Hi, Yes I have UF8, UC1 and the UF1 they are simply great trio. Having said that the new firmware update to 1.6 is such a game changer. I am sure you will love it.
Just wanted to say that I bought the SSL UF8 and UC1 in order to have a more tangible feel for mixing and automation, and watching your video as I try to navigate the setup has been tremendously helpful, and watching/listening to you mix without having the visuals of Pro Tools overwhelming and affecting the mixing process, has pretty much sold me on this. Thank you again, and definitely subscribing!
I love this song and your video. Especially the small steps you take when operating the individual controls with which you create your good sound. It shows once again how important the quality of the recording is. I have UF8, UC1 and the UF1 and as hardware the ssl Bus Plus and the Fusion and everything works perfectly together. Thank you for your great work.
It’s a shame you have to select the proper channel on the Uc1 after touching the fader on the UF8 …the 3devices coexist without communicating as one big system
Nice. Love this full console-only-style demo for small desktop setup. Great track too.. Thought the vocalist had same vibe as John Boyd of Incubus. My question is - Can you not create markers to each part of the song instead of timeline scrolling between verses and chorus? It'll be cool if the timecode window can also show main mix transients to be able to 'see' where we are while working on it. Overall still very impressed on this small setup. Good stuff!
Great video and I love the fact you mixed without a screen though in reality I epexct I wouldnt approach it like that I love the fact that I could if I wanted too. One thing that stood out for me from a workflow perscpective is why when you press the solo button doesnt the UC1 immediatly change to that channel. It would save loads of time rather than you having to select it. Hopefully SSL can do something in the software that allows that to happen as a switch on/switch off function. All the best, R
Yep, that is my conclusion as well. I had the Avid S3....expensive, beautiful looking controller, which unfortunately didn`t do anything for my workflow. Everything was just quicker with the mouse and keyboard. Then I bought the Softube Console 1, which again is lovely, but is way too limiting(let´s face it, we use other plugins than just softube and UAD). So here we are, back to the mouse and keyboard + a stream deck (with actually is wonderful)
Your method of selecting which channel you would edit EQ and dynamics was the rotary dial on the UC1. Is there a way you can select a track on the eight fader unit, And have the EQ Controls automatically be editing that channel?
Sounds awesome, SSL have really started to put out very interesting small format solutions. Got a little disappointed that no suitable 8 channel adat preamp solution for the SSL12 and SSL 360 was part of the new preamp release.
...wait for it, hopefully they continue to go all in with 360 in terms of making new hardware talk to their software. You could also send them an email and it helps put numbers to the requests
@@TKTafari Seems i was wrong, SSL have released PURE DRIVE OCTO. 12 Channel ADAT preamp. The problem is the price, it's really expensive. It can be use as USB interface as well. I guess that is what motivates the high price tag.
I think I was in the normal DAW mode. I played around with 360 for a bit, it was easy to adjust to but I was more comfortable in ProTools. Especially with some of the parallel processing and stuff, it made more sense to me for the video.
@@MillSounds that’s cool. I’m a logic user but work in 360 mode as that way it feel more like a DAW going into a desk. I leave all my DAW faders in zero.
I have uc1 and uf8 but be honest with this price SSL big six is a better option,cz U can have Analog SSL and interface in same time and you can feel real E Channelstrip and more knochy and glue characters, New update of SsL 4kB is really nice but I still thinking about SSL Big six
Holy crap, look at that bass cone of the monitor, over his left shoulder. I wonder what that type of speaker damage does to the bass response?? Maybe it's time to get a a new monitor, to replace the one that is damaged??
I'm never going to hear the end of that damn speaker cone 🤣..... It was sent in to Barefoot, it tested perfectly fine and didn't need to be replaced. I took a gamble on a used pair with that damage, and it paid off and I saved a lot of money. As always, I appreciate the "well meaning" feedback 😛
I love the idea of turning off the computer screen. If you were using 3rd party plugins, like compressors, reverb etc. I take it you would need a screen then?
I think if I were using other plugins and another control surface, the learning curve would be a lot higher. It would just take some time to learn your control surface and how every different plugin maps to it. The fun thing about the SSL control surfaces is that everything matched visually, so it's easy to take your eyes off the screen almost immediately.
@@MillSounds I'm kinda tempted to get one. I've used reaper up until a month ago. Now on pro tools. But one step at a time. I mix my own music more out of necessity rather than something I particularly enjoy. I'd much rather have the money to pay someone else. But I love gear so I might start saving up the pennies.
I have used a Nucleus 2 in the past. On a positive, it is also a simple interface and has two mic pre's which is nice, but as a controller, I find it slightly clunky! ... You soon get frustrated trying to manipulate plugins on the Nucleus, but the way that the UC1 works with it's software counterpart is a breeze to work with. My mixes come together faster and as stated in the video... I agree - I prefer to mix without using my eyes. In essence I think that SSL have just made everything a lot slicker with these units.
That's just gain staging. Compression isn't happening all the time, only at certain times during peaks. I'm changing the output gain that's happening after the compression, it's just proper gain staging. A lot of times we get tricked into thinking that compression is doing more than it is, simply because compression can make something louder as well. By adjusting gain after the compression to match the gain level before compression, you get a more accurate idea of what's going on and what the compressor is actually doing (as opposed to "thinking" things sound better simply because they're louder). The other factor here is that depending on what part of the video you're watching, I'm setting up my mix to have some compression over the whole master bus so I can mix into that compression. If you're going to mix into a compressor over your whole mix like that, it's important to maintain proper gain staging during the whole mixing process to insure you're not just continually making everything louder and overloading the bus compressor.
Oh no, you’re one of “those” people? 😂 Ya, I’ve always done drummers perspective, the other way drives me nuts. I have a lot of friends that started out doing live sound and have to do audience perspective, so I get it…
@@MillSounds One of those people? Hm, I did not know that question belonged to a people. For me it was just a question that popped up, when listening thoroughly to your proces during the whole video. I have never done live sound other than for myself (and I am not a drummer). Logically though, I picture a band in front of me when I hear music that sounds live-ish as in this case. This is typically a (double) mono experience, and thus we ought to mix everything in mono, but stereo came around to simulate that we were actually there in the room with the band. That would in principle mean that a drum set played by a right handed drummer always had the small tom and the hihat to the right. Therefore, I was fishing for the answer that the drummer in this particular band might be left handed and that you respectfully reflected that which would have been a very elegant and subtle gesture in my opinion. I did not know I was walking right into a storm (if that is what I did). :-)
@@steensvanholm I was trying to joke with you, sorry it did not come across that way. You did not walk into a storm, this is a common thing in the audio engineering community and is usually joked about. There is no "right" or "wrong" way to pan the drums, but you'll find many engineers strongly prefer to do it one way or another. If you started out doing live sound and were mixing shows in stereo, you would be very used to mixing from the audience perspective. When I first starting learning in the studio, I also started to play the drums a bit and was use to hearing the drums from a drummers perspective. Most drummers want drums panned from the drummers perspective in their headphones as well when recording, so I've become accustomed to doing it that way. I've had a few clients request the drums be mixed from the audience perspective on their mixes, I still have to mix from the drummers perspective and flip the stereo image at the last minute to send to the client. When you originally posted, I thought you were trying to joke with me. Again, this is one of those on going jokes in the audio community, and people "joking" give other engineers a hard time when they do it a different way. You can do it however you want though!
Oh man, I've got plenty of room. This desk is huge and usually has my API console on it (It's 58 inches, almost 150 cm wide). I did it this way for the video, as it was easier to fit everything in frame that way. If I would have laid all three controllers out side by side, I would have ended up with a really wide camera angle and it would be harder to see the controls. I did that for you so you could see everything better 🤣
Sometimes I really want people to just cut to the chase and do the thing. Reiterating the same points over and over triggers me like an ex girlfriend who won't stop saying the same stuff over and over before everything gets quiet.
@MillSounds what do you think of your SSL audio interface? I just got the 2+ to run mu Soundcraft Spirit E12 into and I freaking love it. The sound is so clean and up front. My first SSL (because everything else they make costs thousands).
@@ultrajayme I think it's ok for the money. I like the converters on my Apollo's a lot better, but that's a lot more money. Preamps were really cool, and the software was easy to learn and really versatile with how it incorporates into the rest of their ecosystem. Really well thought out!
Very curious to know if anyone is using the UF1 with Cakewalk/Sonar? I appreciate it's not officially supported, however Sonar does run MCU and so in theory it could still add value. Am I going to be wasting my time and £ if I try out the UF1? Very grateful for any thoughts, thanks. @billhester
Hi, Yes I have UF8, UC1 and the UF1 they are simply great trio. Having said that the new firmware update to 1.6 is such a game changer. I am sure you will love it.
Just wanted to say that I bought the SSL UF8 and UC1 in order to have a more tangible feel for mixing and automation, and watching your video as I try to navigate the setup has been tremendously helpful, and watching/listening to you mix without having the visuals of Pro Tools overwhelming and affecting the mixing process, has pretty much sold me on this. Thank you again, and definitely subscribing!
I love this song and your video. Especially the small steps you take when operating the individual controls with which you create your good sound. It shows once again how important the quality of the recording is. I have UF8, UC1 and the UF1 and as hardware the ssl Bus Plus and the Fusion and everything works perfectly together. Thank you for your great work.
you didi a better job of selling these than the SSL sales people.
It’s a shame you have to select the proper channel on the Uc1 after touching the fader on the UF8 …the 3devices coexist without communicating as one big system
Yeah but thats a Software thing only not a physical PROBLEM anymore
This is awesome. Thanks for sharing. This will be a major factor in my switching to a fully digital mixing workflow.
Great video. Love the vibe of just getting to look over your shoulder while you work.
Excellent video. Great easy, articulate speaking style. Very fine production values.
Very helpful. Thanks for taking the time to make this
I've got all 3 devices too. I'm still learning muscle memory for the UF8 controls and customising it all with my own short cuts. really love it.
SSL is winning the console wars
Nice. Love this full console-only-style demo for small desktop setup. Great track too.. Thought the vocalist had same vibe as John Boyd of Incubus.
My question is - Can you not create markers to each part of the song instead of timeline scrolling between verses and chorus? It'll be cool if the timecode window can also show main mix transients to be able to 'see' where we are while working on it. Overall still very impressed on this small setup. Good stuff!
Great video and I love the fact you mixed without a screen though in reality I epexct I wouldnt approach it like that I love the fact that I could if I wanted too. One thing that stood out for me from a workflow perscpective is why when you press the solo button doesnt the UC1 immediatly change to that channel. It would save loads of time rather than you having to select it. Hopefully SSL can do something in the software that allows that to happen as a switch on/switch off function. All the best, R
i really appreciate you incorporating asl into your videos. just picking with you, i appreciate this video very much thanks.
Beautiful.
Excellent, very good! Again.
Great video!
They are beautiful controllers. I have designed controllers for over 25 years. But my preference now is just a mouse and a monitor. Quite ironic.
same here, no firmware issues, less to go wrong, and quicker! though I prefer a trackpad to a mouse,
Yep, that is my conclusion as well. I had the Avid S3....expensive, beautiful looking controller, which unfortunately didn`t do anything for my workflow. Everything was just quicker with the mouse and keyboard. Then I bought the Softube Console 1, which again is lovely, but is way too limiting(let´s face it, we use other plugins than just softube and UAD). So here we are, back to the mouse and keyboard + a stream deck (with actually is wonderful)
Thank you brooo... great job!
Your method of selecting which channel you would edit EQ and dynamics was the rotary dial on the UC1. Is there a way you can select a track on the eight fader unit, And have the EQ Controls automatically be editing that channel?
Sounds awesome, SSL have really started to put out very interesting small format solutions. Got a little disappointed that no suitable 8 channel adat preamp solution for the SSL12 and SSL 360 was part of the new preamp release.
...wait for it, hopefully they continue to go all in with 360 in terms of making new hardware talk to their software. You could also send them an email and it helps put numbers to the requests
@@TKTafari Seems i was wrong, SSL have released PURE DRIVE OCTO. 12 Channel ADAT preamp. The problem is the price, it's really expensive. It can be use as USB interface as well. I guess that is what motivates the high price tag.
Great video. Are you mixing in DAW mode or 360 plugin mode?
I think I was in the normal DAW mode. I played around with 360 for a bit, it was easy to adjust to but I was more comfortable in ProTools. Especially with some of the parallel processing and stuff, it made more sense to me for the video.
@@MillSounds that’s cool. I’m a logic user but work in 360 mode as that way it feel more like a DAW going into a desk. I leave all my DAW faders in zero.
The answer to your question IMHO is Yes. Both are great together... :)
I have uc1 and uf8 but be honest with this price SSL big six is a better option,cz U can have Analog SSL and interface in same time and you can feel real E Channelstrip and more knochy and glue characters,
New update of SsL 4kB is really nice but I still thinking about SSL Big six
They don’t replace each other, get both!
Informative…..thanks
@Millsounds is that a ding in the Barefoot cone?
Yes, haha. They got sent into Barefoot and passed the test, really surprising! I’m cheap, so just left them as is for now.
Holy crap, look at that bass cone of the monitor, over his left shoulder. I wonder what that type of speaker damage does to the bass response?? Maybe it's time to get a a new monitor, to replace the one that is damaged??
I'm never going to hear the end of that damn speaker cone 🤣..... It was sent in to Barefoot, it tested perfectly fine and didn't need to be replaced. I took a gamble on a used pair with that damage, and it paid off and I saved a lot of money. As always, I appreciate the "well meaning" feedback 😛
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I love the idea of turning off the computer screen. If you were using 3rd party plugins, like compressors, reverb etc. I take it you would need a screen then?
I think if I were using other plugins and another control surface, the learning curve would be a lot higher. It would just take some time to learn your control surface and how every different plugin maps to it. The fun thing about the SSL control surfaces is that everything matched visually, so it's easy to take your eyes off the screen almost immediately.
@@MillSounds I'm kinda tempted to get one. I've used reaper up until a month ago. Now on pro tools. But one step at a time. I mix my own music more out of necessity rather than something I particularly enjoy. I'd much rather have the money to pay someone else. But I love gear so I might start saving up the pennies.
@@GudlaugurMusic If you don't buy a cool toy, send me some stuff to mix 🤣
What is the difference between using all 3 of these or just buying the Nucleus 2?
I have used a Nucleus 2 in the past. On a positive, it is also a simple interface and has two mic pre's which is nice, but as a controller, I find it slightly clunky! ... You soon get frustrated trying to manipulate plugins on the Nucleus, but the way that the UC1 works with it's software counterpart is a breeze to work with. My mixes come together faster and as stated in the video... I agree - I prefer to mix without using my eyes. In essence I think that SSL have just made everything a lot slicker with these units.
If you compress and then lower the gain..... don't you loose all the compression?
That's just gain staging. Compression isn't happening all the time, only at certain times during peaks. I'm changing the output gain that's happening after the compression, it's just proper gain staging. A lot of times we get tricked into thinking that compression is doing more than it is, simply because compression can make something louder as well. By adjusting gain after the compression to match the gain level before compression, you get a more accurate idea of what's going on and what the compressor is actually doing (as opposed to "thinking" things sound better simply because they're louder).
The other factor here is that depending on what part of the video you're watching, I'm setting up my mix to have some compression over the whole master bus so I can mix into that compression. If you're going to mix into a compressor over your whole mix like that, it's important to maintain proper gain staging during the whole mixing process to insure you're not just continually making everything louder and overloading the bus compressor.
@@MillSounds oh. ok. Thank you for answering :)
Hi ....Good video
Needs a cowbell! 😎
I know, rookie mistake...
You still using the API?
Drums mixed from drummer's perspective, why?
Oh no, you’re one of “those” people? 😂 Ya, I’ve always done drummers perspective, the other way drives me nuts. I have a lot of friends that started out doing live sound and have to do audience perspective, so I get it…
@@MillSounds One of those people? Hm, I did not know that question belonged to a people. For me it was just a question that popped up, when listening thoroughly to your proces during the whole video. I have never done live sound other than for myself (and I am not a drummer). Logically though, I picture a band in front of me when I hear music that sounds live-ish as in this case. This is typically a (double) mono experience, and thus we ought to mix everything in mono, but stereo came around to simulate that we were actually there in the room with the band. That would in principle mean that a drum set played by a right handed drummer always had the small tom and the hihat to the right.
Therefore, I was fishing for the answer that the drummer in this particular band might be left handed and that you respectfully reflected that which would have been a very elegant and subtle gesture in my opinion. I did not know I was walking right into a storm (if that is what I did). :-)
@@steensvanholm I was trying to joke with you, sorry it did not come across that way. You did not walk into a storm, this is a common thing in the audio engineering community and is usually joked about. There is no "right" or "wrong" way to pan the drums, but you'll find many engineers strongly prefer to do it one way or another. If you started out doing live sound and were mixing shows in stereo, you would be very used to mixing from the audience perspective. When I first starting learning in the studio, I also started to play the drums a bit and was use to hearing the drums from a drummers perspective. Most drummers want drums panned from the drummers perspective in their headphones as well when recording, so I've become accustomed to doing it that way. I've had a few clients request the drums be mixed from the audience perspective on their mixes, I still have to mix from the drummers perspective and flip the stereo image at the last minute to send to the client.
When you originally posted, I thought you were trying to joke with me. Again, this is one of those on going jokes in the audio community, and people "joking" give other engineers a hard time when they do it a different way. You can do it however you want though!
can we get the multitacks?
Sorry, not for this one.
@@MillSounds do you have some multitacks so we can practice
where's the API? 😢😂
It took a vacation in the corner, it's back now! 🤣
@@MillSounds scared me lol! great SSL video though 👍
For me these are far better in conjunction with a monitor or 2...
The bleed is a real problem.
Blimey... I started to watch your video and felt extremely frustrated that you had to mix in an analogue fashion on a desk that's 40 cms wide.
Oh man, I've got plenty of room. This desk is huge and usually has my API console on it (It's 58 inches, almost 150 cm wide). I did it this way for the video, as it was easier to fit everything in frame that way. If I would have laid all three controllers out side by side, I would have ended up with a really wide camera angle and it would be harder to see the controls. I did that for you so you could see everything better 🤣
Sometimes I really want people to just cut to the chase and do the thing. Reiterating the same points over and over triggers me like an ex girlfriend who won't stop saying the same stuff over and over before everything gets quiet.
Well now it's just awkward and quiet 😂. Sorry for rambling, let me know if you have any specific feedback, it's always appreciated!
@MillSounds i was stoned and drinking wine! I'm an asshat! You're fine haha I was in a total mood. My apologies. You're totally cool 😆🤦
@@ultrajayme All good, but ultimately it doesn't really help me make these reviews better if everyone just says "great job 💯"
@MillSounds what do you think of your SSL audio interface? I just got the 2+ to run mu Soundcraft Spirit E12 into and I freaking love it. The sound is so clean and up front. My first SSL (because everything else they make costs thousands).
@@ultrajayme I think it's ok for the money. I like the converters on my Apollo's a lot better, but that's a lot more money. Preamps were really cool, and the software was easy to learn and really versatile with how it incorporates into the rest of their ecosystem. Really well thought out!
Very curious to know if anyone is using the UF1 with Cakewalk/Sonar? I appreciate it's not officially supported, however Sonar does run MCU and so in theory it could still add value. Am I going to be wasting my time and £ if I try out the UF1? Very grateful for any thoughts, thanks. @billhester
I don't agree with drums at all ! SSL is a wonderful company, but you are a small engineer !
I will try to be bigger engineer.