The suicide scene reminds me of the scene where he gives apples to his colleagues, trying to be friendly. Maybe the screenwriter intended to make such subtle connections to emphasize how tragic it was that he died alone with a poisoned apple after being convicted and totally isolated by the society.
Hannah Elizabeth One theory says that he chose to eat a poisoned apple because his favourite fairy tale was Snow white and the seven dwarfs, in which Snow White also gets poisoned by an apple.
Now personally ( only my opinion ) in my opinion a person shoukdnt be jailed for soemthing they cant even help . He was prayed and was a good man . He did not deserve the weight bearing on his shoulders of the time . He was going to jail for literally no reason and that was the code he couldnt crack. Nobody deserved to be considered a criminal like that . Personally I'm surprised how somebody's life had to come to an end like that .
In an interview Benedict state while they did film the scene, they didn’t want his death to overshadow what he’s done all throughout his life. They wanted the movie to be filled with his greatest achievements and highlights, instead of the tragic fatal end that was inevitable to come.
I feel disgusted on how society worked and how such a man’s life had been so cruel because of something as simple as his sexuality. It’s something that is frustrating to think about really, if the times were changed how successful he would have been, how much love and appreciation he would have gotten....a nice life...but the world was/is a cruel place and somehow the best people get persecuted..... RIP Alan Turing, you deserved the world, one that is much better than ours....
I don't support the lgbt community, but it wasn't about choice in the 40's like now. If people were homosexual during Turing's time, it was because they couldn't help it. And Alan was like this since he was a kid, because he loved a boy at boarding school. He was born this way.
Snow White was he's favor movie, perhaps what he did in the end he wishes someone could kiss him to awaken into a happy everafter... I'm talking about in real live even has been over more than half of century, R.I.P. Mr. Alan Turing, for the things you've done for us and keep on fighting for the right to love regardless whatever sexual orientation you are, after you've gone...
had just finished d movie n i am still in tears... its beautiful... n so sad for alan... i literally wanna give him a hug while watching it..... y can't society accept people hu r different??
Fun fact: Steve Jobs got the idea of the apple logo because he considered Turing a hero and made the logo an apple with a bite in it since that's how Turing died
Sadly it has proven to be false. Nobody really knows about the original meaning behind the logo. Some said it had to do with Sir Isaac Newton while others said it had to do with Adam and Eve's Apple but all have proven false. Even the designer of the Logo did not draw it with any meaning behind it, the bite was made in the apple to make it clearly visible as an apple at all times and not a cherry. It's a wonderful myth though and i wished it was true
The creator of the logo said as much. In a 2009 interview with CreativeBits, Rob Janoff, the man who drew the logo, reflected on the theories about his work. He dismisses Sir Isaac or the Bible as source material and, while he says he is charmed by the links with the Turing story, he says he was unaware of them at the time. "I'm afraid it didn't have a thing to do with it," he said. "It's a wonderful urban legend."
Such a shame Alan was portrayed as an antisocial outcast when according to friends he was anything but - he travelled extensively and worked with many other scientists. Wonder if he'd be annoyed that we all feel 'sorry' for him?
I don't think he'd be annoyed that we feel sorry for him because he went through lots of injustices regarding his sexuality and in the movie I'd say he tries to be sociable and kind but is constantly ridiculed and mistreated
@@espressoanon3040 Well i think you need to watch a documentary on Alan where it says otherwise. He was comfortable amongst his own group of friends and rather sociable. He travelled widely too. I doubt he was constantly mistreated at all. Of course there was much injustice at the time - as there was for all men of his persuasion.
@lola laa It's true school days can be tough and was for him too. But around people of a common interest he was more comfortable. He often went to bars to chat to men
fun fact in the script: - They watch as the papers flutter down into the fire. They laugh, and one by one they all join in: They FROLIC and PLAY as they throw every document, every slip of scratch paper, every bit of evidence they were there into the fire. TITLE: In 1990, John Cairncross publicly confessed to having been a Soviet agent. He was never prosecuted. TITLE: In 2013, Turing was granted an official pardon by the government. Approximately 49,000 other gay men were convicted and punished under the same code between 1885 and 1967. TITLE: The logo of Apple Computer - an apple with a bite taken out of it - has long been rumored to be a silent tribute to Turing. These rumors have never been confirmed. ALAN TURING (V.O.) Well then. ON ALAN AND THE TEAM: Hugging and playing as everything they did is burnt to a crisp. ALAN TURING (V.O.) Any questions? BLACK.
Salman Farizi i am so upset that they did not include these scenes in the film ughhhhhh what a pity! and 'any questions?' line beautifully connects with the very first line 'are you paying attention?' good god
When it comes to the logo of the apple Computer, Steve Jobs said in an interview that he did not know the story of Alan Turings death prior to creating the Apple logo, although he said it would have been a brilliant fit. In terms of the logo itself, the bite in the apple was only added for scale so viewers would not confuse it with a cherry.
What many people don't know is Alan turins story influenced some of the greatest minds out there, any of you that have an iPhone look at the back of your phone...doesn't the symbol look similar... gave me goosebumps when I first heard that and seen this scene.
My grandfather said the FBI of this era was the most racist, sexist, and homophobic organization he'd ever worked for. He was a cryptographer in WW2 and his hero was Alan Turing. He never forgave the US Government for our part in Turing's misery. He said "The world owes Alan Turing everything, but firstly it owes him an apology." My grandfather passed a few years ago at 94, and spoke of Turing very often.
Well I've a theory. Alan M. Turing's mother Sara Turing wrote a biography about him after his passing away in his memoir. She never believed that his son could attempt suicide and die like this. As we know he used to do work with Cyanide and also used to eat an apple every night before going to bed, her mom firmly believed that it was an accident due to his carelessness. However, at the beginning of the film, there is a significant scene. When his house was burgled, he covered his nose and mouth while cleaning up to protect himself from the undiluted cyanide that had fallen on the ground. He even warned the police officers not to come closer. This clearly indicates that he was acutely aware of the dangers of the exposure of cyanide. A son is always a son / child to his mother (who can be careless, immature and, childlike always) but reality is different. He's the greatest brain to design the Turing Bombe, the machine that automated the process of breaking Enigma codes at Bletchley Park. So it's certainly a SUICIDE. Not "ACCIDENT". RIP ALAN TURING. YOU'RE MY HERO 🪻
The whole country owes so much to him yet he was railroaded by the legal system. There is no way to undo the wrongs done to him but at least he is being recognized and appreciated now for his service.
I wish they kept the end scene in the movie where the policeman who convicted Alan seen him in his bed as the guilt in his face when he read about his conviction in the newspaper knowing he was helping to punish alan when he actually saved every single person in the country and then leading to his unfortunate suicide i mean the guilt you can feel it when he looked at him in bed, he basically helped push alan to his death with getting him convicted and the irony he thought he was a spy for the enemy and actually was the bravest man and helped end the world of the greatest fascism threat.
go to be the beginning of the movie, Stewart Menzies gets a message that the police are investigating Turing so he has the records erased and also has the police followed to make sure they don't get to Turing.
amazing move, just do your research as this movie has left out key people and taken more creative liberties. p.s he did not name the machine christopher or have it in his house.
I presume to delay the policeman, so he could look like he was on the run from the policeman, without the policeman in tow, as the Foreign Office guy could have done a runner if approached by the uniformed policeman.
Collin Berend Are you talking about the real life people who drove him to it, or the writers? Because this is not a fictional story. Alan Turing did commit suicide, it would be an injustice to history to say he didn't. This is a movie based off of his story.
Laura Zaetz No, actually he didn't. It was greatly assumed to be an accident, not pure suicide. It's still debated. And I am talking about the real one, obviously. And the movie is fictitious a but. It's not 100% accurate.
The suicide scene reminds me of the scene where he gives apples to his colleagues, trying to be friendly. Maybe the screenwriter intended to make such subtle connections to emphasize how tragic it was that he died alone with a poisoned apple after being convicted and totally isolated by the society.
Thats how he actually killed himself in real life actually
Hannah Elizabeth One theory says that he chose to eat a poisoned apple because his favourite fairy tale was Snow white and the seven dwarfs, in which Snow White also gets poisoned by an apple.
Now personally ( only my opinion ) in my opinion a person shoukdnt be jailed for soemthing they cant even help . He was prayed and was a good man . He did not deserve the weight bearing on his shoulders of the time . He was going to jail for literally no reason and that was the code he couldnt crack. Nobody deserved to be considered a criminal like that . Personally I'm surprised how somebody's life had to come to an end like that .
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I can’t express with words how angered I am at some of the laws put in place.
They should have added the suicide scene too. Really impactful. Even the score to the particular scene is outstanding. Amazing movie though
Yea, it was probably a thing of ....the director thought "we could've done that better" and then they didn't have time to, so they just left it out.
In an interview Benedict state while they did film the scene, they didn’t want his death to overshadow what he’s done all throughout his life.
They wanted the movie to be filled with his greatest achievements and highlights, instead of the tragic fatal end that was inevitable to come.
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I'm so jealous of those who knew him and furious of those who drove him to that
Precisely!
Absolutely.
Same
Trying to watch the ending of this movie without crying is like trying to breath underwater, it can’t be done
True
1. I had wondered where he got that request form. 2. Now I know why there is a track on the soundtrack called "The Apple"
I feel disgusted on how society worked and how such a man’s life had been so cruel because of something as simple as his sexuality. It’s something that is frustrating to think about really, if the times were changed how successful he would have been, how much love and appreciation he would have gotten....a nice life...but the world was/is a cruel place and somehow the best people get persecuted..... RIP Alan Turing, you deserved the world, one that is much better than ours....
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I don't support the lgbt community, but it wasn't about choice in the 40's like now. If people were homosexual during Turing's time, it was because they couldn't help it. And Alan was like this since he was a kid, because he loved a boy at boarding school. He was born this way.
He probably deserves the George Cross instead they hounded him to death.
im actually crying i cried when i watched the movie and when i thought i had moved on, i found this, poor Alan he deserved better 😭😢💔
i had a total mental breakdown
ME TOO!!!! 😭😭😭😭😭 I’m 16 and it was the first and only movie i have ever cried in
It's heartbreaking to know the story of Alan. The society treated him very badly.
THIS is the scene that would have completely destroyed me
And it's all true :(
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I wish they kept in the suicide scene. Extremely powerful and goes to show that not everybody gets a happy ending
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True but some claim that he was suicided.
Snow White was he's favor movie, perhaps what he did in the end he wishes someone could kiss him to awaken into a happy everafter... I'm talking about in real live
even has been over more than half of century, R.I.P. Mr. Alan Turing, for the things you've done for us and keep on fighting for the right to love regardless whatever sexual orientation you are, after you've gone...
Katerina Luna diCamella salute to you
Okay do you want me to cry ?
had just finished d movie n i am still in tears... its beautiful... n so sad for alan... i literally wanna give him a hug while watching it..... y can't society accept people hu r different??
Fun fact: Steve Jobs got the idea of the apple logo because he considered Turing a hero and made the logo an apple with a bite in it since that's how Turing died
Sadly it has proven to be false. Nobody really knows about the original meaning behind the logo. Some said it had to do with Sir Isaac Newton while others said it had to do with Adam and Eve's Apple but all have proven false.
Even the designer of the Logo did not draw it with any meaning behind it, the bite was made in the apple to make it clearly visible as an apple at all times and not a cherry.
It's a wonderful myth though and i wished it was true
The creator of the logo said as much.
In a 2009 interview with CreativeBits, Rob Janoff, the man who drew the logo, reflected on the theories about his work. He dismisses Sir Isaac or the Bible as source material and, while he says he is charmed by the links with the Turing story, he says he was unaware of them at the time.
"I'm afraid it didn't have a thing to do with it," he said. "It's a wonderful urban legend."
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Maltige Key the apple represents the creation. Look the movie Steve Jobs and you will see it.The beginig of a new era
Nonsense. The Apple logo was in use long before the movie came out.
They didn't need it. I was crying buckets by that point anyway.
Such a shame Alan was portrayed as an antisocial outcast when according to friends he was anything but - he travelled extensively and worked with many other scientists. Wonder if he'd be annoyed that we all feel 'sorry' for him?
I don't think he'd be annoyed that we feel sorry for him because he went through lots of injustices regarding his sexuality and in the movie I'd say he tries to be sociable and kind but is constantly ridiculed and mistreated
@@espressoanon3040 Well i think you need to watch a documentary on Alan where it says otherwise. He was comfortable amongst his own group of friends and rather sociable. He travelled widely too. I doubt he was constantly mistreated at all. Of course there was much injustice at the time - as there was for all men of his persuasion.
@lola laa It's true school days can be tough and was for him too. But around people of a common interest he was more comfortable. He often went to bars to chat to men
God I loved this movie!
fun fact in the script:
- They watch as the papers flutter down into the fire.
They laugh, and one by one they all join in:
They FROLIC and PLAY as they throw every document, every slip
of scratch paper, every bit of evidence they were there into
the fire.
TITLE: In 1990, John Cairncross publicly confessed to having
been a Soviet agent. He was never prosecuted.
TITLE: In 2013, Turing was granted an official pardon by the
government. Approximately 49,000 other gay men were convicted
and punished under the same code between 1885 and 1967.
TITLE: The logo of Apple Computer - an apple with a bite
taken out of it - has long been rumored to be a silent
tribute to Turing. These rumors have never been confirmed.
ALAN TURING (V.O.)
Well then.
ON ALAN AND THE TEAM: Hugging and playing as everything they
did is burnt to a crisp.
ALAN TURING (V.O.)
Any questions?
BLACK.
Salman Farizi i am so upset that they did not include these scenes in the film ughhhhhh what a pity! and 'any questions?' line beautifully connects with the very first line 'are you paying attention?' good god
When it comes to the logo of the apple Computer, Steve Jobs said in an interview that he did not know the story of Alan Turings death prior to creating the Apple logo, although he said it would have been a brilliant fit. In terms of the logo itself, the bite in the apple was only added for scale so viewers would not confuse it with a cherry.
when does it say are you paying attention? i cant find it
The very first line of the movie...? Page 1 in the script?
What does, "V.O.." mean?
Thank you very much for this. I am a great admirer of actor Rory Kinnear, who plays Robert Nock in the film.
Should have kept the scenes in... or at least have made an extended cut of the film
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What many people don't know is Alan turins story influenced some of the greatest minds out there, any of you that have an iPhone look at the back of your phone...doesn't the symbol look similar... gave me goosebumps when I first heard that and seen this scene.
😮😮😮😮 wait…. What??? Omg! I only just realised that!!!
My grandfather said the FBI of this era was the most racist, sexist, and homophobic organization he'd ever worked for. He was a cryptographer in WW2 and his hero was Alan Turing. He never forgave the US Government for our part in Turing's misery. He said "The world owes Alan Turing everything, but firstly it owes him an apology." My grandfather passed a few years ago at 94, and spoke of Turing very often.
this was in great britain not united states
Foi pego no pulo hein amigão 😂
Well I've a theory. Alan M. Turing's mother Sara Turing wrote a biography about him after his passing away in his memoir. She never believed that his son could attempt suicide and die like this. As we know he used to do work with Cyanide and also used to eat an apple every night before going to bed, her mom firmly believed that it was an accident due to his carelessness.
However, at the beginning of the film, there is a significant scene. When his house was burgled, he covered his nose and mouth while cleaning up to protect himself from the undiluted cyanide that had fallen on the ground. He even warned the police officers not to come closer. This clearly indicates that he was acutely aware of the dangers of the exposure of cyanide.
A son is always a son / child to his mother (who can be careless, immature and, childlike always) but reality is different. He's the greatest brain to design the Turing Bombe, the machine that automated the process of breaking Enigma codes at Bletchley Park.
So it's certainly a SUICIDE. Not "ACCIDENT".
RIP ALAN TURING. YOU'RE MY HERO 🪻
The whole country owes so much to him yet he was railroaded by the legal system. There is no way to undo the wrongs done to him but at least he is being recognized and appreciated now for his service.
How can he leave his machine alone?
What´s the music that starts at 3:30? It´s not in the official soundtrack unfortunately.
I wish they kept the end scene in the movie where the policeman who convicted Alan seen him in his bed as the guilt in his face when he read about his conviction in the newspaper knowing he was helping to punish alan when he actually saved every single person in the country and then leading to his unfortunate suicide i mean the guilt you can feel it when he looked at him in bed, he basically helped push alan to his death with getting him convicted and the irony he thought he was a spy for the enemy and actually was the bravest man and helped end the world of the greatest fascism threat.
The suicide scene should have been added
He died like Snow White and he is gone forever.
But... Why was that guy following him?
go to be the beginning of the movie, Stewart Menzies gets a message that the police are investigating Turing so he has the records erased and also has the police followed to make sure they don't get to Turing.
WELL I JUST CRIED
amazing move, just do your research as this movie has left out key people and taken more creative liberties.
p.s he did not name the machine christopher or have it in his house.
Agreed. Visit Bletchley Park in the UK to get the whole story.
The apple...
One name: STEVE JOBS
it was just coincidence
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The Apple Logo - A rainbow coloured half-eaten apple. Makes sense now? 2024
? I saw these scenes in American cable TV version.
NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
Both these scenes should have been left in they add so much more context
What is the music that starts at 3:04?
It is a temp track from the Prisoners soundtrack. I think it is I Can’t Find Them by Johann Johannsson.
@@now4393 thanks you!
NO 😭
Really cool scene however I'm glad it didn't make the final cut...
Instead of imitation game
The movie title should have been
The world that didn't deserve Alan Turing
Why deleted?
why did he have to punch the police officer?
I presume to delay the policeman, so he could look like he was on the run from the policeman, without the policeman in tow, as the Foreign Office guy could have done a runner if approached by the uniformed policeman.
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Part of UK's eternal shame.
I brawled
Delete: means: 'remove or obliterate'. So therefore these are not very obliterated scenes are they? No. I think not.
which means someone murder him?
No, he committed suicide...
@@sarojmore6676 well from my point of view it was murder , system is convicted for this murder of a brilliant mind and personality .
I dislike how they make his death suicide.
Collin Berend Are you talking about the real life people who drove him to it, or the writers? Because this is not a fictional story. Alan Turing did commit suicide, it would be an injustice to history to say he didn't. This is a movie based off of his story.
Collin Berend Did you know that Steve Jobs chose the bitten apple for Apple's logo to remember Alan Turing?
Laura Zaetz
No, actually he didn't. It was greatly assumed to be an accident, not pure suicide. It's still debated. And I am talking about the real one, obviously. And the movie is fictitious a but. It's not 100% accurate.
Ryan Chou
No, I did not. If that is true, that is an interesting one and makes sense.
Collin Berend en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Turing
i didn't know this until i went to wikipedia after i watched the movie