I think a lot of people write these off because other primes are better, but the beauty of these is that you can get a 2-3 maybe even 4 of these lenses at 1.2 for the price of a single higher end prime straight from Sony. These offer awesome value for the price, given the range you can get.
Great review again Christoph, thank you very much! Are you going to test the other lenses in this line as well? I'd be especially interested in the 24mm version.
Should I decide to stay in Nikon DX by the end of the year (depends on weather Nikon will release a semi-pro grade DX body) this will be my next lens! Great review!
I wonder how this lens compares with the much-vaunted Sigma 16mm F1.4 DC DN Contemporary? It would be a tough comparison between the two for sure. As always, great video Chris. 👍👍 Keep up the great work.
This will be like 21mm f1.2 on full frame (of course with 1.3 crop). But still, even with a crop halfway, if shot stills or videos in 21:9 or with stabilization, it should be quite usable. Cheap 21mm 1.2 with slight crop.
Remember that you need to adjust the aperture for FF equivalency as well, at least as far as DOF goes. And as far as ISO you might as well too, since FF sensors have less noise at the same MP and ISO.
@@TheMetalButcher there is always a difference when using a full sensor, but max aperture and iso stays the same. You could try to make an equivalent, but it just create a confusion, sinceyou want to compare the same field of view, while it's not, since it's a crop. Also, since it's a small crop, a difference is smaller than going to 1.5 crop from FF. 1 thing to remember tho, I forgot to count stabilization movement in, but it shouldn't be so bad.
I'd go with the much wider 13mm, nice metalic build with aperture ring, faster AF, much better close up image quality. Btw a new Viltrox f/1.2 Pro WR lens is coming but we still don't know the focal lenght, a new ultra wide or a short telephoto ?
@@k1k13004 In this particular case yes, the reputation of the Fuji 18mm f1.4WR means that lens will hold its value, the Sirui will not. Not all lenses are created equal and the Fuji 18mm f1.4WR is one of those lenses that is worth the extra effort. It's not like I'm against third party lenses, just this year I bought the Laowa 9mm Zero D for my Canon R7, because Canon has absolutely no fast wide primes for R mount, and even if Canon had made an average quality fast wide angle prime I probably still would have bought the Laowa 9mm Zero D, the first party lens needs to be truly exceptional, and I'm confident no one will regret getting the Fuji 18mm f1.4WR.
@@budthecyborg4575 that's way too obvious man. I'm not saying the fuji is not better. It would be strange to pay more than twice and have the same result. However this Sirui performs really good for this price. That's it.
@@k1k13004 With the slow AF speed it's kind of a bad lens depending on your use case. Landscape, sure no problem. Street shooting it becomes a problem. TONS of people would be much better served with a lens that has fully functioning AF.
@@JJARCHIE that may be, but unless you’re doing Astrophotography it’s not really an issue. You won’t be getting super blurry backgrounds with a 16mm even at 1.2 unless you get really close to your subjects
@@Robert_Gonzales its more so the light gathering , i had an event yesterday actually where it was lit up but i still needed f1.8 to get below iso 400 with 1/100 shutter. At f2.8 that would be iso 1200 , with an f1.2 i could even drop to 250
@@JJARCHIE that’s why event photographers use a speedlite. ISO 1200 is fine on literally any canon R series camera, I’ve shot events with 25,000 iso and files look fine
Chinese make better and better lenses every year. By 2040-50 we will likely use more Chinese lenses than Japanese. If Nikon and Canon are still Japanese companies that is.
It is crazy how they managed to make 5 AF 1.2 lenses from 16mm to 75mm that look identical in size and shape.
Super handy for gimbals and cinema-setups. Saves time on adjusting balance or follow focus setups 👌🏻
It’s super easy just make the housing as big as the biggest one
@@shaocaholica May be. But these lenses do not look that big for F1.2.
@@KK-fi6ms it’s APS-C so size wise it should be similar to a f1.8 on full frame
@@SyntheticFuture Looking for a feedback. Please help if you can. I have sony a7siii. Would they work well? is quality good as Tamron(sony) lenses?
thank you. I am really surprised, as other tests I saw on RUclips were disastrous.
I would love to see your test of the 23mm and the 33mm versions.
That lack of distortion or vignetting is extremely impressive to me, considering it's an ultrafast ultrawide lens.
If you consider it's made from the pseudo cinema lenses, then it makes sense. I wonder if the nightwalker version has focus breathing as well
I agree
I think a lot of people write these off because other primes are better, but the beauty of these is that you can get a 2-3 maybe even 4 of these lenses at 1.2 for the price of a single higher end prime straight from Sony. These offer awesome value for the price, given the range you can get.
I wouldn't mind getting one just for personal use
I would love this on M4/3
👏 waiting now for the 75 sniper review too 👍🏼
When I saw 1.2 in such a small body I expected a disaster. This is impressive!
Super usefull the shot on FF!
Wished to have it for the ttartisan 50mm 0.95 apsc that actualy cover FF
Great review again Christoph, thank you very much! Are you going to test the other lenses in this line as well? I'd be especially interested in the 24mm version.
Just bought one this morning, cheaper to get from AliExpress but the shipping is slow. I'm excited to try it out.
Thank you for placing THOSE lenses on Full Frame, Im often using them on my A7IV :) GREAT!
Super helpfull review! Thanks
Damn I'm actually very impressed.
That's actually a really great price for a 24mm equiv.
Hello Chris, please do review on fuji 8-16 f2.8
Great review as always... :)
When can we expect review of Nikkor Z 35mm f1.4? :)
impressive lens for so little money, will there be a review of the 75mm f1.2?
Is there a plan for review of new tamron 50-300?
If this lens was £100 more than Yongnuo 16mm 1.8. Which would you get? Is this worth the extra price for low light recording (RUclips videos)
Should I decide to stay in Nikon DX by the end of the year (depends on weather Nikon will release a semi-pro grade DX body) this will be my next lens! Great review!
Thanks ❤
Does this lens compatible with the focus breathing setting of sony cameras?
Can you compare them with the Sigma 16,35,56mm
I wonder will this work on a Nikon Z5 full frame?? If so how much would it affect the quality?
XF 16-50 Test please
out of curiosity can I use this on a mirrorless canon R50?
I wonder how this lens compares with the much-vaunted Sigma 16mm F1.4 DC DN Contemporary? It would be a tough comparison between the two for sure. As always, great video Chris. 👍👍 Keep up the great work.
The whole 1.2 line is softer and the af is slower - tho it makes sense since this is more of a cinema glass with af
According to SonyAlphaBlog it's very close to the Sigma in sharpness, has better bokeh and handles CAs and flare better.
@drchtct after trying both the Sigma is sharper wide open, but the 1.2 needs to be stopped down to even compare
@@drchtct its worse in sharpness and af
This lens would be a great choice for Canon RF Apsc cameras too, if only Canon would open the mount for everyone. 😭
Well, you chose that devil yourself :P
I'm moving to Sony, after 25 years with Canon (since film days) for this reason only; you should do it, too.
@@ritrattoaziendale i am thinking about that for some time. 😐
This will be like 21mm f1.2 on full frame (of course with 1.3 crop).
But still, even with a crop halfway, if shot stills or videos in 21:9 or with stabilization, it should be quite usable.
Cheap 21mm 1.2 with slight crop.
My ad, looks more like 19mm if 1.2x crop is possible.
Remember that you need to adjust the aperture for FF equivalency as well, at least as far as DOF goes. And as far as ISO you might as well too, since FF sensors have less noise at the same MP and ISO.
@@TheMetalButcher there is always a difference when using a full sensor, but max aperture and iso stays the same. You could try to make an equivalent, but it just create a confusion, sinceyou want to compare the same field of view, while it's not, since it's a crop. Also, since it's a small crop, a difference is smaller than going to 1.5 crop from FF.
1 thing to remember tho, I forgot to count stabilization movement in, but it shouldn't be so bad.
Comparing this lens to the viltrox 13 1.4, wich one its bettee?
I'd go with the much wider 13mm, nice metalic build with aperture ring, faster AF, much better close up image quality.
Btw a new Viltrox f/1.2 Pro WR lens is coming but we still don't know the focal lenght, a new ultra wide or a short telephoto ?
Sirui sniper lenses！
It's a great lens, but I would rather put that money toward an example of the virtually flawless Fuji 18f1.4WR
are we comparing 400 and 1000 dollars? For some people this is a huuuuuge difference
For the same price you could get 2 lens
@@k1k13004 In this particular case yes, the reputation of the Fuji 18mm f1.4WR means that lens will hold its value, the Sirui will not.
Not all lenses are created equal and the Fuji 18mm f1.4WR is one of those lenses that is worth the extra effort.
It's not like I'm against third party lenses, just this year I bought the Laowa 9mm Zero D for my Canon R7, because Canon has absolutely no fast wide primes for R mount, and even if Canon had made an average quality fast wide angle prime I probably still would have bought the Laowa 9mm Zero D, the first party lens needs to be truly exceptional, and I'm confident no one will regret getting the Fuji 18mm f1.4WR.
@@budthecyborg4575 that's way too obvious man. I'm not saying the fuji is not better. It would be strange to pay more than twice and have the same result. However this Sirui performs really good for this price. That's it.
@@k1k13004 With the slow AF speed it's kind of a bad lens depending on your use case.
Landscape, sure no problem. Street shooting it becomes a problem.
TONS of people would be much better served with a lens that has fully functioning AF.
I've cut the box seal but I am too busy to open the lens' wrapping yet, glad to hear the performance is in par
Wow! At $400 that's an impressive performance! Too bad it's not for Canon RF!
Just get the 16mm 2.8, it’s literally cheaper
@@Robert_Gonzalesyeah but thats 2 stops slower ( 2 1/3 actually )
@@JJARCHIE that may be, but unless you’re doing Astrophotography it’s not really an issue. You won’t be getting super blurry backgrounds with a 16mm even at 1.2 unless you get really close to your subjects
@@Robert_Gonzales its more so the light gathering , i had an event yesterday actually where it was lit up but i still needed f1.8 to get below iso 400 with 1/100 shutter.
At f2.8 that would be iso 1200 , with an f1.2 i could even drop to 250
@@JJARCHIE that’s why event photographers use a speedlite. ISO 1200 is fine on literally any canon R series camera, I’ve shot events with 25,000 iso and files look fine
A basket for 45 quid??? Holy....
who played piano?
A credible performance for the price , but it looks vile in White
Chinese make better and better lenses every year. By 2040-50 we will likely use more Chinese lenses than Japanese. If Nikon and Canon are still Japanese companies that is.
I think sigma 56 f1.4 will be better😅😊
They really need to improve the design, it looks plastiky, cheap with ugly font
Apple users will probably run into issues
Are this lenses targeted to americans?
What do you mean by the verb "targeted"?
@@atselykovskiy "aimed"
@@atselykovskiy sirui 'sniper'
@@hanabi.1 Maybe it alludes to the lens getting a perfect shot every time.