@@toddkokko5049 I’m considering it, does it drone a lot? I got rid of my N1 because I couldn’t stand the drone and that was with stock headers, I have HKS headers now so I was thinking maybe since they’re both from the same company it wouldn’t drone as much? I haven’t heard of many complaints with the HKS having drone tho lol
@@B1SQ1T No drone for us. We are old and wouldn’t be able to tolerate it droning. It has the Helmholtz chamber so I think that helps. I had the cat back system and the rest stock for the last 8 months. Now I have a JDL catless header and JDL overpipe with a stock mid pipe. Still no drone. I enjoy the sound and driving it when I get to. I feel like the cold start it quieter with the 2plus tune now. I think I have a video on my page when I still had the stock header.
This isn’t a bad video at all, but it’s important to note the other exhaust modifications on the cars in this video. UEL/EL headers will change the sound drastically and some of the cars indeed had aftermarket headers.
I know this is old but do you know which ones specifically have different headers on them? Idk how to tell except I know the map one has a header. Which others? Do they all?
that Invidia N1 is amazing. sounds nice and deep. isnt obnoxious and sounds great when you get to those higher rpms. Love It i gotta get it when i get my brz
Already knew this video was going to be completely false when he said the Invidia N1 has no drone what so ever including with aftermarket headers 🤣 Invidia N1 has the worst drone of pretty much all aftermarket Dual Exit catback setups. This is on a completely stock setup. Slap a catted or Catless header and you’ve got tinnitus because of the amount of drone it produces, not to mention how raspy the tone of the exhaust gets with different headers. The Tomei catback is great for someone who wants weight savings however most people will agree that it’s simply too loud in a daily with drone rivaling that of the Invidia N1. Many people also note that the quality of the sound for the full titanium Tomei cat back isn’t the greatest. It produces more of a unrefined and tinny sound but not necessarily like a fart can just not the greatest sound out there.
The sound of a cat back can really differ depending on the rest of the exhaust system. The N1 might be mature sounding with no drone with everything else stock but, most these guys have catless headers and front pipe with the N1 and sounds like absolute shit, and they always complain about the drone
We try to isolate the parts in these videos as much as possible, but you're correct. The tone and volume level are greatly affected by the rest of the system!
How to you stay away from drone ? I really do like the sound of the MA performance exhaust, but I want a more free flowing header set up without the droning. My brother has tomei catless headers with Greddy catback and the drone is awful.
MAPerformance sounds the best in my opinion. I'm about to purchase a 2022 BRZ and first thing I'm doing as soon as I get it home is this exhaust. Thanks for this video, it helped me narrow in and decide my choice.
86 owner here - I have the tomei 60r, its an even more track focused catback and it has no muffler. It weighs 11~ pounds and of course its ridiculously loud, but tomei provides a really good silencer that takes away a lot of noise but doesn't make the car sound bad or perform worse, so it doesn't have to be that loud.
Am I the only one that dislikes how a single exhaust looks on these cars? Idk if it's me or if I just dislike the second hole there being empty. Not hating on singles, it's just is there something I can do to make it look like a single would fit better.
Another con I could see with the ARK exhaust is the extra weight. GREAT video! I ordered my 2022 BRZ the other day and can't wait to fly to Dallas to pick it up!
This is the worst comparison I've seen. If you're gonna compare them, make them all on a car with UELs or all EL header. Obviously UEL sounds better but can't compare an exhaust that's "too quiet" to another exhaust with a header.
Can you get an aftermarket header without changing your stock exhaust? So for example, to install equal length headers for a BRZ ts without modifying the rest and then get a tune?
I thought I was going crazy when he said the N1 was minimal drone. I got rid of mine as well because of the excessive amount of drone from that exhaust.
@@KehY91 I’ve heard the N2 is a lot better in that regard… oh well after the N1 I don’t know if I still wanna give the N2 a shot haha, looking at the HKS Spec L rn
@@B1SQ1T I never heard the cabin noise of the N1 so I don’t know how bad it drones but I have the Invidia N2 with Tomei UEL headers and it drones pretty bad. Probably not as bad as the N1 if you go off the volume although drone isn’t necessarily about volume and more so the frequency/vibrations resonating through the cabin and well the N2 is pretty bad. Did some volume tests and the N2 with Catless UEL headers is around 98 - 101db revving to 4k so is decently loud however the drone is abhorrent. Looking at a different catback to switch to cause I really do love the sound just not the drone. Saw Tanabe concept g cause single exit peaks my interest but I highly doubt the drone will be any better. Also if you plan on getting headers I would stay away from the spec L, it is known to sound pretty raspy and tinny sounding with any sort of header
I shouldnt be watching this. Else my wallet will get killed 😅 this is not gooooodddd The first exhaust nvidia one seems nice. A bit more low key and not too obnoxious. The next 2 are down right too obnoxious. But man that HKS... thats the next best thing. Byt yeah shouldve been a dual tip! That acceleration sound is got damn music to my ears.
@6:18 I thought I was the only one that notice other people pronouncing it “MAP performance.” Like bro do you know how you sound right now?🤣 it’s M A Performance.
Is the MAP exhaust with stock manifold or UEL header? I’m in cali determined to get this combo for track days, but wonder what the combo will sound like 🤔
I really liked the ARK. On the last drive-by w the ARK, it was really sounding good for a couple seconds when on the gas peddle but The driver let off. Would have liked to have heard A drive by with the driver staying on the pedal.
Personally I didn't think the drone was too bad on the Invidia N1 alone. However, a few months ago I added a JDL catless UEL header on it. That's a different story 😂 . The drone only bugs me in the mornings sometimes when I drive to work, but overall I'm used to it at this point.
Brz owner with a Invidia N1, no headers. It’s very droney, not sure what these guys were saying. It’s definitely deeper than stock but it’s very droney. I absolutely love it but if you’re looking for something that isn’t obnoxious this isn’t the exhaust. It definitely isn’t mature.
N1 resonated+tomei uel catless, sounds nice but boy it was hard to hear my passrnger talking to me at freeway speeds 😂 and the drone is bad unless you're bumping subs like I was lol
Do any exhausts have a quiet cold start ? Or they all about equal. I had Invidia q300 and the drive itself was quiet but cold stsrt was loud. I sold it cuz I didn’t like the tinny sound it sounded like while driving. Felt like it sounded kinda hollow
This dude doesn’t know what he’s talking about. He starts off by saying the exhaust has no drone then says it has minimal drone. He then says the exhaust is super loud then says it isn’t that loud. Get the facts straight. The fact that he says SUPER, SUPER for everything is more annoying than drone.
Im in no terms an expert in exhausts, but I think the last one is the worst and the 1st is the best. 1st one's sounds is sooo loooooow, like an animal looking for it's prey
Im gonna be constructive but honest. The MAP exhaust is poorly tuned and sounds like a raspy fart cannon that used to be popular with the EK hatch crowd. It needs a better resonator. That lout ass brrrap sounds cheap and dirty
I think I need to get me some MAPerformance exhaust …. I’m looking for a tone like that, I have a spec -D and I’m getting tired of it lmao 😂🤦♂️ but for $300 ehhh didn’t kill my bank
I have a corsa for my brz. It’s a bit pricey but so is the tomei and it sounds great! I get it that they can’t put 20 exhausts on the list. Amazing one though
im new to the car scene. is having a new exhaust system for example the MAPerformance Catback be legal? Like pass emission test and stuff? And how much does it typically cost for shops to charge when installing a system
Catbacks should have no effect on emissions as they are after the catalytic converter. Shop install rates can vary greatly on location. Just give one a call and ask!
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Invidia R400 sounds amazing, especially with an UEL header.
in your clip of the MA Performance exhaust, is that with stock headers?
Sad to see you don't make the MAPerformance cat-back anymore :(
@@Luxumbra69 no wonder I’ve been looking at every website, every forum for it and I got squat
@@lulu_bum7192 explains a lot
Man If that HKS was dual exit it would be perfect
Single exit means bigger flames
HKS makes a dual exit one too called hi power spec L or something
@@B1SQ1T yeah that’s the one I went with. We like it.
@@toddkokko5049 I’m considering it, does it drone a lot? I got rid of my N1 because I couldn’t stand the drone and that was with stock headers, I have HKS headers now so I was thinking maybe since they’re both from the same company it wouldn’t drone as much? I haven’t heard of many complaints with the HKS having drone tho lol
@@B1SQ1T No drone for us. We are old and wouldn’t be able to tolerate it droning. It has the Helmholtz chamber so I think that helps. I had the cat back system and the rest stock for the last 8 months. Now I have a JDL catless header and JDL overpipe with a stock mid pipe. Still no drone. I enjoy the sound and driving it when I get to. I feel like the cold start it quieter with the 2plus tune now. I think I have a video on my page when I still had the stock header.
This isn’t a bad video at all, but it’s important to note the other exhaust modifications on the cars in this video. UEL/EL headers will change the sound drastically and some of the cars indeed had aftermarket headers.
I know this is old but do you know which ones specifically have different headers on them? Idk how to tell except I know the map one has a header. Which others? Do they all?
that Invidia N1 is amazing. sounds nice and deep. isnt obnoxious and sounds great when you get to those higher rpms. Love It
i gotta get it when i get my brz
Couldn't agree more!
Have u gotten it yet?
@@ripchristixn I have the invidia n1 on my 86… personally I think I needs to be louder
I’m seeing different exhaust being sound reviewed on different headers, obviously has no idea what he’s talking about
Y’all say Invidia N1 has no drone.. Thats far from true
it has the MOST drone. so much that i'm in the process of getting a different exhaust after having it for about three years.
I’ve mine with a psr header 😶🌫️
@@JorgeOrtiz-vl1mf I had the N1 on my DC5 and I sold it after a week lol. I think it does sound good but the drone was unbearable.
facts
If the HKS was dual then it’d be perfect but the MAP 3” Catback sounds like the best overall system. The ARK is so damn expensive but sounds great
HKS does make a dual exhaust
I cant figure it out. Who buys a Tomei and then says its too loud..? ITS A TOMEI!!! YOU BOUGHT A TOMEI!!! That being said, best exhaust for this car
Already knew this video was going to be completely false when he said the Invidia N1 has no drone what so ever including with aftermarket headers 🤣
Invidia N1 has the worst drone of pretty much all aftermarket Dual Exit catback setups. This is on a completely stock setup. Slap a catted or Catless header and you’ve got tinnitus because of the amount of drone it produces, not to mention how raspy the tone of the exhaust gets with different headers. The Tomei catback is great for someone who wants weight savings however most people will agree that it’s simply too loud in a daily with drone rivaling that of the Invidia N1. Many people also note that the quality of the sound for the full titanium Tomei cat back isn’t the greatest. It produces more of a unrefined and tinny sound but not necessarily like a fart can just not the greatest sound out there.
The sound of a cat back can really differ depending on the rest of the exhaust system. The N1 might be mature sounding with no drone with everything else stock but, most these guys have catless headers and front pipe with the N1 and sounds like absolute shit, and they always complain about the drone
We try to isolate the parts in these videos as much as possible, but you're correct. The tone and volume level are greatly affected by the rest of the system!
How to you stay away from drone ? I really do like the sound of the MA performance exhaust, but I want a more free flowing header set up without the droning. My brother has tomei catless headers with Greddy catback and the drone is awful.
how do you keep tye sound you want? or what can someone do to not make it sound like dookie
@@blaynebricenoadd resonators
Why am I watching this I can’t even drive a car
I got a greddy Evo GT catback and I was super impressed. Definitely should’ve been on this list.
I have the MAPerfomance exhaust and 1320 headers and it haven’t heard a better combo yet
my man said no drone on an N1... you have no idea friend.
This dude is high. Ive run the N1 with headers and it sounds decent but drones like hell on the highway
Headers make the whole difference 🤪
@@l.a.210 I’ve had the N1 with stock headers and it drones pretty badly
MAPerformance sounds the best in my opinion. I'm about to purchase a 2022 BRZ and first thing I'm doing as soon as I get it home is this exhaust. Thanks for this video, it helped me narrow in and decide my choice.
Can u link the page where u got it I just got my 2023 86 this weekend and am looking for this exhaust
The MA exhaust really brings out the tone and specific sound of the brz better than all the others
I can’t find it even with the link
neither can i ion see it on the website
The car in the MA exhaust has headers for sure not even the tomei exhaust sounds like that and it's probably the loudest one you can get lol
I think bc it had headers
That car had headers and was turbo lol
86 owner here - I have the tomei 60r, its an even more track focused catback and it has no muffler. It weighs 11~ pounds and of course its ridiculously loud, but tomei provides a really good silencer that takes away a lot of noise but doesn't make the car sound bad or perform worse, so it doesn't have to be that loud.
Am I the only one that dislikes how a single exhaust looks on these cars? Idk if it's me or if I just dislike the second hole there being empty. Not hating on singles, it's just is there something I can do to make it look like a single would fit better.
Exactly my problem. I want to get that hks exhaust but can’t bring myself to do it because it’s a single and that empty hole will look weird
Another con I could see with the ARK exhaust is the extra weight. GREAT video! I ordered my 2022 BRZ the other day and can't wait to fly to Dallas to pick it up!
Can't wait to see some of your content on it!
That rasp for MAPerformance. Definitely not for me. It’s that straight fp! Yikes...
“Let’s hear how it’s sounds “ and fatso still talking
Which one is the MAP exhaust on the website? I can’t find it. When I click the link it takes me to the website but which exhaust is it?
Unfortunately, this exhaust is NLA.
@@maperformance😢
This is the worst comparison I've seen. If you're gonna compare them, make them all on a car with UELs or all EL header. Obviously UEL sounds better but can't compare an exhaust that's "too quiet" to another exhaust with a header.
That tomei sounds amazing but it’s only one exhaust exit right? Are there any tomei similar sounding exhausts with dual?
Can you get an aftermarket header without changing your stock exhaust? So for example, to install equal length headers for a BRZ ts without modifying the rest and then get a tune?
Should’ve included the Tsudo SE cat back. It’s affordable and has a very nice deep tone
Invidia N1 minimal drone? I sold my N1 because I couldn’t stand how much drone there was
I thought I was going crazy when he said the N1 was minimal drone. I got rid of mine as well because of the excessive amount of drone from that exhaust.
@@KehY91 I’ve heard the N2 is a lot better in that regard… oh well after the N1 I don’t know if I still wanna give the N2 a shot haha, looking at the HKS Spec L rn
@@B1SQ1T I never heard the cabin noise of the N1 so I don’t know how bad it drones but I have the Invidia N2 with Tomei UEL headers and it drones pretty bad. Probably not as bad as the N1 if you go off the volume although drone isn’t necessarily about volume and more so the frequency/vibrations resonating through the cabin and well the N2 is pretty bad. Did some volume tests and the N2 with Catless UEL headers is around 98 - 101db revving to 4k so is decently loud however the drone is abhorrent. Looking at a different catback to switch to cause I really do love the sound just not the drone. Saw Tanabe concept g cause single exit peaks my interest but I highly doubt the drone will be any better. Also if you plan on getting headers I would stay away from the spec L, it is known to sound pretty raspy and tinny sounding with any sort of header
I shouldnt be watching this. Else my wallet will get killed 😅 this is not gooooodddd
The first exhaust nvidia one seems nice. A bit more low key and not too obnoxious.
The next 2 are down right too obnoxious.
But man that HKS... thats the next best thing.
Byt yeah shouldve been a dual tip!
That acceleration sound is got damn music to my ears.
@6:18 I thought I was the only one that notice other people pronouncing it “MAP performance.” Like bro do you know how you sound right now?🤣 it’s M A Performance.
THANK YOU!!! We just had to get it off of our chest! 😤🤣
I like the first one tested. I hate the loud fart can sound.
No fujitsubo?
Is the MAP exhaust with stock manifold or UEL header? I’m in cali determined to get this combo for track days, but wonder what the combo will sound like 🤔
That shameless plug got me 😂
The invidia and HKS are the only exhausts that doesn't sound like someone is blowing through a cut-off balloon...lol
R400 is the best
Ma performance sounded the best
I actually love how it sounds like a helicopter on cold start lol
I got cat del custom manifold and straight pipe with borla muffler
Is Tomei Expreme Type-80 legal?
Dude that MA blows my mind
My opinion:
best looking; you guys, MA-P
best sounding; HKS
Thanks!!!
your catback idle is crazy I love it
Do you know if your exhaust is legal in Germany or does it actually have an e certification?
We only know the certifications for our country, the US. We cannot guarantee this will meet the requirements for Germany.
@@maperformance ok, anyway thank you for the answer 👌🏻
I bought an frs that came with the invidia exhaust
How do these exhausts effect fuel consumption? Especially in traffic
I really liked the ARK. On the last drive-by w the ARK, it was really sounding good for a couple seconds when on the gas peddle but The driver let off. Would have liked to have heard A drive by with the driver staying on the pedal.
Zero drone with Invidia N1?????? Please don't misinform those who are looking for exhaust with little to no drone 😑
Personally I didn't think the drone was too bad on the Invidia N1 alone. However, a few months ago I added a JDL catless UEL header on it. That's a different story 😂 . The drone only bugs me in the mornings sometimes when I drive to work, but overall I'm used to it at this point.
What do you guys think of the GReddy Revolution Rs Catback?
Greddy makes a great product, we just don't sell too many of them!
The invidia n2 is a really good one too
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The MAPerformance and ARK GRiP exhausts are on cars with unequal length headers.
The N1 is all drone on the highway brother! I hate it so much
I think your best ones sounded like my Magnaflow, but cost more.
Brz owner with a Invidia N1, no headers. It’s very droney, not sure what these guys were saying. It’s definitely deeper than stock but it’s very droney. I absolutely love it but if you’re looking for something that isn’t obnoxious this isn’t the exhaust. It definitely isn’t mature.
i want the last one
i really like the MAPerformance catback but im not sure if the car in this video was stock besides the exhaust or not
N1 resonated+tomei uel catless, sounds nice but boy it was hard to hear my passrnger talking to me at freeway speeds 😂 and the drone is bad unless you're bumping subs like I was lol
MAP erformance exhaust sounds pretty good. Nice price.
The MAP exhaust is my fav. but I got sad when I knew that scion has a turbo on it which helps it to have that deeper aggressive exhaust note
Shoutout to MAP for showing all the options on an equal playing field instead of basically making a 15 minute ad for their own product
We try to give our audience the freedom of choice and be well informed! Thanks!
invidia n1 catback is much louder in person
I like first one honestly. I hate anything that is drone like. It just sounds awful. But that’s just my opinion so don’t kill me. Please.
Do any exhausts have a quiet cold start ? Or they all about equal. I had Invidia q300 and the drive itself was quiet but cold stsrt was loud. I sold it cuz I didn’t like the tinny sound it sounded like while driving. Felt like it sounded kinda hollow
Invidia R400 has a deeper tone
This dude doesn’t know what he’s talking about. He starts off by saying the exhaust has no drone then says it has minimal drone. He then says the exhaust is super loud then says it isn’t that loud. Get the facts straight. The fact that he says SUPER, SUPER for everything is more annoying than drone.
tomei sounds best to me
honestly I love the Tomei sound, but I absolutely do not want an exhaust thats super loud. Could I dampen the volume while retaining the tone?
A high quality muffler would help for sure!
@@maperformance Any recommendations?
@@Spextre vibrant makes good mufflers and resonators. Check out their site
Used a boosted car to advertise your exhaust, that's misleading. You won't get the same sound without the turbo
i have a stock brz and i want a little more sound , is deleting the small second resonateur a good choice ? and what it will sound like ?
Weirdly the ARK and the Invidia were my favourites, I like the subtlety of the invidia
Can you do one for Lexus IS ? 350 and 250?
We'll add it to the list! We haven't done anything in the Lexus range yet!
Sound Clips on stock header? If yes HKS was the best
Whats the best Exhaust if i want the rumble but not too loud
If you want rumble exhaust really doesn't make a MAJOR difference its all about headers get unequal length headers if you want a subaru type rumble.
fuck i love the second one but that’s so expensive
Gotta save up!
Im in no terms an expert in exhausts, but I think the last one is the worst and the 1st is the best. 1st one's sounds is sooo loooooow, like an animal looking for it's prey
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5:30 gopro
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ARK GRIP has that classic Subie-rumble im looking for. holy shit it's good.
My catless brz makes these sound so quiet😂 (not a flex, I just can't remember the last time my car sounded this quiet)
Im gonna be constructive but honest. The MAP exhaust is poorly tuned and sounds like a raspy fart cannon that used to be popular with the EK hatch crowd. It needs a better resonator. That lout ass brrrap sounds cheap and dirty
I'm looking for purchase the " maperformance 3" SS catback" but i can't find it on the website... could someone please help me?? I felt in love
@maperformance
Did you guys discontinue the maperformance exhaust??
I think I need to get me some MAPerformance exhaust …. I’m looking for a tone like that, I have a spec -D and I’m getting tired of it lmao 😂🤦♂️ but for $300 ehhh didn’t kill my bank
are these all with stock headers and everything?
Both the first or the last would be my preference. Low toned, no rasp.
Quiet’s nice for my 77 year old self. The stock drone is just annoying.
PERRIN is by far my favorite way underrated.
Please do not put background music no one wants to hear that
That first exhaust sounds like my stock TRD exhaust
I have a corsa for my brz. It’s a bit pricey but so is the tomei and it sounds great! I get it that they can’t put 20 exhausts on the list. Amazing one though
HKS but only one exit 😭😭😭😖
@MAPperformance id love for you all to design a titanium dual exit exhaust to outperform Tomei.
That would be fun! Titanium is such a pain to weld though!
Do you have any clips of the new AWE Touring exhaust on the old GT86?
Idk why I can’t find the MAPerformance exhaust it keeps pulling up xforce
Unfortunately that part is no longer in production, but we plan to revive it when we get our 2022 BRZ!
The n1 has terrible drone
MAPerformance one sounds like a wet fart
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When I click the link for yours it doesn’t load :( it’s it out of stock or is there an issue with the link. I’d really love this
Unfortunately our MAP catback is NLA, but development for the 2022 GR86/BRZ version has begun!
I can’t find your MAPerformance CatBack from your link. Is it sold out?
It is no longer in production unfortunately, but our 2022 BRZ/GR86 catback is in development now!
Love the Motley Crue reference!
im new to the car scene. is having a new exhaust system for example the MAPerformance Catback be legal? Like pass emission test and stuff? And how much does it typically cost for shops to charge when installing a system
Catbacks should have no effect on emissions as they are after the catalytic converter. Shop install rates can vary greatly on location. Just give one a call and ask!
What I don’t understand is how Corsa Performance was not included in this comparison
If that tomei was dual fuckkk😭💔