seraphine could have easily been a siren from the lakes under mount targon, have amazing lore connections with nami but they didn’t really wasted potential
@@saegemh her ultimate skin is fine, skin lines dont have to keep in line with their lore anyway, the idea of a siren with a skin which makes her a popstar really works
@@tree4126 She's ixtal actually. It kinda makes sense, since ixtal is like runeterra's version of the amazon rainforest or at least a deep jungle like theme, and neeko, like most creatures in rainforests, is pretty exotic, vibrant, and mystifying in a way.
@@javierrivera5834 i mean neither is rakan or xayah and they, along with neeko are litterally made from spiritual energy plus neekos abilities are litterally called pop blossom and blooming burst and she is colorful and vibrant just like nature so i think she gets a pass
Kai'sa should have ptsd and self control issues. She gives off mary sue vibes. She lived in some hellish nightmare-scape and probably had to eat void things, is part voidling, and seems completely unphased, like she went back to her hometown from college.
Seraphine is so different because they literally went "pop idols are popular so lets make one" so they made the champion outside League of legends, with her instagram and music, and then they tried to implement her in the game.
I think Sera would have fit better if they just said she's from our world and was brought to Runeterra. Or make her another quirky Targonian like Zoe. But I think the first idea would make more sense and be more acceptable. I still like her, but if she were to be removed I honestly wouldn't feel the difference
I haven't read her lore, but I just had nothing against her, because I assumed everyone from Pilltower and Zaun is bat shit insane. There's literally a rat with a trenchcoat, giant hairball with a wrench and laser guns, anarchist with a minigun whoose abilities sound like sexual innuendos "GET EXCITED", a goo version of sandman, Hulk, steampunk sniper, pink hair girl with power fists and a Orcs Must Die ripoff. A teenage girl who shoots people with an extravagant music tune doesn't stand out tbh. That part of Runeterra is just insane on a fundamental level.
I think narratively Sett kits serve his purpose in Ionia, his whole character is about not fiting in (not being accepted in Ionia as a son of an enemy Noxian, not being accepted by humans/vastyas as halfbreed between). So his kit does not fit the Ionian ideal of spirituality and fluidity but borrows the Noxian ideals of power and aggression, things that Ionia do not know or crave before the Noxian invasion.
I haven't read into sett's background thoroughly enough but being a interracial child was a good way to showcase the brutishness yet subtlety of his character.
@@Yrm1e I agree. I find Sett much more interesting than, say, Sion or Darius who are your run of the mill D&D/ MMO tropes. Sett's backstory and playstyle is unique enough to counterbalance the Jo Jo references, even if his shield still needs to be nerfed. His addition builds the world, involving magic vs spirituality, Noxus, Ionia, Human and Vastayan relationships, not to mention the black market and extension of fighting pits (in Ionia of all places), neatly tying back to Draven/ Riven and that pre-established world history. Sett may not be the most original champ aesthetically, until you look at him from a story perspective (as well as realize just how much of his "coat" is actually fur). He looks and plays like an anime pretty boy cuz references, but he's so much more than that when you do any research into who he is as a character/ champion. Man, now my inner fangirl wants an Inuyasha vs Sett discussion for best beast boy bastard...
Having looked more into Samira's background at the behest of several comments, I stand corrected in my assessment of her background and inclusion as a Noxian. While from a backstory stance my perspective has shifted, I still stand by my points about her overloaded kit in gameplay. Sett as well, I had him listed as a champion that felt inserted awkwardly into the game, but his background as a half noxian half Ionian makes a lot of sense in the grand scheme of things. And yes, Kled has a gun, though it's not really his main weapon of choice so much as it is just (as the name implies) a pocket pistol. Just wanted to apologize for my myopic stance on it at the time of making the video. I'll be sure to be more thorough next time!
Well Kai'sa is kassadins daughter which is a big lore drop for the void when that happened and zoe is big point in darkins aatrox lore with a bunch of targon and all the other champs also had big story points they all have made the only move forward. ONLY one that has never made a big story point or move the story forward is seraphine she had next to 0 lore and they kinda got forced to put her out for the next song / skin line. Over priced stuff and many other things that werent ok which was called out at the time and shut down mostly just a weird cash grab looking situation . Which the only champ id say fits for this entire video is seraphine the rest dont really fit since so much lore came out of all of comics to that were really good and showed more of the world advanced the story a ton and showed way more of the characters personality's what there doing now present day all that and you get 0 of that with seraphine. Yummi master might currently be the one helping with the ruined king and over half of these characters in this video have been know in the lore like samira just we never got any hard info on them tell they just got released tell later . Kayn lores mixes with zed ,shen, kayn , jhin to much lore to explain all these champs but you might want to look into all of them and there comics so you can see why they are all here same since most of these have more then 4 to 6 storys in the lore and advancing the story and world.
Been watching a lot of your videos last 2 days since I found them. Just wanted to say that I'm glad I found you, and good on you for owning up to small errors in this vid.
Yeah and also part of the reason why the game's popularity is declining. They just keep on releasing these "fullclear to 6" jungle champions, while the most fun ones don't even have a lvl 6 ability or have 2 forms (Elise, Nidalee, Lee Sin, Udyr).
lillia has well defined strenghts, and well defined weaknessed. Most new champions are just a frontload of strenghts, with little weaknesses until riot nerfs them into the ground
I was super excited when we got the wind that Kassadin's daughter is making her champion debut, I thought to myself how would she look like after surviving in the void for so long, would she still be human but changed like Kassadin? or did she changed into a more grotesque monster like how Reksai and Kogmaw is, nope, just a hot chick with a tight skin suit that shoots void rockets from a floating shoulder cannon, needless to say, my dream of having a more diverse void champion died that day, and Riot doesn't like making monster champions.
Agreed , I like how she took the suit and it became part of her and she became a hunter etc but I agree that the should've looked more void-y? Maybe some grotesque features like morphed arms or something else instead of a hot girl in a suit
the monster skins dont make money rip i fuckin love the monster designs and with the new fiddle it shows they CAN pump out good ones but ya know doesnt make as much money so they are left to rot
To me the biggest problem with new champions is that they want to be everything. Usually champions excel at one thing and u could class them into 1 category, however a lot of recent champions go to much into other classes and that makes them very hard to balance. Take Aphelios for example, both an utility marksmen and a hypercarry marksmen, add some healing too, something that was a big no no in a marksmen kit. Then take a look at Yummi, usually enchanters have 1 big drawback, being easy to kill if they dont position right or if they get flanked, but Yummi doesnt need to think about that.
@@galio7741 but is also harder to balance, because every class should have a certain weakness specific to that class. If u start to merge classes, its a bit harder to keep those weaknesses open. Tell me, a diverse champion like Aphelios was fun to play against? The sustain, dps, utility ADC?
Neeko was literally designed as a fish out of water archetype, she's from a far away island no one from mainland Valoran has seen. She's designed to stick out on purpose.
Riot when designing virgo: - We will design a champion from shadow isles which is currupted Also riot: *Proceeds to release a champion that actually can corrupt the game* - totally within the character theme 👌
@@PoemFoot honestly makes him jnique in the shadow isles, only issue i have with this is everyone else has this hot boy thing Still hes a good villain and him being hot due to his insane narcissistic unhealthy relationship tendencies makes sense, dude sees himself as a protag And besides we already have mordekaiser, but we need more monsterous shadow isle shit still, also tbh Mordekaiser is just as much of a whiny bitch as viego
At this point, Riot should really stop creating new champions for a while, it's too overcrowded and they are getting really weird and overloaded. They should, instead, rework all the champions that actually need it in order to bring them to the same standards new champions have. You know, better models, better skills, that sort of thing. Stoping champion creation will make for better reworks too, and they could also source some of these people for the skin team, since they are still creative oriented developers and can really boost the skin quality of ideas and such. With more people working on more skins, Riot makes more money, that they can divert into more skins and the rework efforts, possibly other things in the company too. Riot doesn't make as much money with champions as they do with skins, so it makes much more sense to update older champions in order to make their playerbase bigger, allow new skins to be produced and be easier to accomodate to those characters, and most importantly, whenever a new champion does show up, it will be a more refined champion, and probably have the benefit of hype with it.
I really like that idea but a lot I mean ALOT of people would hate it because there is nothing new to the game and we dont want another Akali or Aatrox in our hands. (old mains getting sad that their champ is gone and they have to deal up with the new ones) Irelia is one that changed 70% of her old kit but the new one is like an upgraded version of the old one that's why we did not hear (GIVE US OUR MAIN BACK) at all.
@@sinasona1229 I agree, but I also think most of the champions that run that risk are already reworked in that way. Riot should really just update slightly the champions that need it after concluding all reworks (like udyr, shyvana etc). The idea that the game won't feel fresh if we don't have nothing new is odd to me, because we have a lot of champions that people can try out (if not already) and riot can spice it with rotations modes, tweaks to items and all. Not having new champions would finally let a meta set down for more than a patch or two, and even then they still can change numbers to avoid champions breaking the game. I think they should grab some old champions and give them new passives that are more inline with recent champions. We don't need essays as passives, but there champions that could use some more help. For instance, Nasus passive could be moved to his Q, and he could get a new one to either help his stacking gameplay or fighting potential (more movespeed, for instance). Stuff like that
Thats the problem with LOL nowadays...if they're gonna make a new character then how bout use that character as a swap skin--instead of a separate new champion....! take for example Seraphine could just be a character costume swap for Sona instead. (like Christie Monteiro and Eddy Gordo used to be) and now adding up more champions would only overshadow the rest of the cast that some people grew attached to like they weren't been there by the community.
I remember when LoL was a way waaay smaller game, they made a survey, if people want more champs or more fixing and balancing, people voted champions. Which lead to Azir, when he came out it had so much bugs they had to pull him until they fixed the copious amount of bugs. After that they slowed down on champions. We would really need that slow down again. But people want new things, thats what keeps a large amount of people still playing.
@@ogabrielsabadin that's not what complex means, that's a sign of being countered. The armor and Zhonya's is a counter. But Zed himself, as in mechanics, used to be considered complicated. Now, he is kind of basic compared to most champions. A sign of the changing of times.
Still, when I look at her it alway end up for me. Why the hell she isn't from Bilgewater. Pirate looking check, gun and sword check, can start a fight in bar check. Nothing from her feel Noxius unlike Kled
Do yourself a favor: just don't count Sera when talking about Region continuity. The heads of Riot saw how popular kda was and demanded the creative teams find a way to force a popstar rather than a bard with a kda release skin into. That's literally why she exists. Her original inception was not designed to add to Piltover or Zaun
Seraphine was supposed to release before Lillia though, but they delayed her release because they saw her as a good opportunity for a new K/DA member and that's why they were able to start her promotion so early. One Rioter talked about it on reddit
The problem with the new champions is that they usually have mechanics that remove their own counterplay and some of them straight up make some older champions obsolete. Like (no accurate number) 90% of champs released nowadays has some form of immunity, Yone can actually completely negate Malzahar R with his R (maybe even Q?), we have windwalls, shrouds, champion overtakings that make you immune etc. Usually you would think that you counter mobility with cc, but when mobility has the tools to remove its own counterplay that feels dumb and it is a problem imo. And Riot has pretty much thrown out the rule book when it comes to new champions, that's their problem.
One thing I'd like to add is that some of the new champs create the illusion of difficulty. At first glance and overloaded kit seems difficult, but upon closer inspection you realize that's surprisingly straight forward and the overloaded nature simply means the champs has a large amount of built in safety nets that save you from a poor play.
For the most part I agree, but if we're talking about all the champs he mentioned I think there are a few who are fairly difficult, like Zoe; who's pretty much entirely reliant on skillshots and has a ton of counters. She seems to be one of the more difficult champs to master (just from looking at her kit -- I've only played her once or twice in ARAM).
One of the biggest dropped projects by RIOT was one that I really loved: the Darkin. In less than a year, we had Kayn released (7.12.17), Varus' lore update (11.30.17), and Aatrox's rework (6.21.18). Riot was following the storyline about them needing to find the 4th of 5 Darkin, located somewhere in Shurima. Then, nothing. There have been no updates on the storyline, no news articles, no decent AskRiot posts. Nothing. Only a mention of the Darkin in Vlad's new lore but nothing to progress or flesh out the story. If Riot wants to add a great champ to the story line, there is so much set up already done and a great theme that Riot initially set up as the base story line at the beginning of the game.
Man bro, you’re so right! I was so excited for at least a teaser then for an eventual release but it was radio silence, which sucks. I was so into the darkin story but its been a couple years since then.
Honestly one of my favorite new releases has been Lillia. Her kit is interesting and thematically fits into her region. Her kit is also very simple and does take too much to under stand. She also kind of borrows abilities from other champions but has a different playstyle and twist to it so it doesnt feel copy pasted into her kit. her q is a darius q but is meant for kiteing. her ult borrows zoe's sleep mechanic in a simple way. her e is like the global ultimate with limitation. and her w is just less damage outside cone high damage inside. it all combines into a champion who is easy to understand and pick up while also having a lot of depth to her playstyle
I main Aphelios, he's honestly one of my all time favorite champions not only in league, but dare I say in the entire moba genre. I love that he forces you to adapt to what you are given, as you have to play around your weapon rotation and combos you can pull out. I even made a manual for lots of different weapon rotations you can do, and it got some praise on r/ApheliosMains (someone even claiming that my document was revolutionary). His lore isn't that bad, and there's something oddly satisfying about Aphelios being mute - maybe because I'm autistic myself, so we both share some form of disability.
True, though being mute is a self-imposed disadvantage for Aphelios. He either drinks poison and loses the ability to feel pain and gets to talk to his sister or loses out on all the advantages of the poison even though the pain is excruciating. I love him though! He’s one of my favorite champions and him lacking a voice in battle makes it much more special to think about what he’s like when he isn’t on Noctum. I hope Riot does a voice reveal in a legendary skin one day haha
Here’s the thing about Seraphine. I don’t think a piltie/zaunite musician as a concept is a miss, i just think the execution was bad. I don’t know why you don’t think the stage can be considered a gadget that gives piltover/zaun it’s identity. Maybe if she looked less pop idol-ish and more steampunk, or in zaun’s case, punk rock and instead of the stage they used a different gadget, she’d be fine imo
Exactly. She legit looks like she came right out of the star guardian universe. And considering (if I remember correctly) she initially lived in zaun, she could be such a good addition to the roster. She would actually have some character development, overcoming poverty, trying not to hate pilties despite how easy it is zo blame them for the hard life of zaunites, and an endless amount of other options, instead of "oh no her ears hurt, here's a dead soul to help it and now go try to heal the world for no reason whatsoever"
I think her concept art with the orbs and whatnot was a FAR better implementation of the Piltover/Zaun thematic. It was more gadget-like and better representative of her theme than a random floating stage. The stage also has the side-effect ingame of making her feel incredibly stiff for as lively of a character as she is.
Imo the fact that her skills have to much similarities to Sona killed both Sona and Sera's identity Like srsly who wants to play Sona now, given a better version of her is in the game
While I agree with you on most points, I would like to point out that Zoe does fit in the lore with Targon, and how Bard finally got a actual aspect. Zoe's ability's also fit with Bard. Her gameplay is ass tho. Also Ornn fits into the Frejord's lord because he is one of the three demigods. Everything else I agree with.
"explained in the lore" and "fits in the lore" aren't the same things. Yes, Zoe is an Aspect and is really X hundred years old and just showed up and all that, sure, that's what the lore is. But then you look at the actual character Zoe and the impression is '13 year old girl on a sugar high with an aesthetic from Lite-Brite'. The lore exists, the lore is written around the character and not integrated into the character. That said, take this with a grain of salt, Targon's lore rework is actually what made me quit the game because I hate it so much so I ain't exactly unbiased here.
I agree. Zoe fits just fine in my opinion, as much as people (and I) find her annoying. The idea that there's an Aspect of Twilight goes with Leona and Diana imo, and with her voice lines about change and heralding changes fit well. I actually actively like the idea that in the "in between" time of twilight there's crazy stuff that can be going on (represented by her spell stealing) since that's a common motif in folklore of a few cultures and is in various media. It makes sense to me that she'd be very chaotic. Also, unlike the other commenter, I don't think they shoehorned her in at all. Expanding on the universe while utilizing what's already there works imo, and that's what they did with Zoe just by filling in Twilight alongside Dawn/Day and Night. It didn't seem out of place at all, just expanded but still based on what's already established. I also feel like I should mention that her and Aurelion Sol go well together, too, though I know he's debated as well. (And no, I don't play Zoe and she annoys the heck out of me in game, but I think the general idea is neat.)
I don't think complicated is a bad thing as long as it fits into the lore. Take bard for example, he is really hard to master but his design and character is wonderful for runeterra. Not everything has to be simple because it is super fulfilling when you finally master a really difficult champion.
@@lessgetit4841 exactly i see samira as a big meme its like a female garen its just so bland riot really did the bland character 13 years ago with garen and did now with samira
@@UmDevoto bruh, Garen is a generic warrior, Lux a generic mage, Ashe another archer with Ice, Alistar a regular minotaur, the list goes on from old Champions.
I think the champions that have been added recently seem so out of place or "wild" is because maybe Riot is setting up more story branches for even more characters to be introduced and further expand Runeterra.
i dont really agree with all the champion that you said feel out of the lore like samira or kai'sa and sett if you really read all the the lore you will see that they are inportant to link the regions between each others for example samira link shurimaand noxus and sett link ionia in a different way from kayn ps: sorry for my english
I have to disagree. While I do think Sett works as the type of rebel such a society can create (hes akin to the Yakuza, for a comparison), I think the other two are flawed. Samira screams Bildgewater, not Noxus. The story her character, her model, and personality tells is more like what you'd expect from Bildgewater mercenary who knows they are badass. The only reason I know shes from Noxus is because I read her lore, and that's an issue. While I disagree with the "champions should always reflect their region" idea, I do think they should at least show signs that stand out that they have traits from that region. Samira fails to do that imho. Kai'sa makes no sense lore wise. Kassadin and Malzahar has established that entering the Void means you as re not the same coming out. While her "suit" is her change, it doesnt actually seem to corrupt her on the surface and, dare I say, looks just like typical fantasy clothing. If they showed simple lines that went in her skin, or her eyes being corrupt with energy, her skin tone being off and unnatural, or anything like that, her visual design would make sense. But to be honest, she was made hot because hot sales. sadly. Neeko also gets a pass. She represents a whole new faction and frankly, she does so successfully so far.
@@hellfrozenphoenix13 kaisa and seena have the same problem that the consecuences dont show up. I mean years trapped by thresh and the only thing you get is some power and green eyes? no bones showing no mental breackdowns nothing. And the same goes for kaisa if they make her more like venom it would be fine but she just wear a suit
@@kikofernandez9184 false. The void has shown affect ones form, how it does so in that circumstances, and how it changes. Kai'sa breaks a pretty established rule. Senna's also shows how she is affected immediately. Her piercing eyes show the mist (hinted by Yorick to be the Shadow Isle souls), all of her holy power have dark elements to them (threshes lantern) and her mind state reflects that of someone who has realized she was drastically wrong. Where Kai'sa was done wrong, senna was done right. Senna shows her changes up front, in a manner that matches her circumstances (she isnt "skeletal" because her soul was taken, not body. Therefore her soul would be affected, which it is) and by glance is clearly not a normal person.
I agree with a lot of these statements, but I gotta disagree on Samira, Neeko, and Sett. Other people have commented about Neeko and Samira, but Sett I feel is Ok in the game’s lore. He represents the dark side of Ionia, the fighting pits, which happened as a result of Noxus invasion. He wants to grow higher in the world to maybe confront his father about why he left the family. He’s half vastayan and half human which means he has a balance of both sides, Human’s dark nature and Vastayans wish for peace. Yeah, maybe he isn’t the BEST contender in story wise, but I think Sett is at least better than some characters like Seraphine. And I do agree about Kai’sa, although she ties to Kassadin’s story line, her lore doesn’t really make sense and it feels like that they designed her kit instead of designing her reason to be in the game in the first place.
At first I wanted to comnent that Samira comes from Shurima, so maybe he has some of her design from there, but then I realized that 7 of them are ancient tombmonster, and then Sivir and Taliyah left. So I cant really think of a theme similar tho Samira
@@VarsVerum a huge part of Samira's lore is that shes a shuriman refugee. Although she still is proud of her shuriman heritage she has adopted noxus as her home and thus her gameplay and most of her design largely resemble noxus. Her personality and different accessories are influenced by whats happened to shurima and shuriman culture, like how what happened to shurima and the ascended directly influenced how samira view authority and following authority figures.
@@davernfrazierjr3307 that makes more sense. Although I still believe her attitude is more suited for the likes of bilgewater since mercenaries and bounty hunters are very common there vs noxus where there’s more a sense of nationalistic pride
Most of the characters were designed before lore was even fleshed out or even created. The lore and the characters are extremely flexible and riot has no issues with retconning.
They need more champions like Ezreal. He's practically a perfect champion because he has a relatively low skill floor and a high skill ceiling. I think giving every champion a high skill ceiling is completely fine, and probably even good for the game, but making a large amount of new champions with high skill floors isn't. Not to say they shouldn't be made at all, but, like you said, not everyone wants every new champ for their role require so much learning and memorization to even play somewhat correctly. This last year, we have had a good mix of both low and high skill floor champions; Sett, Volibear, and Seraphine had low skill floors, Fiddlesticks, Lillia, and Rell had medium skill floors, and Yone and Samira had high skill floors. Of course, we also have Viego, who is seeming to be another medium-ish skill floor champion. As for the lore segment, I do not actually mind having champions from certain regions be different from the thematics of that region, as long as the thematics of the new champion itself are well crafted, and I do not think they even really break the boundaries of the themes they make for each region, but more or less just stretch them to be more inclusive under a larger net theme. Samira still has a bit of ruthlessness and a lust for power (specifically just to show it off), but also included bits of roguishness and general badassery. I agreed with most of what you said, but I do not blame Riot for making champs that might seem unorthodox for their region. They most likely just want to keep the game fresh by making champs as unique as possible, even if it means breaking a few rules. Except for Seraphine, she is something completely different.
I think Lilia does fits into being both a low skill floor and high ceiling champion Super easy to pickup, but takes time to nail the W, kite with Q and snipe long range E for carries
I think of the twenty most popular champions in China, 15 of them are humanoid. So that’s why riot is releasing more sexy thighs or six pack champs because more sexual market value = more sales for skins. No one buys ornn skins :(
agreed i would love more monster or bestial champions. That isnt yordle related. Hell, give me an old woman champ. Kind of tired of Pretty boy and pretty girl champs they've been dishing out. Most recent example is viego. For being an wrathful undead king. He look like he came out of a abercrombie and fitch model shoot.
Her entire getup just screamed bilgewater to me. But nope! She's from Shurima (it seems Shurima is the "Africa" of Runeterra) and later went over to Noxus.
Samira is from Shumira originally. She's a traveling bounty hunter who's skills are a combination or the hard Shumiraian desert and the cutthroat Noxian lifestyle. I don't think it's explained but we can assume she has the kickass sword and guns from her adventures across the lands. She even has a voice line where she goes "Born in Shumira, raised in Noxus, maybe ill die in Demacia" showing that she's fairly well traveled. I think her having the guns despite not being from Piltover makes sense
@@boogrs55 Bonk! Haha look up Rework Garen.exe by keisat, it's probably the best league .exe video out there and he has a sick frying pan fight at the end
Rell and Sylas both represent the negative aspects that come from their region, while Demacia discriminates against mages and wishes to suppress them Noxus wants to exploit their power for military advantage. Samira and Rell are in direct contrast to each other as Rell basically had her life ruined by the cutthroat society and pursuits of power that Noxus creates as she was trained to be a weapon from childhood, while Samira was able to use that same system as a way to provide for her family by being a soldier and later on a mercenary. Something that connects them is that Leblanc is watching both of them from the shadows.
I personally think Zoe fits quite well! She's the aspect of things like chaos, twilight, and foretelling. She's giggly and annoying because she's literally chaos. The Aspects are usually just prissy uptight people (think Taric, he's kinda full of himself). While Zoe is definitely full of herself, she brings this unusual wholesomeness to leagues otherwise dark story, while also having some demons herself (Fiddlesticks key and the hidden details that she accidentally kills mortals a lot) Her sleep kinda feels in character for her too, at least to me. She's the type of person to prank a sleeping person by doodling on their face. Of course she'd wanna make someone go to sleep to give her an advantage!
I disagree complex champions are hard to use or understand. Its about how that complexity is implemented sett, jhin, kled, all have long passives and abilities, yet you can understand what they are about after seeing someone playing them just once because most of the complexity is numeric, or does not significantly affect you understanding. Samira and especially aphelios on the other hand, are hard to understand because you can watch many games with them and still not completely grasp what they do. Even then, Samira is still pretty undestandable.
Aatrox imo is one of the best champs gameplay-wise, he may need some balancing in strength, but the gameplay is fun, skill-expressive, it has counterplay etc.
Aatrox has a wonderful kit! It's one of those champions where, if you don't respect him he will completely trash your team. But if you know exactly how to exploit him he's practically useless.
I agree with you about complex champs but I love exploring all the champs I can play against, understanding their mechanics and abilities (got into the game a month ago), finding their strengths, weaknesses, different strategies to counter them. For me it is a very important part of gameplay
I don't want to be nitpicky but old Akali and old Irelia where just the same - no counterplay stat check dash on you and hit you machines. I hate the new ones too, but jsut wanted to mention that their "simple" kits back then, were just as dumb. Irelia - Q at someone, activate W Hiten Style for 75 on hit true dmg, point'n click E for slow, shoot R to heal a bit and hope your stats are high enough. Old Akali did basicly the same.
I just started playing Qiyana, was a bit intimidated about her kit but after many games I love playing her. I think mastering a complicated character is part of the fun and gives you an advantage.
The thing about Seraphine is that I feel like they did the skin and then said "oh, why not a champion like this?" But didn't really get her out of K/DA Universe
I absolutely agree. It's a solid analysis. If they just took one year off of pumping out champs and just focused on putting care into the champs they already have the game would be much better.
You forgot to point out that Ionian champions are for the most part very technical in nature alongside having unique gameplay patterns. Their gameplay reflects this a lot, with some of them being some of the most mechanicaly intensive champs in the game (Irelia, Zed, Akali, Yasuo, etc.)
IMHO, Samira is incredibly well designed & connects to Shurima & Noxus pretty well. Her outfit is based on Noxus, her tattoos are Shuriman. Her lore, voice acting & showmanship tie her visuals together. I would argue that the first two phases of the LoL world IP were worse than what we have now. Gameplay is an issue for many new champions, so can't say anything there.
her outfit has the noxian red-black-grey color scheme, but it's accented with gold to represent shurima. its wonderfully done, people just dont wanna acknowledge visual design.
And then there is Viego from lore point he is great but from kit in game he really deserves the title ruined king or the new king of bugs. I mean at some point he was able to delete the game.
@@V2ULTRAKill Yeah, he's kinda full of himself. He'd totally want his mist body to be super hot. He's kinda like a more emo Rakan, except his Xayah died.
I've been playing for 11 years and I agree with a lot of what u have said. But I think there is one more factor that runs paralel to ur points: The sheer lack of general ability in a vast percentage of the players only gets compounded or maginifed by increasingly diffuicult champs. I've watched bad players do stupid things with the simplest champ ... So when u add layers of difficulty then games spiral out of hand in mere minutes.
For me, the only problem with Seraphine is that her clothes doesn't scream plitover/zaun. The stage does make her look stiff and all, but it is part of her lore. If you've read it, her platform doesn't only amplify her songs but is a form of transportation from plitover to zaun & vice versa, in order for her to perform in both cities. In game, we can see that her stage is also a form of transportation and where all her abilities come out, which basically ties her lore and gameplay. Just like Ezreal's gauntlet or Caitlyn's rifle, we can say that it is her weapon, a hextech powered stage that amplifies sounds.
You hit the nail on the head on how I feel about league since about season 5 ish. I don't care at all about the lore in multiplayer games, but all the rest pretty much perfectly encapsulates how I feel about it. One aspect I think you brushed over is the counterplay aspect. There are several of the newer champs and reworks where there is no inherent weakness whatsoever in their kits. The counterplay to these champions is simply to be better at the game than they are. This is a really stark contrast to the design of olden league, where almost all champion kits have clearly defined weaknesses you can exploit. Early days of league was more like a strategy game, while league the past few years have transitioned into more a quake 3 type of gameplay. Outplay is replacing counterplay at an accelerating rate, and champions without outplay tools become more and more obsolete.
Become more and more obsolite? At the time you made that comment FUCKING SKARNER was the best jungler in soloq AND FUCKING UDYR was the best jungler in proplay FUCKING SION is the best tank in the game right now and the 2 best junglers are MORGANA AND FUCKING RUMBLE These new "outplay" champions are getting replaced by older simpler champions Because the new champions all have the exact same weakness, one of their abilities is a death sentence if your team is half coordinated and they arent a god Yone's E Gwen without her W is a worse fiora The ONLY role where newer champions are dominant right now is adc
"Champions only have one passive, one ultimate ability and so on" Champions now have passives on their abilities that are more and more powerful. And then you have viego, who has ALL the abilities...
I actually disagree with kai’sa and neeko, I think both of their lore is good and they fit in, not from the outside but once you read the lore it really fits. Imo
Neeko does make sense, but Kaisa is wasted potential. I love playing her, but she looks pretty boring. How cool would it be if she came out of the void corrupted like Kassadin or something like that.
@@theodorluminshield4367 I agree it could’ve been better but what I was saying is that the lore is good and still makes sense, people still think she’s a disgusting creature (read her short story). She still has some corrupted marks like the ones on her neck so face. Also it’s likely that the void creature attached to her prevents her from being totally corrupted although that is just my little head cannon
The fundamental issue is not knowing what to do against a champ; Older champions are easier to understand in the sense that they have clear strong & weak moments. A lot of the new & complex champions don't feel like they do (even though they obviously do). When Ezreal blinks in you know you have a few seconds to all-in him rather than reflexively backing away. Illaoi makes you feel like even when she's in a weak moment she's still strong. Samira feels like she's always got 3 answers to counter play. Aphillios feels like he can counter any scenario. More & more champions are starting to feel like an easier to run Invoker from DotA w/out the punishment for mistakes.
Idk what elo you're playin at but aside from illaois hitbox indicators being wrong shes REALLY non threatening if you dont walk into her e like a clown Same goes for a lot of new champs they all have bery exploitable weaknesses, zoe's portal jump, yones soul, gwens....everything once her w is down
Fun fact, during his creation the dev team wanted him to have 30 FUCKING WEAPONS (no kidding) I think that the creation them and the programing and balancing teams doesn't care about each others opinion lmao
I really enjoy the simple but complex kits in the game. Stuff like oriana's multipurpose ball, tahm kench's eating stacks, ezreals's e blink, all of these make really fun things to base their kits around. Thats not to say complex kits don't have their place in the game, if done right they can be really fun to play with like lee sin. But the more abilities you add, the harder it is to balance the champion. Azir is probably a perfecf example, his kit is just overloaded, being able to poke, stay safe, have one of the best movement abilities in the game, and a game changing ult in team fights is just too much to put on one champion. It can make it feel like he has no counterplay or that he has an answer for everything you do. Thats something that I think they've mostly avoided since then, but samira and akali continue to question whether or not they actually learned.
It’s funny, because as an Azir main he has so much utility and there are so many options he has one of the most enjoyable kits ive ever played, but he has been nerfed so hard numerically to account for this that he’s extremely weak for the first 20 minutes of a game. Recent champs are honestly more overloaded from a purely “how much they do” perspective. Viego has a dash, cc, invisibility, untargetability, a blink, an execute, mana regen, stats buff in smoke, etc, and then there’s his bloody passive. Honestly, it makes Azir’s kit seem almost simple. Azir has no cc, a long dash that has to be used extremely carefully because it has a 20 second cool down with no back up options, and a passive that is generally only up 1-3 times per game. Azir is certainly busted in the right hands but I literally went 26 5 9 in my 3rd ever game of Yasuo and similarly well on Viego. They can do so much and their stats are fine, and I’m beginning to not see the point in investing another 40 hours in Azir when he’s more difficult for worse stats
Rito employee : so I had this really cool idea for a monster-like champ- Rito:imma stop you right there Other rito employee: so basically sona , but she's hot Rito:perfection
Look at the favorite champions from the Chinese player base. See that close to 50% of the players are Chinese. They release "pretty humanoid" champions...
@@Flynnick yeah , thats my point, I'd love to see some more cool design monster champs but in China all they care about is objectively hot champions e.g. ahri , and look at the newish champs , sett , hot , kaisa , hot , sera , hot , viego , hot etc . Even the newer 'monster' champs are hot (neeko, lillia)
@@James-ow7ek no its not china's fault its riot the one to be blame . The reason they are underrated because riot gives them a lot of boring kits that are not fun to play and give the cool ones to the female and other human champs . look at aurelion i think he is more fitting to weild senna's ult but nooo , riot decided to give him a purple fart that pushes enemies. like fuck there are tons of furries and monster fuckers on the lol community who are willing to spend money if riot makes one. You see we asians love mythical creatures and fairy tales and most of us still believe on those but sadly we asians are always getting the blame if riot and other companies release hot girl characters because people think we are hungry for asses and boobs . I just wish riot explore new character races and creature designs because we love mythical creatures as much as we adore pretty women haha
I think, the problem is not about the champions being too overloaded. The problem is that they don't bring anything new. Every new champion has abilities and mechanics that already exist in League of Legends. Let's look at champions that were released years ago, like Pyke, Rek'Sai, Aurelion Sol, Ivern, Illaoi, Kai'sa, Zoe and etc. Every single one of them brings something new to the game, so they have their PERSONALITY and UNIQUENESS , with no "stolen" abilities from other champions. And now look to new champions like Seraphine, Yone, Samira, Lilia etc, no-one brings anything new to the game. They didn't add any new mechanics or playstyle.
They literally could've made seraphine into a singer who died and was revived through technology and is now a hologram of some sort that'll be so much better
Oh! I was thinking what if she wanted to be a singer but can't sing? Then, she decides to build a machine that auto tunes her singing. But people found out about this and disliked her for it and calls her "faker" and other things. She then tries to practice singing with her own voice but destroys it with poor and excessive practice. Devastated, she eventually turns back to her machine and writes songs to express her feelings as well as reach out to others who may be hurt.
Actually, I think you have a good point about champion design. Not every single player has a super-brain because it has limitation of how much it can process and think. And the one thing that urges me is that Riot seem to shy away from the casual-friendly aspects of the game, to a more competitive (if not toxic) environment which makes the game incredibly unforgiving if you didn't pull of a great wombo-combo for example. I also agree that most of the recent champions who don't fit into the world of Runeterra (looking at you Seraphine), were created out of real-world influences like Yuumi (because of cat memes), Set (because he looks like a Jojo character) and Samira (because she DEFINITELY looks like a Devil May Cry character). I would be fine with these unique designs, if it they have some significance to the world of Runeterra. Sett as a pit-fighter underneath the Ionian undergrounds, why not. Yuumi who's a magical cat from Bandle City, okay. Samira for being a daredevilish noxian militarist who's blood-origin is from Shurima, we can go with that. But then we have Seraphine who is a straight rip-off of Sona, has a lore that tells nothing about her association with Piltover's steampunk innovation and Zaun's creativity for survival, has a design that looks eerily too similar a Star Guardian skin who performs Pop-music. I think Riot really needs to adress these issues as soon as possible, instead of leaving them as an afterthought.
Every new champion has some kind of mobility boost, and thus makes every old champion that much more obsolete. They've toyed with removing flash for many years but will never do it because it would instantly make a quarter of the roster useless.
Oh that's true woops! Though I feel like he's not so much a gun champion because it's only dismounted Q. The gun thing was mostly just to show how out of place Samira is relative to the other Noxians. Kled also has the same militaristic sense of conquering that Darius and Mordekaiser has, which is why I think he still makes sense, even though he's super goofy.
14:36 As someone relatively new to the game, the sum of Samira's passive for me was: using her abilities gives a speed buff, and she uses melee in melee and shoots from a distance :D
samira is from shurima and her motives are really really thought out.Her story is really good and she fits PERFECTLY in the lore.I do agree with your main point of view but you should really do some research.
@@VarsVerum this is highly commendable and you sir just made me subscribe.Not only your content is good but you look forward to make it even better.I hope you achieve greatness, dude.
This actually shows an issue with old champion design, imo. Old champs were caricatures and the regions of Runeterra were one dimensional and fit into specific categories with little leeway, Riot is trying to add nuance to the world, it doesn't always work but for most of the new champs I can guess their regions. Seraphine, Yuumi, Neeko and Qiyana are the main ones I may forget what their region is.
To be honest I didn't read samira's lore, but her theme immediately told me that she's from bildewater. So you just shocked me by saying she's from noxus. She looks entirely like someone who would be gankplank's rival, like a female captain
For me, all started with the Tencent company forcing all these decisions on Riot,take a look at Mobile Legends designs(Seraphine being the biggest example)
Riot literally announced they were going to focus more on champions for gameplay first and lore second just before Samira got released... And the champions since have been first designed around their kit and then lore second.
Gameplay should always be first and lore and aesthetics second. As a huge Runeterra lore fan, I know how much a good story can not only elevate a champion but also the universe they inhabit. But I cannot agree with the philosophy to design a champion around a region. Another thing, stories that don't fit your mold of the region aren't inherently bad. It can explore aspects of the region that you previously never knew it had, expanding the world. Take Sett, one of your examples. His existence open up such a huge can of worms for Ionia that was never explored previously. Not only do we have the Navori Brotherhood and the Order of Shadow that spawned from the war, but there now is also a bustling criminal underworld. It shows that some Ionians are adopting Noxus culture, keeping the barbaric fighting pit that once belonged to the enemy, demonstrating that Ionia isn't all spiritual and enlightened as we once thought.
@@xavmarz755 they are not only lazy, also lame and manipulative. Saying that they sacrificed the National dex for quality textures and animations was a blatant lie.
@@rodrigokuszek I think it's rather presumptuous of you to go on telling others that they're lazy or whatnot. Incompetent? Maybe. But to call someone lazy? That's rather uncalled for. Imagine how it'd feel if you worked on one of your favourite game franchises, and not only could you not fit in all the features because of deadlines/investors and whatnot, but also they called you lazy. That'd hurt me to be honest. I feel like that's rather rude of you.
@@thewitchcoven well i'm pretty sure their employees are not lazy, they do be crunched. But their philosophy make it seem that way. They are re-using old assets from sun and moon and they have the audacity to lie in front of us. Everything is from scratch they said
@@rodrigokuszek imagine you NEED to created a game in a year span because there is so much money coming from goodies, cards, anime show that you’re basically forced to release content on a just-in-time basis. I’ve been pretty disappointed by the last 2 generations of Pokemon, but considering the fact that Game Freaks still works just like a small company (Despite producing the biggest franchise ever), I understand they use these kind of tricks to gain time (this lie part tho is clearly unprofessional and a big letdown)
This may be a stretch but, is it me, or is there a heavy correlation between "e-girl" champs and champs that just dont fit? (yuumi, seraphine, zoe?) the overly cutesy ones..
Now that you think abt it yes it's true it's prb bc 70 percent of this community is from china and korea where cute stuff gets more attention and when you look on the other hand like monster champs like trundle,ww and rek sai they just fall short I mean the last monster champ riot made is fucking ornn my point is: RELEASE MORE MONSTER CHAMPIONS GOD DAMNIT
seraphine could have easily been a siren from the lakes under mount targon, have amazing lore connections with nami but they didn’t really wasted potential
That's actually an amazing udea
Petition to immediately rework her into this
I think most of the community will be fine with deleting her current form from existence
@@proxi315 yesss delete sera
@@proxi315 not the ones who spent 40$ on her ultimate skin xD.
@@saegemh her ultimate skin is fine, skin lines dont have to keep in line with their lore anyway, the idea of a siren with a skin which makes her a popstar really works
Neeko has an excuse in my opinion because her lore expands the lore of Vastayan, who needed a bit more of it.
Yes, and I think that she with her lore belongs pretty well into Ionia, also she expands lore of other champs
Yea but design and attitude wise she's more of a showoff then someone in touch with nature or spiritual
@@javierrivera5834 Neeko cast magic on you!! Pew pew
@@tree4126 She's ixtal actually. It kinda makes sense, since ixtal is like runeterra's version of the amazon rainforest or at least a deep jungle like theme, and neeko, like most creatures in rainforests, is pretty exotic, vibrant, and mystifying in a way.
@@javierrivera5834 i mean neither is rakan or xayah and they, along with neeko are litterally made from spiritual energy plus neekos abilities are litterally called pop blossom and blooming burst and she is colorful and vibrant just like nature so i think she gets a pass
Kai'sa should have ptsd and self control issues. She gives off mary sue vibes. She lived in some hellish nightmare-scape and probably had to eat void things, is part voidling, and seems completely unphased, like she went back to her hometown from college.
it’s crazy that a multi million dollar company with a entire team behind design still can’t figure out how to please both sides
Just make it a hot monster girl, pleases the Chinese, and fits the lore
@@lessgetit4841 Rek'Sai is still hotter anyway
@@Soliye. The true and only queen of the Void
@@lessgetit4841 what's crazy is that you think companies care to "please both sides"
Seraphine is so different because they literally went "pop idols are popular so lets make one" so they made the champion outside League of legends, with her instagram and music, and then they tried to implement her in the game.
Yeah pretty much and the worst part was that thing with the hextech crystals they cared and understood so little that made her look like a psychopath
@@manueltun7935 literally when i saw her i was like this is so dumb and they clearly made her so they could like give her a music video or something
@@bbh3617 Which they did to appeal to the Chinese market.
I think Sera would have fit better if they just said she's from our world and was brought to Runeterra. Or make her another quirky Targonian like Zoe. But I think the first idea would make more sense and be more acceptable. I still like her, but if she were to be removed I honestly wouldn't feel the difference
I haven't read her lore, but I just had nothing against her, because I assumed everyone from Pilltower and Zaun is bat shit insane. There's literally a rat with a trenchcoat, giant hairball with a wrench and laser guns, anarchist with a minigun whoose abilities sound like sexual innuendos "GET EXCITED", a goo version of sandman, Hulk, steampunk sniper, pink hair girl with power fists and a Orcs Must Die ripoff. A teenage girl who shoots people with an extravagant music tune doesn't stand out tbh. That part of Runeterra is just insane on a fundamental level.
I think narratively Sett kits serve his purpose in Ionia, his whole character is about not fiting in (not being accepted in Ionia as a son of an enemy Noxian, not being accepted by humans/vastyas as halfbreed between). So his kit does not fit the Ionian ideal of spirituality and fluidity but borrows the Noxian ideals of power and aggression, things that Ionia do not know or crave before the Noxian invasion.
I haven't read into sett's background thoroughly enough but being a interracial child was a good way to showcase the brutishness yet subtlety of his character.
Compared to the other bruisers he is the most boring tho
@@charger2991 On the contrary I think sett is very cool and interesting
@@Yrm1e I agree. I find Sett much more interesting than, say, Sion or Darius who are your run of the mill D&D/ MMO tropes. Sett's backstory and playstyle is unique enough to counterbalance the Jo Jo references, even if his shield still needs to be nerfed. His addition builds the world, involving magic vs spirituality, Noxus, Ionia, Human and Vastayan relationships, not to mention the black market and extension of fighting pits (in Ionia of all places), neatly tying back to Draven/ Riven and that pre-established world history. Sett may not be the most original champ aesthetically, until you look at him from a story perspective (as well as realize just how much of his "coat" is actually fur). He looks and plays like an anime pretty boy cuz references, but he's so much more than that when you do any research into who he is as a character/ champion.
Man, now my inner fangirl wants an Inuyasha vs Sett discussion for best beast boy bastard...
Ina wins by a landslide
Having looked more into Samira's background at the behest of several comments, I stand corrected in my assessment of her background and inclusion as a Noxian. While from a backstory stance my perspective has shifted, I still stand by my points about her overloaded kit in gameplay. Sett as well, I had him listed as a champion that felt inserted awkwardly into the game, but his background as a half noxian half Ionian makes a lot of sense in the grand scheme of things. And yes, Kled has a gun, though it's not really his main weapon of choice so much as it is just (as the name implies) a pocket pistol. Just wanted to apologize for my myopic stance on it at the time of making the video. I'll be sure to be more thorough next time!
Well Kai'sa is kassadins daughter which is a big lore drop for the void when that happened and zoe is big point in darkins aatrox lore with a bunch of targon and all the other champs also had big story points they all have made the only move forward. ONLY one that has never made a big story point or move the story forward is seraphine she had next to 0 lore and they kinda got forced to put her out for the next song / skin line. Over priced stuff and many other things that werent ok which was called out at the time and shut down mostly just a weird cash grab looking situation . Which the only champ id say fits for this entire video is seraphine the rest dont really fit since so much lore came out of all of comics to that were really good and showed more of the world advanced the story a ton and showed way more of the characters personality's what there doing now present day all that and you get 0 of that with seraphine. Yummi master might currently be the one helping with the ruined king and over half of these characters in this video have been know in the lore like samira just we never got any hard info on them tell they just got released tell later . Kayn lores mixes with zed ,shen, kayn , jhin to much lore to explain all these champs but you might want to look into all of them and there comics so you can see why they are all here same since most of these have more then 4 to 6 storys in the lore and advancing the story and world.
Watching that part of the video made me cringe at first because you said "Yes, a champion could move from one region to another"
Kaisa is from shurima and was corrupted by the void.
Been watching a lot of your videos last 2 days since I found them. Just wanted to say that I'm glad I found you, and good on you for owning up to small errors in this vid.
@@jaredolsen5143 with these types of videos you have to be prepared to. Opinions are always wrong in some way :)
This is why Lillia is praised for her kit. Its clear and to the point and didn't introduce anything new and insane.
Lillia was surprisingly well designed gameplay wise!
yeah just as long so you arent a tank or juggernaut in wich case you never get to interact with her
@@randommordekaisermain9342 unless you are lethality sion
Yeah and also part of the reason why the game's popularity is declining. They just keep on releasing these "fullclear to 6" jungle champions, while the most fun ones don't even have a lvl 6 ability or have 2 forms (Elise, Nidalee, Lee Sin, Udyr).
lillia has well defined strenghts, and well defined weaknessed. Most new champions are just a frontload of strenghts, with little weaknesses until riot nerfs them into the ground
Yeah ngl before watching this I actually thought Samira was a scavenger/bounty hunter from shurima like sivir
She is shuriman so....she just happened to have a family that migrated and did shows and tricks for money.
That’s exactly what she was before she moved to Noxus, lmao.
@@HelloCompanion i see, I never really read Samira's lore thats why I was confused when he mentioned noxus
She really looks like shes from Bilgewater..... I really thought she was
@@komododragon7619 i thought she was from bilgewater too!
I was super excited when we got the wind that Kassadin's daughter is making her champion debut, I thought to myself how would she look like after surviving in the void for so long, would she still be human but changed like Kassadin? or did she changed into a more grotesque monster like how Reksai and Kogmaw is, nope, just a hot chick with a tight skin suit that shoots void rockets from a floating shoulder cannon, needless to say, my dream of having a more diverse void champion died that day, and Riot doesn't like making monster champions.
Agreed , I like how she took the suit and it became part of her and she became a hunter etc but I agree that the should've looked more void-y? Maybe some grotesque features like morphed arms or something else instead of a hot girl in a suit
@@James-ow7ek She actually reminds me of D.Va from Overwatch out of the mech. Same suit style
@@jaredolsen5143 yeah , kinda disappointing imo
when I first saw Kai'Sa i legit thought she was just a chick in a suit, i was surprised when I learned that she fell into the void. she's too human.
the monster skins dont make money rip
i fuckin love the monster designs and with the new fiddle it shows they CAN pump out good ones but ya know
doesnt make as much money so they are left to rot
To me the biggest problem with new champions is that they want to be everything. Usually champions excel at one thing and u could class them into 1 category, however a lot of recent champions go to much into other classes and that makes them very hard to balance. Take Aphelios for example, both an utility marksmen and a hypercarry marksmen, add some healing too, something that was a big no no in a marksmen kit. Then take a look at Yummi, usually enchanters have 1 big drawback, being easy to kill if they dont position right or if they get flanked, but Yummi doesnt need to think about that.
@@galio7741 but is also harder to balance, because every class should have a certain weakness specific to that class. If u start to merge classes, its a bit harder to keep those weaknesses open. Tell me, a diverse champion like Aphelios was fun to play against? The sustain, dps, utility ADC?
@@galio7741 dude
@@galio7741 such a backwards way of thinking
@@galio7741 this said everything about it, u dont care about balance, so there's nothing else to add.
Perfectly balancedn't, as all things shouldn't be
I remember when Lee Sin was added and we all thought he was like, the epitome of skill and had such an overloaded kit.
Oh boy we never saw it coming.
You couldnt even imagine the 200 years to come
@@V2ULTRAKill i couldnt ever imagined akshan would come out. a champion that can get an assist go respawn allies.
@@etmon. it’s such bullshit when it happens late game too
Neeko was literally designed as a fish out of water archetype, she's from a far away island no one from mainland Valoran has seen. She's designed to stick out on purpose.
Riot when designing virgo:
- We will design a champion from shadow isles which is currupted
Also riot:
*Proceeds to release a champion that actually can corrupt the game* - totally within the character theme 👌
The ruined king came with bug friends we have: LoL.exe stopper, invispooky time, 500 Ability Haste, and of course infinity money
viego caused league for me to have fps drops and i have a decent pc
I'd assume he'd be even more threatening looking and monstrous than morsekaiser, but nope, he's just a eboy who's simping for his death wife
im a virgo also
@@PoemFoot honestly makes him jnique in the shadow isles, only issue i have with this is everyone else has this hot boy thing
Still hes a good villain and him being hot due to his insane narcissistic unhealthy relationship tendencies makes sense, dude sees himself as a protag
And besides we already have mordekaiser, but we need more monsterous shadow isle shit still, also tbh Mordekaiser is just as much of a whiny bitch as viego
At this point, Riot should really stop creating new champions for a while, it's too overcrowded and they are getting really weird and overloaded. They should, instead, rework all the champions that actually need it in order to bring them to the same standards new champions have. You know, better models, better skills, that sort of thing. Stoping champion creation will make for better reworks too, and they could also source some of these people for the skin team, since they are still creative oriented developers and can really boost the skin quality of ideas and such. With more people working on more skins, Riot makes more money, that they can divert into more skins and the rework efforts, possibly other things in the company too.
Riot doesn't make as much money with champions as they do with skins, so it makes much more sense to update older champions in order to make their playerbase bigger, allow new skins to be produced and be easier to accomodate to those characters, and most importantly, whenever a new champion does show up, it will be a more refined champion, and probably have the benefit of hype with it.
I really like that idea but a lot I mean ALOT of people would hate it because there is nothing new to the game and we dont want another Akali or Aatrox in our hands. (old mains getting sad that their champ is gone and they have to deal up with the new ones) Irelia is one that changed 70% of her old kit but the new one is like an upgraded version of the old one that's why we did not hear (GIVE US OUR MAIN BACK) at all.
@@sinasona1229 I agree, but I also think most of the champions that run that risk are already reworked in that way. Riot should really just update slightly the champions that need it after concluding all reworks (like udyr, shyvana etc).
The idea that the game won't feel fresh if we don't have nothing new is odd to me, because we have a lot of champions that people can try out (if not already) and riot can spice it with rotations modes, tweaks to items and all. Not having new champions would finally let a meta set down for more than a patch or two, and even then they still can change numbers to avoid champions breaking the game.
I think they should grab some old champions and give them new passives that are more inline with recent champions. We don't need essays as passives, but there champions that could use some more help. For instance, Nasus passive could be moved to his Q, and he could get a new one to either help his stacking gameplay or fighting potential (more movespeed, for instance). Stuff like that
They honestly should also rework old skins. Like for example stuff like caterpillar Kogmaw
Thats the problem with LOL nowadays...if they're gonna make a new character then how bout use that character as a swap skin--instead of a separate new champion....! take for example Seraphine could just be a character costume swap for Sona instead. (like Christie Monteiro and Eddy Gordo used to be) and now adding up more champions would only overshadow the rest of the cast that some people grew attached to like they weren't been there by the community.
I remember when LoL was a way waaay smaller game, they made a survey, if people want more champs or more fixing and balancing, people voted champions.
Which lead to Azir, when he came out it had so much bugs they had to pull him until they fixed the copious amount of bugs.
After that they slowed down on champions.
We would really need that slow down again.
But people want new things, thats what keeps a large amount of people still playing.
0:45 illaoi was complicated back then? Man things have changed
Unique is a better term. She was never complicated. Zed was once considered complex though.
@@hellfrozenphoenix13 be a good zed is kinda complex, with all this armor and zonyas everywhere
@@ogabrielsabadin that's not what complex means, that's a sign of being countered. The armor and Zhonya's is a counter. But Zed himself, as in mechanics, used to be considered complicated. Now, he is kind of basic compared to most champions. A sign of the changing of times.
@@hellfrozenphoenix13 oh, i see, the shadow copying and switching use to be confusing, got it
@@ogabrielsabadin exactly :)
ehm sorry "Samira, only character in Nexus with a gun." no Kled has his shotgun.
Yeah, A cluncky, inaccurate with short range shotgun. While Samira has an arsenal of rapid reload guns
@@loatist from noxus
The balls are so big tho, they are more bomb launchers tbh
Still, when I look at her it alway end up for me. Why the hell she isn't from Bilgewater. Pirate looking check, gun and sword check, can start a fight in bar check. Nothing from her feel Noxius unlike Kled
@@autistictyranitar414 Gun is a gun
Let me know when we stop getting anime protagonist looking champions and get something more grotesque and imperfect.
Fiddle 😶
Sett is pretty cool imo. But I would like some more Void-monster Champions too
Unless tencent sells the company, probably wont happen. reworks are your best bet.
Riot: "LiLiA iS a MoNsTeR cHaMpIoN!"
@@tendericed2749 You predicted it my dude
Do yourself a favor: just don't count Sera when talking about Region continuity. The heads of Riot saw how popular kda was and demanded the creative teams find a way to force a popstar rather than a bard with a kda release skin into. That's literally why she exists. Her original inception was not designed to add to Piltover or Zaun
It's Belle Delphine so the e-girl simps buy her skins.
Sera is not canon, change my mind
Seraphine was supposed to release before Lillia though, but they delayed her release because they saw her as a good opportunity for a new K/DA member and that's why they were able to start her promotion so early. One Rioter talked about it on reddit
@@thebluefog8261 Well then you could just chalk it up to Kpoop being incredibly popular right now. It's the same shit
@@admiralbyrd7047 son it's a fictional character, it's not that bad
Sett was one good release
Super simple but sastisfying to play and unique, however his initial numbers was too high making him OP in his first days
Meh he's pretty clunky and feels sluggish to me
@@elminsteraumar9133 same with Morde, Darius and Garen
They take a beating but once they get to you they just bonk your face
@@angpham941 Darius has the whole Noxian Might thing where you get momentum so its pretty fun (atleast to me)
@one one I DO NOT TOLERATE COWARDICE
You'll either love or hate Sett that's what I got from playing the game, I love Sett while my friend hate him
The problem with the new champions is that they usually have mechanics that remove their own counterplay and some of them straight up make some older champions obsolete.
Like (no accurate number) 90% of champs released nowadays has some form of immunity, Yone can actually completely negate Malzahar R with his R (maybe even Q?), we have windwalls, shrouds, champion overtakings that make you immune etc.
Usually you would think that you counter mobility with cc, but when mobility has the tools to remove its own counterplay that feels dumb and it is a problem imo. And Riot has pretty much thrown out the rule book when it comes to new champions, that's their problem.
Yones ultimate gives him unstoppable, same thing with his e 2nd cast
@@Qeboflu the only things that should have that are things like malphite and sion ultimate.
Yone needs a rework is what you are saying and I 100% agree
One thing I'd like to add is that some of the new champs create the illusion of difficulty. At first glance and overloaded kit seems difficult, but upon closer inspection you realize that's surprisingly straight forward and the overloaded nature simply means the champs has a large amount of built in safety nets that save you from a poor play.
For the most part I agree, but if we're talking about all the champs he mentioned I think there are a few who are fairly difficult, like Zoe; who's pretty much entirely reliant on skillshots and has a ton of counters. She seems to be one of the more difficult champs to master (just from looking at her kit -- I've only played her once or twice in ARAM).
Aphelios.
6:43 that's a disgrace to Sailor Moon.
“You can do way more with addition and subtraction than you can with calculus or differential equations”
Every STEM person: “Nani?!”
One of the biggest dropped projects by RIOT was one that I really loved: the Darkin. In less than a year, we had Kayn released (7.12.17), Varus' lore update (11.30.17), and Aatrox's rework (6.21.18). Riot was following the storyline about them needing to find the 4th of 5 Darkin, located somewhere in Shurima.
Then, nothing.
There have been no updates on the storyline, no news articles, no decent AskRiot posts. Nothing. Only a mention of the Darkin in Vlad's new lore but nothing to progress or flesh out the story.
If Riot wants to add a great champ to the story line, there is so much set up already done and a great theme that Riot initially set up as the base story line at the beginning of the game.
Theyll get to it eventually
They theme their releases now for some reason
Man bro, you’re so right! I was so excited for at least a teaser then for an eventual release but it was radio silence, which sucks. I was so into the darkin story but its been a couple years since then.
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Honestly one of my favorite new releases has been Lillia. Her kit is interesting and thematically fits into her region. Her kit is also very simple and does take too much to under stand.
She also kind of borrows abilities from other champions but has a different playstyle and twist to it so it doesnt feel copy pasted into her kit.
her q is a darius q but is meant for kiteing.
her ult borrows zoe's sleep mechanic in a simple way.
her e is like the global ultimate with limitation.
and her w is just less damage outside cone high damage inside.
it all combines into a champion who is easy to understand and pick up while also having a lot of depth to her playstyle
I love Lilia shes one of my new favs. I got more into kiting because of playing her. Something I've struggled with for years.
Out of all the new champs i really like Lillia the most, she keeps it simple and still feels unique to Play and to Play against
And her accent is everything 👌🤌
Ah the old passives : attack faster when attacking and walk faster when walking ..m
Ah yes
The floor is floor
I main Aphelios, he's honestly one of my all time favorite champions not only in league, but dare I say in the entire moba genre. I love that he forces you to adapt to what you are given, as you have to play around your weapon rotation and combos you can pull out. I even made a manual for lots of different weapon rotations you can do, and it got some praise on r/ApheliosMains (someone even claiming that my document was revolutionary). His lore isn't that bad, and there's something oddly satisfying about Aphelios being mute - maybe because I'm autistic myself, so we both share some form of disability.
True, though being mute is a self-imposed disadvantage for Aphelios. He either drinks poison and loses the ability to feel pain and gets to talk to his sister or loses out on all the advantages of the poison even though the pain is excruciating. I love him though! He’s one of my favorite champions and him lacking a voice in battle makes it much more special to think about what he’s like when he isn’t on Noctum. I hope Riot does a voice reveal in a legendary skin one day haha
You made a manual for his weapons now props to you man, going have to read it after this video.
Yo can I get a link to the manual? It's been awhile and it's hard to find for some reason
This all makes perfect sense. The lore part actually hit me harder than the gameplay part.
Here’s the thing about Seraphine. I don’t think a piltie/zaunite musician as a concept is a miss, i just think the execution was bad. I don’t know why you don’t think the stage can be considered a gadget that gives piltover/zaun it’s identity. Maybe if she looked less pop idol-ish and more steampunk, or in zaun’s case, punk rock and instead of the stage they used a different gadget, she’d be fine imo
Exactly. She legit looks like she came right out of the star guardian universe. And considering (if I remember correctly) she initially lived in zaun, she could be such a good addition to the roster.
She would actually have some character development, overcoming poverty, trying not to hate pilties despite how easy it is zo blame them for the hard life of zaunites, and an endless amount of other options, instead of "oh no her ears hurt, here's a dead soul to help it and now go try to heal the world for no reason whatsoever"
I think her concept art with the orbs and whatnot was a FAR better implementation of the Piltover/Zaun thematic. It was more gadget-like and better representative of her theme than a random floating stage. The stage also has the side-effect ingame of making her feel incredibly stiff for as lively of a character as she is.
Imo the fact that her skills have to much similarities to Sona killed both Sona and Sera's identity
Like srsly who wants to play Sona now, given a better version of her is in the game
While I agree with you on most points, I would like to point out that Zoe does fit in the lore with Targon, and how Bard finally got a actual aspect. Zoe's ability's also fit with Bard. Her gameplay is ass tho. Also Ornn fits into the Frejord's lord because he is one of the three demigods. Everything else I agree with.
"explained in the lore" and "fits in the lore" aren't the same things. Yes, Zoe is an Aspect and is really X hundred years old and just showed up and all that, sure, that's what the lore is. But then you look at the actual character Zoe and the impression is '13 year old girl on a sugar high with an aesthetic from Lite-Brite'. The lore exists, the lore is written around the character and not integrated into the character.
That said, take this with a grain of salt, Targon's lore rework is actually what made me quit the game because I hate it so much so I ain't exactly unbiased here.
I agree. Zoe fits just fine in my opinion, as much as people (and I) find her annoying. The idea that there's an Aspect of Twilight goes with Leona and Diana imo, and with her voice lines about change and heralding changes fit well. I actually actively like the idea that in the "in between" time of twilight there's crazy stuff that can be going on (represented by her spell stealing) since that's a common motif in folklore of a few cultures and is in various media. It makes sense to me that she'd be very chaotic.
Also, unlike the other commenter, I don't think they shoehorned her in at all. Expanding on the universe while utilizing what's already there works imo, and that's what they did with Zoe just by filling in Twilight alongside Dawn/Day and Night. It didn't seem out of place at all, just expanded but still based on what's already established.
I also feel like I should mention that her and Aurelion Sol go well together, too, though I know he's debated as well.
(And no, I don't play Zoe and she annoys the heck out of me in game, but I think the general idea is neat.)
I don't think complicated is a bad thing as long as it fits into the lore. Take bard for example, he is really hard to master but his design and character is wonderful for runeterra. Not everything has to be simple because it is super fulfilling when you finally master a really difficult champion.
We have to agree that bard is a original character, samira is just another character with a gun/sword
the only unique design of Samira is her wearing a fucking eyepatch, that’s pretty much it. a big strong girl with a sword and a gun
@@lessgetit4841 exactly i see samira as a big meme its like a female garen its just so bland riot really did the bland character 13 years ago with garen and did now with samira
@@UmDevoto bruh, Garen is a generic warrior, Lux a generic mage, Ashe another archer with Ice, Alistar a regular minotaur, the list goes on from old Champions.
@@CelVini and the same goes for new champs, so what?
10:59 Kled has a pocket pistol. That counts as a gun, right :) ?
I think the champions that have been added recently seem so out of place or "wild" is because maybe Riot is setting up more story branches for even more characters to be introduced and further expand Runeterra.
Which is really stupid since they haven't even went super in depth with the existing regions
@@bevvvy1374 you're not wrong
i dont really agree with all the champion that you said feel out of the lore like samira or kai'sa and sett if you really read all the the lore you will see that they are inportant to link the regions between each others for example samira link shurimaand noxus and sett link ionia in a different way from kayn
ps: sorry for my english
janna is from zhaun btw and kai sa doesn't make sense if you consider malzahar and kassadin...
I have to disagree. While I do think Sett works as the type of rebel such a society can create (hes akin to the Yakuza, for a comparison), I think the other two are flawed. Samira screams Bildgewater, not Noxus. The story her character, her model, and personality tells is more like what you'd expect from Bildgewater mercenary who knows they are badass. The only reason I know shes from Noxus is because I read her lore, and that's an issue. While I disagree with the "champions should always reflect their region" idea, I do think they should at least show signs that stand out that they have traits from that region. Samira fails to do that imho.
Kai'sa makes no sense lore wise. Kassadin and Malzahar has established that entering the Void means you as re not the same coming out. While her "suit" is her change, it doesnt actually seem to corrupt her on the surface and, dare I say, looks just like typical fantasy clothing. If they showed simple lines that went in her skin, or her eyes being corrupt with energy, her skin tone being off and unnatural, or anything like that, her visual design would make sense. But to be honest, she was made hot because hot sales. sadly.
Neeko also gets a pass. She represents a whole new faction and frankly, she does so successfully so far.
@@hellfrozenphoenix13 kaisa and seena have the same problem that the consecuences dont show up. I mean years trapped by thresh and the only thing you get is some power and green eyes?
no bones showing no mental breackdowns nothing.
And the same goes for kaisa if they make her more like venom it would be fine but she just wear a suit
@@kikofernandez9184 false. The void has shown affect ones form, how it does so in that circumstances, and how it changes. Kai'sa breaks a pretty established rule. Senna's also shows how she is affected immediately. Her piercing eyes show the mist (hinted by Yorick to be the Shadow Isle souls), all of her holy power have dark elements to them (threshes lantern) and her mind state reflects that of someone who has realized she was drastically wrong.
Where Kai'sa was done wrong, senna was done right. Senna shows her changes up front, in a manner that matches her circumstances (she isnt "skeletal" because her soul was taken, not body. Therefore her soul would be affected, which it is) and by glance is clearly not a normal person.
@@hellfrozenphoenix13 kai’sa still feels the effects to the void she is just able to resist
Not gonna lie, without knowing the lore or anything, I assumed Samira was from Shurima.
She is
@@kjpowel9099 no one of her parents was
Born Shuriman raised in Noxus.
Me "Is she related to MF?"
I mean she is called the DESERT rose lol
I agree with a lot of these statements, but I gotta disagree on Samira, Neeko, and Sett. Other people have commented about Neeko and Samira, but Sett I feel is Ok in the game’s lore. He represents the dark side of Ionia, the fighting pits, which happened as a result of Noxus invasion. He wants to grow higher in the world to maybe confront his father about why he left the family. He’s half vastayan and half human which means he has a balance of both sides, Human’s dark nature and Vastayans wish for peace. Yeah, maybe he isn’t the BEST contender in story wise, but I think Sett is at least better than some characters like Seraphine. And I do agree about Kai’sa, although she ties to Kassadin’s story line, her lore doesn’t really make sense and it feels like that they designed her kit instead of designing her reason to be in the game in the first place.
But Sett's pants sucks, they doesn't fit Ionia or Noxus. Give him black and red or eastern style and I will be fine
At first I wanted to comnent that Samira comes from Shurima, so maybe he has some of her design from there, but then I realized that 7 of them are ancient tombmonster, and then Sivir and Taliyah left.
So I cant really think of a theme similar tho Samira
I think Samira was born in a village on the Noxian-Shuriman border. But she doesn't scream Shuriman to me either.
@@VarsVerum a huge part of Samira's lore is that shes a shuriman refugee. Although she still is proud of her shuriman heritage she has adopted noxus as her home and thus her gameplay and most of her design largely resemble noxus. Her personality and different accessories are influenced by whats happened to shurima and shuriman culture, like how what happened to shurima and the ascended directly influenced how samira view authority and following authority figures.
@@davernfrazierjr3307 that makes more sense. Although I still believe her attitude is more suited for the likes of bilgewater since mercenaries and bounty hunters are very common there vs noxus where there’s more a sense of nationalistic pride
@@VarsVerum i suppose so
@@VarsVerum bounty hunters fit noxus preatty well considering noxus is about battle and all
“No other gun champions in noxus literally not one”
Kled: do I mean nothing to you?
Most of the characters were designed before lore was even fleshed out or even created. The lore and the characters are extremely flexible and riot has no issues with retconning.
Rammus' lore was "noone knows who what or where he is/came from"
12:06 **puts on lore glasses**
Well, actually...
-takes out my belt-
They need more champions like Ezreal. He's practically a perfect champion because he has a relatively low skill floor and a high skill ceiling. I think giving every champion a high skill ceiling is completely fine, and probably even good for the game, but making a large amount of new champions with high skill floors isn't. Not to say they shouldn't be made at all, but, like you said, not everyone wants every new champ for their role require so much learning and memorization to even play somewhat correctly. This last year, we have had a good mix of both low and high skill floor champions; Sett, Volibear, and Seraphine had low skill floors, Fiddlesticks, Lillia, and Rell had medium skill floors, and Yone and Samira had high skill floors. Of course, we also have Viego, who is seeming to be another medium-ish skill floor champion. As for the lore segment, I do not actually mind having champions from certain regions be different from the thematics of that region, as long as the thematics of the new champion itself are well crafted, and I do not think they even really break the boundaries of the themes they make for each region, but more or less just stretch them to be more inclusive under a larger net theme. Samira still has a bit of ruthlessness and a lust for power (specifically just to show it off), but also included bits of roguishness and general badassery. I agreed with most of what you said, but I do not blame Riot for making champs that might seem unorthodox for their region. They most likely just want to keep the game fresh by making champs as unique as possible, even if it means breaking a few rules. Except for Seraphine, she is something completely different.
I think Lilia does fits into being both a low skill floor and high ceiling champion
Super easy to pickup, but takes time to nail the W, kite with Q and snipe long range E for carries
tbh dont u think Riot these day are just releasing human champion ? i missed champion like Ornn or Sol ;-;
I think of the twenty most popular champions in China, 15 of them are humanoid. So that’s why riot is releasing more sexy thighs or six pack champs because more sexual market value = more sales for skins.
No one buys ornn skins :(
@@VarsVerum F
agreed i would love more monster or bestial champions. That isnt yordle related. Hell, give me an old woman champ. Kind of tired of Pretty boy and pretty girl champs they've been dishing out. Most recent example is viego. For being an wrathful undead king. He look like he came out of a abercrombie and fitch model shoot.
@@VarsVerum I main Tahm Kench and Kled and all their skins suck. I'd buy the first decent one in a heartbeat
@@MrLuzakman marauder kled is pretty cool :o
10:46 wait...Samira is from Noxus??? That eyepatch had me thinking she was a pirate or something.
Her entire getup just screamed bilgewater to me. But nope! She's from Shurima (it seems Shurima is the "Africa" of Runeterra) and later went over to Noxus.
@@VarsVerumSo you play DMC too
Samira is from Shumira originally. She's a traveling bounty hunter who's skills are a combination or the hard Shumiraian desert and the cutthroat Noxian lifestyle. I don't think it's explained but we can assume she has the kickass sword and guns from her adventures across the lands. She even has a voice line where she goes "Born in Shumira, raised in Noxus, maybe ill die in Demacia" showing that she's fairly well traveled. I think her having the guns despite not being from Piltover makes sense
fun fact garens ult is just kayle dropping a bigass sword
Nah it's actually a huge frying pan bonking them. I learned that from Keisat
@@onlinealias622 "tho art too horny! I shall smitest ye with mine pan!"
@@boogrs55 Bonk! Haha look up Rework Garen.exe by keisat, it's probably the best league .exe video out there and he has a sick frying pan fight at the end
Rell and Sylas both represent the negative aspects that come from their region, while Demacia discriminates against mages and wishes to suppress them Noxus wants to exploit their power for military advantage.
Samira and Rell are in direct contrast to each other as Rell basically had her life ruined by the cutthroat society and pursuits of power that Noxus creates as she was trained to be a weapon from childhood, while Samira was able to use that same system as a way to provide for her family by being a soldier and later on a mercenary.
Something that connects them is that Leblanc is watching both of them from the shadows.
I wish they made Seraphine as a banshee. They could still fit her into K/DA if they wanted and I think she'll fit in the lore much better, I think.
I personally think Zoe fits quite well!
She's the aspect of things like chaos, twilight, and foretelling. She's giggly and annoying because she's literally chaos. The Aspects are usually just prissy uptight people (think Taric, he's kinda full of himself). While Zoe is definitely full of herself, she brings this unusual wholesomeness to leagues otherwise dark story, while also having some demons herself (Fiddlesticks key and the hidden details that she accidentally kills mortals a lot)
Her sleep kinda feels in character for her too, at least to me. She's the type of person to prank a sleeping person by doodling on their face. Of course she'd wanna make someone go to sleep to give her an advantage!
I disagree complex champions are hard to use or understand. Its about how that complexity is implemented sett, jhin, kled, all have long passives and abilities, yet you can understand what they are about after seeing someone playing them just once because most of the complexity is numeric, or does not significantly affect you understanding. Samira and especially aphelios on the other hand, are hard to understand because you can watch many games with them and still not completely grasp what they do. Even then, Samira is still pretty undestandable.
Samira ranking passive is easy to understand. But I still don't get why she has special features against cced enemies... that comes out of nowhere xD
Aatrox imo is one of the best champs gameplay-wise, he may need some balancing in strength, but the gameplay is fun, skill-expressive, it has counterplay etc.
Aatrox has a wonderful kit! It's one of those champions where, if you don't respect him he will completely trash your team. But if you know exactly how to exploit him he's practically useless.
More like, if you have a brain with 50IQ, know how to not stand still and spend 800g on GW, he's practically useless.
y but get countered in one item
At least make his Ult cleanse grevious wound :/
I agree with you about complex champs but I love exploring all the champs I can play against, understanding their mechanics and abilities (got into the game a month ago), finding their strengths, weaknesses, different strategies to counter them. For me it is a very important part of gameplay
I don't want to be nitpicky but old Akali and old Irelia where just the same - no counterplay stat check dash on you and hit you machines. I hate the new ones too, but jsut wanted to mention that their "simple" kits back then, were just as dumb. Irelia - Q at someone, activate W Hiten Style for 75 on hit true dmg, point'n click E for slow, shoot R to heal a bit and hope your stats are high enough. Old Akali did basicly the same.
I just started playing Qiyana, was a bit intimidated about her kit but after many games I love playing her. I think mastering a complicated character is part of the fun and gives you an advantage.
"step on me Queen Qiyana"
lmao
The thing about Seraphine is that I feel like they did the skin and then said "oh, why not a champion like this?" But didn't really get her out of K/DA Universe
Thanks for not being too toxic on Seraphine and instead actually talking about her problems, I appreciate that ^_^
She has CC, Damage and Heal, while with other Supports you only can pick two iirc.
I absolutely agree. It's a solid analysis. If they just took one year off of pumping out champs and just focused on putting care into the champs they already have the game would be much better.
You forgot to point out that Ionian champions are for the most part very technical in nature alongside having unique gameplay patterns. Their gameplay reflects this a lot, with some of them being some of the most mechanicaly intensive champs in the game (Irelia, Zed, Akali, Yasuo, etc.)
11:19 “There is almost nothing about Noxus within her.”
Samira who's Shuriman: 👁️👄👁️
IMHO, Samira is incredibly well designed & connects to Shurima & Noxus pretty well. Her outfit is based on Noxus, her tattoos are Shuriman. Her lore, voice acting & showmanship tie her visuals together.
I would argue that the first two phases of the LoL world IP were worse than what we have now.
Gameplay is an issue for many new champions, so can't say anything there.
her outfit has the noxian red-black-grey color scheme, but it's accented with gold to represent shurima. its wonderfully done, people just dont wanna acknowledge visual design.
And then there is Viego from lore point he is great but from kit in game he really deserves the title ruined king or the new king of bugs. I mean at some point he was able to delete the game.
I wasnt entirely sold on the eboy look of viego
But it isnt lore breaking so it passes
@@V2ULTRAKill Yeah, he's kinda full of himself. He'd totally want his mist body to be super hot.
He's kinda like a more emo Rakan, except his Xayah died.
I've been playing for 11 years and I agree with a lot of what u have said. But I think there is one more factor that runs paralel to ur points: The sheer lack of general ability in a vast percentage of the players only gets compounded or maginifed by increasingly diffuicult champs. I've watched bad players do stupid things with the simplest champ ... So when u add layers of difficulty then games spiral out of hand in mere minutes.
For me, the only problem with Seraphine is that her clothes doesn't scream plitover/zaun. The stage does make her look stiff and all, but it is part of her lore. If you've read it, her platform doesn't only amplify her songs but is a form of transportation from plitover to zaun & vice versa, in order for her to perform in both cities. In game, we can see that her stage is also a form of transportation and where all her abilities come out, which basically ties her lore and gameplay. Just like Ezreal's gauntlet or Caitlyn's rifle, we can say that it is her weapon, a hextech powered stage that amplifies sounds.
You hit the nail on the head on how I feel about league since about season 5 ish. I don't care at all about the lore in multiplayer games, but all the rest pretty much perfectly encapsulates how I feel about it. One aspect I think you brushed over is the counterplay aspect. There are several of the newer champs and reworks where there is no inherent weakness whatsoever in their kits. The counterplay to these champions is simply to be better at the game than they are. This is a really stark contrast to the design of olden league, where almost all champion kits have clearly defined weaknesses you can exploit. Early days of league was more like a strategy game, while league the past few years have transitioned into more a quake 3 type of gameplay. Outplay is replacing counterplay at an accelerating rate, and champions without outplay tools become more and more obsolete.
Become more and more obsolite?
At the time you made that comment
FUCKING SKARNER was the best jungler in soloq AND FUCKING UDYR was the best jungler in proplay
FUCKING SION is the best tank in the game right now and the 2 best junglers are MORGANA AND FUCKING RUMBLE
These new "outplay" champions are getting replaced by older simpler champions
Because the new champions all have the exact same weakness, one of their abilities is a death sentence if your team is half coordinated and they arent a god
Yone's E
Gwen without her W is a worse fiora
The ONLY role where newer champions are dominant right now is adc
The fire emblem 3 houses backround music 😍
I knew i heard it somewhere before! It's Dwelling of the ancient Gods!
They should just release
1-2 champions a year and rework some of the old champs and their horrendous models
"Champions only have one passive, one ultimate ability and so on"
Champions now have passives on their abilities that are more and more powerful.
And then you have viego, who has ALL the abilities...
At least they explained how Jhin got his guns. He got it from a mysterious sponsor or something. Samira just feels like her mom born her with one.
I actually disagree with kai’sa and neeko, I think both of their lore is good and they fit in, not from the outside but once you read the lore it really fits. Imo
Neeko does make sense, but Kaisa is wasted potential. I love playing her, but she looks pretty boring. How cool would it be if she came out of the void corrupted like Kassadin or something like that.
@@theodorluminshield4367 I agree it could’ve been better but what I was saying is that the lore is good and still makes sense, people still think she’s a disgusting creature (read her short story). She still has some corrupted marks like the ones on her neck so face. Also it’s likely that the void creature attached to her prevents her from being totally corrupted although that is just my little head cannon
The fundamental issue is not knowing what to do against a champ; Older champions are easier to understand in the sense that they have clear strong & weak moments. A lot of the new & complex champions don't feel like they do (even though they obviously do). When Ezreal blinks in you know you have a few seconds to all-in him rather than reflexively backing away.
Illaoi makes you feel like even when she's in a weak moment she's still strong. Samira feels like she's always got 3 answers to counter play. Aphillios feels like he can counter any scenario.
More & more champions are starting to feel like an easier to run Invoker from DotA w/out the punishment for mistakes.
Idk what elo you're playin at but aside from illaois hitbox indicators being wrong shes REALLY non threatening if you dont walk into her e like a clown
Same goes for a lot of new champs they all have bery exploitable weaknesses, zoe's portal jump, yones soul, gwens....everything once her w is down
jax was not a easy camp to balance he was so broken after all that thy removed him form the game and reworked him almost completely.
Dude I remember Jax from season 2 and its triggering my PTSD. I still hate this champ tho
I like that you put how I felt about new champs into words very well. All I knew was that I felt some champs didn't belong.
*Sitting in my room with 18 Lunari Moonstone weapons*
You rang?
Fun fact, during his creation the dev team wanted him to have 30 FUCKING WEAPONS (no kidding)
I think that the creation them and the programing and balancing teams doesn't care about each others opinion lmao
I really enjoy the simple but complex kits in the game. Stuff like oriana's multipurpose ball, tahm kench's eating stacks, ezreals's e blink, all of these make really fun things to base their kits around. Thats not to say complex kits don't have their place in the game, if done right they can be really fun to play with like lee sin. But the more abilities you add, the harder it is to balance the champion. Azir is probably a perfecf example, his kit is just overloaded, being able to poke, stay safe, have one of the best movement abilities in the game, and a game changing ult in team fights is just too much to put on one champion. It can make it feel like he has no counterplay or that he has an answer for everything you do. Thats something that I think they've mostly avoided since then, but samira and akali continue to question whether or not they actually learned.
It’s funny, because as an Azir main he has so much utility and there are so many options he has one of the most enjoyable kits ive ever played, but he has been nerfed so hard numerically to account for this that he’s extremely weak for the first 20 minutes of a game. Recent champs are honestly more overloaded from a purely “how much they do” perspective. Viego has a dash, cc, invisibility, untargetability, a blink, an execute, mana regen, stats buff in smoke, etc, and then there’s his bloody passive. Honestly, it makes Azir’s kit seem almost simple. Azir has no cc, a long dash that has to be used extremely carefully because it has a 20 second cool down with no back up options, and a passive that is generally only up 1-3 times per game. Azir is certainly busted in the right hands but I literally went 26 5 9 in my 3rd ever game of Yasuo and similarly well on Viego. They can do so much and their stats are fine, and I’m beginning to not see the point in investing another 40 hours in Azir when he’s more difficult for worse stats
Rito employee : so I had this really cool idea for a monster-like champ-
Rito:imma stop you right there
Other rito employee: so basically sona , but she's hot
Rito:perfection
Look at the favorite champions from the Chinese player base.
See that close to 50% of the players are Chinese.
They release "pretty humanoid" champions...
@@Flynnick yeah , thats my point, I'd love to see some more cool design monster champs but in China all they care about is objectively hot champions e.g. ahri , and look at the newish champs , sett , hot , kaisa , hot , sera , hot , viego , hot etc . Even the newer 'monster' champs are hot (neeko, lillia)
@@James-ow7ek the last monster-monster was Ornn xD
@@Flynnick ikr and he has 2 skins now almost 4? years later
@@James-ow7ek no its not china's fault its riot the one to be blame . The reason they are underrated because riot gives them a lot of boring kits that are not fun to play and give the cool ones to the female and other human champs . look at aurelion i think he is more fitting to weild senna's ult but nooo , riot decided to give him a purple fart that pushes enemies. like fuck there are tons of furries and monster fuckers on the lol community who are willing to spend money if riot makes one. You see we asians love mythical creatures and fairy tales and most of us still believe on those but sadly we asians are always getting the blame if riot and other companies release hot girl characters because people think we are hungry for asses and boobs . I just wish riot explore new character races and creature designs because we love mythical creatures as much as we adore pretty women haha
I think, the problem is not about the champions being too overloaded. The problem is that they don't bring anything new. Every new champion has abilities and mechanics that already exist in League of Legends. Let's look at champions that were released years ago, like Pyke, Rek'Sai, Aurelion Sol, Ivern, Illaoi, Kai'sa, Zoe and etc. Every single one of them brings something new to the game, so they have their PERSONALITY and UNIQUENESS , with no "stolen" abilities from other champions.
And now look to new champions like Seraphine, Yone, Samira, Lilia etc, no-one brings anything new to the game. They didn't add any new mechanics or playstyle.
They literally could've made seraphine into a singer who died and was revived through technology and is now a hologram of some sort that'll be so much better
Oh! I was thinking what if she wanted to be a singer but can't sing? Then, she decides to build a machine that auto tunes her singing. But people found out about this and disliked her for it and calls her "faker" and other things. She then tries to practice singing with her own voice but destroys it with poor and excessive practice. Devastated, she eventually turns back to her machine and writes songs to express her feelings as well as reach out to others who may be hurt.
Actually, I think you have a good point about champion design. Not every single player has a super-brain because it has limitation of how much it can process and think. And the one thing that urges me is that Riot seem to shy away from the casual-friendly aspects of the game, to a more competitive (if not toxic) environment which makes the game incredibly unforgiving if you didn't pull of a great wombo-combo for example.
I also agree that most of the recent champions who don't fit into the world of Runeterra (looking at you Seraphine), were created out of real-world influences like Yuumi (because of cat memes), Set (because he looks like a Jojo character) and Samira (because she DEFINITELY looks like a Devil May Cry character). I would be fine with these unique designs, if it they have some significance to the world of Runeterra. Sett as a pit-fighter underneath the Ionian undergrounds, why not. Yuumi who's a magical cat from Bandle City, okay. Samira for being a daredevilish noxian militarist who's blood-origin is from Shurima, we can go with that. But then we have Seraphine who is a straight rip-off of Sona, has a lore that tells nothing about her association with Piltover's steampunk innovation and Zaun's creativity for survival, has a design that looks eerily too similar a Star Guardian skin who performs Pop-music.
I think Riot really needs to adress these issues as soon as possible, instead of leaving them as an afterthought.
20:30 clip with Aurelion Sol champ presentation :D i remember
Every new champion has some kind of mobility boost, and thus makes every old champion that much more obsolete. They've toyed with removing flash for many years but will never do it because it would instantly make a quarter of the roster useless.
Could be like dota and ya know... buy a blink dagger
11:01 kled has a gun but he isn’t a gun champion imo
Oh that's true woops! Though I feel like he's not so much a gun champion because it's only dismounted Q. The gun thing was mostly just to show how out of place Samira is relative to the other Noxians. Kled also has the same militaristic sense of conquering that Darius and Mordekaiser has, which is why I think he still makes sense, even though he's super goofy.
I play with guns. I work with an axe
14:36 As someone relatively new to the game, the sum of Samira's passive for me was: using her abilities gives a speed buff, and she uses melee in melee and shoots from a distance :D
This chanel freaking rules.
"Twitch, Warwick, and Zac, they're all abominations..."
Dont call my boi Zac an abomination, he's a good guy.
samira is from shurima and her motives are really really thought out.Her story is really good and she fits PERFECTLY in the lore.I do agree with your main point of view but you should really do some research.
I spent some time looking into her lore today after several comments about her urged me to do another read. I appreciate the advice :)
@@VarsVerum this is highly commendable and you sir just made me subscribe.Not only your content is good but you look forward to make it even better.I hope you achieve greatness, dude.
This actually shows an issue with old champion design, imo. Old champs were caricatures and the regions of Runeterra were one dimensional and fit into specific categories with little leeway, Riot is trying to add nuance to the world, it doesn't always work but for most of the new champs I can guess their regions. Seraphine, Yuumi, Neeko and Qiyana are the main ones I may forget what their region is.
Theres no "many of the new champions that dont make sense thematically" theres only one, thats seraphine
What song is being played during the opening?
I don't know if you still need it but i believe it's "dwellings of the ancient gods (rain)" from fire emblem: three houses
Can we a monster character again? Yuumi and lillia are not enough
Monster champions are less popular and underrated than Human champions, and that's why I like Malphite, Vel'koz, and A'Sol
@@etheron1235 True but sad
To be honest I didn't read samira's lore, but her theme immediately told me that she's from bildewater. So you just shocked me by saying she's from noxus. She looks entirely like someone who would be gankplank's rival, like a female captain
"there are no gun champions in noxus"
shows kled
Great vid you really summed up the feelings of a vast majority of the community on this.
For me, all started with the Tencent company forcing all these decisions on Riot,take a look at Mobile Legends designs(Seraphine being the biggest example)
Riot was like that before tencent
Riot literally announced they were going to focus more on champions for gameplay first and lore second just before Samira got released... And the champions since have been first designed around their kit and then lore second.
Nobody:
Vars: Samirrra
Gameplay should always be first and lore and aesthetics second. As a huge Runeterra lore fan, I know how much a good story can not only elevate a champion but also the universe they inhabit. But I cannot agree with the philosophy to design a champion around a region.
Another thing, stories that don't fit your mold of the region aren't inherently bad. It can explore aspects of the region that you previously never knew it had, expanding the world. Take Sett, one of your examples. His existence open up such a huge can of worms for Ionia that was never explored previously. Not only do we have the Navori Brotherhood and the Order of Shadow that spawned from the war, but there now is also a bustling criminal underworld. It shows that some Ionians are adopting Noxus culture, keeping the barbaric fighting pit that once belonged to the enemy, demonstrating that Ionia isn't all spiritual and enlightened as we once thought.
"why do you think games like Minecraft, Mario, and Pokemon are so popular?"
Yeha, about the pokemon part...
???? the only reason why it's not as popular now is because they basically remade the same game like 16 times
@@xavmarz755 they are not only lazy, also lame and manipulative. Saying that they sacrificed the National dex for quality textures and animations was a blatant lie.
@@rodrigokuszek I think it's rather presumptuous of you to go on telling others that they're lazy or whatnot. Incompetent? Maybe. But to call someone lazy? That's rather uncalled for. Imagine how it'd feel if you worked on one of your favourite game franchises, and not only could you not fit in all the features because of deadlines/investors and whatnot, but also they called you lazy. That'd hurt me to be honest. I feel like that's rather rude of you.
@@thewitchcoven well i'm pretty sure their employees are not lazy, they do be crunched. But their philosophy make it seem that way. They are re-using old assets from sun and moon and they have the audacity to lie in front of us. Everything is from scratch they said
@@rodrigokuszek imagine you NEED to created a game in a year span because there is so much money coming from goodies, cards, anime show that you’re basically forced to release content on a just-in-time basis. I’ve been pretty disappointed by the last 2 generations of Pokemon, but considering the fact that Game Freaks still works just like a small company (Despite producing the biggest franchise ever), I understand they use these kind of tricks to gain time (this lie part tho is clearly unprofessional and a big letdown)
Kai'sa especially is character we know about before most of the lore of the Game was rebooted.
This may be a stretch but, is it me, or is there a heavy correlation between "e-girl" champs and champs that just dont fit? (yuumi, seraphine, zoe?) the overly cutesy ones..
Now that you think abt it yes it's true it's prb bc 70 percent of this community is from china and korea where cute stuff gets more attention and when you look on the other hand like monster champs like trundle,ww and rek sai they just fall short I mean the last monster champ riot made is fucking ornn my point is: RELEASE MORE MONSTER CHAMPIONS GOD DAMNIT
they might as well have their own region and fit together
I've needed this video for ages, glad someone actually took the time to think through this and put out a solid script. Subbed.
....can someone let me know what soundtracks he is using?
I miss the times when youtubers put their in-video music tracks in the description.