I have practiced with copper washers, by purchasing at harbor freight. In the US, they have a pack of only copper washers for $5, and there are about 20 pieces in the pack. Also, i use the economy ring stretcher/reducer from Simond Store on eBay. Very useful and does the heavy lifting for you, especially for people like me with terrible arthritis in my hands.
Awesome idea doing that without a solder joint, almost like a coin ring! I have an idea as to how to get the top a little more uniform. What if you flip the collet over and hammer in the top a little so it slides further into the cone hole and then you can spread it back out more evenly with the punch? It’s hard to describe through text, I wish I could just show what I’m talking about.
You are actually meant to start this process in your doming block. Try using your metal block to force your collet down then use the punch in your last. Learned from a very old jeweller.
I really love how you will experiment with us!! Your knowledge and some new ideas makes great learning I think. If you have time I would love to see a video on making bails for pendants. We can do jump rings but it would be nice to see how to make a nice bail... Thanks so much for all you do!
For what it’s worth - I’ve made collets before by buying tube, cutting it down and then shaping it with the collet forming tool / punch. It does work but it’s not as good as the old school way. Much faster tho.
Great info/technique , thanks for sharing. That could speed up making collets a lot if you ever need speed and series in a job. In this video the edge of the punched collet was a bit uneven/raffelt because you hand sawed the disk. Now imagine you would also use a disc cutter punch to make the disk......how long would it take to make a collet or a dozen of collets compared to a collet like you used to make them?? . Old method you need to cut and file a strip first...than bend it ...solder it ..file the solder and then make it perfectly round using the collet die.With some experience in choosing the right size to cut the starting disk i bet a collet could be made under 5 minutes using the shown technique.
I guess this would be considered sinking - In theory there's a way of raising the outer edge up and compressing it inwards with very little change in thickness. Could be done by spinning it on a lathe, but that's a different game, especially at this scale.
Hey there, I have an odd question So our workshop relies heavily on donations and we have this device that looks similar to this machine thingie, only it is only one row of circles, and it opens in half and there are ridges on the inside. Any clue what it is and how we figure out how to use it? It’s been in the workshop for over a decade and nobody knows what it is
I make coin rings @kendal_rings and iv thought about using this method to make collets but i still havnt tried it yet lol.. Iv punches an dies for the larger diameter 2ml silver coins.! Great video though Chris. It turned out not as bad as i thought.. See in coin rings we usually make a bigger hole that ones we would have in our collets, so its probably easier to move the silver maybe? But the second smaller on u tried didnt turn out too bad😬 lol
What if you started by putting the disc into a doming block first then into the collet block
Thanks for posting. I like your delivery style. No messing about.
That's a brilliant tip. Making jewellery 25 years and living that you are constantly learning. Thank you.
I have practiced with copper washers, by purchasing at harbor freight. In the US, they have a pack of only copper washers for $5, and there are about 20 pieces in the pack. Also, i use the economy ring stretcher/reducer from Simond Store on eBay. Very useful and does the heavy lifting for you, especially for people like me with terrible arthritis in my hands.
Awesome idea doing that without a solder joint, almost like a coin ring! I have an idea as to how to get the top a little more uniform. What if you flip the collet over and hammer in the top a little so it slides further into the cone hole and then you can spread it back out more evenly with the punch? It’s hard to describe through text, I wish I could just show what I’m talking about.
Starting right in that cone will really spread that hole. Can control it better by starting with a dead draw into your dapping block
You are actually meant to start this process in your doming block. Try using your metal block to force your collet down then use the punch in your last. Learned from a very old jeweller.
I use a disk punch and form block using a hydraulic press. Same result, no hammering.
I really love how you will experiment with us!! Your knowledge and some new ideas makes great learning I think. If you have time I would love to see a video on making bails for pendants. We can do jump rings but it would be nice to see how to make a nice bail... Thanks so much for all you do!
I will put it on the list!
All information you share is useful for me . I am watching your videos. Thx you
a like and comment for the algorithm. great little tips, thanks again!
Hey Chris, where would you recommend buying setting punches from? Love the channel, thanks for always sharing. Regards from a viewer in Aus xx
For what it’s worth - I’ve made collets before by buying tube, cutting it down and then shaping it with the collet forming tool / punch. It does work but it’s not as good as the old school way. Much faster tho.
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nice demo Chris
Hi. I need the tool you using .. please suggess from where I can buy this tool.
Great info/technique , thanks for sharing. That could speed up making collets a lot if you ever need speed and series in a job. In this video the edge of the punched collet was a bit uneven/raffelt because you hand sawed the disk. Now imagine you would also use a disc cutter punch to make the disk......how long would it take to make a collet or a dozen of collets compared to a collet like you used to make them?? . Old method you need to cut and file a strip first...than bend it ...solder it ..file the solder and then make it perfectly round using the collet die.With some experience in choosing the right size to cut the starting disk i bet a collet could be made under 5 minutes using the shown technique.
I guess this would be considered sinking - In theory there's a way of raising the outer edge up and compressing it inwards with very little change in thickness. Could be done by spinning it on a lathe, but that's a different game, especially at this scale.
I want to buy a collet block. What size would you recommend ? Is a bezel block the same thing ?
Hey there, I have an odd question
So our workshop relies heavily on donations and we have this device that looks similar to this machine thingie, only it is only one row of circles, and it opens in half and there are ridges on the inside.
Any clue what it is and how we figure out how to use it?
It’s been in the workshop for over a decade and nobody knows what it is
No idea! Is it part of a disc cutter??
@@DiamondMounter no, doesn’t seem like it. It isn’t like a smooth surface, the inside of the grooves have ridges, it’s strange
I make coin rings @kendal_rings and iv thought about using this method to make collets but i still havnt tried it yet lol.. Iv punches an dies for the larger diameter 2ml silver coins.! Great video though Chris. It turned out not as bad as i thought.. See in coin rings we usually make a bigger hole that ones we would have in our collets, so its probably easier to move the silver maybe? But the second smaller on u tried didnt turn out too bad😬 lol
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i use 1.5mm sterling, 16mm dia with a 1.5mm hole in the middle. Failed
i think it's hard to do it properly. so i/m gonna stick to the old school way
@@JADE-tu8xs lol yes the old way is best
Can you show how to make tennis bracelets
OMG theyre so much work
Maybe show making just two links and connecting them
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