tyres ! tyres! tyres! I've seen normal cars(front two wheel drive) with snow (winter tyres ) OR four season tyres outperform 4x4 suvs with normal (non winter Tyres sometimes referred to as summer tyres although that description is inaccuarate ) on many occasions and it's hilarious to see them go by expensive 4x4s in little fiats or fords etc on icey snow covered inclined roads .
all season tires are a myth. There is summer or winter tires. Some people (and firms) drive winter tires all year round and in most European counties it is not legal to have summer (all) season tires during winter
@@GodricThe the michelin cross climate and goodyear vector 4 seasons are all season tyres. Not as good as a winter tyre in winter, not as good as a summer tyre in summer but Good enough to work well in both conditions.
I used to own Range Rover Sport which almost identical to the Disco. I must say it is very capable off roader. I climbed steeper slopes with much more snow with just normal winter tyres. The thing is that most LR owners make a mistake by switching to "grass gravel and snow" mode. This mode is when driving with certain speed on a slippery road. In this case when it is deep snow they should do with "sand" mode. The result is greater performance in the deep snow. Even more that this car got low range gear
I expected the cars wouldn't do much without sufficient grip from the tyres. But I haven't expected their results would be practically the same. And I'm getting more and more convinced to buy a cheap duster for my "driving my dog for a walk" needs.
Results are not the same, dacia make trail and lanf rover just follow it, land rover never drive first in pure snow, if it would do it dont move 5m from pth for sure...
The Duster was not designed to beat any reputable off roader but from the price it costs, it's a very decent car. And if we consider the costs of maintenance I think it's a good option in that price range. If you can't afford a premium of course.
That sound is not normal, somewhere lose power and bost. I have that on a octavia 2 2.0 tdi :))) and it was from turbo and an air pipe. In other words the car in the video it s not work at full power.
I guess that the sound comes from the turbo stalling (Stalling = Blowing intake air backwards through the turbo and air filter when the engine no longer is loaded)
OMG! the descovery will reach the top with this modification: 1.. DSC OFF!! Programm Snow and deflate the tyres to 1,5 bar.! Looks like the publisher don't knows, how a Discovery must be handeld in this conditions...
This is a bit uneven match , put chains on both and both will go up , but for the difference in price the duster is giving the disc a run for its money , I have the 2 wheel drive 1. 3 TC duster , love it . C Taylor .
Very gooood little Duster. The Landrover performed also good, but all its modes seems rubbish and did not significant improved the performences. Once again Duster proves that more money dosen't always mean better. After seeing how well performed agains Audi and now Landrover, I seriously consider a Duster for offroad expeditions. I don't want to weast money on feancy cars if they are not any better.
Check out the new Suzuki Jimny if you want excellent off road performance for little money. On an expedition, your big concern will be maintenance and reliability. Yeah, these models of Land Rover are not about pure off road performance, they are a lot more about being a comfortable luxury car. It would do better with better tires, but as said, if you just want off road performance, you get that for a lot less money and with much simpler tech than in the D3.
@Razvan J If you need to build speed, you want any car with a 4WD that is not only based on traction control with brakes ( they are too slow reactive systems and will slow the vehicle down, brake based traction control is good on slow action ). It needs either true diff lock, manual or automatic on the driving axles, or a good limited slip differential. Jimny of course as standard doesn't probably have any axle lockers, but I would expect the aftermarket availability for parts to be excellent in the Jimny.
@Razvan J Torque vectoring diffs are very good, but they are technically complicate, and as a result they have their own type of problems (depending of which type of torque vectoring diff it exactly is). Manual lock is not brutal, it just requires driver to know how to operate it. With incorrect use and stupid driver everything can be destroyed. Automatic simple locks probably are quite brutal, there I agree with you that they probably aren't very good choice.
I’m Land Rover through to my DNA but the Duster compared well whatever the setup. We have a 2018 Evoque in UK and a 2004 Jimny in Greece and we are thinking of changing to a Duster in Greece so this vid was helpful to see - thanks for sharing guys 👍
Coenraad Lourens ha ha! You don’t even know the BS you are shovelling off other people - the vast majority of hairdressers couldn’t even afford one and you must drive a hairdryer as you know F£&k all about motor vehicles 🙃
Comparing a very old, under-powered, overly heavy Disco 3 with a more modern budget 4x4 does nobody any favours. The Disco is by far the cheaper and better option... with the correct tyres. A Disco 2 for $1000 or £1000 would be better than both.
hearing these cars full throttle with no grip makes me cry... I love cars, love to push them, but that's just disrespecting your tool from my point of view :/
Nice video. I've owned a Range Rover Sport HSE V8 for 14 years now (still running great, no issues if properly serviced), and I know from experience that the LR3 would do much better if set up properly. Lots of people who own Land Rovers ( LR3s or Range Rovers) don't know that although they are 4WD full time, under normal setup the differentials are open! That means that the center and rear diff locks who are electronically controlled, will NOT engage under wheel spin even if traction control is OFF. To do that, you must select Terrain Response program suitable for the situation. You can verify that and see it on the navigation screen if you select '4x4 INFO" on the display. It will show the differential locks and indicate when they engage ( Green colour or Red). IF you select "Grass, Gravel, Snow' it will start in second gear though. To avoid that you can go MANUAL ( by shifting the gear selector to the left) or choose Mud or Sand. Also Traction Control should be OFF , otherwise the power will cut out if there is excessive wheel spin. Remember always to turn Hill Descent ON, even if you are going Uphill. That would prevent your brakes from locking up when you want to go backwards (in REVERSE gear) and hold the vehicle under controlled engine brake ( LOW gearing must be used as well). Now, i live in Canada and i know that the best winter tires are Nokian ( i use Hakkapelitta 9 with studs), although in your case you could use a good mudd tire, since ice is not much of an issue in your country. My Rover weighs over 3 tons (3172Kgs) but it would fly over that hill when driven properly. Im sure the Dacia is a nice little truck as well. Land Rovers are still very capable off road vehicles no matter what other people say!
@@TheKiwibambam are you blind? every attempt they did is better with stupid dsc off. this will confirm you every driver, that have ever try to win steep uphill road covered with snow (me included), 2wd, 4wd whatever. dsc also cutting you off power etc and it the end makes everything worse.
I was very impressed with the performance of the Duster so l would choose that as the narrow winner, it would have been even more interesting also having a Land Rover series 3 88" diesel and a Land Rover V8 90" as well, both being more old school offroaders with no electronics to get in the way!
Would have been interesting to see the cars reverse up the hill, the front wheels would have benefited from much more grip. Also the Discovery's wheels are spinning at separate times which shows that diff lock was not engaged.
This test was designed for the Duster to look good. The Discovery has an off road mode (snow mode) that locks the centre and rear diff. Why are these not engaged? What are you testing by switching them off. You must test an off roader with all its functions.
Looks like you gave a poor run-up and sounds like you kept taking your foot off the accelerator on the LR3. Owned one for some time now, they are remarkable off road vehicles.
Bad choice of tyres and obviously inexperience drives, especially the one in the Discovery. With my Cooper Discoverer STT Max, I could climb this on one go.
@@philyew3617 Bullshit, I've driven auto and manual. The two autos were D1 V8 and a D3 TDV6, autos are much better off road because you don't loose momentum.
First issue, the nokian tyres on the Duster are better than pirelli scorpion on Lrd3 in big snow conditions. Anyway, in big snow, tyre profile and pressure make the difference. I am sure that with better tyres both cars can climbe that slope. I got a Lrd3, 2,7 liter factory version( no tunnings for offroad) equiped with General Grabber 2 tyres on the original rims.. On low tyre pressure (1,4- 1,6 ) , no DSC mode, sand mode selected, and with full gas on 2nd gear, low range mode, my LRD3 will climb that slope with no problem. I always have an electric air pump in my Lrd3 for this kind of issues. Any Lrd3 driver will confirm that this car on slippery roads with high tyre pressure will go anywhere else then the road, even on low speed, i don't want to talk about sudden brakes.
MrGoMario I’m referring to the fact that traditional 4x4s can be driven in 4WD Hi without the center diff locked at any speed whereas the Duster in Auto mode is really only 2WD unless the wheels slip and then for a moment the car goes into 4WD to regain traction. Of course you don’t drive a Land Rover or Toyota LC with a locked center diff at hi speeds.
The Difference is the tyres. Pirreli Scorpion are a hard road tyre with a 'posing name'. Nokian build tyres that work. , and where I live are a third of the price. Unfortunatley Land Rover don't trust you to drive thier vehicles any more, the Nerd in the Office tells the computer and you can do nothing about it. An old lada Niva with the right tyres would have romped up that.
In show hill like this deciding factor is width of the tire and then type of the tire. 30-year old Disco 1 with proper 205/80 tires would pull that Duster to the top of that hill no problem.
@@catchawakeup6411 Yeah I do. Almost every winter pulling some stranded SUV. Unless tires are so big they can float on top of snow width won't help you ...and stop that passive-aggressive shit, will you
very similiar results from not very similiar priced suv's , if I had forked out for a landrover and needed it for off road work and not posing in then I'd be rightly pissed off😋
This isn't really a test of vehicles. It depends on the tyres. Did both have the same tyres? Looks like you had fun though. On a recent trip through Morocco with five Land Rovers you could see different tyres preformed differently on different surfaces. My car with four season tyres performs better on snow than my Defender with M&S tyres. My friend's Defender with M&S tyres slid into the ditch in the snow. The postman in his Renault Kangoo with winter tyres pulled him out. My friend had difficulty living that one down.
@@DusterCoolTravels exactly way not ? but no, is like you want to challenge a Logan with an Passat obviously you can see an opportunity to challenge any car is just waist of time but for fun works
@@ANIMshit the inside is plastic cheap plastic everywhere no confort the only good thing is a engine 1.5 diesel 4wd in the rest is just a car for mud and farming the 1.5 diesel on the highway is sluggish at 110 km/h you are at 3k rpm but is a little shrek in the concrete jungle:)))
Considering the difference in price between both cars, i'd say the Duster is clearly the winner. But then again, it's a stupid test. I'd be more impressed by a real-life test on an off the road track, with different kinds of challenges, rather than just going straight up a snowy hill. Just my opinion though. And to be honest, I'm not completely unbiased too, as I own a Duster. Much to my satisfaction ;-)
Дастер чуть выигрывает, но если бы стояла задняя блокка, то без проблем въехал в гору. Дискавери тяжелый для такого бездорожья. Но Диско намного комфортней во всём и тише по трассе и максимальная скорость выше!!! Был дастер с двумя блокировками и лифтом подвески. Теперь Диско 4, если бы не шум дизеля на ХХ, то был бы полностью идеальный автомобиль!
Se vede si se aude clar ca la discovery nu ii dai tare cum ar trebui si ca pe duster il incingi. Nu mi se pare relevant testul, trebuie conduse de acelasi sofer. Nu detin discovery sau alt model de genu deci nu tin cu respectivul
Într-adevăr, șoferul de pe land rover nu a forțat mașina că cel de pe duster. În primul rând pentru că în primele încercări de urcare a avut DSC activitat și mașina tăia din accelerație și în al doilea rând, land roverul este mult mai greu decât dusterul și dă impresia că nu este forțat când de fapt, mașina nu apucă să prindă viteză la fel ca dusterul tocmai din cauza greutății proprii și a denivelărilor din teren.
la duster are garantie la motor, la land rover - nu are. Daca sar pistoanele la duster, il duce la reprezentanta ca e proasta masina, la land rover ce sa mai fortezi motorul cand deja gafaie - scria cineva mai sus in comentarii ca acel sunet inseamna o defectiune a ansamblului motor. Si.....la orice masina de import piesele si reparatiile te usca de bani. Asa ca.... da, consider si eu irelevant testul. Au zapacit masinile degeaba (mai ales ca elementul esential din ecuatie lipseste - anvelopele allterain; nu poti cere unei masini sa urce un deal cu zapada nemiscata pe el, avand anvelope de strada), aratand un amatorism de mare clasa. Insa, adevarul este ca duster este o masina corecta din toate punctele de vedere: sasiu, motor (cred ca e 1,5 dci masina in test) iconic (atat de bun incat echipeaza si unele modele mercedes), echipare, pret. Bravo Dacia pentru ca ofera o alternativa cat-de-cat calitativa celor care doresc 4x4. Nu am vreo legatura cu dacia, nu le fac reclama. Masina personala este o Mazda 6 2.0 cd/2007 de care sunt foarte mandru.
yea no, sorry to break it to ya bud and spoil your fun, but a few things wrong with this vid here. the tires being the number one problem, and you can see it in the video when the wheels spin and the amount of snow the tires kick up. also... weight. that discovery weighs nearly 3 tones and when its being driven by a driver who doesn’t know how to properly offroad, you get the results you get demonstrated by this video. had the driver turned that DSC off from the start and had better throttle control, the disco would’ve still struggled because of the tires, but it would’ve made it up a lot sooner. it would’ve also helped if this was the Jag 4.4 V8 Discovery because the difference in power to weight ratio in the Dacia and Land Rover are immense, both have relatively the same power but one is a tank and the other a wheelbarrow
i was really excited for the Duster but i heart from owners a few complaints like the road stability isn't so good because of soft suspenion, the build quality is cheap and a lot of little but annoying stuff tend to break so can you give me your opinion on that? Like if i wanna buy this to drive it mostly on the road and ocasionaly (rarely) the need to go on some bad surface would you recomend?
@@Skyriiing I’ve had no problems at all nothing as I said I’ve done 180thousand miles no issues at all I drive it hard off road and on it’s unstoppable
cool to see the comparison, espically to see that even though thr disco is almost a tonne heavier the electronics are able to minimise the disadvantages
Foarte reusite testele, dar ar fi mult mai interesante daca ar conduce in teste un sofer care a mai condus pe zapada. La noi in Harghita daca conduci in acest mod o masina iarna ... sfarsesti prin a rade toti de tine :-)
Dacia Duster does not need to prove anything else, in this video just opening the snow trail for the Land Rover "shame". He has faced great off-road stars like Suzuki Jimny, Rav 4, X-Trail, Shogun, Tiguan, Suzuki Vitara, Audi Q5, Audi Avant, Q7, Nissan Qashqai. Dacia Duster was designed to be an urban vehicle with "LIGHT" off road characteristics. But the desperation of brands that cost three times the model, lead to these absurd comparisons, but the model ends up surprising and doing very well. Good, cheap, robust vehicle that has no chronic problems like the VW and Audi line.
Why did you not try Sand mode in the Discovery? Given you stated the snow was crunchy on top but like sand underneath? This mode keeps the gears lower and makes a lot of difference. It’s the mode I would use in that type of snow. Good info otherwise and good demo. Thanks :)
I owned a D3 - the same as in the video. The car was a piece of sh... but the 4wd system wasnt that bad. However I also have experience with pirelli and nokian tires - pirelli scorpion are the worst winter tires I ever had. Toyo, Nokian are OK and michelin are the best. The problem here: heavy car, weak tires and you should have tried the "sand"-program in these conditions. Besides the Dacia doesnt have a 4wd "lock" - what it does in "lock" mode is, that the 4wd clutch is locking more agressively (but not all the time=100%) then in standard mode but it is not really locked permanently and the more you move the steering wheel the faster the lock opens in order to prevent damage to the drive train.
Flooring isnt going to make difference. The way engines were coaxed indicate need for better tyres. Traction is lost here, not engine power. More power would just result into more wheel spin.
Duster is excellent value. Price X performance value great. I have 1997 duster Laurette 90 hp 2x4 1.5 ltr diesel engine. Large&big tyres are making comfortable driving. İt has everyting such as ABS,ASD,air con, multimedia, yöntem glass,Renault euro5 engine.Very high torque, eco mode for fuel save. I recomend every body. I have only one critisism which is the paint work. İt is s very tin layer of paint on the body of the car.
What they don't tell you is what tires were on the vehicles. I swapped out my "all terranes" for Nitto Ridge Grapplers on the LR and have no problem, and the truck is used off road much of the time.
Cele doua masini nu sunt comparabile, testul este irelevant. Detin Disco 3, Disco 2 si Dfender 110. Imi pare rau sa spun ca cel cu Disco 3 nu stie sa isi foloseasca masina.
@@cosmindiaconescu2960 In titlu spune ca presiunea este la fel, despre uzura nu spune nimeni nimic :) Eu pe Disco 3 am anvelope Nokian WR SUV 3 si iarna bag in ele 2 atm.
I am a Subaru fan and currently have two of them, but you cannot beat the clearance and the rear dif lock, that some of the Disco 3 have, even with a Subaru!
tyres ! tyres! tyres! I've seen normal cars(front two wheel drive) with snow (winter tyres ) OR four season tyres outperform 4x4 suvs with normal (non winter Tyres sometimes referred to as summer tyres although that description is inaccuarate ) on many occasions and it's hilarious to see them go by expensive 4x4s in little fiats or fords etc on icey snow covered inclined roads .
True.
I have an '87 Ford Scorpio in winters and a few years ago I got up a hill that a Disco had stopped getting up half way.
I had a Skoda Fabia with tyre socks on which went past a brand new Range Rover up an hill with fresh snow on it. The RR tyres were useless !
I’ve taken my Saab Cabriolet past 4x4 on hilly snowed up roads cos I make sure I have the right rubber for the season (winter tyres Oct-April)
all season tires are a myth. There is summer or winter tires. Some people (and firms) drive winter tires all year round and in most European counties it is not legal to have summer (all) season tires during winter
@@GodricThe the michelin cross climate and goodyear vector 4 seasons are all season tyres. Not as good as a winter tyre in winter, not as good as a summer tyre in summer but Good enough to work well in both conditions.
I used to own Range Rover Sport which almost identical to the Disco. I must say it is very capable off roader. I climbed steeper slopes with much more snow with just normal winter tyres. The thing is that most LR owners make a mistake by switching to "grass gravel and snow" mode. This mode is when driving with certain speed on a slippery road. In this case when it is deep snow they should do with "sand" mode. The result is greater performance in the deep snow. Even more that this car got low range gear
The Duster for money and value. A clear WINNER!
everything depends on the TYRES!!!
exactly, I can drive up with a yearis with the right winter tires. They think that 4*4 with diff lock will do the job with shit tires
@@Azureecosse you p
100% correct! They both have ”summer” tires on. Put Nokia Hakkapeliitta or Good Year with studs and you can climb on a tree. Regards from Finland.
Duster has good central lock system, even if it's electric block, it's most durable and best imitation system out there, with auto brakes helping.
May be they simulate an emergency situation with normal winter tyres....
I expected the cars wouldn't do much without sufficient grip from the tyres. But I haven't expected their results would be practically the same. And I'm getting more and more convinced to buy a cheap duster for my "driving my dog for a walk" needs.
Results are not the same, dacia make trail and lanf rover just follow it, land rover never drive first in pure snow, if it would do it dont move 5m from pth for sure...
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Pirellis are bad wintertires. Nokias are the best there is. With equal tires the Land Rover would outperform the Dacia easily.
The Duster was not designed to beat any reputable off roader but from the price it costs, it's a very decent car.
And if we consider the costs of maintenance I think it's a good option in that price range. If you can't afford a premium of course.
I like that Sututututtuu turbo sound coming out of the Discovery Turbocharger...😍
Me tooo!!😍🤩a pleasure for the soul 😁
Yeaaaah! Love it!
Youd have a lot more satisfaction from being at the Top with yur Tail in the air as you would be with a Range Rover Classic
That sound is not normal, somewhere lose power and bost. I have that on a octavia 2 2.0 tdi :))) and it was from turbo and an air pipe. In other words the car in the video it s not work at full power.
I guess that the sound comes from the turbo stalling (Stalling = Blowing intake air backwards through the turbo and air filter when the engine no longer is loaded)
OMG! the descovery will reach the top with this modification: 1.. DSC OFF!! Programm Snow and deflate the tyres to 1,5 bar.! Looks like the publisher don't knows, how a Discovery must be handeld in this conditions...
Duster 👍
This is a bit uneven match , put chains on both and both will go up , but for the difference in price the duster is giving the disc a run for its money , I have the 2 wheel drive 1. 3 TC duster , love it . C Taylor .
Very gooood little Duster. The Landrover performed also good, but all its modes seems rubbish and did not significant improved the performences.
Once again Duster proves that more money dosen't always mean better.
After seeing how well performed agains Audi and now Landrover, I seriously consider a Duster for offroad expeditions. I don't want to weast money on feancy cars if they are not any better.
Check out the new Suzuki Jimny if you want excellent off road performance for little money. On an expedition, your big concern will be maintenance and reliability. Yeah, these models of Land Rover are not about pure off road performance, they are a lot more about being a comfortable luxury car. It would do better with better tires, but as said, if you just want off road performance, you get that for a lot less money and with much simpler tech than in the D3.
@Razvan J If you need to build speed, you want any car with a 4WD that is not only based on traction control with brakes ( they are too slow reactive systems and will slow the vehicle down, brake based traction control is good on slow action ). It needs either true diff lock, manual or automatic on the driving axles, or a good limited slip differential. Jimny of course as standard doesn't probably have any axle lockers, but I would expect the aftermarket availability for parts to be excellent in the Jimny.
@Razvan J Torque vectoring diffs are very good, but they are technically complicate, and as a result they have their own type of problems (depending of which type of torque vectoring diff it exactly is). Manual lock is not brutal, it just requires driver to know how to operate it. With incorrect use and stupid driver everything can be destroyed. Automatic simple locks probably are quite brutal, there I agree with you that they probably aren't very good choice.
@Razvan J jimmy (also new one) is not useable above 100kmh. sometimes it is nice to drive somewhere without drama
I’m Land Rover through to my DNA but the Duster compared well whatever the setup. We have a 2018 Evoque in UK and a 2004 Jimny in Greece and we are thinking of changing to a Duster in Greece so this vid was helpful to see - thanks for sharing guys 👍
My pleasure. I'm really curious how a 2018 Evoque is doing in offroad. Too bad I don't know anyone near me that is willing to come and do a video 😁
Evoque = Hairdresser car...
Coenraad Lourens ha ha! You don’t even know the BS you are shovelling off other people - the vast majority of hairdressers couldn’t even afford one and you must drive a hairdryer as you know F£&k all about motor vehicles 🙃
Duster is almost as capable as the jimmy and three times more comfortable. Go for it
@@Gklasse you are more more stingy (SKROUTZ) than Abraham
Comparing a very old, under-powered, overly heavy Disco 3 with a more modern budget 4x4 does nobody any favours. The Disco is by far the cheaper and better option... with the correct tyres. A Disco 2 for $1000 or £1000 would be better than both.
the reliability of those for such a cheap price is up for question though
@@erikh1041 bullshit land Rovers no question are probably are the most expensive vehicles to maintain to keep on the road.
@@kerkiraz to maintain yes, but you can buy used ones cheap. that’s the reason they are cheap used, they’re a nightmare to live with
the dacia went first and cleaned the way for land rover
The guy probably selling Dusters , he will gonna beat any well-known off roader with his Duster. Watch few clips busted even jeep wrangler lol.
hearing these cars full throttle with no grip makes me cry... I love cars, love to push them, but that's just disrespecting your tool from my point of view :/
Dacia Duster Yeah... i have one from 1st series... It's a nice car^^
Nice video. I've owned a Range Rover Sport HSE V8 for 14 years now (still running great, no issues if properly serviced), and I know from experience that the LR3 would do much better if set up properly. Lots of people who own Land Rovers ( LR3s or Range Rovers) don't know that although they are 4WD full time, under normal setup the differentials are open! That means that the center and rear diff locks who are electronically controlled, will NOT engage under wheel spin even if traction control is OFF. To do that, you must select Terrain Response program suitable for the situation. You can verify that and see it on the navigation screen if you select '4x4 INFO" on the display. It will show the differential locks and indicate when they engage ( Green colour or Red). IF you select "Grass, Gravel, Snow' it will start in second gear though. To avoid that you can go MANUAL ( by shifting the gear selector to the left) or choose Mud or Sand. Also Traction Control should be OFF , otherwise the power will cut out if there is excessive wheel spin. Remember always to turn Hill Descent ON, even if you are going Uphill. That would prevent your brakes from locking up when you want to go backwards (in REVERSE gear) and hold the vehicle under controlled engine brake ( LOW gearing must be used as well). Now, i live in Canada and i know that the best winter tires are Nokian ( i use Hakkapelitta 9 with studs), although in your case you could use a good mudd tire, since ice is not much of an issue in your country. My Rover weighs over 3 tons (3172Kgs) but it would fly over that hill when driven properly. Im sure the Dacia is a nice little truck as well. Land Rovers are still very capable off road vehicles no matter what other people say!
That‘s NOT the way to drive up a snowy hill. The gear should be higher and the reffs lower.
Yeah, put 2nd gear in a steep snowy place and see what happen.
Solution for disco: SAND mode, DSC OFF and ALWAYS full gas.
DSC ON = loose grip
@@TheKiwibambam are you blind? every attempt they did is better with stupid dsc off. this will confirm you every driver, that have ever try to win steep uphill road covered with snow (me included), 2wd, 4wd whatever. dsc also cutting you off power etc and it the end makes everything worse.
Or dsc off, locked diffs (or at least hill descend on), low gear and idle gas and disco will slowly but surely reach the top.
Full gas in snow is a recipe for utter failure, slow , slow, slow wins every time
that turbo sound of the discovery :O
V-TECH
I was very impressed with the performance of the Duster so l would choose that as the narrow winner, it would have been even more interesting also having a Land Rover series 3 88" diesel and a Land Rover V8 90" as well, both being more old school offroaders with no electronics to get in the way!
LandRover can perform better then in this video. I drive this car for last 5 years and it is unstopable
With every offroad run, the driver will be more and more experienced and it will get the best from the car😁
You think this because you didn't drove the Duster yet :D
Breakdowns and faults, change the fucking record.
why do we need that bloody music
Would have been interesting to see the cars reverse up the hill, the front wheels would have benefited from much more grip. Also the Discovery's wheels are spinning at separate times which shows that diff lock was not engaged.
This test was designed for the Duster to look good. The Discovery has an off road mode (snow mode) that locks the centre and rear diff. Why are these not engaged? What are you testing by switching them off. You must test an off roader with all its functions.
@@AkhonaNgquba in snow mode no diff is locked
@@lowrange1486 yes sorry. I checked. Rock crawl locks all diffs. We don't get snow in South Africa so I never use that mode 😂
Give that drivers some course on driving please
fucken idiot
Absolutely right!!!!!
Looks like you gave a poor run-up and sounds like you kept taking your foot off the accelerator on the LR3. Owned one for some time now, they are remarkable off road vehicles.
Duster unbelievable car at a great value price.
Bad choice of tyres and obviously inexperience drives, especially the one in the Discovery.
With my Cooper Discoverer STT Max, I could climb this on one go.
I run the STT Max on my LR3 as well. They make it nearly unstoppable.
Scorpions are definitely wrong for this activity. I think they did it on purpose to undermine the old disco
@@tomasz8935 I believe you are right, they wanted to show the stupid Dacia as equal!
Exactly, fit snow tyres and my BMW would climb that with ease. Pointless video
I've been through 18 inches of snow with no problem in my D3 with scorpions, I've got Wranglers on now
Why you put Disco on the second gear.Let automatic gearbox decide.You get better speed.And DSC off if you want to go in snow
Automatic Gearbox in ANY LandRover is for Footballers Wives, Women on the School Run, or Men who still wear Pampers.
@@philyew3617 Bullshit, I've driven auto and manual. The two autos were D1 V8 and a D3 TDV6, autos are much better off road because you don't loose momentum.
Hold my beer as he goes by them both in the grand vitara
No no no.
Vitara is a road car. Can't beat this 2 on offroad. You wanna bring Suzuki to race, take Jimny. Panda 4x4 would be best 8n here
use the SAND mode on this kind of snow (my experience with RRS)
Молодцы ребята, и машины зачетные и сильные, спасибо большое за видео
First issue, the nokian tyres on the Duster are better than pirelli scorpion on Lrd3 in big snow conditions. Anyway, in big snow, tyre profile and pressure make the difference. I am sure that with better tyres both cars can climbe that slope. I got a Lrd3, 2,7 liter factory version( no tunnings for offroad) equiped with General Grabber 2 tyres on the original rims.. On low tyre pressure (1,4- 1,6 ) , no DSC mode, sand mode selected, and with full gas on 2nd gear, low range mode, my LRD3 will climb that slope with no problem. I always have an electric air pump in my Lrd3 for this kind of issues. Any Lrd3 driver will confirm that this car on slippery roads with high tyre pressure will go anywhere else then the road, even on low speed, i don't want to talk about sudden brakes.
The Duster is like a Romanian Subaru without a proper AWD system.
subaru is much better imho
MrGoMario The lock 4WD button on a Duster is equivalent to a central locker on like a Landcruiser? I don’t think so.
MrGoMario I know. In a real 4x4 you can go over 100 km/h in 4WD hi.
MrGoMario Driving an overlander like a loaded LC in 4WD Hi is recommended on dirt and gravel roads at highway speeds. Much safer.
MrGoMario I’m referring to the fact that traditional 4x4s can be driven in 4WD Hi without the center diff locked at any speed whereas the Duster in Auto mode is really only 2WD unless the wheels slip and then for a moment the car goes into 4WD to regain traction. Of course you don’t drive a Land Rover or Toyota LC with a locked center diff at hi speeds.
I Like the duster
It was a very successful test drive. Really great duster performance
The duster is a great car I've got one as a run about its never let me down
Glad to hear that. You made a good choice!!
How old were the kids driving these vehicles absolutely no clue
I love land rover discovery
The Difference is the tyres. Pirreli Scorpion are a hard road tyre with a 'posing name'. Nokian build tyres that work. , and where I live are a third of the price. Unfortunatley Land Rover don't trust you to drive thier vehicles any more, the Nerd in the Office tells the computer and you can do nothing about it. An old lada Niva with the right tyres would have romped up that.
Duster 👍❤️
Sorry, every Land rover driver i hope knows in a situation like this you have to lower the tyre pressure
Yep that's what we do in ours
Duster will be my next car👍
Wrong tyres on the Discovery
Lucky they got through that without the Landy breaking
Breaking how?
@@DusterCoolTravels because they are renowned for being unreliable
You clearly do not want that Discovery to beat Duster.
In show hill like this deciding factor is width of the tire and then type of the tire. 30-year old Disco 1 with proper 205/80 tires would pull that Duster to the top of that hill no problem.
Are you sure about that??? Don’t think you know what you are talking about mate!
@@catchawakeup6411 Yeah I do. Almost every winter pulling some stranded SUV. Unless tires are so big they can float on top of snow width won't help you ...and stop that passive-aggressive shit, will you
very similiar results from not very similiar priced suv's , if I had forked out for a landrover and needed it for off road work and not posing in then I'd be rightly pissed off😋
Much respect for Duster.
Simple tip: get some snowchains on.
You said on RAW SNOW but the Disco was driving in the tracks of the Duster every time.
That is NOT Raw Snow.
Useless comparison !!
you're right, Duster would've made it last time if they tried one more time. plus Discovery is heavier and has more grip
NICE DUSTER !
that bov from that disco though 😍
This isn't really a test of vehicles. It depends on the tyres. Did both have the same tyres? Looks like you had fun though. On a recent trip through Morocco with five Land Rovers you could see different tyres preformed differently on different surfaces. My car with four season tyres performs better on snow than my Defender with M&S tyres. My friend's Defender with M&S tyres slid into the ditch in the snow. The postman in his Renault Kangoo with winter tyres pulled him out. My friend had difficulty living that one down.
La Duster con el motor 1.6?
!Que tal con el 1.3 turbo!
no, es la 1.5 motor
hello, i have lr3, the car makes noise on the ramp, just like when you can't go uphill yet, what sound is it?
Beautiful place 😍😍,snow and mountain,that's a peace of mind!!!! please continue to make video 📹!!
Thank you very much!! 😁it's very hard with the coronavirus situation 😒
Duster all time economic end performance 👍
Very true!!😁
i have duster 1.5 4wd but seriously i cant compare with discovery wtf that is a legend AND has double like wight
Why not?😃
@@DusterCoolTravels exactly way not ? but no, is like you want to challenge a Logan with an Passat obviously you can see an opportunity to challenge any car is just waist of time but for fun works
Cataoin, What are stuff you like about duster and what are things you hate about it ?
Asking, cuz i want to buy it as well
@@ANIMshit the inside is plastic cheap plastic everywhere no confort the only good thing is a engine 1.5 diesel 4wd in the rest is just a car for mud and farming the 1.5 diesel on the highway is sluggish at 110 km/h you are at 3k rpm but is a little shrek in the concrete jungle:)))
@@BtC01n What year duster you got ? and with version ?
Verdstene 15 x 165 Mud +Snow on front of my SAAB 96, am sure I'm there with you both!
conclusion: why pay x3 the price of the dacia for the same result?
Something like that 😁
maybe because you'll have x3 times more chances to survive after crash 👍
@@DusterCoolTravels Spoiler alert
Same result for a different amount of time
Listen to that turbo of the discovery tho, and that awful sound of the Dacia
Дастер самий лучий по проходімості тільки гелік йому конкурент
Duster is better and cheaper.
How many Dusters can I buy for the Discovery money?
You can buy 2 disco3 for the cost of a new duster
And your life in Duster?
Considering the difference in price between both cars, i'd say the Duster is clearly the winner.
But then again, it's a stupid test. I'd be more impressed by a real-life test on an off the road track, with different kinds of challenges, rather than just going straight up a snowy hill.
Just my opinion though. And to be honest, I'm not completely unbiased too, as I own a Duster. Much to my satisfaction ;-)
The main difference is that the Duster will keep trying to get you up hills while the Discovery is waiting for the breakdown truck.
How were tyre pressures? Lower pressure and maybe you go up like flying...
How about using the off-road tires for off-roading...?
Дастер чуть выигрывает, но если бы стояла задняя блокка, то без проблем въехал в гору. Дискавери тяжелый для такого бездорожья. Но Диско намного комфортней во всём и тише по трассе и максимальная скорость выше!!! Был дастер с двумя блокировками и лифтом подвески. Теперь Диско 4, если бы не шум дизеля на ХХ, то был бы полностью идеальный автомобиль!
Se vede si se aude clar ca la discovery nu ii dai tare cum ar trebui si ca pe duster il incingi. Nu mi se pare relevant testul, trebuie conduse de acelasi sofer. Nu detin discovery sau alt model de genu deci nu tin cu respectivul
Într-adevăr, șoferul de pe land rover nu a forțat mașina că cel de pe duster. În primul rând pentru că în primele încercări de urcare a avut DSC activitat și mașina tăia din accelerație și în al doilea rând, land roverul este mult mai greu decât dusterul și dă impresia că nu este forțat când de fapt, mașina nu apucă să prindă viteză la fel ca dusterul tocmai din cauza greutății proprii și a denivelărilor din teren.
la duster are garantie la motor, la land rover - nu are. Daca sar pistoanele la duster, il duce la reprezentanta ca e proasta masina, la land rover ce sa mai fortezi motorul cand deja gafaie - scria cineva mai sus in comentarii ca acel sunet inseamna o defectiune a ansamblului motor. Si.....la orice masina de import piesele si reparatiile te usca de bani. Asa ca.... da, consider si eu irelevant testul. Au zapacit masinile degeaba (mai ales ca elementul esential din ecuatie lipseste - anvelopele allterain; nu poti cere unei masini sa urce un deal cu zapada nemiscata pe el, avand anvelope de strada), aratand un amatorism de mare clasa.
Insa, adevarul este ca duster este o masina corecta din toate punctele de vedere: sasiu, motor (cred ca e 1,5 dci masina in test) iconic (atat de bun incat echipeaza si unele modele mercedes), echipare, pret. Bravo Dacia pentru ca ofera o alternativa cat-de-cat calitativa celor care doresc 4x4. Nu am vreo legatura cu dacia, nu le fac reclama. Masina personala este o Mazda 6 2.0 cd/2007 de care sunt foarte mandru.
Please next time try with a subaru Forester XT
discovery 3 turbo sound its iconic
I can't believe Land Rover has dropped down to the level of Dacia to compete. It used to match up with Land Cruiser.
yea no, sorry to break it to ya bud and spoil your fun, but a few things wrong with this vid here. the tires being the number one problem, and you can see it in the video when the wheels spin and the amount of snow the tires kick up. also... weight. that discovery weighs nearly 3 tones and when its being driven by a driver who doesn’t know how to properly offroad, you get the results you get demonstrated by this video. had the driver turned that DSC off from the start and had better throttle control, the disco would’ve still struggled because of the tires, but it would’ve made it up a lot sooner. it would’ve also helped if this was the Jag 4.4 V8 Discovery because the difference in power to weight ratio in the Dacia and Land Rover are immense, both have relatively the same power but one is a tank and the other a wheelbarrow
i was really excited for the Duster but i heart from owners a few complaints like the road stability isn't so good because of soft suspenion, the build quality is cheap and a lot of little but annoying stuff tend to break so can you give me your opinion on that? Like if i wanna buy this to drive it mostly on the road and ocasionaly (rarely) the need to go on some bad surface would you recomend?
Well I am onto my second 4x4 diesel duster and again I’m at 180k miles and no issues at all and I drive it hard
@@scottwilson1510 And past how much km do you consider problems starts to appear? Thank you for replying btw!
@@Skyriiing I’ve had no problems at all nothing as I said I’ve done 180thousand miles no issues at all I drive it hard off road and on it’s unstoppable
cool to see the comparison, espically to see that even though thr disco is almost a tonne heavier the electronics are able to minimise the disadvantages
Foarte reusite testele, dar ar fi mult mai interesante daca ar conduce in teste un sofer care a mai condus pe zapada. La noi in Harghita daca conduci in acest mod o masina iarna ... sfarsesti prin a rade toti de tine :-)
Dacia Duster does not need to prove anything else, in this video just opening the snow trail for the Land Rover "shame". He has faced great off-road stars like Suzuki Jimny, Rav 4, X-Trail, Shogun, Tiguan, Suzuki Vitara, Audi Q5, Audi Avant, Q7, Nissan Qashqai. Dacia Duster was designed to be an urban vehicle with "LIGHT" off road characteristics. But the desperation of brands that cost three times the model, lead to these absurd comparisons, but the model ends up surprising and doing very well. Good, cheap, robust vehicle that has no chronic problems like the VW and Audi line.
What a test .
All respect dacia
Duster isn't a bad car but I wouldn't compare it with any rover....
that is true,quite emberiség for the higher end company's
It's ok, he compared the cars so you don't have to.
Pretty amazing performance, considering the garbage tyres you're using. Like hey let's go ice skating with crocs.
i had a old discovery old version tdi2700 but i'm love with that little lady. will be my next car
You mean the Duster? 😄
@@DusterCoolTravels of course..she is a little lady compared to the granny Discovery
Lada Niva.. talk to them
Russ or romanian?
They can't Niva is out of reach, in the forest
Dacia best suv in the Word:)) you re very funny
Duster de the best car very good
Why did you not try Sand mode in the Discovery? Given you stated the snow was crunchy on top but like sand underneath? This mode keeps the gears lower and makes a lot of difference. It’s the mode I would use in that type of snow.
Good info otherwise and good demo. Thanks :)
In my opinion the disco is better as you can get more in it and it has better ground clearance. Also just because its a Land Rover :)
Wow that turbo land rover.
Exceptional, right ?😍
Why spend so much more money and gazole for having the same result ? Finally, the Duster seems fabulous, respect.
Seems the only practical difference is about €10 000
And the quality of workmanship. Convenient for longer trips. Quality of materials for passengers. It's still a Romanian with an older Nissan chassis.
Я за дастер он уже ниву доедает, осталось всего пару лет и он станет полноценным внедерожником.
I owned a D3 - the same as in the video. The car was a piece of sh... but the 4wd system wasnt that bad. However I also have experience with pirelli and nokian tires - pirelli scorpion are the worst winter tires I ever had. Toyo, Nokian are OK and michelin are the best. The problem here: heavy car, weak tires and you should have tried the "sand"-program in these conditions. Besides the Dacia doesnt have a 4wd "lock" - what it does in "lock" mode is, that the 4wd clutch is locking more agressively (but not all the time=100%) then in standard mode but it is not really locked permanently and the more you move the steering wheel the faster the lock opens in order to prevent damage to the drive train.
Beautiful cars and landscape!
Thank you very much. 😁
Flooring isnt going to make difference. The way engines were coaxed indicate need for better tyres. Traction is lost here, not engine power. More power would just result into more wheel spin.
Duster is excellent value. Price X performance value great. I have 1997 duster Laurette 90 hp 2x4 1.5 ltr diesel engine. Large&big tyres are making comfortable driving. İt has everyting such as ABS,ASD,air con, multimedia, yöntem glass,Renault euro5 engine.Very high torque, eco mode for fuel save.
I recomend every body. I have only one critisism which is the paint work. İt is s very tin layer of paint on the body of the car.
What they don't tell you is what tires were on the vehicles. I swapped out my "all terranes" for Nitto Ridge Grapplers on the LR and have no problem, and the truck is used off road much of the time.
Nice looking cars those dusters now i reckon
Conclusiones...gastandote mucho menos llegás igualmente al mismo sitio.
Cele doua masini nu sunt comparabile, testul este irelevant. Detin Disco 3, Disco 2 si Dfender 110. Imi pare rau sa spun ca cel cu Disco 3 nu stie sa isi foloseasca masina.
Defender, respectele mele :)
E posibil sa ne păcălească și video ...dar și eu înclin sa cred
Ca se putea scoate mai mult de la disco...nici anvelopele nu știm presiuni și uzuri
@@cosmindiaconescu2960 In titlu spune ca presiunea este la fel, despre uzura nu spune nimeni nimic :) Eu pe Disco 3 am anvelope Nokian WR SUV 3 si iarna bag in ele 2 atm.
The Predator Legend folosesc general grabber pe Touareg ...cel putin din ce îmi dau seama in filmuleț nu cred ca as fi avut probleme la urcare ....
Would have liked to see the addition of the Subaru Forester
That's me too. A few months ago, I bought my first Subaru Outback. I'm excited. Before that I had a Volvo V60 and it can't be compared.
Nothing comparable to the Subaru's AWD, I would like to watch a Forester with good winter tyres beside those two.
I am a Subaru fan and currently have two of them, but you cannot beat the clearance and the rear dif lock, that some of the Disco 3 have, even with a Subaru!
@@georgikovachev9367 yes, quite a big difference! The Subaru is an AWD, it's not really meant to be pitched against a 4WD Disco...