I think a lot of Toms fans, not all because I like Tom too, don't listen to or know rap and defend Tom like he is made of glass. The rest of us are here for the beef that rap has always had in it and makes it fun. It's not about right or wrong. It's entertainment!
That’s what happens when you operate out of the political realm the ones you mention are old as hell and only ride with him because of the political topics
I've never seen nor heard of a Tom show. I am going to see Upchurch in Canton in June. Travelling 8 hours from the Philly area. I love road trips and I cant wait to see Upchurch live.
Makes sense. Ryan already had plans for the new album that just dropped… so he started a beef with Tom and Acal to sell more… classic marketing. Nothing to see here…. He’s playing all of yall
As soon as i saw he dropped his songs right after speaking about Adam, i knew he was getting desperate. Plus no evidence to back up what he said about adam. So….
@@HB_Dee615lmao he in everyone's comments crying. You can tell most Tom fans only started listening to rap cause a guy rapped a fox news segment to them.
@@michaelbehrens1179noticed this. All they do is talk views and his political stuff and that’s not what this is about but they just can’t wrap their minds around the fact someone can be in it for the music and not who the vote for.
Yup and what can he really say about Ryan that he wouldn't say himself. Everything Tom does is for clicks. Now it seems he may be doing a song with Rosanne Barr knowing she is controversial and again will get clicks. I truly believe Church makes music for himself and sure he has to love the fact that the creek rocks with him but he is authentic and this is coming from a nyc boy lol.
To simplify the beef. It's one sided. Upchurch just doesn't like tom bcus he thinks he's fake. And church really raps, so since rap it's a competition, he challenged tom to a rap battle to earn respect. If tom would of responded and gone back and forth, I believe upchurch would of ended it right there. Tom uses ryan upchurch and other country rap tags in his videos, so if tom can bring up ryan, then ryan can challenge him to a friendly battle. Upchurch already said it's over since tom didn't want to respond.
@@sinnirr Laughable that y'all keep bringing that up. Guys like Church is not who he was referencing in that song. That old song. Tom can't lyrically compete with Church and he knows it.
@@sinnirr He's not clout chasing. He's calling out a hypocrite. He's not really doing anything he hasn't done for years....he just did it this time to someone you have a crush on. It's amazing how almost none of you on either side or capable or rationale or exhibit critical thinking skills. Just barking, largely out of ignorance.
@@Swearengen1980 Right: Releases a trash diss, about a week later another trash diss, then viola!!! Album drop. Text Book clout chasing. I don't have a 'crush' on Tom, but I know real versus a halfway to the label garbage lyrics rapper, who sounds like he is gargling on a 🍆
Great reaction Britt! I heard that Tom was doing a tour with Falling In Reverse before the pandemic hit. After the it hit, he was really concerned about Nova's health because of the asthma she's been dealing with for years so up to this point, Tom hasn't done a show yet. I hope he hits the road soon bc I would love to see him live. Don't get me wrong, I love Upchurch too and I would enjoy seeing him live too. Tom, please respond to the diss! Let's have a lit diss battle here! May the best man win!
Any 1 want know the truth behind Church/Tom diss just go check out Church's video from "Creeker Round Table" then do his video "Feb 13, 2024" it's deeper any of us thought CHURCH called out Adam & BROUGHT THE RECIEPTS
I find it amusing that upchurch is talking when he looks like the lesbian Nancy from the Roseanne show. Not to mention that he is back with the chick that was running around on him like a sucker
He said Tom isn't getting no attention, yet, here is church doing all he can to get noticed by Tom. 2 tracks, no response, that's the biggest diss of all.
She has severe asthma and not long after they started dating, Nova got just a common cold and her lung popped from her coughing. She was hospitalized for close to a week and it could have killed her. With all the digging Ryan has done on Tom and Nova, it extremely unlikely that Ryan wouldn’t know about that, so to hate on a man for trying to protect the most important person in his life from a respiratory illness that could kill her is a low thing for Ryan to do. It’s not hard to find videos of Tom and Nova performing up until 2019.
Both of his 'diss' tracks against Tom are just rehashed versions of Whack Weasels one 'diss' track. He sounds like he has a 🍆 in his mouth when he talks or raps. Upchurch is just trying to be relevant. 180 views in 2 days for Why Boy, 256k views in 2 weeks for the second one, compared to over a million views in 6 hours for Tom and Bens 'Facts', Oh and look, what just happened... Upchurch comes out with a new album. Tell me Upchurch is chasing clout without telling me Upchurch is chasing clout. #HangOverGang
@@sinnirr you are correct and Tom Macdonald is 10 times the better rapper and person compared to upchurch and he’s just become a mentally unstable drug addict and got jealous of Tom’s success and decided to go after him and Adam for clout , Tom and Adam are the real independent rappers and Tom would body upchurch in a rap battle! #HangoverGang!!
React to Flawd's diss track to Upchurch. Flawd killed Upchurch after Upchurch listened to a clown that said Flawd talked shit on Upchurch's baby (he didn't, and would never), so Flawd made a diss track with great flows and rhyme schemes. It's called Intervention and it's FIRE!
It's like you born for this on the other hand you have been blessed with beauty you could very well have become a model and i say that with aldue respect darlin ❤️
By that logic, church doesn’t have a lane in rap. Country rap is still rap, made by city folk. What church is doing is disrespecting rap by trying to turn it country. Just using your same logic.
@@user-eb1xi9do1c Doesn’t it sound like a teenage girl getting mad because the girl she doesn’t like shows up at the prom in the same dress she is wearing? 🙄
This is what I've gathered and this is what I think Upchurch has been low-key Hatin since the system tom dont mess with haters period hes mad says tom don't like him someone said u gonna make another song with church tom said fuck that guy because the hatin
See my take was “ok this is a rap beef who cares. They are grown men and can handle their own business.”I loved Upchurch’s music and it was refreshing because it was so good. Like Built Like That, Parachute, Ghost, HB, Don’t Ever Die, etc. But This stuff is a waste of time in my opinion. I was told that when I commented the above comment and said also that they will work this out but I was worried about what the very loyal fanbases for both was going to do, not to mention the overlap in fans. I was in the “overlap” I guess. I was told that if I didn’t side with Church (BEFORE A DISS WAS EVER DROPPED, it was just the shower video) than I was WRONG and not a fan of Upchurch if I didn’t already know Church was mad for a reason and I HAD to side with him to be a fan at all, then they continued to insult me. I had not said one negative thing towards ANYONE. I was very confused by all of that. I didn’t take a side at all, I said they are grown men and would work out whatever the issue is. It kept going. Now I was told flat out that I have to agree with Church without any knowledge of what he was about to say or what this was even about, I knew it was just going to be toxic. Maybe because I’m older and I grew up in the age of hip hop being started, so I don’t subscribe to HAVING to pick a side. That’s just stupid. But then the relentless videos after where it was about several reactors didn’t like it, which the first diss was bait in my opinion because it wasn’t good, just my opinion though. I’ve never seen church lash out like that. Then totally twisted another guy’s video to say he said stuff he didn’t say at all and he kept going him. That guy had a small reaction channel and was respectful as hell for saying why he couldn’t listen anymore, his right to feel that way was 100% fine, but it turned into a smear campaign on that guy. Church didn’t stop at going after Tom, he kept posting videos obsessively (I get he was in obsessive mode for the whole diss thing) but I wasn’t into obsessive mode about this and idk how many videos came out but not a typical “rap beef”…..but then he went after FANS (rap beefs don’t usually involve insulting fans, they stick to the person they have an issue with) and now the list is growing to other reactors, other rappers, other people that have nothing to do with him and Tom. I can’t keep up with who is on the list anymore. In one year it was Morgan, Hardy, Chase, Jelly, Struggle, Tom, now Adam (I’m missing some I know) and now adding reactors and fans to it. It’s TOO MUCH! While I believe Church has personal issues with these people, it doesn’t have to be your focus to the point you stop making music that was changing the game of music to waste time on this stuff. If he has issues with these other people, cool, take it up with them. The worst stuff church has put out is rap beefs with these people. The amazing stuff we all know he’s genius at, he’s dropping out and only focusing on this. I can honestly say I was a fan of both, for totally different reasons, their music is different. 90% of Tom’s music is not “political or controversial” they happen to be popular but his music has saved lives and that’s the stuff I love from Tom and Nova. Church has had great stuff that also helped people in bad times. ALL of this is so EXTRA that I can’t listen anymore. And if I can’t be a fan of Church’s and Tom’s and I’m being told I have to pick a side, then I’ll oblige them. It’s not this stuff though. I don’t like the level that this all sunk to. This has exceeded a “beef” and I am so ready for it to stop. I’m glad Tom didn’t respond. Seeing him doing major interviews after his song, that’s great for Tom. Church then claiming a win in 24 hours and insulting fans of Tom was weak as hell. I know this is long. I apologize for that but I’ve learned I have to pick my words carefully or the new version of unleashing on people happens. Bottom line, church is a great artist, this is a focus he has that doesn’t look or sound good (IMO) and others can love it. If it was just about Tom, it is what it is, but he didn’t stop with Tom. And since when can liking two different artists become this big of a problem? It doesn’t make sense to include all these other people into a rap beef.
Listen, I'm a Tom fan all the way, hell I wouldn't even know who Upchurch was if I hadn't stumbled across Tom 2 years ago when I turned 65 yrs old. However, having said that, dang it, Upchurch got great lyrics and there's no denying the man can sing. Just think for a minute about how entertaining it is for us to watch as entertainers play "Tug Of War". Next thing you know we'll see the 2 of them in a well planned and comical battle of words in a video together !!!
Sorry Brit. no like & I only watched one minute of the video no algorithm bump on this one. Church thinks it's cool to be the victim while Tom will remain The Man!
Fan of both Tom and Church. As time passes, Church gets harder, and Tom is going soft. Toms last few songs are just so-so. Toms not hungry anymore. You missed by Tom was great because he was pissed off. The last other 7-8 songs are just ok. CHURCH IS KING!
As a fan of both i'm between a rock and a hard place,,,but i cant ignore the fact that it was Tom who brought me out of my darkness towards music post the year 2010! Tom and Nova turned the lights back on,,,they freed me from my musical depression! I'm a bit offended by reactors who owe Tom and Nova for many of their new subscribers! Now you call out Tom for not responding to Ryan's disses,,,Tom dropped the ultimate diss track to his haters on "No Response"! Let me ask you,,,who brought more listens to your platform? Tom and Nova or Upchurch? Pick a side to this beef or pound hamburger,,,pun intended! I suggest not giving Upchurch your platform to diss Tom,,,if he wants to diss Tom he can its a free country but as a loyal fan of Tom and Nova why give Upchurch volume on your channel? Whatever happened to loyalty?
That's hilarious. I guarantee you Upchurch has twice the money and definitely sold out 10 times more shows since Tom doesn't do any that's how they make their money😅 youtube and iTunes is peanuts compared to live shows. Also, how many Platinum tracks does Tom have? Upchurch has three. I'm pretty sure Tom's always bragging about physical copies.
I fucking knew it!!! Upchurch is losing his shit ruclips.net/video/15Z4EwN-WvE/видео.htmlsi=99zgdKwJMYT7WaYx Upchurch used to like Tom they even did a song together.Adam and church are good friends.Adam hated Tom.They buried the hatchet and Now Upchurch is losing his miind.maybe I'm wrong but it seems like jealousy to me
So one thing I’ve seen is that Upchurch has, from all the way back to the “outlaw” song with Luke Combs, has been a way that is don’t pretend you are someone you aren’t. The entire song in my opinion explains at least a good part of why Church feels the way he does the first verse says it clearly: Let me get a outlaw like the man who raised me up Haulin' chickens to Kentucky in the back of beat up trucks Because all I'm seeing now is Hollywood wearin' some huntin' gear And TV shows 'bout idiots that think country is drinkin' beer I'm sick of seein' skinny jeans smilin' like a cover girl I wanna see some kids outback with .22's poppin' squirrels I wanna see some young guns goin' out on a duck hunt And lesser of this Flappy Bird and actin' like a lazy bum 'Cause trends got it twisted and they make country a petty style Now where's all my country folks that actually could go survive When that stock market crashes, I'll be somewhere deep off in these pines Killin' shit, kickin' ass, and takin' what the hell is mine Then the hook is we don’t need another Purdy boy sangin purdy songs, fake country boys doing country all wrong! Plus the fact it’s rap and this is part of it. Someone trying to challenge the king better be able to respond or you’re fan base will be boomers only😂
I follow and I’m a big fan of upchurch. Upchurch is mad because Tom made fun of the country rap scene and of country people so that’s why upchurch is coming at the transgender Hannah Montana Tom McDonald
5 headed is not the actually forehead it’s his head is big from thinking he is the shit big head that’s what it’s about the how big is your cap he is capping how big is your lies not a actual size of head you know upchurch he has layers
Tom isn't going to respond because he had a ghost writer write a blanket diss just to say I'm not doing any more diss tracks. As a rapper why else would he do that not knowing what might be said in the future unless he just doesn't have the skill to do so. Just my opinion.
Ive said it and I’ll keep saying it. Upchurch is about this rap ish. He’s all about the rap culture. And the country culture so he’s authentic. Tom is about making money. He raps gimmicks to make money. He’s not about the rap culture. He’s not a lyricist like that. He won’t beef because he’s not good enough. He uses rap to make money period.
Tom literally has a song called no response. Ryan’s diss 1 only has 447k views in 2 weeks and diss 2, 223k views in 3 days. We all know Ryan is clout chasing and keep him from getting more views, you stay silent and win that way.
🤣🤣🤣🤣 Upchurch has 700 million more views. Has more gold and platinum records. Has the number 1 album in the country right now. Tom won't respond because he doesn't want to get shown up. That's the facts. Upchurch wants people to rap and not rap some fox news segment for clicks.
Tom doesn't want this smoke. Ryan has so much dirt on Tom that he can't reply. I promise, Ryan has talked to Mad Child ( Tom's long-time friend) and got plenty of info on Tom.
I found Upchurch through Toms music and became a huge fan. Yela wolf and Upchurch are extremely skilled rappers. Tom is good, but he doesnt really flex his skills that often. So it's hard to say if his skills are near church's level. I'm with you, Tom needs to respond and up his game while doing it.
Tom stepped in his lane lightly and Upchurch didn't like it. That's what i get from what Tom actually did musically about making it seem like he's part of some southern lifestyle and rebellion to the government 2nd amendment. Im just here for some good rap and beef that isn't mainstream.
Thomas is a FAKE Hip-Hop/ Rap artist. He knows he can't hang in with the big guys or gals, lyrically. Mac was pretty much retired lost his touch in battle rap and ended up slightly losing. He should of practiced more before coming at Tom. Mac in his prime was a beast in battle rap, but you do lose that ability when you're no longer battling. Anther good example, Joe Budden was retired for years and has been practicing lately cause he wants to get back into battle rapping and knows if he goes straight back in he'll lose. Cassidy also explains this and is a crazy good battle rapper. He stopped making music for years cause he chose battle rap instead. It's an art and skill to be able to battle rap and that's what this is. It's a competition, it's a battle rap competition. I stuck of Tom claiming that he's #1 and in the streets aint nobody gives anshit about Tom. Only none Hip-Hop/Rap people like Tom. True Hip-Hop/ Rap fans don't like Tom cause his FAKE, corny and cheesey and REAL Rap/Hip-Hop ain't any of those.
I think a lot of Toms fans, not all because I like Tom too, don't listen to or know rap and defend Tom like he is made of glass. The rest of us are here for the beef that rap has always had in it and makes it fun. It's not about right or wrong. It's entertainment!
That’s what happens when you operate out of the political realm the ones you mention are old as hell and only ride with him because of the political topics
Facts. I fugg with both. I really wanna hear tom respond tho.
@shawnplace9740 i want that too but church would cook him lol church is the better rapper objectively speaking and no one could convince me otherwise.
As a GenXer, I've been listening to music a long time. Starting a beef with someone who isn't bothering another isn't my bag. Seems petty and jealous.
@@Zro...Untrue.
His pen lethal. He rapped rapped on this one.
Yes, he did!!!!
Yea I don’t know what’s Tom is gonna do but he’s gotta do something
Ryan put out a snippet of a third track at the same time he put out a snippet of this track, so he's still sitting on at least one more track.
And he’s gonna sit on it. The numbers tanked and he’s seen that Tom and Adam aren’t his path back to the level he once was.
I've never seen nor heard of a Tom show. I am going to see Upchurch in Canton in June. Travelling 8 hours from the Philly area. I love road trips and I cant wait to see Upchurch live.
Thank you!!!
Congrats on the number 1 album in the country. Yall all deserve the recognition for the work that was put in to make that happen.
@@michaelbehrens1179 thank you! 🙏🏽
You're welcome!
@@brittreacts - grabs the Swedish fish…. I love your reactions!!! Congrats on the new baby. Xoxo
It looks like Upchurch just released a new album(Blue Genes II)
It's flopping...
No one cares unless you are a member of that cult.
Knew that was coming... read 🍆 in the mouth like a bad book.
@@BB-ft6ndthat's why it's on top and ahead of Killer Mike who just won a Grammy. You Tom fans are all clowns
@@RyanB257 Pot meet kettle.
Makes sense. Ryan already had plans for the new album that just dropped… so he started a beef with Tom and Acal to sell more… classic marketing. Nothing to see here…. He’s playing all of yall
As soon as i saw he dropped his songs right after speaking about Adam, i knew he was getting desperate.
Plus no evidence to back up what he said about adam. So….
@@RyanB257found you again on RUclips crying like a 6 year old girl
@@HB_Dee615lmao he in everyone's comments crying. You can tell most Tom fans only started listening to rap cause a guy rapped a fox news segment to them.
@@michaelbehrens1179noticed this. All they do is talk views and his political stuff and that’s not what this is about but they just can’t wrap their minds around the fact someone can be in it for the music and not who the vote for.
Dude, do u know him n any facts, no u just like us,
Nothing but bars after bars. Upchurch came out swinging, he don't mess around. How could Tom respond after that? Everything Upchurch said was true.
Yup and what can he really say about Ryan that he wouldn't say himself. Everything Tom does is for clicks. Now it seems he may be doing a song with Rosanne Barr knowing she is controversial and again will get clicks. I truly believe Church makes music for himself and sure he has to love the fact that the creek rocks with him but he is authentic and this is coming from a nyc boy lol.
Tommy, when Britt tells ya to suit up, ya gotta suit up.
Tom is the internet hero, youtube big mad at church😂😂😂😂
Come on dude that is an exaggeration 😆 i like Tom too but his music is getting stale. Hopefully he changes it up
bro tom is wack ... Upchurch is way better also destroyed him for the second time lol
@@thanksmr.obvious6427
It was meant as a diss because Tom doesn't really sell albums or do shows, all his hype is on the internet
@thanksmr.obvious6427 no question Upchurch is the better rapper, I agree. Upchurch isn't charting these days but I feel like he could come back.
@@joshdahmen3277his new album is the number 1 rap album on itunes right now.....
One of my new favs off the new album is Bad Mamma Jamma. The soul. The blues. The lyrics. Chef's kiss 😘. ✌️❤️🐔
I didn't get to listen to the whole album yet but once bad mamma Jamba was over it went right back on repeat lol
@@michaelh3715 Exactly 💯 that's my shizz right there ❤️
I think the Sting line goes over everyone's head, he did in fact bring wrestling into this, b/c tom too was a jobber, sting not so much
🔥🔥🔥 upchurch is just calling cap on Toms whole situation
Actually the Bic bar was about Bic pens. Same company though I believe.
it's a double... weak pen game, and weak flame...
@@spyro257yup both
To simplify the beef. It's one sided. Upchurch just doesn't like tom bcus he thinks he's fake. And church really raps, so since rap it's a competition, he challenged tom to a rap battle to earn respect. If tom would of responded and gone back and forth, I believe upchurch would of ended it right there. Tom uses ryan upchurch and other country rap tags in his videos, so if tom can bring up ryan, then ryan can challenge him to a friendly battle. Upchurch already said it's over since tom didn't want to respond.
Tom did respond: Don't Look Down.
@@sinnirr Laughable that y'all keep bringing that up. Guys like Church is not who he was referencing in that song. That old song. Tom can't lyrically compete with Church and he knows it.
@@Swearengen1980 Don't Look Down addresses all the clout chasers, past present, and future
@@sinnirr He's not clout chasing. He's calling out a hypocrite. He's not really doing anything he hasn't done for years....he just did it this time to someone you have a crush on. It's amazing how almost none of you on either side or capable or rationale or exhibit critical thinking skills. Just barking, largely out of ignorance.
@@Swearengen1980 Right: Releases a trash diss, about a week later another trash diss, then viola!!! Album drop.
Text Book clout chasing.
I don't have a 'crush' on Tom, but I know real versus a halfway to the label garbage lyrics rapper, who sounds like he is gargling on a 🍆
Loved your reaction❣️
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Great reaction Britt! I heard that Tom was doing a tour with Falling In Reverse before the pandemic hit. After the it hit, he was really concerned about Nova's health because of the asthma she's been dealing with for years so up to this point, Tom hasn't done a show yet. I hope he hits the road soon bc I would love to see him live. Don't get me wrong, I love Upchurch too and I would enjoy seeing him live too. Tom, please respond to the diss! Let's have a lit diss battle here! May the best man win!
Asthma..... I mean........ruclips.net/video/u2v-rxh3Nn4/видео.htmlsi=c1zpaCOA7e72_Mmy
Any 1 want know the truth behind Church/Tom diss just go check out Church's video from "Creeker Round Table" then do his video "Feb 13, 2024" it's deeper any of us thought CHURCH called out Adam & BROUGHT THE RECIEPTS
Subed .... Creeksquad till the muthufukkin casket drop
HB Utah
Creek cult
@@joshpowers3315 ok .. TomBot
Nova better write Tom something fire if they’re going to try to respond.
She is by far the more talented one
Tom did respond: Don't Look Down
I wouldn’t respond either, upchurch has clearly lost his mind like he is lost his friends, family and even mother.
@@RyanB257keep making excuses. Tom isn't on ryans level when it comes to rap
I find it amusing that upchurch is talking when he looks like the lesbian Nancy from the Roseanne show. Not to mention that he is back with the chick that was running around on him like a sucker
She was cute when she was young, she was in King of Comedy
HB Wisconsin
Tom Can't Reply.. Church has dirt on him, Like major dirt.. I suggest people YT search this... dO yOu WaNt To PlAy a GaMe?
CREEK SQUAD CHURH CHURCH!!!!!
He said Tom isn't getting no attention, yet, here is church doing all he can to get noticed by Tom. 2 tracks, no response, that's the biggest diss of all.
Ren just dropped a new track "Fred Again Mashup" which is fire fyi
Church trying to stay relevant. Tom is probably sitting there with Nova slumped over in laughter. He is begging for attention.
Thanks! Would love Watts and Bipolar ! Both true produced by Kalani and they’re 🔥
nice to see upchurch reactions
In 3 days Playboy The Beast is dropping Shook Ones an ACal Diss.
Upchurch Blue Genes 2 Album that just dropped and it's Number 1 in all genres. Beodnax on quite a few tracks. Boosie is also on 1 track.
#1 Where? The Clout Chasers club? I don't see a single song from Upchurch on iTunes or Amazon.
@@sinnirr you're a liar and it's all over Instagram and RUclips 🤡
@@sinnirrThey like to lie.
I suggest you actually visit ITunes before you embarrass yourself. Over ten albums on ITunes for upchurch . Cmon bro. Really?
@@RyanB257yeah everyone posting the same thing I said and I'm the one lying. 🤣🤣🤣 you Tom fans are what you claim the left is.
He stopped doing shows during Covid because of Nova having auto-immune conditions & other health problems.
He never did a show clown
She has severe asthma and not long after they started dating, Nova got just a common cold and her lung popped from her coughing. She was hospitalized for close to a week and it could have killed her. With all the digging Ryan has done on Tom and Nova, it extremely unlikely that Ryan wouldn’t know about that, so to hate on a man for trying to protect the most important person in his life from a respiratory illness that could kill her is a low thing for Ryan to do. It’s not hard to find videos of Tom and Nova performing up until 2019.
@@sosleepygetssgets1373 Yep. I knew that but people are gonna talk about what they don't know anything about.
@@briang6815 💯
Church!!!
President church has a nice ring to it.
Oh this Country would really go to hell then.
@@joed5256 isn't it already
Both of his 'diss' tracks against Tom are just rehashed versions of Whack Weasels one 'diss' track.
He sounds like he has a 🍆 in his mouth when he talks or raps.
Upchurch is just trying to be relevant. 180 views in 2 days for Why Boy, 256k views in 2 weeks for the second one, compared to over a million views in 6 hours for Tom and Bens 'Facts',
Oh and look, what just happened... Upchurch comes out with a new album.
Tell me Upchurch is chasing clout without telling me Upchurch is chasing clout.
#HangOverGang
@@sinnirr you are correct and Tom Macdonald is 10 times the better rapper and person compared to upchurch and he’s just become a mentally unstable drug addict and got jealous of Tom’s success and decided to go after him and Adam for clout , Tom and Adam are the real independent rappers and Tom would body upchurch in a rap battle! #HangoverGang!!
React to Flawd's diss track to Upchurch. Flawd killed Upchurch after Upchurch listened to a clown that said Flawd talked shit on Upchurch's baby (he didn't, and would never), so Flawd made a diss track with great flows and rhyme schemes. It's called Intervention and it's FIRE!
It's like you born for this on the other hand you have been blessed with beauty you could very well have become a model and i say that with aldue respect darlin ❤️
I’d pay a good amount for her only fans as well.
She married bud.
Sad
Tom disrespected church's lane of business. Simple as that. And church going to expose tom for what he really is.
Who gives a s..t. Nobody owns anything, LOL
By that logic, church doesn’t have a lane in rap. Country rap is still rap, made by city folk. What church is doing is disrespecting rap by trying to turn it country.
Just using your same logic.
@@user-eb1xi9do1c Doesn’t it sound like a teenage girl getting mad because the girl she doesn’t like shows up at the prom in the same dress she is wearing? 🙄
This is what I've gathered and this is what I think Upchurch has been low-key Hatin since the system tom dont mess with haters period hes mad says tom don't like him someone said u gonna make another song with church tom said fuck
that guy because the hatin
See my take was “ok this is a rap beef who cares. They are grown men and can handle their own business.”I loved Upchurch’s music and it was refreshing because it was so good. Like Built Like That, Parachute, Ghost, HB, Don’t Ever Die, etc.
But This stuff is a waste of time in my opinion. I was told that when I commented the above comment and said also that they will work this out but I was worried about what the very loyal fanbases for both was going to do, not to mention the overlap in fans. I was in the “overlap” I guess. I was told that if I didn’t side with Church (BEFORE A DISS WAS EVER DROPPED, it was just the shower video) than I was WRONG and not a fan of Upchurch if I didn’t already know Church was mad for a reason and I HAD to side with him to be a fan at all, then they continued to insult me. I had not said one negative thing towards ANYONE. I was very confused by all of that. I didn’t take a side at all, I said they are grown men and would work out whatever the issue is. It kept going. Now I was told flat out that I have to agree with Church without any knowledge of what he was about to say or what this was even about, I knew it was just going to be toxic. Maybe because I’m older and I grew up in the age of hip hop being started, so I don’t subscribe to HAVING to pick a side. That’s just stupid. But then the relentless videos after where it was about several reactors didn’t like it, which the first diss was bait in my opinion because it wasn’t good, just my opinion though. I’ve never seen church lash out like that. Then totally twisted another guy’s video to say he said stuff he didn’t say at all and he kept going him. That guy had a small reaction channel and was respectful as hell for saying why he couldn’t listen anymore, his right to feel that way was 100% fine, but it turned into a smear campaign on that guy. Church didn’t stop at going after Tom, he kept posting videos obsessively (I get he was in obsessive mode for the whole diss thing) but I wasn’t into obsessive mode about this and idk how many videos came out but not a typical “rap beef”…..but then he went after FANS (rap beefs don’t usually involve insulting fans, they stick to the person they have an issue with) and now the list is growing to other reactors, other rappers, other people that have nothing to do with him and Tom. I can’t keep up with who is on the list anymore. In one year it was Morgan, Hardy, Chase, Jelly, Struggle, Tom, now Adam (I’m missing some I know) and now adding reactors and fans to it. It’s TOO MUCH!
While I believe Church has personal issues with these people, it doesn’t have to be your focus to the point you stop making music that was changing the game of music to waste time on this stuff. If he has issues with these other people, cool, take it up with them. The worst stuff church has put out is rap beefs with these people. The amazing stuff we all know he’s genius at, he’s dropping out and only focusing on this.
I can honestly say I was a fan of both, for totally different reasons, their music is different. 90% of Tom’s music is not “political or controversial” they happen to be popular but his music has saved lives and that’s the stuff I love from Tom and Nova. Church has had great stuff that also helped people in bad times. ALL of this is so EXTRA that I can’t listen anymore. And if I can’t be a fan of Church’s and Tom’s and I’m being told I have to pick a side, then I’ll oblige them. It’s not this stuff though. I don’t like the level that this all sunk to. This has exceeded a “beef” and I am so ready for it to stop. I’m glad Tom didn’t respond. Seeing him doing major interviews after his song, that’s great for Tom. Church then claiming a win in 24 hours and insulting fans of Tom was weak as hell.
I know this is long. I apologize for that but I’ve learned I have to pick my words carefully or the new version of unleashing on people happens. Bottom line, church is a great artist, this is a focus he has that doesn’t look or sound good (IMO) and others can love it. If it was just about Tom, it is what it is, but he didn’t stop with Tom. And since when can liking two different artists become this big of a problem? It doesn’t make sense to include all these other people into a rap beef.
Check out creeker round table and then Feb 13th 2024 that will explain it all
BIC makes pens too btw....
My favorite bar is i got the juice. Not shapiro recognition. The Juice like Oj simpson. Shapiro was one of Ojs lawyers. Lol
and as in jews because Shapiro is Jewish
Listen, I'm a Tom fan all the way, hell I wouldn't even know who Upchurch was if I hadn't stumbled across Tom 2 years ago when I turned 65 yrs old. However, having said that, dang it, Upchurch got great lyrics and there's no denying the man can sing. Just think for a minute about how entertaining it is for us to watch as entertainers play "Tug Of War". Next thing you know we'll see the 2 of them in a well planned and comical battle of words in a video together !!!
Sorry Brit. no like & I only watched one minute of the video no algorithm bump on this one. Church thinks it's cool to be the victim while Tom will remain The Man!
Fan of both Tom and Church. As time passes, Church gets harder, and Tom is going soft. Toms last few songs are just so-so. Toms not hungry anymore. You missed by Tom was great because he was pissed off. The last other 7-8 songs are just ok. CHURCH IS KING!
Go watch Ryans round table on his page and you'll get the full picture instead of rumors 😉 💪🤘
As a fan of both i'm between a rock and a hard place,,,but i cant ignore the fact that it was Tom who brought me out of my darkness towards music post the year 2010! Tom and Nova turned the lights back on,,,they freed me from my musical depression! I'm a bit offended by reactors who owe Tom and Nova for many of their new subscribers! Now you call out Tom for not responding to Ryan's disses,,,Tom dropped the ultimate diss track to his haters on "No Response"! Let me ask you,,,who brought more listens to your platform? Tom and Nova or Upchurch? Pick a side to this beef or pound hamburger,,,pun intended! I suggest not giving Upchurch your platform to diss Tom,,,if he wants to diss Tom he can its a free country but as a loyal fan of Tom and Nova why give Upchurch volume on your channel? Whatever happened to loyalty?
thank you!
😂 I didn’t know either one. Tom American Flags and Upchurch just because his problem with Tom. It business making money…🔥💨
His beats are incredible
Now supposedly acal is next on his radar
I actually think ACal is at the root of Church going after Tom first.
@Swearengen1980 I agree sucks I like them both
@@alexolivier5509 I do as well. But Church is right, Tom is a hypocrite. His own lyrics prove it.
Bottom line is that Tom is just too big for Upchurch that he doesn’t need to respond… the lion doesn’t care about opinions of sheep
😂😂😂🤡🤡🤡
That's hilarious. I guarantee you Upchurch has twice the money and definitely sold out 10 times more shows since Tom doesn't do any that's how they make their money😅 youtube and iTunes is peanuts compared to live shows. Also, how many Platinum tracks does Tom have? Upchurch has three. I'm pretty sure Tom's always bragging about physical copies.
@@KyleLB420 I sincerely hope you don’t believe that 😂
Tom don't want the smoke
Britt really
I fucking knew it!!! Upchurch is losing his shit
ruclips.net/video/15Z4EwN-WvE/видео.htmlsi=99zgdKwJMYT7WaYx
Upchurch used to like Tom they even did a song together.Adam and church are good friends.Adam hated Tom.They buried the hatchet and Now Upchurch is losing his miind.maybe I'm wrong but it seems like jealousy to me
So one thing I’ve seen is that Upchurch has, from all the way back to the “outlaw” song with Luke Combs, has been a way that is don’t pretend you are someone you aren’t. The entire song in my opinion explains at least a good part of why Church feels the way he does the first verse says it clearly:
Let me get a outlaw like the man who raised me up
Haulin' chickens to Kentucky in the back of beat up trucks
Because all I'm seeing now is Hollywood wearin' some huntin' gear
And TV shows 'bout idiots that think country is drinkin' beer
I'm sick of seein' skinny jeans smilin' like a cover girl
I wanna see some kids outback with .22's poppin' squirrels
I wanna see some young guns goin' out on a duck hunt
And lesser of this Flappy Bird and actin' like a lazy bum
'Cause trends got it twisted and they make country a petty style
Now where's all my country folks that actually could go survive
When that stock market crashes, I'll be somewhere deep off in these pines
Killin' shit, kickin' ass, and takin' what the hell is mine
Then the hook is we don’t need another Purdy boy sangin purdy songs, fake country boys doing country all wrong!
Plus the fact it’s rap and this is part of it. Someone trying to challenge the king better be able to respond or you’re fan base will be boomers only😂
Hard to respond when it’s all true
Tom lives in Cali and he thinks he can make county rap better ! That's stupid !!!!!
Breaking news! Austin Brown leaving Home Free.Going solo
Damn, I am here for Upchurch and didn't know I would see this :( Wish Austin the best.
Okay
Earl Winslow kicking Steve out the house family matters he kicked Tom out of his lane
I’m pretty sure Steve Urkel’s neighbor’s name was Carl Winslow
So who is Earl Winslow?
In the rap game, for a white boy, Upchurch is someone you DO NOT want to mess with. He WILL win. Period
I follow and I’m a big fan of upchurch. Upchurch is mad because Tom made fun of the country rap scene and of country people so that’s why upchurch is coming at the transgender Hannah Montana Tom McDonald
Can you let me know where Tom made fun of country people and what he said?
Upchurch is just stirring up shit. If Tom wants to roll in Hip Hop he better get used to getting hammered by diss tracks.
5 headed is not the actually forehead it’s his head is big from thinking he is the shit big head that’s what it’s about the how big is your cap he is capping how big is your lies not a actual size of head you know upchurch he has layers
CHURCH is a reel one!!! Great reaction!😊
Tom isn't going to respond because he had a ghost writer write a blanket diss just to say I'm not doing any more diss tracks. As a rapper why else would he do that not knowing what might be said in the future unless he just doesn't have the skill to do so. Just my opinion.
Don't Look Down... all that needs to be said.
Probably wont hear from Tom until Upchurch has the #1 spot. 😂😅
U ready
Ive said it and I’ll keep saying it. Upchurch is about this rap ish. He’s all about the rap culture. And the country culture so he’s authentic.
Tom is about making money. He raps gimmicks to make money. He’s not about the rap culture. He’s not a lyricist like that. He won’t beef because he’s not good enough. He uses rap to make money period.
tom macdonald is better than upchurch period!!
Hahahahahahahaha where's his response church went in on his girlfriend him t is a B
Tom literally has a song called no response. Ryan’s diss 1 only has 447k views in 2 weeks and diss 2, 223k views in 3 days. We all know Ryan is clout chasing and keep him from getting more views, you stay silent and win that way.
🤣🤣🤣🤣 Upchurch has 700 million more views. Has more gold and platinum records. Has the number 1 album in the country right now. Tom won't respond because he doesn't want to get shown up. That's the facts. Upchurch wants people to rap and not rap some fox news segment for clicks.
All while Upchurch does 3 times Tom's daily streaming numbers. Quit with the cap and drinking slop directly from your leader's tap.
@@michaelbehrens1179 Platinum and Gold albums, and not one single song anywhere on the Billboards. Embarrassing AF.
@@sinnirr 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 what's embarrassing is the fact you're blatantly lying and it's hilarious
Tom is from Canada lives in cali and is on CNN apparently some. Tom is fake if ya ask me
I don't like thos flow from him. These diss tracks are kinda weak tbh
Yall keep forgetting.....Church has receipts....tom is fake and its coming out
He’s been saying that for at least 3 weeks now? What is he waiting for? He is saying now that he is done dissing Tom and moving on to Adam I guess.
Iam really good
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Lutis creast
Up u coool but u need to leave tom alone u not him
Tom McDonald did respond he sent Adam Calhoun through a snowstorm to try to talk Ryan down so I would say that was somewhat of a response.
Yeah, a response by a bxtch. If Tom tried to get someone to talk Ryan down, that alone is literally LMFAO. Tom is scared, end of story.
His first diss to Tom was just a warning. He had the big guns just waiting to blast him with this.✌🏻
Hey Britt thought you
Liked Tom?
Doesn't matter who yu like. Do you like hip hop? Or u just HOG because of his political b.s
You can be a fan of both, it's rap, disses are part of the game, it's personal for the artist not the audience that goes for creek and hog
@@aviator2252 exactly. You're either a fan of hip hop. Or not.
I hate these people that comment trying to get reactors to stop reacting to certain artists, it's lame af, just enjoy the music quit being a weak bic
@@aviator2252 ok, guess
I am old and out of the
Loop! Thx. 72 really like
Tom's messages!
You react to this but not Omegle bars 100? Smh.
cute ‘do 😘
Thank you! 🤗
First
You lost me
Tom doesn't want this smoke. Ryan has so much dirt on Tom that he can't reply. I promise, Ryan has talked to Mad Child ( Tom's long-time friend) and got plenty of info on Tom.
🤣🤣🤣 All lies. Madchild doesn't look down either.
I found Upchurch through Toms music and became a huge fan. Yela wolf and Upchurch are extremely skilled rappers. Tom is good, but he doesnt really flex his skills that often. So it's hard to say if his skills are near church's level. I'm with you, Tom needs to respond and up his game while doing it.
Obviously you have not seen Tom's whole catalog, or have his albums. A lot of his best aren't videos.
Carl Winslow's cousin Earl kicked Stan out the house 🏠 of Hip Hop 😂 CREEKSQUAD 🍄💕🌹
Church taking us back to school...where immaturity and childish namecalling runs rampant.
Hmm, I guess you don't understand Hip-Hop and are part of the woke crowd. Shave your neck beard and lay off the soy lattes, bubba.
Hey flawed diss Upchurch it's ca intervention it's dope
Tom’s an American citizen.
I love u bro but leave it😊
Tom stepped in his lane lightly and Upchurch didn't like it. That's what i get from what Tom actually did musically about making it seem like he's part of some southern lifestyle and rebellion to the government 2nd amendment. Im just here for some good rap and beef that isn't mainstream.
Thomas is a FAKE Hip-Hop/ Rap artist. He knows he can't hang in with the big guys or gals, lyrically. Mac was pretty much retired lost his touch in battle rap and ended up slightly losing. He should of practiced more before coming at Tom. Mac in his prime was a beast in battle rap, but you do lose that ability when you're no longer battling. Anther good example, Joe Budden was retired for years and has been practicing lately cause he wants to get back into battle rapping and knows if he goes straight back in he'll lose. Cassidy also explains this and is a crazy good battle rapper. He stopped making music for years cause he chose battle rap instead. It's an art and skill to be able to battle rap and that's what this is. It's a competition, it's a battle rap competition. I stuck of Tom claiming that he's #1 and in the streets aint nobody gives anshit about Tom. Only none Hip-Hop/Rap people like Tom. True Hip-Hop/ Rap fans don't like Tom cause his FAKE, corny and cheesey and REAL Rap/Hip-Hop ain't any of those.