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  • Опубликовано: 24 авг 2024

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  • @hennirottstock2841
    @hennirottstock2841 5 лет назад +45

    I've been studying japanese at university for 3 years and now started to learn korean this year and with the knowledge I already have through learning japanese I picked up korean much faster than my fellow students in the korean class, cause there are indeed many similarities.
    But if you have no knowledge of asian languages beforehand there is no use explaining one foreign language through another! So yes I agree with you on that Billy :)

    • @user-qh7rw5gy5i
      @user-qh7rw5gy5i 2 года назад +1

      I honestly doubt you learned any natural Japanese at your classes (unless you actually studied abroad at some point)
      College language classes are the most ineffective way to learn a language.

    • @b.a.p.4718
      @b.a.p.4718 Год назад

      I’m curious to know if you’ve kept up with your Korean studies. 😃
      I’ve been studying Korean everyday since September 2019 and it’s been rewarding yet has taken a lot of dedication. 💦
      회이팅! 🙂

    • @hennirottstock2841
      @hennirottstock2841 Год назад +1

      @@b.a.p.4718 Yes, I am still actively studying Korean! I just successfully completed a year abroad in Seoul, and I agree with you that seeing one's efforts pay off by actually being able to communicate in Korean is so rewarding ^^

    • @b.a.p.4718
      @b.a.p.4718 Год назад

      @@hennirottstock2841 Oh, that’s wonderful! 😃 I’m glad to hear you had an opportunity to study abroad in Seoul. I taught English in Sejong City from August 2015 - August 2018. I left with only a beginner level understanding of the language. After getting tired of telling people I couldn’t speak Korean after returning home to the USA, I started self-studying seriously from September 2019. I am firmly upper intermediate, I think. I can enjoy Korean shows without subtitles although I don’t catch everything that’s said. 😄
      Any plans further plans with Korea or your Korean? How about the Japanese?

  • @shallowsleep15
    @shallowsleep15 5 лет назад +31

    Thanks for this! I enjoyed learning a bit more of the history. I’ve found myself doing this a lot. I’ve been learning Japanese for 5 years, and have a pretty good grasp on it, and I find myself comparing Korean to Japanese a lot in my beginning stages of Korean. At least as a beginner in Korean, the grammar seems very similar. Definitely a lot closer to Japanese than to English, so with a background in Japanese, it’s hard not auto translating things to Japanese while trying to learn Korean, especially with particles, since both languages share those and English has nothing like them. I also wanted to simultaneously learn them, but I noticed it’s hard doing them at the same time. I’m having the same problem, cause my Japanese has stalled because I’m trying to split my time. I really enjoy Japanese as a language, but I’m interested in Korean too, and I have a Korean mother-in-law, so I’d have more use for it. It’s confusing 😭 It’s also hard knowing when to start learning a second foreign language, because language is endless, and you never really stop learning languages.
    I will say I think having a background in one or the other before starting the other is helpful, because you don’t have to be shocked by the seemingly backwards sentence order all over again.

    • @J_young_824
      @J_young_824 3 года назад

      I feel you learning languages is continous. Like English. We started studying english since elementary until college and up until now I'm still learning. If you are not expose to people who speaks those native languages you learn then tendency you cant practice your speaking skills. I have high respect to polyglots. The amount of time they spend learning langauges. 💕

  • @jimbinha
    @jimbinha 5 лет назад +15

    I plan on starting Japanese once my Korean becomes good enough to be used daily. It could be "through" Korean, but it is always easier to find good resources in English. It shouldn't matter, as both are "foreign" to me.

  • @lofiben
    @lofiben 5 лет назад +14

    Thank you for this and the history behind all of it... I had no idea!
    I have to agree that if you are learning one, stick to that one until you get a really good grasp of it (advanced and beyond) Otherwise, it will be a struggle to manage both at the same level and one is bound to suffer.
    I started studying Korean two years ago, only after studying Japanese for 4 years in university and living in Japan for 5 years working and using Japanese. My Japanese is now second nature (although not native level, of course).
    Knowing Japanese has tremendously helped with my comprehension of Korean via grammar structures, borrowed Chinese character based words and speech patterns (to a certain extent). The textbooks I use to study Korean are written for Japanese speakers and it is easy to figure out how to use that word based off its Japanese equivalent, whereas if I use a textbook written for English speakers, I might not know exactly how that word functions right off the bat. The same goes for grammatical patterns.
    Knowing Japanese gives me a certain "mode" of thinking that makes it easier to fill in the blanks for Korean.
    However, as I hit lower intermediate level Korean, it is important to notice the differences between the languages as well. Many people talk about the similarities and while that's true for the beginning stages, once you hit the intermediate mark, it is important to note how certain speech patterns in Japanese can sound awkward in Korean if directly translated from J to K. This is dubbed as "Japanese styled Korean" by native Japanese speakers learning Korean.
    Such differences include:
    1. Usage of honorifics (Korean: it's ALWAYS honorifics for people above or older than you, in Japanese: depends on the context of the in and out group)
    2. Speech patterns (in Japanese, 〜と思う is used a lot to mean "I think..." but in Korean it is NOT always 라고 생각해요 which is basically the directly translated equivalent in Japanese)
    3. Differences in Chinese Character Usage (in Japanese: 断る in Korean: 거절하다 which is based off these characters: 拒絶, i.e. not the same ones as the Japanese, etc.)
    4. Japanese tends to be verbose in comparison to Korean. In Japanese we might say ご案内申し上げます and a Japanese speaker might translate that phrase as 안내 드리겠습니다 but that a native Korean might say 안내합니다.
    etc!

    • @unhealow
      @unhealow Год назад

      really instructive thank you so much

  • @subodhsanwal9214
    @subodhsanwal9214 5 лет назад +71

    When u are an anime fan and want to learn Japanese, and a kpop fan and wanna learn korean...
    And u get to do both😂

    • @tessakutesa3257
      @tessakutesa3257 5 лет назад

      subodh sanwal true

    • @siratshi455
      @siratshi455 3 года назад

      Japanese is enough for me, I just don't like how Korean sounds

    • @justinseagull3279
      @justinseagull3279 3 года назад

      yup

    • @vaffangool9196
      @vaffangool9196 3 года назад +3

      @@siratshi455
      I'm Japanese, I think Korean sounds beautiful-and not just because Sana, Mina, and Takahashi Juri are good at it.

    • @user-kx6rp4nm2n
      @user-kx6rp4nm2n 3 года назад

      @@vaffangool9196 Japanese sounds way better though, there’s just no comparison

  • @getchwaltzetki6022
    @getchwaltzetki6022 5 лет назад +8

    So that's why my friend who lived in Japan for 3 years, can learn korean faster than me, and having more understanding in korean than me.
    But he can't speak Japanese fluently anymore since then. Of course he is not native Japanese

  • @supechube_k
    @supechube_k 3 года назад +7

    im personally learning korean, japanese and french all at the same time and its going really well actually! the only thing going down is my sanity. since my korean improves much faster than the others( and awesome resources like you are part of the reason!😊) i do have to take a break from it and focus on the others from time to time. and progress in japanese has been quite slow lately bcz im having trouble finding extremely useful but free resources and i ofc dont have money to buy resources cuz im still a teenager ( i could literally feel ur respect for me going down as i wrote that part but i swear im not like those kids who just sit down and do duolingo in the toilet expecting to magically become fluent and im actually improving through actual study and immersion) and ive also arrived at the intermediate plateau. french progress is also going quite good im still on the beginner level tho and french has opened my eyes to how hard english is. you'd think french grammar would be easy bcz of its similarity to english but its hard for that same reason. and that combined with my low experience dealing with european languages means that french doesnt really come that easy to me. thats my personal experience learning 3 languages at the same time
    edit: spoke too soon, i dropped french and japanese

    • @unhealow
      @unhealow Год назад

      I recommend the channel Julien Fontanier ! To learn Japanese through French. But the level is still quite low

  • @b.a.p.4718
    @b.a.p.4718 Год назад +1

    I knew someone from the USA who lived in Korea and wanted to study both Japanese and Korean at the same time. He had very ambitious goals: TOPIK Level 6 and JLPT N3 after 3 years of self-studying.
    Unfortunately, I’ve lost contact with him and I am curious to know if he ever succeeded. Knowing how virtually impossible his goals were, I imagined he unfortunately failed because a healthy dose of experience and wisdom has taught me that it’s far easier to say what one will do than to actually do it. 😮‍💨

  • @aimulnwza
    @aimulnwza 4 года назад +3

    I speak Japanese and the Korean learning videos in Japanese really helps me.

  • @cammy64873
    @cammy64873 5 лет назад +7

    Nice! Absolutely right. Once you start learning Korean, all the Japanese goes somewhere else, practice and anime are the keys! 😸

  • @Shiraori999
    @Shiraori999 11 месяцев назад +1

    Many years ago I studied Japanese which I only maintain through youtube and anime nowadays. Now studying Korean I feel like my Japanese is improving even if it's just a lil bit.
    Anyways I see several different benefits going from Japanese to Korean.
    1. You have a better understanding of compound words that comes from china and can more easily figure out unknown compounds while knowing the components.
    2.Starting to freely think and make sentences in a SOV language is difficult coming from SVO and already having done that jump makes it easier doing it again.
    3. Having learned a language like Japanese you undoubtedly get insight into the language learning process and can then do it better with better methods etc.
    4. Also the obvious that they share cognates, similar loan words and grammar forms.
    5. You gain motivation from knowing that it is possible to learn Japanese and so it should be possible doing it again.
    There are more but I think those are the main ones.

    • @GoBillyKorean
      @GoBillyKorean  11 месяцев назад

      Those are all definitely benefits!

  • @mille_tendresse
    @mille_tendresse 5 лет назад +1

    Thank you this is exactly what I needed ☺️ I’ve been learning Japanese for 3 years at uni and I just started learning Korean. I don’t regret studying Japanese because it kind of helps me remember some words in Korean :) hope I won’t confuse them!

  • @OcarinaOftimeFan2020
    @OcarinaOftimeFan2020 5 лет назад +11

    The only Korean you could learn (in my opinion) through Japanese is Zainichi Korean (재일 한국어 or 재일 조선어), which is a weird “dialect” [if you could even call it one] of Koreans and their descendants living in Japan that is heavily influenced by Japanese.

    • @roosters93
      @roosters93 5 лет назад +1

      you can learn any language in Japanese just as you can learn any language in English.
      It just means using textbooks/learning materials written in Japanese about Korean instead of textbooks about Korean written in English.

    • @OcarinaOftimeFan2020
      @OcarinaOftimeFan2020 5 лет назад

      roosters93 Yes, I understand that, but I was inputting my opinion based on the criteria Billy put in the video (being learning Standard Korean through Japanese or vice versa). Now I’d say it’d be a fun experience no doubt, but it’s *very* highly recommended you have an excellent grasp of either Japanese or Korean before you try learning Korean through Japanese or vice versa.

    • @chicoti3
      @chicoti3 3 года назад

      If you understand then why would you make a comment saying one can only learn zainichi korean through Japanese? It makes absolutely no sense.

  • @reihanabi
    @reihanabi 5 лет назад +3

    Unfortunetly, wanting to learn both is where I'm at. I was teaching myself Japanese with nobody that knew it and nobody that was even interested in knowing it for something like 15 years? So I know a lot of random stuff/words but can't actually form a sentence for some reason (I think I could or almost could at one point and then suddenly boom I couldn't...) and I don't want to give up Japanese because I really do love that country. However for the past 3-4 years I've become seriously hooked on Korea as well and really, really want to learn the language - but am in the same boat with it where nobody around me knows it or even wants to know it (seriously.) Soooo I have 2 languages that I really, really want to learn and am bad at self motivation/honestly don't know how to study properly especially when alone (I have ADD it is suuuuper hard for me to focus no matter how much I love the topic) and yeah. Two languages. That I want to learn really well. So that's... my huge pickle... :/

  • @SuAmazing
    @SuAmazing 11 месяцев назад +1

    Billy, someday you plan in making a Japanese Made Simple book series? it would be nice, you explains and teach in a simple way and don't use hard words and terms like 'morphemes' 'Appositive adjectives' or something like that.
    We need a Made Simple book series for every language :D

    • @minjikae
      @minjikae 11 месяцев назад +1

      I agree!

    • @GoBillyKorean
      @GoBillyKorean  11 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you but my Japanese isn't nearly at a high enough of level to feel confident teaching.

  • @margarita.casilda
    @margarita.casilda 5 лет назад +1

    I'm studying korean and japanese at the same time,and help me understand samehow particules..I'm already at 5 chinese curse,,,and like to cpmpare Hanzi,kanji and hanja...very interesting...Thanks for your really good Live Korean every sunday...It's help me a lot.Greetings from Spain.

  • @aline21o85
    @aline21o85 5 лет назад +3

    선생님 정말 감사해요 👍❤❤❤❤

  • @mat_drown
    @mat_drown 5 лет назад +1

    I think what you put forward is interesting although as you stated, I think anyone who reached an advanced enough level of Japanese would highly benefit taking advantage of the many similarities between both languages to help grasp certain grammatical concepts and understand some words and expressions more easily than resorting to whatever native language they speak.

  • @iii52024
    @iii52024 Год назад

    I started learning Japanese before two years because my twin sister was learning korean back then and now I feel like i want to learn korean to communicate with my twin sister in it :''

  • @ackeejag
    @ackeejag 5 лет назад +1

    I think rather than actually reading Korean textbooks in Japanese, the question would more be "Can I use my understanding of Japanese to help me learn korean?" The answer to me seems to be yes because grammar is mostly the same, particles are mostly the same and then there are lots of shared vocab. I can take what I've learned about Japanese and apply it to learning korean and basically skip to the part where I just learn vocab and listening skills.

    • @GoBillyKorean
      @GoBillyKorean  5 лет назад +3

      Yes it's helpful, but if you think that any Japanese particle corresponds 1:1 to any Korean particle, then you'll end up making mistakes. So while it's extremely helpful, you have to be careful too.

  • @disagust9619
    @disagust9619 5 лет назад +2

    I’m happy to be Japanese now!

  • @BlackCatBCB
    @BlackCatBCB 2 года назад

    I actually study Korean through Japanese. Since I live in Tokyo, Korean classes and books are in Japanese. But my Japanese level is high enough to understand complex vocabulary and grammar. Still, I agree with your point of view. Better study one language at the time. I’m from Belgium. I’m not Japanese.

  • @bestrafung2754
    @bestrafung2754 2 года назад

    I think they share a common ancestor, most likely whatever the people who went from Korea to Japan spoke. Most Japanese people are descended from them too. I think they are related but have diverged from each other over thousands of years.

    • @GoBillyKorean
      @GoBillyKorean  2 года назад +1

      There isn't currently any proof that they're related, besides opinions about it. Most of the things people feel make them related are actually just influences, and not due to a shared origin.

  • @J_young_824
    @J_young_824 3 года назад +3

    Korean is much easier than japanese. I'm the opposite of yours. I started learning korean ofcourse my mind is in korean but when i started to learn japanese bcoz of my work i have to throw my korean knowledge. I keep coming back and forth. My japanese skills is N4 and and my korean level is 3. So i guess i have to balance the two languages. I'm really bad at self studying coz i can't follow my own study habits. I'm struggling making my own schedule. 😕

    • @user-kx6rp4nm2n
      @user-kx6rp4nm2n 2 года назад

      Korean isn’t easier though

    • @J_young_824
      @J_young_824 2 года назад

      @@user-kx6rp4nm2n well it depends on the person. But majority of the people i know they say korean is much easier than japanese. Japanese has 3 writing system and the conjugations are more complex.

    • @user-kx6rp4nm2n
      @user-kx6rp4nm2n 2 года назад

      @@J_young_824 How are the conjugations more complex? As far as I know the grammar is very similar, if anything Korean having harder grammar. The pronunciation also is much harder in Korean, which is the most important aspect for becoming fluent. And as for the writing system, memorizing kanji isn’t as hard as people like to make it out to be

    • @J_young_824
      @J_young_824 2 года назад +1

      @@user-kx6rp4nm2n This is my personal opinion that's how it goes for me. it is difficult for me if it was easy for you then it is you not me. We have our own differences and people have their own way of learning things.

  • @akikojindo7330
    @akikojindo7330 4 года назад

    bilingual in japanese and I'm trying to learn Korean rn!

  • @mayonakasymphony2286
    @mayonakasymphony2286 5 лет назад +1

    This may boil down to personal preference but what language, japanese or korean, would be better to learn first if you want to learn both (native english speaker perspective) ?

    • @chicoti3
      @chicoti3 3 года назад

      Probably Japanese, so you'll have kanji/hanja to help you with korean vocabulary. But keep in mind that Japanese is much harder than Korean.

  • @Sakura-zu4rz
    @Sakura-zu4rz 2 года назад

    무궁화 꽃이 피었습니다🦑🇰🇷🇯🇵

  • @roosters93
    @roosters93 5 лет назад +2

    do you have to write in reverse on the board? lol

  • @ar-bks2432
    @ar-bks2432 5 лет назад +1

    안녕하세요 I was want to say I is try learn English by watch u video and is help me I is try learn English for my girlfriend she from America and I is learn for her thank u Billy🙏I watch u videos all time sorry if English my is bad

    • @Shellszs
      @Shellszs 5 лет назад

      전MINT지민 aww 열심히 공부하고 make your 여자친구 proud of you!! (자랑스러운)
      😊 어느 언어로 여자친구에게 이야기해요? (나쁜 한국어미안해요)

    • @ar-bks2432
      @ar-bks2432 5 лет назад

      Sabrina I try speak English to her but is bad

    • @ilikepanama
      @ilikepanama 5 лет назад +1

      I don't speak English very well either, I speak Spanish. But I agree with you that by watching Billy's videos you will improve a lot. I think his English pronunciation is very clear. So don`t give up. 화이팅 !

  • @mawarcahayapelita489
    @mawarcahayapelita489 2 года назад

    I learn Korean using English (my 3rd language) and I’m not even that fluent in English lol I just know what verb stem means when I learn Korean 😂

  • @destroyer7712
    @destroyer7712 2 года назад

    I was thinking of learning Korean through Japanese but I don't want to lose Japanese in the process. When you said your Japanese went down, do you mean your ability or your progress in learning? Did this problem arise from learning Korean in Japanese specifically or just from learning two languages at once? If you don't have difficulty understanding explanations in Japanese, would it be ok to use it to learn Korean then? Sorry for so many questions

    • @GoBillyKorean
      @GoBillyKorean  2 года назад +1

      I mean all of my Japanese went down, but it was mostly my usage of it more than my understanding. These days I can still understand a good portion of what I used to be able to (around an intermediate level), but I can't speak much at all. The reason is simply because I wasn't using Japanese as much anymore, and not specifically because I went to Korean.

    • @destroyer7712
      @destroyer7712 2 года назад

      @@GoBillyKorean I appreciate the quick reply, thank you! :)

  • @nathanaelnapitupulu5793
    @nathanaelnapitupulu5793 4 года назад

    Legit picked up japanese from watching japanese vines, comp of ads, and anime.

  • @LambruscoPeter
    @LambruscoPeter Год назад

    I learn Korean thru English instead of my native language

  • @yobro6962
    @yobro6962 4 года назад +2

    is anyone else impressed by all the backward writing comon

    • @GoBillyKorean
      @GoBillyKorean  4 года назад +1

      ;) ruclips.net/video/2mf03HhlE6E/видео.html

  • @user-fx6km7ej1x
    @user-fx6km7ej1x 11 месяцев назад

    Please teach us some Japanese Billy, thank you.

  • @jcxkzhgco3050
    @jcxkzhgco3050 3 года назад

    Oh well my native language doesn’t have resources for Korean and I’m not a incredible English speaker

  • @yobro6962
    @yobro6962 4 года назад

    japanese speaker learning korean aye

  • @Trisonss
    @Trisonss 5 лет назад

    Yayois are basically people moving from Korean peninsula and so the ancient Korean words are same as ancient Japanese words like 500 crucial words. Say angko the filling inside a rice cake also means 안에꺼 something inside in Korean. Anyways because od the extreme similarity in grammer Koreans/Japnese can learn eachother language faster than they would of other language however it is harder for Japanese people to pronounce Korean words but it is easy for Koreans to pronounce Japanese.

    • @skywindtakeshi1557
      @skywindtakeshi1557 4 года назад

      Wrong. Yayoi are Japonic people from eastern China which migrated into the Peninsula in 1500 BC. Proto-Koreans are from Manchuria and started to migrate also into the Peninsula. This event caused the Yayoi migration into Japan. The Yayoi displaced the outnumbered Jōmon tribes. Modern Japanese are in average 97% Yayoi by DNA. But there were still Peninsular Japanese in the Peninsula which coexisted with the early Koreans. They were slowly assimilated. Thus we see peninsular Japanese influence in Koreans, such as words for rice cultivation.

    • @vaffangool9196
      @vaffangool9196 3 года назад

      @@skywindtakeshi1557
      *It's called Japonic* because that's where the people and languages ended up, not because they were somehow already Japanese. The archipelago was first settled by Austronesian Jōmon, then by Yayoi of northeast Asian descent via the Korean peninsula. Yamato Japanese are a combination of the two but overwhelmingly we are descended from people who last lived in Korea before crossing to Kyushu and spreading out-assimilating Jōmon along the way, or displacing them until all that was left was the far northern Ainu and the far southern Okinawans.