Just did my first Africa trip and did a few hundred practice rounds off a set of 2 leg sticks. Legs wide, get lower, butt out, and sticks leaning into me so I'm both pulling them in and leaning into them is what clicked for me. Feel very comfortable to 200 now and made great shots in the field out to 144 yds, but it was a skill that took more practice than I thought it would.
I’ve transitioned to quad sticks round about 2017. Best decision, and my kids love shooting from them also. The quad sticks are extremely stable and they deploy silly quick.
Have experimented with just two sticks tied together as well. Definitely an improvement over shooting long distance off hand. We practiced shooting with slings in the military standing, seated, and prone. I don't use a sling much for shooting while hunting though, just for easy transport.
I've used the one like a Primos Triggerstick in Africa but have not really had the other types explained in use and set up! And as usual a picture is worth a thousand words, video even better!😊Thank you!
Hay Ron what's your opinion on the eld-x bullet when it first came out i was all gun ho I've bought 4 boxes of the stuff but the more research i do the more iam leaning the other way I've seen alot of viedos where all they find is the copper jacket they don't seen to hold together very good iam now leaning towards the nosler AB and the barnes..
Ok, I’m digging those short gators the guide has on. Nothing drives me nuts from wearing shorts and low cut shoes while getting rocks and debris in my shoe. I’m assuming that’s why he’s wearing them?
My dad was from a long line of Arkansas hillbilly. I was taught how to shoot for precision only. That often involved any form of a rest, keep the sights quite. He knew every trick with a .22 . Including running wire with it.
I have User quadropode + extra leg succesful when I have shot whitetaildeers n the field. The longest shot was about 340 meters and I don't saw any movement of telescope sight of my rifle.Then I had 5 deers at that morning!
A friend was an outfitter. He did drop camps; rode for him. Opening morning two seperate clients were just 40 feet above mewhen finaly got light they saw each other. While they were working that around one buck broke cover .old goofer argued it was his .kid was the real owner. While oldgoofer was helping himself another buck jumped out .kid claimed it . Goofy tried again bc it was bigger. I just slipped on out of there with my horse; was getting dangerous all those bullets flying around . Those two didnt know i was there. The entertainment was worth more than the bucks. Goofy was afraid his buck would be stolen. He soured it by storing it in his hot tent.
We get a lot of H2A guys where I live here in the mid south from South Africa. I’ve met dozens of them. Most all blend in really well here in our hunting/gun culture. Several have married local girls and made a home here. They’re all hard for me to understand with their thick Afrikaans accent
Ah yes, the so you can't shoot sticks. These became popular out of Africa. If you talk to those pros, they regularly get old guys who have made the money required to go on expensive hunts, and show up with rifles that still have the point of sale decals on them. Big problem, how do you get someone like that to hit a target as small as an elephant. Then people, millions of whom know how to shoot, maybe learned in a service, look at those safari pictures and go: "so that is how you are supposed to do it...". Get something you can practice with, ideally an air rifle, and learn how to shoot. Put 500 rounds a week through that thing.. That is what I did 50 years ago when I was learning.
Two or three leg shooting sticks are better for most places, including in the hills or mountains, as you can adjust the length of the 'mountain' leg to take into account the slope etc. Quad sticks would be limited to flat plains situations only, I would think? Not too useful where a lot of us hunt.
😅😅😊 I like this stick review better than any I’ve seen. I looked up costs 👀 boy was I surprised how high most are. I found one that was 250+ I got it, also heavy at 14+ pounds. My guns range from 8.5 to 16+. 😅
Oh, yeah the other thing. Action shooters. Top drawer at administration, reloads, etc... And also at hitting 100 MOA targets... Good chance they can shoot well also. But still 100-200 MOA targets...
Practice practice practice with the gear you plan on using! Not a fan of sticks thats fine. Just become proficient with your intended equipment. Train how you want to hunt. Do justice to your target your animal and yourself. Im off my soap box. I've been using two dowl rods tapped together and shoot better than using a lead sled. I made those sticks 18 years ago 🤷
In the research I have done and seeing things firsthand it seems to be because there is little to no benefit in them anymore. When they were introduced a 12 gauge only came in 2-3/4" shells. When compared, a 3-1/2" shell from a 10 gauge was head and shoulders above the competition. But as 12 gauge ammo began to "blossom" and get longer with heavier shot charges, many 3-1/2" loads in a 12 gauge are nearly identical to their 10 gauge counterparts. In factory ammunition, most 10 gauge loads are maybe 1/8 oz heavier than 12 gauge loads. Now, shotgun hunters can run 1 oz dove loads and 2 oz 3-1/2" turkey loads out of the same 12 gauge that they know and love. 10 gauge shotguns are very neat and have their place if you are a purist, but most would agree it's not worth spending the money on two shotguns when one can do everything needed of it.
Hey Ronn I've enjoyed your videos for well over a year,but I must say that I'm very disappointed. You "co-host" Mr. VON HYPOCRITE has really soured my opinion of your videos. It's a free country and you're free to continue using him in your videos, but I'm not going to continue watching unless he's elsewhere. Signed, Mr Disappointed
@theangrycanuck8331 yup he didn't do his research before he opened his mouth. Let these people go. It only a matter of time before they turn on us too
Its better to keep quiet, and keep people guessing how stupid you are than it is to open your yippee and remove all doubt. Lots of strange things can happen when hunting. Mostly they just sound like the old gossip BITTIES THEY ARE MR POLITELY DISSAPPOINTED
I would agree with that statement. The exception would be if you have a shoulder injury that left your shoulder weak. Sometimes that is the only way to steady the rifle.
Spoken like someone who has never taken a standing shot at game beyond 100 yards. Go see how steady you are on a target 300 yards away and then try and shoot a group. If you put 5/5 in a vital zone sized target I’ll eat my hat.
I don’t think this individual that made this comment has as much experience as they think they have… shooting sticks are very common in Africa due to high brush, above average weight heavy cartridge rifles, and often having to wait in the shooting position for some moments. These are used in a very specific environment. Shooting sticks themselves take some practice to get used to, especially with larger caliber dangerous game rifles. Also, shooting sticks, including double shooting sticks, are used in the US as well, especially if you have to rapidly set up in a sitting position (with shorter sticks).
Thanks for continuing to add Joseph to your channel. Both of you do a great job.
Just did my first Africa trip and did a few hundred practice rounds off a set of 2 leg sticks. Legs wide, get lower, butt out, and sticks leaning into me so I'm both pulling them in and leaning into them is what clicked for me. Feel very comfortable to 200 now and made great shots in the field out to 144 yds, but it was a skill that took more practice than I thought it would.
Really good talk, no unnecessary BS, 20 minutes of solid advice!
I’ve transitioned to quad sticks round about 2017. Best decision, and my kids love shooting from them also. The quad sticks are extremely stable and they deploy silly quick.
Have experimented with just two sticks tied together as well. Definitely an improvement over shooting long distance off hand. We practiced shooting with slings in the military standing, seated, and prone. I don't use a sling much for shooting while hunting though, just for easy transport.
Fantastic practical instruction for using mobile support. Nice bunch of men there, the African PH's are super people.
Can we take a moment to appreciate how smooth that shouldering was at the 9min mark.
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Some very useful information here. I learned a few tricks by watching this. Thank you for sharing.
I've used the one like a Primos Triggerstick in Africa but have not really had the other types explained in use and set up! And as usual a picture is worth a thousand words, video even better!😊Thank you!
Hay Ron what's your opinion on the eld-x bullet when it first came out i was all gun ho I've bought 4 boxes of the stuff but the more research i do the more iam leaning the other way I've seen alot of viedos where all they find is the copper jacket they don't seen to hold together very good iam now leaning towards the nosler AB and the barnes..
Ok, I’m digging those short gators the guide has on. Nothing drives me nuts from wearing shorts and low cut shoes while getting rocks and debris in my shoe. I’m assuming that’s why he’s wearing them?
My dad was from a long line of Arkansas hillbilly. I was taught how to shoot for precision only. That often involved any form of a rest, keep the sights quite. He knew every trick with a .22 . Including running wire with it.
Running wire?
Keep.the sights quite what?
Think he meant Quiet. LOL Still don't know what "Running Wire "is though. @@SurmaSampo
@@stephenhair5501 Sights don't make noise so I am still confused as to what he is going on about.
@@SurmaSampo Quiet meaning “steady or not moving.”
I have User quadropode + extra leg succesful when I have shot whitetaildeers n the field. The longest shot was about 340 meters and I don't saw any movement of telescope sight of my rifle.Then I had 5 deers at that morning!
Gold!👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
A friend was an outfitter. He did drop camps; rode for him. Opening morning two seperate clients were just 40 feet above mewhen finaly got light they saw each other. While they were working that around one buck broke cover .old goofer argued it was his .kid
was the real owner. While oldgoofer was helping himself another buck jumped out .kid claimed it . Goofy tried again bc it was bigger. I just slipped on out of there with my horse; was getting dangerous all those bullets flying around . Those two didnt know i was there. The entertainment was worth more than the bucks. Goofy was afraid his buck would be stolen. He soured it by storing it in his hot tent.
I only tried a couple of times, not enough to practice. I find it's a very fine line of too much lean forward, or not enough.
I'm glad you addressed this alot of the fudds on here are waking around with them up their butts. 😅
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We get a lot of H2A guys where I live here in the mid south from South Africa. I’ve met dozens of them. Most all blend in really well here in our hunting/gun culture. Several have married local girls and made a home here. They’re all hard for me to understand with their thick Afrikaans accent
Ah yes, the so you can't shoot sticks. These became popular out of Africa. If you talk to those pros, they regularly get old guys who have made the money required to go on expensive hunts, and show up with rifles that still have the point of sale decals on them. Big problem, how do you get someone like that to hit a target as small as an elephant. Then people, millions of whom know how to shoot, maybe learned in a service, look at those safari pictures and go: "so that is how you are supposed to do it...".
Get something you can practice with, ideally an air rifle, and learn how to shoot. Put 500 rounds a week through that thing.. That is what I did 50 years ago when I was learning.
Dude has the ultimate tutorial voice.
Two or three leg shooting sticks are better for most places, including in the hills or mountains, as you can adjust the length of the 'mountain' leg to take into account the slope etc. Quad sticks would be limited to flat plains situations only, I would think? Not too useful where a lot of us hunt.
😅😅😊 I like this stick review better than any I’ve seen. I looked up costs 👀 boy was I surprised how high most are. I found one that was 250+ I got it, also heavy at 14+ pounds. My guns range from 8.5 to 16+. 😅
That ph for sure was/is a medium scrum rugby player
the inverted v sticks by dead shot are by far superior
Oh, yeah the other thing. Action shooters. Top drawer at administration, reloads, etc... And also at hitting 100 MOA targets... Good chance they can shoot well also. But still 100-200 MOA targets...
Ya forgot the Primos Trigger Sticks.. Shame on Ya ..neat thing with theres can be used though not supposed to walking stick.
Well Done BTW
If you are used to shooting handguns weak side forward the sticks are more easy .
good video
For sticks stand as you normally would offhand, otherwise you just introduce more tension. Bum out my arse!! 😀
Practice practice practice with the gear you plan on using! Not a fan of sticks thats fine. Just become proficient with your intended equipment. Train how you want to hunt. Do justice to your target your animal and yourself. Im off my soap box. I've been using two dowl rods tapped together and shoot better than using a lead sled. I made those sticks 18 years ago 🤷
10 guage shotguns, why don't anyone use them? Why don't any manufacturers produce any new models in 10 guage?
In the research I have done and seeing things firsthand it seems to be because there is little to no benefit in them anymore. When they were introduced a 12 gauge only came in 2-3/4" shells. When compared, a 3-1/2" shell from a 10 gauge was head and shoulders above the competition. But as 12 gauge ammo began to "blossom" and get longer with heavier shot charges, many 3-1/2" loads in a 12 gauge are nearly identical to their 10 gauge counterparts. In factory ammunition, most 10 gauge loads are maybe 1/8 oz heavier than 12 gauge loads. Now, shotgun hunters can run 1 oz dove loads and 2 oz 3-1/2" turkey loads out of the same 12 gauge that they know and love. 10 gauge shotguns are very neat and have their place if you are a purist, but most would agree it's not worth spending the money on two shotguns when one can do everything needed of it.
Make shift, T.P.!
Anyone with proper... common sense already knows this...
Or, you can join everyone else in the 21st century and get yourself a nice tripod.
Totally ridiculous. If u cant shoot natural position, u really have not much buisness hunting
I thought you aim the shooting stick and pull the trigger.
I thought these were supposed to be Ron Spomer videos 🤷🏻♂️
I have learn how to operate a bolt you are are rate Amateur on how to operate a bolt
Hey Ronn
I've enjoyed your videos for well over a year,but I must say that I'm very disappointed. You "co-host" Mr. VON HYPOCRITE has really soured my opinion of your videos. It's a free country and you're free to continue using him in your videos, but I'm not going to continue watching unless he's elsewhere.
Signed, Mr Disappointed
This is not ARAM this is his brother they are twins there are 2 Von Benadicts
Dude is upset at the wrong person out of ignorance and internet trends.
@theangrycanuck8331 yup he didn't do his research before he opened his mouth. Let these people go. It only a matter of time before they turn on us too
Its better to keep quiet, and keep people guessing how stupid you are than it is to open your yippee and remove all doubt. Lots of strange things can happen when hunting. Mostly they just sound like the old gossip BITTIES THEY ARE MR POLITELY DISSAPPOINTED
Shouldn’t use them at all, if your not confident enough in yourself without one….go practice 🤷🏼♂️🙄
I would agree with that statement. The exception would be if you have a shoulder injury that left your shoulder weak. Sometimes that is the only way to steady the rifle.
Spoken like someone who has never taken a standing shot at game beyond 100 yards. Go see how steady you are on a target 300 yards away and then try and shoot a group. If you put 5/5 in a vital zone sized target I’ll eat my hat.
As a solo hunter I use a standing single stick, bipod it for sit or kneel. Any rest is better than none.
I don’t think this individual that made this comment has as much experience as they think they have… shooting sticks are very common in Africa due to high brush, above average weight heavy cartridge rifles, and often having to wait in the shooting position for some moments. These are used in a very specific environment. Shooting sticks themselves take some practice to get used to, especially with larger caliber dangerous game rifles. Also, shooting sticks, including double shooting sticks, are used in the US as well, especially if you have to rapidly set up in a sitting position (with shorter sticks).
Exactly, you shouldn't use a stable shooting platform... for absolutely no valid reason.