*• LESBIAN REACTS - ARCANE - 1x09 “THE MONSTER YOU CREATED” •***SO MANY TEARS**
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Imagine being in so much tension that you dont notice jinx calling Cait "Vi's girlfriend"
Oh...
RIGHT 🥹👌😂😢
Cringe
@@wooshbait36 it's not cringe bro 😑
@@gabazakaukau385 Wow she said it's her girlfriend which means they are gay? Wow so cool bro, I like straight people, but gay people? wow they are so cool. Did you notice, did you? she called her her girlfriend wow, let's post more comments about this
I am a grown-ass man about to arrange my entire Monday schedule around being able to watch the nice gay lady react to a cartoon.
Same here, jimbo
Man you’re great with your words 😂
🥺 The nice gay lady appreciates your effort!
Bro tomorrow's my work from home day, I am READY
You're not the only one Jim!
So that's what Jinx thinks of Caitlyn. "Make her go away. Please?" Caitlyn is the monster Vi created, but she's too scary, so Jinx is asking big sister to scare it away. It's so goddamn powerful and heartbreaking.
“I didn’t want her to start crying and wake my parents up, so I pretended to chase my own monsters away.” 😭
wait yeah i just realized... shes saying it like how she used to make powders monsters go away
oh .. :[
Oh god...
Sad Jinx sees Cat as a monster..
The fact that Jinx literally jinxs everything she does and everyone around her and the way they managed to make us feel for her instead of getting annoyed is amazing
Her last act as Powder was to kill Silco, her first act as Jinx was to avenge him.
Yep. The part of her that was still Powder heard him cock the hammer on the gun, and she reacted, shooting him to save Vi.
@AstralMuffin105 I think it triggered her for fight or flight, she was n an episode and her responses to gunfire is to shoot where it comes from before they get her. But it's nice to read other interpretations
Oh god. What. a. phrase.
@@dymundprynsess it was confirmed by a writer that she instinctually protected vi by shooting silco
@dokya9u0 awesome. But watching it, that wat I thought. Hence, me saying I think. I don't really like reading hearing wat the writers say about a scene, it's fun to make up ur own.
One of the things I liked the most about Arcane is how hard the female cast carries the show. We have all these women, all different, all of them showing strength and agency in their own ways, without falling into stereotypes, without having to make them shine by making the male cast stupid, but just because they are great characters, with motivations, fears, flaws, skills, and goals. I hope that other shows take note of this and let us enjoy richer and more representative characters.
That is what is so refreshing about this show. So many of these new shows who try to be woke and write these feminist female characters just don't get it. It is not about being male or female it is not about political correctness, sexism or equality it is just about writing good and realistic characters. Their gender, race and sexuality doesn't matter at all we can have empathy to all of them because their motives and actions are so believable. It is amazing how well they executed this.
@@jonesjeremiah I mean...representation *does* matter. The problem is token representation, where characters are added to tick off boxes on some kind of "woke checklist" to create the illusion of representation, rather than just creating a diverse cast of rich characters from the outset. Arcane is perfect because its cast of characters is both diverse *and* extremely well-developed. You can quibble that Ekko got a short shrift, but he still had some very prominent moments and has clearly been set up with a role and an arc for Season 2.
I wouldn’t say “carries” the show when Jayce heimerdinger Viktor Silco and vander are frequently talked about.
I love the world of Runeterra free from stigmatization and genderroles!
Actually, the conten creator schnee made an amazing video about gender in Arcane
ruclips.net/video/hML-FGHGEN4/видео.html
another amazing one is "How Arcane Writes MORAL AMBIGUITY"
ruclips.net/video/o_xfBmcWPKI/видео.html
@@markibash2689 let’s be real, vander is used for vi’s development and silco’s characterization, heimerdinger for jace’s. whenereas we’ve seen jinx, vi, cait and mel as individual characters with their own motivations, depth and personalities, aside from having a strong weight on the plot we have their bonds with the rest of the cast. the only male characters that fit those standards are jayce and silco ( viktor’s development is focused on his separation from piltover rather than holding a very present and active role that directly influences the plot, so he fits but in a different way in comparison to the ones mentioned )
When Jinx insinuated to Vi that she did something unspeakable to Caitlin I didn't know what to think. Vi was overwhelmed with such primal terror. It's really the first time we've ever seen Vi so frightened despite how tough and hardened she usually is.
I remembered absolutely panicking and feeling genuine fear and when I saw that Caitlyn was okay I took the biggest sigh of relief
That moment is perfect because what is under the lid is, in fact, a cupcake.
As a league player, I was pretty sure it wasn't her head under there (after a brief moment), but they genuinely had me worried it might be a hand or finger. I can't believe they sold Jinx's psychosis so well that they had me worried for Cait.
The thing is, right, that Jinx is testing her sister AND the audience here. The fact that Vi, of all people, even for a split second believed, that her sister was capable of such a thing. And the fact that it fools everyone who is not a LoL player and even some who are, is a testimant to how brilliant this scene truly is.
@@adowens0004 I'm not a LoL player but I did know that Caitlyn was a champion so I figured she'd have to stay alive, especially if the show takes place before the game time period, but I was also panicking lol
The dialogue that Silco says “Is There anything more undoing as a daughter?” Is One of the most important ones and also applies to all of the parents on This show.
•Ambressa exiled Mel just because she could not handle her daughter’s dissapointment in making the hard choices
•Markus stuck being Silco’s Lapdog for the stability of his daughter,even when he wanted to end with Silco far ago.
•Vander betrayed Silco in order to stop a War with Piltover and to take care of his adoptive sons and daughters.
•And Lastly Silco, he was definitely going to give up his dream and work of a lifetime of making Zaun an indepedent nation,just because he couldn’t abandon nor betray his daughter in order to do so.
That’s powerful Writing.
The Vander thing is your own assumption and I've talked at length in other places how I don't think that's what happened at all.
Vander was willing to give himself up for Vi and returned to violence to protect her. That was Vander's thing, not betraying Siloc cause it's implied Vander didn't do that for a noble reason, if you think about, it actually makes no sense that that was the reason.
@@LangkeeLongkee Betrayal is betrayal. Even if its for a good reason. Even if its because Vander made a deal with the enforcers and Silco wouldnt back down in his aggression towards Piltover so Vander had to backstab him to "ensure the peace" Regardless I still think Vanders daughters were his undoing, for better or for worse. He literally dies trying to save Vi jumping out a brick wall, when he could have easily stayed and killed Silco and probably lived.
@@lockekappa500 that's not what I'm talking about.
I'm saying Vander and Silco were in the same side and show blatantly shows that Vander wasn't a good person before adopting the kids, and he doesn't deny it. Vander knows what he did to Silco was wrong, he doesn't deny it. Silco became the way he is because if what Vander did to him. Also Vander found his humanity on that bridge with Vi and Powder. Deciding "hey I'm not going to fight anybody cause our people aren't worth dying for this" then immediately going "ANYWAY gonna murder my brother for not agreeing with me" quite literally makes no sense. He clearly became non-violent after adopting the kids, he never got violent when the whole bar wanted to fight, he didn't even fight back when he was sure he was gonna die, why would he have gone to try to violently murder Silco right after establishing the new moral that no death is worth is, Vander even asks if anyone was hurt on topside he doesn't even want topsiders to die anymore, him trying to kill Silco AFTER that revelation makes no sense.
Scorch (the Dr.) also mentioned having a daughter once.. i wonder how deep *that* rabbit hole gos.. o.o
Two things.
1) Silco wasn't going to give up on his dream of the nation of Zaun. He just wasn't going to give up Jinx for it.
2) Context seems to suggest Silco and Vander's break came long ago, before the revolution fight on the bridge. We don't know the specifics of their argument, but that bridge massacre happened after that.
"In pursuit of great, we failed to do good" is such a powerful line. Fits so well in so many places.
Viktor literally gets all the best lines
That could be the tagline for this show...
Whoever was in charge of animating the facial expressions on Jinx (especially as Silco dies through her final monologue) deserves all the awards. I've never seen despair, shock, hopelessness and resignation better represented on screen.
This show is like being stabbed with a thousand knives and still wanting more, its so painfully, beautifully written.
Normally I’d made a “kinky” joke, but I felt that so ima just agree. This show tore me apart but by bit and I couldn’t stop. Good comment ✨
To fill the void, play RDR2 for a immersive story telling experience if you're into video games. Same painful thousand knives feeling.
Silco: Monologue to Vander's statue about how he finally understands Vander and how he realizes he couldn't bare to part with Jinx, even if it costed him Zaun
Jinx: *misunderstands completely*
tbf a lot of viewers also misunderstood Silco there so I can’t really blame her 😂 and you know… the whole attachment/abandonment issues thing probably didn’t help either
@@beyondviolet Oh yeah, I definitely get that, it just makes for a funny comment lol
Jinx: "And I took that *personally*"
Story of Arcane
It’s so funny cuz she always does. I think it depicts her mental problems and delusion, she’s prone to believe something based on her emotions alone and then bend the reality according to her belief
Silco's last words to Jinx were everything she wanted to hear, but also the last nail in the coffin for Powder.
Worse. It was what she NEEDED to hear too.
Powder will never die. What makes Jinx an interesting character is the duality between sweet and psycho. You never know who will show up. And the psycho is more like Gollum. So Jinx is Batman, Joker and Gollum, all at once. She even has a batcave to make her gadgets. If Powder dies, Jinx becomes a flat one dimensional character.
@@josepablolunasanchez1283 nah bro Powder is long gone, she's just Jinx now especially in the game lore
@@jervisangelopitao7118 Jinx is an interesting character because of her duality between sweet and psycho. And you never know who you will find at a given time. Sweet is Powder. Unless they want to show Jinx as a flat character, Powder will always be there even if Jinx tries to deny her existence.
@@josepablolunasanchez1283 Eh, Jinx is Jinx. As with all people with mental illness, they aren't a mixture of "Bob before he was mentally ill" and "Bob after he was mentally ill".
I know you are just being flowery with it, but Jinx is Jinx, any behaviors attributed to Powder are still Jinx. She's not a different person. Just as we don't refer to the innocent and naive parts of our self as "Young Bob". Those parts are still us. As a child are personalities are affected and influence are adult life.
There was never two sides of her and Vi fails to understand that. Powder has died because that's what growing up is. Someone with mental illness doesn't have their true self or another self locked or hidden inside.
I find it kinda sad she didnt notice that when Jinx makes a joke about killing Cait, she said "I paid your GIRLFRIEND a visit this morning"
To be honest, I read this comment and forgot this was an arcane reaction. It makes sense now lol (I've seen arcane and i love it)
That moment where Jinx is holding the minigun over Cait and Vi tries to snap her out of it by bringing up their family is brilliant, and shows that Vi and Silco both know a different girl. Vi thinks that reminding Powder about their family will snap her out of it but only ends up, unknowingly, just causing a lot more pain to Jinx because that family is literally the thing that haunts her and is the core of her trauma and bringing it up makes her just go deeper and deeper into despair. Silco, on the other hand, knows that these are the ghosts that haunt Jinx and moves to protect her (notice that he only starts to struggle against his bindings and go for the gun to shut Vi up after Jinx is clearly in distress). Both Silco and Vi tried to help the girl they knew, Jinx and Powder respectively.
Also I doubt that Jinx could have ever gone back to Vi. Vi loved Powder not Jinx, their sisterly love is no longer unconditional (which don’t get me wrong, her sister became a homicidal Sociopath with a high body count) but I think Vi is semi afraid of Jinx.
Basically Vi couldn’t accept Jinx when she’s helping. Silco excepted Jinx when she killed him as to him she is the embodiment of Zaun wild and chaotic but beautiful underneath.
On the other Vi could except Powder, but Silco couldn’t because he views Powder as basically the opposite of how he views Zaun
Fun Facts to make you feel worse:
In L.o.L., Jinxs minigun is canonically named "Pow-Pow"
"You think *I'm* crazy? Yo should meet my sister." Was the only implication of her family for years until Arcane came out.
One of Jinx's unique in game traits is a sudden brief speed boost just like what she just used to beat Cait. It happens whenever she kills an opponent ot destroys something important.
Another character thats basicalky a fear-demon has specific taunts for who hes fighting againt.
To Jinx: **ALL YOUR FAULT!**
No-one knew at the time...
Having not played League, learning about the "ALL YOUR FAULT" line was so crazy. In both the biggest pivotal moments in this series she unknowingly ruins everything right after what would have otherwise been a good outcome. The Vander rescue mission and the vote for peace, she jinxed them both.
This is incorrect. She gains attack speed when she hits an enemy not totally kills an opponent! As long as she hits consecutively, she gains more attack speed!!
@@kristoffersevilla7815 i mean her passive, not pow-pow's attack speed stacking passive. Jink gets movement speed that quickly dacays, right?
@@cheshiretiger5698 oh you are right, I forgot her passive. And wow you're still active LOL
@@cheshiretiger5698 I'm revisiting my fav reactions to pass the time until S2, and what's funny about this exact comment getting necro'd by kristoff just now, two years after you wrote it, is I was *just* about to do the same thing so I could compliment your phrasing on "or destroys something important" as a great way of explaining her passive without having to get into a ton of complicated specifics about the game.
At least it kept me from having to start with "I know I'm replying to an old comment, but..." :D
I'm 30, I got my 60 year old dad to watch this show. Every time the song Enemy comes on the radio we jam out to it teary eyed. I'm not lying when I say this show has really been helping repair my relationship with my dad. I know it sounds dumb, but I think my dad is starting to accept that I'm gay.
He came to me on his own and said I'm the Vi to his Vander- and that I had a good heart no matter what.
If I said that doesn't make me ugly cry every time I think about it, I'd be a lying fool. I love how this show portrays such complex relationships so honestly
Ok I'm crying now
this is so wholesome
That's amazing! Now I wonder who your special cupcake is?? But that's a topc strangers don't really discuss. I'm glad this show has helped you and your dad
@@ShovelMarshy Each lovely person I've dated has been a special cupcake to me! (Not all were lovely of course)
Though my type is very much Caitlyn; nerdy, warm, and dedicated. If only we could all find a cupcake like that 🤣
Also thank you! I'm really happy my dad wants to be in my life again. Even if he doesn't understand my orientation
@@spectra-inventaThank you! I feel very lucky to be able to have my dad finally know me, even if he may not accept it fully yet.
It's still a huge win in my book!
I so wish I had media like this and owl house growing up
@@AromaticAromantic I'll find a Caitlyn one day (even if I'm not Vi) not that I've put in much effort since I'm a virtual student. I also don't know my type, but I'd like to find the Aphmau to my Aaron (MyStreet by Aphmau, it's a Minecraft roleplay series, and not *that* kinda roleplay. And although it's aimed at kids, or has some heavy hitting scenes (mainly death and violence, with an instance of abuse) which is good to fill the time
In a flash, just before Vi looks away from Jinx uncovering the plater in fear, there is a flash of Caitlyn laying in front of Vi on her bed, when they had their talk. Vi was so terrified the last image she'd see of Caitlyn would be that last image of beauty. she couldn't bear to look and see if it really was Caitlyn.
Holy shit i think u are absolutely right, at first i didnt understand why they would just pop a memory like that but now it makes sence
And it's not just photographic image - it shows idealized, beautified Cait.
Not how she looks IRL, but how Vi sees her through her eyes.
I think the scene where jinx brings the plate where you are being mislead to think its caithlyns head is also a psychological test from jinx to see how badly her own sister views her now. In this whole scene jinx tests all sides and sees nearly only the negative and gets more and more unstable as the scene progresses. Up until she makes a choice.
I’m pretty sure u missed that part where silco said “I wouldn’t have given you to them…. Not for anything, Don’t cry….. Your perfect…….” THAT PART MADE ME CRY 😭
She just didn’t care.
Real 🤡 sh*t she’s on.
I cried too btw 😭
She isn’t into Silco. Saddlyxd
Love him.
I prefer her ignoring it vs some people who go " OH THATS BULLSHIT. He's just manipulating her so she'll continue being his puppet. He's so evil!"
Like yes- he is evil....but he was also being genuine there. 😂
Oh and I like to think that Silco told her that in his dying breath, because he knew that she would feel guilty, and his face would just be another demon to haunt her. Just like when Vi was calling out to Jinx, telling her to remember everyone. Vi thought she was helping. Trying to bring up the good times they shared. But Silco could see what she was going through...those names were horrible triggers for her....
It breaks me heart when you slow that clip down and see just everything she does. And how tiny she gets just before she hears that gun tick.. God I feel so bad for powder 😭
@sophiaescareno8410 what? 💀
"DONT BE THAT SHOW" made me laugh. I do like how this show seem very aware of more unsavory media tropes so much that they play with audience expectations of them.
I read this comment before i watched the reaction, and i instantly knew what scene you were talking about😂😂
What show?
@@nguyentai464 Any show that dables into the Bury your gays trope, basically any show that kills without a reason supported by the plot and character development a queer character that can or not be in a relationship with other queer character
@@nightnaughty alternatively I suppose it can mean shows/stories that kill characters off camera and in gruesome ways simply for the shock value (not fridging I think since that involves killing off a side character, but basically that)
Mel: I support counselor Tallis' proposal for peace.
Jinx: Peace was never an option.
Peace is *no longer* an option
She was mad that jayce and viktor didn’t become a couple
What hurts about this is that Piltover is finally turning over a new leaf, but it's decision is to abandon Zaun to the likes of Silco.
Zaun and Piltover could have been equal partners in something great. But Piltover instead broke the undercity and forced its citizens to become dependent on them, while they slowly suffocated.
It's a lamentation of Zaun as Jinx as its manifestation blows up the peace talks, but it still lies the blame at Piltover's feet. It's like a mirror to 'Friend Across the River'. Rather than asking for a pittance and begging for dignity, Zaun cries out through this song that it will no longer accept the hurt and both laments and rejoices in how Piltover finally has to suffer a blow as grievous once as it inflicted regularly upon Zaun's people.
A feeling mixing joy and despair.
@@stormthe7seasWeren't we all? I still have hopes for Viktor because he's the one character that cannot die. Like hexcore plot didn't yet got a proper ending and in some way he either ressurect or will activate some magic shit that will help him get rid of the bomb. I also have my hopes for Ekko (not with Heimerdinger to clarify, I feel like he'll be more of a father figure for him).
@@jpxfrd6924 it's been annonced by fortiche that the second season will focus a little more on viktor and jayce story since they gotta deal with trauma now. Also if you wanna go in search of more infos about the next season be very careful about the spoilers especially about viktor since like just one image of viktor in any riot games production reveal a lot about what the character will go throught.
Silco was such an amazing villain. It was really heartbreaking to see how he died. The line "Don't cry. You're perfect" really broke my heart.
It is though the "Don't cry. You're perfect" seems to just refer to Jinx, not to Jinx herself as a person but as the uncontrollable monster Jinx that he molded and helped create.
@@conejitorosada2326 Silco has comforted Jinx for years and has heard all of her insecurities. He knows that Vi is summoning old ghosts for Jinx and is sending her spiraling; Something Silco would never force on Jinx. He knows she thinks she's a fuckup for killing him, accidentally or not. A jinx. A curse on the world.
And in his final moments he reassures her. "You're not a fuckup or an accident. Your existence is totally appropriate. I respect you. / Don't cry. You're perfect."
This is why people think Silco's a good father. He's not, but in this moment, Silco's words are meant to calm Jinx' deepest insecurities.
One of the most heartbreaking things about Jinx is that she really *does* jinx everything. Her actions, no matter the intent, always seem to make things worse
Regarding Silco talking about how Vi betrayed her- As far as he knows, she did. All he saw was the aftermath of what happened and how devastated Powder was. We the audience know the truth but Silco fully believes what he's saying.
I think he believed she was dead which would not mean betrayal in my opinion, he just used that against Jinx to feed even more of his story and anger into her
@@anavargas2837
To him, she left, then Marcus informed him she died. To both Jinx and Silco, Vi left without a trace and died after
@@anavargas2837 Everything Silco says to Jinx is what he himself fully believes. Wilco’s problem is the same as Vander’s though. They’re both pushing their past experiences onto their “daughters” without thinking about how they feel.
Not only that but we have to keep in mind, as terrible as his manipulation is, it comes from a place of desperation. She's the one thing he's unwilling to compromise on, the one thing that he can't see himself without to the point where he's willing to give up everything he's worked so hard for. It's toxic, but it comes from a place of honest love. And to me, that's what really makes this character so great.
Exactly, that’s what makes everything so fucked up, he isn’t just saying that, literally believes what he has been telling her
Silco is, imho, one of the best villains in fiction in recent decades. Very well written, voice acted and animated.
Also, sidenote. The bazooka gun Jinx uses is the weapon Silco asked her to build. It has the shape of a shark, because Silco likes sharks. It was supposed to be a gift for him. But he died...
In game, this gun gives fatherly advices to Jinx. That she mocks.
She starts hallucinating the shark rocket launcher as Silco??!! Omg! Poor girl😭
holyyyyy, I'm an on and off league player and an adc/jinx player and I just now realize that. All the voicelines make sense. Thank you for enlightening me via this comment.
I would say that he might be one of the best villains in movie/show history fiction or not.
I hate to be that person but *Jinx, sorry :/
Oh fuck, I never even made the connection between fishbones and Silco. This show just gets better and better
Silco absolutely tried to turn Jinx into him, or to put it another way, to pass on the lessons his experience taught him.
Vander did the same with Vi.
Both girls got something out of it, but neither lessons really took, because they live in different times to their "fathers".
This damn show is genius.
Silco saw himself in Jinx and tried to pass on the lessons he learned onto her because he believed they would help her just like they had helped him. Problem was, just as she said near the end, it wasn't Silco who created Jinx it was Vi so his lessons never affected her the same way.
@@trueblaze84 that too.
Yes and no. Silco's thing is creating monsters, and Jinx is his ultimate creation. Vander didn't project himself onto Vi in the same way, he didn't demand that she do things for him like creating weapons. He was a guiding hand and a protector to the children. He saw a leader in Vi and did ask her to lead the other kids. He didn't try and isolate her and make her dependent on him like Silco does with Jinx. They are parallels but obviously Silco is a toxic type of parent.
@@jediburrito oh, sure. Vander clearly had a favourite, but he cared about the others, too, whereas Silco doesn't really care about any person but Jinx.
Silco probably rationalises it as trying to teach her not to trust others, but like you say, he's fostering codepdendence whether he intends to or not.
@@Sinewmire Yeah I mean even the ethical implications of choosing one girl over an entire city of people is kind of wild. Like its romantic and its why people I guess give Silco rope with it. But its kinda not cute if your found out there was this dude out here sacrificing you and your entire family just so his daughter won't have to serve prison time for multiple homicides.
"I thought maybe you could love me like you used to. Even though I'm different". When Jinx said that last part it broke me. Jinx's past is nothing but pain and regret on what could have been, now there's no going back. Jinx has made a declaration of war against the world that rejected and took everything from her. And Vi now has to live with the fact that the innocent little girl that was once Powder is lost to her forever.
The slight pause and pained expression on her face just before she says "different" ... it's strange to say, given how well it does the big actiony stuff, but this show does so much with so little sometimes. You can tell that Jinx knows she's broken, that she doesn't want to be this way, but also that she doesn't see any way back for her now.
I feel like Jinx wishes so much that she could just be the little sister that Vi used to have. She wants to be Powder so badly, but she can't. The way she says "different" is riddled with so much pain and futility.
Its interesting that Jinx still wanted Vi to confirm that they are still sisters, not in a biological sense obviously, but that Vi still loves her, and the only complication is that Vi loves Powder unconditionally, but not Jinx. When Jinx says "Here's to the new us" I think she does indeed intend to never really let Vi go completely but maybe she will stop competing for Vi's attention.... WE SHALL SEE!
@@senpairaijin7079 Loving someone unconditionally doesn't mean you have to be ok with them going on a murder spree.
@@WiqidBritt No kidding.
"i need time to recover..."
me who finished seeing arcane for the first time around 2 months ago: "I STILL NEED TIME TO RECOVER!!!"
Given an ultimatum over the Undercity, Vander chose Vi. Vi, understanding that ultimatum, chose to sacrifice herself.
Given an ultimatum over Zaun, Silco chose Jinx. Jinx, understanding that ultimatum, was afraid he would chose to sacrifice her.
Silco is one of the most unique villains I have ever seen. We see his character develop so much over the course of the season. At first he was willing to give up everything for his position in the under city until he met Jinx. Then he understood what made Vandor change his ways. Protecting those you love.
His character development is one of the most impressive parts of the show. Back when we only had trailers I expected him to be a one-note villain, and the first three episodes kind of support that - the injured eye, pointy facial features, lessons about strength and so on. But boy, did they flip around in later arcs.
watch Star Trek DS9 and see how Dukat single-handedly fucks up the galaxy by refusing to surrender his daughter Ziyal.
He’s up there with Bondrewd for my favorite villain.
He's similar to Anakin Skywalker
It doesn’t matter how many times I watch the Finale, I cry every single time. Episodes 3 and 9 are an emotional train wreck for me, I sob uncontrollably even if I’ve watched it 6 times 😂
Don't cry, You're perfect
Apart from those, for me episode 6 has two scenes of that variety that make me cry every time (lost count of watches). Ep.3 & 9 are extremely strong but ep.6 has a special place in my heart.
Her reaction to the Jinx dinner plate takeout with Cait is gonna be funny
Yep 🤣😈☠
When your girlfriend is the wrong kind of snack
Not gonna lie. We all made the same face she's going to make at least for half a second.
@@VegetaLF7 that comment just made my day lol thank you
Non league fans: *nervous sweating*
League fans: *nervous sweating*
I actually think that Silco never wanted to manipulate Jinx, yes he projected his own experiences onto her, but because he genuinely didn't want her to get hurt again, because he saw with his own eyes how much it hurt Powder when Vi "left her". He dealed with all the aftermath that that event had on Jinx and was there for her through that whole time and he saw how much she was suffering. So when Vi came back, he wanted to do everything to prevent the same thing happening to Jinx again. So he didn't just say those things to keep Jinx on her side, he said those things because he really meant it and thought Vi is gonna betray/leave/hurt her again
Agreed
Oh really he didn't manipulate Jinx he didn't lie to her all the time and tell her to give up her personality and turn into a new evil, cruel, and murderous person all of this and he didn't manipulate her.
It seems that you watched the show and closed your eyes
15:23 I love the little touch of Silco hyperventilating. The world’s most averagest dad literally did not know which way Sevika would go, but was willing to bet his life on her loyalty. And can I just say, watching Sevika raising that sword behind the chair was Hitchcockian in its tension.
The scene where Jinx brought out the serving tray is one of the first scenes in a LONG while to fill me with a borderline primal sense of dread. The feeling of relief after it was revealed to just be a cupcake and not "Cupcake" was massive. Followed immediately by dread again because, well, that whole situation. It was such an effective final confrontation, way more impact and tension than any high octane battle could have given.
such a power move, they really perfected this narrative device! You can even see Cait's beautified version (as Vi remembers her) from their bedroom scene in the reflection right before the reveal. All these "blink and you miss it" moments that subconsciously add to the overall atmosphere and mood are absolutely fantastic.
The relationship between Silco and Jinx really is a fascinating one since it shows that just because you love someone doesn't mean you can't be a negative influence on their life. Silco does love Jinx but has been a horribly toxic force that has made her into the worst version of herself. She was traumatized child and he made all of her issues worse. Vi might have accidently started Jinx down this path but Silco was the one who dragged her past the point of no return.
He consistently isolates her from anyone outside of himself as well by telling her that ëveryone betrays them repeatedly.
On the other hand, I don't think Silco forces her too hard in the direction. Silco aside, and even before the act 3 finale, jinx was dependent, with psychosis, and an incredibly unstable mental state. She wouldn't have grown up to be some healthy person if Silco wasn't there. As we've said, Silco sees himself in Jinx, and wants to give her the advice that helped him and that he hopes will help her overcome uncertainty, dependence, etc.
I don't think he wants Jinx dependent on him, I think he wants her independent. He loves the part of her that is Jinx, and everything else. Vi and Vander can't love that part. It's unconditional love, no matter what she fucks up. Is that better? Possibly not. A parenting style question. But Jinx's traits aren't something fixable by being nicer, it's psychosis.
@@trafalgarlaw8373 I think Silco just taught her to survive in Zaun. And, to do that, to accept her mental disorder as a natural part of her. In several scenes is suggested that Jinx knows her voices aren't real, but clearly she don't rejects them, and even sometimes follows their advices. Remember Zaun is a poor town ruled by mafias, a very dangerous place, and its people needs to be though to survive there. A mentally unstable girl raisen by a Mafia Boss dad in a very dangerous place. We all could see this coming
Its because Silco is the "Jinx" version of himself, trying to raise his younger self
That really is the tragedy of their relationship. Jinx is the one person Silco is not trying to manipulate but Silco is so damaged by his youth growing up in Zan and Vander’s betrayal that he ends up teaching her to hate and fear the world and in the end this gets him killed and destroys his hope for an independent Zan.
In the Vi/Sevika barfight, when Sevika whistled and told everyone to get out, you see Theiram, the bartender, slowly sink down behind the bar. Unfortunately, that scene didn't make it into Fangirl's video but I found that hilarious 😆
I hadn't noticed that lmao that's funny
Who's Theiram, the only bartender is Chuck!
Nice try, @niteseer 😄
You mean Chuck?
What makes this so much more painful is that all those years ago, Powder killed her friends without realizing it until right after... Just like she did now with Silko, killing him without realizing it...
The moment he died, she fully accepted being Jinx
Because that's what everyone thought of her
Something you never brought up that I really liked, was how Jayce called Viktor a "Zaunite." I love that he was legitimate in his giving the Undercity its independence.
"I would've never given you to them. Don't cry, you're perfect."
Silco was complicated, but he did love Jinx like a daughter.
He was a loving father but not a very good one.
@@jonesjeremiah As a good as any father could be if raised in Zaun.
@@jonesjeremiah An evil man, but a good father.
He loved her in his own way. Silco is so singularly focused that it's hard to say how much he loved Jinx for who she was rather than the projection of his own wounded self that she represents, and her usefulness as a weapon in his cause. He loves her, but in a very selfish way.
@@CertainlyCynical Vander was raised in Zaun.
On a writing note, I love that this wasn't actually a cliffhanger. We got a resolution to the central questions posed by the story: Who will Jinx choose to be? Will there be war between Topside and Bottom? The resolution to these conflicts creates new questions for the next season, but that is not a cliffhanger. Cliffhangers are endings that occur before the conclusion can answer the story's questions. But, this show is so dramatic that it leaves us wanting more in the same way as a cliffhanger. It's so good it can do both things.
I hate when people bring this up cause a cliffhanger can still tie up other lose ends. Every episode is a cliffhanger but obviously things revolved as the story went on. It's both.
@@LangkeeLongkee It might feel like a cliffhanger as a viewer, but if you're studying the structure of the writing it's not. Arcane is so efficient with its writing that I think it's an incredibly important subject to study for creative writing.
Absolutely. Even if there is never a season 2 of this show, these nine episodes stand on their own narratively.
@@Darwinist 100% agree! this was an amazing show and even if nothing else happens in this universe I can die happily having watched this cause I got all the answers I need. Everybody made their choice, we know where they stand and we can imagine what the rocket impact is gonna do to the political situation.
I firmly believe showing anything more than that would have destroyed the emotional impact of that scene. The details aren't important for the resolution, just the decisions that lead up to this point
@@Darwinist they already confirmed a season 2 for 2023-2024 that may focus on more characters in zaun if rumours are true
When Jinx tells Vi that she is the one that made Jinx it is not meant as a dig or in a malicious context, it is a compliment. Vi telling her to embrace what makes her different because it makes her strong saved her as a child and kept her going when she lost everything that she loved. Jinx is the strongest part of her that survived all those years after the warehouse. 100% without the love and support Vi gave her as a kid she would not have been able to keep going.
Cait was at the tea party because she represents a threat to the old way where it was Powder and Vi against the world. To messed up kids who only had each other. Who loved each other most. Jinx saying I thought you could love me like you use to now that im different is a call back to how supportive Vi was of Powders “strengths” which literally is now Jinx. So fucking cool. I’ll talk about it forever.
No one will EVER convince me otherwise !
Also I know Jinx knows that Vi still and pretty much will always love her.
YESSS I love this analysis!! I had the same thought process; at first, it felt like a guilt-trip, but no she really was grateful to Vi for everything, even though as she says things are "different" now.
I still maintain that Silco, in his final moments, was defending Jinx. He saw what Vi was doing to her, even if she didn't, or just didn't realize she was making it worse. He wasn't playing tug of war, trying to bring her back to him. He pulled that gun and tried to shoot her to stop her from hurting Jinx. He was a broken, deranged, and psychotic, but he loved that girl more than anything.
I endlessly appreciate how insightful Elijah is. Picking up on the Vander hint instantly, and also connecting how Silco projected his trauma and identity onto Jinx and was actually a pretty terrible parent in terms of supporting her in a healthy way.
To quote The Joker in The Dark Knight, "Madness is like gravity. All it takes is a little push." This describes Jinx to a T.
A better one was a comic of Joker where he said “All it takes is one bad day…”
"What do you get when you cross a traumatized little girl with a world where everyone she loves dies or abandons her! I'll tell you what you get, Piltover, you get what you f*cking deserve!"
@@V1ctorTrophies The Killing Joke.
I’d say Jinx may be more of Catra’s line of “some people have a bad day, I’ve had a bad *life!”*
All it takes is several iterations of severe childhood trauma, an unsafe environment and over-reliance on a single parental figure at a very tender developmental time leading to unchecked abandonment issues, several years of toxic upbringing leaning into her mental instability, abuse of a mind-altering substance and THEN a bad day. Mental health is a complicated thing.
Ah yes the pain...The heart ache... Let's watch this master piece.
Also arcane is nominated 9 times in Annie and won all of it! What a masterpiece!
and firs time to ever happen in it's 49 years of existence
@@NneonNTJ Arcane literally made history, huh?
@@anarchyfork2676 Yep
38:37 Jinx's actress here... the way her voice cracks and breaks is just heartwrenching
Jinx really just baked a whole as cupcake for a prank and i'm here for it 😭
20:45 I just noticed a parallel to the very first episode!! When Ekko talks about where he learned where to find Jayce's room it's because he came to Benzo's shop and Ekko says, "he paid in gold and didn't even haggle". And then Silco says the exact same thing here in the final episode!! I love how consistent the writing in this series is, it's just *chef's kiss*
holy shit man i didnt even notice, u r good i dont know how you catched that
It also gives you insight into Jayce's character. He is a straight shooter. He doesn't try and cheat people, or pay people less than what they're worth. This show's writing is phenomenal.
"I'm not that crazy"
Self-aware insanity is best insanity.
"Im not that crazy"
Minutes later: *Blows up a room full of counselors who agreed of her cities independence*
@@_ripVanWinkle_ it was too late anyway.
@@_ripVanWinkle_ She wasn't telepathic either so how would she know they had agreed to anything?
I can't wait to see this one! I have so many thoughts and I wonder how will you react to certain moments - I am so here for it! (kinda been waiting since the start of your adventure with this show). Also I love your new thumbnail style - it's so pleasant to look at. Stay cool!
same
All in all fine reaction. The ones from 1-8 were better. But 9 was fine. Except her reaction towards Silco's death. I expected a bit more there. But only personal opinion.
Sane I saw him so good
Here it comes people. Elijah's volcanic eruption of emotions, tears, screams and gay LGBT loveliness. Brace yourselves 😭🥰🌈
I can't wait for Arcane season 2
Well, you're gonna have to. They announced it's in production, but we have NO idea how far down the road it's coming.
@@HaydrogenBomb Yup, it's going to take a while, but thankfully not six years this time.
36:23 I just realized rewatching with subtitles that that whisper in the background right before Jinx almost shoots does say something - "It's time to leave them." Just, you know, in case this needed to hurt more.
Also, you were mentioning how the Shimmer definitely enhanced her? They hinted at that when she brought out the platter too, because these writers don't miss a single detail. Jinx was wearing both gauntlets while doing so, even though the right gauntlet was broken and it should have been impossible for her to lift it like that. We saw Jayce struggle with it without the crystal and Vi took it off. We also saw Jinx shake out that wrist when she dropped the gauntlet. She was /definitely/ sending a message by doing that as well as testing Vi.
Love following your reactions.
26:30
I bet my entire life that Jinx was just sitting on the side eating some popcorn when Sevika and Vi were fighting. 😂
the best part of this is what the writers said, season 2 will be centered around Caitlyn and Vi's story in the way they've always seen them, we won't survive
'Don't cry, you're perfect'. The final scene broke me... 6 years in the making of Arcane and the result is/was a (chef’s kiss) masterpiece :3
The final song, Sting - What could have been, is not aimed to some specific character, but to ALL of them.
Great reaction! It’s crazy to think the guys that create VI and Jinx almost 10 years ago made this masterpiece with no tv experience! After the typical shopping around Hollywood, Riot took a chance and let these guys do it themselves. They love their creations so much and it shows. They also built this incredible relationship with the animation studio Fortiche that began with the music vid “Get Jinx” which unveiled Jinx. That studio has done tons of shorts in the past 9 years in different styles and love LOL characters. Arcane animation is ridiculous.
Arcane was the barometer to see if they could do series about their game and if people enjoyed it. They got their answer pretty quick lol. Season 2 won’t take nearly as long. They explained how having ZERO experience created tons of issues and roadblocks as they learned. Also they took their time casting voice actors they felt fit their characters. The VA’s are amazing. Even the child VA for Powder was like 13 and crazy good (that scene where Vi leaves her!)
Btw if you need a little more of VI and Caitlyn and a tease how they fight together … check out league of legends Warriors animated short 2020 ( you’ll love it). Can’t wait for more from them - so many really interesting characters in the world they created.
The finale is what I like to call, "How everyone failed to help Jinx". Everyone at that dinner party failed Jinx in their own way.
First we have Cait. The thing I love about Cait is her compassion and empathy despite her upbringing. How she hugged Huk and her partnership with "her good friend" Vi were prime examples. Here however, she failed to see the hurting sister of Vi who needed help and could only see the criminal Jinx who was "To far gone". Her law enforcement instincts were out in full force. Not completely her fault with her being kidnapped but still.
Second was Silco. Silco is a bad man, but not the worst father. He's an active listener, and encouraged Jinx's creativity and genius. However, their relationship is toxic. He does put his own past and demons onto Jinx, feeding her paranoia and abandonment issues.
Finally we have Vi. Vi is an incredible character, but she has some character flaws and they are in full display here. She is a woman of action who solves most of her problems with her fists. She is however unable to handle the volatile nature of her mentally ill sister. During Jinx's hallucination, Vi was unintentionally overloading Jinx despite Jinx telling her to stop. Like Silco (ironically) she's also unable to let go of the past. She wants Powder back, but is unable to accept the young woman in front of her named Jinx. This is what Jinx ment when she said how she hoped Vi could lover her like she use to even though she was different. Say what you want about Silco, but he was mostly correct when he said that Vi would last a day before realizing that Jinx was no longer Powder.
This was a beautiful tragity where every one was right, while being wrong and EVERYONE loses in the end.
I legit don't understand how people act so surprised that Silco legit cared for Jinx thinking all he said was bullshit, their conversations as father to daughter, Silco shown his weak side to Jinx and even how stressed he was when she was not around, take the needle in the eye scene, when Jinx was not around he been so used to have her around him to help him with it, when she was not there it he got stressed like a moment where he did not want to do it at all. he defended Jinx again and again. and the biggest part of how Loyalty was so damn important, he took Jinx under his wing since he knew how it felt to be betrayed and left behind. and Vi was hurting Jinx, Vi amplified Jinx PTSD so damn much, look how there old past family pops up, for Vi it's meaning for remember good but for Jinx dose names show up as monsters that haunts her, and VI keeps calling their names wanting Jinx to be powder so she could be happy sisters again, when it was only hurting Jinx. ++++ that bullshit about Silco = jinx violent did any of you watch the first episodes, theft, fights, death was a everyday when they where kids Powder even made bombs set for killing that in the end almost killed everyone in the building, and she legit happy until she saw that it had also killed her family. and + again she did abandon Jinx, she called her A jinx and hit her, and choose to run away. it was sett she had a choice and ran away, regretting it later dose not mater she took a choice and that sett everything in motion.
and that "peace" was for them getting Jinx life so screw that.
I agreed with almost everything, but Vi didn't abandon Jinx, she was a kid, that literally lost all her family due to her sister. She was angry, sad and confused, and end up hitting her sister, so she choosed to walk away for 2 minutes to calm down and come back later. (Sorry if this all didn't make any sense lol, my english is very shitty)
@@rfs.... that's true, but from silco's perspective it must've seemed like vi genuinely betrayed powder. the only perspectives he had were jinx's and his own, and they both thought that vi betrayed her and later died (due to marcus lying). that doesn't justify his actions, but it's easy to see how he could've come to the conclusion that he was helping jinx and not breaking her further.
"Vi never abandoned her" - that's something I always think about from Silco's perspective. Yes, we know Vi tried to get back to her. But Silco never saw that. He thought she was dead for years, only to learn she was alive while Jinx was left to his care.
For all we know, he totally believed* Vi abandoned Jinx like Vander did to Silco.
So technically speaking, it's very possible he wasnt trying to manipulate Jinx with that, and was instead speaking from what they both believe. He saw himself in her because she was left alone and defenseless after someone she cared about turned against her.
Silco genuinely cared for Jinx. While on one hand, yeah, he didn't help her much at all with her mental health, he did treasure her over his own dream.
In the scene where he talks to Vander's statue, he says "It all makes sense now brother. Is there anything so undoing as a daughter?"
This moment is crucial, because it's showing us that he understands why Vandor fought for Vi and Powder. He now knew the struggles of being a father and being willing to give up everything for Jinx.
Silco was the one who sent Marcus to kill Vi. he though Vi was dead because he was the one who sent Marcus to kill her. its not that he didn't see Vi go back after Jinx. Rather he did what he could to ensure that Vander's entire family was gone, in fact, scene where Jinx hugs him very much suggests that he was going to kill Powder as well, he just changes his mind because he realizes he could use someone who is capable of creating the kind of bombs that Powder made even as young as she was - and who immediately attached herself to him. he could build up her loyalty to him and use her as his weapon. that he ends up growing genuinely attached in return even WHILE doing all of the manipulating - is an outcome that he didn't expect. but he didn't adopt Powder out of the goodness of his heart or any sort of relating to her situation and he absolutely did NOT care for her back then.
@@Addam_ ++
@ForgedFaerie It's a very wrong assessment. You can't understand the character.
@@Forgefaerie Silco had no idea that Jinx even made the bombs, he just knew that she was Vi's sister. He changed his mind about killing her because she says "she is not my sister anymore" which reminded Silco of when Vander, his 'brother', betrayed him. This is reinforced by the fact that he stares at Vander's corpse before saying "We'll show them all". You simply choose not to empathize with the character even though he's made to be a tragic villain
@@VermillionGates oh I empathize with him. he is STILL wrong and a shit father and manipulative bastard. its what makes him a great character and a villain, you understand where and why he is coming from even while understanding how wrong he is. on further rewatch, you are probably right as to why he changes his mind, BUT
it doesn't change is that yes, he is STILL responsible for Vi not being able to get back to Jinx. He has started pulling Marcus's strings even before Vander was gone. snippet where he changes his mind about Jinx - note the focus on the knife, he WAS going to kill her. And Marcus's "he'll kill you if he hears you" now HOW would he know that so confidently.... ruclips.net/video/fSUd--JuJP8/видео.html
furthermore ruclips.net/video/uPnEHTPLmxk/видео.html very first meeting with Marcus. and how he manipulates him later. If you think he hasn't made it clear that Vander's kids need to be all dead, if you think someone as smart as Silco didn't make sure to verify in some way.
he didn't just think Vi was dead, Marcus TOLD him she was dead ruclips.net/video/7Wq19hY1AN4/видео.html
He knowingly manipulated Jinx into being dependent on him and ONLY him. does he develop soft spot for her? yes. in his own messed up way he loves her... the way abusers love their victims and justify abuse with "love"
@@Addam_ he is a fantastically written character, as are all of Arcane's characters and while i'm not sure I would call him best character in Arcane, he is IMO one of the best if not THE best antagonists in animated (and possibly live action) media since Azula. I'm genuinely sad that he's gone. I understand why narratively it was necessary as that one last thing that pushes Jinx over irrevocably, but god was he fun to watch.
This show is just a cinematic masterpiece and I don't care how long we have to wait for the next season as long as it is just as good as this one.
Agreed. Knowing how the showrunners strived to achieve this quality and gave enough time for the teams to do it right, I'm pretty sure it's in good hands and season 2 will also be great. Story-wise to be honest I can't think of anything more endearing and heartbreaking than Vi and Powder's - I hope they came up with a core story as strong as that, because the sisters made S1 tick.
I love how you completely missed when Jinx called Caitlyn Vi's girlfriend
I get why you missed it, there was a lot going on
And I have seen this episode many times, and I have never noticed that guy, and I agree, he looks a lot like Vander
There's a lot of people who speculate that he's a particular game character who happens to have a very wolf-like theme, which would fit uncomfortably well with Vander's "Hound of the Underground" moniker...
Arcane was nominated for 9 different categories on Annie Awards (Oscar for animation) and won all of them. Well deserved, in my opinion)
Know what I noticed? When Jinx has her monologue sitting in the Jinx chair, it's the first time she sounds like an adult. Her voice gets deeper and rougher. Like the mad childlike persona drops for a minute there. Shivers.
I always loved Jace as a character. He bends, but never breaks. He strays from the path, but never loses it.
"I really think that was Vander" how does she figure out EVERYTHING in this show so fast 😭
*Spoilers*
Admittedly it's not 100% confirmed yet...but let's be honest, he's almost certainly going to become The Uncaged Wrath of Zaun in Season 2.
I think it's a little funny that's someone does not know League of Legends lore and noticed that someone might be Vanda or someone else who knows
@@ScorpionViper1001 There's absolutely no way that doesn't happen. They even play WW's leitmotif when Silco tells Vander he'll show him what he really is in episode 3. Not to mention how many time he gets called a dog in various ways.
Honestly that was a bit suspect for me, almost like she knew beforehand that Vander/Warwick is a thing.
Could be wrong of course but that one discovery didn't feel organic.
@@ninjatoriumnova2483 He also growls when he is under the shimmer.
The death of silco was the part of the show that finally got me, the most tragic part of the show for me.
One of the best parts of the show is that Jinx literally "jinxs" everything. Like she is THE problem, that's what everyone around Silco have been telling him. But he loved her too much and just ignored it (in his own twisted way, but he did love her).
Jinx literally killed both of her "fathers". And when Silco told her she was perfect even though she killed him? Yeah, that was it.
1) Jinx has gave up and just accepted the fact she brings chaos and trouble
2) She did realise that Silco truly loved her
Two lines that aren't fully included that are super important to this scene:
"I never would have given you to them. Not for anything. Don't cry. You're perfect."
I know you don't understand or like Silco, but these lines are his final words and importantly, his last words to Jinx after she shot him.
You could see it as a double-down on whatever and an assurance of his innocence in betraying her.
But these are his last words, what happens next, he'll never live to see. He has no ability to gain anything, because anything gained will not serve him in any way. And what do these lines actually do?
They clarify that he wasn't gonna betray her and chose her over his life-long dream for the nation of Zaun. They reassure her. They tell her she's perfect. They show that despite the fact that she shot and killed him, he isn't mad or resentful. They are in fact some of the most outwardly focused lines he has.
And can I just say for someone as plagued with crippling self-doubt, anxiety and negative self-image as Jinx; for someone whose entire identity is based around the idea that she is a jinx on her loved ones, to have someone tell you that you are perfect is huge. She just shot him and he responds by telling her not to cry and that there is nothing wrong with her.
Now perfection is another thing that can be damaging, don't get me wrong, but it is an absolute (which keeps it in line with the rest of his statement).
"I NEVER would have given you to them. NOT for ANYTHING. DON'T cry. You're PERFECT."
These are all absolutes, things that are meant to leave no room for doubt in her mind (absolutes to combate the constant doubts that manifest in her mind) . He was going to give up his dream for her, because he wouldn't have given her up for anything they could have offered, she doesn't need to cry, there is nothing wrong with her (she is worth giving up his dream).
Looked at objectively, these last two are lies. There is reason to cry and she isn't perfect. But who does this lie benefit? Jinx.
"I thought maybe you could love me like you used to, even though I'm...different"
I have a lot of feelings about this line because of that space. In that space there are a lot of words that could have come next.
This sentiment is very common, especially for mentally ill people, neurodivergent people, queer, and other people who can find themselves othered in their families. The hope that when you reveal yourself in your most authentic state you will still be loved.
I heard the "even though I'm a killer", "even though I've hurt you", "even though I'm crazy", "even though I'm broken" before she settled on different and understood it. Because those others might feel more accurate, but they are hard to say. Different is factual, neutral and it covers everything.
Vi isn't to blame, she is woman who was locked in a box as a child and desperately wants everything to just go back to how things used to be. It is unrealistic, but understandable.
Jinx isn't to blame, she is a damaged woman who is tired of hoping for love and acceptance, tired of hoping for people to not leave her. Even if Vi said everything right, Jinx's mind would just twist it to seeing the worst. Jinx wants love, but would never be able to accept that someone loves her without having doubts.
This moment is when she loses hope that Vi could ever love her, not a past version of her, not "Powder", love her, the version living right now.
If you want to know our pain, when this finished we didn't know whether we were going to have a second season or not. They in fact revealed that S2 was going into production 3 days or so after the finale.
As a League player, I loved this ending because this is more or less where the game lore is currently. I though that it was masterfully done.
What a great show. I have never been more surprised. I was going to watch whatever Riot produced with Fortiche, because they always make great things, so I was expecting something cool. But we got this masterpiece of animation and story telling and since the very first scene I was completely immerse.
I love that people who know about LoL and people who do not have very different experience: Those who know knew that Powder was going to become Jinx, that Viktor was going to mess with the Hexcore, etc. So for us it was like watching a famous play, you know the end, but you are enthralled by the process to arrive there. I was surprised at every turn. And for people who do not know, this is like a a Greek tragedy, with characters sucumbing to their fatal flaws, meeting their destiny on the path to avoid it.
For me, one of the best series (not animated series, but series in general) ever.
This isn't really where the game lore is right now though? There are still tons of character developements needed to be done.
That's not true, they released the season 2 announcement the same day as the finale.
I thought they announced it the day act 3 came out ?
arcane's story has little to do with league's main story, its a separate canon
@@maknirak For the US. In Spain we got the episodes one day earlier, so we only knew it after it was also aired in the US.
Jinx wearing the gauntlets turned off easily was terrifying the weight of just 1 dropped Vi and the super buff Jayce couldn't raise his arm wearing it during the test.
I didn't even think about that, how strong she is now from the shimmer. Scary
I'd just assumed she'd fixed it, she's capable of that.
@@timidwolf I was also thinking that ik she had but loads of shimmer in her vains but does not have very visible side effects and there are technically different types of shimmer and the shimmer in her was to heal her not to make her a weapon
Like singed say in episode 7
That variant shimmer remember vander have lot of strengths to kill decard... But have side effect that is singed say the violent transition.. in variant shimmer he discovered how to remove the violent transition
@@timidwolf the gauntlets didn't have the light on
The final line of the season, "What could have been..." is absolutely heartbreaking. The Council genuinely voted for peace, not knowing that Silco was already dead and that peace was no longer an option.
"Dont cry, your perfect"
As awful as Silco was he truly did love Jinx even if i was in his own twisted way. He was willing to give up his entire dream of freeing the undercity just to make sure she is safe, a dream that tore apart him and the man he called his brother.
I love that you can see in Vi's face she had no idea the gauntlets could make a shield. Small facial expressions like that really make the show so great!
Also, can we appreciate how writing music for you show raises it up a level. The entire series music is a master class in elevating scenes with music. The last song just caries all the emotion and drives it home.
Its music is extremely well integrated, makes one coherent, living and breathing whole with the picture and sound.
I don't see Arcane's music praised enough, but deserves it. Both the soundtrack and the score are great.
(One of my favorites from the score is the sisters' theme, realized the fullest in ep.1: "You're Stronger Than You Think". And OMG, the violin solo with Jinx's introductory mayhem scene. And...)
To me, regardless of whether or not she has gauntlets, Vi’s fighting style is the epitome of “AND HERE COMES THE GIANT FIST!!!!!”
"I made her a snack!" "She already is a snack..." "What?" "What?"
Id like to point out that Silco never once lies to Jinx. In his eyes (or eye) Vi DID abandon her because POWDER told him that. He also says she’s dead because Marcus TOLD him. He never manipulated her, if anything all he did was encourage her to embrace herself. Was it self serving? Yes. Was it projecting? Absolutely, but he honestly put all of his care on her. The problem is it encouraged negatives traits in “Jinx,” to manifest. Vi’s mistake was believing Jinx isn’t Powder. When in reality this is who Powder is now. She’s Jinx, but instead of embracing her for what jinx was, Vi had the idea she can have “powder,” back.
Same with in the scene that Vi tells her to remember her family it negatively impacts her. Hell her mental breakdown is what motivates Silco to try and shoot Vi. He sees Jinx in distress and tries to do something.
The sad part about all of this is both Silco and Vi are being genuine, but from each other’s perspectives both are trying to manipulate her. Vi see’s Silco as someone whose taken Powder hostage when he embraced her and felt her pain. And Silco sees Vi as a traitor who wants her sister back but believes she wont be accepted by her.
Thats why when Silco says, “Youre perfect,” he literally had no regrets about taking her in no matter how much trouble she caused. He loved her for who she was not what she could do for him.
This is exactly what I was thinking. Silco may not be the best father there is, but there's no denying that he unconditionally loved Jinx. I can't say the same for Vi as she can't accept the fact that her sister isn't a little girl anymore but her own person with her own thoughts...
I think the biggest thing Silco gets wrong is believing, unconditionally, what Powder said to him when she was a scared, vulnerable, traumatized 11 year old whose entire family had just died/intentionally hurt her and then left. Because he immediately makes the connection to his experience with Vander, where he felt at his most scared, vulnerable, and traumatized, yet he was an adult who managed to craft an ideological justification for those feelings and then incorporate that into his character, he feels empowered to project that ideology and character onto Powder. He essentially thinks that the reason he found himself in a situation where he was feeling such intense fear and betrayal was because he hadn't learned the lessons he tries to give Jinx early enough.
Now, this is not a benign misunderstanding, and Silco is essentially encouraging Jinx to trap herself in the worldview of a traumatized child and repeatedly re-traumatize herself because he is so myopic about the actual circumstances of her trauma... but it is such a human misunderstanding that it's hard to hate him for it. While there is some merit to Jinx's statement that Silco didn't make Jinx, Vi did (as in, Jinx was a coping mechanism for the only concrete trauma Powder experienced that night, which was at the hands of Vi), really, Jinx could never have existed had there not been a guiding hand who had both an emotional and a material interest in creating her. Silco's entire ideology is about using people, and while his use of Powder manifests as a supportive, loving, father-daughter relationship, he is, at a very basic level, using her as an emotional crutch and a justification for his actions.
He's an insanely good villain, and it is frustrating when people don't give his character the nuanced interpretation it deserves and boil his actions down to manipulating Powder for material ends. But at the end of the day, that is, on a subconscious level at least, what he is doing; he honed his own person through his ideology into a weapon to beat Piltover, and by projecting that ideology onto Powder he is hoping that he accomplishes the same thing, because what father wouldn't want their daughter to feel empowered in the same way they have been. So while he does love her for who she is, he has been actively shaping that. Jinx was not an inevitability, she was the result of an essentially toxic worldview being instilled into a traumatized child, so that love is ultimately tainted. If what you love can only exist because of suffering, yes it's still love, but it's not the kind of unreproachable goodness some people try to characterize his love of Jinx as.
I love the moment where Jinx speaks to Vi and the audience a like with the "jeez I'm not that crazy" its a "breaking the 4th wall" moment and at the same time isn't because Vi is there
oh jesus, i'm not ready to watch you not be ready for this thing no one was ready for
When you listen "What could have been" lyrics closely, your heart breaks even more
Fun fact: according to arcane writers homophobia doesn't exists in runeterra (the world they live in).
The world has huge problems with various forms of classism. But it's quite egalitarian when it comes to race, sex, gender, sexual orientation, etc....
In Runeterra's world there is not even a word for "gay" or "straight"... The concept is not there, because it's just people liking other people.
@@nikolaigarcia also because there are animals talking walking around and various monsters in runeterra so a girl liking a girl isn’t a big deal XD
@@demise0 idk about the race part. Demacia seems to handle that poorly
@@Crimsonking120 To clarify, I meant the world thus far shown in Arcane. I don't know diddly about greater LoL world lore.
Easily the most iconic Arcane reaction series, and it’s coming back November 2024!!!
How are you not touched by silco's final words to jinx, he literally showed his true feelings to her as a father. I don't like people who only thinks all villains are bad, they have their own redemption and their own emotions.
FACTS
For real, I cried so hard during Silco’s last moment which makes him a great villain
Agreed
They needed the Undercity because that's where they have the majority of their factories and refineries, where they dump their trash and toxic waste, where they mine for resources beneath the earth, and where they get cheap labor. To give them independence means the Undercity will suddenly be in control of numerous factors which contributed to Piltover's prosperity. Piltover will need to deal with them as equals as a result.
I fucking ADORE that moment when the show makes you think it's fallen into the age-old "Bury Your Gays (And Especially Your Lesbians)" trope with Caitlin, only to reveal she's fine and basically laugh in our faces. And with a cute little reference to Se7en thrown in! XD
I've watched a bunch of different reactions to arcane, to see how everyone feels about everything and to catch all the little details. Turns out all I needed to do was watch Elijah because she has all the feelings.
Also, where do we donate to the “get Elijah a better camera” fund?
😂 Patreon maybe?
I absolutely love your attention to detail, you’re the first person I’ve seen react to this show that noticed Vander’s body on the wall. Season 2 can’t come fast enough!
Vi sacrificing herself, promising never to see Caitlyn again if Jinx would let her live. My heart! 😭
In another perspective, Silco is the one that made independence talks, and the council agree to it posible, in a way the show tells you he was right whit all his bullshit and you need to "become what they fear" and "stop at nothing"
The complexity of his character doesnt stop at being a father figure, but he is, in paralelism, also "the monster you created" in the same way Jinx is, and that is hinted in episode 3, the light and falling from him un the river in the same way the light hits Powder when she was falling, showing those two as villain origin critic momments.
Now, he is an asshole, a terrible person that hurt a lot of people, but he is totally shown as the natural result of the kind of abandonment and abuse the powerfull give to the powerless, and that is seen clearly in real life, i think that is why people say he is if not the best, tied for best character, even when he deserves all the lead comming for him.
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Silco did nothing wrong
(except projecting himself on Jinx)
(and some other things)
@@Lessen0 and some other things XD
But tbh this is jinx as well, people tend to forget that she is a mass murderer, i would have totally get caitlyn if she just killed her, it makes sense, but no champion could die.
When I was watching Jinx's mad tea party, I also thought Cait was dead and I remember breathing heavily and genuinely going into full panic mode preparing for the disturbing and gruesome scene ahead and when it was revealed to just be a cake and Cait was fine the sigh of relief I took was so huge I nearly passed out😅 but damn I've never had a show or film make me that nervous😅
One of the other reactors I watch got to the silver platter scene and shouted: "Don't what's-in-the-box me, man!" ~lol~ I was full on hyperventilating when I watched it the first time, I was SO SURE Cait's head was going to be on it. 😮
@@erinhaury5773 🤣
What movie is that from again?
@@HaydrogenBomb Seven (1995.), the last scene with Brad Pitt, Morgan Freeman and Kevin Spacey.
@@erinhaury5773 lol omg🤣🤣🤣
Anyone else notice how Vi and Jinx have polar opposite dynamics when it comes to relationships? I feel Vi has a presence that very much causes people around her to want to reach out to her, to help/follow her lead, and/or to get close to her; with her instead then putting up walls and pushing people away, preferring to carry the burden alone. Meanwhile, Jinx constantly feels people are using her and/or abandoning her but fears being alone; with her instead then trying desperately to cling onto those same people (who she thinks are using/abandoning her, btw) by whatever means necessary.
Never thought of it that way.... that's kinda heartbreaking :/
Silco's character is so well done, the way hes always wanted zaun to be independent and will do whatever it takes, but when vander gained 2 daughters he had to play safe, silco when offered zauns independence which is what he wanted all his life but then gained jinx and he refuses to give her up...
is there anything so undoing than a daughter
(also it was very nice to see VIs passive come in clutch cuz in game that passive has also saved me alot XD)
fuck man, whenever I need to feel something, I go back and watch ppl react to this show. Elijah is absolutely the best react creator for this. She has the attentiveness, the genuineness, the hilarity. Literally the best to do it, thank you Elijah lmao, you're the best at what you do fr.
So like. Nobody is gonna talk about how Jinx made the rocket ,somehow brought Caits body from Piltover to Zaun with Silco and found Vi. Waited for her to finish the fight then brought her unconcious body too. Tied everyone up. Brought the dolls from her hideout. Brought the whole ass chair ,that Vendor sat in episode 3 ,and the little things from everyone. Then prepared a cupcake just for that one joke.
If this is not the definition of multitasking ,I don't know what is.... She is something else for sure.
That Shimmer is no joke. Lol
I literally cannot stop thinking about the fact Jinx kidnapped Caitlyn straight out of the shower. Like... did she dress her? What were the logistics of that? Inquiring minds want to know. >.>
@@erinhaury5773 she saw that cupCAKE ;)
I just noticed the parallel of Viktor unable to destroy the hexcore and Powder unable to destroy the monkey bomb after Vi and the others left to save Vander
"Don't cry. You're perfect."
How could you miss the *best* line in the episode!?
She either doesn't understand Silco and what makes him a tragic character, or just chooses to not have sympathy for him. It's disappointing because otherwise she picks up and appreciates a ton of the other nuance in this amazing show. Silco's death is absolutely soul rending because of what he meant to Jinx and she just kinda says "lol good" and glosses over it entirely.
@@badwolf2386 It's a pretty common reaction from what I've seen, I mean it is her first watch of the series. She might not have picked up on everything looking at it that way...
@@badwolf2386 Because Silco is still a terrible person? Like, yeah, he's a well written villain but ultimately, he's just that. A villain. A person you're supposed to hate for their evil actions. Heck, even his last words are still evil, because even in death he couldn't stop it with his manipulative bullshit.
@@gazelle_diamond9768 he's not trying to manipulate her, he truly believes what he says. There is no manipulation in their relationship, he loves her unconditionally. Have you ever noticed how Silco is ruthless with everyone else, but with Jinx he has infinite patience? Jinx pinned him down and stabbed him in the face repeatedly and he just sat there and took it. Didn't yell at her, raise his voice, just tried to explain. He is also the only one who speaks to her as if she is not broken in some way. Everyone else, even Vi constantly remind her that she is flawed, crazy, unstable, etc. He truly believes he was protecting her. That is what makes it tragic. There's no rule that says you can't feel sympathy for villains, and often times the best written ones have that human aspect that lets us relate, like Silco.
Yea, because the line disproves her claim of Silco not caring about Jinx.
Mel's Mom: *ruthless*
Elijah: "Hi mama art :3"
I think the reason Silco always said Vi abandoned Powder was because that's what he truly believed, not an attempt to manipulate her (tho I do think he's afraid of losing his daughter Jinx to Vi). Because as far as he knows, he found Powder alone beside Vander's corpse and Powder herself stated that Vi left her (which is what made Silco relate to Powder in the first place). Sure he sees that Vi now wants to reconnect with Powder, but as far as he knows, she already betrayed her once, and might do it again, especially now when Jinx is too far gone and no longer the little girl Vi used to know.
Yeah that is silco perspective he dont know the true story why vi leave her...
Yeah I think he genuinely thinks Vi sides with topside people now that she’s with an enforcer, just like how he hates the relationship between Vander and Grayson
The parallel of Grayson-Vander-Silco and Caitlyn-Vi-Jinx relationship
@@buinugget6912 oh yeah