We look at the Suzuki Dr650, it's history and I give a general overview
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- Опубликовано: 30 июн 2024
- Dino’s Tinker Shed, S1-Ep1 DR650 History and Opinion.
We talk about the Suzuki DR650, the DR 650 history the DR650 pros and cons as a dual sport motorcycle and adventure bike. We will discuss how the bike fits in the dual sport market and if the DR650 is any good for the average rider. DR650 suspension, DR650 wheels, Dr650 Engine and Dr650 Seat are all discussed. I will show you my personal DR650 and a bit about how I ride it.
We will talk about how the Dr650 compares to the KLR650 and the XR650 and which one may be right for you and why I chose the DR650 as my motorcycle. We also talk about on and off road manors of the motorcycle.
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Probably one of the most underrated bikes out there. I actually like the stock suspensions. Roads around here are in very bad condition, and with my 190lbs, it soaks up the bumps really well. It's a lot more fun going fast on a slow bike and slow on a fast bike :) I just recently bought my 2018, I went to see a few and man o man are some DRs in bad shape! Some have been dropped on every side, no maintenance log, owners have never heard about valve check, etc...but when you find a nice one, you jump on it!
Excellent analysis. I love my DR650 2007. I have been the first and only owner. My love is not like a religious of fanatic idolatry, but a rational appreciation of its simplicity and versatility. It takes me wherever I need or want to go, and the way I like!
The bonus of the DR being a simple bare bones bike is it makes it a blank canvas to build the bike you want, like the old Brit bikes from back in the day, multi purpose.
I bought my first DR back in 1998 to use as a courier bike after owning a KLR 650 and KLX 650, I sadly sold the DR after 2 years and 115,000 Klm’s of trouble free riding, unlike the Kawasaki’s, nothing but issues.
Then in 2005 returned to courier work and bought another DR, 474,000 Klm’s and 9 years of a few problems, but not super expensive issues, then 2014 DR number 3, 7 years and 296,000 Klm’s with no issues, am I happy ? Hell yes.
I wanted a bike that would start every morning, last a day in stop start traffic, sit on highway speeds, have low overheads, then on the weekend take me to the backroads, mission complete.
And by the way 2021 is the last year of the DR here in Australia due to no ABS, the fun police spoil another fun pastime.
I look at it this way, a DR 650 will go everywhere a 3 times more expensive BMW GSA 1250 will go, apart from a dealership to be serviced, but the GSA 1250 will not go where the DR can go, with similar skilled riders, makes the DR 650 the best bike on the market . 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
what a great comment from a person who has obviously used the DR to its maximum potential. It is nice to know the bike can run for so long with little major issues. Thank you for taking the time to share your experience with the bike and watching the video.
Dino
Great video and very informative. I usually buy well - used vehicles but I'm buying a new DR650. Old DR's with mileage and wear are selling for 60% to 70% of the cost of a new one. Even the one in this video had lots of mileage and wear but was only 50% off new cost. Considering the risk of buying used, the wear, the need for repairs, a safety inspection in Ontario etc, its better value, in the long run to buy a new DR. Their low price new and strong resale value makes this a logical decision
This is a valid point for sure, I'm actually working on a video on this topic right now as my DR is just turning 50,000km and wanted to talk about the value of used. I will bring up your point if that's alright.
Dino
One reason why the bike is unchanged is emission regulations. As long as Suzuki keeps the bike in same specs they are allowed to keep on. There are rumours that 2023 will be the last year sold in Australia.
Just picked up a 1998 dr 650! Planning on turning it into an adventure bike and take it across the pan American highway!
Fort Collins Colorado Suzuki dealer is asking $9000 for a new DR650. Nothing like some greedy sales team taking advantage of the consumer! Your videos are great Dino and a great tool for any prospective and existing DR owner. Thank you! Sorry for the rant but I remember when the DR used to be a decent price. Now they are KTM price apparently where I live.
Wow, 9000 for a DR650? that's nuts! Things are really getting out of hand for sure. Thanks for the information
DIno
Depends.
I thought this was a great video Dino. Covered the DR650 in good depth, along with some of it's family in the DR line. It was also just a nicely put together piece on the subject of dual sport bikes and technology/features vs simplicity/ease of maintenance. You had a good focus on speaking to those who are new to the information you present, but also not becoming so tedious that you turn away those who already know the material. I enjoyed it, and I hope you keep producing more videos. I also think Carl's a hoot and look forward to more of him.
Thank you for the great feed back Ben, it lets me know that my approach is on target. please keep the comments coming, they really help.
Dino
Thanks Dino. Really enjoyed your video. I found an almost new (1900km) 2019 DR 650 at a dealer in Alberta. After riding big heavy v twin Harleys for many years, I decided to get a bike that can get off the main roads and see the back country in the foothills of the Rockies. I also am getting a bit older and 900 pound bikes are not as much fun to maneuver. Cheers. Happy to subscribe.
thank you for the comment and I'm glad you enjoyed the video. And thank you for the subscription.
Dino
This is great Dino! Suzuki needs to see this. I have definitely learned something today.
Thank you Karren, glad you like it.
Great video, lots of good info. Shared with a buddy that I'm hoping will one day buy a DR and rediscover is motorcycling passion.
Well done! Very informative, nice pace, great general overview of both the bike AND sport
Thank you for the feed back
Great Video! I’m looking forward to the series :)
Thanks!
Mate I love the DR650. I am an Aussie and I am moving to Texas later this year. Buying my 3rd DR650 will be one of the first things I do 👍
They really are a great bike for sure, I hope those Texans are ready for an Aussie on a DR, you guys really know how to ride!
Good luck and thanks for the comment.
Dino
I bought the 2021 dr 650 as my first bike and I absolutely love it. I used to ride mountain bikes for 4 plus hours and have conditioned myself to pretty harsh seats. But all around the suspension is great and the ride is comfortable. Great bike to learn on.
Thanks for sharing!
Dino
Mine in 1991. Later I got a klr650 ~2006, it was good but didnt have quite the comfort or sound of the suzuki which I had sold in 1995.
Nicely done! A very good, balanced look at the DR.
You covered its strengths and weaknesses well, and described the excellent aftermarket support for the bike.
Thank you very much, Its hard to find the right amount of information without being to boring. the comments help a lot.
Dino
Thanks Dino , even though I don’t have a dr anymore I still find all your videos informative and great to watch
Cheers Paul
Thanks, I'm glad you still find the content interesting. I do try to mix it up a bit so it's not all Dr stuff.
Dino
Outstanding video, really thorough! I’ve been thinking about getting one of these, and your video really helped clarify the strengths and limitations of this machine. Well done!
Glad you enjoyed the video and thank you for the comment. If you do decide to buy a DR you will have a lot of fun.
Dino
What a great video! Thanks for sharing your knowledge with us all!
Thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed it.
Dino
Greetings Dino,
What a fantastic detailed video production 🇺🇸🍾🎉🇺🇸. Keep producing more videos.
Thank you, will do
Dino
Yes
Now own one
Owned many enduros between 1970 on.
Why I purchased this bike.
Carburetor
Simple pickup ignition
Oil cooling
Air cooled*
History of reliability.
Cornucopia of upgrades
I love riding this bike. It is stock sans the carb jetting which was insanely lean.
It is so light in terms of handling and picking it up on a trail.
I adventure biked it as far as bags and a back rack.
Being that Big Single cylinder Thumpers are a joy for me to ride.
I couldn’t of chosen a better bike.
😊
The first view, first subscribe, first like, first comment. I can’t wait to what’s next to come. Great content and very knowledgeable. Keep it up!
Thank you, I hope I can deliver LOL
Great video! I feel like I know so much about this bike now 🏍️
Thanks for the awesome video !!! Very polished like a classic TV show. I have a 1991 dr350s although I like watching dr650 content as there is a lot more.
Thank you Matt, I'm glad you like the content. I would love to get my hands on a dr350 to review and produce content for. Perhaps I can find one at some point.
Thank you for taking the time to comment.
Dino
G'day Dino, bloody ripper mate... I reckon you explained that perfectly! Loved the video format too 👍
Cheers... Mark
Thanks Mark, high praise coming from you for sure. Love your channel and certainly influenced my content.
Thanks for taking the time to comment.
Dino
Great video, thank you for making this.
Absolutely brilliant vid. Well done, mate!
Wow, thank you for the comment, I'm glad you found it entertaining.
Dino
Excellent video. Thanks Dino. I am looking at possibly buying one of these.
Thank you for the comment, the DR is by no means perfect but it is a great bike that many love for its flaws, myself included.
Outstanding video! I’ve been on a TW200 for my first 3-4 years of riding. I have come to the conclusion that the DR650 will be my next bike, for the exact reasons you mention in this video. I am very excited to introduce the Bush Pig to my Mountain Goat! Cheers!
The TW200 looks like a really fun ride for sure, I'm glad you enjoyed my look at the DR650 and I'm sure you will be happy with the bike. Sounds like your going to have a whole dual sport farm on your hands.
Dino
Was looking for a dual sport in 2007 and had a hard choice between the DR and KLR. Ended up getting the KLR (perceived better aftermarket here in the US, not sure if I was right). Still have it and it has been a good bike, but have always regretted not getting the DR. Similar bikes from the 80's but the DR's lighter weight and air cooling put the DR ahead in my opinion. I'd get one today if I were looking for a new bike. Current KLR is 100 pounds heavier. Imagine strapping two 50 pound bags of sand onto your loaded DR650 and hitting the trails! Quick, buy a DR while you can!
The KLR is a great bike in its own right and I do think you are right about the aftermarket for them. I do agree though making the bike heaver really defeats the idea of a middle weight adventure bike and makes even less sense if you view it as a dual sport ride.
Thank you for your comment
Dino
This is one of the best videos I’ve seen on the DR650. I’ve been pretty split between the DRZ400 and the DR650. I’m still trying to figure out how much I’ll actually hit technical trails that this bike would struggle on.
It's a tough call between the two bikes for sure. The 650 fits my riding style well and I like the extra displacement but I don't think one is really better than the other just a slightly different focus. As you say, the 650 is a bit more street bias I think.
Good luck, that's a tough choice.
Dino
Maybe we can make the choice a bit easier in that with the over populated roads freeways and main throughways a dr400 might push one towards more dirt applications with lesser travelled back roads...just my thought.
this bike wont struggle on any terrain. you may, but it wont.
I am in the waiting for mine to come into the dealership. I love your videos, but more than that your coffee cup! That thing is great! Haha thank you for such high quality info. Regards, Northern MN
Oh man a new DR!!! I am excited for you. Your in for lots of fun for sure. Thank you for the feedback and I'll try to get the Coffey cup in more videos for you.
Dino
Great vid! I already have a DR650 and my mindset is pretty much exactly as you described who would want to own this bike. Love the bike and am having fun making it my own, bit by bit. Parts coming in the mail from procycle as I type this. I didn’t need to watch this for any reason other than it was entertaining and enjoyable 👍
Very glad you enjoyed the video and took the time to comment. Good luck with your DR build, it is a fun bike to mod.
Dino
I own a XR650L and I love modifying mine. Recently put a oil cooler on mine and that made mine a lot more long range capable
The XR is an awesome bike for sure in its stock form. As you say a few mods and it becomes a long distance adventure mule.
Thanks for commenting.
Dino
@@DinosTinkerShed Dino ive had many Hondas stiil do ..i had XR-R XLs but then got a DR. both great bikes but my DR wins my vote now lol
You are 100% correct I have a DR and love it. I live in Australia.
Thank you for the comment.
Dino
One of The Best videos about old girl. Truly to the point. Thank you
Thank you for the feedback, I'm glad you found it interesting.
Dino
excellent video mate
Man you are a god. Very good review. Thanks!
Thank you for the kind words.
Dino
Enjoyed the video, you went over every point, that was great. I've had a DR650 for 17 years and it's still holding up great. The stock seat is fine for me, never really thought about it being too hard or narrow. Also I've never upgraded the suspension. I ride on very rough, rocky, rutted, and steep trails in Colorado, and the suspension works great for me. It's comfortable on that rough terrain. I wouldn't change it for something more stiff, that wouldn't make any sense at all unless you're racing enduro or something. And then, you would need a different bike anyway. However, one thing the bike does need for off-roading is better tires.
Thank you for the feed back, I agree with your comments, I do think that there are better seats out there but I believe also that there is a lot of internet pressure saying how bad it is, the same goes for the suspension, I think most people would find it to be just fine other than perhaps a heavier rear spring if you are , like me a bit bigger. Of course this depends on how you ride, I mostly ride gravel and fairly tame trails so it works good for me. As you said if you are using it more as an enduro or really hard off road riding than perhaps suspension upgrades are warranted.
Thank you for you feedback. and I am glad you enjoyed the video.
Dino
Great video! You totally nailed its character!
Thank you for the feed back.
Dino
A master piece about DR650
Thank you for the kind words, glad you enjoyed it.
Dino
New subscriber here boss! Also DR owner. Keep up the good work, lookin' forward to more content. Cheers from New Broomstick:)
Thank you for the support and subscription Brad Crossman, it really helps and I'm glad you are enjoying the content.
Dino
Great video! Excellent talking points.
Thank you. Glad you enjoyed it
Dino
I am huge fan of your videos
Thank you so much, I am glad you are enjoying them, Dino
Thank you Dino.
I love my old dr650 it takes me on some awesome adventures
How is it geared on the low end? For someone who wants to take it easy and putt putt around opposed to hauling but everywhere.
Just picked up a ‘90 dr650 with kickstart. It has to be one of the nicest gearboxes I’ve ever used. Easy no clutch up/down shifts, just snick snick snick like a sewing machine. Amazing. Also has a 21l fuel tank as standard. I guess they shrunk that in later models.
Congratulations on the new bike I'm glad you are enjoying it! Yes the Dr's fuel tank did shrink to its current 13l capacity in its last makeover much to the dismay of riders who like to ride for longer distances.
Thank you for the comment
Dino
Awesome review 😁👍
Thank you 😁
Good stuff Dino. Where I live in Colorado here in 2023 the Dr 650 and XR 650 are scarce on the used market and when one comes up they are expensive to the point where buying a new one is a no brainer. Like 20% more and you can buy a new one. Great content, thanks!
Your welcome, glad you enjoyed it
Dino
Great video about the DR650 I like it. I have owned 2 Suzuki DR650s. A 2003 and a 2007. I am thinking about buying a third one after watching this 😆
LOL they are addictive, good luck if you do!
Dino
Great video Dino. Just had to subscribe. I ride the Ontario Quebec border in Hawkesbury. Probably the best choice in a bike for all the reasons you explain. I'm riding a 2019. Modest modifications to make it comfortable and mine. Mountains or highway, swapping the front sprocket turns the big girl from an offroader to a highway star.
Firstly, thank you for the subscription, I appreciate it. They really are fun bikes to both ride and as you said customize. If Karl and I plan a trip your way maybe you can provide us with your favorite routes.
Thank you again and I'm glad you enjoyed the video.
Dino
Grazie di cuore per questo video che è un'antologia sul DR 650.
Ti scrivo dall'Italia e ancora non ho acquistato una dual sport, dopo molte letture e youtuber soprattutto stranieri, canadesi ed australiani, penso di cercare un DR usato con avviamento elettrico (all'inizio mi affascinavano le vecchie Djebel ma la pedivella è troppo scomoda).
Sono alto 1,74 e dovrò abbassare un po' la moto. Età 56
Veramente ancora complimenti per la tua competenza e l'amore per le moto che dimostri in ogni tua frase.
Francesco
Thank you Francis, I am glad you found the video helpful and good luck with your hunt for a DR, I would agree that an electric start model is the way to go if you are just looking for a good dual sport and not worried about the added weight. The nice thing about the DR is lowering it is not too hard.
My mothers parents immigrated to Canada from Italy in the early 1900's, and I love my Italian heritage, thank you for commenting.
Dino
A great review, I bought a 2001 with 7,000 miles for one grand new oil change and car mod we’re already done, I didn’t realize why a gem I actually bought I will add nothing, it goes anywhere I point it but fire-roads are my favorite ride I’ve taken it off on some pretty ruff trails and it just keeps going I love the simplicity of the machine I was looking at the KLR or Honda and I’m glad the DR came first as it’s truly in between the other two.
Great comment and it sounds like a fantastic deal. Thanks for letting others know there are still some good prices out there.
Dino
This man loves his DR, I can see it in his eyes.
This was excellent. I have had a DR650 for a few years. Bought because air cooled, carby, chain drive, if dropped will not cost a fortune. Seat is tough but I made a lambswool cover. No suspension mods( I weigh 74kg). I did shorten the sidestand as it sits too upright when the big Safari fuel tank and side bags are full. I have ridden in Australian desert and shipped it overseas. I do have a big touring bike (AUST like Canada - lot of distance between places) - but the tourer is too heavy in the bush - I would never pick up a loaded tourer in the sand/rocks. Liked your logical presentation.
Thank you for the comment I appreciate it for sure and the insight into how you use it. Australia looks like an amazing place to ride and would live to see t some day.
Thank you again
Dino
Good job Dino.
Thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed it
Dino
Great conclusion, the DR is definitely a middle ground between the KLR and XR650.
That intro was so old school lol.... very fitting for the dr650.
Hey, I'm old myself, lol. thank you for the comment Adam Straub, hope you enjoy the content.
Dino
I find the simplicity of older bikes in general appealing as much as I find the complexity of modern bikes quite appalling.
I agree, I think the new bikes are great but I like the ability to work on the DR a lot and that's why I like it.
Dino
Thank you brother, I'm sure I'll return too a dr for my Western Canada and North America travels. Ride too where I can and go on foot if the terrain looks nasty. I don't need too push my limits these day. A dr bush hog with a bit better tires would take me places I want too explore. I glad you posted this video. Thanks from Don in Western Canada a team player with the ADS group of riders
Glad to know you enjoyed the video
Dino
You will also like the 20 liter gas tank will get you around 500 Km per tank, Did not on my first DR 650 and was the main reason I traded it so made sure my new on had it on before it left the shop. Also would recommended Dunlop TrailMax Mission tires. If getting it new have the switch to them as part of the deal they made a straight swap for me, on my KTM 390 Adventure, and wish I would of don the same on the DR650, but they are on the DR650 now and well worth it, when you hit loos gravel or sand. Will also out last the stock tires 2 to 1 or more.
🇦🇺😎👍Brother I’ve been riding DRs every day for 5 years and my body never stops aching 🤣.
Lol, funniest thing I've heard in a while.
Dino
Thanks for sharing. I use motorcycle chain wax on my cables. IMHO it will be there till the cows come home and I'll never have to replace a cable, especially the clutch cable.
IMHO after the rebuild I think the float valve should be tested by draining the oil out if the engine into a clean container, put a lid on it, hook up your fuel IV gadget and see if fuel starts dripping out of the oil drain hole. If it does you wasted your time and money, but I have confidence in you and ProCycle and I think the float valve will work properly, so install the oil drain plug and put the same clean oil back in the engine if you want to.
What a great tip on the chain wax, thank you. I have never thought about testing the float bowl like that, I think it would work well. I have had good luck over the years setting the height of the float with no issues. The only time I had a problem was when I accidently blew out the seat with compressed air.
Thank you for the information.
Dino
1991 I bought one new. Most comfortable ride ever for me I didnt need a throttle stop or anything for all day highway riding. I'm 5'7" however and off road presented challenges atleast it was a breeze to push or pickup. I was getting ~60mpg feather footing and the tank was large >4.5 gls.
Thank you for the comment, they do sit high for sure but it sounds like you managed to make it work. Thank you again. Dino
@@DinosTinkerShed Well its littlebrother the 400 was a tower! I remember that I did get the shop to apply the lowering 'kit' plus I changed the tyres and the chain before I took delivery. It had a tach too which I use to 'feather
foot' to maximise fuel range. I made some 10-12 hour tours then when I gota dog and had a van pool door to work to door service I wasnt using it and sold it after 4 years..
Thanks for the content. Great info. Your bike sure looks like the one I used to own. Sold it, bought a KLR. Hated it. Bought a bunch of other bikes since and looks like this winter I will buy another DR. Regret selling mine.
Very interesting, it would be cool if this was yours. No chance you used a plastic spoon to mount your ram mount Under the fairing?
Dino
@@DinosTinkerShed Owen sound area. Nope spoon not my idea. Lol. Where about are you?
I'm in Niagara falls
Good valueable thoughts Dino, thanks.
For us who live in developing countries, with lots of gravel roads, scarce mechanical support in the country side and low fuel quality, simplicity and relaiability is way more important than performance. I ride an KLR due to its better comfort in long rides, however have realized that the 34kg less of the DR is a significant plus.
Greetings from Bolivia 🇧🇴
Thank you for the comment, the KLR is another great bike, and was an option for me for sure. I bought the DR mostly because it is air cooled.
Thanks again
Dino
45hundred HP, I need to get this bike 😆
Very informative video, great 👍 👏
Thank you Shaun,
Dino
I truly enjoyed and totally agree with your overview. I think if they just throw injection on it like on TU 250. It will be a great way to continue making these simple machines,
Thank you for the comment, I agree, it would be nice to keep a simple bike like this in production with as little "tech" as possible. there are plenty of other bikes available for those who want all the features.
Dino
@@DinosTinkerShed yes let's hope simplicity will still be available for simple minded folks. I'm on my second Dr. And I'm having a hard time explaining my friends on KTMs that I want to have something I can fix in the middle of nowhere if needed, and not require dealership or insane computer skills and software. They do admit that Dr is going to outlast their bikes many times over but too attached to flashy colors and a need to have "ktm". At least they admit LOL
As an RM rider as a kid, I always thought DR'S were Lame, but now that I'm 53..I want one! ( lol)
Lol, you sound exactly like me, I rode a 1983 RM80, the first liquid machine, the four stroke stuff seemed so boring 🤭. I went right into 2 Stroke street bikes RD and RZ350's ect. But almost 3 years ago I bought the DR and just love it.
Thanks for the comment,
Dino
The Mighty DR 650 is still being offered new at the dealership as of 09-25-2022.....@6999
I'm looking at one because of weight. Although the KLR is more road biased, which is what I plan on doing, I'd like something lighter. Thanks for the vid.
Your welcome, glad you enjoyed it.
Dino
Thank you for the review as I am looking pretty hard at a 2004 DR 650 with 17,000 miles on it . Currently riding a 1978 Suzuki PE175 and RM 250 in the dirt and sounds like the DR650 is a good transition to on /off road fun !👍
The DR is a capable 50/50 dual sport, it will not keep up with the RM in the dirt but it is reliable as a stick, can cruise all day on the highway (if your butt can handle it) and has a great after market and community. I've owned a number of bikes over the years and by far this one is the most fun one to ride. 17,000 miles is nothing to worry about if the bike was maintained well, I have heard some rides say there DR's are over 100,000 miles with little to not issues other than maintenance and tires.
Thank you for the comment and good luck on the DR.
Dino
@@DinosTinkerShed The DR650 owner called me today and said he's ready to sell the bike so I'll be looking at it in the morning . He's actually one of my customers and have had a working relationship for 25 years .
Not sure what he will ask for the bike but imagine we will make a deal . Wish me luck Dino .😀
@@cranerigging3604 right on good luck
@@DinosTinkerShed It worked as I'm now a new member the DR 650 owners club ! 😀 It's actually a 2002 year but the bike looks great and has been well taken care of . Got all the service manuals with it . Thanks Dino ! 👍
@@cranerigging3604 that's great, congratulations, it's great you got the manuals, let me know how you make out with your tinkering 😉
Now I want a DR650
Very good points about the DR what is the windshield you are using?
Thanks
Pat
Thank you for the comment, I use a BMW 650 Dakar windshield on a custom mount, I have a video on it if you search and it shows how I mounted it.
Dino
I am an Australian and a Dr650 fan and I can personally recommend the bushpig, she took me through the outback on the roughest roads with no problems at all, put a Dunlop 606 on the back and a pirelli m21 on the front, I have the safari tank she dose 700 kilometres on one fill and a Sargent seat barret racks I have stock exhaust and stock suspension, she is more like a tractor than motocross, but she is bulletproof and just about every farmer has one in the shed, so parts are always in stock. There is no better choice of steed buy one and enjoy. I bought mine new and will never sell her she is more loyal than a wife.
Solid comment, thank you for taking the time to make it. I'm am sure others will appreciate your experience if they are looking at the DR as a potential ride.
Dino
Dino
Thx Dini FYI i just got a stock 2003 for $1700 being standing for 5 yrs full of mud.. I am collecting them i think lol.. Best Adventure bike 4 sure.
wow, sounds like some cleaning is in order, and most likely some carb work if it was stored with gas in the system 😬. The good thing is the bikes are easy to work on lol.
Thank you for the comment.
Dino
good thing about the mighty DR you cant kill em mines got over 120000 ks hasnt been touched been everywhere and still going strong
Wow 120,000km! that is awesome. just shows the durability of the DR for sure.
thank you for the comment
DIno
Great video! Just wondering how well the carb can handle elevation change without "jetting" problems? Where I live I can have 5000 ft. of change in one ride.
Thank you Ronald, I wish I could provide a good answer to the question. I've never ridden at that elevation. Like any carb I would think it would require some re-jetting to run at its best.
Dino
Hi Dino, there are few DR650's advertised locally & I want to pick one up but looking for electric start ,do you know what year electric start was introduced please? Did a quick search & couldn't find the info. Thanks & thanks for such informative videos!
After 1996 all dr650s only came with electric start. Although some models prior to 96 did have electric start it was an option or limited to certain model variations of the Dr650 and not across the entire model range. Your best bet is to look for one 1996 or later. Hope this helps.
Dino
The DR650 is officially being discontinued in Australia. North America won't be to far behind. Suzuki is releasing a new line of bikes for 2023. I love my 2020 DR, it's my first road legal bike.
I have also understood the DR650's life cycle is coming to an end, In Canada they are still advertising it as being available in 2023 on their website but I think it will be inevitable that it is replaced soon. I have read that Suzuki has developed a 70cc twin that may find its way into the V-Strom chassis, this could also make a great competitor in the small adventure buke market if it is done well.
I suppose time will tell.
Thank you for the comment.
Dino
🇦🇺😎👍3 Bushpigs in the collection
great video. A question - did you play with opening the airbox, re-jetting it etc? Or did you keep this kind of stuff totally stock?
Thanks
At the moment it is stock. I do have a pro cycle jet kit that I will be installing but I bought it to allow the adjustability of the pilot circuit more than increased performance. I have not yet filmed this episode but it is planned.
Thank you for the question.
Dino
on my second DR650 and also had the 600, as well as the KLR 2007. KLR great bike, but put a 20 liter gas tank on the DR650 and the Dr650 wins, at least for me. I now have a DR650 with a 20 liter gas tank, better hand guards and a bash plate and center stand. I also just put Dunlop TrailMax Mission tires on, and put a bracket for the GIVI Trekker 46 liter top box, the TrailMax Mission tires are the best 50/50 tire I have ever had and they last. I also have a KTM 390 Adventure witch I put the Trekker 33/46 hard bags on and the better KTM skid plate and hand guards. Both bikes are keepers. and also have the Dunlop TrailMax Mission tires on the KTM had them put on before the bike left the show room. I do find the DR650 better on rough gravel and dirt roads, and feels better when you hit deep sand, but the KTM is not far behind. Think the DR wins because of the thinner 21" front wheel. Love all the options that come on the KTM Traction control you can turn off ABS 2 settings on road and off road, adjustable suspension front and rear, and the computer system that tells you more than you will ever need to know, all controlled by our left thumb. 2 in the stable and loving it.
Great feedback that I am sure others will appreciate, thank you for your insight.
Dino
I love my 1990 DR exactly because of the maintenance.
On the DR you take off the tank and there's pretty much nothing you can't access.
A grand total of what? 3 bolts?
No coolant to be pissed all over your shoes and floor as you unbolt the radiator so you can access your valves, the carb can stay in place and you don't have to sync it with anything, no need for a special slim spark plug socket because the DR's plugs are actually accessible.
My only gripe with the DR is the balancer chain tension since if you're keeping up with the schedule you'll need a stator cover gasket once a year, which is very wasteful as I don't like replacing gaskets that don't leak.
I'm planning to remedy that the next time I check the tension by figuring out if I can just drill some holes in the stator cover and cutting some threads for plugs.
Is there no access on the pre 96 model?
Dino
@@DinosTinkerShed I apologize for the late reply, for years now I haven't gotten any comment notifications.
However, sadly there is no balancer chain access without removing the cover.
It's still my only gripe with the maintenance.
Благодарю за обзор 🤝
Thank you
Dino
I want one.
There are lots out there Peter, one of them may have your name on it. Thank you for the comment
Dino
The Dr is still made,the same way,after 30 years.The reason is,reliability.Fewer points of failure = Reliability. It is not a thoroughbred,she's more of a Indian Pony or😈Mongolian Steppe pony(war horse)bad Asterisk absolutely!
I owned a DR650 many years ago. I've owned a few bikes since my DR, but it's the one i keep thinking about going back to. My biggest complaint of the bike is the gearing, all the other perceived shortcomings are easily remedied. I'd like to see the gears spread out in a way that gives you a true granny gear at the bottom end, and an overdrive at the top end. 1st is too high & 5th is too low.
Looks at my DR600,
"Don't worry, you're still cool"
DR600's are way cool.
Dino
Just picked up a used DR 650 from a guy in Kincardine today haha
LOL have fun, great bikes. I'm having fun with mine. Thank you for the comment
Great video, you're a natural. Helpful and informative. After watching yours and the Cross Training guy, I bought a 2023. No used ones worth a darn. BUT I AM TRULY UPSDET THAT I BOUGHT IT! WHY? Because looking over the owners manual, I have to re torque the heads and disassemble motor to adjust the counter balance adjuster! PLEASE HELP with some suggestions. I bought a simple bike, because around here I would not trust a mechanic to put air in my tires. Seriously, I am so discouraged I am thinking about selling it.
Please understand, I love the ride and looks as it is stock. But opening the motor just throws cold water on the whole deal. I have no issues adjusting the valves. Also the decompression needs attention often. SUB'd and T-up ! THANKS in advance for the hopefully encouraging words. Maybe I got some bad info!
Thank you for the comment and the questions. As I often do I will point out I am not a mechanic but will provide my opinions when asked.
Firstly congratulations on the new DR650, and I am sorry if you are having some concerns over the maintenance. As I bought mine used I did not receive an owners manual but instead have the Clymer's service manual that I use for maintenance and repairs so I cannot comment on the owners manual information. However, there are a few items that confuse me.
1. the counter balancer on 1996 and newer is gear driven and should not need adjustment as it is indexed to the crankshaft gears. I do not believe there is any adjustment required or available for the 1996 or later models. I believe before 1996 the balancer was chain driven and did require periodic adjustment but I am not 100% sure as I am not really familiar with that engine.
2. Again, I do not have access to the owners manual, but re-torqueing the head bolts is not in the Clymer manual at any of the service intervals. If there is a requirement after 1000km or so, I would think this would be covered by the dealer you purchased this from no? If it is brand new could you call the dealer and clarify?
3. The decompression valve is internal on the 1996 and later and There is no adjustment listed in the manual I have.
It almost sounds like you are looking at a pre 1996 manual not a new 2023 owners manual.
I know I don't seam to be offering much help here and I'm sorry, but I think a talk with the dealer may help out to clarify some of these questions.
Dino
@@DinosTinkerShed GOOD NEWS my concerns are unfounded. After 96 all of those short comings were fixed.
It means the world to me that I can take all my custom parts and move them from my old 1998 DR 650 to a new 2021 DR650....
Not to many bikes have that ability, although the DR lacks some modern features but it is reliable as a stick for sure.
Thank you for the comment
Dino
I like this windshield you know who’s making it?thanks
Hi middlehot
The windscreen on my bike came with it but with no hardware. It is branded with a BMW logo and looking around I think it is off of a 1999 to 2003 f650 Dakar.
I wish I could be more helpful
Dino
Hey can you give me a recommendation on the windshield?
The BMW wind screen I have works well for me, it is large enough to protect me from most of the wind and covers my GPS. I think it is a good option if you have the tools and skills to retrofit it to the DR, if not I think I would try the parablelum brand, it looks similar in size and also looks well made.
I hope this helps, I can only comment on my experience but other on here may be able to comment on other option.
Dino
Did Suzuki sell the RSE version in Canada?
I do not believe they did
Disclosure: No Australians paid Canadians to say I've things about us. We just naturally like each other!
Thanks Lou Vega, I would agree, I think k it must be genetics.
@@DinosTinkerShed and distance. Only neighbours hate each other :)
Saw one for sale other day but priced 2000 over book for 20 years old seemed bit crazy.
Prices right now are off the charts on anything power sports related. Thanks for the comment
Hi Dino, nice vid. Recent DR650 convert. I like how you set up the SATNav on the fairing. Curious what is the screen you’re using?
Thank you for the comment, I use the windscreen that came with the bike when I bought it. As far as I can tell it is a BMW Dakar 650 windscreen, I had to make the mounts to make it work. I do have a video about it as well.
Thanks again.
Dino
@@DinosTinkerShed Ah. Never thought of that. I have a couple of R1200GS and 1250 screens that I could repurpose on the DR. Hehe, to dd more salt to the wound, I could also fit the BMW Navigator 6. Will check your installation video. Cheers.
I'm just trying to find a cheap one, hell I don't even care if it doesn't work. If it didn't work it would be a project bike and if it did, I would probably have to modify it for my use.
Prices on all power sports is crazy right now. I hope you find one that fits your budget.
Dino
The DR650 is tried and true. It's no wonder why the Suzuki DR650 dates all the way back to 1,000b.c.
LOL it does seem like its that old.
Dino
Interessting on how one comes across such Dimonds channel by accident.
Thank you for the kind words.
Dino