I mostly agree, although I would've put Rudy a lot higher personally. The build-up to him was done really well, and he actually is an active antagonist before the final battle, as he chases Sid for a bit around the middle of the movie, even if we still don't see him. I am admittedly a massive dinosaur fan, so the fact that he's a big scary dinosaur naturally makes me a bit biased towards him
I love villains who are hinted toward throughout the movie without actually showing up until around the end. It makes them more intimidating and threatening, seeing the real villain after only knowing about them through stories or vague artwork.
@@BigPenstroker or maybe he’s just saying that he likes how he acknowledges that opinions are not set in stone? Not everything on the internet is people trying to get one over on each other.
I agree that Captain Gutt is a great villain! He’s basically Soto done right by having more screen time, more interactions with the main characters, and a more fun and enjoyable personality. Also, Peter Dinklage is a godsend!
Thank you for putting Mandrake so high, he is what i remember the most about the "Epic" Movie. I loved that they make him a caring father instead of an abusive one, it really gives him a little more dimension to his character. I would have loved to see more of him in the movie.
bro same. him and ronin were the highlight and most memorable parts of the movie for me, though that may be also due to the fact that i crushed on both as a kid LMAO
You can be an intimidating villain without being an abusive parent or a heartless monster. Mandrake and Killian are perfect examples of villains who are evil, who don't get redeemed and aren't "misunderstood" but are still people, which makes them so much more interesting than any "they're just misunderstood" characters.
Thanks for ranking Nigel so high! He’s easily my number one favourite Blue Sky villain thanks to his intimidating design, wicked personality, and Jemaine Clement’s sensational vocal performance! “I will make you ugly… *TOO!”*
I completely agree with Killian being number 1. He’s the only Bluesky antagonist that managed to give me goosebumps. It may not be my favourite Bluesky film (hi Peanuts) but Spies in Disguise was a great movie (and a great swan song for the studio since it was sadly their last before the mouse bought them).
I've seen this thing for a while now, from Sanji's cigarette being turned into one thanks to 4Kidz in One Piece to Inspector Badd, from Ace Attorney Investigations, an established badass as his name implies, sucking on one the whole time.
I kinda like Big Boss as great obstacle rather than a villain, there two different things because he's the reason why I should care for birds because he is threatening symbol of destruction- not a villain. I rank him higher if list based on destruction rather than being a lovable villain- Robots and horton villains are too likable for me it feel like a nuanced anti-heros that wanted best for society.
Nigel definitely is a weird character when you really think about it with the facts the film takes place in Brazil sulphur crested cockatoos are Australian Nigel himself is portrayed as British and he is voiced by a New Zealander
I mean yeah, but i don't find it any weirder than the season of power rangers that were made when Disney had control over the property. For example, there's a character that's supposed to be american, but has a british accent and is played by a new zealand actor in power rangers mystic force( as a note the power rangers under Disney were filmed in New Zealand and also used New Zealand actors.)
19:19 - It also helps that Jim Broadbent, whom you may know him as characters with soft and sweet voices, provided the voice to the villainess. You can tell how much fun he's having in the role.
Peter Dinklage is quite an ironic casting choice seeing as Gutt is a gigantopithecus which were probably one of the largest species of great ape that ever lived and Peter Dinklage himself is really short
Really, really pleased to see Cretaceous and Maelstrom so high on this list! I've always loved those two for their sick designs, genuine creepiness, and the real threat they pose to the protagonists. Despite their short screen time and lack of dialogue, they absolutely made a lasting impression on me. I LOVE everything you said about them serving as physical manifestations of Manny's fears - he worries about being the last of his kind while they really ARE the last of their kinds - and being almost like ghosts from a previous age, returned to haunt the species that have usurped them. I have no idea if the screenwriters actually intended all that symbolism/parallelism to be there, but idec, it's so good. I unironically love them and it makes me smile to see that others do too!
24:34 I ADORE this scene. If the whole movie had focused on this conflict between Manny and Gutt, instead of juggling so many plot lines; I’d have zero problem calling this my favorite Ice Age sequel. And yeah, I adore Madam Gasket, she’s pure evil and she owns it from her first appearance to her demise. I hope Disney doesn’t give Robots a sequel, not only because of the downgrade Adventures of Buck Wild suffered; but also because there I don’t think there’s any way they’re topping her
I will never forgive BlueSky for not doing more with Mandrake and the Boggans. They were always so much more intriguing and interesting to me than "the good guys" when I first watched the film as a kid.
I never interpret that scene as Sour Kangaroo actually considering sacrificing her son. When we see Vlad making that suggestion, we see her having a worry expression. To me, that line was just her planning on how to manipulate Vlad without having to sacrifice her own son.
I am so glad Killian got so high on the list, since I adore how much the movie handled the theme of violent justice, and how flawed it is when it spawns people like Killian who has all the motivation to avenge both himself, as well as his people
the fun part of the red baron is that they actually existed, he isnt just a random pilot made for snoopy’s story, hes Manfred von Richthofen, an ace-of-aces
I'm really happy/grateful you ranked Mandrake as high as you did on this list. So many people don't even remember that Epic even exists but I've always loved how he was a villain who genuinely cared for his son and people. I do agree it would've been great if the film used him more but with the pacing and how we were already learning about the leaf men's cultures as well, I can't see how they could do that without just going into full on out of place exposition dumping. We did still get the idea that he's had a long rivalry with Ronan and even the hint that he was the one who killed Nod's dad, so there is still plenty of depth there.
It’s honestly kind of frightening how much the Sour Kangaroo serves as a pretty good cautionary tale against those with very strict ideals of what is and what isn’t, and instead of accepting the reality that our understanding of the world is constantly changing, clings vicariously to their old understanding of things and goes on the war path to demonize any and all who don’t stick to their exact beliefs. It’s a message that unfortunately is very relevant these days and can apply to all sorts of contemporary issues.
Honestly thinking about the Dinobrids from Collison Course, they feeld like they belong in a Land Before Time sequel which even AniMat points it out in his Top 10 Worst Ice Age Characters video.
In my personal opinion I believe that Gasket has the most brutal death due to how while Soto was impaled she was melted down, seemingly slowly enough where everything else melts first and whatever part gives them sentience melts last due to extra protection
Any chance you may do a ranking of villains from Nickelodeon movies? There's quite a number of them, and they vary in how great or lacking they are. I haven't watched many Blue Sky films, but the best ones I've seen would be 'The Peanuts Movie', 'Robots', and 'Ice Age 1 & 3'.
I think you forgot to mention the personal rivalry between Mandrake and Ronin, during battle where his son Dagda was killed by Ronin,Mandrake managed to kill the queen of the forest someone Ronin was very close to
Seeing the entry on Sour Kangaroo had me wonder if she would be a Karen. Yeah probably. I could see her being one or at least she emits Karen energy if that makes sense.
She’s basically a racist white mom who tries to stop her kid any time he starts realizing the different people aren’t so bad (at least until the end where she finally gets better). Yeah she’s definitely Karen material
Cretaceous and Melstrom I had actually forgotten about since it's been so long since I've seen Ice Age 2, but all of their scenes, especially their first one always scared me as a kid!
These villains sure seemed like a rough ranking, and it seems even some of the lesser Blue Sky Studios movies (mainly Ferdinand and Ice Age 4) have great antagonists.
10:20 I have always been convinced she was acting or thinking a way to act. Keeping it cool. She never would consider to trade her boy in exchange for an 'imaginary' flower.
I would’ve put the Red Baron near the top, personally. I know he has no bearing on the A plot and is a figment of Snoopy’s imagination, but in the context of that story he’s an incredibly mysterious and unique villain. Honestly pretty badass.
Epic is a movie that even ten years after it's released and after I watched it, I still love it and I can't explain fully why. Maybe it's the fantasy aspect, maybe it's the fact that now I know how much historical evidence there is in the fighting techniques of the Leafmen, I don't know, but I love it nonetheless
Honestly, Rudy's #1 for me. He's truly terrifying. He's over 120ft fall, has human iq and is just overall intimidating. Especially in the canopy scene.
13:58 somthing I always loved About ratchets Speech as a kid is that it could be used in reverse. Why be you? when you can be new! Why be new? when you can be you?
It’s the Ice Age villains that usually catch my attention. Especially since they used overlooked prehistoric animals that weren’t often shown in films or tv shows, like Cretaceous and Maelstrom being a Metriorhynchus and some kind of Pliosaur, orMosasaur, Rudy being a Baryonyx and Captain Gutt being a Gigantopithecus.
8:36 I personally think Madame Gasket’s death might have been more gruesome than Soto’s. Also, 17:07 It’s not really animal rights so much as it is a PSA on bull fighting; animal rights activists want people and animals to have *literally nothing* to do with each other, *including* pets and seeing eye dogs.
This video was full of surprises. I have a question about Killian. Are we supposed to sympathize with him? because they said he was a terrorist even before he met Lance and Walter. So he made his life choice and kinda got what he deserved. I only took walter's side because Lance needs Killian alive so he could prove that he was framed. Also since you made a darkest illumation moments video, does this mean you're gonna do a darkest blue sky moments video?
No you aren’t supposed to sympathize with Killian but you can understand what he is saying: Lance and his agency say that they protect people yet they use violent methods with could also kill innocent people along with the villains and Lance killing his men doesn’t make Lance and his agency any better than Killian
I am certainly happy to see feathered raptors slooowwwwllly becoming normalized in dino media...but so far the feathers have been "misused"..ie, these raptors flying and the "ice raptor" in Jurassic Dominion swimming under frozen water like a damn leopard seal...
I think you have a point with how Mandrake is portrayed. It's clever. Of course, I don't appreciate you throwing Hexxus from Ferngully under the bus like that. Hexxus is a rather imposing and captivating villain in his own right. If you have the time, it would be nice to see you cover such an underrated gem and it's Tim Curry masterpiece of a villain. Anyway, love your rankings and videos! Keep it up! (Sorry for the rough opinion. Hexxus is my all time favorite villain, and to see him boiled down as simplistic felt like a personal injustice. I still respect your opinion, though.)
I would have kicked and screamed if Gutt wasn't at least Top 5. Peter Dinklage absolutely steals the show every time he pops up; and Gutt is the one redeeming quality about Continental Drift.
2:41 I think the lollipop was supposed to substitute a cigarette seeing as a lot of these types of people are always seen with a cigarette in their mouth
I enjoy blue sky films, but this really highlights how lacklustre their villains have been. A bit of a shame, since they’ve had so many. Killian looks great though, I’ll have to watch that film.
Horton hears a who (the blue sky’s one ) genuinely is my nostalgic movie I got it for a Christmas present from my grandparents when I was like 7 or 8 and I watched it constantly
0:22 - Gavin, Gerty and Roger (Ice Age 5: Collision Course) 2:09 - Big Boss (Rio 2) 3:19 - Marcel (Rio) 4:43 - The Red Baron (The Peanuts Movie) 6:07 - Rudy (Ice Age 3: Dawn of the Dinosaurs) 7:06 - Soto (Ice Age) 9:00 - Sour Kangaroo (Horton Hears a Who!) 12:02 - Vlad (Horton Hears a Who!) 13:38 - Phineas P. Ratchet (Robots) 15:31 - El Primero (Fernand) 17:12 - Madame Gasket (Robots) 19:20 - Mandrake (Epic) 21:27 - Cretaceous and Melstrom (Ice Age 2: The Meltdown) 23:03 - Captain Gutt (Ice Age 4: Continetial Drift) 25:13 - Nigel (Rio) 27:03 - Killian (Spies in Disguise)
Sour Kangaroo is someone I really hate because she was not a good mother and wants everything her way, but she learns her lesson. Soto is a great villain bent on revenge and is willing to kill anyone who stand in his way or betray him.
To be fair about sour kangaroo. I will add that i dont think she was necessarily considering giving her son. Sure the joke about her thinking about it is there. But it could be argued she was also thinking up her manipulation tactic to get vlad to do it without giving up her kid. The change of heart bit is more to line up with the book. They could have fleshed out its progression better but it works for what it is i think. Outside that shes pretty great as an antagonist
I think I’m not AS scared of Ratchet as I am the other villains… Because he just doesn’t give off an intimidating vibe. He gives off the annoying business man vibe.. His MOM ON THE OTHER HAND. Tbh she’s intimidating af.. And the CHOP SHOP doesn’t fix it for me. I remember being scared of that place in the movie as a kid. Not much any more but holy shit a whole place that kills off old robots ..
Madame Gasket and Rachet are both placed FAR higher for me. I see the parallels of outmodes with those like me, on so called "disability benefits" and what will happen if and when that gets purposefully taken away by a government based on monetary gain. Robots is a story about being yourself, even if you can fall apart on the daily, like Fender. A story about Community Over Money. "Whether a bot is made of old parts, new parts, or spare parts. You can shine no matter what you're made of."
BIG BOSS?!? Nah that’s a number one spot he’s a war criminal and has a sad backstory killing the boss as such. He was truly villainous is metal gear solid 5 tho.
Epic made me understand why its okay to kill bugs out of my tree this year. To help save it. Hundreds of earwigs and bugs were eating it from the inside. Nature is in a cycle of constant growth and rot.
My problem with Epic is that it doesn't feel like an environmental film. It falls back on the "cute/pretty animals = good and ugly animals = bad" cliches, while painting a good chunk of nature AS the villains. While it may not be as infuriating as, say, HUMANS = good/EVERYTHING ELSE = Bad, which is a cliche that's become more and more prevailent in media, it's still annoying.
I do find it strange though that the movie is that in Brazil sulphur crested cockatoos are Australian Nigel himself is portrayed as British and he is voiced by a New Zealander
9:20 Soooooo… Sour Kangaroo is a Karen before Karens, Interesting, Horton hears a Who is a Movie I saw *_YEARS_* Ago, and I thought I just Imagined it because I didn’t see or hear anything about it afterwards… 15:15 Behind all of Rachets evil corporate greed {Which is something I hate} He is just a whiney little Mamas Boy… 17:23 I also love Madame Gaskets character design, she is the Mama of the Mamas Boy, and she is the Demented Robot behind the _Chop Shop_ and the Machines that take Robots from the quiet streets at night… With that song “Underground” {By: Tom Waits} Playing for the Introduction of the _Chop Shop_ Making quite the vibe~^^
When you think about the size of a mammoth rudi would be about as tall as those double decker buses so he definitely is one of if not the biggest one on the list.
Vlad lives in my head rent-free. He's stuck in my mind. I can't stop thinking about him. 🙃🫠🫠 Okay, in all seriousness, though, Vlad Vladikoff may not be the smartest bird of prey around, and he may be considered the secondary antagonist of Horton Hears a Who, but BOY did Vlad leave a big impression on me! He is just VERY eccentric and surprisingly goofy as hell despite trying so hard to make himself look like a mysterious frightening creature in the Jungle of Nool, and MY GOSH, I ABSOLUTELY LOVE him for it! I really appreciate you for putting him in the top 10! He is my favorite character in Horton Hears a Who! and my all-time favorite Blue Sky Studios character as a whole! 🤭🤭🤭🖤🦅 I do wish he was higher in this list, though. Vlad may not be the smartest, as I mentioned before, but he sure as hell is an entertaining secondary villain to watch on-screen.
Robots was 1 step away from giving me nightmares after watching it. I literally thought, "huh they are kind of creepy, like all of them". Also after watching it I was like *"Wow. I don't remember ANY OF THE PLOT".*
I think the redemption arc should've gone to Vlad as Rudy is sold off to him he may find himself with a change of heart after realizing how Rudy has been silenced by his mother for so long. Adding even more depth to Vlad as a character too; at first, it's all about killing the clover then it transforms into protecting the clover because of what Rudy sees it represent. Vlad literally taking Rudy “under his wing”.
That's actually a pretty good way to flesh out Vlad as a character. ...And I do understand Jane's redemption was meant to stay true to the original book, but it would have been nice to see her and Vlad's redemptions be fleshed out to help the movie stand out from the original book the movie was based on.
another thing to note about Gasket: she is the owner of a factory that captures people, and puts them on a track, where they are brutally ripped to shreds to be turned into the UPGRADES of other robots
I wish they could've had the dino villains have a decent plan but one that would halt the main characters. The main characters are just doing whatever they can to survive, but the dino birds are trying to think on how they could profit from this. For example, they try to halt their progress in stopping the asteroid so they can stop it first and become respected and get all the food they want. They want to steal their plan, then kidnap them and keep them from enacting it. Something like that. Then, by the end, they still realize the plan wouldn't work with just the 3, and instead of obsessing over glory they actually snap out of it and realize they need help, or that teamwork makes the dreamwork is another way to put it.
Admittedly, I’m a sucker for pirates, sea shanties, and characters who are very suave, so I think Captain Gutt is my favorite villain in the roster. However, I agree with your list mostly, aside from Nigel, would probably swap him and Gutt. Otherwise, great video
I was so happy when you put Killian at number one some peoples reviews on spies in disguise say Killain is the generic leader of a group of bad guys trying to avenging his people but I see it otherwise Killain is a somewhat sympathetic (note: I’m not saying we should sympathize with terrorists) and a respectable Villain. Unlike most leaders he didn’t see his men as replaceable he cared about them enough to avenge their deaths despite who they were and I also wish they should us how the Krgyzstan attack happened since he said Lance took everything from him so I don’t know if that means one of his men was a relative or if someone he deeply cared about was also killed
El Primero is in my opinion one of the more respectable villains since there are other villains that would still try to kill the heroes or complain even though the conflict has been resolved like Zera form loin king 2
My top 16 Blue sky villains from worst to best 16 Big boss 15 The dino birds 14 mandrake 13 El Primero 12 The red baron 11 Marcel 10 Vlad 9 sour kangaroo 8 Rudy 7 Madame gasket 6 Sea monsters 5 soto 4 Captain gut 3 Nigel 2 Killian 1 Phineas T ratchet
It's also strange that the sour kangaroo who was given the name Jane kangaroo in the original Horton Hears a Who animated short is not voiced with an Australian accent as I feel like it's a mandate for Kangaroos to have an Australian accent seeing as they are Australian
I mostly agree, although I would've put Rudy a lot higher personally. The build-up to him was done really well, and he actually is an active antagonist before the final battle, as he chases Sid for a bit around the middle of the movie, even if we still don't see him. I am admittedly a massive dinosaur fan, so the fact that he's a big scary dinosaur naturally makes me a bit biased towards him
I'm also a huge dinosaur nerd and fan so I agree with you 100%
God i loved rudy when i was younger
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He's the best character cuz he doesn't talk
I love villains who are hinted toward throughout the movie without actually showing up until around the end. It makes them more intimidating and threatening, seeing the real villain after only knowing about them through stories or vague artwork.
I like how you acknowledge how opinions aren’t always set in stone.
Me too
Backhanded way to say he's wrong but okay
@@BigPenstroker or maybe he’s just saying that he likes how he acknowledges that opinions are not set in stone?
Not everything on the internet is people trying to get one over on each other.
I agree that Captain Gutt is a great villain! He’s basically Soto done right by having more screen time, more interactions with the main characters, and a more fun and enjoyable personality. Also, Peter Dinklage is a godsend!
In my opinion the worst thing about him is that god damn song that happens and it gets stuck in my head for days
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@@N-GinAndTonicTM WELL I DONT WANNA GLOAT BUT I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE THAT YOUR IN LUCK
YOUVE BEEN SAVED BY THE APE THAT RULES THESE WATERS
SO FORGET ABOUT YOUR WIVES AND DAUGHTERS
He was the only good thing about that movie. A true saving grace!
Thank you for putting Mandrake so high, he is what i remember the most about the "Epic" Movie. I loved that they make him a caring father instead of an abusive one, it really gives him a little more dimension to his character. I would have loved to see more of him in the movie.
bro same. him and ronin were the highlight and most memorable parts of the movie for me, though that may be also due to the fact that i crushed on both as a kid LMAO
I used to watch that movie on loop lmao i need to watch it again
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@@mayorkoopbob fr they made most of the male characters so weirdly attractive 😂
You can be an intimidating villain without being an abusive parent or a heartless monster. Mandrake and Killian are perfect examples of villains who are evil, who don't get redeemed and aren't "misunderstood" but are still people, which makes them so much more interesting than any "they're just misunderstood" characters.
Thanks for ranking Nigel so high! He’s easily my number one favourite Blue Sky villain thanks to his intimidating design, wicked personality, and Jemaine Clement’s sensational vocal performance!
“I will make you ugly… *TOO!”*
I completely agree with Killian being number 1. He’s the only Bluesky antagonist that managed to give me goosebumps. It may not be my favourite Bluesky film (hi Peanuts) but Spies in Disguise was a great movie (and a great swan song for the studio since it was sadly their last before the mouse bought them).
Plus I really like his Australian accent as that is just awesome
In the trailer they made him look even more intimidating than in the movie
That doesn’t mean he’s bad though
I LOVE KILLIAN SO MUCH
he also kinda 😳
@@williampulfer-melville8536He sounds like Director Krenic, who is also a great villain.
Small note: the lollipops Big Boss had were most likely a stand-in for cigars or cigarettes, to make it more kid-friendly
I've seen this thing for a while now, from Sanji's cigarette being turned into one thanks to 4Kidz in One Piece to Inspector Badd, from Ace Attorney Investigations, an established badass as his name implies, sucking on one the whole time.
I kinda like Big Boss as great obstacle rather than a villain, there two different things because he's the reason why I should care for birds because he is threatening symbol of destruction- not a villain.
I rank him higher if list based on destruction rather than being a lovable villain- Robots and horton villains are too likable for me it feel like a nuanced anti-heros that wanted best for society.
I WAS JUST THINKING THE SAME THING AND WAS GONNA COMMENT THAT
Nigel definitely is a weird character when you really think about it with the facts the film takes place in Brazil sulphur crested cockatoos are Australian Nigel himself is portrayed as British and he is voiced by a New Zealander
I mean yeah, but i don't find it any weirder than the season of power rangers that were made when Disney had control over the property. For example, there's a character that's supposed to be american, but has a british accent and is played by a new zealand actor in power rangers mystic force( as a note the power rangers under Disney were filmed in New Zealand and also used New Zealand actors.)
Maybe he was brought over specially from the UK?
19:19 - It also helps that Jim Broadbent, whom you may know him as characters with soft and sweet voices, provided the voice to the villainess. You can tell how much fun he's having in the role.
It's also hard to believe it's Jim Broadbent since he doesn't voice Madame gasket with his natural British accent
Not to be confiused by Jimmy Broadbent
What adds to Gutt’s charm is the fact that he’s played by a perfectly cast Peter Dinklage. Dinklage is great at playing quirky villains.
Peter Dinklage is quite an ironic casting choice seeing as Gutt is a gigantopithecus which were probably one of the largest species of great ape that ever lived and Peter Dinklage himself is really short
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Oh yes.
@@thomasspongeconductor2222 that's what I think makes it all the more amusing
@@williampulfer-melville8536 oh the irony
Because he is a quirky villain
Really, really pleased to see Cretaceous and Maelstrom so high on this list! I've always loved those two for their sick designs, genuine creepiness, and the real threat they pose to the protagonists. Despite their short screen time and lack of dialogue, they absolutely made a lasting impression on me. I LOVE everything you said about them serving as physical manifestations of Manny's fears - he worries about being the last of his kind while they really ARE the last of their kinds - and being almost like ghosts from a previous age, returned to haunt the species that have usurped them. I have no idea if the screenwriters actually intended all that symbolism/parallelism to be there, but idec, it's so good. I unironically love them and it makes me smile to see that others do too!
And of course, we would remissed not to mention that really dark, sudden on-screen kill.
@@mauriciogarcia4795 Ikr? That really freaked out my little sister when we first watched it, but 12-year-old me thought it was awesome. XD
I agree there's something super sinister about them like there evil for just being evil
24:34 I ADORE this scene. If the whole movie had focused on this conflict between Manny and Gutt, instead of juggling so many plot lines; I’d have zero problem calling this my favorite Ice Age sequel.
And yeah, I adore Madam Gasket, she’s pure evil and she owns it from her first appearance to her demise. I hope Disney doesn’t give Robots a sequel, not only because of the downgrade Adventures of Buck Wild suffered; but also because there I don’t think there’s any way they’re topping her
Definitely have to agree there. Their dynamic was really awesome I thought!
I will never forgive BlueSky for not doing more with Mandrake and the Boggans. They were always so much more intriguing and interesting to me than "the good guys" when I first watched the film as a kid.
I never interpret that scene as Sour Kangaroo actually considering sacrificing her son. When we see Vlad making that suggestion, we see her having a worry expression. To me, that line was just her planning on how to manipulate Vlad without having to sacrifice her own son.
Doesn’t sour kangaroo have another name? Jane Sour Roo or something? I know I have something to do with the name Jane. That’s the point. Is that true?
I am so glad Killian got so high on the list, since I adore how much the movie handled the theme of violent justice, and how flawed it is when it spawns people like Killian who has all the motivation to avenge both himself, as well as his people
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the fun part of the red baron is that they actually existed, he isnt just a random pilot made for snoopy’s story, hes Manfred von Richthofen, an ace-of-aces
🎶 And he's flying... HIGHER! THE KING OF THE SKIES! THE LEGEND WILL NEVER DIE! 🎶
I'm really happy/grateful you ranked Mandrake as high as you did on this list. So many people don't even remember that Epic even exists but I've always loved how he was a villain who genuinely cared for his son and people.
I do agree it would've been great if the film used him more but with the pacing and how we were already learning about the leaf men's cultures as well, I can't see how they could do that without just going into full on out of place exposition dumping. We did still get the idea that he's had a long rivalry with Ronan and even the hint that he was the one who killed Nod's dad, so there is still plenty of depth there.
This movie really needed a sequel (or prequel) istg 😭
It’s honestly kind of frightening how much the Sour Kangaroo serves as a pretty good cautionary tale against those with very strict ideals of what is and what isn’t, and instead of accepting the reality that our understanding of the world is constantly changing, clings vicariously to their old understanding of things and goes on the war path to demonize any and all who don’t stick to their exact beliefs.
It’s a message that unfortunately is very relevant these days and can apply to all sorts of contemporary issues.
Honestly thinking about the Dinobrids from Collison Course, they feeld like they belong in a Land Before Time sequel which even AniMat points it out in his Top 10 Worst Ice Age Characters video.
In my personal opinion I believe that Gasket has the most brutal death due to how while Soto was impaled she was melted down, seemingly slowly enough where everything else melts first and whatever part gives them sentience melts last due to extra protection
I think why Big Boss has a lollipop is that it's a joke on how bosses smoke cigars.
Any chance you may do a ranking of villains from Nickelodeon movies? There's quite a number of them, and they vary in how great or lacking they are.
I haven't watched many Blue Sky films, but the best ones I've seen would be 'The Peanuts Movie', 'Robots', and 'Ice Age 1 & 3'.
I think you forgot to mention the personal rivalry between Mandrake and Ronin, during battle where his son Dagda was killed by Ronin,Mandrake managed to kill the queen of the forest someone Ronin was very close to
Seeing the entry on Sour Kangaroo had me wonder if she would be a Karen. Yeah probably. I could see her being one or at least she emits Karen energy if that makes sense.
She’s basically a racist white mom who tries to stop her kid any time he starts realizing the different people aren’t so bad (at least until the end where she finally gets better).
Yeah she’s definitely Karen material
she annoying yes but not scary as big boss or Rudi for me [I like villain being destructive obstacles]
@@andreafraustoz I meant what I said more as a joke.
I hate Karens
@@kidprime6863 Yeah, Karens tend to suck
Cretaceous and Melstrom I had actually forgotten about since it's been so long since I've seen Ice Age 2, but all of their scenes, especially their first one always scared me as a kid!
These villains sure seemed like a rough ranking, and it seems even some of the lesser Blue Sky Studios movies (mainly Ferdinand and Ice Age 4) have great antagonists.
Madame Gasket would've been my number 1 choice. Her design is brilliant and her plan is pretty disturbing when you think about it...
I love how Ratchet wanted to do all the evil corporate philosophy stuff and Gasket just wanted to burn shit for the fun of it. Great duo
She's like Cruella De Ville, but instead of puppies she wants to wear poor people.
10:20 I have always been convinced she was acting or thinking a way to act. Keeping it cool. She never would consider to trade her boy in exchange for an 'imaginary' flower.
I would’ve put the Red Baron near the top, personally. I know he has no bearing on the A plot and is a figment of Snoopy’s imagination, but in the context of that story he’s an incredibly mysterious and unique villain. Honestly pretty badass.
Epic is a movie that even ten years after it's released and after I watched it, I still love it and I can't explain fully why. Maybe it's the fantasy aspect, maybe it's the fact that now I know how much historical evidence there is in the fighting techniques of the Leafmen, I don't know, but I love it nonetheless
Anyone else thinks Christoph Waltz should do more animated movies
Honestly, Rudy's #1 for me. He's truly terrifying. He's over 120ft fall, has human iq and is just overall intimidating. Especially in the canopy scene.
You should rank the dreamworks villains
That would be a very long video
Shen and Fairy Godmother better be in the top 2!
Now that I think about it, Sony villains would be better since they have significantly less movies
Gallaxhar better not be near the bottom
Oh lord I hated the Ice Age 2 villains so much😭 I have a horrible phobia of huge bodies of water and it terrified me as a child.
13:58 somthing I always loved About ratchets Speech as a kid is that it could be used in reverse.
Why be you? when you can be new!
Why be new? when you can be you?
Tbh both the human Rio villains may not have been the most "interesting" villains but of course they are the most common type of people
Was not expecting that number 1 reveal! Just awesome!
5:12 "He's ruthless, aggressive, tactical and imposing."
That Red Baron, he's a Char.
It’s the Ice Age villains that usually catch my attention. Especially since they used overlooked prehistoric animals that weren’t often shown in films or tv shows, like Cretaceous and Maelstrom being a Metriorhynchus and some kind of Pliosaur, orMosasaur, Rudy being a Baryonyx and Captain Gutt being a Gigantopithecus.
8:36 I personally think Madame Gasket’s death might have been more gruesome than Soto’s.
Also, 17:07 It’s not really animal rights so much as it is a PSA on bull fighting; animal rights activists want people and animals to have *literally nothing* to do with each other, *including* pets and seeing eye dogs.
Nigel and that rap.
That damn rap.
So theatrical.
I've always wanted to see how people would rank these villains. A great list!
Sour kangaroo should have been named Karen
In the original animated short based on Horton Hears a Who she was actually given the name Jane
This video was full of surprises. I have a question about Killian. Are we supposed to sympathize with him? because they said he was a terrorist even before he met Lance and Walter. So he made his life choice and kinda got what he deserved. I only took walter's side because Lance needs Killian alive so he could prove that he was framed. Also since you made a darkest illumation moments video, does this mean you're gonna do a darkest blue sky moments video?
No you aren’t supposed to sympathize with Killian but you can understand what he is saying: Lance and his agency say that they protect people yet they use violent methods with could also kill innocent people along with the villains and Lance killing his men doesn’t make Lance and his agency any better than Killian
Mandrake should be allowed to monologue. He's Hans Landa in bug form!
I am certainly happy to see feathered raptors slooowwwwllly becoming normalized in dino media...but so far the feathers have been "misused"..ie, these raptors flying and the "ice raptor" in Jurassic Dominion swimming under frozen water like a damn leopard seal...
I think you have a point with how Mandrake is portrayed. It's clever. Of course, I don't appreciate you throwing Hexxus from Ferngully under the bus like that. Hexxus is a rather imposing and captivating villain in his own right. If you have the time, it would be nice to see you cover such an underrated gem and it's Tim Curry masterpiece of a villain. Anyway, love your rankings and videos! Keep it up! (Sorry for the rough opinion. Hexxus is my all time favorite villain, and to see him boiled down as simplistic felt like a personal injustice. I still respect your opinion, though.)
I would have kicked and screamed if Gutt wasn't at least Top 5.
Peter Dinklage absolutely steals the show every time he pops up; and Gutt is the one redeeming quality about Continental Drift.
The girl sabertooth was also an okay character I think. Not nearly as good as Gutt tho.
Also ngl, his villain song slaps
Captain Gut was one of the very few good things about Ice Age 4
I think Nigel is the best villain and thank you for giving props to Captain Gutt, he was the best part of Ice Age 4.
2:41 I think the lollipop was supposed to substitute a cigarette seeing as a lot of these types of people are always seen with a cigarette in their mouth
Personally Nigel is my favourite Blue Sky villain. I also love Jemaine Clement's voice work. So fun to listen to :D
Fun fact: Big Boss's real name is Miguel, after his late voice actor, Miguel Ferrer.
I enjoy blue sky films, but this really highlights how lacklustre their villains have been. A bit of a shame, since they’ve had so many. Killian looks great though, I’ll have to watch that film.
Horton hears a who (the blue sky’s one ) genuinely is my nostalgic movie I got it for a Christmas present from my grandparents when I was like 7 or 8 and I watched it constantly
Honorable mentions
The astroid
Gaby
The drones
Mandara
Soto gang
Llamo Wickersham brothers
5:20 not only that but The Red Baron was a real German fighter pilot during the first World War
It has every blue sky villain on the list so good job
0:22 - Gavin, Gerty and Roger (Ice Age 5: Collision Course)
2:09 - Big Boss (Rio 2)
3:19 - Marcel (Rio)
4:43 - The Red Baron (The Peanuts Movie)
6:07 - Rudy (Ice Age 3: Dawn of the Dinosaurs)
7:06 - Soto (Ice Age)
9:00 - Sour Kangaroo (Horton Hears a Who!)
12:02 - Vlad (Horton Hears a Who!)
13:38 - Phineas P. Ratchet (Robots)
15:31 - El Primero (Fernand)
17:12 - Madame Gasket (Robots)
19:20 - Mandrake (Epic)
21:27 - Cretaceous and Melstrom (Ice Age 2: The Meltdown)
23:03 - Captain Gutt (Ice Age 4: Continetial Drift)
25:13 - Nigel (Rio)
27:03 - Killian (Spies in Disguise)
Rudy terrified me as a little kid. Probably didn't help that I first saw the movie in 3D so it was extra scary for 9 year old me 😂
I watched Robots only one time at a friends house and man Madame Gasket scared the shit out of me.
Sour Kangaroo is someone I really hate because she was not a good mother and wants everything her way, but she learns her lesson. Soto is a great villain bent on revenge and is willing to kill anyone who stand in his way or betray him.
Killian is a top tier villain but for me it goes to Rudy in Ice Age 3 and Madame Gasket in Robots
To be fair about sour kangaroo.
I will add that i dont think she was necessarily considering giving her son. Sure the joke about her thinking about it is there. But it could be argued she was also thinking up her manipulation tactic to get vlad to do it without giving up her kid.
The change of heart bit is more to line up with the book. They could have fleshed out its progression better but it works for what it is i think.
Outside that shes pretty great as an antagonist
I think I’m not AS scared of Ratchet as I am the other villains…
Because he just doesn’t give off an intimidating vibe.
He gives off the annoying business man vibe.. His MOM ON THE OTHER HAND.
Tbh she’s intimidating af.. And the CHOP SHOP doesn’t fix it for me. I remember being scared of that place in the movie as a kid. Not much any more but holy shit a whole place that kills off old robots ..
How about a ranking of Pixar and Dreamworks Villains?
I’d like that 🙂👍
Ranking Sony Pictures Animation villains
@@lexramstudios1386 sounds cool too
Madame Gasket and Rachet are both placed FAR higher for me. I see the parallels of outmodes with those like me, on so called "disability benefits" and what will happen if and when that gets purposefully taken away by a government based on monetary gain. Robots is a story about being yourself, even if you can fall apart on the daily, like Fender. A story about Community Over Money. "Whether a bot is made of old parts, new parts, or spare parts. You can shine no matter what you're made of."
BIG BOSS?!? Nah that’s a number one spot he’s a war criminal and has a sad backstory killing the boss as such. He was truly villainous is metal gear solid 5 tho.
Epic made me understand why its okay to kill bugs out of my tree this year. To help save it. Hundreds of earwigs and bugs were eating it from the inside. Nature is in a cycle of constant growth and rot.
My problem with Epic is that it doesn't feel like an environmental film. It falls back on the "cute/pretty animals = good and ugly animals = bad" cliches, while painting a good chunk of nature AS the villains. While it may not be as infuriating as, say, HUMANS = good/EVERYTHING ELSE = Bad, which is a cliche that's become more and more prevailent in media, it's still annoying.
Wait, Epic was supposed to be an _environmental_ film? I thought it was about trusting your family and all that.
Nigel is the Joker of the Blue Sky films
I do find it strange though that the movie is that in Brazil sulphur crested cockatoos are Australian Nigel himself is portrayed as British and he is voiced by a New Zealander
The main reason why big boss on a lollipop I think they wanted to make him smoke on a cigarette but they not been allowed to
9:20
Soooooo… Sour Kangaroo is a Karen before Karens, Interesting,
Horton hears a Who is a Movie I saw *_YEARS_* Ago, and I thought I just Imagined
it because I didn’t see or hear anything about it afterwards…
15:15
Behind all of Rachets evil corporate greed {Which is something I hate}
He is just a whiney little Mamas Boy…
17:23
I also love Madame Gaskets character design, she is the Mama of the Mamas Boy,
and she is the Demented Robot behind the _Chop Shop_ and the Machines that take
Robots from the quiet streets at night… With that song “Underground” {By: Tom Waits} Playing for the Introduction
of the _Chop Shop_ Making quite the vibe~^^
When you think about the size of a mammoth rudi would be about as tall as those double decker buses so he definitely is one of if not the biggest one on the list.
Vlad lives in my head rent-free. He's stuck in my mind. I can't stop thinking about him. 🙃🫠🫠
Okay, in all seriousness, though, Vlad Vladikoff may not be the smartest bird of prey around, and he may be considered the secondary antagonist of Horton Hears a Who, but BOY did Vlad leave a big impression on me!
He is just VERY eccentric and surprisingly goofy as hell despite trying so hard to make himself look like a mysterious frightening creature in the Jungle of Nool, and MY GOSH, I ABSOLUTELY LOVE him for it!
I really appreciate you for putting him in the top 10! He is my favorite character in Horton Hears a Who! and my all-time favorite Blue Sky Studios character as a whole! 🤭🤭🤭🖤🦅
I do wish he was higher in this list, though. Vlad may not be the smartest, as I mentioned before, but he sure as hell is an entertaining secondary villain to watch on-screen.
NOw I finally remembered what the movie about tiny leaf warriors and batskin guy was like
I agree with that ranking
I equate sour kangaroo to a real life karen.
I am pretty sure why big boss had a lollipop is because they want him to be a smoker, instead of a cigarette it’s a lollipop.
Sour the Kangaroo is probably one of my favorite villains from my childhood
Im glad none of the dinosaurs talked in ice age 3. Really just gives rudy a much more feral look ig.
Dang, in my country Niggel is named Pepillo
The only villains I like is:
1. Yummo wickersham
2. Rudy
3. Gutt
4. Vlad
5. Councilman
6. Nits wickersham
7. Nuts wickersham
8. Madam gasket
9. Wickersham brothers
10. Nigel
Ratchet reminds me of Handsome Jack from Borderlands and so I'm biased to like him
Robots was 1 step away from giving me nightmares after watching it. I literally thought, "huh they are kind of creepy, like all of them".
Also after watching it I was like *"Wow. I don't remember ANY OF THE PLOT".*
I forgot *Spies in Disguise* was a Blue Sky film.
ratchet is just the handsome jack that couldnt, and i love that
I think the redemption arc should've gone to Vlad as Rudy is sold off to him he may find himself with a change of heart after realizing how Rudy has been silenced by his mother for so long. Adding even more depth to Vlad as a character too; at first, it's all about killing the clover then it transforms into protecting the clover because of what Rudy sees it represent. Vlad literally taking Rudy “under his wing”.
That's actually a pretty good way to flesh out Vlad as a character.
...And I do understand Jane's redemption was meant to stay true to the original book, but it would have been nice to see her and Vlad's redemptions be fleshed out to help the movie stand out from the original book the movie was based on.
another thing to note about Gasket:
she is the owner of a factory that captures people, and puts them on a track, where they are brutally ripped to shreds to be turned into the UPGRADES of other robots
So sour kangaroo is just a karen but anthropormortized
I wish they could've had the dino villains have a decent plan but one that would halt the main characters. The main characters are just doing whatever they can to survive, but the dino birds are trying to think on how they could profit from this. For example, they try to halt their progress in stopping the asteroid so they can stop it first and become respected and get all the food they want. They want to steal their plan, then kidnap them and keep them from enacting it. Something like that. Then, by the end, they still realize the plan wouldn't work with just the 3, and instead of obsessing over glory they actually snap out of it and realize they need help, or that teamwork makes the dreamwork is another way to put it.
huh, and they mostly say that Killian is a typical bland villain for some reason (case in point ANIMAT´S analysis)
Though you can't argue that his Australian accent is pretty cool
Admittedly, I’m a sucker for pirates, sea shanties, and characters who are very suave, so I think Captain Gutt is my favorite villain in the roster. However, I agree with your list mostly, aside from Nigel, would probably swap him and Gutt. Otherwise, great video
I was so happy when you put Killian at number one some peoples reviews on spies in disguise say Killain is the generic leader of a group of bad guys trying to avenging his people but I see it otherwise Killain is a somewhat sympathetic (note: I’m not saying we should sympathize with terrorists) and a respectable Villain. Unlike most leaders he didn’t see his men as replaceable he cared about them enough to avenge their deaths despite who they were and I also wish they should us how the Krgyzstan attack happened since he said Lance took everything from him so I don’t know if that means one of his men was a relative or if someone he deeply cared about was also killed
I don't think the first dino birds were meant to be that villainous, just to give more tension
El Primero is in my opinion one of the more respectable villains since there are other villains that would still try to kill the heroes or complain even though the conflict has been resolved like Zera form loin king 2
I remember seeing spies in disguise in theaters and it was amazing
Red Baron is a ok villain but I like the part he drown in the pond in the ending of the movie I like that for a villain defeat
My top 16 Blue sky villains from worst to best
16 Big boss
15 The dino birds
14 mandrake
13 El Primero
12 The red baron
11 Marcel
10 Vlad
9 sour kangaroo
8 Rudy
7 Madame gasket
6 Sea monsters
5 soto
4 Captain gut
3 Nigel
2 Killian
1 Phineas T ratchet
Finally the video I waited for
Isn't the Vlad technically a minion to the Sour Kangaroo?
It's also strange that the sour kangaroo who was given the name Jane kangaroo in the original Horton Hears a Who animated short is not voiced with an Australian accent as I feel like it's a mandate for Kangaroos to have an Australian accent seeing as they are Australian