Stickying this as I didn't really explain it further in the video, why is this method of gating more effective than say just a noise gate after the amp? -- -- basically it's to do with noise floor (or where you set your threshold) , an amp will be noisy and further amplify any noise that's happening before it so in terms of threshold level, the amount of noise will vary a lot more and also need to be set higher because of it, and won't be as precise or tight for the same reason the beauty of sidechaining the noisegate AFTER the amp, is that even though it's set after the amp, it's listening to your clean DI guitar sound straight from your guitar , there's no extra noise that it has to filter off, so you can set your threshold a lot lower and it'll be a lot more responsive as it's listening directly to your guitar as opposed to what's just in front of it (the AMP) As a more extreme example : Amp noise might vary between -65 and -55 level or more depending your clean DI it'll vary maybe between -73 and -70 depending you can get super tight gating as well by setting two noise gates (one after your guitar and one after the amp) but sidechaining is the most effective i find
Thanks every few years I need to refresh my memory on how sidechain works properly and I also need a better gate than wavemind... and i'm a reaper user. Three from three. cheers from Australia
thanks 🙏 glad it was useful, yeah sidechain is a bit different in every DAW, i find the dragging/dropping into plugins in Reaper seems to work the easiest as shown here, in other DAWs it seems a bit more streamlined, I use Bitwig otherwise, it's a lot more straightforward there
You don't need to use 2 tracks for sidechained gating. Just keep 1 track, insert reatune (or any a submixer js FX plugin) at the beginning, send output of reatune (or the first plugin of your choice) to channel 3 and 4 (aux), and then set your gate (placed later in the chain) just like you did here (choosing channels 3 and 4 (aux channels) as your gate detection inputs).
@@djabthrash yes in reaper there's a few ways of doing it, Phil shows a method with JSvolume on his video, the way i used here is more easily applicable to other DAWs, but will have to experiment to see
Well, it sure sounded clean and tight AF! 👍🏼 But what is the difference between using the Reagate straight after the DI as people normally would vs ur method of sidechaining? 'Cos the science behind this wasn't explained? 🤔
thanks 🙏 indeed, i didn't explain why this method is more preferable to the other basically it's to do with noise floor (or where you set your threshold) , an amp will be noisy and further amplify any noise that's happening before it so in terms of threshold level, the amount of noise will vary a lot more and also need to be set higher because of it, and won't be as precise or tight for the same reason the beauty of sidechaining the noisegate AFTER the amp, is that even though it's set after the amp, it's listening to your clean DI guitar sound straight from your guitar , there's no extra noise that it has to filter off, so you can set your threshold a lot lower and it'll be a lot more responsive as it's listening directly to your guitar as opposed to what's just in front of it (the AMP) As a more extreme example : Amp noise might vary between -65 and -55 level or more depending your clean DI it'll vary maybe between -73 and -70 depending you can get super tight gating as well by setting two noise gates (one after your guitar and one after the amp) but sidechaining is the most effective i find
Stickying this as I didn't really explain it further in the video, why is this method of gating more effective than say just a noise gate after the amp?
-- --
basically it's to do with noise floor (or where you set your threshold) , an amp will be noisy and further amplify any noise that's happening before it
so in terms of threshold level, the amount of noise will vary a lot more and also need to be set higher because of it, and won't be as precise or tight for the same reason
the beauty of sidechaining the noisegate AFTER the amp, is that even though it's set after the amp, it's listening to your clean DI guitar sound straight from your guitar , there's no extra noise that it has to filter off, so you can set your threshold a lot lower and it'll be a lot more responsive as it's listening directly to your guitar as opposed to what's just in front of it (the AMP)
As a more extreme example :
Amp noise might vary between -65 and -55 level or more depending
your clean DI it'll vary maybe between -73 and -70 depending
you can get super tight gating as well by setting two noise gates (one after your guitar and one after the amp) but sidechaining is the most effective i find
Great video man! It's awesome how we can use these tools nowadays to make fantastic music!
@@PippPrissthanks 🙏 for sure, and pretty much for free as well, it's nuts
Thanks every few years I need to refresh my memory on how sidechain works properly and I also need a better gate than wavemind... and i'm a reaper user. Three from three. cheers from Australia
thanks 🙏 glad it was useful, yeah sidechain is a bit different in every DAW, i find the dragging/dropping into plugins in Reaper seems to work the easiest as shown here, in other DAWs it seems a bit more streamlined, I use Bitwig otherwise, it's a lot more straightforward there
You don't need to use 2 tracks for sidechained gating.
Just keep 1 track, insert reatune (or any a submixer js FX plugin) at the beginning, send output of reatune (or the first plugin of your choice) to channel 3 and 4 (aux), and then set your gate (placed later in the chain) just like you did here (choosing channels 3 and 4 (aux channels) as your gate detection inputs).
@@djabthrash yes in reaper there's a few ways of doing it, Phil shows a method with JSvolume on his video, the way i used here is more easily applicable to other DAWs, but will have to experiment to see
Well, it sure sounded clean and tight AF! 👍🏼
But what is the difference between using the Reagate straight after the DI as people normally would vs ur method of sidechaining? 'Cos the science behind this wasn't explained? 🤔
thanks 🙏 indeed, i didn't explain why this method is more preferable to the other
basically it's to do with noise floor (or where you set your threshold) , an amp will be noisy and further amplify any noise that's happening before it
so in terms of threshold level, the amount of noise will vary a lot more and also need to be set higher because of it, and won't be as precise or tight for the same reason
the beauty of sidechaining the noisegate AFTER the amp, is that even though it's set after the amp, it's listening to your clean DI guitar sound straight from your guitar , there's no extra noise that it has to filter off, so you can set your threshold a lot lower and it'll be a lot more responsive as it's listening directly to your guitar as opposed to what's just in front of it (the AMP)
As a more extreme example :
Amp noise might vary between -65 and -55 level or more depending
your clean DI it'll vary maybe between -73 and -70 depending
you can get super tight gating as well by setting two noise gates (one after your guitar and one after the amp) but sidechaining is the most effective i find
03:08 -inf not zero ;)
Zero is unity:)
@@djabthrash very true 😄 good catch, yes minus infinity