@bigfootgoesboom I watched probably 60 videos about it before I decided to go with it. I was definitely taking a risk with not a lot of videos out on this specific gun, but MAN, I am impressed. Light recoil, light gun, hard hitting, flat shooting fine piece of badassery. If you ever get the chance to shoot one prior to purchase, definitely take it. If you decide to go for it, I can confidently say that this caliber is sick! Definitely go with a more reputable maker for the gun/ barrel to get the best performance, but other than that, you should be solid!
I’ve been shooting my 12” 6.5 Grendel for 7 years now out to 800, 900, and even 1000yds. Not much difference between it and my 16”, 17.6”, or 18” Grendels from shooter perspective. There are 127 active factory ammo SKUs for 6.5 Grendel as well, with 3 new ones from AAC being the most recent drops. 100gr ELD-VT from Hornady behaves like 6mm ARC 103gr ELD-X and 108gr ELD-M. My real world data match the Hornady doppler radar data for 6mm ARC. With Grendel, you can shoot 80-160gr, with 123gr being the most common. 123gr hits the steel really hard and you can self-spot easily. Great for hunting too.
I got to shoot this at my 2 gun event last month. Noveske was out there with some set ups and the 12.5 is really something. Feels like shooting a very soft AR10… I wish I ran more than 2 mags. Thanks for the content sir.
How has your 18" been for you? I'm curious how the extra few inches does out to distance vs the 12.5. I love the short barrel stuff which is why I went with it but I know the stats are pretty solid on the longer barrel lengths.
@@JuiceyMedia1if you were impressed with the 12.5" then the 18" will blow your mind. It's almost like Noveske included a cheat code with they're 18" 6ARC barrel. My buddy and are planning on going to Utah to do the milk jug challenge. We have been practicing out to 1200 yard's using a steel IPSC target at his grandparents place and we are hitting it 6 out of 10 times. We have started reloading for the 6ARC and my barrel likes the Barnes TTSX 105's and my buddy's likes the 108's. With your Noveske lower send it back because I have had problems with some of Noveske's parts and I have been buying Noveske parts for 15 or more years. Noveske's QC here lately has gone down and I hate that. Great video keep'em coming.
@@brazzy1467 WOW! Thats nuts man, good luck out there on the challenge! What a killer setup with the 12.5 and the 18 🤙🏻 I may eventually get into reloading but for now I'm pretty happy with the accuracy of the box stuff. I talked to them yesterday and figured out an easy fix so i'll try that and then if I mess it up they said they'll happily take care of it for me. Thank you for all the insight man! And I appreciate it, I plan to!
@Wade-1 Without a doubt, I do think the military adopted it in some sort of fashion recently but don't quote me on that. Is the Max the one that's intended for bolt guns? I believe I've heard about that as well.
6max is 3100 FPS 55 grain out of a 10.5 barrel using same exact boltface as 5.56 guns at SAAMI pressures. Downside is the cartridge tops out at about 105 grain projectile. Upside is same capacity as 5.56 steel magazines, unlike 6ARC CHONKS
@xciteful Thank you! Haha yea I'm still getting used to the geissele triggers, I've let off a couple of unintentional 3rd bursts because I was too close to the reset and not bracing enough so I play it safe and exaggerate it a lot to compensate.
Great gun Sir but you should check out the 6mm MAX. Its the new hottens if you're a 6mm fan. The stats are pretty amazing and it uses the 350 legand as a parent case and there are a lot of advantages.
Bro I just came across this on my suggested and I was like wait…. I know this guy. I seen you around but met you at Beer Garden in Erie a few summers ago. Awesome video brotha! Good shit!
I'm looking forward to trying to stretch it out to distance and see what it can do! I gotta get an optic like that first though lol I don't do too much long range stuff but damn it is kinda fun!
I don't get the curved mag thing... I've been shooting 6.5 Grendel for more than a decade and a half and I run standard C-Products mags that look just like AR Mags and I've never had a single feed issue.
@@DB.KOOPER I’m not sure to be honest! I know there are other options out there like straight mags and less curved. My only guess is so when you’re in the prone it doesn’t bump anything. But I could be way off.
@lambrosstamos4494 Yea, I want to stretch it out to distance for sure. I just don't have the distance on my property, so I'd be taking it to a range. But I use Duramag and haven't had any issues! I've heard Geissele works good as well.
@alexanderschooler579 yea ive seen those ones they look killer I actually just bought the CAT JL for it. I realize it's not intended for 6 arc but I wanted to get one that can go on multiple guns so I'm excited to try it out. Thank you for the suggestions! 🙏🏻🤙🏻
that's all Noveske they are tight as fuck, pretty sure you have a Gen 3 or 4 and there should be a tension screw in the lower. Im building a similar set up as we speak with Centurion arms 12.5 and Noveske Bolt, how are you liking the bolt? Also I know they are pricy but highly recommend the Geissele 6 arc mags try to get them on sale cause they are extremely pricy
@jbcustom3745 So I could be wrong, but the tension screw on the bottom only puts tension on the fitment between the upper and lower when they're installed together. The pins I believe are sticky because the holes in the lower are just slightly off, or there's something that's every so slightly out of spec. That could be my mistake, but I am familiar with what you're talking about. The bolt and everything has worked great so far! I did try to run the centurion sandcutter bolt carrier in this thing, being it's an AR chassis. They're supposed to be compatible. But the fitment was pretty tight, and it made it kind of stiff to operate the charging handle and BCG. It could just be that it's a brand new gun, and the tolerances are super tight. I'm definitely going to try out the geissele mags soon.
@@JuiceyMedia1 im running a standard phosphate carrier with the JP enhanced bolt in my 18 inch 6 ARC. Its stiff like your talking about but still ran tho on H buffer. The 12.5 I'm working on now I went with a Geissele reliability enhanced carrier with the Noveske DLC 6ARC bolt. its way less stiff when cycling the action with the nano weapon carrier with the DLC bolt. its pretty slick.
Did you get the Centurion Arms barrel optimized for 100% suppressed use? I'm not sure if you have heard of it, but I hear it's available if you call. My friend who is a small time gun influencer who uses a lot of centurion arms parts in his builds told me about it but at the time I didn't want to wait a few more months and went with the Beer City Bullets 12.5 and it's awesome. It's better than the noveske barrel I had. The SBR was not available at the time and I'm sure the problems I had aren't with the factory SBR. I had slight feeding and extracting issues and it went away when I changed to the BCB barrel and was more accurate as well. To be fair I used Hornady Black ammo with the noveske barrel and I had heard to go with the 108gr match ammo (just like this video says as well) and it was a significant difference to me. The only similarities is the same filthy Hornady powder seems to get everywhere
@@jbcustom3745 I emailed them and there used to be a smaller gas port version, but it is no longer available. The one on the site is the one that's better for suppressed use as most 12.5 people run a suppressor most of the time and because we all know how dirty the round is
That’s funny you say you like your dog. I work in the industry and literally put a sign on my storm door today after picking up let’s say more than 2 from my employer. “I work for *****************, please DONT shoot my dogs ATF” with my business cards also taped to the letter on the front door.
@@trigga561 Hit me up on IG if you really want it! I still intend to talk to Noveske and get it fixed if they determine it needs to be. Then I'll gladly sell it 🙏🏻🤙🏻
FYI-we wanna see you shoot it dude!! Haha 😂 not clips of long range ONLY Lol 😂 come on man!! You could have atleast put a mag through it at the end from 20 yards or less, let us see that it’s not just a “long range” toy. Just an idea 🤷♂️👍
@joshmajor8662 Oh for sure! I'm gonna burn it down with this thing I just didn't have the gun fully setup on it so I wanted to give my initial impressions with it. I got it all setup now for the most part so I planned on shooting it this weekend a lot more.
@0Asterite0 Is 10rds the typical grouping size for determining a firearms capability for grouping? I've only ever seen 3-5 which is why I was happy with 4rds given that I was using an EOTech and a Magnifier. I'll happily put it on paper again with a higher round count once I get a more ideal optic setup.
@0Asterite0 The link isn't working. And that's a fair point of view. I'll do a 10rd group with a better optic at some point because I'm also curious. Given all the factors, out of the box, shooting all day, no cleaning, EOTech and Mag, 12.5 barrel. I do think that's a pretty damn impressive group. None of the other firearms I own currently could do that. I am definitely not a precision long range shooter though. So I don't have as much experience as you with groupings and their variances. But still, I am impressed with this little thing.
@@CalBosard Got it! This is the first caliber ive dealt with thats got better performance at long range than 5.56 so I'm not familiar with all those standards yet. And this being an SBR I was treating it like I do all of my other SBRs shooting at 100yds and doing the smaller groups. I will have to do some testing with a better optic and higher round count for sure!
As an upgrade 6mm max is more interesting for sure. As a new gun buy 6 arc is better as it has more ammo availability and longer range capability. 6 max would be a killer military round though, imagine making every m4 into a 1000 yard rifle just a barrel swap
Hey Ericka so check out the Sun and Shadow video detailing why 6max is a much better option.. 6ARC is trying to be a long range cartridge in a ‘micro’ package and anyone with a brain knows that’s only useful for PRS/competition purposes. If you’re actually into hunting or combat/SHTF then why not go with the way more reliable and equally as powerful 6max.. your welcome have a good day
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I swear every video I watch changes my opinion on whether or not 6 arc is worth it
@bigfootgoesboom I watched probably 60 videos about it before I decided to go with it. I was definitely taking a risk with not a lot of videos out on this specific gun, but MAN, I am impressed. Light recoil, light gun, hard hitting, flat shooting fine piece of badassery. If you ever get the chance to shoot one prior to purchase, definitely take it. If you decide to go for it, I can confidently say that this caliber is sick! Definitely go with a more reputable maker for the gun/ barrel to get the best performance, but other than that, you should be solid!
@@JuiceyMedia1can this gun take the new giselle 6mm arc mags they are more straight then the noveske ones ?
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@lobo-uh2tb In theory, it should work just fine because it's an AR chassis, but I haven't yet confirmed if they work in it.
I’ve been shooting my 12” 6.5 Grendel for 7 years now out to 800, 900, and even 1000yds. Not much difference between it and my 16”, 17.6”, or 18” Grendels from shooter perspective. There are 127 active factory ammo SKUs for 6.5 Grendel as well, with 3 new ones from AAC being the most recent drops. 100gr ELD-VT from Hornady behaves like 6mm ARC 103gr ELD-X and 108gr ELD-M. My real world data match the Hornady doppler radar data for 6mm ARC. With Grendel, you can shoot 80-160gr, with 123gr being the most common. 123gr hits the steel really hard and you can self-spot easily. Great for hunting too.
All of my Noveskes shoot really well. I don't have 6 ARC but I'm glad to see that this is along the same lines as mine.
This was my first Noveske and maaaan I'm impressed! I'll be buying more for sure!
I got to shoot this at my 2 gun event last month. Noveske was out there with some set ups and the 12.5 is really something. Feels like shooting a very soft AR10… I wish I ran more than 2 mags. Thanks for the content sir.
@nicholasdangelo8174 That's the perfect way to put it! I'm still amazed by this things performance! And of course! 🙏🏻🤙🏻
Love my 6 ARC N4 12.5. Zero regrets. Great vid, dude.
@skippy_handelman Thank you! Glad I'm not the only one! 🙏🏻🔥
I have the 18" Noveske 6 ARC and just got a 12.5" Noveske 6ARC and plan on deer hunting with the 12.5" this year.
How has your 18" been for you? I'm curious how the extra few inches does out to distance vs the 12.5. I love the short barrel stuff which is why I went with it but I know the stats are pretty solid on the longer barrel lengths.
@@JuiceyMedia1if you were impressed with the 12.5" then the 18" will blow your mind. It's almost like Noveske included a cheat code with they're 18" 6ARC barrel. My buddy and are planning on going to Utah to do the milk jug challenge. We have been practicing out to 1200 yard's using a steel IPSC target at his grandparents place and we are hitting it 6 out of 10 times. We have started reloading for the 6ARC and my barrel likes the Barnes TTSX 105's and my buddy's likes the 108's. With your Noveske lower send it back because I have had problems with some of Noveske's parts and I have been buying Noveske parts for 15 or more years. Noveske's QC here lately has gone down and I hate that. Great video keep'em coming.
@@brazzy1467 WOW! Thats nuts man, good luck out there on the challenge! What a killer setup with the 12.5 and the 18 🤙🏻 I may eventually get into reloading but for now I'm pretty happy with the accuracy of the box stuff. I talked to them yesterday and figured out an easy fix so i'll try that and then if I mess it up they said they'll happily take care of it for me. Thank you for all the insight man! And I appreciate it, I plan to!
Excellent video
@@jerrymandarren Thank you! 🙏🏻
We need more! Excellent content!!
Interesting cartridge for places like Afganistan, Ukraine and other open places. Also super interested in the new 6mm Max.
@Wade-1 Without a doubt, I do think the military adopted it in some sort of fashion recently but don't quote me on that. Is the Max the one that's intended for bolt guns? I believe I've heard about that as well.
@@JuiceyMedia1in reverse. 6 arc is a bolt gun round, 6 max is a 223 on steroids.
@tedarcher9120 Ahhhh I got it yea I these comments are my first time hearing about it. I definitely want to take a look at it more!
@@JuiceyMedia1it's definitely worth looking into, but sadly it's still a wildcat for now
6max is 3100 FPS 55 grain out of a 10.5 barrel using same exact boltface as 5.56 guns at SAAMI pressures.
Downside is the cartridge tops out at about 105 grain projectile. Upside is same capacity as 5.56 steel magazines, unlike 6ARC CHONKS
Good job on describing your kit. Keep it up. The range safety officer in me would only say, let your trigger finger find the reset ;) Wonderful vid.
@xciteful Thank you! Haha yea I'm still getting used to the geissele triggers, I've let off a couple of unintentional 3rd bursts because I was too close to the reset and not bracing enough so I play it safe and exaggerate it a lot to compensate.
i kinda want a 6arc. i feel like its the future of the AR. if done correctly. being able to throw lead a thousand yards with a 12.5 barrel is crazy
Great gun Sir but you should check out the 6mm MAX. Its the new hottens if you're a 6mm fan. The stats are pretty amazing and it uses the 350 legand as a parent case and there are a lot of advantages.
@@reconrc1787 A few people mentioned it in the comments before, I'm definitely going to check it out! Thank you for the recommendation!
Bro I just came across this on my suggested and I was like wait…. I know this guy. I seen you around but met you at Beer Garden in Erie a few summers ago. Awesome video brotha! Good shit!
You should see if your ls5 has a big enough bore for the 6mm arc.. if it does I bet that would sound great!
6ARC is cool but I'm holding out to see if anyone decides to make 6MAX more common
Sweet pick up.
@dragonusmc0311 Thank you! I thought so too! 🙏🏻🤙🏻
Throw a 3-18 or 4-16 on it youll be amazed how well it can perform past 600
I'm looking forward to trying to stretch it out to distance and see what it can do! I gotta get an optic like that first though lol I don't do too much long range stuff but damn it is kinda fun!
maybe other side of lower pin holes not finished being drilled out. not normal but theyll fix it. looks like i gotta get a 6arc now lol
👍 Enjoyed the video. Like some others I lean toward the 6Max
Noveske is my fav
Hey Tyler love your videos man! Can you film some 6 arc through the JL for us and report on how it performs? Would love to see that! Thanks dude!
Great intro but, your couch gave you away sir...
I don't get the curved mag thing... I've been shooting 6.5 Grendel for more than a decade and a half and I run standard C-Products mags that look just like AR Mags and I've never had a single feed issue.
@@DB.KOOPER I’m not sure to be honest! I know there are other options out there like straight mags and less curved. My only guess is so when you’re in the prone it doesn’t bump anything. But I could be way off.
Barrel length has nothing really to do with accuracy with reasonable barrel lengths 8"-24".. velocity yes but accuracy no.
^ he's right, you know
Can you do a video about the short barrel 6mm arc vs other cartridges like 7.62x51 and 5.56x45?
I would certainly want to know how far you can reach. Maybe, up to 800. Plus, which magazines are reliable? Dynamag? Geissele?
@lambrosstamos4494 Yea, I want to stretch it out to distance for sure. I just don't have the distance on my property, so I'd be taking it to a range. But I use Duramag and haven't had any issues! I've heard Geissele works good as well.
U have a knights and Noveske I’m jealous lol
You can see his MOA (headshots) at 140 yards was about 4”
@keenanschouten2582 Yes, as I mentioned, this was more rapid fire, not trying to be super steady accurate.
Have that rifle, it's a lazer. I have the hat you're wearing that they included too.
@timbotrout Ayyy! That's awesome, glad other people enjoy it as well. Are you running a dedicated 6mm can on it? I'm considering a few options.
@@JuiceyMedia1 Got an LPM torch in jail for it
@@JuiceyMedia1 Check out the CAT Noah, the huxwrx 6arc can, and CGS sci six
@alexanderschooler579 yea ive seen those ones they look killer I actually just bought the CAT JL for it. I realize it's not intended for 6 arc but I wanted to get one that can go on multiple guns so I'm excited to try it out. Thank you for the suggestions! 🙏🏻🤙🏻
@@JuiceyMedia1 There's a minimum barrel length of 16" for that can . . .
At the lease the front pin is not installed correctly from the video… the slot in the pin should be facing towards the back of the receiver.
7:45 in the video
that's all Noveske they are tight as fuck, pretty sure you have a Gen 3 or 4 and there should be a tension screw in the lower. Im building a similar set up as we speak with Centurion arms 12.5 and Noveske Bolt, how are you liking the bolt? Also I know they are pricy but highly recommend the Geissele 6 arc mags try to get them on sale cause they are extremely pricy
@jbcustom3745 So I could be wrong, but the tension screw on the bottom only puts tension on the fitment between the upper and lower when they're installed together. The pins I believe are sticky because the holes in the lower are just slightly off, or there's something that's every so slightly out of spec. That could be my mistake, but I am familiar with what you're talking about. The bolt and everything has worked great so far! I did try to run the centurion sandcutter bolt carrier in this thing, being it's an AR chassis. They're supposed to be compatible. But the fitment was pretty tight, and it made it kind of stiff to operate the charging handle and BCG. It could just be that it's a brand new gun, and the tolerances are super tight. I'm definitely going to try out the geissele mags soon.
@@JuiceyMedia1 im running a standard phosphate carrier with the JP enhanced bolt in my 18 inch 6 ARC. Its stiff like your talking about but still ran tho on H buffer. The 12.5 I'm working on now I went with a Geissele reliability enhanced carrier with the Noveske DLC 6ARC bolt. its way less stiff when cycling the action with the nano weapon carrier with the DLC bolt. its pretty slick.
Did you get the Centurion Arms barrel optimized for 100% suppressed use? I'm not sure if you have heard of it, but I hear it's available if you call. My friend who is a small time gun influencer who uses a lot of centurion arms parts in his builds told me about it but at the time I didn't want to wait a few more months and went with the Beer City Bullets 12.5 and it's awesome. It's better than the noveske barrel I had. The SBR was not available at the time and I'm sure the problems I had aren't with the factory SBR. I had slight feeding and extracting issues and it went away when I changed to the BCB barrel and was more accurate as well. To be fair I used Hornady Black ammo with the noveske barrel and I had heard to go with the 108gr match ammo (just like this video says as well) and it was a significant difference to me. The only similarities is the same filthy Hornady powder seems to get everywhere
@@Vegas3RSPilot ive never heard of that I have a 12.5 SPR profile stainless barrel its a Heavy bitch
@@jbcustom3745 I emailed them and there used to be a smaller gas port version, but it is no longer available. The one on the site is the one that's better for suppressed use as most 12.5 people run a suppressor most of the time and because we all know how dirty the round is
I wanna get one now
Wait until the 6 max develops a bit more. Slightly different mission but super interesting like the 6 arc
Did you go through ATF to put the stock on your rifle ? If so, which form and how ? 😅
That’s funny you say you like your dog.
I work in the industry and literally put a sign on my storm door today after picking up let’s say more than 2 from my employer.
“I work for *****************, please DONT shoot my dogs ATF” with my business cards also taped to the letter on the front door.
@@peterreily1490 😂😂😂
Curoius how thia coompares to .227 fury
the radian is your favorite ambi lower...?
Noveske Barrels Be Like That Sometimes
What else is "slightly curved" other than the mags?? 😂
Ill buy the lower.
@@trigga561 Hit me up on IG if you really want it! I still intend to talk to Noveske and get it fixed if they determine it needs to be. Then I'll gladly sell it 🙏🏻🤙🏻
Shorter the barrel the more inherent accuracy
Update video?
K19 plate carrier?
@@revolutionanarchy713 Yessir!
@@JuiceyMedia1 nice! I’m considering getting one
@revolutionanarchy713 I love mine! It's pretty straight forward to use and work on, and it's super comfortable.
@@JuiceyMedia1 awesome
Get some G mags
@@jessewrigley5664 I need to for sure
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FYI-we wanna see you shoot it dude!! Haha 😂 not clips of long range ONLY Lol 😂 come on man!! You could have atleast put a mag through it at the end from 20 yards or less, let us see that it’s not just a “long range” toy. Just an idea 🤷♂️👍
@joshmajor8662 Oh for sure! I'm gonna burn it down with this thing I just didn't have the gun fully setup on it so I wanted to give my initial impressions with it. I got it all setup now for the most part so I planned on shooting it this weekend a lot more.
shoot a 10rd group. with your standards i can get sub moa on my svd lol
@0Asterite0 Is 10rds the typical grouping size for determining a firearms capability for grouping? I've only ever seen 3-5 which is why I was happy with 4rds given that I was using an EOTech and a Magnifier. I'll happily put it on paper again with a higher round count once I get a more ideal optic setup.
@@JuiceyMedia1 /watch?v=QwumAGRmz2I?t=1865 3-5 isn't statistically relevant to me with so much variation you can have between strings.
@0Asterite0 The link isn't working. And that's a fair point of view. I'll do a 10rd group with a better optic at some point because I'm also curious. Given all the factors, out of the box, shooting all day, no cleaning, EOTech and Mag, 12.5 barrel. I do think that's a pretty damn impressive group. None of the other firearms I own currently could do that. I am definitely not a precision long range shooter though. So I don't have as much experience as you with groupings and their variances. But still, I am impressed with this little thing.
@@JuiceyMedia110 rds usually the minimum standard group on anything thats not a lightweight hunting rifle
@@CalBosard Got it! This is the first caliber ive dealt with thats got better performance at long range than 5.56 so I'm not familiar with all those standards yet. And this being an SBR I was treating it like I do all of my other SBRs shooting at 100yds and doing the smaller groups. I will have to do some testing with a better optic and higher round count for sure!
6 MAX is a better fit for the AR15 especially already having 30 round mags
@lorcan2316 This comment and one other is the first time I've heard of 6 MAX! That's dope I'll have to do some research on it!
As an upgrade 6mm max is more interesting for sure. As a new gun buy 6 arc is better as it has more ammo availability and longer range capability. 6 max would be a killer military round though, imagine making every m4 into a 1000 yard rifle just a barrel swap
6max makes no sense. Check out the Texas predator hunter breakdown of the 6max and why its not a good idea.
Hey Ericka so check out the Sun and Shadow video detailing why 6max is a much better option.. 6ARC is trying to be a long range cartridge in a ‘micro’ package and anyone with a brain knows that’s only useful for PRS/competition purposes. If you’re actually into hunting or combat/SHTF then why not go with the way more reliable and equally as powerful 6max.. your welcome have a good day
@@lorcan2316 problem with 6 max is that it doesn't exist yet. 6 arc is produced in millions by Hornady