That episode of Voyager was a call out to the father of all space operas "The Lensman" series by E.E. Doc Smith. The Dauntless was the two mile long intergalactic super-dreadnought that was built for the "Gray Lensman" Kimball Kinnison. It could cruse at 90 parsecs per hour inside the Milky Way, and could make the trip to the Andromeda galaxy in two weeks. They also used the name "Admiral Haynes" who was the officer that Kinnison reported to, but as a Gray Lensman he was a free agent accountable to no one. Haynes was the one who commissioned the ship to be built. The ship had "cosmic energy receptors" and an inertia-less drive. It was also the first Galactic Patrol vessel to be equipped with "Primary" beams and was refitted to use superconductors for power distribution.
@@VladSWG I think you'll enjoy the stories a lot. Also check out "The Skylark of Space" series. Bear in mind these were written in the 30s and 40s and have some socially offensive or backward content by today's standards. But I think you will be shocked by just how many of the ideas and concepts the Doc Smith created have become reality: Lasers, Anti-matter, super-conductors, cosmic energy receptors (zero-point energy), and the C.I.C. The US NAVY created the CIC directly based on the the description in one of his stories. They realized that ships and fleets really needed a way to coordinate the information coming from all of the new sources (radio, sonar, and radar) and create a tactical map of the theater to allow command and control. He even envisioned the two most weapons ever: the nut-cracker and the sun-beam.
@@Gryffster Most of the SF before the 50s is really badly written. We have John Campbell the editor of Analog magazine to thank for raising the bar from pulp fiction to what we expect now. I remember reading E.R. Burroughs as a kid and being very disappointed in the quality of the writing. Also, his later books (the family deLambert) were largely ghost written and almost impossible for me to read.
@@waynecampeau4566 I guess they were mostly written for periodicals. I was disappointed when re-reading them just how cringeworthy the writing was, because some of the basic ideas have merit, and the scope of the series (in terms of time and space) is huge!
You and you’re channel are so refreshing. I use to follow another unnamed channel, but the duo are constantly negative and rude to anyone with a different opinion. I appreciate how you state facts and even if you may have a not so positive remark, you keep it lively. Thank you for what you do and your hard work.
Thanks Jamie! Really appreciate the lovey words 🖖❤️ We’ll always be fair and critical where and when we want, but nothing wrong with being positive and celebrating the franchise we love! - Jack
I've always believed that Arturis simply intercepted information from Starfleet and coopted it, also he had programmable matter in his possession as his race was more advanced, so he could have simply recreated what was already a Starfleet design. I have no evidence :P I can't WAIT to see what happens next in Prodigy!!!
@@aeonjoey3d Voyager had survived in slipstream for several hours without the structural reinforcement to the hull. What should had been done was reinforce the ship's hull to make it look like the Dauntless class. Instead, they "improved" the regular slipstream tech into "Quantum Slipstream" by using Borg's Transwarp deflector tech to offset the structural stress to the hull. I was hoping that Janeway would had used the Vesta class.
@@Exaris79 Actually, in the first encounter with Arturis, VOY crew managed to modify VOY itself with QS drive, however, it couldn't stay in the Slipstream at the time for more than 1 hour due to Quantum Stressess that battered the hull - at the maximum speed, it was capable of 300 Ly's per hour... however, in the fake message VOY received, it was stated that the crew would have to remain in Slipstream on the Dauntless for 3 full months to reach the Federation (which was 60 000 Ly's away)... which indicates that like Warp drive, the fake Dauntless had a sustainable cruising speed and a maximum speed. The sustainable speed was much lower at about 27.777 Ly's per hour and this could be used almost indefinitely... whereas the maximum speed was at 300 Ly's per hour - and while VOY was limited to 1 hour at maximum speed in the Slipstream, I suspect the fake Dauntless (because it was designed with slipstream in mind) could sustain that speed for about 12 hrs. 4 to 6 months after this encounter, VOY crew remade the QS drive by creating a Quantum Matrix, Benamite crysytals, Borg technology and this version was faster than the original (topping out at 10 000 Ly's per minute). While this version didn't have a problem with quantum stresses battering the hull (or at least that wasn't mentioned - or the Structural integrity was modified to better withstand Slipstream), it DID have a problem with a phase variance which occurred 17 seconds into the flight (per the dialogue)... so, that doesn't leave much time for VOY to be thrown out of Slipstream and I think the maximum the ship was able to hold inside Slipstream was for 1 minute (which, after Kim changed history, allowed the ship to traverse 10 000 Ly's). EDIT: the first version of QS drive as used by the fake Dauntless was also never mentioned that it needed or used Benamite Crystals.
I always felt like the writers were telling us in this episode how things would go if the Borg were to assimilate Humanity. A species good at avoiding assimilation until the Borg send a large fleet (a question many fans ask why they don't to Earth) and close in until they swarm the planet. It just felt like a warning at the very least that even with success, Humanity is far from safe. It was the ONE moment in Voyager the Borg were something to fear.
After 7 years in the Delta Quadrant, I think Admiral Janeway is very happy to have a desk job at Starfleet Headquarters and that she is at Janeway Farm on the weekends to spend time with Gretchen and Phoebe. My need for adventures would be satisfied after 7 years in the Delta Quadrant.
You realize of course that Trek humans are explorers. They live in a completely different environment than we do, and as such, I don't think Janeway would have enough of exploration from just being in the Delta Quadrant for 7 years. Janeway would likely get bored with a desk job - which can be common... but the good thing about being an admiral you et to pick your own command. I suspect that Janeway would have no interest in a simple desk job... she'd likely be out in the field more time than being stationary (after spending the first 6 months to maybe a year with her family - but beyond that point, I don't think Janeway would want to remain on a simple desk job). In fact, in ST: Prodigy, she commands the SF made USS Dauntless in search of Chakotay. Janeway menitoned in one of her logs that B'eLanna Torres was the lead in the project for making the SF built Dauntless... its probable that out of most propulsion technologies VOY encountered, Slipstream was the most promising as the VOY crew ALMOST got it to work (and I suspect having resources in Starfleet would be much easier in ironing out the remaining bugs in the drive), so I wouldn't be surprised if Janeway was the one who spearheaded development of the Dauntless.
The NX at the start of a ship means Navel Experiment... It goes onto any first of the class star ship. NX Excelsior, NX Defiant, DX Galaxy, NX intrepid... Are all basis for the class of ship... The NX-01 has obviously gotten renamed into a class and was given a new designation after its experimental phase not the NX-01 Dauntless predecessor... Regardless if whether it's a fake or not.
Frankly, the NX part of the originals registry is the only thing about it that makes sense. Regardless of how much utter nonsense the registry NX-01-A (or NX-01A) is. But the NX part is irrelevant in the end as the original Dauntless wasn't an experimental Starfleet ship, the registry prefix was simply fluff to make the ship look more legitimate. Even calling that fraud the Dauntless Class is disingenuous, it's just an unnamed alien ship Starfleet copied.
@@vegeta002 I was more correcting the guy in the video saying the dauntless is the successor to the Nx-01 Enterprise. Regardless the dauntless being alien.
Sort of, but not quite. First in class doesn't usually mean an NX designation. NX is used for ships that might not even become a class as they are unsure of the design fitness. If a first in class is designed around accepted standards and technology it doesn't get an NX designation. There was no NX-Galaxy or NX-intrepid both were NCC, that's established in cannon. Also NX-02 was Columbia and was the second in the class after enterprise.
@@BenEllick First in class actually does usually mean NX, as while there may be exceptions, the first is usually also the prototype of the class (aka first working model, used for trial runs). The "accepted standards and technology" at the time doesn't mean much as the prototype isn't field testing the tech, it's field testing the ship to make sure there's no major design flaws and that everything's working as intended before full-scale production starts. And considering it has been established in canon that prototype ships start with an NX registry but get a standard NCC registry when they're commissioned, the Galaxy having an NCC registry when it appeared doesn't actually prove anything.
Enterprise E was designed to be one of the fastest in the fleet, minus any delta quadrant enhancements, Voyager is warp 9.975, Enterprise E is warp 9.995
The proxima class(assuming you mean the ship from star trek legacy) would be really cool to see again, especially in a next generation style, would need to be designed right to look good though, but the potential for what it could do is pretty diverse, would honestly have been really cool to see them during the Dominion war, the dual hangar bay set up would have been amazing for being fleet carriers with squadrons of fighters, and the capacity for double warp cores and alot of extra space serving to really beef up its defenses and allow it to run troop transport and medical missions.
Dauntless I was was a prototype with very few amenities. No weapons, replicators, holodecks or a fast warp drive. When Star Fleet built the Dauntless II it's no surprise they changed the design and added these and other features to make the ship easier to serve on. Thus the new design. I wonder if it's just as fast in slipstreem mode... or maybe a bit faster. You know engineers, they love to change things.
I don't like the open looking area in the aft (rear) section of the cone shaped saucer. The fake Dauntless looked like a sea creature that can handle any liquid environment (keep that in mind Species 8472...cough cough, the Undine lol). Having that section open like that breaks up the smooth look but who knows, maybe it'll serve some cool new function and it'll make much more sense at that point! 😁
Star Trek Prodigy Is a good show. Only saw 1's Episode, But I like The Whole New Approach. IT'S Different. That's What Star Trek Is All About. Keepem Comming. 👍😎
Did they actually invent a copy of the slipstream drive? If so, good for them! I just don't know if it's faster or slower than a transwarp drive. Oh, and I saw Janeway's rank insignias, and I was thinking 3-star (vice) admiral, but I wasn't sure.
Thanks, I was wondering about that...but that thing Barkley did when the Cytherians (sp?) made him super intelligent...I nicknamed that "slingshot drive". It's extremely dangerous, but it can get you anywhere almost instantly. 😄 But I agree with you, transwarp drive is better than slipstream.
I always figure Hope and Fear took place in the timeline before the Borg and Enterprise went back in time in First Contact. Before Cochrane met Riker and The gang and learned their ship was called Enterprise. Perhaps Archer’s NX-01 was called Dauntless in this timeline. Considering no one on Voyager was taken aback by the registry number.
I liked the first season. Pretty good. I do want to see some live-action series in that timeframe tho. Prior to the events of Picard. Its totally possible given how big the galaxy is.
the new one is not as nice as the fake orignal one. its probably because the star fleet slip stream drive is not on par with the original. so its a compromise to be able to run as effectively as possible with the slip stream drive but still operate the warp drive as standard when "slip stream cruse" is not used
Good evening Captain Jack, I thank you for sharing your thoughts on this ship. I don't like the look of this ship FROM THE OUT SIDE. IF IT WAS THE SAME as in Voyager I would still not like it BUT I won't hate it. I do like the interior of the ship because it is very close to the FAKE USS Dauntless.
from watching the prodigy my impression of the new dauntless is that it's much bigger and from remembering voyager the Dauntless Spec. they scanned were up to starfleet standards so even if they were scanning an illusion it was a believable illusion and they just recreated it
My personal opinion is that this "new" Dauntless is even uglier than the "original" one.. but I guess it gets the job done. Love the bridge interior though - always thought that that would be a good look for future Starfleet ships - a few more consoles (with seating) would be nice, though :-)
C'mon , look at the hype generated from one ship in a animated show. Its tells me people want the og timeline. But it would have been funny if Janeway sent them a new Defiant class. As younger cadets love to kill , or get killed in them.
Yup. If it's not Roddenberry Verse Trek then it's not Star Trek. Picard, Discovery and Prodigy are all pale, cheap imitations. Lower Decks is okay because it is the most Roddenberry Verse.
An admiral, at least in the real US Navy, does not command a ship. The Admiral commands the fleet, but the regular Captain retains command of the ship. A flagship usually has enhanced communications to allow coordination of the fleet. There is often a separate Admiral's Bridge that has the equipment like map tables and charts for the Admiral to plan strategies and develop tactics, which is ideally left sealed closed unless in use, though I expect in reality it becomes storage space for ship supplies during normal, Admiral-free operations.. The ship cannot be controlled from the Admiral's Bridge, if present, but the additional comm systems do route there. Ship sensors like RADAR wouod have repeaters on the Admiral's Bridge. The Admiral, as a courtesy, is not supposed to even enter the main Bridge uninvited, as its reserved for ship command personnel. A smart CO, of course, extends the invitation promptly. The Admiral usually visits while the ship is first underway when all is routine and a flag officer's presence isn't a distraction. The Admiral will have a personal staff, but will invite the ship CO to join "as your duties allow", just so the the ship commander has knowledge of the main plan and how the flagship can best fit them. This is touched on in Star Trek TOS movies...Kirk takes his flag to the Enterprise, but also takes command from Decker, which creates tension between the two. Later, when Spock is Captain, Kirk explicitly states Spock retains command of the ship, while he, Kirk, commands the mission. Spock voluntarily hands command to Kirk.
@@MGower4465 true like a carrier, but other navy's do and in the past admirals did command flagships in American navy, all navy's had a captain as well but he answered to the admiral. The admiral usually commands the entire battle group of escorts, although in ww2 for example us navy had a rear admiral command escorts from a cruiser and a more senior admiral ( vice admiral) the carrier ( but its still a flagship ) even today, its just a division of responsibilities . In other navy's its like the captain is the xo , sort of . ( British, Japanese French, German fir example)
@@MGower4465 oh yes i believe the admiral usually is in the cic ( combat information centre) but there are more than one bridge. But admirals in the field have ships ( admiral ross ds9 ) apparently intrepid class or excelsior class were popular with admirals, also admiral Hansen in best of both worlds or riker in all good things. And janeway in dauntless.
A "flagship" is actually just whichever vessel the Flag Officer happens to be occupying...there's nothing else inherently special or unique about them. During World War II, both America and Japan had Flag Officers that chose to "fly their flag" on Cruisers and even Destroyers...even though they had Carriers or Battleships in their battle groups. Whatever ship Janeway travels on...be it the Dauntless or a Danube Class Runabout...her Flag is "transferred" and that vessel becomes Janeway's Flagship.
Going into extreme nerdville here, but a ships registry is a very rough and inaccurate way of guessing when it was launched. NCC stands for naval construction contract. So if a contract is awarded to build the Dauntless the project is given a contract number, which then becomes the ships registration number. It might prove a complicated build and even if a contract to build a Nova class or a Luna class is awarded a year or two after the work on the Dauntless began, because they are comparatively easier ships to build that the yards could finish blindfolded, they might be launched earlier and Dauntless with its lower registration number ends up getting launched much later. This is why the lower registration numbers on the Cross field class ships compared to those on the Constitutions didn't really bother me since it must have taken a hell of a lot longer to build them, especially with 23rd Century tech.
_sigh_ no, NCC does _not_ stand for Naval Construction Contract. NCC was created as a registry code by Matt Jeffries combining the "N" used for American aircraft (at the time) with the CCCC used for Soviet aircraft, thus "NCC". All it means is "Federation Starfleet starship", just as "NCIA" and "NI" were used for Section 31 starships, the Vulcan Merchant Fleet used NSP, another Federation prefix was NAR, and so on. "Naval Construction Contract" was a fanon creation started, I think, by Franz Joseph, and quite clearly does _not_ have anything to do with contracts at all, because then NCC-1701-A, -B, -C, -D, and -E would make no sense.
true, should have probably mentioned it since the design has changed, so maybe the design is iterative and will eventually look like the fake one? though we did mention it in our dedicated Dauntless Class NX-01-A video a couple of months back
Based on your review, do we believe Chekote was the original captain of the Protostar. Would make sense as Admiral Janeway goes searching for her former N1. With both Chekote and the Protostar (an experimental ship with a training hologram of Janeway’s likeness) being lost in the Delta quadrant, the odds are more than coincidental. Who else would Admiral Janeway entrust such an important undertaking???
I honestly think the Voyager did the quadrant a disservice by letting the borg assimilate that man and his ship; YOU KNOW they got one helluva power-boost in intel and technology from that assimilation.
I love this break down video. I would like to add that I am already working on special story featuring continuing voyages of starfleet into the greater galaxy and decided to add this very version of the USA U.S.S. Dial Wes and the U.S.S. protostar to my series which is entitled Star Trek the fifth generation it’s companion series entitled Star Trek deep space 13 and Star Trek Galactica for the prime universe please be prepared to add further information to the U.S.S. dauntless.
registries in star trek have often been a bit fuzzy, they generally go up with launch date but not always, names usually follow the registry but not always. I dont think much stock should be put in using the number as 'this is the 1 thousand 7 hundred and first ship made by starfleet'
He didn't blame voyager for the assimilation of his people, he blamed voyager for helping the Borg defeat species 8472 which was about to crush the Borg.
When Trekyards reviewed the msd for this ship, it looked like there was a miscommunication. The window placement makes it look 2 or 3 times bigger than the msd. Wtf ?
Do you think it has the armour from End Game? Surprised Enterprise did not have it for Nemesis - perhaps its reserved for next refits or as secret weapon?
Going into extreme nerdville here, but a ships registry is a very rough and inaccurate way of guessing when it was launched. NCC stands for naval construction contract. So if a contract is awarded to build the Dauntless the project is given a contract number, which then becomes the ships registration number. It might prove a complicated build and even if a contract to build a Nova class or a Luna class is awarded a year or two after the work on the Dauntless began, because they are comparatively easier ships to build that the yards could finish blindfolded, they might be launched earlier and Dauntless with its lower registration number ends up getting launched much later.
Mostly spot on, though played fast and loose with, since once a name is assigned, the NCC Registration tends to reside with the name (so long as the moniker remains in "continuous" service) and an alphabetical suffix is added for tracking purposes through the system. So, while what you said is initially true, NCC has morphed over time to simply be a catch-all denoting a Starfleet (not Federation) vessel...not to be confused with any warp-capable, combat ready Starfleet Vessel which also receives a "U.S.S." moniker (United/Unified Starfleet Service) to differentiate them from the early "home fleets" of the Vulcans, Andorians, and Tellerites. In short, all Starfleet Vessels are NCCs, but not all Starfleet Vessels are U.S.S.s.
@@digitalis2977 What I don't get is, when they were making DS9, they knew full well there was a starfleet ship called Defiant, and they were well aware.of the NCC number and A,B,C, tradition, yet the Defiant has a totally different NCC number than NX-1764-A.
@@positronicfeed Well, firstly, the "new new" Defiant could never be NX anything because it was the renamed U.S.S. Sao Paulo...a production line vessel, not a "Naval Experiment" vessel, so it would receive an NCC designation. Secondly, when referring to the TOS Defiant, again it would not receive an NCC designation because it is an NX vessel. Lastly, that's why I said "continuous service"; Starfleet *DOES* recycle Names and Registry numbers (although not together, or else an Alphabetical Suffix is attached) or else registry numbers would be into the billions by the time of DS9 instead of simply the tens of thousands. The Constitution Class Defiant was short-lived, did nothing major of note (other than disappearing into interspace in the Tholian Sector) and by all canonical accounts, was retired until the NX project that spawned the "new" Defiant. So... 1. The "new" Defiant would not receive the 1764 registry number because it was an NX Vessel which operates off a completely different yet parallel registry system. 2. The NCC-1764, since not famous/infamous or historical enough to be retired (like the NX/NCC-01 Enterprise and NX/NCC-02 Columbia...although you'll notice both names continued a long legacy under different registries) it is highly likely that it is already assigned to another Starfleet Vessel from the Inactive Pool while the name Defiant was not (as was also traditional during TOS days when a ship disappeared, as Humans still had equal parts Hope that the vessel would reappear, and Superstition that the name was somehow Cursed and if a new vessel were to use the name too soon, the same fate would befall the new ship as befell the old one; therefore, if a ship simply disappeared with no trace, it wasn't uncommon for the Registry and Name to be "inactivated" for 50 years or more.)
@@digitalis2977 And the reason they didn't name the new new Defiant 'Defiant A' was because it was going to be too costly to repaint a model just for a few episodes. 😂
@@positronicfeed In reality...probably, but in actuality...maybe? They technically *DID* repaint and minorly redesign the model to reflect changes in the production model of the Defiant Class. The "Special Dispensation" from Star Fleet wasn't technically to change the name and registry (something Starfleet does with frequency with ships reactivated from mothball fleets whether a new ship with the same name and/or registry has been commissioned or not) but because of notable service and the Space Wizardry of one Chief Miles O'Brien all but ensuring that the renamed Sao Paulo would continue to be an experimental test bed for new concepts and technologies for the Defiant Class as a whole. Also, there was the consideration of admitting officially to the destruction of the NX Defiant...something that would have been a major propaganda win for the Cardassians in particular and the Dominion in general; much easier to deny rumors and make the Cardassian rank-and-file question the official narrative if a ship that looks the same in passing has the same registry number and transponder is still uncloaking everywhere and blowing everything up.
Which ship was reproduced? The StarFleet version or the original ship with Alien Tech? And how can you reproduce something that never really existed in the first place?
tl:dr: Species 166: We faked a starfleet vessel so as to ruin the lives of the Voyager crew! Starfleet: Hey, that's a pretty slick design! *steals design*
I think it would have been easy for starfleet to reverse engineer considering they already developed most of the tech about a century earlier with the vengeance (dreadnought class) starship
When i first seen the bridge at first i thought it was the Prometheus class but i quickly realized it didnt look right for that ship then we see the hull then i was lile oh ok its the fake Starfleet ship that you talked about
@@DavidKnowles0 Thats not what I meant. The guy in the video said, that the "-A" in the dauntle's regystry (NX-01-A)would mean that it would be an NX-Enterprise refit. Wich it isn't. But following his logic, all Enterprises should have bin refits from the OG 1701. Wich they aren't
@@DavidKnowles0 the Enterprise A was a totally different ship. The 1701 was refit in TMP but it was still the 1701. The A was a different ship that replaced it after the 1701 was destroyed.
Dauntless is a BEYOND terrible design as I truly don't know what the designer was thinking? USS Emmitt Till or Sovereign Class though? Now those were BEYOND beautifully designed Star Ships!
What does aerodynamics of a ship have anything to do with traveling through Space? Borg vessels are shaped like cubes,so it proves aerodynamics has nothing to do with how fast a ship can travel.
Borg ships use transwarp, not slipstream. Warp drive or transwarp conduits operate in a vacuum, so the shape of the ship is irrelevant. The slipstream drive is very well named, as the ship is riding the "slipstream" like a surfer on a wave. The aerodynamics (or perhaps "hydrodynamics") of the ship have a lot to do with how many particles the ship has to push it's way through and how much force it takes to push through them, like an aircraft pushing itself through the air. See the actual episode of Voyager where the drive is introduced. It gives a good explanation of the particle physics involved.
Do any *actual* children watch Star Trek: Prodigy? Or is it just old adults watching Prodigy, and talking about it on their RUclips channels? This show is meant for kids, but when I asked my young child cousins about Prodigy, they said it was boring and didn't want to watch it.
Non-aerodynamic profile? Dude, the USS Voyager has the most aerodynamic profile a starship can dream of. What's wrong with it's saucer section? It's not as pointy as the Dauntless may be, but it's far from "non-aerodynamic" profile of the individual Enterprises, non of which had any idea of aerodynamics to them ever (as much I loved any Enterprise, they aren't really aerodynamic in any sense of that word).
I do not think aerodynamics have anything to do with it. Aerodynamics are what is used for vehicles that operate in an atmosphere. I think in space it would simply come down to technology and the strength of the structure of your ships. It really does not matter the shape of them as the Borg have proven. I am sure with the right deflector settings the Entetprise D, Voyager hell even the NX-Enterprise of Archers could easily do slipstream speeds as long as all the stress is kept away from there hull. So ye thats Bull about aerodynamics.
Star Trek explores the idea that generating a slipstream corridor requires more power than forming warp fields. Power is directly related to the frontal geometry of a vessel and lesser to the overall ship geometry. As such, slipstream propelled ships are generally narrow and compact, with aerodynamic lines.
okay Cadet let's not forget multi-phasic torpedoes an ablative armor that's what they brought back when Admiral Janeway went back in time to save the Voyager do you research Cadets dismissed
I'm going to be honest here: the Dauntless is, in my opinion, an abomination of a ship. Sorry. It seems as if they tried to mix the designs of the Voyager and the SeaQuest DSV into one ship.
The command chair needs a cup holder…
I always thought the same.
Make it so!
and seatbelts
Thank you Mr Tucker that will be all
Janeway's mug is a 200 year old starfleet mug, a family heirloom.
That episode of Voyager was a call out to the father of all space operas "The Lensman" series by E.E. Doc Smith. The Dauntless was the two mile long intergalactic super-dreadnought that was built for the "Gray Lensman" Kimball Kinnison. It could cruse at 90 parsecs per hour inside the Milky Way, and could make the trip to the Andromeda galaxy in two weeks. They also used the name "Admiral Haynes" who was the officer that Kinnison reported to, but as a Gray Lensman he was a free agent accountable to no one. Haynes was the one who commissioned the ship to be built. The ship had "cosmic energy receptors" and an inertia-less drive. It was also the first Galactic Patrol vessel to be equipped with "Primary" beams and was refitted to use superconductors for power distribution.
I looked it up and it seems super interesting. Thanks for the info 👍
@@VladSWG I think you'll enjoy the stories a lot. Also check out "The Skylark of Space" series. Bear in mind these were written in the 30s and 40s and have some socially offensive or backward content by today's standards. But I think you will be shocked by just how many of the ideas and concepts the Doc Smith created have become reality: Lasers, Anti-matter, super-conductors, cosmic energy receptors (zero-point energy), and the C.I.C. The US NAVY created the CIC directly based on the the description in one of his stories. They realized that ships and fleets really needed a way to coordinate the information coming from all of the new sources (radio, sonar, and radar) and create a tactical map of the theater to allow command and control. He even envisioned the two most weapons ever: the nut-cracker and the sun-beam.
I read the series as a teen. I recently re-read a few of the books. His writing doesn't stand up well.
@@Gryffster Most of the SF before the 50s is really badly written. We have John Campbell the editor of Analog magazine to thank for raising the bar from pulp fiction to what we expect now. I remember reading E.R. Burroughs as a kid and being very disappointed in the quality of the writing. Also, his later books (the family deLambert) were largely ghost written and almost impossible for me to read.
@@waynecampeau4566 I guess they were mostly written for periodicals. I was disappointed when re-reading them just how cringeworthy the writing was, because some of the basic ideas have merit, and the scope of the series (in terms of time and space) is huge!
You and you’re channel are so refreshing. I use to follow another unnamed channel, but the duo are constantly negative and rude to anyone with a different opinion. I appreciate how you state facts and even if you may have a not so positive remark, you keep it lively. Thank you for what you do and your hard work.
Thanks Jamie! Really appreciate the lovey words 🖖❤️
We’ll always be fair and critical where and when we want, but nothing wrong with being positive and celebrating the franchise we love!
- Jack
WIsh they have used the USS Prometheus on this one. We definetely haven't got enough of her on screen.
Meh, that's a very silly ship.
@@tedwojtasik8781 It doesn’t have to separate all the time but it does have call backs to Voyager.
@Dan Calzacorta Because I think it is, that's why. Now you are being silly too ;-)
I've always believed that Arturis simply intercepted information from Starfleet and coopted it, also he had programmable matter in his possession as his race was more advanced, so he could have simply recreated what was already a Starfleet design. I have no evidence :P I can't WAIT to see what happens next in Prodigy!!!
or... maybe reconstructing the ship's shape was essential to recreating the slipstream technology so might be why it's so similar?
Or Federation just liked the ship design, and created the real thing.
@@aeonjoey3d Voyager had survived in slipstream for several hours without the structural reinforcement to the hull. What should had been done was reinforce the ship's hull to make it look like the Dauntless class. Instead, they "improved" the regular slipstream tech into "Quantum Slipstream" by using Borg's Transwarp deflector tech to offset the structural stress to the hull. I was hoping that Janeway would had used the Vesta class.
@@Exaris79 Actually, in the first encounter with Arturis, VOY crew managed to modify VOY itself with QS drive, however, it couldn't stay in the Slipstream at the time for more than 1 hour due to Quantum Stressess that battered the hull - at the maximum speed, it was capable of 300 Ly's per hour... however, in the fake message VOY received, it was stated that the crew would have to remain in Slipstream on the Dauntless for 3 full months to reach the Federation (which was 60 000 Ly's away)... which indicates that like Warp drive, the fake Dauntless had a sustainable cruising speed and a maximum speed. The sustainable speed was much lower at about 27.777 Ly's per hour and this could be used almost indefinitely... whereas the maximum speed was at 300 Ly's per hour - and while VOY was limited to 1 hour at maximum speed in the Slipstream, I suspect the fake Dauntless (because it was designed with slipstream in mind) could sustain that speed for about 12 hrs.
4 to 6 months after this encounter, VOY crew remade the QS drive by creating a Quantum Matrix, Benamite crysytals, Borg technology and this version was faster than the original (topping out at 10 000 Ly's per minute).
While this version didn't have a problem with quantum stresses battering the hull (or at least that wasn't mentioned - or the Structural integrity was modified to better withstand Slipstream), it DID have a problem with a phase variance which occurred 17 seconds into the flight (per the dialogue)... so, that doesn't leave much time for VOY to be thrown out of Slipstream and I think the maximum the ship was able to hold inside Slipstream was for 1 minute (which, after Kim changed history, allowed the ship to traverse 10 000 Ly's).
EDIT: the first version of QS drive as used by the fake Dauntless was also never mentioned that it needed or used Benamite Crystals.
I always felt like the writers were telling us in this episode how things would go if the Borg were to assimilate Humanity. A species good at avoiding assimilation until the Borg send a large fleet (a question many fans ask why they don't to Earth) and close in until they swarm the planet. It just felt like a warning at the very least that even with success, Humanity is far from safe. It was the ONE moment in Voyager the Borg were something to fear.
After 7 years in the Delta Quadrant, I think Admiral Janeway is very happy to have a desk job at Starfleet Headquarters and that she is at Janeway Farm on the weekends to spend time with Gretchen and Phoebe. My need for adventures would be satisfied after 7 years in the Delta Quadrant.
You realize of course that Trek humans are explorers. They live in a completely different environment than we do, and as such, I don't think Janeway would have enough of exploration from just being in the Delta Quadrant for 7 years.
Janeway would likely get bored with a desk job - which can be common... but the good thing about being an admiral you et to pick your own command.
I suspect that Janeway would have no interest in a simple desk job... she'd likely be out in the field more time than being stationary (after spending the first 6 months to maybe a year with her family - but beyond that point, I don't think Janeway would want to remain on a simple desk job).
In fact, in ST: Prodigy, she commands the SF made USS Dauntless in search of Chakotay.
Janeway menitoned in one of her logs that B'eLanna Torres was the lead in the project for making the SF built Dauntless... its probable that out of most propulsion technologies VOY encountered, Slipstream was the most promising as the VOY crew ALMOST got it to work (and I suspect having resources in Starfleet would be much easier in ironing out the remaining bugs in the drive), so I wouldn't be surprised if Janeway was the one who spearheaded development of the Dauntless.
The NX at the start of a ship means Navel Experiment... It goes onto any first of the class star ship. NX Excelsior, NX Defiant, DX Galaxy, NX intrepid... Are all basis for the class of ship... The NX-01 has obviously gotten renamed into a class and was given a new designation after its experimental phase not the NX-01 Dauntless predecessor... Regardless if whether it's a fake or not.
This
Frankly, the NX part of the originals registry is the only thing about it that makes sense. Regardless of how much utter nonsense the registry NX-01-A (or NX-01A) is.
But the NX part is irrelevant in the end as the original Dauntless wasn't an experimental Starfleet ship, the registry prefix was simply fluff to make the ship look more legitimate. Even calling that fraud the Dauntless Class is disingenuous, it's just an unnamed alien ship Starfleet copied.
@@vegeta002 I was more correcting the guy in the video saying the dauntless is the successor to the Nx-01 Enterprise. Regardless the dauntless being alien.
Sort of, but not quite. First in class doesn't usually mean an NX designation. NX is used for ships that might not even become a class as they are unsure of the design fitness. If a first in class is designed around accepted standards and technology it doesn't get an NX designation. There was no NX-Galaxy or NX-intrepid both were NCC, that's established in cannon. Also NX-02 was Columbia and was the second in the class after enterprise.
@@BenEllick First in class actually does usually mean NX, as while there may be exceptions, the first is usually also the prototype of the class (aka first working model, used for trial runs). The "accepted standards and technology" at the time doesn't mean much as the prototype isn't field testing the tech, it's field testing the ship to make sure there's no major design flaws and that everything's working as intended before full-scale production starts.
And considering it has been established in canon that prototype ships start with an NX registry but get a standard NCC registry when they're commissioned, the Galaxy having an NCC registry when it appeared doesn't actually prove anything.
I guess it's only a matter a time before Riker gets command of the Lollypop...
That original version (NCC-80816) was alot smoother than the duplicate one Federation creation. However, they both have their plus side aspects.
The Dauntless is power in these stars true enough, but there's no ship what can match the Voyager for speed.
Enterprise E was designed to be one of the fastest in the fleet, minus any delta quadrant enhancements, Voyager is warp 9.975, Enterprise E is warp 9.995
I'd like to see an all new version of the proxima class starships...and breakdown of them
The proxima class(assuming you mean the ship from star trek legacy) would be really cool to see again, especially in a next generation style, would need to be designed right to look good though, but the potential for what it could do is pretty diverse, would honestly have been really cool to see them during the Dominion war, the dual hangar bay set up would have been amazing for being fleet carriers with squadrons of fighters, and the capacity for double warp cores and alot of extra space serving to really beef up its defenses and allow it to run troop transport and medical missions.
And I'd like to see younger Janeway in her underwear, but alas, it will never happen.
Dauntless I was was a prototype with very few amenities. No weapons, replicators, holodecks or a fast warp drive. When Star Fleet built the Dauntless II it's no surprise they changed the design and added these and other features to make the ship easier to serve on. Thus the new design. I wonder if it's just as fast in slipstreem mode... or maybe a bit faster. You know engineers, they love to change things.
Glad the Dauntless has plenty of Coffee. ☕
I don't like the open looking area in the aft (rear) section of the cone shaped saucer. The fake Dauntless looked like a sea creature that can handle any liquid environment (keep that in mind Species 8472...cough cough, the Undine lol).
Having that section open like that breaks up the smooth look but who knows, maybe it'll serve some cool new function and it'll make much more sense at that point! 😁
It's horrible.
Looks like a fledgling buzzard with a weak neck.
Star Trek Prodigy Is a good show. Only saw 1's Episode, But I like The Whole New Approach. IT'S Different. That's What Star Trek Is All About. Keepem Comming. 👍😎
Did they actually invent a copy of the slipstream drive? If so, good for them! I just don't know if it's faster or slower than a transwarp drive.
Oh, and I saw Janeway's rank insignias, and I was thinking 3-star (vice) admiral, but I wasn't sure.
My understanding is that yes, they successfully re-created the slipstream drive. Transwarp is faster.
Thanks, I was wondering about that...but that thing Barkley did when the Cytherians (sp?) made him super intelligent...I nicknamed that "slingshot drive". It's extremely dangerous, but it can get you anywhere almost instantly. 😄
But I agree with you, transwarp drive is better than slipstream.
I always figure Hope and Fear took place in the timeline before the Borg and Enterprise went back in time in First Contact. Before Cochrane met Riker and The gang and learned their ship was called Enterprise. Perhaps Archer’s NX-01 was called Dauntless in this timeline. Considering no one on Voyager was taken aback by the registry number.
Fascinating
the timeline that never happened
I would love a series about the prometheus
I liked the first season. Pretty good. I do want to see some live-action series in that timeframe tho. Prior to the events of Picard. Its totally possible given how big the galaxy is.
crazy theory: the protostar can piggypack/dock on the dautless
this ship reminds me of the TARDIS but in reverse, looks so big and roomy from the outside but not so much space on the inside.
What do you mean? You've only seen the bridge. The D'deridex is pretty big, but the bridge is very small.
Imagine trying to get a companion with a smaller on the inside tardis
There is no air in space, hence no need for aerodynamic design or aerodynamic ships - I mean the Borg travel around in cubes.
what is it with Kurtzman and grossly oversized engines?
I rewatched that Voyager episode the other day.
cool ship. the voyager dauntless pretty good. the star trek protostar one looks alright.
the new one is not as nice as the fake orignal one. its probably because the star fleet slip stream drive is not on par with the original. so its a compromise to be able to run as effectively as possible with the slip stream drive but still operate the warp drive as standard when "slip stream cruse" is not used
I always thought this was one of the coolest looking ship in series and was mad that they barely showed it
In the words of Sharon Strzlecki:NOICE!
Good evening Captain Jack, I thank you for sharing your thoughts on this ship. I don't like the look of this ship FROM THE OUT SIDE. IF IT WAS THE SAME as in Voyager I would still not like it BUT I won't hate it. I do like the interior of the ship because it is very close to the FAKE USS Dauntless.
If only they screened Prodigy internationally. Still not available in Australia! Paramount has really dropped the ball.
It’s been available to stream in Paramount Plus for months (I’m also in Australia)
@@ObeMossop It wasn't when I posted. They had the first half of season 1, but not the second.
from watching the prodigy my impression of the new dauntless is that it's much bigger and from remembering voyager the Dauntless Spec. they scanned were up to starfleet standards so even if they were scanning an illusion it was a believable illusion and they just recreated it
My personal opinion is that this "new" Dauntless is even uglier than the "original" one.. but I guess it gets the job done.
Love the bridge interior though - always thought that that would be a good look for future Starfleet ships - a few more consoles (with seating) would be nice, though :-)
C'mon , look at the hype generated from one ship in a animated show. Its tells me people want the og timeline. But it would have been funny if Janeway sent them a new Defiant class. As younger cadets love to kill , or get killed in them.
Yup. If it's not Roddenberry Verse Trek then it's not Star Trek. Picard, Discovery and Prodigy are all pale, cheap imitations. Lower Decks is okay because it is the most Roddenberry Verse.
I think flagship is the term. An admiral is a flag officer and any ship the command is a flag ship they transfer their flad at need apparently
An admiral, at least in the real US Navy, does not command a ship. The Admiral commands the fleet, but the regular Captain retains command of the ship. A flagship usually has enhanced communications to allow coordination of the fleet. There is often a separate Admiral's Bridge that has the equipment like map tables and charts for the Admiral to plan strategies and develop tactics, which is ideally left sealed closed unless in use, though I expect in reality it becomes storage space for ship supplies during normal, Admiral-free operations.. The ship cannot be controlled from the Admiral's Bridge, if present, but the additional comm systems do route there. Ship sensors like RADAR wouod have repeaters on the Admiral's Bridge. The Admiral, as a courtesy, is not supposed to even enter the main Bridge uninvited, as its reserved for ship command personnel. A smart CO, of course, extends the invitation promptly. The Admiral usually visits while the ship is first underway when all is routine and a flag officer's presence isn't a distraction. The Admiral will have a personal staff, but will invite the ship CO to join "as your duties allow", just so the the ship commander has knowledge of the main plan and how the flagship can best fit them.
This is touched on in Star Trek TOS movies...Kirk takes his flag to the Enterprise, but also takes command from Decker, which creates tension between the two. Later, when Spock is Captain, Kirk explicitly states Spock retains command of the ship, while he, Kirk, commands the mission. Spock voluntarily hands command to Kirk.
@@MGower4465 true like a carrier, but other navy's do and in the past admirals did command flagships in American navy, all navy's had a captain as well but he answered to the admiral. The admiral usually commands the entire battle group of escorts, although in ww2 for example us navy had a rear admiral command escorts from a cruiser and a more senior admiral ( vice admiral) the carrier ( but its still a flagship ) even today, its just a division of responsibilities . In other navy's its like the captain is the xo , sort of . ( British, Japanese French, German fir example)
@@MGower4465 oh yes i believe the admiral usually is in the cic ( combat information centre) but there are more than one bridge. But admirals in the field have ships ( admiral ross ds9 ) apparently intrepid class or excelsior class were popular with admirals, also admiral Hansen in best of both worlds or riker in all good things. And janeway in dauntless.
A "flagship" is actually just whichever vessel the Flag Officer happens to be occupying...there's nothing else inherently special or unique about them.
During World War II, both America and Japan had Flag Officers that chose to "fly their flag" on Cruisers and even Destroyers...even though they had Carriers or Battleships in their battle groups.
Whatever ship Janeway travels on...be it the Dauntless or a Danube Class Runabout...her Flag is "transferred" and that vessel becomes Janeway's Flagship.
@@digitalis2977 exactly
Ehh… the Dauntless, like the Intrepid before her, has a very complete design … gutting the aft/secondary hull just makes it fugly
I like it and don't like it at the same time! 🤪
Going into extreme nerdville here, but a ships registry is a very rough and inaccurate way of guessing when it was launched. NCC stands for naval construction contract. So if a contract is awarded to build the Dauntless the project is given a contract number, which then becomes the ships registration number. It might prove a complicated build and even if a contract to build a Nova class or a Luna class is awarded a year or two after the work on the Dauntless began, because they are comparatively easier ships to build that the yards could finish blindfolded, they might be launched earlier and Dauntless with its lower registration number ends up getting launched much later. This is why the lower registration numbers on the Cross field class ships compared to those on the Constitutions didn't really bother me since it must have taken a hell of a lot longer to build them, especially with 23rd Century tech.
_sigh_ no, NCC does _not_ stand for Naval Construction Contract. NCC was created as a registry code by Matt Jeffries combining the "N" used for American aircraft (at the time) with the CCCC used for Soviet aircraft, thus "NCC". All it means is "Federation Starfleet starship", just as "NCIA" and "NI" were used for Section 31 starships, the Vulcan Merchant Fleet used NSP, another Federation prefix was NAR, and so on.
"Naval Construction Contract" was a fanon creation started, I think, by Franz Joseph, and quite clearly does _not_ have anything to do with contracts at all, because then NCC-1701-A, -B, -C, -D, and -E would make no sense.
@@keith6706 Just to elaborate, why would NCC 1701-A, B, C, D, E...not make sense?
@@keith6706 it's Canon it's does stand for Naval Construction Contract
@@darkmatter1152 No, it is not. It has never appeared in any television show or film, either in dialogue or some kind of background graphic or text.
@@keith6706 it's in tech manual and trek websites.
Not to be pendantic but aerodynamic doesn't apply to spaceships. Aero meaning air. Just like a boat or a sub isn't aerodynamic it is hydrodynamic.
Wow, you didn't even mention the Dauntless class in the 26th century year 2553 at the battle of Procyon V as seen in ENT "Azati Prime"
true, should have probably mentioned it since the design has changed, so maybe the design is iterative and will eventually look like the fake one? though we did mention it in our dedicated Dauntless Class NX-01-A video a couple of months back
Will we see Janeway use her SC-4 shuttle later?
Gotta love him talking about aero dynamic that only apply .. ON EARTH. This is space man!!! i.e. no air. no dynamics
Love the vids, but detest the phrase ‘Going forward’ 😂
I fly a Dauntless in STO. I love the ship
Based on your review, do we believe Chekote was the original captain of the Protostar. Would make sense as Admiral Janeway goes searching for her former N1. With both Chekote and the Protostar (an experimental ship with a training hologram of Janeway’s likeness) being lost in the Delta quadrant, the odds are more than coincidental. Who else would Admiral Janeway entrust such an important undertaking???
I honestly think the Voyager did the quadrant a disservice by letting the borg assimilate that man and his ship; YOU KNOW they got one helluva power-boost in intel and technology from that assimilation.
I love this break down video. I would like to add that I am already working on special story featuring continuing voyages of starfleet into the greater galaxy and decided to add this very version of the USA U.S.S. Dial Wes and the U.S.S. protostar to my series which is entitled Star Trek the fifth generation it’s companion series entitled Star Trek deep space 13 and Star Trek Galactica for the prime universe please be prepared to add further information to the U.S.S. dauntless.
registries in star trek have often been a bit fuzzy, they generally go up with launch date but not always, names usually follow the registry but not always. I dont think much stock should be put in using the number as 'this is the 1 thousand 7 hundred and first ship made by starfleet'
Since there is no air in space, would not a better term than aerodynamic designed hull be a quantumdynamic designed hull?
damn, so that's why adm janeway's ship looked familiar
I think this video needs a part 2
As soon as Prodigy concludes it's first season, we'll do a follow up on this one with all the new details and footage :D
- Jack
It seems that the makers of STO made the Dauntless II much larger than the OG.
He didn't blame voyager for the assimilation of his people, he blamed voyager for helping the Borg defeat species 8472 which was about to crush the Borg.
Yes! I did remember the right ship!
"Small grille"? That thing is *massive*.
Why didn’t any of the starships put up a double or triple shield around the Warp-core?
When Trekyards reviewed the msd for this ship, it looked like there was a miscommunication. The window placement makes it look 2 or 3 times bigger than the msd. Wtf ?
Knowing Janeway she probably asked a crew to volunteer and these are the crewmen we see
Do you think it has the armour from End Game? Surprised Enterprise did not have it for Nemesis - perhaps its reserved for next refits or as secret weapon?
So what has happened on prodigy tilll now ? Can anyone put a summary here ?
Going into extreme nerdville here, but a ships registry is a very rough and inaccurate way of guessing when it was launched. NCC stands for naval construction contract. So if a contract is awarded to build the Dauntless the project is given a contract number, which then becomes the ships registration number. It might prove a complicated build and even if a contract to build a Nova class or a Luna class is awarded a year or two after the work on the Dauntless began, because they are comparatively easier ships to build that the yards could finish blindfolded, they might be launched earlier and Dauntless with its lower registration number ends up getting launched much later.
Mostly spot on, though played fast and loose with, since once a name is assigned, the NCC Registration tends to reside with the name (so long as the moniker remains in "continuous" service) and an alphabetical suffix is added for tracking purposes through the system.
So, while what you said is initially true, NCC has morphed over time to simply be a catch-all denoting a Starfleet (not Federation) vessel...not to be confused with any warp-capable, combat ready Starfleet Vessel which also receives a "U.S.S." moniker (United/Unified Starfleet Service) to differentiate them from the early "home fleets" of the Vulcans, Andorians, and Tellerites.
In short, all Starfleet Vessels are NCCs, but not all Starfleet Vessels are U.S.S.s.
@@digitalis2977 What I don't get is, when they were making DS9, they knew full well there was a starfleet ship called Defiant, and they were well aware.of the NCC number and A,B,C, tradition, yet the Defiant has a totally different NCC number than NX-1764-A.
@@positronicfeed Well, firstly, the "new new" Defiant could never be NX anything because it was the renamed U.S.S. Sao Paulo...a production line vessel, not a "Naval Experiment" vessel, so it would receive an NCC designation.
Secondly, when referring to the TOS Defiant, again it would not receive an NCC designation because it is an NX vessel.
Lastly, that's why I said "continuous service"; Starfleet *DOES* recycle Names and Registry numbers (although not together, or else an Alphabetical Suffix is attached) or else registry numbers would be into the billions by the time of DS9 instead of simply the tens of thousands.
The Constitution Class Defiant was short-lived, did nothing major of note (other than disappearing into interspace in the Tholian Sector) and by all canonical accounts, was retired until the NX project that spawned the "new" Defiant. So...
1. The "new" Defiant would not receive the 1764 registry number because it was an NX Vessel which operates off a completely different yet parallel registry system.
2. The NCC-1764, since not famous/infamous or historical enough to be retired (like the NX/NCC-01 Enterprise and NX/NCC-02 Columbia...although you'll notice both names continued a long legacy under different registries) it is highly likely that it is already assigned to another Starfleet Vessel from the Inactive Pool while the name Defiant was not (as was also traditional during TOS days when a ship disappeared, as Humans still had equal parts Hope that the vessel would reappear, and Superstition that the name was somehow Cursed and if a new vessel were to use the name too soon, the same fate would befall the new ship as befell the old one; therefore, if a ship simply disappeared with no trace, it wasn't uncommon for the Registry and Name to be "inactivated" for 50 years or more.)
@@digitalis2977 And the reason they didn't name the new new Defiant 'Defiant A' was because it was going to be too costly to repaint a model just for a few episodes. 😂
@@positronicfeed In reality...probably, but in actuality...maybe?
They technically *DID* repaint and minorly redesign the model to reflect changes in the production model of the Defiant Class. The "Special Dispensation" from Star Fleet wasn't technically to change the name and registry (something Starfleet does with frequency with ships reactivated from mothball fleets whether a new ship with the same name and/or registry has been commissioned or not) but because of notable service and the Space Wizardry of one Chief Miles O'Brien all but ensuring that the renamed Sao Paulo would continue to be an experimental test bed for new concepts and technologies for the Defiant Class as a whole.
Also, there was the consideration of admitting officially to the destruction of the NX Defiant...something that would have been a major propaganda win for the Cardassians in particular and the Dominion in general; much easier to deny rumors and make the Cardassian rank-and-file question the official narrative if a ship that looks the same in passing has the same registry number and transponder is still uncloaking everywhere and blowing everything up.
Which ship was reproduced? The StarFleet version or the original ship with Alien Tech? And how can you reproduce something that never really existed in the first place?
Wow did someone shoot it with a fluggly beam.
tl:dr:
Species 166: We faked a starfleet vessel so as to ruin the lives of the Voyager crew!
Starfleet: Hey, that's a pretty slick design! *steals design*
I think it would have been easy for starfleet to reverse engineer considering they already developed most of the tech about a century earlier with the vengeance (dreadnought class) starship
I still prefer the Prometheus
thats a good ship in series
When i first seen the bridge at first i thought it was the Prometheus class but i quickly realized it didnt look right for that ship then we see the hull then i was lile oh ok its the fake Starfleet ship that you talked about
Why did they cut a huge chunk out of the back, the original shape was great :(
so ARTURIS's race built ships
similar to STARFLEET
They put back in command after loosing the last one? what happened to her Admiral rank? I am surprised they trust her after the last time.
By changing history, they have nothing to remember!
@@johndoe-ek1qs Janeway is good at that, as she was forever messing with history and timeloops.
Where do you take from, that a "-A" registry identifies a ship as a refit?
By that logic even the Enterprise E should be a Constitution refit
It was the original enterprise, which was just USS Enterprise in the original show and USS Enterprise A in the movie as it be heavily refitted.
@@DavidKnowles0 Thats not what I meant.
The guy in the video said, that the "-A" in the dauntle's regystry (NX-01-A)would mean that it would be an NX-Enterprise refit.
Wich it isn't.
But following his logic, all Enterprises should have bin refits from the OG 1701.
Wich they aren't
@@DavidKnowles0 the Enterprise A was a totally different ship. The 1701 was refit in TMP but it was still the 1701. The A was a different ship that replaced it after the 1701 was destroyed.
What episode of Voyager is that? I don't remember that one
i wish they would have accuratly gave admiral janeway kate mulgrews real life current body shape
The species designation doesn't make anu sense as its one of the last they assimilated
Species 116 had managed to resist the borg for centuries, so were probably an early species to be first encountered
@Dom Paris Ah, yes, you're right. Still remarkable, they have been able to avoid the borg that long. It would've been hundreds of years
*ITS A PHOCKING CARTOON! PLEASE!*
I wonder if the Star Trek producers hire a historian to make sure canon lines up.
Dauntless is a BEYOND terrible design as I truly don't know what the designer was thinking? USS Emmitt Till or Sovereign Class though? Now those were BEYOND beautifully designed Star Ships!
Please break down the USS Prometheus
I haven't been watching Prodigy so I don't know what's going on but it seems like a very odd flex to take scans of a fake ship and make it real
well they want frame that all ready could take slip stream drive. So basically it more close to raw reverse engineering.
What does aerodynamics of a ship have anything to do with traveling through Space? Borg vessels are shaped like cubes,so it proves aerodynamics has nothing to do with how fast a ship can travel.
Borg ships use transwarp, not slipstream. Warp drive or transwarp conduits operate in a vacuum, so the shape of the ship is irrelevant. The slipstream drive is very well named, as the ship is riding the "slipstream" like a surfer on a wave. The aerodynamics (or perhaps "hydrodynamics") of the ship have a lot to do with how many particles the ship has to push it's way through and how much force it takes to push through them, like an aircraft pushing itself through the air. See the actual episode of Voyager where the drive is introduced. It gives a good explanation of the particle physics involved.
Looks Ferengi .
Look at the badge, this Janeway is from alternative timeline?
This is new to me, where can watch ST prodigy ? Is it even good?
what about the Dauntless that the Doctor meets EMH mark 2 on
That was the USS Prometheus :)
Do any *actual* children watch Star Trek: Prodigy? Or is it just old adults watching Prodigy, and talking about it on their RUclips channels?
This show is meant for kids, but when I asked my young child cousins about Prodigy, they said it was boring and didn't want to watch it.
As long as they keep making it, I don’t care!
I’m not that old…
- Jack 🖖
Probably adults, because Star Trek Prodigy is the best show out of the terrible Nutrek. It’s the most faithful adaptation of Star Trek since nemesis
@@Clin45 Glad I double checked (RUclips blanked it in my notifications.)
Totally agree!
🙂👍🏽Star Trek Prodigy episode 10 p2 review 📽.
Aerodynamic, but there is no atmosphere in space.
They killed Star Trek with Discovery RIP StarTrek.
Fake Dauntless design is much better. Whoever is doing Starship design nowadays for Trek, for lack of a better term, sucks bad.
Maybe the fake USS Dauntless was based upon a real prototype species 116 somehow knew about?
Non-aerodynamic profile? Dude, the USS Voyager has the most aerodynamic profile a starship can dream of. What's wrong with it's saucer section? It's not as pointy as the Dauntless may be, but it's far from "non-aerodynamic" profile of the individual Enterprises, non of which had any idea of aerodynamics to them ever (as much I loved any Enterprise, they aren't really aerodynamic in any sense of that word).
I do not think aerodynamics have anything to do with it. Aerodynamics are what is used for vehicles that operate in an atmosphere. I think in space it would simply come down to technology and the strength of the structure of your ships. It really does not matter the shape of them as the Borg have proven. I am sure with the right deflector settings the Entetprise D, Voyager hell even the NX-Enterprise of Archers could easily do slipstream speeds as long as all the stress is kept away from there hull.
So ye thats Bull about aerodynamics.
Star Trek explores the idea that generating a slipstream corridor requires more power than forming warp fields. Power is directly related to the frontal geometry of a vessel and lesser to the overall ship geometry. As such, slipstream propelled ships are generally narrow and compact, with aerodynamic lines.
Bro I restarted the video and did your shot game. Wow I'm drunk
It's fun isnt it!
Aerodynamic? In space?
It looks like the USS KAREN
okay Cadet let's not forget multi-phasic torpedoes an ablative armor that's what they brought back when Admiral Janeway went back in time to save the Voyager do you research Cadets dismissed
No evidence suggests the ship is equipped with that currently :)
- Jack
Weird and exceedingly ugly. What’s up with the mushroom gills at the rear of the saucer?
A what now for the ships doctor...god help his victims
I'm going to be honest here: the Dauntless is, in my opinion, an abomination of a ship. Sorry.
It seems as if they tried to mix the designs of the Voyager and the SeaQuest DSV into one ship.