they didn't make the video this guy badgered them can I make, can I make a video about my keyboard enthusiast keyboards can be very good very expensive and very satisfying. very few know about them.
@@jannclaudebinoya You can't easily do that on the KBD75. I still use my KBD75 V1 (Mini-USB) but soldering a USB-C port onto it is not easily doable. Still Mini-USB is just fine. There aren't as many cables you can get with a USB-C connector but it's alright.
BanditoHAHA yeah really liked the tone, the details and deferring to better tutorials when it came to more delicate part (soldering) while still giving basic lessons he learned as a newbie I think we need more of those, over clocking could be a good place, it can be as simple or as complex as they feel they can go and a lot of material they can refer to for people who want to dive deeper. If they do as well as this one it could be a good introduction for people who feel daunted by it Anyway keep doing whatever you did there the verge it’s a very good step for people who usually just buy consumer electronics and what to just understand how they could dive deeper for custom hardware
@@easterdm well we dont know what stabs he used, but generally the best course of action is buying decent stabilizers in the first place. Most importantly though, lubing with a thicker lubricant like krytox 205g0 or dialectric grease. He did mention a lot of people like to do some other modifications, things like clipping stabilizers, "band-aid" modding them can change the sound and feel. But the most important thing for removing rattle like that space bar has is buying decent stabilizers and lubricating them with a grease lubricant
Not the type of video I expected to show up on The Verge's channel! I'm a keyboard guy myself, and I enjoyed this video, and great job on the keyboard. Also, this is not your endgame. Endgame doesn't exist. *cries*
I'm sure he knows quite a bit more than he mentioned in the video. Keep in mind this video isn't catered to enthusiasts. If they'd used Durock stabs and lubed everything too it would probably have been a little too much for somebody new to all this
Yeah, in retrospect that's definitely something I'll be doing for my next board. Might as well make it perfect if you're going to the effort of building it yourself right? - Jon
@@Mobile_Dom coffee and honey is undrinkable, I understand if people like blue cheese but this kind of weird is something not gonna happen, and the same thing applies for keyboards
This is only really a worry if you do this often. Soldering one keyboard will be fine without a fan, but if you solder a lot as a part of your hobby, do get a fan.
Really good redemption arc here compared to the infamous classic we're all aware of Well researched, executed and explained Genuinely surprised at the quality of this! Good work!
Woke up to find someone referenced me in their video haha! Glad the verge found my video useful! I will be updating my soldering tutorial vid soon. It's a bit old! Stay tuned!
There are something that I think I should point out: - what's supposed to be Topre switch in the video, is actually Mecha-membrane switch - in the subtitles, it's not "ten-kilos", it's "tenkeyless" - there are also wooden cases as well - if you have the time, please lube your stabs, just to make the typing demonstration sound better otherwise, this is an absolutely excellent video about custom keyboards from a channel like The Verge, I really like how you mentioned some of the less known aspects of mechanical keyboards
Tips for any people who are interested. 1.) lube you're stabilizers and switches if possible (never over lube). The sound and feel will instantly become better if done correctly. 2.) If you're looking for something fairly priced, go with KBDFans and pay for expedited shipping it's worth it. 3.) once again lube 4.) did I mention lubing?
GeorgeOTJ 2 questions: 1. Is it worth lubing clicky switches like Kailh Navys or MX Greens? 2. should you always lube the stabilizers even if you don't want to lube the switches?
mambo you have to lube the springs inside the switches. That’s more important than anything else. Those are what produce the dreaded, god-awful, makes you want to jump out of a window ping noises.
I thought I was gonna see more memes on reddit after this video. I still might, but at least they won't be entirely negative. Good video, this dude can stay.
@@leeuum764 The benefits vary for each person, but it is always nice to have. USB C is now widely used among enthusiasts. Mini USB might be phased out, having USB c might provide better custom cable options.
There's no point in getting a USB-C port on the PCB other than for cable compatibility. The benefits of USB-C can't be utilized in something like a keyboard that is just meant for typing. And given the fact that keyboards generally spend their lifetime stationary on a desk, it's not as big of a deal as say, a laptop or a smartphone without USB-C
@@rousseau327 actually a lot of enthusiasts like USB c as they change their keyboards out often. They can use the same cable for every board and not worry about switching cables. Also the orientation of the cable does not matter. I just watched a video on the upcoming Vortex Poker IV and 80 percent of the comments are about "not gonna buy this board if it is still micro USB".
5:53 - I am no health and safety expert, but from what I heard you should never-ever breathe in soldering fumes, and always solder in a well ventilated environment
I mean you're probably more likely to do damage to your lungs walking around New York City or London and breathing in those fumes than from a bit of solder being melted.
kudos for mentioning buck spring, alps, and torpes. Usually video like this give the people the impression that cherry like switches is the only thing that exists lol.
To see someone new making their own, unique custom keyboard is astonishing. I don't know how to describe the feeling but it feels great to know that someone new has just joined the custom keybaord community. Been using my custom keyboard for a year now, and its great! Lubed Gateron Red, Sakura Keycaps from Akko and also custom spray on the case that was originally black to pink and white. Welcome to the community.
Don't wanna be rude, but honestly, this is soooooooooooo far from endgame! True endgame is qmk flashing, franken-switches, lubing, custom acrylic or wooden case, and many other things.
For the stabilizers: doing a "band aid mod" as well as lubing and clipping them will only take a few minutes and makes an enormous difference. There are tons of tutorials. Lubing switches is really time consuming but makes them sound more rich and deep and feel a lot smoother!
My perfect "endgame" keyboard is one that is universally modular with any and all switches, only requiring you to buy a new board of the same make and model in the event that it breaks.
This is a great looking keyboard. It’s surprisingly difficult to find off the shelf UK (ISO) layout ones, with Mac/iPadOS keycaps. I’ve been searching for a decent 65%, usbc, Bluetooth, with white backlights for a while. Anyone offer any help?
Look up Nathan Kim’s (taehatypes) tutorial on lubing, clipping, and band aid modding stabilizers! It’ll help greatly reduce rattle that you find prevalent in your space are (and other keys like enter and shift(s)).
I “built” mine for the first time with the hotswappable GK61 pcb, burnt orange switches and AliExpress keycaps, planning to switch the plate for a brass one for kbdfans, and an acrylic or aluminum one, I’ll probably switch the PCB for one with better software down the road
I was pleasantly surprised that there has been done actual research in this video as opposed to "the other" one. I hoped for another laughter at first but while I didn't get that, I was happy to see the result :)
What would go into your perfect keyboard?
Ergodox, cherry Black, lubed
I also have a 75 but with box whites
how about making your own PCB and case?
MX Reds, Yellow LEDs and pudding caps yolo
Gmk jamon keycaps :D
this guy is better than the previous guy
u know which one I mean
he who should not be named
@@sm7085 He who should be summoned never again.
they didn't make the video this guy badgered them can I make, can I make a video about my keyboard enthusiast keyboards can be very good very expensive and very satisfying. very few know about them.
he who should but be shamed
Who was it? I'm out of the loop lol
The host is quite knowledgeable and interesting to watch but my god, the spacebar rattles are killing me...
Building a keyboard without any lube ?
Come on mate
that hurt
Ko nghĩ là e sẽ gặp chủ tịch ở đây :))
Agreed
pain
"This keyboard can last my entire life"
The keyboard: _laughs in mini USB_
mini USB, not to be confused with micro USB, is actually very durable.
@@ej_tech still no usb c
@@Camachameleon what seems to be the problem? You can easily solder a usb c if needed
@@jannclaudebinoya You can't easily do that on the KBD75. I still use my KBD75 V1 (Mini-USB) but soldering a USB-C port onto it is not easily doable.
Still Mini-USB is just fine. There aren't as many cables you can get with a USB-C connector but it's alright.
My Nokia N-Gage has a mini USB port and it still works like new.
Well ain't that just some enjoyable presenting technique. Nice video.
I enjoy learning from this dude more then the last one
Very good video, thanks Verge.
Only thing is didn't lube the stabilisers but other than that great video.
This keyboard looks almost identical to the Epomaker Akko 3084 9009 keyboard that I got just a few days ago.
Bruh lube or change your stabilizers..
GMK screw-in or durock something, don't use included stabs which comes with the board they're oftenly not good
do we need a tabletop for this???
Liked because "solder not sodder"
technology are not end game and mechanical keyboard are technology
Good vid but the spacebar is extremely rattley and sounds bad
Who else came here expecting a complete disaster
Yup. I honestly did.
Everyone
I mean not as bad as I thought it was going to be but still pretty bad.
I did and I wasn't disappointed.
SHAGGY -OW well at least he did mention it
Verge learnt a lot from it's last video. I was like here we go again.
LOL
Same fam. As soon as I saw this on my feed I was like "Ahhh, here we go again.".
can anyone explain what happened?
@@MOKROGULSKI look up their building a computer video.
They removed it, some hero has re-uploaded though
I was going 'OH NO' at the sight of the video title. Thankfully we're safe.
This was great and the presenter was excellent. More of him please.
I also enjoy the British sass
Better than the one who should not be named
Agreed!
xXDeadouTXx we don’t speak of that one
xXDeadouTXx let’s keep him in the banished realm
Wow, very well-researched, really did justice to the hobby in this video while not being too jarring for the general viewer.
Kudos!
BanditoHAHA yeah really liked the tone, the details and deferring to better tutorials when it came to more delicate part (soldering) while still giving basic lessons he learned as a newbie
I think we need more of those, over clocking could be a good place, it can be as simple or as complex as they feel they can go and a lot of material they can refer to for people who want to dive deeper. If they do as well as this one it could be a good introduction for people who feel daunted by it
Anyway keep doing whatever you did there the verge it’s a very good step for people who usually just buy consumer electronics and what to just understand how they could dive deeper for custom hardware
not lubed switches and not lubed stabs smh
The spacebar sound
0 o f
lol i wonder how many people disliked the video for that. Otherwise great video.
No, I cannot forgive. No... not the killing of Agent Navarre. I will follow you. Denton, I will get you!
how do you fix that?
@@easterdm well we dont know what stabs he used, but generally the best course of action is buying decent stabilizers in the first place. Most importantly though, lubing with a thicker lubricant like krytox 205g0 or dialectric grease. He did mention a lot of people like to do some other modifications, things like clipping stabilizers, "band-aid" modding them can change the sound and feel. But the most important thing for removing rattle like that space bar has is buying decent stabilizers and lubricating them with a grease lubricant
yeahhhhh it made me hurt
No Handarbeit? Disappointed.
😂
lol
Yeah this is so correct
Hello, Mr P. 👋
400th like
Not the type of video I expected to show up on The Verge's channel! I'm a keyboard guy myself, and I enjoyed this video, and great job on the keyboard. Also, this is not your endgame. Endgame doesn't exist.
*cries*
LordManhattan: Endgame doesn't exist.
Wallets worldwide: oh nO
The only solution to the endgame is not to play.
You know deep down you dont want endgame
Dude we have the same profile picture wtf
You know, I'm something of a keyboard guy myself.
The switches sound great, the stabs, not so much.. but hey it's your first, good job.
I'm sure he knows quite a bit more than he mentioned in the video. Keep in mind this video isn't catered to enthusiasts. If they'd used Durock stabs and lubed everything too it would probably have been a little too much for somebody new to all this
@@athmaid I’d argue that it is catered to enthusiasts, but in a “here’s my first board!” sense. Stabilizers make or break a board.
Next video should be :
Building my first butterfly keyboard.
@xOr THEIR
More like Repairing My 10th Butterfly Keyboard.....
@xOr The guy that wrote that memo to apple accidentally made a double press on "3" making it "33. time is the charm."
is this razer ?
This guy is good. He can stay.
Cool to see The Verge doing a video on this! Altho please lube those stabilisers, super easy and it makes a huge difference in sound/feel.
is it not a personal preference thing? the sound and feel might change, but what if the altered sound/feel isn't to Jon's liking?
@@Mobile_Dom I've never heard of anyone preferring their stabilisers scratchy/rattly ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Yeah, in retrospect that's definitely something I'll be doing for my next board. Might as well make it perfect if you're going to the effort of building it yourself right? - Jon
@@janglad9136 theres always someone man, like there's likely someone that likes coffee with honey in it for all i know
@@Mobile_Dom coffee and honey is undrinkable, I understand if people like blue cheese but this kind of weird is something not gonna happen, and the same thing applies for keyboards
Protip: Breathing in soldering fumes isn't recommended, use a fan to move air away from you.
I ain’t doing it but thanks for the help
Or do it outside with good airflow and a n95 mask. This stuff can cause permanent damage.
My first thought when he started soldering!!!
This is only really a worry if you do this often. Soldering one keyboard will be fine without a fan, but if you solder a lot as a part of your hobby, do get a fan.
But i like the smell ( ･ _･)
However, don't get me wrong. You are right lol. If i was soldering everyday i would get a fan or better. x)
Forget Endgame. You said that ISO is better than ANSI. That's more Infinity War
Ergo is the true path to enlightenment. Change my mind.
JIS is better than both
@@Jason-nk1zn I use JIS.
some say that ortho is the true superior format
30% is the best lmfao
very well researched video! good job guys 👍 (please clip and lube your stabilizers next time though!)
Yeah you're totally right. That's definitely something I'll be doing for my second board! - Jon
The typing god has spoken
I LOVE YOU GLACIER
Came here in hopes of lulz, stayed for genuinely interesting content. Nice Job.
I was ready for a facepalm, stayed for the great presentation.
More Uk, than USA then.
@Aurelius ... brack?, what is brack?
Really good redemption arc here compared to the infamous classic we're all aware of
Well researched, executed and explained
Genuinely surprised at the quality of this! Good work!
I'm a bit out of the loop here. What is the 'infamous classic' video? Link?
You must be new around here
I think the only thing he could do is clip, lube and bandaid his stabs. It would make his board sound way better.
Woke up to find someone referenced me in their video haha! Glad the verge found my video useful!
I will be updating my soldering tutorial vid soon. It's a bit old! Stay tuned!
JUJU ay
Well researched and properly presented. This is what a How-To video should look like.
Even though the title does not say "How-To" 😁😁😁
This dude low-key dissed on American language like multiple times. Love it!
Brits get tired of having nearly every RUclipsr using American English.
American language lol
Low-key American is not a language.
@@adaml.5355 You're right. Let's just call it worse English
@@adaml.5355 Are you seriously suggesting that american english does not exist then?
This was great! More like this, please.
6:42 "Because I work in an office, with aDulTs." 😂😂😂
LOL I'm a programmer and in my office, the worst looking Christmas tree membrane "gamery" setups are exactly from the older guys
This video is delightful.
There are something that I think I should point out:
- what's supposed to be Topre switch in the video, is actually Mecha-membrane switch
- in the subtitles, it's not "ten-kilos", it's "tenkeyless"
- there are also wooden cases as well
- if you have the time, please lube your stabs, just to make the typing demonstration sound better
otherwise, this is an absolutely excellent video about custom keyboards from a channel like The Verge, I really like how you mentioned some of the less known aspects of mechanical keyboards
Tips for any people who are interested.
1.) lube you're stabilizers and switches if possible (never over lube). The sound and feel will instantly become better if done correctly.
2.) If you're looking for something fairly priced, go with KBDFans and pay for expedited shipping it's worth it.
3.) once again lube
4.) did I mention lubing?
GeorgeOTJ
2 questions:
1. Is it worth lubing clicky switches like Kailh Navys or MX Greens?
2. should you always lube the stabilizers even if you don't want to lube the switches?
mambo you have to lube the springs inside the switches. That’s more important than anything else. Those are what produce the dreaded, god-awful, makes you want to jump out of a window ping noises.
how about lubing outemu browns is it ok?
I thought I was gonna see more memes on reddit after this video. I still might, but at least they won't be entirely negative. Good video, this dude can stay.
Now that is one beautiful keyboard!
*Keanu finger-gun* 'No YOU'RE beautiful!' - Jon
hey you are not Jon, you are John
Great video. Stabs need some lube, but otherwise fantastic.
This guy really soldered with confidence.
heretolevitateme “Springs need some lube”
Fixed
I'm loving the diverse content that The Verge offers. 🙌🏽
really solid video here. as someone who collects keyboards i was afraid this was going to end up like another “popular” verge video.
40% keyboard is endgame. Minivan gang where y’all at?
Planck owner checking in
just go pain27 already.
Václav Kučera 10% keyboard and my monitor is a 4" phone. :3
I feel like building my own keyboard now
Its expensive if i am not wrong
8:31 AHHHHH the rattling stabs
Damn man! this is awesome....
My Start-key has died.. I called this key Tony Start...
This is gonna be top comment soon 😂👌🏻
Welcome to the kb community
Now say goodbye to your bank account lol
Whats w bank acc😅
should’ve used a usb-c
I think he simply couldn't find one that supports UK layout.
benefits of that exactly? its a keyboard?
@@leeuum764 The benefits vary for each person, but it is always nice to have. USB C is now widely used among enthusiasts. Mini USB might be phased out, having USB c might provide better custom cable options.
There's no point in getting a USB-C port on the PCB other than for cable compatibility. The benefits of USB-C can't be utilized in something like a keyboard that is just meant for typing. And given the fact that keyboards generally spend their lifetime stationary on a desk, it's not as big of a deal as say, a laptop or a smartphone without USB-C
@@rousseau327 actually a lot of enthusiasts like USB c as they change their keyboards out often. They can use the same cable for every board and not worry about switching cables. Also the orientation of the cable does not matter.
I just watched a video on the upcoming Vortex Poker IV and 80 percent of the comments are about "not gonna buy this board if it is still micro USB".
5:53 - I am no health and safety expert, but from what I heard you should never-ever breathe in soldering fumes, and always solder in a well ventilated environment
I mean you're probably more likely to do damage to your lungs walking around New York City or London and breathing in those fumes than from a bit of solder being melted.
@@tomwarren Well if the air in New York or London is so bad, there's no point in adding to it by inhaling solder fumes.
Everybody says that, it's true, nobody does it.
kudos for mentioning buck spring, alps, and torpes. Usually video like this give the people the impression that cherry like switches is the only thing that exists lol.
To see someone new making their own, unique custom keyboard is astonishing. I don't know how to describe the feeling but it feels great to know that someone new has just joined the custom keybaord community. Been using my custom keyboard for a year now, and its great! Lubed Gateron Red, Sakura Keycaps from Akko and also custom spray on the case that was originally black to pink and white.
Welcome to the community.
LMFAO I was expecting something different hehehe
Don't wanna be rude, but honestly, this is soooooooooooo far from endgame! True endgame is qmk flashing, franken-switches, lubing, custom acrylic or wooden case, and many other things.
"I'm going to say 'solder' instead of "sodder" because it has a f'ing "L" in it" - Eddie Izzard, I think.
For the stabilizers: doing a "band aid mod" as well as lubing and clipping them will only take a few minutes and makes an enormous difference. There are tons of tutorials. Lubing switches is really time consuming but makes them sound more rich and deep and feel a lot smoother!
You forgot the hoping for a screw driver :)
XD hahaha 'ISO is just better' XD tbh this presenter/host is pretty good
“ISO is just better”.
Thank you! ISO doesn’t get enough love in the keyboard community!
Because it's inferior.
@@Springerr How is it inferior?
The keyboard used by the guy playing Galaga in The Avengers
few years ago i found my endgame, RAMA m60-A. Been using it for almost a year now with no desire to change it. Endgame is real.
Also have a Rama M60-A with Zambumon's GMK Serika caps and Hako Violet switches. Never swtiching. "We're in The Endgame now"
My perfect "endgame" keyboard is one that is universally modular with any and all switches, only requiring you to buy a new board of the same make and model in the event that it breaks.
This guy is needlessly provocative and I love it 😁
-Switches....check
-Stabs....check
-Case....check
-PCB....check
You forgot to mention the table.
endgame is a lie, Jon
This is a great looking keyboard. It’s surprisingly difficult to find off the shelf UK (ISO) layout ones, with Mac/iPadOS keycaps.
I’ve been searching for a decent 65%, usbc, Bluetooth, with white backlights for a while. Anyone offer any help?
God that title is such a bait. I was ready to be memeing all over this but it’s actually a really good video!
8:30 Jeez the spacebar sounds horrible. What's the point of building a custom keyboard if you aren't at least going to lube and clip the stabilizers?
Please lube the stabilizer PLEASE
hey there arent any braces in this video!
Don't forget to wear your antistatic livestrong band
I'm currently using a membrane keyboard and looking into going mechanical. Maybe building my own would be a great idea
Great job but you should have probably tested the keys before putting it in the case.
not lubing the stabs kinda defeats the purpose of building a custom keyboard. zeal switches are OK unlubed, but cherry stabs should be lubed.
This guy definitely did his research! More of him, The Verge.
at least he didn't place two stick of ram in single channel... Way better this time with this keyboard
Who is this man? I like him.
WOW. That was really bad, did anyone hear the stability wire rattling around during the sound test?
I'll stick with rubber cap keyboard that is missing half the keys
LITTLE MORE BUMP THAN A BROWN LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
its great but how about lubing for the endgame?
Look up Nathan Kim’s (taehatypes) tutorial on lubing, clipping, and band aid modding stabilizers! It’ll help greatly reduce rattle that you find prevalent in your space are (and other keys like enter and shift(s)).
i expected a mess for this video, but it was actually well made and informative. good job
I “built” mine for the first time with the hotswappable GK61 pcb, burnt orange switches and AliExpress keycaps, planning to switch the plate for a brass one for kbdfans, and an acrylic or aluminum one, I’ll probably switch the PCB for one with better software down the road
Iris split ortholinear keyboard with Zeal switches
Imagine building a custom keyboard and still hearing that spacebar’s rattle 🤮
everything was nice until he mentions that he doesn’t want to clip and lube the stabs.
You knew about that stabs are lubed and chose not to, that's a crime. U better had not mentioned it, would have been more forgivable.
Thank God you got an actual enthusiast for this vid!
I was pleasantly surprised that there has been done actual research in this video as opposed to "the other" one.
I hoped for another laughter at first but while I didn't get that, I was happy to see the result :)
Jesus Christ that spacebar sounds like membrane keyboard stabilizers
Now only RGB lighting is missing =D
Everything was going great until I heard the stabilizer........ YIKES!
This person was actually really fun to watch
Unlike he who shall not be named
Americans/English: how to type a §
Dutch: its under the esc key
That spacebar sounds awful. I bet that wasn't clipped or lubed.
that space bar though? You always gotta lube . . . in every situation
He did a great job with being accurate to the hobby but the stabilizers just REALLY need lubed. They are so rattly.
This video itself is an endgame (from the explanation point of view)