Secret Filming | Military Junta | General Pinochet | Chilean Revolution | This Week | 1977
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- Four years ago, a military junta led by General Pinochet overthrew Chile’s democracy and its elected President, Salvador Allende. The coup was followed by mass arrests, torture, murder, imprisonment, exile. Now, four years later, the first filmed report of the scale of Chile’s misery has been smuggled out by ‘THIS WEEK’ reporter Jonathan Dimbleby. Using a tourist camera, he has recorded life in the city and the countryside, for the starving slum-dwellers and for the expropriated peasants.
First shown: 17/11/77
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Already a minute in and the claim is made that the Military regime dedicated the 19th of September to the Glories of the Army. This is wrong. The celebration of "The Glories of the Army" existed officially since 1915 ! And it has nothing to do with the 1973 coup ! The Military regime obviously kept the tradition here.
Also, when they show bits of the military parade the music is inaccurate. They don't play the Chilean anthem all the time, Chileans also have their own marches. Duh !
No one cares about it, not even chileans and that's not the point of the film genius, they are telling you about the crimes committed by the dictatorship.
@@humanoidy What the government is doing is all under the constitution, curfew and state of emergency by constitution, the president of the Republic can rule it in cases in which public order and state security is altered and is most of The population accepts and supports the armed forces in the streets to end these criminals and anarchists who want to destroy and alter public order.
I suppose you supported Pinochet.
@@humanoidy All this is solvable and now the protests have a more passive character because they realized that they destroyed things that served themselves! The intelligence of the Chilean people, supporting for almost 3 decades a democratic system that did not serve, for 24 Years left-wing governments have ruled Chile and you think they solved something of "This unequal system" Of burgeoning neoliberalism the people have to go and ask for explanations from them not from the current government since they are the ones who pay the previous bad policies, Lagos creating a "Public" transportation system that finally turned out to be a fiasco besides concessioning roads and expressing that the Pinochet system was a success.
@@o-ls4em I care, shut up
Most people will never be able to appreciate the immense risk that this film crew would have taken to get these images out of Chile.
UK cunt production.
@@fpopee Grow up you utter twat
This film made by UK commie propaganda
Because it wasn't risky. Their risk was having it confiscated, that's it. What in these videos makes you think they were at risk. No one is actually speaking but the narrator and nothing would've happened to these dishonest reporters.
The leftist crew are enemies of nation state.
Interesting how the commentary can be used to put a different light on perfectly innocent scenes. People playing in the park becomes "ignoring the military parade", a police car going down the street becomes "martial law", people talking outside a building becomes "secret police are always watching you". Not saying it's untrue, but it's worth considering.
Very true, many of these scary narrations could so easily be about the state of modern "democratic" Britain!!
That's because it was (mostly, not 100% of the time) like that. The police wasn't patrolling just for fun, and to this day, men in moustaches, dark sunglasses and suits are commonly associated with the CNI (National Investigations Central), Pinochet's secret police. My dad clearly remembers them since he lived just next to a military villa.
Kind of like what we see and hear today? 🤔
is everything all right at home? do u even know what ur suggesting? study son
..yes! I myself question EVERYTHING!!!!...i'm NOT in anyway suggesting that any of this is not true!..js
I have never been to Chile, but I saw the former east-germany. And there the marxist behaved just like Pinochet is accused of behaving in this film. And pinochet liberated Chile from a marxist.......I think Pinochet did what should have been done in east-germany long before 1989!
thank you this is crazy
Ask the Venezuelans if they would like to have a Pinochet of their own.
Alex Herrera Dumbass
@@pania3952 your name reveals your intelligence
Dayvon Sunshine And I do not find people intelligent which imagine the Venezuelans were happy with a proto-fascist dictator like Pinochet
@@pania3952 are you saying they wouldnt be happy with food in their mouth
MISTER You are literally a brainwashed dumbass
Could they make these films in a comunist country?
Nope
Communists countries don't exist anymore dipshit. Get lost troll
@@marcusfigueroa8681 Cuba, China, Vietnam, North Korea, France...
@@gontrandenoirmouchot1259 if those are communist why do they have corporations over there. A McDonald's in China? Lol. And I would call north Korea fascist, not communist
@@gontrandenoirmouchot1259 and Cuba is a democracy
"To talk freely is forbidden" like in the UK today.
Only goes to show what a whiny bunch the brits has become, if they feel they can relate to the people suffering under this regime.
you must be seriously stupid to make such comparison
@Daphne Lynne
Imagine having the gall to, as a citizen of a free country where you can openly and freely criticise the government, whine about and compare your country to a country which had literal secret police, which disappeared and murdered thousands of political dissidents. Anything to feel oppressed I guess.
@xirsamoht x opf courae you couldn't comrade. YOU are the establishment.
Fire up them rotors
@Black Dog fire up them rotors
I don't want communists bit one can never achieve a moral good by committing a moral evil. Allende was terrible, but Pinochet violated God's laws tremendously
@@thecancelling2870 toda la razón, los que avalan la muerte merecen el castigo de Dios.
@Red Dead We need free car rides for fascists
ruclips.net/video/NjGyjkMt3kw/видео.html
@YexaC how is murdering people right in God's eyes? Communists murder. I just think it's not a good thing to lock people up and torture and murder them. We all have to give an account at the end of our lives. I think Comminism should first be fought in the realm of ideas. That said, Allende was bad. He shouldn't be praised.
Already 3 minutes and it throws around words of mass murderer, mass poverty, just words meant to excite the audience, narrated like a action film meant to entertain and not teach. They provide no backup, no proof, no citation to those criticisms, just words that POP.
“Democracy dead, and instead of why that is bad, look at how bad they are instead. Now let’s put words that sound scary, and how the audience is too stupid to question it.”
Well PINOCHET did kill my uncle and tortured my family soooo
there are many ways to say that ur an unsensitive person, but it is better for you, and the memory of the chilean people, to read something that will open your narrow mind about the horrors that were done: (RETTIG REPORT) www.derechoshumanos.net/lesahumanidad/informes/informe-rettig.htm
Are you even chilean or just another ignorant gringo buying the whole "muh pinochet saved Chile from cubazuela" thing?
This documentary is bias rubbish!
That's because of British.
You lived under Pinochet?
As far as can I counterargument, and the classes of ethics I had in school, there is no ethical justification by suspending a messed up government for a dictatorship that has killed a lot of people, the killing of the opposition for the sake of order has no ethical justification by no means no matter how messed up is the country we are never supposed to validate this kind of atrocities. Although I come from a right wing family who was really concerned from being killed by far left wing guerrillas during Allende's goverment, they felt saved by the suspension of the regime. I can't blame them for all the misinformation that was going around. But because of that, my best friend's great aunt was thrown to the ocean from a helicopter by the military, because her right wing father didn't recognize her because she had left wing ideals. I can't help to feel sad for those who suffered during dictatorship, and feel upset sometimes with my family. Looking to the bigger picture though,because of the international scenario that was going on, and the Cia disclassified documents that proof US interference to mess up Allende's goverment, I think this was inevitable, because it goes beyond of what we can do as individuals to get over, and now the only thing we can do is see the past as a reminder...
No its not rubbish ,and you cannot spell correctly either.
Chris comma out of place
Ten minutes in, the comments about "freedom of speech" sound like the UK, Germany, Sweden or Canada today! Except these people weren't singled out for their physiological traits.
@Jay Y Say something in favor of limited immigration in academia or the legacy media...you'll find out.
Found out yet Jay Y?
@@conveyor2 ok white supremacist
Um, no.
@@conveyor2 I'm not a bigoted idiot, so no.
Cry more
Is anyone going to point out that Pinochet restored democracy as well. He did step down when he lost. Also Allende literally violated the Constitution so not a Saint of democracy.
El Momio. Pinochet gave up terror power because his American bosses and the Polish Pope had changed propaganda policy ("democracy"). And because the dictator's terror had carried out all his tasks which were to deprive the popular classes of their autonomous Unions and Parties.
And to restore the bourgeois full dictatorship by the effects of the so called "Chicago boys", and their fascist economist Friedman .
Pinochet tried to declared himself winner of the plebiscite, General Mathew under pressing form the Americans went public to recognize that Pinochet lost.
Pinocho didn’t step down, he stayed as head of the Army.
@@hectorsantos3378 Until 1998 but yes. Not what the point is though. He transitioned peacefully into civilian government.
@@hectorsantos3378 Granted but he still ended up accepting it: "The fact that the dictatorship respected the results is attributed to pressure from big business, the international community and unease with extended rule by Pinochet within the dictatorship."
What a beautiful country
...without hunger, repression, fascism and class dictatorship do you mean ?
What A Beautiful World by Louis Armstrong.
If you know other songs let me know .
yes lets ignore the starving children, it truly was beautiful sure bro...
@@sharkentist1232 this isn’t Venezuela my guy
@@sharkentist1232 What starving children? Our economy doubled and we had very surplus amounts of food. This is not like communist Cuba or Venezuela
Well if it was so bad why are so many chileans thankful of Pinochet? Why did he lose a referendum after 17 years of government by only a few percentage points? Why didnt he manage the results? Why did he hand over power peacefully in a country vastly better socially, economically, and with freedom of press? The report is full of half truths and outright lies. If the report had a slither of professionalism you would add sources and numbers.
Alex, tú sabes perfectamente bien que el mismo Pinochet fue el que se puso ese plazo de 1988 luego de la burla esa que fue el plebiscito de 1980.
Por lo demás, el del 88 el NO ganó con una ventaja de casi 12%, lo cual es bastante margen
@@Uncanalcualquiera1 Yo vote el 80 y casi toda la gente que conocia voto el SI ese año, no se de que burla me hablas. El 88 gano el 44% de los votos, te parece poco? Si hubiese querido, habria podido manejar las cifras
this is British propaganda under socialist rule. It was still 3 years until Thatcher took over and plowed down the labor union regime
Jajaja Pinochet fue el salvador
He rots in Hell you Winger Putz. He fled the country, they were going to kill him. Just like he was going to kill the economic advisors.
03:35 "You discuss openly only matters that will offend no one", this rather accurately describes the UK in 2021.
Pathetic. When Britain has torture camps and death squads, then have a whinge.
Okay, I’ll bite. Name one matter you can’t openly discuss.
my brother in christ, how privileged are you where you compare the UK to a fucking millitaristic, torturing, genocidal regime just because you cant say a fucking sentence out in public without disrespecting someone. Just learn to be a decent human person already its not that hard.
it's dispicable when ppl use the shoulders of the officially oppressed to affront their petty grievances.
@@SeanRCope
“Name one matter you can’t discuss” that’s quite a funny comment. Considering we can not discuss some matters here. Even if I said a certain word in a certain way my account would be removed immediately
Pinochet was a complicated man, but he ultimately saved Chile from famine and economic ruin. Many of the Chilean healthcare and educational programs that are praised around the world today are built on the foundation that Pinochet established.
Leftists always focus on the crimes of Pinochet, which he did commit, but they never seem to comment on other Latin American dictators, like Videla and Stroessner, who were FAR more heinous.
Pinochet ❤❤❤❤❤
Pinochet did not save Chile from anything. He was an agent of imperialism and class domination who inflicted immense suffering and damage on the Chilean people and their sovereignty. He did not lay the foundation for any progressive or beneficial programs. He only served the interests of a minority of capitalists and their foreign backers. Pinochet came to power through a violent coup d’état that overthrew the democratically elected socialist government of Salvador Allende in 1973. The coup was backed by the CIA and other imperialist forces who feared the radicalization of the Chilean masses and the nationalization of key industries. Pinochet’s regime was responsible for widespread human rights violations, including torture, murder, disappearance, and exile of thousands of political opponents, trade unionists, students, artists, and activists. According to the Rettig Report and the Valech Report, the number of direct victims of human rights violations in Chile accounts for around 30,000 people: 27,255 tortured and 2,279 executed. The neoliberal policy had devastating effects on the living conditions of the majority of Chileans. It increased inequality, poverty, unemployment, inflation, debt, and social unrest. It also eroded the public sector, especially in health, education, and pensions. It created a highly dependent and vulnerable economy that was subject to external shocks and crises. The neoliberal policy also had negative impacts on the environment and the natural resources of Chile. It promoted a model of development that was based on extraction, exportation, and consumption of raw materials, especially copper, which is Chile’s main source of income. It also allowed the exploitation and pollution of land, water, and biodiversity by transnational corporations. The neoliberal policy was not a result of a democratic choice or a popular consensus. It was imposed by force and coercion by the military regime and its allies. It faced strong resistance and opposition from various sectors of society, such as workers, students, women, indigenous people, and human rights organizations.
Chile's national day is 18th not 19th September.
Yes Cesar, el 18° de Septiembre but the 19th of September is "El Día de las Glorias" del Ejército de Chile and many reporters make the same mistake just as they did with most of the Bullshitt in this video...
Typical garbage reporting.
Watching this now confirms the bias against those that fought and keep fighting socialism and communism in the world. This fellow would have us believe Castro and Kim Jon-Un are much better for society...
When you use the words socialism and communism as though they are the same and therefore interchangeable you betray your level of education. Communism is when the government gives you something if you tell on their neighbors- oddly, similar to dictatorships and something I'm guessing you'd easily do. Socialism is when the government gives you something with no strings attached. I don't know what country you live in but I'd bet you, a family member , or a friend has benefitted from that at some time or other. Do yourself a favor and open a book before you open your mouth so that the rest of us can open our mouths without fear of retribution from your hillbilly ass.
@@mcmahon3301 Hilarious! What academia spat you out? Socialism just gave you something at the expense of someone else..communism is when you mention that.
@@conveyor2 Your definitions have no baring on reality, Socialism is worker ownership of the means production, sometimes informally referred to as workplace democracy, its the practice of workers owning and operating the means of production or having a larger say in the functions and governance of the business, either voting for managers or being granted a say in major decisions of the business (example: A factory wishes to send a number of key jobs overseas, worker’s would granted the ability to vote on that decision). Communism is a system in which the State, Cash, and Class is all abolished. There is no state, there is no cash, and there isn’t any class divisions. It believes that past economic systems will have advanced humanity to such a state of development that many facets of capitalism and socialism will give way to a post-scarcity economy. None of these economic systems have anything to do with government doing stuff, states intervening or being involved in internal economic issues is universal to any economic system, Feudalism, Mercantilism, and even Capitalism.
@@niceyniceyzoozoo836 ok ok ok btheyre the same thing. And even if they arent theyre both shitty u tankie
@@iketanikoichiro3519 Ignoring your incapacity to spell really simple words, they’re both literally not the same thing and you cearly don’t know what the term tankie means.
Chee-Lay not Chilly.
I know, that always drives me nuts
Yep, stupid Leftist Brits.
Peasants look well dressed and fed.
"Peasants"...
Get of youtube the less idiots like you off social media is for the better.
They looked well dressed and fed in videos I watched of the Soviet Union too.
You are disgusting
@@matthewtorok-smith1967 They did not
Mass hunger? That wasn’t a thing under Pinochet’s rule. Mass poverty? Real wages DUPLICATED under Pinochet’s rule and the standard of living skyrocketed.
You're a dickhead
That is totally wrong. At the end of the dictatorship, on1989, Chile had a 40 per cent of poverty, which was higher than the one of 1973 when he made the coup
Enrique Peña Nieto 😂😂😂😂😂
shut up mexican
Pinochet was a fascist tyrrant.
Is it me or they are translating something different for their own political agenda? If you pay attention most of the times they say something different from what they are translating, I just noticed in the minute 10:40 where the guy is talking about paying stuff ("estamos pagando" and thing about the people "pueblo" but the they turn up the audio of the translator who say "they live in fear" and stuff like that and in the minute 10:30 the lady is talking about the education of the children and how its terrible for many families from what I heard like "y... la educacion, la educacion de los niños y que muchas familias lo encuentran catastrofico" but the they translated "we are afraid we trust nothing, we cant speak open in front of people its terrible" so personal recomendation I would watch this with a grain of doubt because they are kinda modifing some stuff here
Also hello I'm from Chile awante chile ctm los quiero cabros quien mas q no sea gringo aca wn?
Teni razon, esas partes no estan mal traducidas, estan cambiadas a proposito por algo nada que ver a lo que estan diciendo para que se vea mas terrible y catastrofico
this is a soft pro-leftist video.....what they do not tell you is the former government was no better than Pinochet.................
@@TheAmerican1963 Like that is an excuse for Pinochet
The media hates anything that isn't far-left. Pinochet saved his nation from communism, so they hate him.
@@gagetomerlin2497 He doesnt need to be excused.
Everybody in Pinochet's Chile was better off except communists. Look how rich and wealthy the people lived.
Patrick McCarron You are not very smart
Chile of today more or less still looks the same but with a democratically elected government, a lower unemployment rate.
@@pania3952 Can't expect much from rightoid gringos
Hahaha
Well he did the right thing to get rid of the red's.
مصا كراتي
Exactly right.
Yes , that right, he kill thousands, but that was not the end of Socialism, Israel ave for 37 years socialist government, Suecia, Noruega,
Hell roast you, you dirty bastard!
I wish they mentioned that the US supported the coup and Pinochet.
good. down with the red devil
@@dankbartolo6362 down with democracy
@@That_GuyRUclips I agree too
@Cat Mimi they tried to undermine the Allende government since he was elected. The US used it’s influence to remove him from power, and it came on 9/11/73. They just haven’t admitted their role in the coup like they have to the Iran Coup of 1953
@Cat Mimi Not true!
Marx deslike these vídeo
No, we just don't want to starve and we want jobs
All Marxist books should be burned.
@@whatseemstobethematter2992 you're uneducated
@@andrewallan4542 No you are
@@andrewallan4542 uneducated support marxism u dumb fuck
Very untruthful documentary. Compare Pinochet's Chile to Castro's Cuba and see who is better off then and now.
Yeah. Next thing you're gonna say is that the people in the vids are paid actors lol. Get lost
Another Venezuela or Cuba was averted. When thinking of catastrophe averted, I often open a celebratory bottle of Pinochet '73. The bouquet is exquisite and it travels well - especially in helicopters.
Cuba wouldn't have failed if weren't for the US embargo and geopolitical pressure and Venezuela (my country) isn't actually communist. What Maduro does is not communist in any way shape or form
@@julianmendez4402 You should do stand up.
Cuba has failed because its economy and politics is simply stupid. Getting on with your neighbours is part of life - for countries too. If you let some pseudo-religion get in the way, is it not the fault of the pseudo-religion that your economy is shit.
As for Venezuela, you seem to be saying: ' we need a more virulent form of the madness to sort things out.'.
LOL!
@@damianbylightning6823
Well put!
You're right! The helicopters industry was blooming under Pinochet and many pilots were trained.
@@jeanghika7653 Sainted Castro murdered more people than Pinochet did. In Pinochet's long career, his seizing of power and rescuing of Chile, his establishment of power and in 30 yrs of fighting against the violent forces that wanted the socialists back - the death toll is 3000 in realpolitik terms. . His alleged death toll is about 3000. This is about the same as Cuba's death toll in the 1st few months of the regime which has destroyed that country. The left are allowed to destroy and use violence - because their violence and cruelty is 'for a moral purpose'. I have no idea how stupid you have to be to believe this - as stupid as a journalist, may be?
Free Helicopter Rides
Chúp aloww. .
coward ...
@@leofernando3961 butthurted?
@@doot4452 no , what about you Idiot ?
Awesome thks to General Augusto Pinochet Chile was spare from the marxist comunist.
Como he cambiado desde el 18 de octubre y me atrevo a decir Pinochet haces falta en chile he comprendido todo..
Made back in the day when mainstream media were able to produce investigative journalism
Communist propaganda
This report is biased, not complete and tells a small part of the reality. Not good reporting at all.
'....mass poverty, mass hunger....' That's just not true, Pinochet actually rescued the economy and stopped inflation, later got lots of outside investment in Chile, and maintained a very high growth rate for decades (aside from 1982 setback) and Chile has the highest per capita income in South America to this day.
Forced Disappearance is okay with you?
The executions of 1,200 to 3,200 people, the internment of as many as 80,000 people, and the torture of tens of thousands is okay??
And the trains ran on time as well@@someotherdude
Trump wants a Pinochet regime in Estados Unidos de America. Putin and the American Right might just give him one in 2020 as well.
It would be nice that this report show how terrible was the government of Allende, how all the companies left the country and how the people didnt want to work for governement. It was a war between left and right, and right defeat left. When left wins countries go to look a like Cuba. When democracry wins you have the chance to choose. This report is so poor showing just one side.
"Mass exodus" I think he means red flight.
Chicago Boys
Despite what this video says, Pinochet completely turned around Chileas economy, turning it from one of the poorest, to The Highest Annual Personal Income of ANY SA Country, was a true ally to Britain in times of war, and loved by Regan...He was not perfect, but was well thought of by most Democratic leaders in the world...Yes, he was heavy handed to a degree, but governing a SA Country and Economy is a tough job, he did far better than most of SA compatriots 😘
Thatchers best mate.
God Bless Margaret Thatcher
Two pro liberty figures.
@@conveyor2 So pro liberty they supported genocide and dictatorship.
@@patrickmccarron5059 The abysmal twat or iron maiden
@@muslimmetalman Pinochet saved Chile from the communist tyranny.
If only Allende had prevailed, they'd have had a happy National Day with Fidel Castro as the guest of honour.
Okay, this is epic!
My hero, Pinochet!
@Eidelmania Fascism involves socialism idiot.
wp r I hope this is a joke
Watch ''The missing '' directed by Costas Gavras.
Not biased at all lol!
right? Totally not biased.
Not a single word about Communism that was slowly taking control over Chile before Pinochet took control. In this "unbiased journalist" opinion the bad people showed up out of nowhere like in every children's book...
@xirsamoht xPresident A. Pinochet is one of the greatest President in the history of Latin America. He not only saved Chile from becoming another Cuba or Venezuela, he transformed the Chilean economy into the best performing one in Latin America. Today Chile is the most advanced and modern country in the region. It’s neighbors Bolivia and Argentina are failed states. Chilenos enjoy one of the highest standards of living in the Americas. And most importantly once he reached this great achievement, he returned the country to democracy in a peaceful way. This is totally unthinkable for left-wing dictators such as Chavez, Maduro or the Castros..
Cracanata: and not a single word about the fact that Allende did not win an absolute majority of the vote! Only 32% of the electorate voted for him! Yet he felt he was able to tell the majority how they must live!!
Allende invited Castro and Cubans into Chile!
ThamesTV have had documentaries on the brutality of the Khmer Rogue and repression in the Eastern Bloc. From what Ive seen they’ve called out murderous dictators whether left, right or center
Thank for this piece of history about my country and fate. Please don’t take ik down. Its for the next generation to see how the situation was at the time of the coup.
Bring back the right wing.
I would like to see someone do a report of Chile from 1960 to 1973, show the terrible things that happened and the truth about the Allende regime. People only hear what the socialists and communists want them to.
The CIA plotted to bring down the Allende democratically elected government and systematically disrupted Chilean society to ferment unrest and economic conditions within Chile. A shameful period of US involvement and culminated in crimes against the Chilean people , murder and torture .
@@chilesauce7248 I can sum it up. He cracked some skulls, used the power of the state to imprison and bury a shit ton of rabble rousing communists and communist sympathizers.
God bless Pinochet
God bless Pinochet
What is common in all these dictators of the past and still in making is the west and usa support behind them, all these dictators were and still today are pawns that these nations use
I agree
And his economic reforms may have caused some short term pains at first, because the lazy people who lived off the socialist gravy train under Allende May have suffered , but a few years later especially in the 1980’s there was strong economic growth.
If it wasn’t for Pinochet , Chile would have ended up like Venezuela is today
He never was a dictator. This journalists is speculating he have not ideas what he talk about it, yes the ones dezcepered today they are a life.....
Why don't you watch the film ''The missing '' directed by Costas Gavras? It truly depicts the reality of the coup of 1973
Imagine thinking a famous military dictator wasn't a dictator.
You are a brainwashed moron.
The Pinochet dictatorship is undefensible, but Allende was no angel, either, and the American administration was actually neutral.
What bad things has Allende done? Genuinely curious. He might not have implemented good policies but he was a firm believer in democracy and actually was willing to have a popular vote because of all the unrest in the country. Pinochet personally urged him to announce the popular vote a few days later so that he could stage the coup pretending Allende wanted to stay in power. Democracy and freedom are more important than economic ideologies but especially the neoliberal reforms also highly reduced freedom and democracy in an economic sense. Pinochet was definitely way worse than Allende and people who just assume that Allende would've been the same as authoritarian left wing dictatorships don't know a thing about Allende but simply fell for red scare propaganda. I fucking hate authoritarian states, left and right, but plenty of times democratic left wing governments have been overthrown because it was claimed they were communists.
If both factions don't want democratic left wing systems to succeed (the eastern block because of the freedom part and the west because it might have shown the world that political and economic freedom very well can go hand in hand) it's clear that this system won't succeed. A democratic socialist state would be alone, surrounded by enemies.
I have yet to find a person that is able to explain to me what the idea of economic democracy and worker ownership (which both hasn't existed in self proclaimed socialist states but is the definition of socialism) has to do with gulags and dictatorships
@@hijo1998 Allende did want to create a Communist dictatorship, and he would have succeeded if he hadn't been stopped. As for Pinochet, he was appointed by Allende himself, who died convinced that Pinochet had already been arrested.
@@michelesanpietro3013 nope, he wanted some large scale social reforms, there's no basis for your claim
@@TheAnnoyedHumanist No, he wanted to take freedom away, like all damned Communists!
@@michelesanpietro3013 "freedom" is being used as nothing but a platitude here, especially considering Pinochet egregiously trampled those same "freedoms" you advocate for
boy George was having fun back then its TIME TO PAY THE PIPER LUCIFER
You mean the Karma Chameleon...?
What else to expect from British media?
My friend it's not a matter of nationality, or ethnicity or race. It's a matter of class division and dominance in the society. When there is class exploitation and domination these social-political plights are commons, you will find in India or Indonesia or DR of Congo or even in England and USA.
It's for that commune plights and hunger and fight for going out that who studied this problem unanimously concluded : proletarian of the world unite .
@@riparbelligiorgio8188 lol
The reporter was a Useful Idiot for the soviets, nothing more.
Pinochet and Thatcher were good friends at one point
Explain please....disculpe....por favor ...mi necesito un ...how u say ...what is wrong with the film? Gracias. , dõnde está el problemos (?) aqui?
2:52 probably some random guys getting ready to go out for a beer
Where is the Thames documentary about the kindergartens in the Soviet Union consisting of the children of those murdered in the Gulags!?
ThamesTV have had documentaries on the brutality of the Khmer Rogue and repression in the Eastern Bloc. From what Ive seen they’ve called out murderous dictators whether left, right or center
Pinochet saved Chile. Greetings from Croatia.
The Leftist’s description of democracy is far different than a Conservative’s description of democracy.
I have no illusions about Pinochet. Still, if forced to choose I guess I'd rather have his junta than what Allende had in store.
dang lots of fascists in the comments
Nick Josef there pretty much in the comments of every video about Pinochet
What are you Josef? Commie?
Okay comrade
Fascism is the biggest waste. Look at what fascism has done to Iran or North Korea.
Ikr lol a bunch of fatasses with kekistsn flags on their rooms
Now, my Limey friend, tell us about communism.
Communist propaganda movie
Really unfair your message. Whem General Pinochet took poder Chile was the second poorest country im América. Whem he left Chile was the Best country im América.
The GDP literally fell through the floor and wealth inequality rose under his government
@TheAnnoyedHumanist People getting richer faster than others is not an indication of a drop in gdp, envy-driven red.
@@robertortiz-wilson1588 he said AND inequality rose. Learn how to read Jesus fu cking Christ you're an embarresment to humanity.
The Chilean election two days ago was a full blown rejection of Pinochet neoliberalism, so obviously the people of Chile do not remember him fondly
As I understand the election was rather close no? And what of the buses?
@@jaysontadlock1871 would you consider 56% to 44% close?
@@dro_dozer Considering the race was between a communist and a nazi id say that pretty damn close yes.
@@jaysontadlock1871 how was Kast a Nazi? You have no idea how his fathers family was treated in Germany?
I don’t think you understand what neoliberalism actually entails. Modern “economists” place the start of neoliberal economic policy with the beginning of Pinochet’s reign, but they are gravely mistaken.
Pinochet’s economy more closely resembles that of Putin’s Russia. There is some privatization, but the country’s most important industries are owned by the state. Both also have thrown much of the oligarchy in jail and crushed foreign influence, both in the political and economic spheres.
This is clearly not neoliberalism in the American or EU sense, rather a different hybrid of small-scale capitalism and state control of large industrial sectors. You could call it a well-managed, authoritarian, pragmatic state market system whose main goal is to keep the nation afloat with little regard for the interests of foreign capital.
If it wasn't for Chile, more lives would have been lost. We owe them a lot.
What do you mean?
@@pabloalvarado4465 Chile have Britain valuable military intelligence during Falklands conflict. That's why Thatcher allowed pinochet to exile in UK.
@@rockysablue Ah alright.
Chile and UK had a long relationship for centuries and still enjoy good relations. That said, if Allende had still been in power by 81 the UK would not have received help from Chile and Chile would of been invaded by Argentina after the Falklands.
Did you know that neo liberalism (created in Chile by the Chicago boys) was adopted by Thatcher and Reagan to better their economies, this same economic model that made Chile the economic power house became. Chile became the most stable country in LA, with the highest minimum wage in the region etc., all because of the Chicago boys economics, experts employed by the junta! There is a lot more that people are not told, they only hear what the socialists want them to hear.
*Pinochet*
purging the universities... sounds like a good idea actually..
Long overdue. As are the return of the helicopter rides
Ya keep'em dumb, ignorant and pliable like you sounds like a good idea. Nothing like a society of idiots. WTF? Read a book it'll do you good.
Pinochet, Maggie Thatcher's friend....and after watching this perhaps also her mentor...both champions of democracy. To the point that she went of her way to stop him being extradited to Spain....a member of NATO and EEC....well done, the first nail on the British Euro participation
Based Margaret should have jailed the British traitor tankies as well
Pinochet assisted the British in the Falklands conflict and Thatcher was thankful for his help. Pragmatism not Idealism is what makes the world work. It's not easy to find a nice innocent country with no skeletons in their cupboard.
@@goodnightvienna8511 When Thatcher went to war and even after the war she justified her actions claiming it was a war against a dictatorship. I understand even the point that Chile had on collaborating against Argentina. I'm just calling things for what they are.
@@hernan5940 and you are correct in every way. Gracias.
neither Allende or Pinochet were correct in what they did, in the rural situation in particular, Allende taking land from companies and large estates of wealthy land owners was wrong likewise Pinochet taking land from peasants that have lived there for all there lives was also wrong. seems that Chile enjoyed one great decade in the 1960s and didn't get back to being great until after Pinochet left office and democracy was restored. in the end politics creates to many problems, the left gets in control fucks things up and the right comes in angry as ever and the pendulum swings radically the other way and vice versa, Chile got lucky the radicalness ended after Pinochet left but I fear it's only a matter of time before things go wrong again. the only way to ensure it doesn't happen again is to rid our selves of government entirely, stop the politics and realize people own them selves. freedom of association always, government never.
What is "democracy"? It works more ore less in normal times, but not at all in crisis times. Pinochet was the right man at the right place. As for the casualties, try and think at the 10,000s of people dead working to the Danube-Black Sea-Canal. The goooood commies!
The pain of the economic correction under Pinochet taints the growth which is due to the reforms that the democratic era takes credit for.
Libertard= opinion discarded
One sided comemtary, one sided documentary. I would take everything they say with a pinch of salt
Are you saying that Pinochet was a benign leader and Chile was an open democracy? Come on. He threw his enemies from helicopters.
Possibly a "Pinochet" of salt...
@@woden22 underrated comment
Pinochet was a benefactor if the Chilean people and humanity, but by no means perfect. Neither his humanity nor his circumstances allowed for that.
This is a great comment! I apréciate it! Real, without bias of ideology
Yes
Pig
@@williamwooten6156 no
@@williamwooten6156 im Chile
@@elsoldadochileno6092 HEIL PINOCHET 🇨🇱🏴☠️
Those generals were wearing German army helmets....hmmmmm
Prussian tradition
Chileans copied Prussian military doctrine and style during the 19th century.
Same ideologies,same tactics...horror
@@smaragdastefani3338 No.
@@cyrusol Why not?Both regimes committed crimes against humanity, tortures,persecutions,concentration camps,human rights violations. Am I mistaken?
More of our world famous British propaganda
Typical British ignoramus
The very same people who condemn Pinochet's regime for being a vicious dictator (a person who brought an economic miracle to Chile and held a referendum for the people to decide whether he would stay or not, the people voted no and he left) are THE SAME PEOPLE who praise or whitewash the Castro regime. Cuba is in ruins and over 20% of her people live in exile. Ask any Latin American if they had to chose between living in Chile or living in Cuba, the ABSOLUTE majority would prefer the former. Yes Pinochet was a dictator, but be wary of those who make it seem that he was a genocidal monster....they ALWAYS have a political agenda. You can't pretend to care about human rights if you only condemn the human rights abuses of "right" wing dictatorships.
It's a question of vocabulary: they are using the hackneyed saying - the "left" wing dictatorships are fighting against exploitation! Hahahaha! They said im my country that "capitalism ist the exploitation of man by the man; communism is just the reverse"!
How about we agree that all dictatorships are bad, communist or free market neoliberals. I am neither.
I saw first hand the repression and abuses of human rights and the rights of workers unions and students . I was a member of an Australian trade union and amenesty international delegation to Chile in January 1974 .
Repression of communists like yourself you mean
So you were a commie punk. Got it.
Communists get what they deserved.
Wow. The amount of troll farming going on for this video is scary.
Sulpbot 3000 Nice straw man.
Note the music 13:30 in. Mercy Mercy Me by Marvin Gaye. Likely banned if they knew what the song was about.
Let's hope Europa gets a Pinochet soon❤
Um.. Where was Homelander (US world police)? May all caught up in this growing pain, only such a short time ago, RIP
HERO
While democracy died, Chile’s economic boomed and is called the Chilean Miracle today. Chile has the highest economic freedom in South America with the highest average salary, thank you Capitalism.
General Pinochet , good friend and ally of Margaret Thatcher .
A fascist murderer puppet of the imperialism (UK include)
@Ian Davis partly true , don't forget Allende saying
''his government will reach the true socialist
revolution by justice or by violence'' , his own words , and do not forget , how much the communist and socialist parties wanted the war the revolution Pinochet did for Chile more than any President of Chile during the 20th century and even today in the 21st century Chile is still growing and harvesting the fruits of the economic changes made during his ''PRESIDENCY''
@Ian Davis3200 VICTIMS OF THE LEFT DURING THE THE MILITARY GOVERNMENT , MANY OF THOSE DIED FIGHTING , WEAPONS IN HAND , MANY OF THOSE WHERE EXECUTED IN FRONT OF THE FIRING SQUAD OTHERS WHERE SIMPLY TORTURED TO DEATH . 700 MEMBERS OF THE ARMED FORCES AND POLICE WHERE ASSASSINATED IN TERRORIST ATTACKS , OR COMBAT WITH THE LEFT WING TERRORIST, PLUS ABOUT 300 INNOCENT PEOPLE DIED DUE TO COLLATERAL DAMAGE. THAT IN 17 YEARS OF ''GENOCIDE '' AS THEY LIKE TO PORTRAIT IT. THIS STATISTICS WERE ACCEPTED EVEN BY THE COMMUNIST VERMIN.
People danced in the streets and kept requesting Ding Dong The Witch Is Gone on the radio when Margaret Thatcher died too!
@@matthewtorok-smith1967 Well she ruined the lives of the coal miners and ordinary workers.
Jesus stands with Pinochet
Has Jesus talked to you?
Why don't have Spanish subtitles?
“Sugar for the children’s coffee”…wait what?
It was something warm to give them and it was cheaper then tea
@@lissettjacobson7986 they deserve no more than clean water
Keep in mind that the military actions of 1973 were requested by the political parties Christian Democracy and Party for Democracy. The chilean armed forces didn't act by themselves alone.
Today, most of the population are calling back the armed forces to release Chile from the Communist Coup currently taking place in 2019.
It seems that every 40 years or so, Chile needs an Iron Fist to rule them.
CIA executed this!
CIA was in Chile because the KGB had been there since 1960 trying to subvert the country. They created the MIR in 1965 and other armed leftist groups that reigned terror and death on the Chile people through the late 60's and early 70's. Watch this lecture, he mentions Chile in it. ruclips.net/video/5gnpCqsXE8g/видео.html Yuri Bezmenov is a hero!
Fascinating
Please up date this film and report what Chile is today. At least Chile is not Cuba, Venezuela or Nicaragua, ALL DISASTERS
In communist country was it normal life! Pinochet did give Chile future!
Pinochet only bringed disgrace and suffering to chile, he didn't do any good. Just a fucking puppet of the CIA.
@@pabloalvarado4465 hahaha Venceremos stupido!
the country was doing great until the US saw Chile as a threat. they stopped loans and funded the coup. educate yourself on the topic before making stupid statements.
My best friend is a Chilean who has confirmed to me that this is rubbish and not at all what Chile was like under the administration of Pinochet.
Journalist plays widely dumb about the Cold War at the time
and the People blew their Torch of Freedom to dust with a powerful artifact. It marked the beginning of the peoples Resistance against the tyrant
What a loaded propaganda from the British TV LMAO 🤣🤣 Their soviet alliegence is showing
Shows you what happens when U.S. gets involved. The theories of Milton Friedman gave him the Nobel Prize: they gave Chile General Pinochet.
Pepe'.... warm the choppa
In your dreams, bootlicking loser
Hans, hol den Hubschrauber!
What the Chilean media won't show you.
What the American govermend dont want you to know, Convessions of a Economic Hitman by John Perkins.
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Where this good anticommunizt conutry?
A mediocre general. A mediocre assassin . A mediocre dictator. A mediocre Judas
Looking to theses comments i can only say ignorance is not a blessing, it is a convenience.
Wish pinochet would come back. Times were much better back then.
Grande mi general capitan futa lonco presidente y libertador de Chile exterminador de cucarachas mejor que tanax
I listen to that music at the beginning and just takes me back to my country of birth, my parents, and all that has followed. Things have not changed in Chile. Chile is still ruled with an iron fist, the poor are poorer and the rich richer than ever.
@proxin1 oh thanks for your insight I shall sleep better now....not fool
"poor are poorer and the rich richer than ever" no that's in America my friend
@@islandlife6591 you Chilean?
Same all over
@@islandlife6591 exactly, I'm poorer than those rich people back in the early 1900s.. I can only watch, communicate, and by things off a small phone in my hands. They had it better than me.
This is pure left wing BS. Presidente A. Pinochet is one of the greatest President in the history of Latin America. He not only saved Chile from becoming another Cuba or Venezuela, he transformed the Chilean economy into the best performing one in Latin America. Today Chile is the most advanced and modern country in the region. It’s neighbors Bolivia and Argentina are failed states. Chilenos enjoy one of the highest standards of living in the Americas. And most importantly once he reached this great achievement, he returned the country to democracy in a peaceful way. This is totally unthinkable for bloody left-wing dictators such as Chavez, Maduro or the Castros...
Lest we learn from nearly 50 years ago with his coronavirus were headed down the same track in the United States
Yes I truly believe this! Absolutely!..it will all be here before we know it!!..
Oh god shut up🤦🏻♂️
@@abrahamrodriguezpineda1848 Are you Chilean?
Viva general!🇨🇱🇨🇱🇨🇱
Mi General
Much like what is happening in Iran !
U2 got a great song out of all this.
So did Pinochet
@@chasemcpot7789 Nice
Only good U2 song are the ones they don't release..
Which one?
@@abrahamrodriguezpineda1848
One Tree Hill