes made her question her own decisions.
She literally was. She's the real reason he turned soft. Just like Jinx turned Silco soft. It's why he went to Vander's statue to talk about it. He finally understood why Vander did what he did. "It all makes sense now, brother."
@@EyeGlassTrainofMind Yep, Mel's mom recognized it, and immediately got rid of her undoing by exiling her. Sadly, the momet she lets her back in, undoing might befall her.
@@kenjutsukata1o1 Neither of them made Vander or Silco do anything, they had agency in there decisions and both decided with different motivations to take a child under there care, which as consequence makes you rethink any major decision you would have taken before in a heartbeat with more of caution, because they had innocent young lives depending on them making the best choice that won't put you or the kids in danger.
Jinx was so upset because Vi could accept Caitlyn as an enforcer, but not Jinx for changing and not being the same powder
Good point. Never thought of that
I think you’re right from Jinx’s perspective. It’s sad bc Vi isn’t reluctant to accept changes in her sister. Vi will always love her and accept her as a sister. Vi is against the acceptance of the violent & sociopathic traits that have grown. Especially since Vi would attribute those “monstrous” traits to VI’s own actions and Silco’s monstrous ways.
Well, Jinx is insane. Anything that doesnt please her, she destroys.
@@avatrice3077 Well that's incredibly reductive and offensive
@@avatrice3077 She's a teenager with severe trauma, PTSD, Schizophrenia and who knows what else. Boiling her down to just "insane" is incredibly ableist and gross as hell
Ella Pernell received an Emmy for the voice acting of Jinx, this is the first award in her life.
as she should
Just one of the Emmys this show received
She received an Annie award, not an Emmy. There were no voice acting Emmy nominations for Arcane. Chadwick Boseman won the Emmy for Outstanding Character Voice-Over Performance posthumously for his work in Marvel's "What If...?"
Also not at all her first award. She previously won six awards for her 2015 performance in Wildlike.
Mia shouldve had one too.
The Powder voice acting is easily the best in the show.
I love that the entire time vi had the gauntlets they had the ability to make a shield, but she just never knew because she refused to block
Ekko: “And you still block with your face!”
Vander: “Well, your guard needs work.”
Not only does the shield reference her in-game passive, but it shows how Vi had to change her fighting style to really defeat Sevika in their rematch.
Dude I cant even tell you how much Arcane content I've watched.. but I've never heard anyone point this out 😂 it's hilarious and clever writing as usual in this show
Need to get this out there: the arcane shield is NOT a designed feature of the Atlas Gauntlets. (You don't need a shield for mining.) The spontaneous shield is likely a feature OF THE ARCANE. Remember: "the arcane speaks THROUGH them." So Vi clearly thought that she needed protection in that moment and the arcane responded to her need. Also, take note: Jayce wears an arcane gem in his cuff and he is faced with a similar need at the very end of the season... so the arcane will do... what? ;-)
@briankluk6309 Nah shields for mining do make sense. If a cave in happens or you make a mistake and a big rock is about you fall on your head the shield would protect you in those instances
@@growlithekid1 But if the shield was a designed feature of the gauntlets, why didn't Jayce and Viktor show it to Heimerdinger?
Correction: Silco never knew Vi did not abandon Powder.. he clearly believes she did abandon her.. Powder's even the one who told him “she left me, she is not my sister anymore”. He did not saw Vi but Marcus told him he "took care of her”. Silco's only lie to Jinx when he discovers Vi is alive and came back for Powder.
Character = Bad (must be doing anything bad) mentallity definitely makes people blind to what is really happening in show.
Also character = Good (always right) does too. Vi is the chief example of this. People always agree with her when she makes a *lot* of bad calls and takes.
@@kenjutsukata1o1 it's even funnier when you notice the many similarities silco and vi have between each other...
In my opinion, there is no such thing like Good and Bad in this show. That's why i love this show. Even Silco wasn't completely Bad, he did it for a reason, to achieve independence. Vi did many questionable decisions. Rich dudes just neglected undercity for their own good (just like real life), Heimer is the same, he is part of the problem why undercity is underdeveloped. Probably purest character of the show is Caitlyn.
Something a lot of people miss is that Mel's mom completes the trifecta of ambitious parents who are softened by their children, the thing that's interesting is unlike Silco and Vander, Mel's mom notices that Mel is softening her and she completely rejects it and tries to get Mel away from her
Interesting bit of speculation for season 2: If Mel dies because of Jinx's attack, her mom is going to go complete the other way and become even more brutal and ruthless to try to avenge her daughters death - key reason why I think Mel won't make it to season 2 (or if she does, she'll be severely injured) the potential for drama between Mel's Mom and Jinx is just too great, and they'd be fools to pass it up (unless of course they think of something way better, that hasn't even occurred to me).
@@LadyDoomsinger Mel's mother told her sth like "we have troubles Mel, the man, who killed your brother, wants to destroy our family", and most likely she was talking about Swain, the Grand General of Noxus Empire. He took the throne of the Empire some time before the arcane events, and probably Mel's family was allied to the previous ruler. Also Jinx has been seeing crows all the time, and Swain has a magic, that allows him to see through crow's eyes.
@@lecwizard didn't Jinx shoot at a crow at one point in the show?
@@LadyDoomsinger Mel is the one person in that room I would bet makes it out unharmed, her escape was already foreshadowed in her flashback when she mentioned installing a secret escape route in the throne room, just before she was banished.
The fact that Silco finally understood Vander and gave up his dream just like Vander to protect his daughter, but once again Jinx didnt listen the whole thing just like she was a kid.
I love that many people actually question if Caits head is on that platter. In the average show that would be such a predictable fake out, but they nailed Jinx so well that there is real tension in that moment.
It was the most tense I'd been in a show in a LONG time. I forgot to breathe from the moment I saw Jinx show up with the platter 'til it was revealed to be a cupcake.
It’s really telling that we all think that’s actually about to happen. It says a lot about how we the viewer now understand Jinx.
This show masterfully creates tension. They did so many things to set up that scene.
1. You see Jinx appear in Caitlyn's room at the end of episode 8 and she drew her "monkey". Every time we've seen this, people were killed by Jinx- The Firelights in the ship, the Enforcers in the fire and later on the bridge, and of course that originated from the monkey bomb in episode 3.
2. You don't see Caitlyn for the entirety of episode 9 until that scene- even though they showed everyone else involved already.
3. We already know Jinx is unhinged, but with shimmer in her system there's no telling how much more she could be.
Basically they planted all the seeds to it from the beginning and it really just goes to show how much care and attention was put into it.
I was unsure about Caitlin being alive, and i knew pretty well that she cannot die, because she is in multiple games as a character. Brilliant
@@dezm0n679Exactly
Jinx: "Make her go away. Please."
That line confused me for a while. I knew it had to go deeper than, "lol look how crazy jinx is." This scene is truly devastating once you realized what jinx is really asking Vi in that moment. The line is a callback to Vi making Jinxe's monsters go away when they were children. Remember Vi's story to caitlyn about chasing Powder's monsters away and then think about how Jinx views Caitlyn on the bridge. As this kind of demonic monster that's trying to replace her in Vi's heart. Jinx isn't just asking Vi to kill Caitlyn, she wants her big sister to make the monsters go away. When she refuses it confirms Jinx's worst fears.
"I thought maybe you could love me like you used too, even though I'm different. BUT YOU CHANGED TOO."
That's my take as well. And when she states that "But you changed too" line, it even cuts to a shot of Caitlin, sort of driving that point home.
@@Mi_Z I'm less sure. Jinx doesn't hallucinate Caitlyn as a monster in the dinner scene, even when they are pointing guns and shooting at each other. She's testing Vi. Sure, she is referring to how she made monsters go away in her childhood, but she's doing it intentionally. I think, during this scene Jinx actually comes to terms with the idea that Caitlyn isn't a monster. She has ample opportunity to kill her after she kills Silco. (She's killed downed, hated opponents before.) I believe she doesn't, because she still loves Vi, and doesn't want to hurt her.
@@Hohum37 I view it as intentional as well... I don't think Jinx thinks of Caitlyn literally as a monster. At least not in the scene we are referring to ... on the bridge, maybe a bit more so.
It's a test. I view the entire tea party scene as one big test.
oh dame u are right I didnt even think about it
@@Hohum37 personally I think it's perspective. Not just the bridge but even the scene where she's being injected with shimmer, she sees caitlyn as a monster. She was also ready to kill caitlyn, she did point the gun and knowing jinx's lack of care for others lives she would have done it too. However, she only stops because vi speaks up and offers something she hasn't consider "we go away, you'll never have to see him again". This catches her off guard. Because it doesn't just mean running from silco, it means running from caitlyn as well.
I do think jinx sees caitlyn as a monster. It's been etched into her mind ever since sevika brought it up "she's with some girl enforcer, guess she replaced you". That and pair it with jinx's lack of regard for human life she could easily see her as a monster.
There is an interesting interview with Silco's VA where he talks about the last scene. Basically, he says that Silco did not see it as choosing between the undercity and Jinx, because to him Jinx WAS the undercity. She was the embodiment of everything he valued about the undercity and what he wanted for their future(chaos, strength, etc.). That is why he said she was perfect.
I love that the title not only refers to the obvious creation of Jinx but also refers to Caitltyn. Cuz when Vi and Cait were laying on her bed and Vi talked about how her and Powder pretended to be bigger monsters, then Vi would pretend to chase her own monsters away when Powder would get scared. Thats exactly what happened in the last scene, Jinx saw Caitlyn as this monster that Vi created and she was too scared to get rid of it, so she gave her big sister the gun and asked her once again to "make her go away", to make the big scary monster go away.
Wow...what the fuuuuckl! How did actual human beings make this show
@@elviiralehtonen1604 righttt??
Maan
I didn't look at it this way
That's brilliant. I thought Jinx gave the gun to Vi because if she killed Caitlyn herself, Vi would never accept her. But if Vi is the one who pulls the trigger, then Jinx's hands are (somewhat) clean and it proves to Jinx how much Vi cares for her (and how far she's willing to go be together again).
Ahem...
Couldn't you say that Piltover made the undercity, and the entire system that kept the underclass in check? Can't you look at the council, and tell them that all of this is the monster they created?
I've said this on every reaction to this episode I've watched, and I'll say it on every reaction to this episode I will watch.
I am convinced that Silco pulled the gun on Vi, not because he was afraid of losing Jynx, but because he saw how much distress Jynx was in and it was the only move he could make to stop Vi from hurting her like that.
My first impression was that he pulled he gun on Vi because he was afraid of losing Jinx.
But like you, now I am leaning towards the idea it was because Vi was sending Jinx into PTSD-land, and it was the only way he could stop her.
Question I have is: Did he wish to kill Vi, or did he shoot at her (not necessarily to kill her), to get her to stop? We all know that Silco wouldn't mind killing Vi, but would he wish to do so in front of Jinx? Logically we'd say probably not... but it's not like everyone in that room was acting so logically at that moment.
So not sure... that seems open to interpretation.
It could be both and I think it’s both. Silco is a complicated character and his motives are never one note when it comes to Jinx. Yes he loves her and cares for her, but he’s also incredibly possessive over her to the point of isolating her from everyone else. Both of those statements are true. So him killing Vi is probably both to keep Jinx and to stop her from hurting at the moment
@@Mi_Zit’s interesting to notice that the pistol is smoking when he drops it. He got a shot off. Wether he missed, or intentionally did no harm… I dunno.
One thing that stuck with me a lot about Jayce's interaction with Ekko/Silco:
Ekko: "he paid in gold and didn't even haggle."
Silco: "The boy didn't even haggle".
This shows us Jayce's character and how he is willing to do whatever it takes to achieve his goals, the central difference is that in the first interaction it was for him and his research, now, more mature, he will do whatever it takes to set things right.
Because as Viktor told him, "In the pursuit of great we failed to do good."
It is his time to do good.
I really do like that callback..... but, Jayce did haggle - he wanted Jinx. Silco's counter-haggle (she was acting under my orders) was ineffective.
He didn't haggle as in he didn't push back against the demands, jayce hust had his own demands as well
@@inazuma-fulgurwell he is haggling on “blanket amnesty” by demanding Jinx be given up for prosecution.
@@surlycanadian that's true and was lost on me.
I feel if I was really trying to devils advocate this then it's because Jynx' crimes were unrelated to the injustice of topside. But that's kinda bollocks
The real villain of the show is the council which continually neglected the needs and wellbeing of the entire undercity, and yet wanted to remain in control of it
They have just spent nine episodes showing us that things aren't black and white, everyone had a part to play in the tragedy.
and the second that changes they get nuked xd
Well yes.... and Silco as well.
@@Hohum37 The conditions for that tragedy to take place are put in place by a council that has neglected an entire population for generations. Generations of people lived and died working in hazardous conditions without being heard or having their grievances even thought about. It only became a concern to top side when the undercity developed themselves enough to become a legitimate threat. Sure the individual council members are complex people who are not necessarily villainous ... but the institution that has been the council is.
@@OlmanWillo If we're going to back through the cause/effect chain without regard for nuance: The city was founded to escape from the warmongering of mages and wouldn't even be here but for them.
Or, we could play "what if". If Silco wasn't a power crazy maniac (or if Vander had actually killed him) then tensions wouldn't be nearly so high and it's plausible that Piltover and Zaun could have benefitted from Jayce and Viktor's desire to help them.
edit - I just reread this - it comes off snarkier than I intended. I apologies.
Silco is like some of the best villains who actually have good goals that they seek to accomplish through terribly and genuinely evil means. The line "is there anything so undoing as a daughter" is the ultimate moment showing who Silco is... because when he made that speech, he thoguht he was alone and not trying to manipulate or convince anyone... it was his most honest moment that serves to see how much he had changed from the beginning of the show to the end.
Silco is parallel to Jayce and Viktor. "In pursuit of great, we failed to do good."
@@TobiNano Note that 'we need to make it right' directly overlays Silco reading the letter from Jayce asking to parlay, which he agrees to.
The scene where Vander gives Vi the strength to get up and fight has me bawling my eyes out every time.
Violet dreams of Vander cheering her on to fight. But in the first 3 episodes, Vander is the opposite.
Vander never told Violet that fighting was a good thing, or did not state it in the first 3 episodes.
In the last 6 episodes, Violet misremembers her memories in many scenes or wants to remember it that way.
@@n0bleonline222 Doesnt matter, actions speak louder than words.
5:45 I always kinda interpreted that as the Hex core punishing Viktor for threatening it. Like, it's gained a level of sentience now. You can see it almost cower when Viktor lifts the chair, then after it sort of zaps him Viktor clutches his leg, and after that he's back to limping again. When Viktor tells Jayce he "can't do it" in reference to destroying the Hex core, it's not just about willpower, I don't think he's physically able to. The Hex core can hurt him.
It’s literally part of him now, he can’t work up the nerve to severe it. It’s like trying to cut off your own hand.
Yeah, and I think he also recognizes that if Jayce destroys the core, he'll lose his legs again. Problem is, from a story writing perspective, it would be really unlikely that the core will be destroyed with how much attention and foreshadowing they have given it. Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if this is going to end up the real threat which might even unite the top and under city. It might also cause the topsiders to seek refugee in the undercity since the core is at the moment topside, which could also lead to some interesting dynamics as the "power" would then be switched and it is the under city which now hold power over the lives of the topsiders. Just speculation ofcourse.
I think Jayce was *going* to destroy it after the council meeting. Whether he's still able to afterward, we'll see. And we don't know if it even *can* be destroyed at this point, now that it's become such a combination of organic and magical and twisted it's original form so much, but if anything could it's probably Jayce's hammer. @@ruud9761
One of the most easily missed details from this episode is that, once the decision is made - Jinx or Powder - even before it is said out loud but with the act that seals her fate as Jinx... All the voices and chaos in her head have faded away. She is calm, and whole, and collected. The conflict of who she is is gone, and it is rooted so thoroughly in her acceptance of who she is, rather than trying so desperately to cling to her past
Vi definitely hadn’t made it alone so far. Sevika would’ve killed her if Caitlyn didn’t save her.
Yeah, cause she basically suckerpunched her (with a knife)
Agreed. Vi made it to where she was because of the people around her. That's one of the key aspects of leadership that Vander was trying to instill into her in the early episodes.
also every time we meet Sevika in the tavern, she's working on her arm. You can notice (after couple rewatches) that her arm gets more and more complicated and adds her new moves. So in the last fight they both got upgraded
I think she's referring to her prison time. The events with Caitlyn happen in like a weeks time, but vi spent years alone in that prison and survived
@@km9833 I don’t think she was referring to that because of the context of when she said it and how they both keep mentioning how she “beat” Sevika during their first fight (even though she didn’t). That implies that she “made it that far alone” in terms of fighting against Silco and his goons when she hasn’t.
This episode (more than any other in the show) always sparks a huge debate about how genuine is the love Silco *and* Vi have for Jinx, and I think that debating that is a huge misenterpretation of both of their characters. There's absolutely no question whether Silco was good for Jinx and manipulative, even though he didn't mean to be any of those things, but to question the fact that Silco loves her is also foolish. On the other hand, questioning Vi's love for her sister, whether we're talking about Powder or Jinx, is probably even more foolish. Vi loves her sister no matter what she might do, but she doesn't *enable* her and accept the fact that she is now a killer that laughs as she shoots her victims, which is completely understandable. Expecting Vi to accept her sister being completely different after being thrown in jail for more than half a decade is being very dismissive of Vi's own trauma and isn't giving Vi a fair chance. You can debate about pretty much everything, but there's no denying that Vi and Silco love Jinx.
Thing is, it's not a question of being fair. Is it fair to Vi? Nope. Is anything fair to any character in the show? Nope. Vi does love her sister, but she doesn't accept her... to Jinx, this will come across as conditional love.
And it's not so much that Jinx is even a killer. I mean Vi is a flat out murderer herself. And up until a couple of days previously, she wouldn't have an inkling of moral quandary about killing enforcers ... in fact, she'd probably cheer it on.
But Vi has an image of her sister still being Powder. She knows her sister has changed, but she still clings falsely to this idea. And she thinks Silco 'brainwashed' her sister into becoming who she is. Vi's decision-making also is rather... suspect (stating it kindly)... through out the entire show. She doesn't even get past the tea party scene, before misunderstanding the situation... she triggers Jinx, making things even worse. Her hatred of Silco pretty much blinds her, even to who her sister really is, and why she is.
So if we want to say it's not entirely fair to Vi, okay. But she is the one who made Jinx... her actions led to a ton of pretty bad consequences... and in the end, she didn't accept her sister as she is, but wanted to change her back to that 10 year old girl, which obviously is impossible. She failed the tea party test.
First of all, you can not question someone's feeling of “love” as NOT love just because it is not your ideation of love is. Love is irrational and abstract, some “love” is twisted.. love cannot be defined.
It is not debatable because the Voice Actor for Silco actually made conversations with the writers and directors of the show asking his characters' motivations and reasons for the scenes. He was told (and he also believes) that Silco loves Jinx and everything he said in the last episode were genuine.
But viewers still believes they know better than the people who actually created the show.
Silco loved her for who she was, even when it killed him. Vi loved the memory of who she used to be, even if she had to hurt who she was to try and get that back.
@@Mi_Z And to follow it up, it's also okay for Jinx to not like who Vi became, either. The sister who would have done literally anything for her is now being friendly (REALLY friendly) with someone who is supposed to be their enemy, and even 'choosing' her over Jinx (Jinx literally offered to return 'Powder' if Vi killed an enforcer, a person that Vi wouldn't have shed a single tear over in the old days). Vi already blew it (as far as Jinx is concerned) when she 'abandoned' her, so the tea party was a second chance in a lot of ways. A second chance to see if the Vi she knew and loved was still there. Thus the line "but you changed too". Ironically, Jinx came to the realization that they were both no longer the person they used to be while Vi still hasn't fully come to grips with it. I think Vi is a great character, but it is exhausting that so many people can't fathom the idea that she also is in the wrong (due to her being 'hero-coded', I reckon). Something I rarely see mentioned is how shaken up Jinx was by the fact that Sevika was telling the 'truth'. Sevika told her that her sister was hanging out with an enforcer, an idea that Jinx dismissed out of hand because in her mind there was no way that could be true. It was an absolutely absurd idea, the sister she knew hated enforcers. So when she saw that Vi really was with an enforcer, it completely rattled her. If Sevika wasn't lying about that, maybe she wasn't lying about Vi just being there for the stone either. All bets were off, because her sister was doing the one thing she was convinced she'd never, ever do. *conjecture-based potential spoilers below*
And if League's lore is any indication, Vi is going to join the enforcers, which will only cement her change to Jinx. And Jinx isn't wrong, either.
@@kenjutsukata1o1 Some nice points.
I'd like to point out the 'old days' was only like 2-3 days ago, which seems weird when you think about it. I realize the show had to do things the way they did, but it still comes across as kind of tv-showish (one of the few times)... not a whole lot of time has passed between Vi thinking of enforcers as criminals in uniforms and despising them, to working with them and having a cupcake relationship. And I realize it's not super relevant to this conversation, but the timeframe kind of bugs me.
And I don't think Jinx ever believed she could summon 'Powder' back during that scene, but the offer is what mattered... and it was a callback to the earlier episode of 'chasing away the monsters'. Unlike the past, Vi didn't chase them away this time, didn't take Jinx's side.
Good catch in regard to the earlier scene w/ Sevika.
And I wouldn't necessarily say Vi was wrong in the sense of it making her a bad person, during that final scene. She's simply a flawed character, with questionable decision-making abilities -- making incorrect choices quite often. But what does bug me sometimes is how her hero-coding occasionally blinds people into thinking she ALWAYS makes the right or good choices. The council scene where she gave up her sister's name is an example of this -- I don't think I have seen a single reactor comment on that scene or mention how perhaps that wasn't the smartest move by Vi there. I mean it's just another betrayal, but everyone sort of lets it slide. Or Vi's planning... which equates to "Punch, punch and punch some more... and worry about the consequences later." She's an example of a hero-coded character whose actions quite often aren't so heroic.
When the bad guy's death makes you sad, that's when you know the writers did at least one thing well
Powder sees jinx as the reason she was able to keep going and not end her life, it was her coping mechanism, her drive. So when she says Vi made jinx, for Powder/jinx that's positive. You gave me a reason to continue, your voice was my motivation to go on
Silco finally understood why Vander did what he did to protect the kids and they both died trying to protect their daughters
I feel like Vi puts a little too much blame on Jayce considering he’s been on the council for like a week. Dude just got the power he needed to make systematic changes.
does she know that tho?
I mean, it was a Royal "You", she wasnt talking about Jayce, but about the Topsiders.
And was having progress on it
@@LaMadriguera I mean that’s not much better than because that means she’s lumping them altogether in a similar way everyone in the lanes gets lumped together.
@@jonathanrobinson198 The point of the show is that all of the characters are flawed and make bad calls/have wrong perceptions. It's what makes it so engaging. Though a lot of people seem to miss the part where Vi is included in that.
"Are we prepared for Arcane Episode 9?" "Absolutely." No. No, you aren't. You know, I still haven't forgiven them for getting Sting to sing the final song. His voice is just so beautifully haunting, and they couldn't have gotten a more appropriate vocalist for this.
The scene of Vi telling Jayce that Piltover has a huge part of the responsibilty for everything that has happened in the Undercity is the thing I believe made Jayce try to give the Undercity its independence, along with his experience in the Shimmer factory and realizing just how incompetent the Council really is. Not only does the Undercity have terrible conditions, but Piltover also exploited what little resources they had and they did it by using its citizens for labor. Then the Council ignores all of their pleas, bad conditions and anger and suddenly they're surprised the people are causing an uprising. Like Vi said, all of the things in the Undercity are caused by the Council using them and then burying their head in the sand while the people are suffering and kingpins and people that are able to exploit everything use the situation to their advantage.
I love the scene at the table where Vi tells Jinx she should picture Mylo, Clagger, Vander etc. For Vi these people mean good memories but Jinx saw hounting ghosts in her head and begged Vi to stop.
It's understandable for someone to think Silco would definitely give up Jinx for Zaun's independence because "Power only comes to those who would do anything to achieve it" is literally the philosophy he lives by but not being able to go through with it if it means sacrificing his daughter is the entire point of Silco's character arc.
And yet the whole point with him talking to Vander's statue is that his entire life's work/philosophy had been overturned by having a daughter, just like Vander's had. So many people miss the significance of that scene.
@@kenjutsukata1o1 It doesnt help that we have Jinx there also misunderstanding the scene. We're meant to second guess what exactly that line means. (although to me it was pretty obvious he loves her)
Except that's not what happens. First off: We will never know if he would've actually chosen Jinx over Zaun. Secondly, the only reason this was a dilemma for him was because Jinx was his main weapon against Piltover.
@@gazelle_diamond9768 It's come to the point where I have to assume you simply don't know english if you think Silco didn't make his choice super clear.
If his mannerisms and the entire defeated tone of his voice before Vander's statue wasn't a big enough clue, what exactly do you think 'undoing' refers to in the line "Is there anything so undoing as a daughter"? I'm genuinely curious.
@@LoyaltL Did you not understand what that sentence means? It means that Silco's daughter (Jinx) would be his downfall.
Nothing about that shows A. that he actually cares about her nor B. that he has already made a final decision.
"In the pursuit of great. We failed to do good." Makes me cry every time i hear it. One of the first pieces of media to explore such a theme so well. One of the hardest hitting scenes ever writte
Silco did genuinely think Vi had abandoned Jinx. Jinx even told him that Vi had.
Also the other episode when told that Vi is back, "From the dead?" He absolutely believed she was dead by the time E4 hit as well.
that's just insane. Silco is absolved from how cringey his lines came across then. Just insane.
I think Mel's mom is actually on of the smartest character in the show. She knew the undercity would get out of control if left unchecked and what she predicted to Jayce actually came true. "Slaughtered with your eyes closed"
Plus, I LOVE her last conversation with Mel.
Being the leader of a war-like nstion like Noxus must be tough, and having your own daughter look at you with fear and disgust for having to make difficult decisions for your own survival . . .
I can see where she's coming from.
@@haydenberends3905 For me though, the thing is that her method also failed her. She lost power in Noxus and is now desperately seeking power because she can no longer stand on strength alone.
I'm pretty sure Jayce doesn't die, he's in the League of Legends game. Thats what my friends told me.
@@Droobie03 Of course. Vi, Jinx, Viktor, and Caitlin should all be safe, as well.
@@haydenberends3905 although I don't think they would kill league characters so soon Arcane it's its own cannon, so league characters can die, I just don't expect any of them dying the first time they show up.
43:15 I fully agree. It's so funny that it looks like the writers deliberately presented you with a full set of apparently cliché characters to then dive into them and subvert your expectations and the tropes themselves. All of them were nuanced and even if this show doesn't really have your typical heroes and villains, the characters who better align those are "heroes" who do really wrong things and "villains" who are capable of good.
All good points. I recall during episode 1 thinking I had this show figured out, so many archetypes that typically would move the story ahead in a rather predictable fashion. And by episode 3 I realized... nope, it's not that type of show at all.
Only odd thing is how the reactors sort of clung to the good/bad guy tropes past that episode. Then again, they probably were influenced by all the other shows they have watched, and figured things would sort of settle back down and the show would follow a more traditional pattern.
Vi is a 'hero' ... who makes an awful lot of mistakes, and behaves non-heroically quite often. Silco is the 'villain'... he's evil... well, he has to be, since he's the villain, and will always do bad things, right? Well, hmm... he does seem to be awful loyal to be so evil. And, well now that I think on it, his goal actually seems to be noble... and... wait, he truly loves Jinx?
And for those locked into the good/bad guy mindset, it sort of confuses them. Some even kind of bend what is being shown into what they think should instead happen. Vi has excuses... she didn't just rat out her sister to the council... she didn't abandon her sister again... her plans make sense, even though her plans typically involve just punching something repeatedly... And even in this reaction video, Montana didn't buy that Silco truly loved Jinx... even after Silco was willing to sacrifice himself in lieu of Jinx during the peace treaty scene, and after the entire fountain scene. It's because it didn't fit the preconceived notion of Silco = always bad.
Arcane is a triumph of video game adaptations! Can't wait for season 2 whenever it happens.
A triumph of writing in general. It's not just good for a video game adaptation, it's just plain good. I'd never played League prior to watching (still haven't, actually) and thought it was incredible. Still do.
@@kenjutsukata1o1 Not to mention that League is basically a blank slate. It's not a narrative game at all. It has no story. Just lots of background lore to the characters. But none of that is gameplay relevant.
So they could simply start from scratch and invent their own story, without being confined to any storyline that the game had already set. Because it is not that type of game.
@@Quotenwagnerianer it has a lot of story just not in game. Hundreds of stories, comics, single player game focused on story and the book is coming out about the Ruination.
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This is one the most frustratingly well-done season finales I've ever seen, and I can't really complain about it.
God, hate that this show loves cliffhangers, but it's done well
TBH, I think the "cliffhanger" is the best way to end this part of the story. This story has been, ultimately, about Jinx and how she's going to affect her world going forward. She's decided what that will look like (hexplosive chaos for anyone she wants to inflict it on) and has effectively sent her message when she pulled the trigger of her hextech rocket launcher (named Fishbones in the game).
She's the point where all the deep dualities of the show come together: chemtech and hextech, progress and oppression, father and daughter, shimmer and natural biology, nature and nurture represented as Powder and Jinx. And this is how she's settled the conflicts within her. Using hextech weaponry developed under the oppression of the "City of Progress" to carry out the wishes of her second adoptive father that she's killed trying to protect her biological sister while also reconciling her chaotic and aggressive nature with her calculatingly violent and power-driven upbringing under Silco. I don't think she cares about what the outcome is, the rocket is about deciding who she's going to be and making sure everyone feels just as scared and uncertain as she used to before this moment. The aftermath of the rocket will change a lot of other stories, and probably start a few, but it doesn't matter to the story of Jinx, which is the core of this first season.
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One of the easiest ways to tell that Silco does genuinely care for Jinx is by his actions. Everything he does in this show after episode 3 is in favor of her. He doesn’t make a single decision that jeopardizes or harms her in any way. And it’s not just because he wants her to make the Hextech weapon because he could use Singed for that. We know it’s not an act because he displays this behavior at all times. Even when she’s not around.
Not to mention, he actually doesn't benefit from having her around because she keeps messing up. It's her literal name. Sevika said it best: "maybe Silco will finally get the message that you're as good for our cause as you were for your family". The reason why he favors her so much is purely sentimental.
@@Lesaloote exactly. All of those decisions are to her benefit, and to his detriment. Every single thing that goes wrong for him is because of her, he knows that, and STILLLLL keeps her around. If that’s not clearly love, I don’t know what is.
+ I agree, 10/10 analysis
Tell that to the blind and prejudiced Silco haters.
They ignore every single piece of evidence that is positive about Silco.
@@n0bleonline222 I don't care whether he was truly attached to Jinx or not. The relationship they have isn't healthy, and it's not good for Powder. He's an obsessive murderer and drug lord who killed her real father figure and caused the chain of events that lead to the deaths of Mylo and Claggor, which damaged her possibly irreparably. His love for her, genuine or not, is colored by his own abandonment issues he projects on her, and he has his fair share of responsibility for shaping her into the unstable personality she has now.
None of that takes away his own complexity or his sympathetic traits like his dedication to an independent Zaun. But let's not gloss over his toxic traits and the damage he caused because you're all projecting your daddy issues on him.
@@samrevlej9331Nobody in the show is pure. If you want to out real world standards on fictional characters living through a magical civil war then Vander put the kids in danger too. But we have to be realistic by allowing fantasy.
Does that absolve Silco? No. But writing him off as no good for Jinx doesn't help either. He both harmed her and helped he. He shows remarkable parenting skills, in fact many situations he handled better than Vander did. He is a terrible person. But in the context of fantasy, yes the daughter of a drug lord King pin wouldn't have the healthiest relationship regardless of how he treats her, so I would judge in that context.
So much in this episode. Silco basically showing and professing his true love for Jinx as a daughter to him. Jinx struggling to fight her inner demons and in the process destroying any chance of peace for two sides. Jayce finally standing up for his true beliefs despite what the council may think. And a great line from Viktor that i think can be applied to real life a lot:
"In pursuit to do great, we failed to do good"
And of course one of the best cliff hangers out there!
There's a really great callback. In episode 8, when Vi describes the game she played with her sister when they were super young, making bigger and scarier monsters until Powder would get scared and Vi had to chase the monster away... Jinx remembers the game too: "Makee her go away. Please?" She's begging her big sister to make Caitlyn, the scariest monster, go away.
Jinx doesn't "choose" to be Jinx or "kill Powder" when she sits in her chair. She just finally comes to terms with reality. Powder is seven(?) years in the past, buried under everything that happened on that fateful night in episode 3, and in the intervening time. She is that girl, but she is not and can't ever be ONLY that girl. The intervening time and experiences won't go away. Jinx is, thus, the second character in the show to step truly into the present, neither living for the distant past or the distant future. Vi is pretty much exclusively living in the past. Jayce, Viktor and Singed are staring so far ahead that they can't see the present except as a nuisance tugging at their ankles, though Viktor and Jayce are SAD that the current day isn't more on their agenda. Heimerdinger lives every day a century or more in the past. Sevika and Silco have a slight gaze to the present, but only insofar as it informs the future, the struggle and the freedom that must result. Only Ekko is all about today being a day more important than yesterday or tomorrow can really ever be... and now Jinx has gotten there, as well.
I'm pleased to see you caught the parallel between Vander giving up the fight to protect his adopted daughter (which Silco resented him for), and Silco giving up his chance to get what he had worked for to protect his adopted daughter... though it has to be said, Silco gave up ONE CHANCE. There's little indication that he was about to give up the struggle. He was, though, going to choose war over giving her up.
Not liking Ambessa (Mel's mom) is fair, and all, but she is also the only person mostly associated with Piltover who is wise, insightful and correct in her assertions. You just don't notice it much, because she is confident to the point of arrogance, brutal, self-serving, indulgent and kind of shallow. Given the council are at best venal, corrupt, cowardly and self-serving, and Heimerdinger is by and large the worst of them, Ambessa is the only one who speaks for taking the threat seriously before the option to do so is taken away... nevermind that her proposed SOLUTIONS start and end with going to war over the differences. And at least, when Ambessa says she would prefer the war to go ahead, she doesn't make a secret of WHY.
A thought on love. This show has shown us a lot of love and a lot of good intentions, and while people argue over who loved whom - my thought on that is, Vi loves the sister she remembers, Silco loves the daughter he has, neither of them are entirely good or entirely bad for Jinx, and they're all very fallible and human about it all - the show isn't about who loves whom or why or how. The central theme, every episode, is how love and good intentions ARE NOT ENOUGH. I don't think it's very controversial to say that Jinx would have been far worse off had she NOT been taken in by Silco at the end of episode 3; she's deeply traumatised, alone, with no home, no resources, and no people to take care of her. She comes out the other side of the seven(?) year skip relatively healthy, and I'd say probably saner than she is if she had been alone and homeless through that time - if she had survived it.
When Vi comes in and barely has a chance to MEET with her sister before they BOTH try to revive what they were to each other seven(?) years ago, they're both doomed to failure, because neither realises who or what they were to the other. Vi thinks she was the cool big sister, loving and taking care of her goofy little sister, teaching her to be strong and never give up and be proud of what makes her different, in a tough, but wondrous childhood paradise. Powder, meanwhile, saw herself as a soldier, a follower, but ultimately a failure, and she was terrified of that every moment. She was trying to support the team by using her bombs to kill everyone who got in their way, and when Vi thought she was encouraging her sister to believe in herself, Powder thought she was encouraging her to keep trying to solve her problems with violence on a grand scale. After all, did her big sister, who is also essentially her parent, not say, when she was sad that she failed to make mincemeat out of a goon with her nail bomb, that she'd get it to work eventually? The love was always there, and as of this moment, nothing good came of it.
Interestingly, also it seems pretty clear to me that Vi still hasn't realised what Jinx fully appreciates - that their childhood selves are now in the past, and that any relationship they will have now will have to be built now, and that neither can be something they're not just to please the other. I happen to think that Jinx firing upon the council is the most reasonable response to their governance the council has ever received, and that it is richly deserved, though it remains tragic.
And that's the big theme of Arcane, really, I think: inevitability. Everyone is who they are, and they pretty much all stay true to their natures - even Jayce, whose nature may SLIGHTLY have graduated from "paper kite" at the very end - and because they follow their consciences and convictions, they come into conflict with one another, and much sadness, loss and pain results. It's the best tragedy I've ever experienced.
"Love and good intentions are not enough". You have it !
Your analysis is really good on all points. I totally agree about what you say about Silvo/Jinx/Vi. The question is not who loves more, or worse. Who loves at all. Who's the bad guy, the good guy. It's all about characters, decisions, context. People are what they are because everyone makes their choices, according to their values, their environment, their education, past and their emotions at the time (The analysis of everyone's perception of time is really very interesting.)
I love Arcane because of that. The right to have given access to the choice for the characters. To have offered them a humanity in all that they are or do.
You're right, it's a tragedy where everything seems inevitable. And I really wonder what the next season has in store for us.
Why it looks like montanta hates the fact that Silco does love Jinx? The whole conversation on Vander’s statue is literally saying how Silco understands why Vander didn’t want to fight anymore because of his children. “Oh it all makes sense now brother” like hello????
Probably because the scene subverts expectations so its easy to miss. And generally its hard to seperate someone from being a bad guy to having every bad guy quality.
Because Silco is still an evil POS. It would be easier if he betrayed her at the end so we could just hate everything about him, and powder could move on. What actually happens is more interesting, but that doesn't mean she has to have an immediate positive reaction to it. The fact that it creates conflicting emotions is what makes it good.
Cuz so many people use that as an excuse for his truly horrific actions as a father. “Oh he loves her” Ok and? With Montana’s background in psychology, she probably has a very good understanding of how FUCKED Silco’s relationship to Jinx is and how FUCKED Silco’s love for her is, even if it’s real. Im getting the vibe that Montana is thinking “Silco loves Jinx? Well his love is fucking toxic so that’s still not good”
@@crystalwang1532 I have a background in Psych and I don't hate Silco. He's not a good person but there is some level of expecting the worst in him just because he's an antagonist and not judging him without bias. Without bias his love for Jinx is not irrelevant because he does show good parenting skills, but they're both extremely damaged people who severely need care that neither of them have access too if it even exists in their world.
I think the tipping point of this episode that I just love so much, and haven't unseen since I saw it is when Silco dies and Vi looks up, says "Powder, it's okay". It shows how the two of them are simply living life through two different lenses. Decent people, sure, but different people now. Jinx doesn't consider herself "Powder", and despite the rough edges, this guy was for all intents and purposes- her father, and she just killed him to save Vi. And Vi wanted Silco dead for a long while now, and especially this episode. It wasn't happenstance. The thing she (Vi) wants, breaks Jinx's heart. And when it happens Vi clearly doesn't understand what Jinx is going through in that moment.
It feels very relatable to real life, over time, how people change. You can remain good, and decent, and still see life through different perspectives and grow and change and, frankly, grow apart from friends or family. This example was stretched over the span of 9 episodes with ups and downs and was done with subtlety and nuance and I loved it.
The other thing I like about Jinx's mental state is that she's insane but not irrational. She's able to plan and manipulate people, her intelligence isn't totally chaotic. Everything she does makes sense when you see the world through her point of view.
Sevika was the most loyal to the ideal of Zaun than anyone other than Silco. She turned on Vander because he abandoned the cause, she kills Finn because he didnt care about Zaun only gaining Silco's power. She is the Kingmaker of Zaun.
The part where Jinx ran up to Silko after shooting him;
"No... no-no-no! I-I'm sorry I'm sorry!!
- truly heart breaking. Amazing voice-acting
31:18 A perfect end, to a perfect series. There does not NEED to be a resolution. The mind races, it fills the empty spaces. Of the potential consequences of all events leading to this EPIC climax. This... my friends. Is a masterpiece.
Very apt that Jinx put Cait in her Enforcer’s uniform. A way of saying, “hey, remember, we hate these guys?” And that also contributed to her line of “you changed too.” Yikes.
Alright so this is going to be a long one because I have so much to say about the family dinner scene so I apologize in advance. I'll try to keep it as brief as I can though.
It’s such a master class of everything coming together. The story, the music, the tension, the animation. Everything about that scene just adds that extra layer and it’s astounding.
Any scene that makes me think even for a split second, even with meta knowledge on my side, that Cait’s head was on the platter deserves an award in all honesty. There was a cupcake, however… that’s some dark humor there, Jinx.
The way this show plays with Powder vs Jinx is so good (even if people take it far too literally sometimes). Jinx presents the option of Powder and Jinx to Vi. Says that she’ll be Powder again, if Vi can kill Cait.
But it’s a false choice, and I think even Vi knows it. Powder’s chair is pushed into the table, surrounded by clutter. Jinx’s chair is pulled out and ready to be sat in at any time. It’s inevitable how it’s all going to end, that Jinx is going to sit in that chair no matter what at the end of all this.
And it’s heartbreaking because we know Jinx is a victim. She’s been through so much, but she’s not the only victim in this scene. Vi loves her sister so much, still thinks there’s maybe some sort of hope. But no matter how much she loves her sister, she can’t enable her homicidal tendencies. She can’t defend her actions anymore. Silco has become Jinx’s enabler.
When they were kids, Vi would’ve let Powder get away with murder (figuratively). But she can’t anymore.
There’s also just the idea of how their past loved ones affect them in the present. For better or worse, Vi uses the people she loved as a means of pushing herself forward. It’s what kept her sane in Stillwater, it’s what pushed her beyond her limits in the fight between her and Sevika. It’s why she can’t see that it’s not the same for Jinx. Jinx sees them all as demons, monsters that torment her.
And it’s this disconnect that is ultimately their undoing.
And that’s a wrap for season 1. I estimate the earliest we’ll get season 2 is Fall of 2023. They were working on season 2 right after season 1 production wrapped, plus they have most of the assets now. Man I’m excited.
Honestly? I think Vi would have let Powder get away with murder *literally,* not just figuratively. If Powder killed someone Vi would 100% cover for her.
@@kenjutsukata1o1 and that’s one of VI’s faults as a kid. She was unable to see the domino affect of her actions. If Powder had killed and enforcer for shits and giggles, Vi would have had no problem with that. But grown up Vi understands what that would do to relations between Zaun and Piltover.
If it makes you feel any better, the peace never would have happened anyway. Jayce had them agree to his peace , which would have never actually gone through. The entire deal was dependent on Silco giving up Jinx, that was the only non-negotiable term for Jayce. So they're agreeing to peace based on a proposal that wouldn't actually go through.
Silco 100% loved Jinx for who she was and as a father. Think about everything she did to him. If it was any one else he would have killed them. He also shared so much with her, more than he shared with anyone else. He taught her lessons, morals, even if not always great ones, but some good ones too. But he's also a criminal overlord, and someone with deep psychological problems himself. But he does love her in his heart of hearts. And that's shown in his last moments. He gains nothing as he's dying from lying to her, but he says things that any good father would to their daughter who is in pain or struggling... So you know he's telling the truth. :(
Calling Silco a good father is the fattest lie I’ve ever heard. He loved Jinx and cared for her but the way he loves is so toxic. If he truly were a good father, he wouldn’t have said “ur perfect” when she just had a psychotic break 3 seconds ago and needs professional help. That just push Jinx further into refusing anything that could change the way she is. Which is not good when Jinx is mentally unstable, deeply traumatized, and unable to deal with her issues.
He loved her only to the extend that his own mental issues and trauma allowed him to. He let his own issues affect Jinx’s wellbeing, encouraging her to “kill” Powder instead of healing from her trauma by acknowledging what it’s done.
He loved powder, but he wasn’t a good dad. Just like existing in her life and loving her doesn’t make him a good dad. The bar for a good dad is literally in hell and he still doesn’t make it
@@crystalwang1532 fine if I can’t have my self indulgent father-daughter relationship, then Crystal can’t have her Treadmill workout playlist *shoots Taylor Swift*
Best animated series ever made.
The way they manage to portrait every single character is insane, there's no good guy, there's no bad guy, everyone is both good and bad depending on the perspective. And the depth of each character..... When you manage to make the public empathize with the one guy who's supposed to be the enemy.....you win. For the first time in my life I found myself sheding a tier for the death of a villain.
The quality is ABSURD under every aspect: audio, video, design, colors, music, characters, dialogues, voice acting, action, fight scenes, timing, circularity of some events.... there's so many things that would deserve to be mentioned....
No wonder this show broke the internet, on Rotten Tomatoes it still has a 100%/96% rating, and I haven't heard of a single person saying 1 bad thing about it, which in the Social Media Era is unheard of. Easiest 10/10 of my life.
Agreed.
Besides the 'villain' in Silco, we also have Jinx ... and I have never seen a character quite like her in any form of media. I'm not referring to her specific personality/characteristics or story-line, I mean simply looking at her character as a hero or villain.
If you've seen Schnee's video on the subject, you'll realize it's extremely unique.
She's a character who could be defined as both a hero or villain, with a fully formed arc for each ... and the events that define her as either can be both considered heroic or villainous, depending on one's perspective. And they are the same exact events. If someone told me beforehand such a character existed, I'd wonder how it'd even be possible. But they pulled it off.
Awesome reaction!
I absolutely agree with Kenny that there are no villains in this show and that it's just everybody finding themselves at odds with one another. Or maybe more accurately, everybody is a villain to somebody else (except maybe Caitlyn who is just a pure, kind soul). Even comparing Silco and the Council - we get clear vibes about how warped Silco is, but the Council arguably is much much worse which we discover over the course of the show. In a way, Silco is the monster the Council created. At the same time like Kenny said, maybe Silco would become more and more like Vander if he lived on.
Taking a super wide view of all the themes, the whole show is about the tension between difference and alignment. You never know if it's oil and water or blood and water. Honestly I could write several essays about this from the use of colour (blue and purple, hextech and shimmer) to the way Silco's and the Council's politics played out (Silco... kind of found an actual workable solution that will make Zaun better, even if it was kind of accidental and he most likely would have threw it away for Jinx). And of course, to how all these relationships come to mirror one another, where the most distant, antagonistic people come to find something in common, and those who share the deepest bonds are torn apart by themselves.
no cuz Caitlyn didn’t even do anything except exist and try her best to be a good person to everyone she meets 😭😭😭
I love watching reactors try to figure out the ending. It shows the council over, and over, and over, and over, and literally draws a line with the rocket to the council building. "Where is it going?" "I have no idea what's going on."
As an Arcan fan, I relate so bad, but I was cackling so much with your reaction at that ending cliffhanger, just like a weird "See?!??!?!?!?! It's INSANE" XD
"Here's to the new us." - Jinx
Here is another example of circular storytelling and its beauty!
At the start of a show Vendor abandons his dream (rebellion against piltover) to protect Vi and Powder, his daughters. Silco couldn't accept this as he didn't understand Vander and his love for family. He thought the cause was above that. He thought HE could achieve his dream no matter what.
At the end of the show Silco abandons his dream to protect Jinx, his daughter. His dream was to make peace on the basis of fear for shimmer. It didn't work, but Jace gave him another chance to make peace on a condition of Silco giving away Jinx. But now he understands Vandor, now he feel the same father love for Jinx (Hence the scene near the statue). So he abandons his dream by telling Jinx that he would never give her away, which triggers her to start a war (which he didn't want to happend. He was working to protect his people, even if his means were quastionable)
Would love to watch your reaction to "Bridging the Rift". It's the "how Arcane was made" series and why it took 6 years.
This would be amazing .. heh :)
Fun fact: Jinx's gatling gun is named Pow-Pow, after her childhood name.
The rocket's name was canon years before Arcane revealed that her name used to be Powder.
No... rocket luncher name is fishbone... Gatling gun is the name of pow pow.. you can see that in her skill in league 🥰🥰🥰
@@keyronkathrynekathrynkeyron Oh you're right mb
@@azeTrom17 hehe i react because she is my main in game 🥰🥰🥰🥰
Jinx's minigun is Pow-Pow, which Vi used as a nickname for Powder; her rocket launcher is Fishbones, which seems like a pretty direct tie to Silco. These names have been canon long before the show existed, but the fact that they tied them into the Arcane story just provides an extra layer of depth.
Just had a realization. When Jayce said "you won't make it on your own", he was right. Vi was already saved by Caitlyn twice at that point, and she would have lost to Sevika for sure without the gauntlets. In fact, it appears that the only reason she won was because of the magic shield built into the gauntlets that she didn't even know existed. Gauntlets made by Jayce. In fact, the only thing she did completely on her own was fail the tea party test. So... good job, Vi 😛
Yeah I have been saying that Vi is walking behind everyone else, Jinx has gained the understanding of making weapons and reversed engineered hex-tech, Caitlyn has shown her skills in chasing leads, Echo has build his own group and also has gained a lot of knowledge in engineering, Jayce has learned politics (though not much) and knows hex-tech, Mel has learned to stand-up for herself and make decisions which might not make others (her family/the council) happy and knows politics. Which is funny because the first 3 episodes she was the "leader" of the group. That said it does make sense, Vi was in prison for all those years and has probably not had a lot of opportunities to pick up new skills there. So I hope in season 2 she will somehow "catch up" with the rest. And yes, Vi is a good fighter, but they all are. I'm even pretty sure Mel is a good fighter, considering where she grew up. But I'll probably get a lot of hate for this comment from Vi lovers.
Edit: What I'm trying to point out is that Vi does not have a lot of skills going for her outside of combat compared to the rest of the main characters. The only one might be her "knowing" the undercity, which I'm pretty sure Echo and Jinx also have. And Jayce, Mel and Caitlyn know the uppercity in return. Mel also knows Noxus.
@@ruud9761 Yup, seven or so years in prison definitely set her back quite a bit. The only things she developed in prison is her ability to brawl and her hatred of Silco. Poor girl has a lot of catch-up to do. Very curious to see what development she goes through in season 2.
I heard the hype surrounding Arcane soon after it was released, and decided to watch it on a whim without knowing anything about the story or characters. Needless to say, I was blown away.
I speak no hyperbole when I say that Arcane: League of Legends is the best western animated series I have seen since Star Wars: The Clone Wars.
It really wasn't the story that captivated me as much as it was the characters. I was sucked in by all the separate stories this show told all at once and kept perfectly balanced. Standouts for me in particular were Powder, Silco, Ekko, Violet, Jayce, and my personal favourite character, Vander.
And the animation is obviously the best I've ever seen in television, even WITHOUT the Dynasties and Dystopia sequence.
I can't wait for Season Two. For now, I am giving Arcane: League of Legends a 9/10.
Yup, love Vander
Bro you really compared arcane to TCW ? I mean TCW is great but it is really not at the same level of arcane bro
9/10? Do you not give 10s, or are your standards ridiculously high? If it's the latter, what *would* you give a 10/10?
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@@galaxystudios370 The good parts, or all of it? Because while I also would give it a 10/10, I'm a bit more liberal with that rating. If you include some of the lower quality episodes *cough*thegreatdivide*cough* I'd give it a 9/10. But because I felt the show was good enough to make the low points easier to overlook, 10/10.
Or are you talking about the James Cameron movie? Because if you are, that's a whole new can of worms XD
when Vi said - 'remember who you are!' and began to name the names that the Jinx should remember - she did not know that she had an brain injury. Jinx at that moment fell to her knees and very quietly asked her to 'stop' because she was in pain, but her sister did not see this. I think that's why Silko grabbed the gun - he didn't want to kill Vi, he wanted her to stop hurting Jinx.
watch this moment again.
As someone watching it who had no knowledge of LoL and thought there would only be one season, I thought the final episode was a perfect tragic ending, so it's always funny to see how people react differently when they expect there to be more. Everyone else was trapped in cliffhanger hell while I was like 'damn what a good show'.
It is a perfect ending for the Powder->Jinx evolution arc. What happens next is for the next story.
Yeah, I don’t see it as a cliffhanger. The main question of the show: Is Jinx redeemable? is fully answered with a tragic No. It’s just a bit aggravating that we don’t get to see the full extent of the collateral damage of that No.
Silco having to give up jinx is a parallel to Vander having to give up his kids to the topsiders
You should watch Georgia Dow’s (she’s a Therapist who does videos on characters from different medias) video on Jinx and Silco’s relationship. She probably had the best take on what it really was.
15:50 They're no cyborgs. They're just humans on Shimmer. Lots of Shimmer in gaseous state.
One pure, perfect, fantastic season of storytelling. Arcane is a masterpiece.
Also, it's not on your list of three, but I really want to see you guys react to "The Legend of Vox Machina".
Montana would have a field day with Percy
@@cobaltsable1800 And Sclanlan...and Pike...and Keyleth...and Vex...hell, they've all got issues.
@@FulcanMal Especially if the show lasts for a while. The codependency between the twins leads to such a great moment
Would love to see them watch vox machina
Well... u maybe dont know but in game Vi's passive ability is get a shield against true damage - that means physical and magic damage - some seconds when she hits other character (champion or big monster) with her abilities. The fact that series take that to more real concept, I mean, gauntlets generate a shield, was beauty to see... how characters abilities are reflected in Arcane with their actions, movements, etc.
EDIT: Also in game, Jinx's passive is gain important attack and movement speed some seconds every time kills an enemy, just like shimmer "activation". Additionaly, when she hits an enemy gains some attack speed, like her crazyness
EDIT2: Beard on Singed's "office" was... Vander. Actually was second time he showed up, first time was when Viktor visit. We players think Vander will become Warwick (a fury quimical werewolf) based on so many phrases and references that he and two more champions have in game, especially interactions with Vi, Jinx and Ekko.
While I understand most people's first reaction to the cliffhanger at the end, it is kind of perfect. If they had shown even part of the destruction, it would have just opened up way more questions and would also undermine the absolution in the final moment and the tragedy of the decision for peace being destroyed.
Loved the reactions!
The final scene makes me cry every time...
The song ("What could've been") is probably the most to blame
The visuals and the song together gave me goosebumps and makes me bawl my eyes out every time
Wait i just realized something. In the show vi says powders good with her gadgets which are technology. And vi gift is fighting which is her physical strength. Vi is pink and jinx is blue. When vi gets hextech golves which are technology jinx gets shemer which inhances you're physical skills. Hextech is blue shemer is pink. A little bit of powder exist in vi and little bit of vi exists in power. Like yin and yang. Also vi wearing the hextech can remind vi how powder used to be and shemer can mean powder finally became strong like her hero.
Super excited for your Owl House Ep. 1 reaction! Also, super sad Arcane season 1 is done, but loved the journey!!
Bridging the Rift/making of series is great! Also there are a ton of fans that break down the scenes either via details of animation, story telling plotline details, cinematography (it's an animation yet has some of the coolest cinematography) or psychological breakdowns.
ALSO I would love reactions to league of legends cinematics and music videos if that's something on the mind
Things to consider looking toward season 2 from someone who love LoL lore:
But first I'd highly recommend watching some of the cinematics like Warrior and Awaken in particular. As well as the video for Enemy, it is like Jinx/Vi/Ekko vignette and as you like the song anyway. You could easily do all three in a single watch episode. But back to the speculation:
Finn: "There's bigger fish than Silco"; Personally I think that's Ambessa (Mel's mom). I think she's been messing with Piltover/Under City under the table. Ambessa wants Hextech weapons and Jinx has Hextech weapons and will need someplace to go in the story.
There are a couple candidates for the man Mel's brother crossed that would be amazing pieces to bring into season 2. Both in terms of just awesome characters in their own right but in expanding the world beyond Piltover and Zaun. The most likely candidate is Swain, he is the most powerful man in Noxus in the lore, but it could also be one of his under lords like Draven. I personally hope it is because that would mean we might see Riven one of my favorite characters from the lore. However, the princes Ambessa killed in Mel's flashback looked Ionian and that would bring a whole different cast of potential 'powerful man' candidates.
I think Mel's golden decoration she's never without as if its a part of her body is some sort of protection, shield/armor of some sort. It is also something her mother or family mages might give her for protection away from the family.
When Jayce was first before the Council notice that the room closed off with heavy covers before the Council vote, could those play a role? There isn't a lot in Arcane that's shown for no reason, the series is filled with Chekhov's guns. For example, in Progress day we're shown mechanical butterflies and later shown Jinx working on them with them glowing like firelights - turns out she was making them into bombs.
The ending scene with the Doctor (a.k.a. Singed) has two champions from the game that may become characters: the wolfman hanging from the hooks is Warwick and many people are speculating he's a transformed Vander. Warwick will for sure be in season 2 as in the teaser the howl at the end is Warwick's from the game. The second is the locket with the picture of his daughter, alluded to when he tells Silco 'I once had a daughter too', looks a lot like Orianna from the game. Plus, while not seemless both Champion's lore could pretty easily be slightly altered and work fine, like what they've done with other Champions.
Spoilers below:
Jayce and Viktor will live because they are Champions in the game. Viktor's story line will involve what in the lore is 'The Great Evolution'. It is a story of good intentions becoming evil means in the lore and a solid basis for a season 2 story line that is foreshadowed.
I love watching reactions to Arcane. Specially to this last episode. And that CLIFHANGER. As soon as the credits start rolling and the looks on everyone's face... Priceless. I can't help but laugh, because I remember when I made that same face.
Quick note on the Sevika vs Vi:
Sevika has been upgrading her arm during the series. Alot of times when it pans to her she was caught tweaking on it.
I think the reason, why she told everybody to go out for a 1v1 has to be partially due to her wanting to try out her new upgraded version herself.
Her upgrades is also the reason why the fight was this close.
Additonal Info:
Vi's Atlas Gauntles were made to mine in the fissures. The reason she managed to stop that attack from the top at the end was because they have a built in function to protect the wearer from falling rocks.
Sevika is super underrated I absolutely love her
I also love her tbh, a lot of people don't seem to like her but she's also a fantastic character. She has her own motivations, she's utterly loyal to them but once the situation changes she will also change her loyalties, she's a fantastic fighter and is heavily implied to also be a good manager/second-in-command, even if she seems to intentionally avoid being the one in charge. She's smart, strong, and I'm willing to bet she's going to be more important next season than we might think. @@jittercritter
All of Arcane Posted to Patreon now! Also, OWL HOUSE, DRAGON PRINCE, and YOUNG JUSTICE episode 1!
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its good to watch the Arcane:bridging the rift
you two should do a reaction series to all the League champs, their moves and their skins (the first video for example being all champs starting with A and B). at the end of a video you two could maybe even do a prediction/wish list of the reacted to champs that you think/wish would show up in season two
Powder is dead. Vi wanted Powder, but refused to understand even at the end that this was not Powder. That is why she triggers the trauma. The things that are important to Vi and were important to Powder are horrifying to Jinx. The only person who ever gave Jinx the understanding and limitless love that she craved was her real father figure--Silco.
Powder isn’t dead. Jinx and Powder are one in the same. They are both that traumatized little girl lashing out at the world. They just express it differently. Powder’s trauma and guilt affects everything that Jinx does. Without Powder, there is no Jinx
I'm so tired of these "Silco was a good dad" posts. Silco was an abusive piece of sh*t who murdered Vi and Powder's REAL father figure, Vander, and caused the events which lead to the deaths of Mylo and Claggor, not to mention the separation of Vi and Jinx. He's a ruthless drug lord who spent years poisoning the undercity and hunting down Ekko and his friends. He gaslit Powder and enabled her self-destructive tendencies and PTSD to keep her with him. The paternal love he felt for her may have stemmed from a genuine source, but he also projected all his issues with Vander onto her and tried to shape her to be like him. He tried to kill Vi to keep her as his possession. There's a line between parental love and manipulative possessiveness and Silco crossed it a long time ago.
None of that take away how good (in the sense of complex and well-built) his character is. He does have some sympathetic traits, like his dream of an independent Zaun, and his attachment to Powder, twisted as it is, can be seen as authentic. But let's not romanticize his influence on her.
Woot! Thank you so much for the awesome reaction to this series! All three of the options on deck are awesome, but Owl House is my vote.
I have been waiting for this moment.
I'm so glad you guys watched this show! You have thoughtful commentary and this show deserves that level of disussion.
Here's to Silco, the best character in a show with only good characters.
DRAGON PRINCE is like the sucessor of avatar, it's amazing and u wont regret watching it for shure
Im rewatching these since the teaser for season 2 came out. But i believed since the beginning that Silco loved Jinx. Throughout the show you see so many glimpses of it. He even has her home made items in his office its so cute. Like a father would. Its a twisted relationship with revenge at the forefront. But he loved her.
im so glad you enjoyed this masterpiece of a show as much as I did! its really so great and its been such a good time watching it again with you two
The cliffhanger this leaves us on - I can’t wait for season 2
First watch through I thought that it was rather sweet that Jinx said that she is only alive because of Vi.
Later watchthroughs, I realized that Jinx doesn't necessarily see that as a good thing.
Vi would definitely assume that's a good thing, but I think Jinx definitely sees it as having prolonged her tired, psychologically tormented existence. I think before the bridge, Jinx was still hopeful that she could get something she'd enjoy out of life, even if it was just Silco's approval. But she very clearly gave up on the bridge, probably expecting to die, and then to be revived with Shimmer tearing at her traumatized brain and worsening her psychological issues made her see life as much more torturous. I don't believe she cares about her life, not that she did before, but she does blame Vi for her still being here.
Silco’s “ we will show them all “ is the best line of the show for me
I'm so glad you guys reacted to this series. Cant wait for season 2! :)
I know the message is obvious, but something I have never seen someone pick up on.
In the Baptism scene, Silco says to Jinx, "Jinx is perfect". Implying that she is Powder, but it's good for her to embrace Jinx.
Silcos last words are, "You're perfect". Because he knows that she is now entirely Jinx.
I can see this perspective, but I took the final line to mean that he no longer cared if she was Jinx or Powder, she was perfect regardless. Accepting her with all her issues, which is exactly what Vi couldn't do (notably, this is for very good reasons like "she has no regard for life" but Jinx doesn't see this as an issue because she has no regard for life).
Vi wanted her to be Powder, and Silco wanted her to be Jinx; but when things came to a head and Powder shot Silco to save her sister, he only cared about whether his daughter would blame herself for it, and making sure she knew he would never have betrayed her, without trying to make her be what he wanted.
Vi celebrated her killing the person who is, to Jinx, the *second* adoptive father she's now killed. Silco forgave her to protect her self-worth, calling her perfect when her whole life she would have been called a jinx for messing up this badly, and in return, she finally does become the perfect Jinx. Not because he told her to, but because he didn't, even in his last moments.
awesome ending! im tied for dragon prince and owl house!
WE'VE BEEN WAITING AGES ALREADY. I do appreciate your now on the waiting ride with us though :D
I simply cannot wait for season two, this show is SO GOODDD. Also I love your arcane avatars in the intro ❤❤❤
Also i vote owl house as the next season, that is also so incredibly good!
Regardless wither you decide to post your reaction to bridging the rift (Arcane making...) or not, it is a really good watch. I would highly recommend that you watch it. I would definitely watch the reaction if it drops here.
I'll be around for Death Note too if you guys end up watching it, I saw it was doing well on the pole.
Fun fact..vi telling jinx to remember her friends..wasn't a bright idea that shi only works in movies ..you're asking her to forcefully dig up trauma ..slico knew this thats why he went for the guy..
Jinx would've totally lost it in that scene
Thanks for your reaction!
Also, wanted to add one interaction that I didn’t see on the first watch: I don’t believe Jinx have no respect to every human life. I believe that she doesn’t have regards to Enforcers because since ep.1 opening she only sees them as monsters/de-humanized. That’s why she loves killing them (cause Vi was nowhere around anymore to chase them away). And (as in ep. 7 that triggered shooting) she sees Caytlin as a monster=enforcer. So, she asked VI (like in the old days) to “make her go away” as Vi did with other monsters
It was really cool to share this show with u! know lets wait the season 2 xD
Dragon Prince is a must Toph would be disappointed otherwise
Huh?
@@CrimsonCharan Sokka is in it… and Toph likes Sokka… and Toph voices the channels intro
@@deathking1019 Since when did toph like sokka?
@@CrimsonCharan when she kissed suki thinking it was sokka
@@CrimsonCharan did you even watch avatar?
I understand not believe Silco truly loved Jinx because of how much of a terrible and manipulative father he was, but in his mind he was trying to do the best for her. Yeah he’s terrible, but he believes he was helping her and truly loved her.
He helped her tho, being a bad guy is the way to go for staying alive in new undercity
@@erenbaydar4769 not really, they were pushed to that extreme by the negligence and over controlling politics of Piltover. Silco and Jayce demonstrates that if they cared from the start and gave up on their greed they could've reached a peaceful solution.
@@Karanthaneos Sort of....but would they have been pushed to the point of negotiating "peace" to such a degree that Jayce did if Silco didn't do what he did.
@@deranged_dragon9471 Also nobody in the rest of the Council would have even had the idea of giving independence cross their mind, let alone have considered it. Jayce was the catalyst. Without him, things would have festered and boiled over. Silco's goal was always a peaceful finale. He said to Vander that he knew he couldn't win a war with Piltover, that he just had to scare them. If he had them scared enough, he could use it to leverage independence. You even saw it when he went to negotiations with Jayce. He was smug and triumphant, thinking he'd finally scared topside sufficiently to come out on top. Then he got thrown off when Jayce revealed that he was doing it out of fear *for* Zaun and not fear *of* Zaun.
@@kenjutsukata1o1 He wasn't thrown off. It was still fear and he still used that to get the terms he wanted out of Jayce (for the most part).
A few things about this which I love!
"The boy didn't even haggle" Jayce showing his self even with all the stress and corruption he's experienced.
Everytime Vi fights and someone sees it, they always say, "She blocks with her face" the one time she actually blocks with her face, it helps her clutch out a win which is beautiful!
Also, Jinx's rocket launcher is a dangerous mix of chemtech and hex tech so that rocket could keep going for a long while...
Great series guys. Obv we all love arcane, but your reaction series was a treat to watch as well!
Owl house must be next!
Episode 3: Vi leaves Powder.
Episode 6: Vi leaves Jinx (unwillingly)
Episode 7: Vi leaves Jinx (for Caitlyn)
Episode 9: Jinx goes: "Screw it, this time I'll tie you to a chair until we talk things through properly!"
the playable characters in the game that appear in the serie are Vi, Jinx, Caitlyn, Jayce, Victor, Heimerdinger, Ekko, Singed (the guys who "healed" jinx) and (according to a fan theory) maybe Vander
26:50 Of course, I assume that's how she gets to sneak up on people all around the city so efficiently.