I watched Postcards from the Edgе full movie here twitter.com/c85ee93613d9e46b3/status/822800280811016193 Pоstcards from the edge 1990 scene with Shirleey MaccLaine and Mеryl Streеp
Shirley Maclaine actually met Joan Crawford back in 1964 when Maclaine was filming John Goldfarb, Please Come Home! (1965) on the Fox lot. Crawford happened to visit the film's set and she and Maclaine (in costume) posed together for a photo. Both of their daughters wrote books about them.
One of my favorite movies it was so funny And the acting was great man. Debbie and Carrie RIP. And how about when she said what if you had Joan, or Lana turner as a mother
Саша Пивоваров hello, you saw the movie, and did you like it? i saw in 1990 at the premiere, and for me it's one of the greatest performances of both, meryl and shirley
tl/dr If there's a glass of wine in her hand, just about everything Doris says and does is an example of what not to say or do. You do realize it's one of the most ironic lines in the entire film, because her drinking is evidence that Doris herself hasn't actually gotten over most of the crap in her own past, including her childhood and the behavior of her own mother, and because she's saying that to avoid taking any responsibility for the things she put her daughter through due to her own substance abuse and lack of adequate mental health care? How can Doris rationally tell Suzanne to get over things she won't even acknowledge the existence or impact of? This entire movie is about how much harder it is to grow up when the adults around you are barely more than adolescents themselves - and how at different times recovery can involve both letting your parents parent you and parenting your parents. It's about dealing with what happened, in part by openly discussing it, and the impact it's had on your adult life, And given it was based on Carrie Fisher's book, and she was still writing and talking about the things that happened in her adolescence decades after Postcards was published or produced, I think it's safe to say that "just get over it, already" was never a central theme in this story or this scene.
Move forward but hold transgressors accountable and get them out of your life. True sign of a sociopath: let go of the past and forget the horrible things I did so I can keep doing it.
"How'd you like to have Joan Crawford as a friend? Or ... LANA TURNER?" This is what I have asked people for years and they all answered, "Oh god yes! They'd be more fun than you!"
Lana Turner was reportedly very offended to have been compared with Joan Crawford as a mother. And yet, Shirley MacLaine’s own daughter eventually wrote a book that made “Mommie Dearest” read like a love letter.
I can't figure out why anyone is assuming that she was listing off abusive mothers, rather than just mothers whose fame and home life crashed together in ways that were very traumatic and ultimately became quite public, for both the mothers and their children. Having to defend your mother from her boyfriend, with deadly force, at the age of 14, certainly paints Christina and Cheryl as having grown up in similarly destructive families, regardless of how much the mothers loved their daughters or vice versa. Especially when you factor in the strange presence their mother's fame played in their lives and experiences. Doris is presenting two cases where having had a very talented and famous mother were inarguably (to her mind) way worse than having been her daughter, not realizing that Suzanne's might just have a few stories in kind to swap with those women - because there are undeniable patterns to having addiction within incredibly famous families.
How long was Suzanne gone on her date with Jack? She left for her date in the morning, and it's clearly daylight from the window behind Doris. Was she gone a full 24 hours and just getting home the next morning or was she just out for most of the day and coming home later in the afternoon? I always found that part confusing (and yes I'm probably overthinking LOL).
comparing Lana to joan? i’m not saying i agree or disagree with christina’s allegations but it’s not fair to compare that to Lana when cheryl loved her mother dearly
Meryl was 41 and Shirley was 56 when the film was released. If you want to get technical, Shirley is certainly old enough to be Meryl's mother, albeit having been a very young one. But it's hardly a stretch that believe that Meryl is playing a character a few years younger, meaning Shirley's character became a mother in her late teens or early 20s.
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I love this scene. Everything about it. "What if you'd been out taking drugs or something?", said with a super slurred voice.
Thank you for this blast from the past
"You came from Somewhere and your trying to make Nothing out of Yours". Jesus those were strong words anybody can relate too. I know I did. :-)
I watched Postcards from the Edgе full movie here twitter.com/c85ee93613d9e46b3/status/822800280811016193 Pоstcards from the edge 1990 scene with Shirleey MaccLaine and Mеryl Streеp
"Do you mind if I drop acid?"
Smartass, but a bit brilliant!
Shirley Maclaine actually met Joan Crawford back in 1964 when Maclaine was filming John Goldfarb, Please Come Home! (1965) on the Fox lot. Crawford happened to visit the film's set and she and Maclaine (in costume) posed together for a photo. Both of their daughters wrote books about them.
One of my favorite movies it was so funny And the acting was great man. Debbie and Carrie RIP. And how about when she said what if you had Joan, or Lana turner as a mother
"These are the options?" I still use that line.
just to honor them, hollywood might made a second premiere of this spectacular film, rest in peace debbie and carrie
Саша Пивоваров hello, you saw the movie, and did you like it? i saw in 1990 at the premiere, and for me it's one of the greatest performances of both, meryl and shirley
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“You should get over what happened to you at your adolescence, and move on”. Thank you Shirley/Debbie
A great quote to live by for all of us. Keep moving forward.
tl/dr If there's a glass of wine in her hand, just about everything Doris says and does is an example of what not to say or do.
You do realize it's one of the most ironic lines in the entire film, because her drinking is evidence that Doris herself hasn't actually gotten over most of the crap in her own past, including her childhood and the behavior of her own mother, and because she's saying that to avoid taking any responsibility for the things she put her daughter through due to her own substance abuse and lack of adequate mental health care? How can Doris rationally tell Suzanne to get over things she won't even acknowledge the existence or impact of?
This entire movie is about how much harder it is to grow up when the adults around you are barely more than adolescents themselves - and how at different times recovery can involve both letting your parents parent you and parenting your parents. It's about dealing with what happened, in part by openly discussing it, and the impact it's had on your adult life,
And given it was based on Carrie Fisher's book, and she was still writing and talking about the things that happened in her adolescence decades after Postcards was published or produced, I think it's safe to say that "just get over it, already" was never a central theme in this story or this scene.
That line was a home run. I'll be adopting that as a new truth.
Move forward but hold transgressors accountable and get them out of your life.
True sign of a sociopath: let go of the past and forget the horrible things I did so I can keep doing it.
@@articulatedkat I swear it's like looking at my mom and her mom.
The Joan Crawford or Lana Turner scene ran through my head the whole 2016 US election...
This is my mother...plus fame and fortune.
"How'd you like to have Joan Crawford as a friend? Or ... LANA TURNER?"
This is what I have asked people for years and they all answered, "Oh god yes! They'd be more fun than you!"
My mom and I. :(
Lana Turner was reportedly very offended to have been compared with Joan Crawford as a mother. And yet, Shirley MacLaine’s own daughter eventually wrote a book that made “Mommie Dearest” read like a love letter.
I can't figure out why anyone is assuming that she was listing off abusive mothers, rather than just mothers whose fame and home life crashed together in ways that were very traumatic and ultimately became quite public, for both the mothers and their children. Having to defend your mother from her boyfriend, with deadly force, at the age of 14, certainly paints Christina and Cheryl as having grown up in similarly destructive families, regardless of how much the mothers loved their daughters or vice versa. Especially when you factor in the strange presence their mother's fame played in their lives and experiences.
Doris is presenting two cases where having had a very talented and famous mother were inarguably (to her mind) way worse than having been her daughter, not realizing that Suzanne's might just have a few stories in kind to swap with those women - because there are undeniable patterns to having addiction within incredibly famous families.
I met Cheryl Crane twice in the 80s. Stunning woman. I had to bite my tongue to keep from asking a few questions.
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How long was Suzanne gone on her date with Jack? She left for her date in the morning, and it's clearly daylight from the window behind Doris. Was she gone a full 24 hours and just getting home the next morning or was she just out for most of the day and coming home later in the afternoon? I always found that part confusing (and yes I'm probably overthinking LOL).
@misteron20 I've used that line on my mother. Somehow, they never get it when it's turned around on them...
She plays a great drunk !
comparing Lana to joan? i’m not saying i agree or disagree with christina’s allegations but it’s not fair to compare that to Lana when cheryl loved her mother dearly
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How would ever believe that Meryl could play a thirtish woman and Mclaine playing her mother?
Meryl was 41 and Shirley was 56 when the film was released. If you want to get technical, Shirley is certainly old enough to be Meryl's mother, albeit having been a very young one. But it's hardly a stretch that believe that Meryl is playing a character a few years younger, meaning Shirley's character became a mother in her late teens or early 20s.
Hollywood puts Meryl Streep on everything...its a bit ridiculous 🙄
@@articulatedkat Shirley was probably playing a woman a bit older than she was.