Star Wars: Why a Rey Movie will Fail
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- Опубликовано: 19 сен 2024
- Kathleen Kennedy, Lucasfilm and Star Wars have landed themselves in an interesting spot with the announcement of a new Star Wars film that will feature Rey...because the last three movies apparently didn't do enough of that.
Join me as we discuss the film, its director and why the movie will ultimately flop. 
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I love that Marcia Lucas the Oscar winning editor of the original Star Wars thinks Rey is a joke and that Kathleen is an idiot.
Here's the quote: “Now that she’s running Lucasfilm and making movies, it seems to me that Kathy Kennedy and J.J. Abrams don’t have a clue about Star Wars," Lucas said. "They don’t get it. And J.J. Abrams is writing these stories - when I saw that movie where they kill Han Solo, I was furious. I was furious when they killed Han Solo. Absolutely, positively there was no rhyme or reason to it. I thought, 'You don’t get the Jedi story. You don’t get the magic of Star Wars. You’re getting rid of Han Solo?' ”They have Luke disintegrate. They killed Han Solo. They killed Luke Skywalker. And they don’t have Princess Leia anymore. And they’re spitting out movies every year. And they think it’s important to appeal to a woman’s audience, so now their main character is this female, who’s supposed to have Jedi powers, but we don’t know how she got Jedi powers, or who she is. It sucks. The storylines are terrible. Just terrible. Awful. You can quote me - ‘J.J. Abrams, Kathy Kennedy - talk to me.'”
@thumos George Lucas a man, who has earned respect unlike these nonsensical feminist political propaganda Hollywood creators.
@@thumos Thank you for that statement, everyone sees it, except the responsible ones. It's that boss-blindness I experienced in previous companies I worked for, they think they're great but aren't and produce one shit after another, lose money and their conclusion in the end is: "We need to work harder than before!" Elon Musk is such a guy too. ;-)
STAR 🌟 WARS DISASTER. TALKING ABOUT FEMINIST LEADERSHIP
@@kamukameh Musk has some of the narcissism and egomania associated with other daft CEO's but he also is damn near a genius. Kennedy and her entourage are as dumb as the worst feminists are, and far more insecure. Musk told Bob Iger to "Go f*ck yourself," and it was the best thing that happened in 2023.
Rey is more of a plot device than a character. Hyperdrive broken? Rey it. Kylo Ren being a big threat? Rey it. Jake Skywalker moping? Rey it. There is nothing there to work with. And then the apathy. I have not been interested in a Star Wars product in years. I used to be mad, I used to love it. Now, I just don’t care.
I fell asleep in the theater during the Rise of Skywalker with my nephews. I couldn't bring myself to care. What a mess.
What's the difference between a plot device and a character
Mary Sue
@@elfascisto6549 Well-written characters come across as real people, whom you identify with and care about. You're drawn into their story. Plot devices exist purely to progress the plot by getting the story from A to B.
The most obvious example of a plot device from the sequel trilogy is perhaps Maz Kanata. We learn almost nothing about her, she has no character progression and she is in the story purely to give Rey Anakin's lightsaber and some sage advice.
The lack of characterization in the sequels becomes apparent when you compare the main characters with those from the original trilogy. Luke, Han and Leia had distinct personalities and character arcs. Their friendship develops over the trilogy.
Rey, Finn and Poe are cardboard cutouts by comparison, with only Rey having any character progression. Their relationship exists purely to advance the story, which is why their friendship isn't convincing.
@@GonzoTehGreat Also they use the hopelessly cliché magical negro trope for her as well.
Another reason why a Rey movie will fail is because nobody asked for a Rey movie. The crappy sequel trilogy was her movies.
"Hope breeds eternal misery."
Stealing that line 😂
The narcissistic amnesia isn't just a Star Warts thing, it's become predominant throughout Hollywood... ax exemplified by one of the executives claiming that the reason that one of the latest girl-boss bombs failed was that men don't identify with female heroes, completely forgetting characters like Ellen Ripley, Eowyn, Sarah Conner, b-movie heroes like Red Sonja.
Even in gaming there have been a spate of excellent female heroes like Rynn and Lara Croft that were always very popular.
When comparing many of the modern remakes to their usually vastly superior originals, what the remake usually lacks is character development. Even when they don't gender or race swap the protagonist, they usually forget that what made that hero great the first time around was overcoming great odds, not being powerful. The best heroes are never as powerful as the villains they face.
Yeah Captain Marvel was even more unlikeable and overpowered than Rey was. Talk about Mary Sue. Ugh.
Red Sonja's great.
They rather promote and push female characters that have no unique backstory of their own, conquer adversity with ease, have someone maybe with feelings for them but will never be with them in the end, and anything they don't know how to do they learn how to do in minutes or seconds. Also, if they do have a loved male character in the same movie to do any fighting they must make sure that their power level never outshines a woman's.
@@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 I felt like Ray was. I mean she went from mastering while being shot at on how to fly the millennium Falcon to having the power to heal people or revive them back to life using the force.
@@keithpace9870 You have a point. They both were insufferable Mary Sues
You don’t even have to stick to recent history and cite Bryce Dallas-Howard and Deborah Chow.
Leigh Brackett co-wrote Return of the Jedi- the culmination of the entire saga. I would call that “helping shape the story in a galaxy far, far away.”
And NOBODY would (or ever has) denied the importance of Marcia Lucas’ innovative editing to the success of the original movie. She won an Oscar for it. Her contribution cannot be understated, and she definitely “helped shape the story.”
(Not to mention that, for better or worse, a female has been PRESIDENT OF LUCASFILM for over a decade now).
This “it’s about time” shit simply illustrates how little Obeid-Chanoy knows or cares about Star Wars.
Exactly!!! However the fact that that new director is allowed to say that is because she is only following Kathleen Kennedy's mantra for her Lucasfilm:
"Let the past die. Kill it if you have to".
They needed to kill the past or else everyone will only see the people whose shoulder they stand on.
The "quality" of episodes 1,2, and 3 had me convinced that Marcia Lucas was the talented one of the two...
Or at least, she was the only person on the crew willing to smack George Schmuckas in the face for doing the stupid bean counter things like turning the Force into a farce with midichlorians.
she's just repeating all the same woke talking points which is all the media elite do anymore. Everyone is sick of it outside their little self-reinforcing bubble.
@@rakeshmalik5385 I love the prequels (and no, I wasn’t a little kid when they came out), and didn’t see the issue with midichlorians. It doesn’t demystify the Force, it just moves the mystery one step back. Nothing is really different except for the fact that Jedi can measure Force potential.
As for the editing of the prequels… Yeah, Ben Burtt is a REALLY good sound designer… 😏
What is so disappointing that George went back and tampered with the original trilogy, most damagingly a new hope ruining certain aspects of it undoing much of his wife's amazing work.
I don't find Rey interesting, and part of this is because I don't belief the writers love this character, and it shows. She is simply a political statement to them. Conversely I would offer Hobbits who "Tolkien loved as they represent the small slice of life he enjoyed, even in a world threatened by war". From humble beginnings and skills at the start, at the end we get "Aragorn : [to Frodo, Sam, Pippin, and Merry] My friends. You bow to no one."
No it's a Kathleen Kennedy self insert character
There is one way I would accept a Rey movie, and that’s if it included Finn and made good on the premise of ‘The Force Awakens’. Finn is clearly supposed to be Force sensitive and the premise was that Rey and Finn would take the journey as Force Sensitive people together…
Sadly it looks like JJ met with resistance and kicked that can down the road to where RJ took every Chekov gun JJ primed and dumped them into the ocean, where on… somehow JJ returned… and kept kowtowing to ‘Don’t give Finn the force spotlight’ that JJ nonetheless alluded to without stating Finn has the force.
That was what the trilogy should have been about. Two people coming together, with Rey going Dark and Finn being the weaker of the two being prepared to die to save her so they could oust the dark side.
I say I would be interested… but at this point it’s an academic interest. Disney SW under Iger and KK have to go and the franchise put on restoratives before I’ll watch anything SW made under Disney again.
That’s interesting point that the writers or possibly executives of the sequel trilogy don’t actually seem to care about the female characters they’re writing and were just used as some sort of political tool or narrative device to keep the story going.
Like if they really want us to care for these characters, then they’re not giving them anything meaningful to do and are making them into generic caricatures.
Instead of giving challenges for them overcome, they seem to promote superficial stoic qualities because apparently, anything else is a form of weakness in Lucasfilm’s skewed eyes.
REY MOVIE DISASTER. SERIOUSLY,,,
Rey going to the Dark Side was the *only* natural progression for that character to work, and that got chewed up so hard! The story basically wrote itself!
Rey is extremely Force sensitive, without a known past, and with no sense of belonging. She's faced hardship her entire life. When she's exposed to her Force potential after resisting Kylo's mind probe, she begins to get a taste for the first time of true power.
Finn is a First Order trooper, who can't come to terms with who he is, and is lost in the crimes he's committed under orders. After escaping, he, too, finds that he's Force sensitive and has a natural affinity towards using a lightsaber.
Kylo is a powerful Force user, but is conflicted in who he is and who he wants to be. The pull of the light is strong, despite years of Dark Side training.
How much easier can it get? Initially, everyone thinks Rey is going to be the hero. She seems to be taking the hero's journey until she's captured. However, Snoke senses Kylo's inner turmoil and compares it to Rey's growing arrogance and power potential. He imprisons Rey and goads her to hate the unfairness of her mistreatment - in her having been abandoned to survive for herself - and in pushing the narrative that she's a cut-throat survivor, gradually lures her to the Dark Side. Snoke then betrays his former apprentice, rendering Kylo left for dead.
In Rey's absence, Finn goes to complete her task and seek out Luke. However, Kylo survives, and is now convinced of what he has to do. Believing his uncle is the only person left capable of defeating Snoke, he seeks him out. To do so, he goes to the only people in the galaxy who won't take advantage of his weakened state: his parents (and Chewie). They forgive Kylo, as he retakes his name Ben, and as a family they go to find Luke. That's where Ben reunites with Finn. They talk about their past actions and traumas. In such mental healing, it helps them to forgive each other and themselves, and grow closer to the Light Side. Luke was busy seeking spiritual guidance in restarting a new Jedi Order; and seeing the Force providing him with the opportunity, forgives Ben for his acts of attacking the former temple and trains Finn, before (respectfully) dying in the process in the presence of Han & Leia. However, the Millennium Falcon was tracked by the First Order, and the island is attacked. To cover Ben & Finn as they escape, Han, Chewie and Leia take the Falcon into a dogfight, but ultimately go down. It's then up to Finn and Ben to carry the Jedi torch, and to end the growing Dark Side that Rey and Snoke have threatened to revive.
It's no masterpiece, but it's a solid enough outline. The plot isn't hindered by whether Rey is a Palatine or not; isn't damaged by coward Luke or zombie Sidious; removes the painful teenage love story; introduces new characters without dumping on the old; is respectful to Ford's desire to no longer play Han, and to Carrie's death; maintains Anakin's place as the "chosen one" for killing Sidious; and took about half an hour to iron out for a YT comment 🤷🏻
The same executives are in charge. The Story Group that hasn't been able to produce a coherent storyline is still there. Everything is still focused on a Social message. "Use the Force, Luke. Let go." Great stories end. This one ended with Return Of The Jedi.
Yes, the 'Rey Palpatine' movie will fail and potentially flop as hard as The Marvels. Let's put it out there: Is the character Rey a "Mary Sue"? ABSOLUTELY. That fault lies at the feet of the writers and higher ups with LucasFilm and Disney. In my opinion, Rey should've had more to grit to her...more mistrust in people due to her being a scavenger. Unfortunately, the movie audience got a character (barely) who can do anything, who doesn't struggle, free from consequences for her actions etc. Disney Star Wars had three bites of the apple to get Rey right...sadly they didn't.
I really can't see Ms. Obaid-Chinoy pulling this film off. Look, she's a two-time Oscar winning director and is passionate about her activism and that's fine. However, when it comes to things that aren't documentaries...aside from directing two episodes of Ms. Marvel, it's light. Now add the statement she made about women in Star Wars onto it: Houston, we've got a problem. To me, Chinoy and her statement reminds me of Rian Johnson and his "subvert expectations" nonsense. To put it bluntly we're getting a socio-political message instead of a God-damn story...AGAIN.
Quick side note: Nerdword, I agree with your opinion on Finn/John Boyega. To see the potential of the character and actor just completely wasted still angers me to this very day. I would say one can add Rose Tico/Kelly Marie Tran to that as well. Could you do a video about this subject? Call it the "wasting of characters" or "character mismanagement" or something.
I think it's safe to say that The Sequels, through ineptitude and other factors, have become the gold standard of cautionary tales. 🙂
I still think it would have been awesome if she had been seduced to the dark side, but there's no way Kennedy would allow any portrayal of a woman who could be weak and evil.
Let's face it. She's not really going to direct this film. She's just there to look pretty and do PR for the company. We all know that Disney doesn't allow directors to have control over its movies.
One thing that struck me as odd was when Rey was marking the days gone by scratching a line in metal. She doesn't do a line across at 5. Just a lot of | | | | | | | | | | | | | |.
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Control that which you can control, accept (not surrender to) what you cannot.
- Marcus Aurelius
The "representation" train that railroaded the black former slave soldier into a comedic relief simp.. ironically Rey and Finn actually had good chemistry in the first film
They had friend chemistry. It really painted the duo into a corner, and then the writers didn't have the balls to let Rey temporarily be seduced to the dark side with Kylo. **That** would have been cool.
He committed the grievous Hollywood sin of being male. Can't have that.
"[Rey] had all the charisma of an eggplant."
Hey! Don't diss aubergines like that!
Or a soap dish lol
Lots of content on this topic already but i think you fleshed it out in a more nuanced way. Nicely put together.
also dont people claim that what save the original starwars from being flop was Marcia Lucas cut of the film?
She edit helped a lot she should get more credit for shaping star wars literally not Kathleen Kennedy or any of her sycophants
Don't forget Marcia Lucas who did the editing of the original trilogy as well as the other was a co-writer of Empire Strikes Back. There was always women involved in Star Wars.
The hyper obsession feminist have with taking male centered franchises and turn them female is tiresome. It’s not empowering or good storytelling. It’s also incredibly divisive.
Our culture sucks.
I laugh at the fact that the people in charge of Star Wars today always forget that the film that started it all in the 70´s was originally shaped (and saved!) by a woman, the great and visionary Marcia Lucas. What´s up with these "modern" people?
KK "Rey the bestest at everything, she deserves another movie"
Dragons den "we're out"
Darth krayt (and his entire sith order) has left the chat
Enough said my dear. Why your one my favorites lately
The term thirst trap really is a silly term, in my opinion. Alongside calling people salty or a term being called spicy.
Remarkably, I'd say Rey wasn't the female character least liked in all the Star Wars trilogy. I think that honor went to the abysmal Admiral Holdo.
the 🐭/KK missed an prime opportunity to introduce a interesting character in Rey… it would have been enlightening to see her from a child abandoned by her parents on a desert world… 1. how did she survive prior to events of the Disney trilogy 2.was she placed in an orphanage 3.did she had to resort to petty crime 4.did she form any friendships 5.when did she realize she had special abilities 6.could a wondering Force sensitive individual mentor her during her formative years 7. what were her dreams and aspirations… the writers really blew it!!! 😢
That is actually creating a character. Way too deep for them.
in my personal opinion, there's no chance it'll actually get made. instead, it will join the dozens of star wars films that are announced and then never heard about again haha.
Disney have proven themselves to be morally and creatively bankrupt in recent years with a number of woke driven retellings of some of their older films failing at the Box Office and igniting anger in the Fandom.
That is what happened to the Sequel Trilogy too. They had an opportunity to expand on George Lucas' story in the aftermath of the Empire and the rebuilding of the Republic and the Jedi Order, but instead they ended up turning the Sequel Trilogy into a retelling of the Original Trilogy, a massive error of judgement that upset the Fandom as the OT is revered.
Because of the mess they made, news that they want to further expand on their idiotic version of the OT went down like a cup of cold sick, coupled with the news an activist with no experience in blockbuster filmmaking was hired seemingly not to make a good film, but rather to further diminish the alleged Patriarchy in the Fandom.
Well done. It will be just as pointless and vapid as Ms. Marvel, but with the added pain and insult of beating the dead horse of a once truly beloved franchise. While people loved the Avengers, it wasn't really multigenerational. They self-immolated in the "strong female character' fire much faster.
The ability to direct a movie has little, if anything, to do with what you have between your legs. It actually comes from the empathy towards the story, the people that you work with and above all the audience that you seek to entertain. Now that actually supports your statement that the year does not make any difference either. Rey is little more than a self insert character put there to bolster someone's ego, hence the lack of character depth and relatability and a bad director, or at least an incompetent one with a prior AGENDA, will only make that worse. The only thing we do not know as yet is the actual story that is to be used - we have only had speculation so far - and when we find that out, we shall then know to what degree this movie will fail.
I like toffee popcorn...
I don’t dislike Rey as much as some people, I just think she’s was poorly written. I felt that there were so many opportunities for good writing and a good origin for Rey but for some reason, they were passed over for what we have now.
7:19 WRONG!!! Rey Palpatine!
The directors didn’t care about trying to figure out Finn or other characters. Lazy writers and film people. The character is everything. One of the biggest reasons why media mostly fails now. Humans needs stories. Not empty spectacles or lectures.
"Apathy is death. Worse than death, because at least a rotting corpse feeds the beasts and insects." -Darth Traya
I always find funny when they say men don't want women in lead roles in games or action movies. When that is not true, I look at a game and movie that guys loved those characters. The first being Alita Battle angel. Guys loved the film and want a sequel. And a game that just got a release date for May Hellblade 2. I see guys online looking forward to that games release. What guys want is well written women not Mary Sue's.
I could approve of handing the reins over to independent or documentary filmmakers - if they were making new properties. A lot of disney films lack resonance. But I'm not sure there's any reason to think her creative vision would align with the franchise. Unless she can avoid conforming to her own tastes, she's taking something built by George and - out of ego - altering it, with very limited bona fides. I don't see why it needs to be made unless it's meant to set up the next round of diverse star wars standard bearers. Unless they think there's an appetite for Rey, the logical move is set up spin offs.
Didn't they already make 3 Rey movies?
she is a commercial to sell toys and shirts.
Except she doesn't sell anything... Star wars merchandise are rotting in discount shelves since force awakens
Nah, that's Grogu's job
Disney still thinks there's this giant untapped female market for superhero/star wars movies when it's always primarily been a teen boy/young man thing. That's why no amount of pimping of Captain Marvel made any difference.
Well duh, this is Star Wars we're talking about here.
As someone who worked fashion retail during the heinous trilogy, I can assure you that crap was HARD to get rid of. Eventually our store had to push products to almost wholesale price, because it had outstayed by about a year.
The entire Star Wars/Trek thing has been some of the saddest part of my adult life … my buddies fighting over things, criticism against the people who made the Profitable in the first place and the Negative feedback from people just discovering the franchise through this trash. 🚮 this icon represents how I am currently handling this New Information. I can’t even be angry, not openly anyway, without being labeled or disappointed in myself.
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Star Wars is a big world. They would have an infinitely better chance at success telling a different story than Rey. That ship has sailed. As for Sharmeen… if they posted the director job on an online job site, they could get 100 more qualified director choices for a Star Wars film.
Sorry this is 6 mos late, but as an OT fan from the age of 7, I enjoyed the intent, if not the execution of, the prequels, GL wanting to tell Vader's story. That is, the story of the previous generation. So when it came to the sequels, I was ready. Then with each movie, my enthusiasm turned to anger, and finally sadness. Since the movies, the D+ shows have turned that sadness to apathy. I enjoyed Mando, even s3 though to a lesser extent, and I likewise enjoyed Asokha (as a fan of her development in all seasons of CW). That story went in a weird direction, but okay, lets see where it goes (although, for the love of god, not everyone has to have goddamned jedi powers…). Especially intrigued by the "dark jedi" and their story, sadly the passing of RP makes that challenging.
As you covered here, Rey is an uninteresting character. Would love to have seen the next generation (the point of SW trilogies here are generational), but what we got was a prodigy beyond the likes of Anakin/Vader, and by extension his bloodline in Luke and Leia. If GL continued, he probably would have focused on the same bloodline. But its Disney's now, so sure they want to go elsewhere, fine. Unfortunately they went into this with no plan. How the fuck do you try amd follow up one of the most valuable IPs and not have a plan other than "female lead". Like, that's the first five minutes of the storybuilding, then you move on to flesh out the character. Disney appear to have taken lunch after those first five minutes and not come back to the table and just started writing. So, give me an interesting female protagonist and I'm there. These writers filled out the demographic check boxes amd never looked back.
Hello NerdWord. I really like your analysis & appreciate a female perspective since most of the film analysis content seems to come from the male perspective. I'm a guy so my worldview is from the male perspective too. I'm wondering how you feel about all the 'female empowerment' narrative you talk about mostly coming from male writers? Is this what men think women want? I'm genuinely interested as it's clear something is out of alignment, and to fix the problem, you must first understand the problem. Any insight would be greatly appreciated. Keep up the good work!
All this stuff just comes across as vindictive rather than inspirational, or even cautionary. Like a therapy session for angry immature people to lash out because life isn't fair.
I'm definitely not NerdWord... but I think I can help answer your question anyway.
1) "Is this what men think women want? " - male writers wrote movies (etc) that women love... for decades.
2) "... mostly coming from male writers?" - a bit more complicated...
IS it coming from male writers? Or is it coming from "male" writers?
Either way... is it being forced on them by female bosses... like KK and Salke to name 2... with a certain social agenda? (the same one you put in quotes in your own post)
IMO, that also explains the reason that it comes across as being vindictive...
because it is.
@@Nyet-Zdyes Thanks for that. All great insight. The result is clearly films & TV shows that just feel angry. I engage with films/TV to be entertained, not be on the receiving end of a rant about some grievance I personally had nothing to do with. As far as I'm concerned such people should direct their anger where it belongs.
This was a really well done video-essay, do you know of any Master/Student stories whether they be in books or movies that you could share with me? I can't seem to find any and i'd really like to check some out and gain further insight into that specific trope.
"It's about time we had a woman come forward to shape the story in a galaxy far far away".
If she is talking about herself; that is ignorance, hubris, and a lack of knowledge of previous women directors/show runners.
If she is talking about characters in the movie, then wasn't Rey the main character in the sequel trilogy?
If her point is that one extra data point of women directing or starring in movies is added, then sure. This does that. Would it encourage young girls to start wanting to act and direct in film? Sure, but also they would be more likely if you made a good product with a female character can relate too.
Well, this Frankenstein's Monster of a character isn't going away any time soon. Best we can hope for is seeing her reduced to a side character in a Disney+ cartoon about her Jedi students. God, I miss the original Expanded Universe.
There's simply no foundation on which to build anything even remotely interesting: the sequel trilogy burned out a large portion of the fanbase, both the older ones and those who grew up with the sequels.
Rey is a character created for marketing... and in fact, after the release of the film the merchandising (especially on her) remained unsold... unlike what could be observed with the release of The Phantom Menace or Revenge of the Sith.
Furthermore, on my personal point, I have always found that hairstyle they gave her, with those three knots on the back of her neck, very anti-aesthetic, a literal eyesore.
I know she has her fans, Disney must think they'll be enough to make a profit on this movie but I have my doubts, specially with how much Disney likes to bloat their movie budgets.
I didn't know my better half when we were children but we both queued outside our local Odeon (seperately - me with my mates, and her with her older sister) to watch the Original Star Wars movie back in the late 70's. She has been a sci-fi and fantasy fan ever since (she was always a bit of a tomboy... heaven forbid, these days). So... if after 20 minutes of watching Dr Strange MoM she says I've watched enough of this... I'm off, you know she's not impressed. She hated Captain Marvel (the first movie) and will re-watch the original SW trilogy, but has absolutely no interest in watching the Rey movies (once Han was murdered she was done).
I was alright with the Rey movies upto the point where Han was killed, as well, and niether of us has any interest in any future Rey movies.
The second season of The Mandalorian was so bad that it put us off watching any of the other tv series... so we haven't. RIP Star Wars!
i can’t fathom any way i enjoy a rey movie unless its some alternate timeline where they forget the sequels happen and remake her character 😭
The ability to to not have expectations is possibpe but takes a life time. Good luck hope to see you around
I agree!
KK doesn't tolerate anyone other than her wahman powers to interfere in Fail Wars, so yeah this is entirely on her
bryce dallas howard should be directing it.
“Much earlier in the 20th century it was deemed acceptable to abuse one’s wife or children.”
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Because Rey was a Palpatine, said Luke Skywalker.
That new director... well... the one that was *announced* ... just revealed how utterly ignorant she is about Star Wars.
And the reason she shouldn't be allowed within ten miles of it.
A woman has been running the show for Star Wars since Dismal bought LucasFilm... running the show right into the ground... with the "able" assistance of her hand-selected mostly-female "story group".
What people don't understand (or don't WANT to understand), is that this has nothing to do with money. The current Culture War is IDEOLOGICAL (dare I say, 'Religious'?). The current buzzword, 'Woke', is a vague, undefined term that is used by people who try to use it honestly, as a stand-in for the Cultural Marxism that it actually does represent.
Modern Feminism/Postmodernism/Relativism, all these are ultimately related to, and derived FROM, Cultural Marxism. It is a belief that everything in our world is merely a Social Construct. It posits that Objective Truth does not exist (Except of course, that SOLE Objective Truth...) so everything can be set by Personal Feelings and those who have the power to enforce their personal feelings on the rest of the world.
What they did to Luke was disrespectful.
I've become a bit apathetic as well but one biggie flag for me is the um.."lady" director who's a complete asshole with a chip on her shoulder basically being insulting and off-putting immediately. Not how you win or retain loyal fans. She needs to go back to her documentary films which I understand she did very well.
New to channel here and I like it. 👍 Well Done
It was over the day The Force Awakens made it past the story boards
I was still invested until we got Luke. Then it was really dead.
I no longer have expectations.
I LOVE Big Brother!
If Rey sacrificed herself to save someone they could redeem her. Like Poochie from the Simpsons.
I could see a Rey movie working if it turned out that when she killed Sidious, he actually did become her, and that scene where she's burying the lightsabers in the sand, he didn't have full control of her body just yet, and was trying to keep it on the way down low... thus the 'Rey Skywalker' claim...
Collective mamnesia
The Rey films really catalysed my interest in the EU.
I do hope they make this movie, as expensive as possible, and watch how miserably it’ll do in the box office.
Both male and female fans do not like Rey as a character. The only people who would go to watch the new Rey film, are absolutely not real Star War fans, and will mostly be liberal women who will watch this film just to “stick it to the guys”.
These type of people are not worth anyone’s time, because they are ideologues.
I personally believe the worst of everyone, that way I'm seldom disappointed.
The Rey movie will fail like TCW movie.
I think Lucasfilm and Dave Filoni is just the way of george lucas
George lucas did not care about what fans thought of the prequels.
He did TCW movie it flopped at the box office
the first 4 seasons of clone wars were seen has a kids show. the raitings on cartoonnetwork were really bad.
but guess what
the kids who grew up with love clone wars era now.
thats what i believe lucas film is doing. just keep up with the new republic shows and rey movies. And kids of today will grow up loving it. the old fans will die eventaully.
0:22 i am a person who gave up on hope a long time ago. I can confirm its quite nice when something is bad then ur not disappointed or surprised and when its good its a pleasant surprise like finding $5 in the drier when doing laundry
Oh! I know!
THE FORCE AWAKENS Sucked.
ROGUE ONE That was good.
LAST JEDI Sucked.
RISE OF SKYWALKER Sucked.
OBI WAN series Sucked.
WILLOW Sucked.
MANDO Dead now.
BOOK OF BF Sucked.
SOLO Least of the evils.
GALAXY SC HOTEL Closed due to WOKE plague.
ANDOR Well, even a broken clock is right twice a day.
INDY 5 $700. million up in flames.
AHSOKA You still don't know why you fail.
New Rey film Anyone left in this burning building is a moron.
Why is it we keep blocking this area, keeps showing up?
It’s as if all the neighbours at the street bbq are right in cancelling cable and watching only old dvd collections anymore.?
Adam Driver and Daisy Ridley are two of the worst actors in the history of cinema
Yeah, I don't get the hype over Adam Driver.
Isn't this movie on indefinite hiatus? It won't even get to fail.
Watching Disney fail is entertainment enough for me.
If they wanted a female protagonist, Jaina Solo was right there
I'm sure she is a talented documentary filmmaker as that is her background, but certainly doesn't qualify her to head Star Wars film
Expect the worst. If you succeed, all surprises will be at least mildly pleasant.
Creative minds and modern Hollywood go together like horse and cabbage...
Keep That Same Energy- KTSE
The only one who did Rey justice was Rian Johnson, who tried to inject some personality into this nothing of a character.
I'm sure Ridley is a very nice person, but she's an awful actress who had to be carried through 3 movies by Adam Driver. She cannot hold another movie on her own.
Yeah, Daisy Ridley should quit acting. She makes Brie Larson look good in comparison.
The damage done to female action leads has been set back 50 years. They could change course now and make epic female material, and it's still going to bomb. Female leads and Disney equal failure going forward, and it has bled into other movie companies. It's in video games. it's all around us.
*_I've given up on Disney._*
Its funny how many people hopefully await Kathleen's departure ... presuming everything will be fine then.
I doubt that ...
Especialy now, after Ahsoka, wich was Dave Filoni's own project ... since he is *the one and only* people talk about as KK's sucessor. :-/
Mark my words ... it wouldnt get much better.
why so menny thurts trap...grrrrr....that particular endigitation segment portion area instance
I love your content this is coming from an EU fan
No need to tell us the movie will flop. The concept itself blows harder than an industrial leaf blower. I ain’t gonna be watching this junk, and in fact, nobody should see it to teach these greedy executives that their strategy is failing!
Defect of our species... we never give up hope
Can someone please call Tony Gilroy & his crew so that they can get a write a script that redeems these characters that wete so poorly written. As a fan, I feel insulted by the subpur quality of the writing on the disney trilogy, even thought I checked out after 1st act of of Force awaked. Sorry Disney, the suits at the top are not creatives and should be removed so that someone, anyone who can write a disent script step in. Yo, dave filoni ain't it. The word on the streets is Disney can't produce cinema anymore. Guess its time to increase my foreign cinema consumption. Thanks for world cinema . yeah!
It will fail because they broke the Skywalker name and Luke
I pray🙏 that the Star Wars Rey movie is made and it bankrupts Lucas Film and Disney.
Because all three of her movies are trash. Lol. That's why.
A Rey movie will fail like all the other Disney woke movies. Rey is not a even likeable character. And no one os asking for such a movie. Disney must really really love to lose money just to push the message.
Duh
Because she lacks any charisma?